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Welcome to Shadow Shorts . This is where , every weekday at New Eastern , I bring to you a thought leader , a doer in the realm of innovation for the built environment . My name is Jeff Heckels , I am a senior advisor and the head of marketing for Shadow Partners , and today I'm having a lot of fun . We just hit record .
I'm already having a lot of fun because I am joined by Greg Sautter . He is the president at WGI . We've been talking before we get started . He's in West Palm Beach , florida , and I think the weather here in Indianapolis , where I am , might actually be nicer than West Palm Beach .
So this is like the one day of the year that we can claim that title here in Indianapolis . Welcome , greg , I'm glad you're here .
Thanks , Jeff . A pleasure to be here . I've enjoyed the conversation already and it's funny because it sparked a soft on our conversation around water and weather .
It absolutely did . So you brought something up that I think is an important topic for us to tackle and it's real . It's real in the AEC world . This is our focus right Focus on the built environment .
But there's a lot of technology out there , there's a lot of innovation going on out there , but , as you said before we went live , we're often very slow to adopt that technology . So tell me more about you know , from the point of view of the president of WGI and everything that you look at , that you're paying attention to , that you're working on .
Where do you see that technology and where is it slow and what's the result of that ? Why does it matter that we're slow to adopt the technology ?
Well , well , first off , it really matters that we're slow to adopt the technology , because we can't continue on the path that we are right . Every day we're building new infrastructure . We already have a backlog of infrastructure that needs more attention and , at the rate and pace at which we're doing it and the cost for doing it right , it's not sustainable .
So we have to fundamentally change the equation . You know some of the things we do here at WGI . We're a full service engineering company headquartered here in West Palm Beach Last year we worked in 42 states , but also with a , with a significant focus on innovation and technology .
And , in fact , one of the things I find really interesting , we're in the fourth year of our innovation contest and in our internal innovation contest , the in out of the top 10 , we just finished it a week ago , friday .
The top 10 that came in , seven out of the 10 , right , these are our own folks are our pitching ideas on how artificial intelligence is going to change everything we do Right . So it used to be . You know we had this talk with our team , their first time being canoe board early .
You know a few of us zealots out there talking about what that future might look like . Might look like .
And now our folks really , really are starting to drive the conversation that , hey , we can do this differently and that we have to do this differently , right , and especially the younger generation too , and it's no surprise , but they're saying , hey , if there's a better way , that's the way we want to go .
So , but one of the things that can be extremely frustrating because we , you know , we tend to be very conservative and very parochial as an industry when we do have options for something that makes a difference and can really , you know , change the game , we tend to be slow to not very slow to adopt and one of the ones that I was talking about .
You know that I mentioned earlier that I have a particular passion around .
We created a venture arm within WGI to invest specifically in emerging technologies , and one of those companies is a company called Streamline Technologies , found by a guy by the name of Pete Senghoff and who's a guru in the space of stormwater management , and we've been helping them kind of take to firm to the next level .
But you , know , as I said , we were joking about the rain here and it's been raining for three days straight and I think we're supposed to get another two or four inches today In Florida , which is a great example .
We're blessed with all this water , right , but it's also a curse , and but we now have tools that can tell us specifically where the flooding is going to be , right . So typically when we're looking at flooding , we're looking at inundation maps .
When we watch the news on a hurricane and they talk about where the flooding is going to be , they're using very , very blunt instruments , right to come up with those estimates .
But we now have the capability to do real-time flood forecasting and the Streamline tool I was talking about , because of a very advanced and complex hydrologic engine and hydraulic engine that takes into consideration all of the factors , that understands where the rain is going to fall and what's going to happen to that rain and where the flooding is going to be , and
very , very specific . I call it , you know , surgical understanding of flooding at the base elevation , house level , at you know the level at a hospital , a firehouse , on a road , and we can know that in advance . You know one , two , three days in advance .
We know where the flooding is going to occur , which gives us the ability to be much more thoughtful about how we apply resources , how we move people out of harm's way , how we protect our assets .
You know , and it's one of the things again , it's a small part of our business , but I'm so passionate about it because we have solutions now , right , to change the game , to change the equation , and it's still very hard to get folks to appreciate the impact and start adopting these technologies , right , but some of these answers are there today and you know this
is just one of them , but at the rate and pace and change of technology today , more and more of these are going to be out there .
And when we talk about , you know , sustainability , resilience , adaptation , it's tools like this that allow us , you know , to be more adaptable , to be more efficient and to make our infrastructure more resilient over time , and that's what it does .
So , you know , again , in this world of thinking about , you know , climate change , sea level rise , the flooding issues we have , there are things that start to change the tide , if you will , pun intended , and we need to adopt this .
Yeah , yeah , you know , I think a lot of times when I'm doing the intro for this show or introducing someone at our Shatter Summit or something like that , I'll talk about innovation for the built environment . I think it's really easy to lose sight or for someone to not really grasp what exactly that means .
