S2:E7 Who Knows?? Anyone?

All right. Welcome to yet another episode. I mean, I've, I've whoop. Come with kc. Come with kc. You are here. We're into Oh, you're,

you are who? Introduce

yourself. Come on. Having a good time with you is what I'm doing. There's nothing stuck about it. What I'm trying to do is say that we're on a certain episode. We are, however, we're well into, into season two at this.

Yeah. It doesn't even seem like it though. It doesn't really seem like it. No, we are, but it doesn't seem like it. Every week

has been something new, something inviting, something.

I have enjoyed these interviews that we're doing though, because when we do these interviews, it's bringing in a different. Aspect or mindset to what we know. Yeah. And I think it's fucking like paramount for us. It's paramount. It's paramount for us.

Expanding your vocabulary,

I love it. No. To bring on more individuals that get to bring on a different perspective or mindset. Yeah. Or whatever, to this whole entire concept that we're doing. Mm-hmm. I think it's funny though that we've noticed that more people listen to. Chatter than our guests, but I implore you to listen to these interviews. They are super important. We know we're cool, we know we're fun, we know we're funny, but these things we know that

are really important. But there's something to that. It's be, it's because you and I are so informal, so conversational. Yeah. We follow off each other well. We, we bring in people that don't really know us,

our dynamic or how we flow, but we've, we've handled it

fairly well. No, I think it's been great. They, all of our guests have been fantastic. Mm-hmm. and just talking to us and hanging out and having a good time. And we have, and I

mean, I've learned, yeah, I've, I've learned a lot. And that's the other thing, right? Like. We talk with these people, we vibe with these people and we're like, Hey, we love what we discussed today, but we already know that there's so much more that you can give us. Yes. And so we have been planning with the people that we j with, we've been planning like future episodes. Mm-hmm. and so we, we do it. Eventually have even more coming with y'all or to y'all.

well, we have more coming with us. I know.

I don't do that on purpose, Sure. I really don't. That wasn't planned. Not at all. So this episode, and really what I this was episode was my idea. You didn't wanna keep talking about the sex party, you're like, We're done here. We're talking about the sex party. We kind of, we're talking about do we

like, do we like how that happens? By the way, you're just like, Hey, as I twiddle my necklace, by the way,

daddy, please. Here's what we're talking about, No we did decide you wanna talk.

That week went over for exactly

like on the sex party experience. Yeah, because it was so eye-opening for me to. Understand, like, yeah, we went to the sex party, whatever. I didn't go to the sex party to play. I didn't go to the sex party to do all this shit. I went there for the experience and, and also to gain some insight on how we can continue to evolve as a couple. Yeah. And what is the safest in practice or the safest, I'm sorry, the safest.

is that the safest way to open up as a couple is to go to a sex party. No, it was

everything beforehand. it was everything beforehand. It was It was still a moment for us that that was, that was altering.

It sounds like what you're trying to say is that all of the, the workshopping that we did, yes. A hundred percent was the preparation. Mm-hmm. for any couple. to, to then explore. To explore whether that be within your own relationship. Mm-hmm. or, or in with relationships with other people.

Yeah, because Thank you. That's exactly what I was gonna say. It's like what we are gonna be talking about on this episode. It's not just bringing a partner in. You can use these practices with your own partner. Yeah, of course you can solo, all of this can be done solo. This

like, yeah. Sense. Is this like giving yourself permission? Yeah. To experience pleasure.

I think so in all honesty, like once people understand like the scenarios that we're discussing, yes, you can also then turn it to your own self-pleasure because we have to like give ourself permission sometimes to, oh yeah, let go. Yeah. That's something

that a lot of people don't understand the concept of is giving yourself. Permission. Mm-hmm. they're always worried about like, how's my partner's pleasure? Are they going to do this? Mm-hmm. am I gonna be able to get whatever it is? And they don't often think about like, have I allowed myself permission to experience pleasure with this person? It doesn't matter if you're in a relationship of weeks, months, years, or whatever.

