#1116: March 13, 2006

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I love you. Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. I'm Dan. I'm Jordan. We're a couple dudes, like to sit around worship at the altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Oh indeed we are Dan Jordan. Dan Jordan. Quick question for you. What's your bright spot today, buddy? Well, it's still February, so uh tradition dictates that you must go first. Uh, fair enough. I suppose uh my bright spot today is that it is Getting I I uh here's what I'll do. I'll do this, right?

I just want to know what the weather's going to be in the future. Right? So rather than try and hope for better weather, what I'm gonna do is say that my bright spot is things are getting warmer. Yeah. And the future appears to be getting warmer still. It does look like that. Now, granted, we're coming from a place of very cold. This is why.

I am saying this now because when it gets cold again, I'll know that it's my fault. So I'm r I'm expecting it to get cold again, despite the lies of them saying that it's going to be warm. So I'm going to say that I'm grateful that it's warm, thus guaranteeing that it will continue to be cold. It's starting to feel a little bit like

tolerable. And that is nice news for people who like to be outside. Whether you have to walk a dog or I want to go to the woods. Yeah. You know, like it it's been not Not an option really. Yeah. For a bit. This this morning was the first couple of ti uh like the last couple of days was the first time that I gotten to take the dogs out without shoes. Uh in the morning for a long time. There's talk of forties. I I've heard madness. Madness. A balmy forty. Do you not remember it was negative?

Of thirty a while back. Sure was. Crazy. Yeah, man. Well, I'm glad that you're taking the time to be grateful to the universe for being warmer. Absolutely.

How about you? What's your bright spot? Um my bright spot I guess is that because it's still been a little bit cold and I haven't been able to go uh to the woods. I have uh started replaying uh Pikmin. Okay. Uh from the beginning. Oh so I started at one and I'm gonna go through them up till four. Yeah. And uh yeah, I'm gonna see if I can get through it without the me getting annoyed by the game or it bothering me. Yeah.

Uh'cause I remember I love all of them and I've I have positive memories of it. Yeah. And so far I've made a real quick run through Pikmin One. Yeah. Like that's a pretty small game, all things considered. Right. Um but yeah, it's it's been a delight. I'm excited for two. Um and uh we'll see we'll see where it goes from there. We'll see where it goes. Might be a it might be a deeper relationship. Maybe you know.

Maybe by the time Pikmin five comes around you'll be a Pikmin five. Yeah, probably not. It's a lot of fun to throw those little guys around and pick up stuff. Solve little problems. Is it is Pikmin like uh'cause I've never played Pikmin, but my understanding of it is is it is essentially like the the uh uh cubed version of lemming.

No. From the old, old d lemmings days. It's like you multiply that in a bunch of different ways and you get Pikmin. Not really, because lemmings are all about getting through a course. Right. Or whatever. And the lemmings walk forward And you have to have ones that blow up things in order to blow something up. Yes. Or dig pi uh digging lemmings. Right.

It's not like that,'cause that's on rails. The lemmings keep moving forward. No matter what. Yeah. Yeah. And the Pikmin, uh, they follow you around and you can throw them at stuff. Right. And uh so you're Captain Olimar in the first one. Okay. You've crash landed on the planet. Oh boy. And uh it may or may not be Earth. Probably is Earth. Probably Earth. Um and you find uh little guys

Uh little little little alien guys. Yeah. And uh they like you and uh you hit it off and uh you find you can throw them at stuff and then they'll uh break down walls. and pick up things so you have to go find all the pieces of your craft. Yeah. Your your spaceship that has been broken. on this uh planet. This is a new take on the alien invasion. A lot of people lately have been going uh, you know, more independence day with it. I I like this. I like this style. This is like uh

I essentially meeting the dodo and then using it to solve problems, if I understand correctly. Sure. And you have as much concern for their well being as the dodo. That's about right. But there's there's something that really is is it strikes a deep tone uh about the game uh with where you're stuck on this planet and you're lonely.

You know, like there's no one around. You're the only human on this planet except your little friends. Uh your little Pikmin friends. Absolutely. And then in future games you have to come back on behalf of like a corporation that wants to make money off this plant. Jesus Christ. But I think that I think there's a satire in it. I think that there's there's Anyway, um I'm enjoying it and uh hopefully two will live up uh to my memories. Yeah, that'd be nice.

So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. All right. And it's gonna be a mini little little probably a short episode, a bagel boss sized episode. Um I made Jordan watch the Bagel Boss video before the episode before we started. Sometimes whenever I miss out on something, it it delivers. Sometimes. Most of the time whenever I miss out on stuff. No big deal. No problem. This one, there was a there was a solid punch at the end. To me, that like um

I I made a reference to the Bagel Boss and you were super confused. And to me that feels like Haktua level of like, you have to know what this is. How did you miss that? I've missed Haktua. But you know what that is. I do now because you explained it to me in almost the exact same kind of circumstances. I didn't seek out Hoktua. It was foisted upon me. As the same with Facle Boss. I would like I would like to not know who these people are. No, I'm getting trickle down memes from you. Mm.

I think you secretly know about these things and you pretend not to. What to what end? To what it's just you and me Your wife doesn't come home and be like, Jordan, you gotta hear about the bagel boss The kids at school are talking about it. I don't have anyone to impress by watching or not watching. My dogs will not care one way or the other. That's not true. That is not true. Sonny sunny is the little jacusi. There is that. Yeah.

