Good morning, and welcome to Community connection. Right here on K one, the one you trust. I'm speaking with doctor Jim Garlow, who's the founder and CEO of Well Versed. In case you don't know, it's a ministry of two members of Congress, also ambassadors at the United Nations in New York, and other elected officials bringing biblical principles of governance to government leaders. That must make you a busy man, Doctor Garlow, welcome to the show.
Thank you good I'm with you, my friend.
Well, I understand that you've also served on President Trump's Faith Advisory team for about four years, and you've met with the small delegations with ten presidents and prime ministers and if I'm not mistaken, even one king.
That's right, it's actually twelve now, oh.
Presidents and kings as well as.
As well as many many members of Parliament across Europe, members of Congress in South America and here in the US.
Now, when you get together with these people, these government types, what kind of conversations take place.
Well, it depends on the setting and what the opportunities present.
But basically, our whole purpose is to try to bring actual Biblical principles that governess of government leaders. I have two books, one called Well Versed and the most recent one called Reversed from Culturally Woke to Biblically Awake, and between the two books that lays out the Biblical foundations
to ninety political topics governmental issues. So what we want to encourage people to do is to really think scripturally, think biblically if they're not followers of the Lord, and then we just encourage them to realize that there is a transcendent information that is available to them.
Through the scriptures. God is the one who thought.
Of government was his idea and to the extent that the nation will follow biblical principles, so that THINKNX and it can reduce human I am suffering at poverty. To the extend it violates biblical principles of governments, it increases human pain, suffering and poverty. So we try to make the case that says God thought of government and nations was his idea to be really good to check out what he says about how civil government should function.
Well, it sounds like you got your work cut out for you. But you know it's great. You're going to be coming back to Bartlesville coming up on August eleventh. You're no stranger to our town, that's for sure. Many people know you.
Oh. I love Bartlesville.
I taught there for several years A long time ago, served on the board of Oklahoma Western University, and I'm a graduate of one of the antistdent institutions. It was in Kansas at that time that it merged with Bartlesville Westley College, which is for Oklahoma Western University now.
So I have deep ties.
I was on staff part time at First west Lean Church there, so I know a lot of people in Bartlesville and love that community. Great place.
Well, I guess they're going to be open, They're going to be welcoming you with open arms. Coming up on August eleventh, you have a special event coming up at the Oklahoma Wesleyan University Chapel. Can you tell us about it?
Yes, that will be Monday night, August eleven, and that's at seven pm.
As you've already indicated, Oklahoma.
Westley University and my wife and are going to be sharing just simply about what we've discovered from travel around the country.
The ministry we have.
My wife, my first wife who lived with me in Bartlesville, was a part of the faculty when I was my wife, and when I was there, she since passed away. Her name was Carol, and everybody knows Carol in that community, but Rosemary, when I remarried on a Rosemary Schindler is related through her first marriage. Her husband's deceased to Oscar Schendler, and Rosemary's made seventy eight trips to Israel. So she will be sharing a lot about Israel, and I will
be sharing about our various meetings in various countries. We just got back from Uruguay, from Argentina, from England, from Ireland, poland Ukraine. As we've been on the road here quite a bit recently, as we're sharing what we're seeing, what we're observing globally, and what God is doing in terms of re establishing biblical principles and governments, I think in the midst of all the troubling news, and there is a lot of troubling news, there's also some.
Reason for encouragement.
And so we're going to be bringing not only the tough news that what's out there, but also some good things that God is up to in a number of nations.
I have to ask, I've never been outside of the United States. But I imagine that. But I've met people from around the world, and I know that there are a lot of different customs, a lot of different cultures. But what is the common thread that you find when you go from nation to nation and visit with culture to culture.
Well, there is a level of turbulence.
Unfortunately, I wish it wasn't being experienced around the world quite comparable to what.
We're experiencing in the US.
The attack upon marriage, the attack upon the family, the attack upon babies within the room, the attack on Israel, the anti Semitism that has a presence in countries around the world, the co transgenderism movement.
It is quite global in scope.
The good news is there is a people in every nation, the people group that are rising up against that and trying to establish re establish sanity, to step away from the wokeness. There is a call for righteousness in many nations. Sometimes it's a small remnant, sometimes it's a growing movement. But the fact is that the battle for good and evil is never along strict political lines. The real issue is not political party. The real issue is good versus evil,
Light versus darkness. The things of God is opposed to things of the evil one. And so that's the kind of battle we see for truth and righteousness and holiness, and that the justice that people long for, and that's a battle being waged in all one hundred and ninety three countries.
Of this world.
Doctor Garlo, it's amazing to talk to you, and do you kind of listen to your story and your synopsis of what you've been seeing around the globe. Like you said, it really doesn't seem like it's a whole lot different than what we're seeing in our own backyard and in our own neighborhood and in our own state. But common thread here. Do you see people showing their faith a little bit more these days? Or do you see them feel oppressed or challenged? Are we seeing some daylight?
