Integration of Knowledge in Performing Impactful Research

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Especially ISI to move forward for knowledge frontiers and making an impact with Islam science research, through integration of Natalie and Natalie reveal that equate knowledge and D it will be a steeper climb to the pinnacle of the grant idea and with the designers, especially for NC, because it does. Eagle. Yeah, sharing much is the only known professor that as my smile, I will be love with no precedent of equity or sciences, leisure, and formerly vice chancellor work on product.

It is, yeah, it is to have you today. And I felt it blessings to be here. director of ISI uh, and started much the anchoring this program. Um, Uh, thank you so much, everyone. A bit of reminder before I invite who I'm very sure eagerly waiting. We share, uh, please everyone quickly mute your microphones and switch off your camera to allow that to, to be spotlighted throughout the lecture, you may post your questions on the chat panel.

So then I'll collect and reiterate them for all that to respond to at the end of the lecture, right? Uh, I shall introduce The renowned professor that the fire is a woman of men.

First, she was the first female vice chancellor of in 2012 and the first female vice chancellor of And because 19, maybe her first women, two women to be appointed twice as the vice chancellor of the university, she has served as the country's first female general of And he started only the first female president of academia of science. Malaysia is She also serves as the first female to be the chairperson or the Malaysian called January 1st, 1980.

Sember that the first 2018 one, her current position is as the in-person. Share for medicine that you, I am the chair She also serves as an honorary professor at Institute for research and molecular medicine, USM and associate research fellow at the biotechnology research Institute. Marisha Saba her education about that includes having a BSE biology from the university of Nevada USA and the microbiology from Indiana.

Yes. And, uh, her field of expertise in medical microbiology and medical biotechnology for data scientific discoveries in diagnostic biomarkers that have led to a team of 15 patterns and commercialization of the rapid diagnostic tests, four by four called typhi, which was located by the world health organization. As a researcher, he has published more than a hundred papers, more than 230 awards and recognition presented more than 435 papers, including three and more than 48.

He knows both at a national and international level. He was elected the academy of sciences in the academic center for the developing world.

she was elected as a member of the Uranian academy of medical sciences in thousand 17 and four year as a member of the college of fellows, Keele university and governing advisory board member for Asia Pacific university in Japan, in recognition for her leadership in lifelong learning in the converse, especially for women and her outstanding service to the advisor of higher education and science in Malaysia, she was confirmed as honorary fellow of the Commonwealth of learning in September, 2019

and honorary scholar for I E S a Institute for applied system analysis, Vienna Austria in November, 2019. She currently serves as the selection panel for the Medica war and rose scholarship to select Molina. To Oxford university in 2020, she was elected to be a board member of Commonwealth of learning based in Vancouver, Canada. She also serves as a board member for crests collaborative research in engineering, science, and technology center to move STI based companies in the country since 2017.

Her landmark contribution to malicious high education system include the establishment of the procedures national academy. What the establishment of research universities in Malaysia and also The development and implementation of their relation education blueprint, high education in 2013 to 2035 for her outstanding contribution and be an exemplary figure in the field of higher education, research, innovation and policy on science and technology locally and abroad.

She received an honorary doctor of science from the UC of Glasgow in team in Indiana. And you'll see, Thomas Hart, Benton mural DeLeon insert 15 already be doctor of the university Keele university and Dr. Elects richer from to the 17 respectively in May, 2001. Quite recently, she has been appointed by the prime minister misery to be a member of the national action concert on shared prosperity vision and the distinguished aggregated category. Right?

So. Thank you very much, uh, to make some time for today's Islam, it says lecture, product, it's an SIC session and we call it to make it more of Right. So ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much. Should be, uh, those who are eagerly waiting. Uh And surely in the creation of the habit and alternation of the night and the signs of the people of is the standing and sitting and lying on your side.

And who mediate thinking about the creation of heaven and earth say, oh, Rob, you have not created all this in the same without any purpose. Clearly you got us then from the punishment of fire was 190 201. So without further ado, I S is on it to bring as much with integration of knowledge in performing impactful research. The floor is yours. Uh, I see, uh,

To what I, when, when I arrived, I wanted to do something about how do you make sure that issue, but what is it that people asking for? Where is a lumbar, uh, Islamic science, uh, is a trust of the university, uh, forming his name. Uh, and that is not just another Islamic university. Only had a song university. You just go on like, Hey, I am. So basically that is one of the reasons why he went into Senate and set up, uh, I hold that I can live up to his name, uh, finding his way.

And hopefully you can do. Uh, in creating the kind of impact that is needed, um, in order to move the university, a young AI, that one is actually trying to promote today, integration of Natalie and athlete. Right? So this is a talk on integration of knowledge in performing, um, impactful, um, uh, research basically. Um, uh, when you talk about, um, uh, this particular lecture, I will not to touch base on these, uh, aspects. One is about, uh, COVID-19, how it change the world.

How will that science and research, then I'm talking about convergence of knowledge and some of the big features about what are the grand challenges that you are going to see and face, um, expectations of universities century. And then we bring you back to basic and asking the question, what is the purpose of. And I'm talking now about me back well, research and malicious, um, solution, uh, basically, um, what's impactful research.

We've got attention Malaysia, S T E science, LG innovation and economy and innovation grandchild was granted. We were talking about and the last spot so that, uh, I still had an audience is to perhaps suggest that we've seen, uh, some of the research opportunities that same can look forward to. Now, let me begin by saying that COVID-19 pandemic has basically taught us many lessons and guests that need to address and that need to be addressed.

And about Eddie basically has taught us that in order to be resilient, we need science to power. Are we follow me post COVID-19? And what's happening is that while political leaders basically locked their borders and we began to see global collaboration among scientists and also among non-scientists and among all the researchers in the global race to actually develop axes that Gnostics as well as therapeutics.

And we see scientists now showing shared responsibility by re-purposing and apps to better understand the virus. And we see engineers, we design and production facilities who supplied the machine needed personal protective equipment. Uh, what would that need to enable? We are now out with silo, silo, mindset, silo, thinking, silo, working, and a key word. Now is collaboration. We also now begin to see, uh, enhanced sharing of information and knowledge.

And, uh, and you begin to see, uh, where, um, personal KPIs basically set aside information was shared on the fly with zoom or their online repositories to make studies and discoveries available, or world read months ahead before the actual, uh, paper is being reviewed or is being published. And so we see in our social responsibility takes the front line, says. Because of the fact that outbreak anywhere is a risk everywhere and an outbreak anywhere is a risk everywhere.

So basically it's not like you protecting yourself only in Malaysia, but there is an outbreak in Africa is going to hit us soon enough. So an outbreak anywhere is everywhere. So what is more important, uh, therefore is to come up with a solution for everyone, not just a solution for your country, but a solution for everyone. And the way to achieve that is to collaborate in order to design and develop the people's vaccine, the people's diagnostics and therapeutics all against COVID-19.

And what you're seeing now is that during a crisis, when the Wolf face, the crisis salary, H index citations were all out of the window and what is important. Now it's outcome or impact, right? And this is more important than oppose because publications, et cetera, they are just outputs of knowledge, but impact is what people are now looking for and what people are asking science to now give solution to this COVID-19.

So the feeling of shared responsibility or values now, so strong and become stronger so that whatever information share can help scientists worldwide to act faster. So in times of crisis, this is the bottom line that where you do actually see it is resolved or key key, key result indicator. That is the one that matters. And suddenly now, um, the world is seeing that science is now seen as a global public.

Good. And for future pandemic preparedness, because this pandemic COVID-19 is not the last one. We are going to face more and then. Uh, already science is showing us that there are a lot more viruses out there and zoonotic diseases and the transmissibility from the animals to the humans is going to happen. And predictability by artificial intelligence also is showing that we got to get more, a pandemic due to upper respiratory infection.