So uh anyway, bagel boss sized episode, short uh uh in stature. Salty. And uh we'll get down to business on uh what's going on. But first Let's take a moment to say hello to some new wonks. Oh, that's a great idea. So, first, uh Bia L. Zebev and her 100-foot-tall mantis being that breaks your will. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk. I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next, Trucker Pikachu. Thank you so much. You're now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk. Thank you very much. Thank you. And uh MJB saying happy fortieth birthday, love MLB. That would be amazing. Thank you so much, you're now policy wonk. I'm a policy won. Thank you very much. Thank you. And we had a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. So thank you so much to Happy Anniversary, my Darth Jar Jar of the Caribbean. You are now a technocrat.

I'm a policy wonk. Four stars. Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. Someone someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. Daddy Sharp. Bomb bomb. Bump bump. Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. He's a loser, little little titty baby. I don't wanna hate black people. I renounce Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you very much. So we are back in the past. Sure. And uh our last episode was about march tenth, uh, two thousand six.

And there is no eleventh or twelfth because There's no uh Saturday. And Alex didn't have a Sunday show. It was the first year I remember that. It was the first year they got rid of the tenth and eleventh or the eleventh and twelfth of March. It's like hotels with the thirteenth floor. Exactly. Oh six was a rough year for people. So we the Monday is the thirteenth. And there was a part of me that was like, Well, let's check back in on the present. Let's just get a little taste of

Epstein files are going crazy. People are very sure that something's gonna happen. Sure. Yep. A lot of uh folks on uh Alex's Team were mad about Bad Bunny. Sure. So, you know, there's some interesting stuff maybe to get into. Yeah. But I dipped into the thirteenth.

And there was a major world news event that I think we had forgotten happens right here. Oh my god. And so I I I we had to I had to stick around and talk about this. Yes, please. Um and so that news is that Slobodon Milosevic has died. All right. murder of Sullivan Molajovic and the admitted poisoning uh that he underwent. Wonder why? Well, because he was testifying uh on his own behalf and exposing how Al Qaeda works for the US government and was attacking his country.

And that was in a Republican report by the Senate in nineteen ninety nine. Again, Al Qaeda always working for its its father. Uh it's sprung from the loins of the NWO and is a is a dutiful hound uh when it comes to running down uh sovereign nations. So yeah, the big news for this weekend was that Slobodon Milosevich had died in a prison cell at The Hague. Uh and Alex has immediately decided this is murder. I mean I I I Here's what I think. I think of all the things that I was expecting

The first one that we were going to hear wasn't going to be something that was like, I'm kinda on Slovan on Milosevic's side. Wait for it. Okay.'Cause the vibe I'm getting is I'm I'm saying that Slobodon was framed. I feel like that's what I'm getting. episode though uh our content is short and there is not that much to talk about, there's a lot to talk about. It's a weird he's a weird take. Why pick the Okay, fine. Okay, fine.

So it's only been a few days, but the InfoWars forensic team has determined that this was a poisoning case closed. Sure. Done and done. So Alex is wrong about this, and Milosevic died of a heart attack. His trial for crimes against humanity had been going on for over four years at this point, and it hadn't finished at the time of his death. He'd done a lot of crimes against humanity. So that was just them naming the number of crimes that he'd done against humanity. Yeah, he was a bad dude. Yeah.

So part of the reason that the trial went on as long as it did was because Milosevic was in such poor health. This is explained in the report on the investigation of his death. Quote The trial was interrupted frequently during the prosecution case because of Mr. Milosevic's health.

In August two thousand two the trial schedule was reduced on the recommendation of the cardiologist treating Mr. Milosevic, doctor Van Dickman, to allow four consecutive days of rest every two days uh two weeks of trial. This was further reduced in September two thousand three on the advice of doctor Van Dickman to a trial schedule of only three days sitting a week.

They did a full toxicology uhcology report and found that there was no sign of any poisons in his system, just the regular medications that he was prescribed for things like blood pressure. Sure. There's one interesting wrinkle, which is that a blood sample taken from him in January, two months prior to his death, did have traces of rifampsin in it, which wasn't prescribed.

This is an antibiotic that's used to treat leprosy and tuberculosis, but it can have a side effect of making drugs meant to deal with hypertension less effective. It's unclear how he would have gotten this drug without it being prescribed since he was in a prison, but it provides a possible explanation for how Milosevic could have been at a greater risk of heart attack at that time.

The autopsy and toxicology report done after his death showed that he didn't have any rifampicin in his system though, so it's unlikely that him having a heart attack uh like But two months prior there was that blood test. And that's interesting and that's where the poisoning argument comes from. But it for Alex. Is almost certainly just a wild coincidence that has absolutely nothing to do with this.

And he was in prison. With severe problems with his heart. Yeah. Yeah. He had uh some arterial issues. Yeah. Ah I feel like here's what I'm saying, all right? If you've got one of those guys You gotta kill him before he dies. You know, we gotta we gotta be like, Hey, listen, this guy's gonna die, but we gotta do it. We gotta take you out. We can't just let's on principle. Yeah, we can't just let life take listen, life is gonna take all of us sooner or later, but this one's for us, you know?

Yeah, and I d I d I d I don't know how I would argue with that. It certainly connects to some feelings. Um yeah, I uh and and in terms of this uh poisoning argument. Yeah. I would say that it's less like a coincidence the way you're saying, but it's unrelated to the cause of the world. Right, right, right, right, right. It's n him having that in his system is not a coincidence. Right.

