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Know Your Enemy

A leftist's guide to the conservative movement, one podcast episode at a time, with co-hosts Matthew Sitman and Sam Adler-Bell.

Episodes

UNLOCKED: Midnight in the Garden of American Heroes

Matt and Sam explain West Coast Straussianism, the school of thought behind one of the last acts of the Trump administration: its publication of the "1776 Report ," the Right's shabby response to the 1619 Project and blueprint for how the American Founding should be understood and taught. What are the origins of this school of conservative thought? Why are its adherents so enthusiastic about Trump? How do they understand the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and U.S. history? And wh...

Feb 11, 20211 hr 13 min

TEASER: L'Affaire (w/ John Ganz)

Subscribe at https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy to hear this and all our bonus content. Beloved KYE guest John Ganz ( Ep. 15: The Year the Clock Broke ) returns to explain how the Dreyfus Affair (and the French Third Republic) help us understand the Trumpian right, fascism, and the left's response to both.

Feb 06, 20213 min

Panic! In America (w/ the You're Wrong About podcast)

Matt and Sam are joined by special guests Sarah Marshall and Michael Hobbes of the You're Wrong About podcast to discuss moral panics—from tales of rampant Satanism in the late 1970s to the Stranger Danger wave in the 1980s and beyond—and their role in the rise of rightwing politics in America. What do such "Save the Children" stories tell us about the way the conservative mind conceives of morality and power? What do they tell us about American culture and politics? It all builds to a discussio...

Feb 01, 20211 hr 36 minEp. 28

TEASER: West Coast Straussians and the "1776 Report"

Subscribe at https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy to hear this and all our bonus content. Your hosts explain West Coast Straussianism, the school of conservative thought undergirding the " 1776 Report " — the Right's shabby response to the 1619 Project and a blueprint for how the American Founding should be understood and taught....

Jan 23, 20213 min

Did It Happen Here?

Matt and Sam take up the question that's dominating The Discourse: Is Donald Trump—and the movement he leads—fascist? To provide an answer, they turn to the rich historiography of fascism and some key essays on the subject published since Trump's election. Along the way, they break down different approaches and sets of criteria for evaluating fascism, consider the similarities—and differences—between the 1920s and '30s and today, and ponder whether or not the "fascist question" is the right one ...

Jan 17, 20211 hr 44 minEp. 27

TEASER: Storming the Capitol

Subscribe at https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy to hear this and all our bonus content. Matt and Sam analyze the Trumpist "siege" on the Capitol on our latest bonus episode.

Jan 07, 20215 min

Masks Off: The Right in 2020

Matt and Sam—in a rare, just-the-two-of-them episode—look back at what a bad year revealed about a number of bad people, especially the coterie of rightwing intellectuals and politicians who have downplayed the pandemic, exacerbated anxieties about the uprising against police violence, and played along with Donald Trump's conspiracy-fueled attempts to steal the presidential election. What holds these efforts together, and what do they say about the state of conservatism? It turns out that 2020 c...

Jan 04, 20211 hr 24 minEp. 26

TEASER: Trump the Dove? (w/ Stephen Wertheim)

Subscribe at https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy to hear this and all our bonus content. An excerpt from our latest bonus episode on Trump's 'non-interventionist militarism' and the future of American foreign policy — with Stephen Wertheim of the Quincy Institute.

Dec 26, 20203 min

Why the Supreme Court Sucks (w/ the 5-4 podcast)

In this much anticipated crossover event, Matt and Sam take aim at the conservative legal movement with Rhiannon, Michael, and Peter—the brilliant and funny team behind the 5-4 podcast , a Know Your Enemy favorite. For those who are not yet fans of the show, it's "a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks" that offers "a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court’s most important landmark cases, and an irreverent tour of all the ways in ...

Dec 21, 20201 hr 26 minEp. 25

TEASER: A Working Class GOP? (w/ Aaron Sibarium)

Subscribe at https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy to hear this and all our bonus content. An excerpt from our latest bonus episode on "the limits of realignment" with Aaron Sibarium of The Washington Free Beacon .

Dec 06, 20205 min

Talking Trump (w/ David Roth)

Who is Donald Trump? The great David Roth , co-owner of Defector Media and a columnist at the New Republic , joins Matt and Sam to answer that harrowing question. From Trump's odd lies about his baseball talents to creepy White House Christmas decorations, this conversation was the perfect opportunity to unpack the neuroses, self-protective measures, cruelty, humor, and sheer weirdness of a terrible president on his way out of office. Also: Sam finally gets to do his Melania "impression"! Source...

Nov 28, 20201 hr 24 minEp. 24

TEASER - What Happened? (w/ Eric Levitz and Dan Sherrell)

Subscribe at https://www.patreon.com/knowyourenemy to hear this and all our bonus content! An excerpt from our election recap bonus episode with New York magazine's Eric Levitz and Daniel Sherrell, director of the the #VoteTrumpOut campaign.