And so for future pandemic preparedness, we now know also that STI alone will not allow resilience, right? So we need to work in an integrated and collaborative ecosystem and no longer inside. So, and people are now the way government Malaysia is, um, uh, tackling the pandemic. We have So basically this might, this has got all the various ministries together agencies together all now providing help to kick em, uh, and also making decisions together.

So this is what we call as whole government approach and all societal approach. Because if the government says, MTN, we say is a MCO and the people do not follow and we continue to have to increase cases of COVID. So this is what we mean by, we need also societal societal approach to, for any policies to actually work. So we need a strategic and systematic integration.

Of science technology, religion ask you vanities along with innovation, entrepreneurial, and global mindset in order to adequately meet the challenges of the 21st century. So basically we need to work together to provide solutions for humanity and no longer about how each discipline cannot provide solution.

It's no longer about how a medical can provide the solution or how engineering can provide a solution or how, and as soon as I can provide the solution is actually now providing solutions for humanity, but I'm working together, um, in an integrated and collaborative manner. So in short, the complex global issues, they acquire and integrate that ecosystem to connect the dots and provide solutions that can now create a sustainable change. And to connect the dots.

Basically we must act the virgins of knowledge from the sciences and abilities of things. So perhaps this is a little, um, uh, to, um, understand, um, what we mean by privileges. If you want to make salad, these are the ingredients of salad dressing. Yeah. So these ingredients of salad is disappeared. They say all these tomato capsicum, the salad, all these are individual disciplines, but if you will now break all these and put it into a ball, this is called right.

Where multi this paste, they come together, they work together, but the individual discipline remain intact sometimes. Uh, the, the upper university asking guys to work together. Yeah, you will get up on a project. Uh, but, uh but we just bound together on a plate, uh, on a class, little by example. But when you start to now go to interdisciplinary, All right.

So where we started to go to infer this Marie, this is where now we begin to see a dissolving of discipline boundaries by looking for common themes across the discipline that can serve the higher order learning objective. And these include the thinking skills, the problem solving and decision making. Let's say, if you want to make Curry, all the ingredients of Curry have now individual ingredients have now melted to what we call Kyrie. Still there are distinctiveness.

Like the fish is still seeing, okay. Now the best time, uh, is transdisciplinary whereby uh, what it takes here is like a piece of cake whereby all the ingredients like sugar, the flour is everything are individual items, but when Nikki move along the seat, any of the discipline, right? So the idea of thinking means beyond all disappear, but a unifying issue, let's say we want to now, uh, like hunger and poverty, right?

So when we reduce the inequity by we all work together in the kind of thinking that we want. So that is so basically, um, what then is expected of. So being able to him, I don't have to remind all of you probably you can remind me better, but let me quote what And I'm serious that when a man dies he's discounting and except for three things. So that area of knowledge, which is beneficial or a virtuous, the standards who plays for the disease, right.

Basically what we're saying here is that you can, you see this knowledge, which is beneficial. It doesn't mean just simply leaving the world with a lot of knowledge, but what have you done with that knowledge? The, as long as that knowledge has not been made into beneficial, it is not yet good knowledge. So as I get any, so you see all these three, I guess, uh, academics, uh, and also people around the world. We are more fortunate because we have the ability to do labor.

All three, we are in a position to generate knowledge that is beneficial, which happens to be the core business of editing. So as the California, everyone is a little deal with the responsibility to lead him on kind to the right path. But as an academic, we are all leaders in our own micro environment. So the question is how now you see not every core business can be in the position to create knowledge, which is an issue, but we are in that position because it's part of Alanna.

So how do we now generate knowledge? That is beneficial. So to do that, we need to understand what's challenges. And we need to understand what is the big picture, because sometimes you live in your own micro environment and, uh, and sometimes leaders of the university, which is also not at the national level. The tendency is very high that the leaders are not at the national level. Then, uh, the, the people in the university also do not have, uh, any idea what was going on at national level.

No, at a global level. So basically role expectations of universities, uh, in the 21st century, it's not just about the generation of knowledge, knowledge, and, and dissemination of knowledge, but it's also about the translation on knowledge. What bag would have we created through innovation and entrepreneurship and these solutions that we provide must be through real world experience.

We're not talking about solutions in the lab and they bring that solution now to benefit the village, to benefit the city or to benefit the area of new life. And, um, and the universities, I expected to be the engine of growth for the nation. Yeah. Commercialization of R and D and development of knowledge base.

And. And of course, in terms of teaching and learning, they're supposed to train invaders or tomorrow with a curriculum that creates entrepreneurs who participate in startups and graduates. They are job creators rather than a job seekers, but job creators with values and graduates, they are good citizens.

Um, and they should build us and care about humanity and also to empower talents, to be action oriented leaders who deliver solutions to ensure sustainability of change with all that requirement. This is a tall order for all universities and a lot of the time, um, uh, this is the true north of the university, but a lot of times, sometimes you move into rankings and you're very single minded into that kind of a world.

Uh, the tendency is that the university lost his direction and no longer believe in the two lost. So what then is the big pitch? On grand challenges that we need to see and face that. So in the new era demands, new education and paradigm gone are the days of annual gathering with agriculture ish. They have gone on to industrial age and we are now in Malaysia based on knowledge based economy, but the world is not, it's not waiting for Malaysia.

We are the world's only moving to bio green economy and finally moving to the humanization economy. And that's why we call, uh, education 4.0 humanization of education. So basically the future, if you now go is about wisdom, it's about model it's about spiritual, the future positive rate on outcome or impact to humanity, which is KRI rather than just output, which is KPIs. So basically the future is asking for injection or so and values in the things that we do.

So if that is the case, it should be a piece of cake or seem right, because that should be, um, uh, uh, that should be our bread and butter. So basically even if we now say within being an Islamic university as well, you need also now ask the question. How can you help now, uh, with the Muslim world. So if you look at the economy, this parity among them nations, right? You see all this GDP per capita, and you see Malaysia as an apple, middle income country.

So many poor countries and the high income basically we have to ask this question. Um, can we, uh, help in Malaysia? Hell oh, I see compete in the new economy by training school, children wishes. So, um, and if we, if we are going to say so, uh, we equipping them with knowledge and skills to become agents of change. I ask this question, especially of universities that have a lot of students from the, oh, I see. And that you especially like, we'll see all that.

You are a, all that UniSA and these are the three song universities in Malaysia. And question I would like to ask is that, are you training the foreign students from all these OIC countries with knowledge and skills to become agents of change when they now go back to their country or you just, oh, I just teaching them say, we'll say, oh, so this is an honor that you need to pay attention to. Right. Uh, and, and not just, um, you know, take it very lightly, uh, regarding the Amala. There is now.

So, if you, even if you're looking at the funding to drive the R and D or R, and I, uh, for the who I, in countries, you see that the, um, the, the whole, uh, funding yeah. Is 0.41 compared to 1.7, eight or EU at 1.76. I mean, this data is 2012 and you cannot find, uh, a much more updated data. Um, and basically all this is below, um, uh, Uh, it's very much, uh, below 1% GDP.

You must understand why 1% GDP, 1% GDP, uh, for R and D is that important for other countries to come in and actually invest in that actually, because it means that if a country can set aside 1% GDP for research that needs the country is serious about this research. Either country is less than 1% GDP. A lot of people also say that maybe this country doesn't have the kind of high end skill that they need in order to invest in that country.

So Tunisia is about the only country they have met the target, but Malaysia and move since then in 2012 at 0.6, 3% to 1.04% in 2019. And in our end K-12 we are going to move to greater than 2.5%. And I hope that this because of the reality and not just a fantasy. So with the. If you can see this picture with a low commitment to R and D can we actually transform the social economy wellbeing on the Ooma? So this is a question that perhaps we need to see as well.