But it's not an attempted poisoning. Coincidence is a literal word that could be used, but the implication is not the name. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So on the surface, it seems weird that he would have this antibiotic in his system and it not be something he was prescribed. But in early February, the guards searched his cell and they found other prescribe unprescribed medications that were smuggled into him by privileged visitors.

Okay. He had a privileged office that was outside? You gotta kill him. Yeah. Well, I mean he's a like former head of state.

Have confidential meetings and you gotta kill'em. So basically here's what was going on. Milosevich wanted to be given a provisional release to get medical treatment in Russia, presumably as some part of a plan to flee. there and and hide in exile. How would you not? He either evade international law or delay his trial to a point where he could escape from

What he was clearly coming. Yeah, and good on him. That's what you should be trying to do. Yeah. So he didn't comply with his prison medical team, but was getting outside medical attention smuggled to him, which he took in the form of him uh not taking various things that he was prescribed.

and taking other things that he wasn't prescribed that people had brought into the prison for him. Crazy. He had a very serious heart condition and through his unwillingness to cooperate with a treatment plan, he made his own death much more likely. Sure. Although probably not like a suicide attempt on his part.

He's trying to derail something in order to get to Russia. Whatever was going on people had a bad plan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And one of the things, if you read through the like full report on his uh his death There were unprescribed medications that he was taking that someone had snuck into him in the prison that were things that the doctors tried to get him to take. And he had refused. Right. Yeah. He had refused it from the like prison doctors. But he would take it from these people.

It's a derailment of the the prison uh health care. Yeah, well I mean, you know, I I I understand Totally not taking something prescribed and then taking the exact same thing from somebody that you trust who gave it to you. Uh especially but that's because you're crazy, right? If you're at the Hague with your own like private room. You're being taken care of so much better than you have any right to be. Why would they murder you that way? You know at that point too. That'd be ridiculous.

So Alex is like hey man Milosevic set up. It was all a setup. I cannot believe that. Nope. Before I get into all of that, let's get into some of the Milajevic, who was clearly murdered. Back in the early nineteen nineties, ITN admittedly produced fake video. of a food storage pantry, a a s cinder block aid building.

uh part of a UN building that had uh food and it showed about fifty people li you've all seen the footage on the cover of Time magazine it still shot of the video up against the barbed wire begging for food. But uh our media, starting with ITN over in England, said that

that these were concentration camp victims behind barbed wire begging for food. It turned out it was an MI six propaganda piece. Much like Saddam throwing babies out of incubators was admitted paid for Pentagon PR that's now admitted. It's just a total lie. But it didn't matter. That spurred uh the US to support the UN going in and stealing large portions of Serbia and engaging in mass murder of the Serbian people. Now I'm not getting into a fight here with the Croats and the Muslims.

and everybody else. Okay, man. So Alex is talking about the Bosnian War, which lasted from nineteen ninety two to nineteen ninety five. That war was a piece of the larger fallout from the breakup of Yugoslavia, which led to the creation of the state of Bosnia and Herzegovina. This was a country that had a largely split population, with the major blocks of Bosniaks and Serbs, who were Muslim and Orthodox, respectively, and a minority population of Croats who were mostly Catholic.

The Serb population of the country did not support the uh unified independent government of Bosnia and Herzegovina and had a separatist streak, aligning with the country directly to their east, Serbia, whose president was Slobodan Bolosevic. Right. Simultaneously the Croats and Bosniaks didn't really get along and they were fighting each other, which helped make it easier for the Serbs to take over most of the country with the aid of Milosevic.

The picture that Alex is talking about from the cover of Time magazine was of a man named Fikrat Alec, who was at the time being held at the Turnopulge camp, which was a Serbrun prison, not a food depot. This was in nineteen ninety two and word had reached the media about a concentration camp called Omarska, where Croats and Bosnian Muslims were alleged to be being held and tortured. Yeah. The Serbs offered to allow Western media to come in to tour Om uh Omarska and see how wrong this story was.

And while they were there, journalists uncovered that detainees had been taken from Omarska to other more obscure detention centers in advance of their visit. The guy in that time magazine cover had arrived at Tremolchba uh from another camp. Karaterm where he witnessed a hundred and thirty people being murdered in a hangar. Sure. He had just arrived there recently because of the reshuffling around of detainees.

After speaking to the media, Fikrat Alec was targeted and likely would have been killed had he not managed to escape from that camp, where only four days later over two hundred people were executed, including his cousin. That sounds right.

The I T V footage that Alex is talking about, you can you can find it. It's it's on YouTube and there's no other way to put this. Alex is fucking lying. Yeah. About uh You know, an ethnic cleansing campaign that was carried out in the the nineties uh in Bosnia and Herzegovina.

D yeah that one was Yeah. So Like even with a bad memory, I remember Omarska. I wasn't even barely alive. The wall. Yeah, and him being like, No, it was a food depot. Everyone was like like w what That's what that's what it's wild. That's why you gotta that's why you gotta get'em just to let everybody know that monsters can be you monsters are real. So monsters can be defeated. Exactly. Yeah. Yep. So um I mean

You might be coming away from this with the perspective that Alex is like, Hey, I like this Milosevic guy. It feels like he's very much in the Milosevic camp, uh but There are very few camps that are good to be in if you are in one of Molo's avisha's camps. First of all, those camps were food depots. And second of all, Alex. Is like, hey man, he was a bad guy. Sure. He's a bad guy. Sure. But all this stuff about him is also a lie. No So Sloven Molajovic

Did a lot of bad things, but but most of what you hear is a lie. Most of the official stories you hear is a fraud. Al Qaeda, led by the super CIA officer Osama bin Laden, this is a Senate report. It's why Alphonse D'Amato, he thought he was doing his job and they railroaded him out of there real fast and he put this report out. Uh Al Qaeda, starting in nineteen ninety seven, began rocket attacks, attacks on schools, the good old CIA favorite of blowing up school buses.

