Good morning, good morning, good morning, and welcome, welcome, welcome. It's time now for our community connection right here on K one, the one you trust. I'm Tom Davis, and our program is being brought to you by Art laurenne Caampupil Home, Tall Grassmotors and Get Real Ministries. Well, today's going to be a pretty exciting one today because I have a new guest here, someone that we've not spoken to yet, but I hope we
can do that a little bit more often. We have doctor Jerome and doctor Jerome Van Kaiken is going to be hosting a pretty cool lecture out of Oklahoma Wesleyan University come Thursday. First of all, welcome to the show. Oh, thanks so much for having me. This is really neat. This is going to be a lion hall. This is going to be on Thursday the eleventh at seven pm. And the title is Jude Jesus Brother, the Judas We Never Knew. Okay, right now, folks are like, well,
we all know about Judas. Well, there are more than one, right, yeah, that's a little bit about this. Yeah, so there are several judas is actually in the New Testament Bible, and of course the one who gets all the airtime is Judas is Scariot that you know, the one who betrayed Jesus. But there's another one who's Jesus' sibling, half brother, and he also goes by the name Jude. So Ju and this Judas are the same guy. Okay, well, okay, So this Jude appears in
the Bible a couple of different times. Got his own book. Yeah, that's right near the back of the Bible, right before the Book of Revelation. Huh, little tiny book. We tend to skip over it. But it's got some important things to tell us about life today, and it's one we've ignored and need to pay attention to. Well, this is going to be great that this is really going to be an interesting thing. Now, how do we Is this a ticketed event that we have coming up on Thursday?
It is not. It's a free event. But they do ask that you RSVP if possible, so we know how much coffee to provide. Jew it's a good thing. Yeah, Jude Health and Java is sponsoring this. They're providing free coffee, so you know, we want to make sure to know how much coffee to bring. Now, doctor, how long you been in Oklahoma? Wesleyan University. Right, this is my thirteenth year here. You're not old lucky anyplace for thirteen years. But good on you for be
as young as you are and condensing that in. But that's really what do you What do you instruct? Right? I teach Bible and theology and philosophy and Christian worldview, just a variety of subjects. You've got a beautiful campus out there. We were just talking about that before we went on the air. Everything from just the atmosphere when it's very welcoming. Some universities aren't that way. You kind of feel like, oh, well, maybe I don't belong here, but this is like y'all come. Yeah, yeah, I've
certainly been welcomed here. You know, when I moved down to Oklahoma thirteen years ago, I was well welcomed, and I've really enjoyed making Bartles fill my home, raising my kids here. Well, that's wonderful. That is wonderful. And the school itself, we were talking about how the architecture, no matter we add on a little bit, everything stays consistent. So it
really has that nice, nice finished book. Yeah. Yeah, Well, we're so grateful to have the laqin'sa mansion is kind of the foundational piece of architecture for a campus, and so we're trying to respect that building and that heritage by making all the rest of our buildings look similar to that, even the residential areas. Yeah, just like right off there, right off the
same block. So it's really pretty cool. So this lecture we're going to hear, it's about two hours long, and I'm thinking, that's a little tiny book of Jude, but there's going to be just a whole lot that goes into it, because there's a thought process that you kind of have to put yourself through. When you read this, you understand it, you interpret it, and then you finally, finally, finally comprehend it. Right.