And perhaps, maybe it's not necessary for you to go so far to go to the OIC. Let's talk about Malaysia. Yeah. So there are many poor and marginalized children. They grew up without clean water, without electricity, no internet. This is in Malaysia itself going to schools that lack teachers and parents, and did not complete secondary schools. So what about the aperture who will champion them and believe that they too deserve a better view?

So this is now talking about research, doing things that matches, right. But what matters here is that this is an intangible that you can come see a lot of the times KPI measurable outputs that you can come, but doing something that methods is an intangible thing, but it's something that you cannot come. That is something that is very important. So to me, I, um, cannot be just about knowledge, generation and publication. It has to result in so cycle and industrial transformation.

So the question that we need to ask is how do we create balance? How do we create balance between tangible outputs and impact or intangible outcomes? So these are the questions that we need to ask. And if that is the case, then there is a point for us now to mainstream, uh, into, um, uh, into the university, uh, Kip this key intangible performance into RNI.

So basically you need to have a balance of KPI, key performance indicator, plus key RP, uh, key intangible performance in order to create impact. So if that is the case, maybe we should now go back to basic. What is the purpose of why anyone wants to do research? Right? Basically it is to generate new knowledge, not to generate all knowledge, but to generate new. And therefore to do that, we need to perform.

And I, so research is that what I've done to enhance innovation and provide solutions that practice humanity. So most, if not all lecturers are motivated by the fact that, you know, before you die, before you close your eyes, finally, you would like to make a difference in the world. That will be a dream right to make that is basically to create an impact. And one way that you can create an impact is to provide solution to the SDGs or provide solutions to the OMA. And do this.

We can do this by injecting research, um, before, uh, basically, um, values research values so that they are an I outcomes are meant for ABI.

Good. So as we move to humanization edge, um, and lessons learned from thought that basically we need to, now we do research the outcome that we do, the, uh, the kind of results that we must place emphasis on human values and human life, actually democracy, social justice inclusion, um, uh, reduction, uh, of, uh, uh, uh, in remote reduce the inequity divide.

Okay. So in short practice, Islamic things of having sympathy, empathy, compassion, basically to make a difference, uh, needs to be there for SDGs and also. So to do that, we need to basically collaborate and work together in a multidisciplinary or transdisciplinary manner by integrating science that won't, you ask the humanities to provide basically a holistic and dynamic solution to humanity.

And to do that, we need to collaborate and undergo convergence of knowledge when producing solutions to problems, entity. And that basically is in line and also aligned to the shared prosperity vision 2030 of the country. And basically. Um, the shed perspective, you should also request that knowledge needs to be transformed. Knowledge should not just be meeting obligations or mini books, but you need to be trying to sport to make a difference to humanity.

And basically, uh, if you don't have the time to read all, this is important just to see that the knowledge base, uh, we are looking for knowledge base economy with high value, and they must be community participation. We will like to address wealth and income disparities, all right. To reduce inequity divide. And we want a United prosperous and dignified nation to make Malaysia United phosphorus and the fight and to be the economy center for Asia.

So even, um, uh, if we look at, uh, shared prosperity vision or the country, the country is looking for impact. So if that is the case, um, COVID-19 pandemic basically has taught us that in order for the country to remain resilient, we need science to power our economy post COVID-19 right. And to ensure militia remains competitive globally. The government continues efforts. Every MK.

Yeah. The government continue to mainstream science, the LNG ambition as a driver of economy growth in its transformation plans. Right?

So this hopefully will enable militia to become a high tech nation by 2030 and a developed country based on knowledge as well as competitiveness, but with the rapid change in technology, the disruptive technology, but by industry 4.0, we basically need to instill innovation in our industries in order to improve productivity and also to enhance societal wellbeing. Is that the case?

This is what I say sometimes, you know, um, a lot of the times lecturers will say, yeah, I think at least so much already, you know, our industry, the industry, the one is moving into the area. So bottom line, I, when, when we talk about something is better than you show and what is actually happening, the country and evidence provided by third parties even better because sometimes evidence provided by you. Many people will not believe it.

So if you look at the innovation imperative, this is the overview by world bank. And this is done in December of 2020. So just last year, December what we see here. So the first time we'll actually look at what is the innovation is happening in our industries and compare to the east in east Asian countries. So Malaysia is compared to China, Philippines, Cambodia, Mongolia, Vietnam, Yanmar, Laos, Indonesia, and.

And this orange bar shows that when we talk about innovation, um, these about this is innovation and is in the process of innovation. Um, yeah, the last city kid, uh, you know, last year. So that means this glacier is quite good in that, you know, the process, you never change the final product, but the process of producing that product, they do make some changes.

So this is called, this is the only thing, but it was very important if truly we want to become a high technician in by 2030, we need to be producing our own companies that have our own indigenous technology people and what we are seeing.

And I'm so well, all these countries that look at the blue bar militia is the lowest, despite all the money that grant money that the government is not giving for us to do R and D. We are the lowest among all the So this, this allows, you know, as far as indigenous technology, right.

And this is, um, Let's say, and also those that spend, of course, if you don't have your own engineers and that's why 98% of malicious company as still as any, but if you look at how good we are at bringing in adopting that thing outside of technology and, uh, make it into Malaysia very high. So we are very good at adopting and adapting outside that on, but very cool in producing our own, uh, indigenous technology.

This is simply not on if a country wants to now move to become a high definition, we gotta be like Korea. They're on like LG and Samsung. Uh, you know, this, this is the time, uh, that we need to, uh, have, right? So we can afford to continue with weak academia and industry to engage. And this innovation has, uh, that is between a knowledge generator and. Uh, and the uses of knowledge, knowledge and writers are people like us in university and users of knowledge, our industry, and the community.

There is a big gap, right? And this is called the innovation council. This is happening since six militia plan. The government has recognized that the largest source of R and D well actually came from the public universities, right? The public sector. But unfortunately, everything is remaining here. It is not fast, but to the industry, uh, and this is also a report by the world bank that unfortunately there is no lack of transfer and SMEs are indigenous technology.

Um, that is now discovered by the public sectors, which is mainly the Bobbi universities. I'm obviously transferred to the, um, industry now, is it transferred to the community? So they, you know, they shouldn't, hasn't resulted in economic disparity and. And therefore we need more engagement between academia and industry in a collaborative manner.

And we also need a policy from higher education who now say, oh, my stars made sure that KPI of the university is to actually link academia in sta not just simply say, oh, we must do academia in the KPI. So KB I down the that be, I also do the lectures. And as a result, you find that, but what's shared is not doable academia industry. He gave up obligation. So there is a need to create seamlessness between hourly priorities and call me development. In short, it must be a policy is not at KBT.

There must be a policy for a musty or somewhere that can link R and D party to economy only then can we not create in fact, so the question that you may well ask is that if this is no C6 mission plan, why do we not continue to allow this to happen? So this is a question now. Basically academia industry and move knowledge and condition based economy.

We need to do research with, uh, outputs of obligation, navigation, et cetera, but more importantly, also with creation of the problems that we stopped here, but we did not move to integration. So COVID-19 has for the economy to survive and recover. It has to be powered by technology. So we work collaboratively ecosystem with new business model. And therefore, if you ask me, where is research heading or future, it is going to be impacting the research. This is the industry.

And at the same time, it has the quality of life of the. Malicious industry, high tech, high batch. So impact driven is research results. They have gone beyond academia. This is something that you must realize, suppose all this work, everything you do, you all work in within academia community, but he now has to go beyond academia. He has to go through the community and we must be demonstrable. So impact is not about how to develop that.