Nov 14, 20202 min

Suburban Woman (w/ Dorothy Fortenberry)

Matt and Sam are joined by Dorothy Fortenberry for a wide-ranging conversation about women and politics. Topics include growing up in Washington, D.C; her experiences writing women characters in Hollywood; why the left should take over existing institutions; the complicated Catholic motherhood of Amy Coney Barrett; and much, much more. For those not familiar with her work, Fortenberry is a writer and producer on Hulu’s award-winning adaptation of The Handmaid’s Tale , and her plays include Speci...

Oct 29, 20201 hr 27 minEp. 23

On the Road to Reaganland (w/ Rick Perlstein and Leon Neyfakh)

Matt and Sam talk to two esteemed guests, Rick Perlstein and Leon Neyfakh, about why U.S. politics took a right turn in the 1970s. “We organize discontent,” as one New Right activist put it—and they did. Fierce battles over desegregation, gay rights, abortion, and the meaning of America itself all paved the way for Ronald Reagan's smashing victory in 1980. Over four books and two decades, historian Rick Perlstein has chronicled the rise of movement conservatism in America, starting with its rene...

Oct 21, 20201 hr 18 minEp. 22

How to Be Depressed

We released this bonus episode on depression and politics in July, and it quickly became a favorite of our Patreon subscribers. A number of them asked us to make it available in front of the paywall so they could share it with friends and family who have experienced depression and other mental-health issues—so that's what we decided to do. Topics discussed include: Matt's review of George Scialabba's memoir about depression; how left and right understand moral desert; and the struggle to build a...

Oct 12, 20201 hr 7 min

Not Even Past (w/ Jamelle Bouie)

From the never-ending culture war over the New York Times 's 1619 Project to arguments about the Black Lives Matter protests to President Trump's promise to Make American Great Again, today's political conflicts reflect, to an extraordinary degree, disagreements over the meaning of American history. Jamelle Bouie's New York Times column is one of the places where these lively debates are most effectively narrated and clarified. Bouie joins Matt and Sam to help make sense of how history, historio...

Sep 14, 20201 hr 6 minEp. 21

Know Your Frenemies (w/ Samuel Moyn)

Matt and Sam welcome Yale historian Samuel Moyn to the show for a deep-dive into the Never Trump movement. Who are the Never Trumpers? How seriously should we take the heroic story they tell about themselves? Did they sink Bernie's campaign for the Democratic nomination? Have they reckoned with their role in paving the way for Trump? In trying to answer these questions the conversation moves from the baleful influence of Never Trumpers to a discussion of historical debates about over the rise of...

Aug 09, 20201 hr 27 minEp. 20

Pandemic Politics (w/ Marshall Steinbaum & Sarah Jones)

Matt and Sam are joined by two special guests, Sarah Jones and Marshall Steinbaum, who return to the show to take stock of where we're at: our failed response to the pandemic, the connections between the pandemic and the protests, and how all this might play out in November. The four of us range widely—but be warned, this is not the most inspiring conversation. Are there any reasons to be hopeful? Listen and find out. Sources Cited and Further Reading: Eric Levitz, " Coronavirus is Killing Our E...

Jul 08, 20201 hr 31 minEp. 19

Strange Gods and Strong Gods (w/ Tara Isabella Burton)

There's been no shortage of commentary on the rise of the "nones," those Americans who claim no religious affiliation, a trend especially notable among younger people. But that doesn't mean we live in a secular age. Matt and Sam talk to Tara Isabella Burton about her new book, Strange Rites: New Religions for a Godless World , and the way our search for meaning and the need for ritual has met our neoliberal economic order. What does this spiritual churn mean for our politics? Why do reactionary ...

Jun 08, 20201 hr 33 minEp. 18

KYE Extra: The Sad Truth (w/ Shuja Haider)

Matt and Sam are joined by writer and editor Shuja Haider to discuss a topic near and dear to all of our hearts: country music. We talk about country's conservative reputation, the problems with (and virtues of) Ken Burns's recent documentary about country music, and the humane politics that arise from acknowledging—as the best country songs do—our collective frailty. Plus, a bunch of great music recommendations for your quarantine listening. A playlist featuring every song we mention in the epi...

May 14, 20201 hr 32 min

Longtime Listener, First Time Caller (the Mailbag Episode)

Here it is—the mailbag episode. Recorded on 4/20 and celebrating a full year of Know Your Enemy, Matt and Sam answer listener questions about: conservatives hiding in plain sight, our favorite conservative novelists, a George W. Bush counterfactual, the right’s response to COVID-19, and—against our better judgment—some Bernie Sanders campaign postmortem. We received so many amazing questions for this and recorded tons of material. So much, in fact, that we decided to release another 25 minutes o...