And then Waslobo ordered troops uh into the south into Kosovo. Uh they went down there and they uh said, We want the Muslims to stay, you're welcome to stay, live in peace, we're just gonna kick out uh the paramilitary forces, the KLA, which was openly CIA funded. So the KLA or the Kosovo Liberation Army is an entire different piece of this history. They were an Albanian separatist group that had wanted to be independent from Yugoslavia and then Serbia after Yugoslavia broke up.

This has to do with the Kosovo War that went from nineteen ninety eight to nineteen ninety nine, which also involved Slobodan Milosev. But is different than the Bosnian War, which was the situation that led to that Time magazine cover that Alex was complaining about in the last clip. Right.

This was a war that was taking place within Serbia, since Kosovo is a territory that was then uh in Serbia. So Alex can make an argument that Milosevic's atrocities against the KLA and the Albanian population in Serbia is a justified measure meant to kep uh keep the country together. Sure. He'd be wrong, but at least Milosevic was technically the head of Serbia.

With the Bosnia stuff, that was a neighboring country. It it was before Kosovo. So if Alex wants to play this game, he needs a better timeline and this is a mess. Yeah, I uh Of of this I know very little of this chunk of history in this region. Of what I do know. It has been uh like

The only what w uh learning what I have known only makes it clear that if I wanted to learn the story, I would have to spend the rest of my life trying to learn the story. Do you know what I mean? Like Trying to say I'm an expert on this situation is a Terrible idea. Yeah. And and don't uh please don't get the impression that I'm saying I know everything about it either. No, no, no. Um I I know enough to know that Alex is missing a lot of it. Here are two things I know. One if you're

familiar enough with Slowbod to call him Slowbo, we got a problem. You know what though? I like it. I love it. I love Slowbo. Slowbo's good. I love Slowbo. In the same way that like blago is good for Biggie. Exactly. I think I think Slobo would get you killed though. At the height of at the height of Slobo's power, I think Slowbo's getting you dead. If you're a serious and corrupt politician

It's great to have a nickname that ends in O. Totally. Especially uh Bo. If it ends in something Bo. Yeah, yep. Blog O. Mm. Slowboat. I can't Slowbo. That's such a great yeah. And then two, I feel like we're getting foreshadowing of a very uh uh uh strong preference for Single guys who go on murder sprees. Yeah. Yeah. In particular ways. Yeah.

So anyway, um the real issue here is that Slobo wasn't playing ball with the globalists. That'll happen. So i i it's just the same thing over and over and over again. He had a sovereign nation. I don't agree with his politics, don't agree with his views, don't agree with a lot of things. And he was not playing ball with the globalists and he wouldn't let the New World Order banking system take over, just like uh what's happening in Venezuela right now.

And so in two thousand they staged a CIA coup and overthrew him and killed and assassinated and arrested most of his former ministers. And they've broken the country up and the place has been bombed with D U and the Burke effects are uh almost c what quad quadrupled. They've uh our troops have tripled, but they're not ever in country as long. They've tripled from the first Cold War, but there's a

uh right at a quadrupling. Go look at the official numbers. Just type in uh birth effect increases in Belgrade. It's capital And uh so they've been through living hell. And so he kept testifying. He kept bringing out the documents and the witnesses of how Al Qaeda's CIA and it was all admitted. And and there was nothing they could do.

And he exposed all of this and so they murdered him. Um no, that's not the that's that's not like what happened. No. No. It's it's very strange because like there's an admit admittance in some way that like he did some horrible shit, right? I mean Alex can't It's it's papered over with uh we disagree on politics. Right. Which is that's a big we disagree on politics.

I don't see eye to eye on with him on everything. I d I mean a lot of people don't have eyes anymore because of him, so there we go. But yeah, that's the thing is it's fundamentally a pro uh uh slowbo position. It is one hundred percent. It's a slow pro position, yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah he's he's saying that the only reason anyone cares is because he wouldn't play ball with the globalists. Right.

And that makes him an anti globalist hero. Yes. Yep. D he's just like oh yeah, he's uh revealing that the KLA is run by the CIA, which is all the globalists, but like That w that was in ninety seven. Yep. What about before that? Wow. People have problems with this stuff that was going on before that. Well I mean, you're bringing up the past. Yes. You know, why dredge up the past whenever we need to be moving forward?

Um sure. I I think that Alex um he thinks he knows the past. I think he does. I I mean he's I I I you don't have to die on every hill. You know, like some hills you can just go like, but you can have that hill. Sure. You know, if the globalists really, really wanted Serbia, I'm I listen, I'm sorry to the Serbian people who are gonna suffer for it, but you know They can get rid of Milosevic. And if they wanted to kill him.

There'd been so much time. So many the four years prior that he was uh on trial and shit. If i like there's no reason for it. If you're gonna kill somebody, you kill him while you move him and they've moved him like thirty times. It would be very easy. Right? So Alex is very like I I can't describe it as any other thing. Like he's just pro Milosevic. And they murdered him in five years, four and a half years of the trial, in their custody for five years.