I see about finding what is the discovery of the biomarker. This is more fundamental research FRGs to make the vaccine by impact is now about whether the newly developed vaccine was able to reduce the spread of the disease among the population. So this is now more sustainable and usually a cold facts of research. Impacted C academy impact and social economy impact.

So in academy impact, this is the same old, same old we'll be doing, uh, with, uh, the publications and, and, uh, and, uh, and journals and writing books and how many graduate students will use essential. But we need to now move for socio economy, and this must be outside of the area of equity.

So when we talk about academic impact, yeah, this is usually a demonstrable contribution to academic impact, including dissemination of knowledge conferences that you attend locally or internationally obligation into the impact. And then the research seminars that you do. So the above activities, uh, some things that you can come, but I did enough to create a tangible change in society or economy or ranching. And this is not enough. Why?

Because everything that you do here, what were you present this office? Where do you publish this and VCs and legal, all this, all this community, it does not go beyond academia. So post COVID-19 finally, we had an online webinar like today, whereby when you share this on Facebook, then a lot of the public and said what I have to say, not just people who register office. Now, I used to go pick them up on COVID-19.

Uh, um, all their stores now is online and people cannot be listening in, uh, and showing. And basically now you're showing them a bit of validation of knowledge. What I need to emphasize is what I signed it to say, not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts. So this is something that may see English and talk about. So, if that is the case, then why do and the university, why do we continue to do enemy?

Because that simple, it's very convenient, easier to do easier measures, easy to write and easy to report KPI to the, uh, to the ministry is an easy thing, but something intangible is and that is something that, uh, um, uh, uh, administrators, not like. So as that was easier to see just very small promotion.

I still by means of obligation, but request there is as a university who are we trying to NP our, educate our leaders, engaging their peers or aggregating actually is both yours, public, and also students. So most of the time when asked, we got an impact, we will show expected impact, not real impact black, for example, even what I've seen is expected to reduce the spread of disease by X, X is in the lab. Right.

And get a small sample, I would say, yeah, this is what it is, but essentially it's not, it's not being done in the world across the population. So if we continue to do this, that I will not meditate for the recession to them. We have not yet created a sustainable change in their life nor livelihood. So basically. We'll see, it will not be an ID to rely not to AMPA if, if this is not done in terms of impact.

So industries also do not benefit from the research into, so let us get a reminder that as researchers, our responsibility or Amana as knowledge generator is basically to contribute as well as societal wellbeing. So we need to create knowledge or change. That is a key word now, not just simply by knowledge for change, and we both the impact factor and we do so. So perhaps it's time for us to decouple, right?

The mentality must be there to decouple research impact and lose the excellence for better outcomes. Right? This single minded pursuit or ranking driven decision. Um, when we, when we have that at university is going to us there as far as recreation sponsored, we not only this compromising on quality education, but also on delivering research impact, that matters. So this was a quote that I brought from, uh, uh, on teachers lead and by professor Lee, the CEO of Samea education group, right.

Because all these ones. Um, we talk about, um, ranking and we're moving in whiskey. It wasn't ranking ranking. That's not capable very much for teaching and learning. And yet that leads to loss of the university. How do we educate children, emission or Malaysia? So basically in Malaysia, we already quite brilliant in the sense that we have Myra for R and D and we have for academy, but of course there are people who say let's combine them together, but and we just. Uh, yeah, we still not again.

So now, but essentially clouding the issue of what should be the true north of a university. So we should not talk about research because research is essential and sometime in impact, you're deviating from you moving up in the ranking, but university excellence is about teaching and learning and could concentrate very much on the, just the, um, on the, um, uh, university ranking. The teaching is just left behind.

And yet this is very important because not all about teachings now about learning, how do we make the future generation? So this is now things that need to now be able to attain to. So in terms also, so on the impact, this is imperative that we perform impactful research in the real world, rather than simply within the academic community.

And this is the responsibility of universities and academia to help with malicious economy in common plan, we need to now provide real impact and not just expected impact. And that will mean that we need to work with a quadruple helix. We need to work with academia industry and civil society. Right?

And to do that again, because we're an integrated collaborative research push via community engagement that will provide impact that matches since we are operating real impact solutions to those in need. And this is what I mean by bringing solution to the community and research excellent Moscow beyond the academic community to get wide ranging impact about the society. And only then can we not achieve Monish?

And this is the word, um, cognitive engagement, community, not community involvement as what I'm reading in the senior website. So basically, uh, community English, Mercedes, and everybody is a two way street. You transport all this at the same time, the assimilation or Malaysia as well. It is a two-way street. As much as we bring solutions to the community. We also learn from the community because as the African problem says, it takes a whole village to educate a child.

It's not just about learning in the classrooms, also learning from the environment from the community. So this is where we say community very important that we do a two way street and not transfer knowledge. I know everything. I therefore transfer this knowledge to you. So there's a lot of things that, um, whoever's in charge. Libra at some of the community, uh, should now have a proper correct perspective of what community engagement is all about. And that is why I call it.

The engagement is part of the education, higher education blueprint. This is where we provide how we use the fishing rod and not just give them. Okay. It is not a job of the university. the pool, a ruler, so, okay. You can do that. All right. But that's not what university is all about. it's about how to do things so that when you leave right then, uh, people will not benefit from the knowledge that you have imparted to them.

So this is now more important than just provide the Fisher, because if the day, you know, the providing the fish, then the villages will basically die because they're still waiting for food. Right. So you got to teach them to be independent after all. That's why universities. Well, the impact of this community engagement is actually lacking economy transformation, which is easier to measure, but more important is the exponential learning on that.

It was a character building as me now, uh, for the staff, as well as for students into the community and start to create a sustainable change because these, uh, intangibles like attributes that allow me to see, uh, happening. Right. But beyond that, uh, of course, um, every time I gave this thought the lectures were still asking me, so how can you measure impact? So impact can be measured at least by 10 indicators or change.

If you come in before there was no understanding or awareness about subject X as the, and then leave, there's not increased understanding and awareness. That is also back. Second is changing attitudes or very simple is of course economy. Uh, also social change or cultural change or policy change, or do you see it and has health and wellbeing after you not come in? Um, all in between to see decision making behavior change among the people in the, in the, in the village or something.

Uh, and have you seen our capacity or preparedness? Do you see an environmental change? So these are some of the indicators that you can use to measure. But in reality, right? In reality, it will ask the lecturers, um, uh, where are we? Uh, basically we are here, right? Um, most you are given a KPI and, uh, in terms of research, you have to do grass. You have to do like journals, papers, and mine time. We do all that and get very tired.

And yet the rule of academic is actually generate the knowledge, dissemination and translation. To about the industry. So industry is business enterprise and cuddle. This is for creating the country, but to the communities about the enhancement also cycle wellbeing. So again, when you basically, you need to persevere and pass through this and go now to the next gig, which is the commercialization, get that, uh, we feel trials and clinical trials and testing that.

And of course the production of operators and this, uh, in order for him to now deliver the key, right? So basically the perseverance to do this. And again, even for those, um, yeah, me and mama said yes, every time you have to do so you gotta be warranted. If you want to now be a successful lecturer that has actually, um, at that end deliver the Amana.

So basically for the first time, in order to make sure, uh, that academia and industry work together, that the ASCII add priority for R and D is now linked to socioeconomic development. So for the first time, the national STI policy, uh, for the country, which is launched on December 8th, 1920, officially being science and technology driver to associate for me, driver for value creation.

So to make this work and how to glue these together and, and clear, impactful research is by then, then militia as the framework. So basically, um, my STI very well, you can download. Uh, they wanted 3000 people already downloading the book and this 10, 10, my now UK, us or Australia, all asking about that then, uh, how so that they can also create that kind of thinking, uh, China, especially, uh, in, in the piece as well. So did a concept and idea effect.