And I love that you say that, but I wa I, I was also still thinking like within one self, like there are aspects of me giving myself pleasure. That was a concept. I had not explored until we even became more sexually involved. And I mean, I'll be transparent. One of those was even like actively like fingering myself. Yeah. That was something that I never did. There was no

point. Do you mean like hearing sex together or do you mean like by

yourself? No, solo. That's what I'm saying. So no imagination. Well, it's solo play is masturbation. I'm, well, not always, technically. Okay, so let's what, I mean, let's recap what you're saying. Yeah, no, what I, what I mean is like the giving permission, right? Yeah. I'm going back to that. I'm giving myself permission to explore with myself mm-hmm. in a way that I normally would not have done. Maybe it's like insecurities with myself or like feeling silly sometimes.

I'm going to go ahead and just admittedly, you're, you're the aha moment in that one. That's fair. I'm fine. But, but let's like clarify on that because we went to this party with different goals in mind. True. My goal with doing it is releasing empathy. Mm-hmm. like that was, yeah,

because our big thing was impact play. Yeah. So if you heard her last episode, you already know that what you were going in there

for. Right. And I'll, and I'll talked about that with solo or with anything else. Mm-hmm. it's releasing empathy. Mm-hmm. that was my goal. And that was achieved because it's the ability to allow myself to experience pleasure and not constantly worry about like, well, how's my partner doing? Mm-hmm. how are they feeling? Are they okay? Yeah. Are they having. is this good for them? You know, we've talked about this before, whenever we've had sex and it's been like you on top. Mm-hmm.

gonna do, so you did, so you did have a takeaway then in a way that you didn't expect? No, I mean, I guess it is a way question true. That is, that's very true. That's very true. So to go back to the question is, so I,

no. Yeah. So there was nothing like on permission of pleasure and solo play Yeah. Or something that I do now with Solo that has changed. But in terms of releasing empathy mm-hmm. and allowing myself to experience pleasure throughout our experience together. Yeah, that definitely changed.

So, this is just random, I'm gonna ask anyways. If y'all again, have been listened to the podcast, we have just recently dived into our own personal experience between a do dom and sub Yeah. Lifestyle. It's been enjoyable, honestly. I've had a lot of fun with it, but I just received my, like, first set of spankings and I wanna know how you felt about it, cuz I haven't even

asked. Oh no, I felt great. So let me, let's give them a little bit more information. Sure. So Carrie comes to me a few weeks ago and I was like, Hey, listen, I would like to start experiencing and playing around with this like DS lifestyle. I, I want to be a submissive. So I said, okay. I didn't know much about being a dom. I'm still constantly learning, which is probably the biggest thing for me. I mean, we both are.

We both are Yeah, for sure. Because I like did something earlier at lunch today and I was like, oh shit, I wasn't supposed to do that but like, it's almost like kind of like breaking these habits a little bit. Yeah. But yeah, continue.

And so we dive into it and so I'm starting to learn and all this kinda stuff. And so, we had set, one of the things that we came up with, that I came up with, yeah. That Carrie needed to do was assign or bring to me weekly, monthly, and then long-term. And then I kind of came back with tasks in order to achieve those goals. Things that I was going to monitor, things that she had to report to me. Mm-hmm. certain ways to, to move forward in this, in like a productive manner for the both of us.

over these. Yes. So goals that I have or whatever.

Yeah. And so we came back on and on,

what was

this? Yesterday? Yeah, yesterday. And found out that, that there was something that had occurred that

I did not do, that I said I was going to, that was a goal of mine. She said there was a punishment there was for that. So in that punishment and like, did you feel empathy?

How'd it feel? It was, it was agreed upon. It was, again, we go back to this whole thing of consent. Yeah. It's consensual and it's enthusiastic consent. Mm-hmm. am I gonna check on you? Am I gonna provide Yeah. Aftercare, yes. But in that moment, I am of the understanding. Mm-hmm. we have made an agreement and it's something that we're both.