They couldn't convict him. They kept bringing in new judges because he was innocent. He was innocent of what they claimed. He was the lesser award. But was that what he was innocent of? But he was a sovereign leader trying to defend his people.

And for that he was kidnapped and murdered and his country radiated and now the South has been given to Al C I Ada and they're running that heroin right through Afghanistan, right through Iran, right into there today and it's all So this is an insane position for Alex to have. It is true that there was a replacement judge during the trial, but that isn't because the first one couldn't get the frame job done.

He retired due to ill health in February two thousand four and then died in June'cause he had a brain tumor. That'll happen. I suspect that this is all a case where Alex identifies with the Serb population because he sees them as the most white And because they're orthodox. Which is something that we've seen him show a lot of support for in more recent times when talking about Russia. For Alex, ethnic cleansing is a legitimate means of trying to defend a country if the circumstances are right.

Him yelling about how like Molozevich is innocent of what he's been uh buddy. Yeah, it is it is really interesting in the context like looking back. You know, there's so many times we look back and we're like, see, this would never be compatible with what he's saying today. But this is very clearly like oh yeah This is the guy. This is the guy we're talking about today. This guy right here being like

What's the little ethnic cleansing between friends? Yeah. Yeah. He just he puts on a much different face in two thousand six around it than he does now. And it's it is wild to think that like when you're listening to this in 2006, you're listening to it going like, what a crazy take from this wild guy, and not going like, if I stop and think about what he's saying, it is that ethnic cleansing is a defense.

Well, if you have to defend your population. Right. Your people. That's that's no. No good. No good. So what makes this particularly insane is that later in his career, Alex would begin interviewing doctor Francis Boyle as an expert on bioweapons, and a large part of his credibility was based on his involvement in the prosecution of Milosevic. If you go back and read interviews Boyle did, he was real clear.

Quote, it was Milosevic exploiting nationalism and ethnicity and religion to accomplish his objective of Greater Serbia. Just like Hitler wanted Liebenstrom to the east, Milosevic wanted Liebenstrom to the west. He was using all that and exploiting it. Yeah. One concern that I'm getting when I listen back to this, and I think it's pretty easy to put this in its proper place. Yeah. Uh

With what you were saying of like this is the guy. This is Yeah, this is the guy. But one thing I'm concerned about is that I don't know if he knows the difference between Bosnia and Kosovo. He seems to be conflating those situations. with the talking about the Time magazine cover, talking about um the KLA, I think it's all one jumbled mess to him. Yeah, I mean I suppose when you say like I don't he doesn't know which

Is which. I imagine if you asked him to draw on a map what either what any of it looked like or even like Just a just a couple of circles for relative size or or relative population or like who's where or where from he had have he would have no idea about any of it. Um he might have in two thousand six. That's possible. I I feel like um the news sources that he was pulling from often had more graphics like in the newspaper. Yeah, you're right. It'd be helpful as opposed to now.

Sh shit in memes doesn't really help you. Doesn't doesn't at le it doesn't even have geography, the memes. Yeah. So I thought um holy shit, first of all, Milosevich is dead. Yeah. Second of all, Alex is coming in with this hot take. And I thought, well the rest of the show is gonna probably involve that. And it doesn't really.

I mean but what a wild world. Yeah. What a wild world. Yeah. People just believe weird shit. He doesn't spend that much time, uh all in all, talking about it. It's just case closed. He was poisoned. It was murdered. The globalists did it.

Um and he'd just take some calls. Did you read Saturday's edition of the Un American Snakesman? No I didn't. Okay, there's a very interesting article in there. Uh anti Bush sermon sparks r mixed reaction among congregations. The Unitarian Minister Davidson Lohr of the first Unitarian uh Universalist Church gave a sermon on Sunday, September twelfth. And in the sermon he said that the Bush administration

orchestrated the September eleventh attacks to fulfill its plan to establish a new world order. Yeah, I uh I have uh a friend who who knows the the pastor of that church. And uh I know for a fact that he has been given my videos I I'm not too there on horn, it just shows what giving somebody videos did. And uh and I'm not attributing all you know, all of uh

you know, all of it to us. But I didn't see that article, but I knew that he had been giving speeches to that effect and saying we're about to go into martial law and then a s minority of his uh Of his flock did not like it. So it's unsurprising that Alex is taking credit for waking up this pastor. Yeah. You know, he hears a story and he's like, You know what? That I doubt That was totally me. It was obviously me. I don't know what you're talking about, but it was me.

This story is about a guy named Davidson Lohr, who was a pastor at a Unitarian Universalist Church. One day he read the book Confessions of an Economic Hitman and he decided he was sick of the bullshit and delivered a sermon that was mostly about economic policies carried out by world powers against developing countries. The text of the sermon is available on the church's website, but when I read it, I was surprised that there wasn't any talk about nine eleven.

When I got to the end, I did notice this footnote. Quote When I originally delivered this sermon on the twelfth of february two thousand six, I had added a section on nine eleven, expressing my belief that agencies of our own government had orchestrated the attacks of nine eleven. But that suggestion was and is so shocking, so repulsive, that it would take a very convincing exposition to make it at all persuasive. And I didn't do that.

It was a sloppy and slapdash edition that I shouldn't have tacked on, sure. As several members of my church were quick to point out. During the next two weeks I removed that section and rewrote it pretty much from scratch, creating a standalone essay. Yeah. That essay, however, is not a sermon, not about religion, and I am not comfortable having it on our church's website.