Then my spae is mooted by academia sciences on that as approved by the national science council.

approved by cabinet in August 30, 20, and launch as, um, as a policy, but actually December eight 20, this I think is among the fastest that I've seen, uh, to go from February to December, uh, from, uh, of course thinking itself about that then, um, the exam time one, two years, but to come once this gone to the Um, by December, February, then my example is already launched and it is not part of the shallow, but of the, um, RMK.

Well, so is that important that you see that just understand about that then, because said, uh, coming, uh, even if the lead, the finance foundation grant, my SPIE. So essentially you're going to ask me like, what exactly is this? Um, basically, how do we right at event then? Uh, basically we did a study of, um, emerging science, engineering technology by ESM. And this is, uh, foresight study, um, uh, that we do from, uh to see what technologies will be there.

uh, we, uh, we find it out in 94, the analogies, I mean, it says you don't even remember what you ate last night. Have you remember 94, the emoji. So basically they say, okay, let's now align it to the rational vitality.

Let's look at the research capability of our lecturers and lastly, emerging and declining the obvious, especially in Google data and other seas, because we need to know from the global data analysis, it's not about the beta thing, but rather the beta file, because that will show you what are the technology that people are now filing. And that will be the Dougie of the future. So when we do all that. That's how we come to technology.

So the 94, the images can now be classed into 10 technologies and basically, um, uh, the stand that last month or Gina, this is by GCs D that on G 45 D printing, advanced material advice, intelligence system, cybersecurity, uh, that, uh, augmented analytics, blockchain, you look at energy and buying science, basically anybody working on biotech, uh, you are safe because all kind of, uh, here and, and driving this technology is not something to be equivocal about because this will be the science

and the LG that will be there for the future. I'll tell you that she is not looking on these technology. All of the industry will still be sustainable and driving. What? So we say in a post COVID-19, uh, there are also economy driver that will deliver fast post economy recovery. And one is energy, uh, business, uh, cultural asset, Louisa medical and healthcare smart technology system. Next generation engineering for smart cities and transportation, water and food and gotcha.

And patient abandonment. And. So this, uh, and how do you use these then? I asked so basically, uh, what this is about is that if you are working okay, how do you read this? You can do a horizontal and a C uh, uh, working on 5g, basically that technology can drive any of the 10 So, uh, and, but in order to make this technology work, you gotta move fundamental and applied together. It's not about just driving a black it's about fundamental to drive a black to the next level. Right?

So this, um, And in order to do all this, it also means that you got to work collaborative. This is not just a law. It has to be same with other universities as well in order to deliver the five to six G. Alright, and working on all this aspect needs, this has to go beyond the SIEM already. It has to be a collaborative effort among universities among the region, and also among our working on.

And however, if you want a little on vertical analysis, for example, to work on agriculture and forestry, all these tents that LNG is needed in order to drive. Gotcha. And again, we are looking now for return on value and not just return on investment. I will, I will, I will. I will bet its value. So basically we need to see our values as well. So this is where now will have to work with integration.

With the, all of the various disappearing sciences and other disciplines all come together in order to provide submission for agriculture. So basically how will you use the tank that I put all the tanks? The LGC. So basically you now, um, uh, don't want to think and you just say, okay, if you want to catch up on agriculture, because we have to download the book all the 10 or have this map, they will be done. What are the things that we need in order to just catch up with the world?

So we did draw an enviable position, farming or smart plants with embedded biosensors or what basically each white thing that you see here is a big cluster that you need to work on. This is not about problem providing solution to all of this, but feeding any of this solution that will be, but you can also do your own. This is just telling you if you want to catch up, we need drawn, enabled position by me.

This is the, oh, without thinking of it, telling you drone enable position for me to do that, you need to combine that as one five, Jesus needs which is advice, intelligent system and technology seven, which is data integrity. That's how you really saw these numbers here, but can't no more echo that that'd be Adela, normal technology, six, nine. And then if you want to add.

But if you want to leap from the area of agriculture, we need to go on automated precision farming machine to machine communication. We are six gene at work. All of that. I'm like, well, that's about, we don't even have the CG yet, but this is where the R and D is needed in order for us to be able to okay. So these are areas that we show to you, um, that you need, uh, in order to move agriculture to the next level.

And if we want to not be able to leapfrog the technology and whatever you develop here, if possible, ask the question, how can agriculture and palmistry innovation that we now do be integrated to other sectors as well. Like for example, drawing, uh, which is, uh, uh, probably in the engineer. Cannot be used in medicine because now we can use, draw the LNG through. Now find people who are trapped in the mountains, et cetera, and, and, uh, all drunk and not be used to spray a pesticide, et cetera.

So now you see how the drone technology from engineering is now transferred to a lot of the other sectors as well. So the spill over is something that would report to black. For example, if you use artificial intelligence, uh, to drive the rabble plantations in China. So all this is now you see there are no workers necessary and, uh, artificial intelligence is there and you just do it. And, uh, they, they actually, yeah. Produce the latex.

They cut the box at a precise manner at the right time with the sensors to tell what temperature climate, where is the best time for latex. But we in Malaysia we don't know don't care whether the weather is and the climate and the temperature is good enough at that time to have the best amount of lit that's two year latex, right? But he'll all the sensors they will tell you.

And this is when the machine actually does the cutting, see how fine the cut is being done so that the tree is not above you. Don't destroy the tree. So, and all these now, uh, the rabble is collected here and all these cannot go straight. So you will no longer need any human being to run this. The human being is waiting in the factory to actually do the, do more things with the rebels. So this. How artificial intelligence can now be used to drive the rubber plantation in China.

Um, and this is all we want controlled, right? You don't have to be there. Um, and we then show it to you. There are, uh, niche areas simply cannot be in any area equals call you. Uh, but this is in the 10 niche area. So like for example, your energy, these three areas are here in medicine, precision medicine and clinical trial. Uh, in, for agriculture, we are looking at premium, uh, local agriculture, um, and, and all that. So these are all approved already by the national science council.

And this will be the first one that will go up. So basically working on this area, uh, will allow you to get the grants and the RN K-12, or even currently ambulation grand challenge. So these are the niche area and these, these areas will be reviewed every two or three years to make sure they should catch up with the warmer. But I will access you. I will see him. I would like to share with people how we use the 10, 10 actually to drive the industry in the country.

Basically the same thing the technologies are here. And hallelujah. Um, uh, basically if you now apply my STI framework or the head of supply chain, if you want to catch up with the Halaal supply, you can do new marketing or dynamic, or the digital advertising or blockchain rework, Islamic finance services, FinTech, virtual banking, all these fam probably combined together. And then, uh, from the it group, uh, and to end Halla compliance and traceability via blockchain.

So all these ideas that academia has put together is something that we and can think about. And, uh, after that start to work on and make it even better. But again, these are the technologies that we see unique in order to pull this. So meaning to say it is not there in saying you gotta work with the universities and the. Uh, that have this. So that is what I need my collaborative.

And this is where now your, the NCPN, your RMC, whatever the connectivity that they have with other universities, so that you now know which nets in Malaysia is doing this as you can now get together with that lab. All right.

And then if you not want to leap frog in terms of, uh, we can use IOT sensor using nanoparticles and biosensor for rapid authentication along the supply chain, Mr. Yammer at the beginning, but this is something that already, uh, is in the pipeline and, and people around the world who are working on Halla is already moving this as there's a militia is not able to catch up.

So basically again for the to see whether it can scale over whatever we have before, whatever we have in terms of traceability in blockchain can also be used for the culture we can use for tourism, et cetera, et cetera. So there are many things that we can do. And basically academy. We are trying also to propose for the global health super corridor to be happening, right? Because this will be a game changer formulation.