Yes?
The gray has disappeared, and you're either one side or the other. You either stand for true or you don't. Do You either stand for that which is righteous or you don't. The mushy middle is is really gone. It disappeared in the last twenty five years, and so it pushes people out. And I find people of faith, people of faith are joined by people who might not see themselves as people of faith, yet they have a vestige of Judaeo Christian values in them, and they see something
that's going wrong. And so there's a rising up of the combination of people who have a strong faith in Jesus Christ alongside those who really don't see themselves that way, but they still have the value structures of the scriptures. And those two groups kind of joined together to stand against the irrationality of wokeness that has impacted almost every nation. What we've experienced here, for example, in the attacks upon
Donald Trump or the tax on the administration. That is, I could take you to Bolivia, I could take you to Brazil. I could I take you to country by country where that is actually happening or right now it follows the day pattern. There's places like Hungary or Victor ORBN. He stands against it. He stands against the wokeness, but he takes tremendous criticism for it from the rest of the European Union. There's only a couple of countries in the European Union. You're willing to stand for truth. The
outbreak of anti Semitism is strong. For example, we just got back from Ireland. Just got back from there. Ireland is the first country in Europe to refuse to accept any goods from Israel made in Israel. That's the first time in Europe since Nazi Germany that a country has taken that severe stand. Wow. And there's there's when when we met three times with Premiser net Yahoo, when he flies from Tel Aviv from from Israel and.
Flies to let's say Washington, d C.
Should be maybe this X number of hours, but it cost him about three more hours because there's numbers of countries that.
Are part of the.
Hague organization in which has declared him illegal. And there was that the if he lands in their country, they arrest him and imprisoned him. So he has to fly out of his way to stay over countries that will not arrest him in case they had an emergency landing. That's how severe the anti Semitism is we're seeing in parts of the world.
That's the part that's across Europe we're talking about right now.
Oh, so it causes us to stand and rise and meets this challenge and refuse to allow us to have a repeat of eighty years ago with Hitler in Nazi Germany.
Doctor Garlow. One thing that many people are confused over is how after reading in history of World War two and the treatment of the Jews back then, why are we seeing some of this start to repeat. I'm seeing some irrespectors of a time we don't want to revisit. And I understand that there are forces out there that would like to maybe shift a narrative or perhaps conflate a few stories about that attack that happened that caused this war with Gaza. From everything I've read, that's been factual.
This began as an attack with people with hang gliders and machine guns and there were unarmed people at a festival that got mowed down.
Yes, we have been to that festival site.
We have been to the kibbutz where they burned an attacked and burned babies and raped women. We've been right on the site of that where the first wave was military coming across, but the second third wave we're actually civilians coming across and just slaughtering and murdering. We've been with the families who've been killed. We've been over there. We keep going over right during the war, we keep going.
We believe God's safety is upon this. So we've gone multiple times during this war, three or four times during this But the fact is that I'm convinced that the reason the Jews are so persecuted the most for the longest continuous period, the most persecuted people group in the world, is for one simple reason. It can't be because there's too many of them, because there's only about fifteen million that we know of. That's a very tiny group among
eight billion. It can't be because they have much land, because they only have one third of one percent of the land in the Middle East. They have a tiny little sliver of land the size of New Jersey. It's just really dinky. It's so small. God in the Bible, God promises you fraight each of the nile that's three hundred thousand square miles. Even under King David, Israel only had two under thousand square miles. Right now they have
eight thousand square miles. So they have a peace of what God promised them as the people in terms of the land. So it can't be because they have too much land. Why is it that people persecute the Jews. I'm convinced just because the Jews remind people of God. The very existence of the Jewish people is a miracle. The very existence of a nation called Israel that came back into existence at that long time, re established his language, re establish his currency, re established his customer.
That's unheard of. That is a miracle.
The existence of the Jewish people reminds people of God because the Jews gave us the Kanak that give us the Torah, they gave us the teaching, they gave us the Psalms, they gave us the proverbs, they gave us the Messiahs, they gave us the teaching on the Messiah. And if people believe there's a God, then that God has a moral order. And if there's a moral order, we're supposed to follow it. And the human heart can be very wicked, does not want to follow that at all.
As a result of that, they take it out of the Jews, whether it's even subconscious, perhaps they take it on the Jews because the Jews remind us of the existence of God at his core. It's an anti God movement.
Wow, incredible. We're going to hear a lot more from you coming up on August eleventh, a very special event. It's going to be at Oklahoma Wesleyan University Chapel. Do you have a time set for this is going to be in the evening.
Time seven pm and you are all invited.
Great doctor Garlow, thank you very much for being here with us and being a special guest with us on Community Connection, My.
Privilege, my friend. Will see you August eleventh,