So yeah, that's an interesting footnote. That is that is a big footnote. Yeah. That's more of a regular note. That deserves its own note. You don't need to be the foot of anything. I think I'm gonna start to lose a little bit of confidence in my pastor. Yeah. If he's like, Yeah, that whole sermon that I did about nine eleven, it was rushed. Yeah. It was sloppy, it was offensive, and not religious.

Uh but I did do it. I did deliver that s that sermon. I'm willing to deliver a sermon that is sloppy. Yeah. There's something to be said about just flat out honesty. I'll give'em that. Uh I mean the bar is low, but a lot of people would just Try and scrub it from the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I imagine, however, that uh

My take on that moving forward would would be this guy is uh he's got it in the pocket. You know what I mean? Like at any point in time he might just pull out nine eleven from the pocket. I think I think my take on it would be from now on this guy is an editor. I this k this his sermons are gonna get a once over before he gets up there. That would be a wise move. Because this shooting from the hip no good. Yeah, it leads to these kinds of footnotes. No good.

But uh it does seem like uh Davidson realized that what he was doing was inappropriate. Yeah. He says that the original text of his speech is available on another website, but it doesn't link to it and the old s uh the site itself is an old message board that's no longer online. Yeah. So I was poking around and I couldn't find the original

uh speech. But he made it he got past it. Mm. Good for him. The internet's tough. I think from uh there's some indications that I have found that I think that he he uh he got sick with the woke stuff. The Unitarian Universalist preacher got tired of the woke stuff. What a was uh supporting Trump in twenty twenty four. So

I I mean, listen, if Unitarianism can get you to Trump, you're fucked. You're fucked. That's just that everybody should just reevaluate their relationship with Christianity. If even a Unitarian pastor will be like Sooner or later God's gonna want me to do this. Yeah, maybe you didn't mean some of that stuff you were saying before.

So Alex has a guest in the second hour. Yeah. And it is Dull. Yeah. It is Big Jim Tucker from the American Free Press. Sure. Uh because Bilderberg is coming up. Sure. And so Alex is trying to start the Bilderberg season. Right. Uh, but unfortunately they don't really know anything.

Uh Jim, I know that you don't have any feelers uh or or or your the lines you've got out there haven't gotten triggered on exactly where Bilderberg is gonna be this year, but Give us any ideas you've got and then for those that don't know why is Bilderberg important and kinda uh tell us uh what their agenda is and uh w what they're up to. Well we haven't located them

Yet and sometimes it gets to be very briefsmanship and I stayed nervous as a stuff it in church till we do nail them. So Bilderberg was in Ottawa in two thousand six and if Jim had just waited a little while he could have read announcements about it in the paper. I understand that part of the game here is pretending that this is a secret meeting that they try to pull off without the Nazi press knowing where they're gonna be, but that's a little bit silly.

Interestingly, this year, uh, this is the one where uh it's in Canada and Alex ends up going to bullhorn the rich people. Right. And he gets stopped at the border and detained because he has too much pornography. Oh my god. And then that uh ended up in Endgame. So yeah, this is uh That'll happen. At this point though, they know nothing. What a wild you know, sometimes People can just move on from stuff.

When it's like, man, this dude said that Slobodan Milosevic was pretty much okay. And then we're just gonna be like, eh, Bilderberg's scary. What are you talking about? Right, right. How are you again? Oh man. Bilderberg, eviler than you can possibly imagine. Totally. Slowbo got a bad rap. I think they can both be evil.

I think you could I don't think you need to take sides. They can both have uh negative uh effects. Yes. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and losing sight of uh that is a little bit strange. You i i it you don't have to Be so contrarian that you're like trying to rehab the image of Slobodon Milosevic because he also doesn't like the world order that you oppose.

You don't have to do that. You know, I was thinking about that and it is it is that kind of like There is a place in our society that we've allowed for somebody to imagine themselves to be like strictly intellectually talking about this. There are reasons to defend slobodomilovs, that kind of thing. And there really are. Well, I think I think that there's one you could come up with that Alex should use. Sure. And that is just a flat out rejection of international law.

Sure. The idea that The Hague and international courts have any jurisdiction that I could see him making that argument. But defending Milosevic based on like his actions weren't that bad or he had the right to do it. You just are getting yourself in a position where there's nothing you

should be offended by anybody doing. Yeah, totally. No, like you can be against the Iraq war, but also whenever they grabbed uh fucking Saddam, you're like, hey man, you did what you did, buddy. That's on you. You know? Like there are two things. Yeah. Yeah. It's uh it I I don't think he and I don't think he can handle that that kind of ambiguity. Yeah.

So, uh, Alex gets another call and it's from uh fella who's in college. Sure. And he doesn't like college because they don't like InfoWars. That's fair. Ian in New York, thanks for holding. Welcome. How you doing, Alex? Good. Uh yeah, I go to college and I take a international relations class and I take a Western Civilization class.

And you know, I've been listening for a couple of years and researching and stuff. And like especially my international relations class, like I stop sometimes to correct them on. certain things and that you know, just like last guessed uh about the Bilderbergs and stuff. And like all of a sudden he stops. He's like, You wanna stop with the conspiracies and all that? I'm like, Wait a second, it's not a conspiracy here.

Yeah, you go, there's an elite running things. I mean people at least five thousand years ago who were under a corrupt elite knew it was the elite. They're masters at saying, No, there's no elite. Yeah. You know, I'm paying good money for my education and here they're like not telling me You're paying to be taught a false paradigm. Yeah. I believe in college for engineering or mathematics or scientific things you're gonna need. I mean that's really a true science.