Like for example, if you've seen our blockchain, this is the key to traceability within the supply chain, so that now you can see where and how we get all the materials that is needed to make sure that at the end of the day is there. So we must remember, we are now number one, as far as Salah is concerned. Countries, not us. Japan is already coming in big time Australia into Halla business. And this is a multi-billion dollar, a trillion dollar industry, uh, in the future.

So basically they already using blockchain and we are still going from place to place, uh, verifying. So that's why I say that, uh, we need to move big time, uh, on and treat differently. So basically the color we find is the game changer sign. So if I could resize and we look at it, we ask the question, what will be the game changer for Malaysia? I haven't been on what came up is actually Hannah and, and basically you can start with energy or the 10 so-so economy.

Uh, energy will have ethical and clean energy, and you can go for business, uh, and finance of business with the FinTech, uh, blockchain, cetera. Uh, you can read through these cultural medical, especially hello, vaccine, medical therapies, and nutraceuticals, all making. We had a, that is another one, too. What's Sharia compliant, smart technology system. Again, all of these things, what the input to make sure that there is a lot of agriculture so far St. applies in, applies everywhere.

How do we maintain a hierarchal, Yvonne? So basically all these I have shown to us, a strong Halla ecosystem in Malaysia will translate to several, a lot of suppliers. Uh, impacts on the socio economy drivers. So basically when we studied, um, the 10, 10, my STI, IE, what we found is the game-changer formulation is actually using the Halla and the strong ecosystem will translate to several spill over in pain. bullet to drive delicious.

Also the driver, they can create the HANA ecosystem, like for example, a vaccine, um, Islamic culture and us countries, equally medical tourism, and all that. And we find it all these in a Halla will spore new sectors, increasing revenue and enhancing return on value for that yet. So emulation certification incorporate the global environmental and ethical standards. Malaysian said that he will build his global competitive advantage because we have a very good reputation as far as salaries.

And wait it's not enough. Just do this in the lab. We have to bring the innovation to the localities and to do that. There's a lot of thinking that he has done because before any product can take, can take off, you have to see whether the ecosystem area is okay or not. So this is where we should be wedding with these odds. So if you want to move, it's very important that you move to the area that we have identified, where they call. So if you download the book, you can study that, uh, better.

So the thing then, um, my stre every location will actually move So in order to realize all this will happen, mostly it has to be your can militia grand challenge grant scheme. Uh, we should, well now, uh, Cabo for all the 10, uh, niche areas, uh, 10 drivers, uh and it's, uh, about 222 million. Uh, there is now there to move the mission.

So before I end, let me talk a little bit about research opportunity at, and this is, uh, thinking about museum, uh, and, uh, and this is my suggestion, uh, to see, uh, basically always, when you want to move forward, any university, you gotta ask the question. This is not a question that you have to ask for. COVID-19 right. You have to ask this question now, what is so unique about the scene? Because now, uh, how do you come back with it?

If you want to ask all the students to come or angry to come, either buy online or whatever you got to find out, what is so unique or why would I want to go through and see? All right. So therefore you got to ask about what is the strategic people shape the focusing.

So if you asked me, uh, having been seen before and now in Hawaii, I will have to say that the integration of is a strategic differentiator that moves to seam to the next level, because, um, if a colleague is listening, um, the character that questioning is have now, uh, incorporated four curriculum on Islamic science to generate the future.

Uh, Uh, basically the curriculum first in the world, I don't know that we'll see and realize these are not, but from our point of view where we have, we have the people from Morocco coming in to evaluate college. Uh um, and they evaluated the report to the ministry is that this is the first in the world character. So it's very important that you same, uh, actually get the students, uh, from publishing.

Hopefully they have a PhD when they come back from anywhere so that they can also become an extra because they will be the student who is very much. Uh, has been three athlete. all of you come back from your different disciplines for Nobody's teaching you about diversity in athlete and athlete, but the student is from Polish. Um, a genius, actually the Wednesdays benefit benefit for the things they school together.

Secondly, of course, you are values based education that you cannot forget this base, but you can create a The third thing that is uniquely yours is Islamic science. All right. So again that I see and the, uh, wherever you want it to be, and I was there, I wanted to go to the hospital. You see, uh, the, of course the ministry is AP will ask what is the difference between the hospitals? And then I'll ask people, uh, a university, Lucy, why should we now find the hospital?

Wow. My answer was that it was about the which we don't have. The wood, you know, that was saying, shoot already know if you want to defend you to make So and the last line that I would like to suggest is the move and realize I see, because we don't have people in other science to drive the industry and we don't have that assigned. We cannot get a job. the competition is happening.

The world, everybody is in Edison or in hell about size into LNG, addressee, whatever, whatever you do, just think to us, Shania compliant to us, making sure that in terms of thinking itself will now change whatever you do now to us. Uh, hello. Yeah. And move that industry. So that is me. And therefore my suggestion is to have the integration of whereby actually you have three tracks, the Islamic studies, and then we have the salami, the us, the social science and humanities.

And then we have the zoning science, engineering technology, um, how medicine and dental and architecture, perhaps all of these things but this excellence in the tree. If we talk about multi-disciplinary interdisciplinary or even transdisciplinary and moving to us, Sharia compliant, uh, moving to us, um, had our signs to drive along industry.

And of course, uh, on the platform of the sun science, uh, maybe one in four to be a high impact glauca Islamic science university back then to, uh, Perhaps these achievable and I hope to remind, uh, that local is offering local solution to answer global problems. Right? So basically you only have to do the research wise. It's not like doing research for late. Would we research for a local line if you were to do that? The research quality is not there yet. Basically like if I want to do on that.

Whatever that you'll speak that I do well, probably solve the solution in Malaysia, but wherever will also benefit on that. So this is what we mean by providing local solution to answer global problems. Right. So that is, uh, the in your, um, uh, website. But basically I like to bring back, um, this, I like this slide. This is a slide that I use all the time when I was at the scene. Um, and I not word from Yeah. So that to me is powerful in terms of, uh, creating impact.

And I've always used finally Disani science where we spearheaded Monisha, because this will be new. Um, new perspective where we start So ladies, I end my, by saying my prayers policy so that you can now be distinguished and also distinguish Islamic science university and transform and create value for the country and humanity. That to me is more powerful in terms of where and uh, which a lot of a lot, uh, uh, thank you. Thank you very much for the good eye, but I am spiritually sharing, right.

Especially if you have other thinking, but we'll see. And it's even as some suggestions, the strategic differentiated, right. Uh, what we've seen is, and we're supposed to be, I've seen, uh, Uh, audiences from KGI, right? So postings and chats, uh, from kids on jet, uh, uh, right. I think it's quite a win for some, so I would just allow some time for questions to be posted I'm keen for forward to, it's not, yeah, it's a day.

So I'll just, uh, maybe, uh, the thing is that he to, uh, put us, uh, put on the table by, is, I'll say though we have to collaborate. So even if it's not there, it would seem, just find it, uh, is like to do too. You just have to match that thing needed, right. That team needed, uh, in. And the dry for knowledge for change, right?

10 to 10, my then by getting your science store thankful of the academy and the essay is the fastest so-called that policy has been endorsed by the government December 10 month. Right. It's quite uncommon for, for, to go with the thing. All right. Uh, and it's so a social responsibility as now, SCOBY outbreak anywhere is a risk everywhere we are in this division. Uh again, like, so just have to like, uh, open up your, uh, Perspective to assume you search, right?

Because it's above the Armana of any Islam, either ski and they'll find you, right. Uh, because, uh, as the expansion of government, uh, you put a site a 1.04 for, I mean, I, I, and how. And picked up from this COVID, uh, uh, to really, uh, get to, uh, be able to get to, uh, to acquire ability, uh, uh, connection, uh, internet connection now, no more. all. So that's the area of research that you need to, to really venture.