Oh , you mean like like BIM , or you mean something , and that's not it at all right .
What we're talking about is innovation in this , in this case , technology that literally shapes the way we design , we build , in the cases that you're talking about , how we , how we keep people safe , how we keep infrastructure safe or , as you said , you know , improvements or investment in , etc .
It literally shapes the built environment and the future of how we live , where we live , etc . And that that's one of the things that really gets me excited about these types of conversations is what you're talking about could literally save lives . That's right , and you know different aspects of infrastructure , etc .
That's important technology and it just when you brought up the fact that we're slow to adopt it and I know you're right about that it's like how , how , how . This boggles my mind right .
Yes , well , because we've been doing you know things a certain way for so long .
That's the way , we've always done it .
Yeah , yeah , and there's a real , real challenge here which I do appreciate , and that is , you know , our public leaders are in a tough role . They really are right . So you think about the folks that run town , cities , counties .
It's a tough job , it's tough to do , right , they typically do have limited resources and we're , all you know , struggling for the same talent , right , and they have the same turnover issues , and you know so . So it's not an easy environment and I get that .
But what we have to , I think , fundamentally change is this this understanding and appreciation that the tools are changing , in some cases changing significantly .
We have to at least be open to it , right , and that's why , again , I get so passionate around these things , because when I see something happen in a city or town or a county that could have been avoided it just you know , I feel like we have a public responsibility to just stand on the rooftops a little bit and wave the flag and say , hey , you know
there's a better way and there's going to be more and more of those . And part of the challenge I think , as an industry too , is , you know , we have to be , we have to get better at that communication and , I also think be a filter for some of it .
Because there is so much happening now , you know we have to bring the pieces together in a way that allows it to be digestible for these , the ultimate consumers of it . Otherwise it can be a bit overwhelming .
Yeah , yeah . So you know , wgi , of course is is unique in what you do and how you do it , but you're also not unique in the fact that you're part of a larger profession and industry . And so for those leaders in other firms that are somehow similar to yours , what's the call to action here ?
Right , they may be developing some technology , or they may be , you know , using technology in a new way , etc . What's what's the call to action here for other other people that are in specifically your position but but also , you know , in a like , from a broader perspective , I guess a firm like WGI yeah , I think there's a few things .
I think there is an educational piece to it . You know I find myself to talking about technologies like this and others In a way . That's about you know , educating them to the power of what can be , you know , and how things really have started to change . You know we use the term smart cities has been used for for a lot of years now .
We've been talking about smart cities , right , but what is interesting is the technology is actually starting to get to the point where there are elements of the city that really can be smart , act in a smart way , give us information back to make better decisions and to be much smarter smarter about how we deploy resources . You know so much of this to .
Again , as I was saying before , from a sustainability perspective , I think , as an industry as well , we have a responsibility to find a way to do this more efficiently and effectively . In fact , the numbers are spelled out right .
The level of advancement from an efficiency perspective and almost every other industry , as you probably know , have gotten much more efficient and effective over time , and you know the overall AEC industry has not at the same pace . I know that would surprise a lot of people , but it's a fact .
So we actually have a responsibility to to be able to do more with less , because the resources aren't going to be there .
Right , right , yeah , yeah .
I think that's a great call to action and for anybody that's out there listening to this or watching this , you know , whichever version , however , you're consuming this , I hope that we take that to heart , because there is there's a lot of talent out there , there are a lot of great ideas out there and and we do absolutely have the ability to shape the way that
we design , that we build , we develop and you know , beyond that , the way , the way people live and survive . So , greg , this was , this was fantastic . I really appreciate you bring your passion to this one , but but also this example . You call it a small example .
It's , it's , it's an example , it's one example that you're working on , but it really has the ability to have a huge impact . So , thanks , thanks so much for joining me and for telling , telling the story here .
My pleasure I'll make one more pitch to , which is , as an industry , we got to invest back in , you know , invest in technology . As an industry . We're the ones you know really the most well suited , who understand these issues , you know better than anybody else .
So we're the ones who should be investing in that technology , inviting technology into the industry and really leading the way .
Yep , yeah , absolutely . I love it , and there are lots of opportunities out there , lots of different ways to plug in and and participate and pave the way . All great points . Greg , thanks so much for joining me . This has been a lot of fun . We'll have you back and we'll talk more about what absolutely ?
Thank you , Jeff .
Absolutely glad you're here and , for those of you that are out there listening or watching , we appreciate you . I'll be back again tomorrow with another conversation like this . This has been Greg Satter . He's the president of WGI . He's down in West Palm Beach , florida .
It doesn't look like that out the window , by the way , but he's in West Palm Beach , florida , and I'll be back with another guest tomorrow . Thanks , everybody .
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