But uh so much of the stuff you're gonna learn uh y you know, going to their schools of economics or going to their international affairs schools, it's just teaching you the mindset to go be a cog and a fraud. Nice. Nice. Yeah, that's what I wanted um mentioned here, but uh keep up the good work and I look forward uh what you're gonna come out with next.

All right, I appreciate your call, sir, and I I can tell you're frustrated. I'm not saying it's a waste of time that you're going to school. You'll learn how the enemy brainwashes people and you'll pick up a lot while you're there. Yeah, you bring anything up. Hey the the government once did something bad. Shut up. It doesn't exist. Government is pure as the driven snow and godlike.

W government created the solar system. Government created the sun. Government breathed life into Adam. Government. Government. Government. Day one government. So it's weird how Alex is so against the idea that uh colleges teach people that the government created the solar system and all that.

Because that's not true. Colleges don't teach you that. They don't. But in Alex's ideal state, the schools would be teaching students that God did all that. Yes, that is true. So I think that he believes colleges teach you that the government is God. Right. And that's not true, but he wants to teach you that his God is God. Right. Huh. Yes.

Fucked up. Yeah. I remember being told when I was uh growing up uh that if you go to colleges that's where they teach you all the bad things. Sure. That's where they teach you all the stuff that is actually what God does. Uh and that's why if you're a woman who comes home from you have clearly been corrupted by the devil. Sure. Everybody knows. Oh, having ideas is no good. Yeah. No good. What Alex is talking about here, it's just a transparently dumb view of higher education.

But it's also one that's completely at odds with Alex's more recent take on college. Appar uh apparently here in two thousand six, the schools are there to brainwash you into thinking that the government's never done anything wrong, but now they're brainwashing centers to make you hate America and think our government has always been evil. So what's up? Yeah, I wonder who switched that. When w when did the curriculum change? And

Who taught them to change the curriculum? Must have been Obama, right? I mean, I mean we're in two thousand six. Right. Right? It had to have been Obama. Right, right, right. Michelle was trying to change the school lunches. Right. And as part of that They flipped the government stuff.

Man, you can just change curriculum that fast without anybody knowing, or you can change uh your lies. Yeah. Those are both possible. I could talk about this all day, but the basic gist of all this boils down to the uh truth that more widely available higher quality education Threatens the existence of the extreme right wing as a valid political party, and would severely cut into the audience space that Alex's advertisers depend on.

Education will always be evil to them and you should always do your own research, but the context and why and what they're doing is always a game. It doesn't matter. Yeah. And honestly, like There are bad teachers who are not engaged and just want to go through the material. Sure. And you might run into a bad teacher. But Most teachers, if you are like, Hey, I have a different idea about international relations. Yeah.

They will challenge you to try and prove your point. It's not a it's not a situation where like, hey, you're stupid. Yeah. You're bringing this dumb shit in. Yeah. It'll be like, okay, you have this idea. Now hit the book. Come up with a paper that shows that the globalists run everything. Yeah. You know, work on it. Figure it out. It changed my mind. Yeah. No, I mean it is it is impossible to um what?

If you've been around it long enough, you'll know that reading comprehension is kryptonite to far right belief systems. And the fundament of uh them existing is a a lack of it, or not a lack of it, a a like twisting of it. Yeah. Uh uh like You can have reading comprehension, but here's how it has been turned into something that actively works against you. To comprehend it correctly is then turned into you being like, ha ha, now that I've understood it.

What does it really say? Yeah. And no way there's no way to get around that. Yeah. No. Cause I can imagine in this international relations class. The guy's given a lecture. Teacher's given a lecture and this guy's like, What about a b group? Yeah. And the teacher accurately assesses, oh, this is signaling to some kind of a conspiracy belief. Yeah. So and let's not talk about this in class or or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then that response is interpreted by this guy as him saying that

the Bilderberg group existing is a conspiracy as opposed to like, no, you just believe a lot of dumb stuff that Alex has yelled about. Yeah. And I I I think that if you're in this class and the teacher is saying, Hey, this is conspiracy shit You should be inspired to be like, I'm gonna write the best paper fucking ever. Sure. I'm gonna show you all this stuff.

Um, and then uh the teacher will probably fail you because you've cited Paul Joseph Watson on release. No, I mean w the the best stuff that humanity has created I would say at least thirty percent of it was created just because some asshole was saying t was talking shit. Yep. That's like if somebody talked shit and then was like Well, you know what? I guess I'm gonna have to go change the world. Fuck you. And and that you know what? That I think gets to a point

Of why I think I'm really offended by Alex and InfoWars. It is a perversion and distortion of contrarianism. Like there is a really healthy contrarian impulse that has led us to so many great innovations. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it also like when it's just kind of knee-jerk and it's just Mosevich is good actually. Yeah. Like that kind of stuff is like

This is just it's it's you're you're in a bog. Yeah. You're just getting weighed down by all this mud of contrarianness. Yeah. It's not productive. Yeah, there's a Venn diagram that Alex exploits is like what looks like contrarianism can also be just a a at being an asshole. Mm-hmm. You know, but if you're if you have such a if you have good enough optic

you can pr p like conceal that you're just an asshole and make it look like you're a contrarian. Yeah. It's that it's the you know, that expression, a healthy distrust. Sure. The healthy part of it is so important. Yeah. Uh you y you can't just have a distrust and a a nothing works if it's just distrust. Yeah. Like the whole thing doesn't work. And that's a lot of what he embodies. There's no health to it, there's no depth to it.