And I am very sure when we talk about this and let's start to put up this overwhelming immense, uh, EMS areas that should be, uh, picked up there. Oh, I didn't sooner. I'm really like, so overwhelmed with it. Right. And then where do I fit in where they're in? So that as mentioned, it's frat from the fundamentally, right from there up to the high, high end technology. So that's where the whole circle of the, of the research.

Uh and, uh, poster somewhere, uh, on the things that cause because we have seen this asset, emerging science and technology for when, uh, at TGI, uh, from uh, uh, ready, uh, Showed us the slide on the stre right on the only certain asset and I in 2017, seek it. And I, uh, they, he has told the ProMat ins and that neuro science is an independent integrated fee before for mudita or for geniuses and two to prospect and hung doula.

Many of says, uh, Keen to have neuroscience mind, new psychology brain mapping up to edit thing, the relationship between speed and it's this junction with mathematical logics among we are clearly so we can see a future there. Yeah. So, um, so, uh, so, uh, excited to see the perspective future, uh, from KJ. So I really like to find, okay. Ah, there's a question, uh, from, from the audience. All right. Uh, in your opinion at, okay. Why is it militia has a very low elevated output from Yana as me.

Yeah. Um, thank you for the question, essentially. It's not about new, innovative food, but rather than. Uh, indigenous, uh, technology output so recently, um, uh, innovative product here is losing our own day.

And I think I have only, um, explain, uh, the reason why we have that is because of the inhalation castle, um, that, uh, most of the, and the most of the ideas to create indigenous technology, lastly, the public sector, which is the diversity, but the is not, um, uh, because of the lack of, uh So when we are not working in the industry, we basically prefer just to publish about the technology and don't work, um, with the industry, then industry do not mean.

From the Bitmoji that we have this habit. So because of that, uh, that is why, uh, we have a new, um, uh, innovative, uh, that is indigenous. Yeah. But as well as brought up, you seeing, uh, adaptive, uh, the energy that we bring, the technology portfolio, and then we put it together, uh, by now very high. So simulation is among the highest, uh, we should, uh, either we'll bank, uh, Misha is among the highest.

So we have money to actually bring, uh, other people's technology and altogether, but, uh, uh, and we don't. And one of the reasons why the innovation has, is the lack of trust between academia and industry. And that is something I think there needs to be, um, uh, uh, uh, remedied, uh, quite fast. And, uh, I mean, every branch or every university is there, uh, in terms of your holdings is the, all that to be able to allow, uh, the working with the industry.

Uh, but for some reason, um, well most of us are not familiar and that's why we are not looking the industry and. Uh, in the transformation of the university, we have only encourage universities to hire lecturers from the industry. So that mindset. Yeah. Um, and that, uh, or even I have John Mitchell from the industry. So then that part, uh, apple um, uh, but, um, uh, um, we should now be thinking where we are designing our research so that, uh, it is, uh, can benefit the industries.

So it will, uh, um, because of the English and that. Uh, I think I may present that is good. International science council ministers also asking, you know, uh, for top down, uh uh, that do not work with the industry. The lack of enough is enough. So basically how do we make it only make it work? And that's why the Alicia grant and grant is there to realize so manager you've now had fundamental.

And then you now have initial grand challenge fundamental, uh, about, uh KBD and then you have now Alicia grandchild and you see that mostly. So then you can now, uh, create, um, this, uh, I've been able to find an ankle is technology readiness level one to do all right. And then starting from three on soundbite is all about, uh, about mostly grants. So, so now you hopefully we'll see a seamless.

Um, to the move, uh, about the, about that across from fundamental from 1, 3, 2 all the way today, as she told the community. So that, that is the whole approach, creating that seamlessness, um, about, um, the soft green in the actual moment. Another question for shine. decent. Uh Since that the Bobby university, a thought half copy of Boise for commercialization is then national. uh, uh, okay.

Uh, I um, about, um, uh, commercialization policy, uh, uh, if, if you are a member of the, uh, uh, commercialization, uh, all the university, again, I, the, um, commercialization IP policy office. And so, uh, every, it was the idea. So, um, the, we have a society at, uh, ministry of higher education that society of all the directors of the, um, uh, IP policy we'll be together. And they, I think they have shared a about metallization policy. So this is the time.

This is a time, uh, APOE four seem to get to us and get to, uh, um, you know, to, uh, be able to get a copy of the authorization policy and actually, um, you know, trying to say what is in fact Um, policy so that you can share your gun down. Um, both policy on commercialization, push on policy on commercialization, um, the whole university policy equity I mean, uh, is uh, is you don't have to reinvent the wheel.

So why was the especially uh, and especially, um, uh, Uh, you as a sign and what you do then? Uh, U S black brothers on gang. My theme. Okay. Your opinion about trends in relation SMP. I think what we have shown, uh, is the, uh, my spae that will be post COVID for SMP, for sure. Because there is only part of RMP.

Uh, well, uh, uh, uh so it will become, in fact now we'll see, we'll see that ESM is now doing more than 80 to monitor agencies, various ministries, because every ministry not being uh, APA, um, defense not being also, we have to show them about this has been Um, uh, introduce it. And then, um, you know, militia is very good in producing new breeds, uh, but implementation NEMA program or SAP. So rather than that happening that already, that's why.

We have a lot of engagement because every little Napoleon down the line, so walk and then time 10, 10. It's not about the So we are going down to even the chief ministers, the head of state, the quality doors, the uh, all these, uh, all the agencies, um, step-by-step uh um, then, um, uh, uh, anguish, uh, the last day more people understand now policy, um, uh, policy for them.

Now this happened, so we passed the um, uh, let KKM for example, work together in a So that also, uh, uh, one on the future, we move, uh, the 10, 10, and one of the projects will be positioned that said, uh, that, that is one, uh, position uh, is also another one. And that's why we also are applying big time.

In fact, we are moving for, uh, in terms of the country, uh, one of these, uh, the other, uh, iconic, uh, Hannah, uh, suddenly he is digital healthcare, um, uh, the, uh, ability, um, for uh, and feedback. So is another one that we did the four site. Uh, so fam uh, I don't know, the fairness are not. So, um, uh, uh, FinTech is, uh, is, uh, is a word that you want to be able to now.

So that's what I said, nobody, as far as handle said, same, uh, should be able to move to a or even highlight, because like I said, Sam was doing Halla will be sure things, but this is where it will seem less foggy the high-tech lab. So you collaborate with, and Amanda, I use you because it is Uh, hello, uh, moving science. So it's not about uh, is a very big hole, um, especially in before.

So, um, know we cannot move, but we need the scientists ask the question so that now I will not be able to show, uh, what uh, premise, uh, when you do research, go back to the normal secular research. So the, this, this, uh, this is, that's why I said, where am I going to be able to come in? That means we are still disappear. You're still siloed. Uh Uh, how does science that day? There's no problem because working together we'll do this.

Um, and people like now, uh, RSP, uh, uh, should be able to collaborate now, uh, uh, diagnostics. So like, for example, uh, well, those emails said, um, uh, well, uh, if you will trying to make something like that in speak by example, and you're trying to make it well, but still you have to see the empire. um, probably, uh, if you're growing, the bacteria is from the, from the media itself. So change the media to get media.

Yeah. Uh, uh, at all, we did the, uh, we did a collaboration with Cuba and Jackie check but when you start thinking then your procedure is just a matter of adjustment and ensure that because, all right. So, and, and the beauty of it is that you can work besides computer. You can blockchain.

I mean, every part of that is not going to be So that whole thinking concept, not the same old way of doing things, I hope that the heels move, uh, this, uh, intervention can we have uh, be a ranking and rating of all the boundaries and the RPD. So how to make it relevant in the real world, uh, is island. The last thing is to mainstream KPI about obligation. Obligation is part of journey or obligation, but we have to translate that into something all right.