Yeah, And my intention is the first half we'll be talking about the man Jude or Judas introduced, yeah, letting you know something about his life as the author, and then the second half will look at the book or the letter of Jude itself. Oh my goodness. Well, we don't want to give anything away here because we do want people to show up and see this. But this is really fascinating. When people think of Judas. We do think of Judas scarant who betrayed Jesus. And of course it had to be
done. One of those things that you know before base starts hating on Judas, it had to be done. It when written long before you came along. But two completely different characters, two completely different lives, and you're going to bring out the distinctions and that real clear, I understand, right, yeah, oh man, So this is one of these things that we do have the rs VP. Now we just need to go to the website or do we have a phone that number that we can call it a little bit
of both. The website, yeah, Oklahoma Wesleyan so www dot OKWU dot edu. And then down there under events it'll have that you can click on
that link to RSVP. This is really going to be fascinating. Is this something that you've been talking about off and on in your classrooms or is this something that you've been working on kind of building to this crescendo for a little bit of both, right, yeah, Well, I have taught the Book of Jude in class, and then back in twenty eighteen, I had the opportunity at a summer camp to do a series of Bible studies on Jude. During that week out in Oregon and beautiful location, as you can imagine by
the way. I and so then I wrote a little Bible study book out of that, and it's been published this past summer. So that book is also available if you can't make the community event or if you want to learn more about that, that's available at Amazon, Barnes and Noble their website. It's called The Judas We Never Knew. Oh okay, well, congratulations I'm being published. Yeah. It's always a cool thing, but even cooler when it's something that nobody else has really kind of touched on. So you got
something kind of very unique here and drum. This is once again Thursday, January eleventh, from seven until nine pm, and it's sponsored by our friends at Jude's Health and Java House. I imagine that was pretty easy for them to say, yeah, I like to participate, Yeah, definitely. Now, you know, folks, some folks get their inspiration from a good cup of coffee. They wake up and then they read the Bible. Then they get the full inspiration. Right, So there you go. So you studied
the theology in Kentucky. Tell us a little bit about that. It came from an interesting area. Yeah, yeah, So around eastern Kentucky where I did my high school and college career, and I have relatives there. My grandparents lived there. So yeah, that's that's a part of the country that is kind of economically depressed challenged. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm grateful to have had a good education there and to been able to then come and make
something in my life as a as an educator. And you've done very well for yourself, young man. I might say a lot of a great musicians have come from that part of Kentucky, real close to that region, they should say, yea of note and did their thing in Wheeling, West Virginia, then made her own down in nash Vegas. But it's an interesting you said. Jd. Vance, the politician actually wrote a book and part of it was about this area, right, Yeah, So JD. Vance is
the up and coming politician. Of course. His biography, autobiography called Hillbilly Elogy, talks about how part of his upbringings in Ohio, but part is in eastern Kentucky, in the very county and town where I am from, basically, And so when that book came out, I made sure to read it to make sure none of my relatives were in there. So when you grow up in a place like that, what drew you to the Bible, what drew you to God? What drew you to the education curiosity? Yeah?
Yeah, well I'm a pastor's kid. Yeah, there you go. You're right all the time. Yeah. My parents and then my grandparents also were ministers there in eastern Kentucky, So I have that heritage that I really appreciate. Well, very good. I mean, that's a great way to
grow up. You know the rules and there's no changing the rules. But we're looking forward to having this lecture Discovering the Untold Story of Jude Jesus Brother, and that will be a free community event and that is on Thursday the eleventh from seven until nine pm with the gentleman we're speaking to right now, doctor Jerome Penkaike, and he is with Oklahoma Wesleyan University. And the book is available to you can get that at Barnes and Noble anywhere Barnes and Noble's
website or Amazon their website. Yeah, jud we never knew. No. If you get something and you can get it there, you're doing well. And well, we're looking forward to this and we're going to be sending a lot of folks out your way. This will be at Lion Hall by the way, folks, if you've not been to Lion Hall, this is a great place for anything, whether it's a worship service, whether it's a lecture.
We've even had political forums held out there, and I can't think of a better place to just take a look out there and see all those thousands of people. I mean, that is it is huge, but it is nice and for as big as it is, it's kind of cozy. You know. I don't know how you can get big and cozy in the same frame. But whoever built that, whoever had that presence of mind. You can see everybody's face, even though there's a lot of faces. Yeah,
you're going to get states, right, are you. No, No, no, no. I teach classes in there, so I'm used to that. You're used to it. Well, Thank you, doctor, I really appreciate you coming by. Yeah, sure thing once again, Thanks so much for having me. Alrighty and good luck and we'll be hearing nothing but positive reviews from Thursday nights lecture coming out. Thank you very much. Folks. You've been listening to are community Connection on