So anyway, he has a guest on in the third hour, and uh I got nothing to say about this other than I think his the name of his organization is funny. I want to go to our guest who's with Repent America and he does great work. I am against abortion. So many liberals out there think that uh because I'm anti Bush that I that I follow other tenants of the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party's for the war, they're for the New World Order, they're bought and paid for, and you people think it's a tenant or a sacrament of being a quote progressive or a liberal to be for abortion and uh it's'cause you never had children. Or you've been involved in abortion and you can't admit to yourself what you've done and uh it is murder.

And it is horrible. And and and if you've done it you can be forgiven. Okay, you can forgive yourself, God can forgive you. But but hardening your heart And and and and doing this is is horrible. So we know that Alex has had a bunch of abortions. Yep. Uh that he has been involved in. So he's done a lot of murders. Yes. And God's forgiven him. And that's great. Totally fine. But If you just killed someone, like if I walked out on the street and I killed someone. Sure.

And then I repented and God forgave me, I would still be in fucking trouble. Yes, it does seem like there are very obvious differences between the two situations. Yeah, and Alex seems to have avoided any of the any of the real consequences that he wants to attach to the idea that this is murder, uh because his pretend absolution is possible uh just like that very easily. Yes. If you uh find it difficult to take responsibility for your actions in the real world, consider this.

Make up your own world where taking responsibility for your actions actually costs you nothing. Right. Yeah. And you can do that. And then blame everybody else and you could say they should be in jail. That is a should be like, okay. If you go to get a small business loan and you have like a plan for your business and it's just an explanation of how Alex's career works. They'd be like, Yeah, I guess that is probably pretty profitable, isn't it?

It d it d it I blaming everybody else seems like a very profitable proposition. Yeah. So also I would say that I do not uh support reproductive uh healthcare and access to it. because it's a tenet of progressivism or the Democratic Party. Yeah. I believe that it is a piece of offering greater freedom to more people. Yeah. And to withhold it as an option for people

is restrictive in a very serious way that disproportionately affects a certain group in society. You bet. And so to me, it has nothing to do with left or right or Democrat or Republican. It's It's a it's a tenant and pillar of freedom. Ostensibly, the idea is that the party is a reflection of the things I believe. Not the other way around. Right. Yeah. And so anybody thinking like, oh, Alex doesn't like Bush, so he must also be in favor of abortion. Yeah. Like that's silly to me.

I mean it's a it's it is it is like one of those things where it does feel like you're revealing your inability to view things by assuming other people view it like that. Like I assume People are a lot smarter than uh people behave. Like it there's there's plenty of different situations where you should assume that people are being very smart. And if you're assuming like nobody else understands how party politics works

Then you're an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. But hey, uh repent, America. That's a cool repent. I love that this the had this caller who's like, Man, school is no good. They don't like my bringing up InfoWars in a foreign relations class. Alright, we're gonna talk to the guy from Repent America It's like all right, man, just just stop. Just stop pretending. Yeah, it is it is crazy. He how long he got away with it is like

It does it does feel like when we go back to the past there has to have been a lot more willful looking away from what he was doing. I think there was a desperation on a lot of protest movement. um and anti war crowds. I think there was a desperation to believe that someone who was right wing coded uh was on their side. Yep. And I think that uh a lot of people look

It it's what you're saying. It's a willful looking the other way about some pretty clear signs of like this guy is not on the level. This guy I mean I can't be I can't imagine being at some sort of like Hey, uh, we're gonna get our platform together. Here's our lefty politics. We've got this guy, we got this guy. This guy still likes Slobodon Milosevic, so I guess we're allowing him in here. But I Sure. But the thing is

I don't think he can maintain that like Slobodon's not that bad position. Like I think he has to give that up pretty quick because It's not something I associate with later InfoWars. Yeah. Yeah. I believe I've heard him talk about Milosevic before in in negative ways. Yeah. So this seems to be like

an instinctual desire to create a conspiracy and a murder that he's gonna have to give up on. Yeah, it is it does feel almost yeah, it instinctual is just the right word for it. It feels like this is what he would do if nobody else was around, he'd be like, Slow but on it's fine. Just just out of nowhere. Okay. Okay, man. Yeah. And so there is a part of me that is interested in in continuing this thread through two thousand six. Yeah. To see like

Does he have to give this up quick? Ooh, is this our new our new investigation is the Slowbo watch. I'm kind of curious about that. So I may stick around in the past for some of that, but I will get back to the present also. Sure. Um but yeah, I was uh I was shocked. I'd forgotten that this was

The random date that you picked was only a couple days before Milosevic died. Wild. Are uh how are how are Saddam's kids doing? Are they still uh are they still They never existed. They were wax dummies, I believe. I feel like I would remember if I ever had a position as crazy as listen, I disagree with Slowbo. But Yeah, so we'll check in on that and uh Alex's uh more present takes on uh the uh the Epstein stuff and all that, but uh until then.

We have a website. Indeed, we do. It's Knowledgefight.com. Yep. We'll be back. But until then, I'm Neo. I'm Leo. I'm DZX Clark. I am the mysterious professor. Woo! Yeah! Woo! Yeah! Woo! And now here comes the sex robot. Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. Thanks for holding. Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller, I'm a huge fan. I love your work.