May 04, 20201 hr 25 minEp. 17

The Windbag City (w/ Marshall Steinbaum)

Matt and Sam are finally joined by the show's longtime bête noire, Marshall Steinbaum, for a deep dive into the Chicago school of economics and the wreckage it's supported—from welcoming the birth defects caused by deregulating the pharmaceutical industry to justifying massive resistance to desegregation to being put in the service of Coronavirus truther-ism. Where did this iteration of libertarianism come from, intellectually and institutionally? Who are the key figures in the Chicago school? H...

Apr 18, 20201 hr 49 minEp. 16

KYE Extra: "Last Ounce of Courage"

Our rollicking conversation with Know Your Enemy Film Correspondent Jesse Brenneman is now out from behind the paywall! Be prepared: we dive into Darrel Campbell's 2012 war-on-Christmas fever dream Last Ounce of Courage , a deranged film that nevertheless offers real insight into the conservative mind. (If you really love freedom, you can watch the film here , before you listen. But it is not at all necessary.) Jesse is a seasoned radio producer and dear friend—and funny. He has his own new podc...

Apr 05, 20201 hr 34 min

The Year the Clock Broke (w/ John Ganz)

Matt and Sam talk to John Ganz about paleoconservatism, the Island of the Misfit Toys of the American right. Along the way we're introduced to David Duke, Pat Buchanan, Sam Francis, and others, and discuss their enduring influence on the Republican Party and conservative politics—both in 1992, when Buchanan made a failed run for president, and today, when the hopes of their movement seems to have been fulfilled in Donald Trump. Sources and Recommended Reading: John Ganz, The Year the Clock Broke...

Mar 15, 20201 hr 59 minEp. 15

Morbid Symptoms (w/ Ross Douthat)

Ross Douthat is that strangest of all creatures, a religious conservative with a New York Times column—a perch from which he pronounces on U.S. politics, the Catholic Church, and modern culture with style and intelligence, plus a dash of mordant pessimism. In other words, the perfect choice to be the first "enemy" to come on the show. He joins Matt and Sam to discuss his own conservatism, the American right in the Trump era, and his new book The Decadent Society: How We Became the Victims of Our...

Feb 05, 20201 hr 26 minEp. 14

What Happened to Norman? (w/ David Klion)

Making It is Norman Podhoretz's 1967 memoir about his journey from the working-class neighborhood of Brownsville, Brooklyn to his heady ascent in the New York literary scene of 1950s and '60s. It's also a fascinating psychological study of a man on the cusp of converting from Cold War liberalism to what came to be known as neoconservatism—a shift driven, at least in part, by the cool reception of this book. Making It proves a fascinating text through which to understand not just one conservative...

Jan 15, 20201 hr 44 minEp. 13

She's Got a Plan (w/ Rebecca Traister)

Matt and Sam talk to Rebecca Traister of New York magazine about sexism and electoral politics. How has patriarchy conditioned the political careers of politicians like Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren? How does the right mobilize anti-feminism to win? And how do conservative women like Sarah Palin use traditional womanhood and femininity to their advantage? Listen to find out! Traister is the author of Good and Mad: The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger. Further Reading: Rebecca Traister...

Nov 28, 20191 hr 29 minEp. 12

We Could Be Heroes (w/ Will Arbery)

Will Arbery's play "Heroes of the Fourth Turning"—about four conservative Catholic friends arguing under a night sky in Wyoming—feels like it was written to be discussed on Know Your Enemy. An ominous meditation on faith, conservatism, empathy, cruelty, and power, "Heroes" has ignited debate and garnered praise across the political spectrum—from First Things to the (failing) New York Times to Rod Dreher's blog at the American Conservative . Arbery was raised by conservative Catholic professors a...

Nov 11, 20192 hr 8 minEp. 11

Trump Country (w/ Sarah Jones)

Sarah Jones joins Matt and Sam to discuss the myth of "Trump Country" and the pitfalls of reporting on rural America, and to address the most important question of all: is Donald Trump the Antichrist? (Answer: Probably not.) Sarah's essay, "Scapegoat Country," appears in this month's special issue of Dissent on " Left Paths in Rural America ." Sarah is a staff writer for New York Magazine , where she covers inequality and national politics. Follow her on Twitter: @OneSarahJones Sources Cited: Sa...

Oct 29, 20191 hr 40 minEp. 10

KYE EXTRA: "Morning Hate" (w/ Hannah Gais)

UNPAYWALLED: Sam interviews journalist Hannah Gais about (1) the far right's ongoing efforts to infiltrate conservative media and (2) the self-victimizing grift of Quillette anti-anti-fascist Andy Ngo. Discussed: Hannah Gais, Leaked Emails Show How White Nationalists Have Infiltrated Conservative Media , Splinter Hannah Gais, The Making of Andy Ngo , Jewish Currents...

Oct 23, 201944 min
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