Uh, what have you done with the knowledge? That is what we still is all about, right? So, so basically Um, and you say but that is the essence of a university. So, uh, daddy thought management KPI as what we do in life. So that'd be another, uh, thought maybe as you learn. Uh, so, um, what is going to be unique or SIM, uh, can also be right. So I see you cannot see um, uh, single mind. Goodness. One thing to move ranking, uh, that, that you have forgotten.

I bought a tune off of what industry is about. So that's why I say uh, rankings, but I, unless I'm thinking this is excellent and gain. Yeah. It has to create in back as to creating back because I got obligations or job then, because that citation impact factor. So what happened naturally off about future relation generation to be as the blueprint says a lot that. That's what we need to have a future generation formation global mindset.

So all the things that we would like, uh, to actually guide us and the cognition to separate between uh, uh and plus Okay. Um, there's a question from and because he knew that I were always the lowest lowest in that. Do you think that is because we, uh, so call and then the one is, uh, is it because use of, uh, English again, just say it right. It is the lack of trust with, uh, that technology. Uh, Greg is a combination. Uh, that'd be. Problem is our ecosystem, our ecosystem ecosystem.

Uh, I thought when the university and that becomes like a mosquito bite, you know, like what is something that you can do and testing, uh, is just good enough to be a company. It could be an industry, shoot incentives, come in, shoot. Um, we allow for, uh, sandbox do not facilitate, you know, so someone that'd be uh um, uh, move the economy oriented. Get the adaptation science endowment that can now move this as well. And then, uh, all of these, so provenance ensure we need an ecosystem.

It's not about that January. It's not about any really ecosystem the ecosystem. Number one, trust between academia and the industry. First, these data trust be able to now to work together. When we start to work together, then only we can call it. intellectual property below the university. We can belong to the industry. So what we need to have is our lawyers also must understand industry law can belong to the industry.

invent the We are better off because their industry, once they're in money, they can commercialize that. Right. So as inventor, we will benefit. And because inventor is linked to the investor, to the university, that loyalty, you use people don't. So let's say so by us. Got any lawyer lawyer? No. So now once the legal, uh, uh, number one. Uh, so, so that, that is how we can now work. So the legal, legal, uh, university context.

So ecosystem, uh, uh, along the ecosystem now with TCAB at decriminalization accelerator, they have, um, Uh, uh, uh, sandbox, uh, all this now will be facilitated to move commercialization, to move economy or into research. And hopefully I will, upper SME can play mascarpone and then move up. uh, w uh, among our problem, the country is that we do not put enough, uh, application, uh, commercialization. Uh, we put a lot of education in fundamental, but not in, not in experiential development.

So about 24% well, other countries that move must be about 50%. So that M K-12 we are trying now to, uh, move, uh, from 24% up to 50%. So company, um, I thought we'll see. Yeah, and that grit is coming from the, uh, upper venture cap. Uh, all these are coming from that 50% of exponential development. So beloved to get that back from you, the money, then you can set up the company, then you can commercialize and you can set up. So it essentially is it's driving to a hotline.

That's why, uh, well, uh, my job is not about just one or two it's about the empire ecosystem ecosystem. Uh, we will, we need, uh, do as far as, uh, indigenous technology and, uh, uh, Micah took the Jedi. I technician by 2030 probably will be affected. Uh, that easy because we are not using our whole language. And by September, we'll be disliked in Japan, German in your essence, and you call it about, uh, not about, uh, um, what about language?

Uh, uh, um, no, it's not about that indigenous technology you need. Um, uh, but indigenous the energy that is baked into it, my Knight had a 4,000. So basically these are all the emails. That's how you can get Peter. And so we can do that in English that Amazon alone, the problem is that we need industry to now use this. Then obviously the industry becomes indigent. The technology industry, that is the whole idea of what can be Panda indigenous knowledge to the university.

So that's why the innovation council, uh, exists is that ecosystem academia industries, that the young will not move. So scanny, you can also know that we need to income generate. This is the time, uh, for, uh, uh, vice-chancellors and whatnot, to also encourage academia industry, uh, so that we can now commercialize, uh, Um, I think there's no questions. We both, but I have my own experience in 1994. Uh, I, I was, uh, the, uh, um, we, we represent the Malacca for botanical Fiji.

Uh, So w I was at a firm for less time. And our, our eventually was, uh, the, uh, now I'm buying an automated when it read and then it just pull every single clue then whatever, the things that we drive, uh, into the And during that time, 1984, the, uh, the champion in Johanne was at national leverage. from, uh, It was his collaborator got gumbo. And the invention was actually a microphone that, uh, came up, uh, from the podium and stops at certain at certain point.

So that's the, the, the champion. And, uh, during that time, 1984, I only. The how they managed to actually create the innovation is, uh, is all about the golden ratio. It's about the issue. So how do you determine the microphone can stop at a point where it is the it's in the mouth. We did a move of the, uh, of someone who's going to speak, right?

So it was in 1984 and we were, we were then called, uh, to a verb and the feature, every single, uh, inventions from other, from, from that particular and everyone was like waiting, what's it going to be right until I saw that particularly technology on. Uh, academia, what stage? So that will imagine it, uh, about 10 to 20 years after that it's the technology from, uh, was on academia was, uh, it was quite a window, I think. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So I was, I was thinking of the technology or the innovations from Uh, from before that memo microphone and came up from there, from this stage of the podium. So I began to understand that how they managed to do is to go the issue with this form is okay. So, so I begin for them to, to, to understand how a high-performing school and now, uh, right. And, and also they need to about the incident and being able to do a book for see neuroscience neuro-psychology and all that.

And so as the mapping goes in the asset, uh, figure. And so I see that it's only nearing 2050, that we'd be able to read minds, right. Which, uh, which we are beginning to realize the translation, uh, understanding also the Allah I, there. To find it yet. I got 15, 16 about Nancy, Nancy, I think a didn't call. So, Hey, there's only 2015 when we met at EBD. Cause if you see, we are able to do this brain mapping, being able to read minds, right. Using technology, we are able to translate it.

Yeah. Well that definitely wasn't any, that is the you little science is a technology. It's one up at 10. So I think you've got to be able to do these minor, the mind mapping even faster, especially then, so that everything now needs to be personalized. Uh, so we need to have data and a proposition message to move. Obviously, data is very, very important.

So patient not all data, because we need to now see all genetic makeup of individuals is going to be different how's that will drop because everything's now moving to personalized medicine or position to take place. So, um, I'm glad that we are moving to position because that will mean the infrastructure need to be in place for position the infrastructure is there. Then we are moving to 40 60. Then we are moving that you need to last banana to spill over. Right.

We can move back and depend on the town pool, and we are still at 4g. And then. And my stated again, I think very simple challenge, um, because I got the, um, uh, uh, Le learning that would be online. Right? How did it go? It is all students have to come back to the university, uh, in order to get So my question is if internet is not the answer, what is your alternative?

Uh, is it lifeline as an alternative, not wifi, but lifeline, can we not do some other alternative, uh, in order to have online learning happen? So online learning happening on alternative that depend on. You see it online learning can happen. Many other modes. Why do you need internet so what am I has got on me? Why is this?

This is the challenge for R and D where you really want extra and oriented, uh, thinking to now provide a solution because you want to, you need to go online, not in a COVID case. Lucky you did that now work from home, right. online. Uh, so, so all those methods, so this is the solution that we are looking for. So this is something that, uh, actually we need to work on, uh, and th that genuineness rather than, uh, you know, uh, waiting for just internet and you're mocking up on internet.

Uh, do something about it.

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