In agreeance too. But it is though, and we set that out

beforehand. It was something we were both enthusiastically given consent for. Mm-hmm. no. At that point, I mean,

it still hurt.

good. It's supposed to, it's a punishment. Yeah. It's, it's like one of our friends told us, and I, I, at one point we're gonna, we're gonna talk about her more, but had said, I am going to cause you pain. Mm-hmm. but I am not going to. Yeah, there's a big difference between supplying pain to someone and harming someone

because me as the receiver, It hurt. Yeah. I enjoyed it. you know, but now I'm also gonna make sure I don't not do that again. But it's kind of the point of it and, and like even as simple as. What we're doing right now, and, and we're gonna continue to explore this together. And it doesn't have to be so like, structured. It's what we want. Yeah. And that's kind of why we're bringing all this into this episode today, is you can create any reality that you want. Yeah. With your partner.

So then explain that more, Carrie, what do you mean by a scene? Yeah,

so I mean, a sexual act. Okay. I, yeah, a sexual act. So not

like an improvisational scene where where we're role. But you mean like we're going to create something around a sexual act?

Yeah. You can't, if, if you are individuals that are great at roleplaying I like applaud you one and two, like do this I'm not good at roleplaying, unfortunately. I'm not like quick on my toes like that, but, so I gotta enroll you some improv classes. Dude, I need to because I kind of suck at it. What are

you doing here? Play in the bedroom.

I want to exactly like I wanna be better at creating characters in the bedroom with my partners. And, and again, if you are great at that, take this and fucking run with it. But if you're not good at it, don't think of this as this like role playing concept that now you're Bob the builder. And you This is Bob the builder. I don't know this where my brain went, but, and then like, Bob's coming in and he's constructing And where are these helpless? Wait, don't go

back. Wait, no, Hold on a second. It's, it sounds like you have above the builder fantasy.

I don't, maybe like a, like a

Is there another builder that you

fantasize about? I think it's like the man, like the, oh, I'm a man. You know? Maybe that's where I got like Bob, the builder. But I'm just saying like, you're able to fuck off. And he's done. We just need to end the episode. You can't get on the builder I'm just saying. Find Doy floor. I don't care. Like

I think you have a fantasy around kids shows.

I really don't. I really don't. I swear we're gonna get like door pledges coming up next. Let me find your clues, baby I'll leave your clues all over the house. Oh, no, that's actually a bad idea. No, so I'm serious though. Like, so creating a scene doesn't have to be a improv fantasy. That's not what I'm talking about. Yeah. But what I'm saying is you can go into a sexual act with yourself. with your partner or with multiple partners and sit down beforehand and discuss it.

it. Yeah. It's something that people don't really think about doing because a lot of, I never thought about doing well. A lot of times people think about, you know, having, having sex with someone and they're rushing into it. They're not taking the time, especially whenever it comes to more kinky stuff. Yeah, they're not taking the time to sit down and talk. Maybe they've connected, maybe they're connecting on an emotional level, and now they're like, now we're gonna have sex.

going over an entire list that's called

what? Oh, that's the R B D S M. How do you

remember this stuff? I don't, I don't fucking understand how you remember this stuff. It blows my goddamn

mind as I'm a lifelong student. It's my job. Can

you pull it? Can you pull it up though? Yeah, sure. Let's go over it. So, when we were at this party, that was one of our biggest takeaways was this Rrb, d s whatever, that he's going to go over. But it is the most beautiful way to lay out a scene with anybody. Absolutely anybody, because if you go over this checklist, and mind you going over this checklist doesn't have to feel like you're at school.

going. I'm gonna go get it. come on. Step out. I'm

gonna go find this fucking thing. No, and I will keep talking while you do that. But what, what we're trying to set up for any couple is the understanding that. You can go about it and just be like, ball to the wall. Free Nelly. Do whatever the fuck you want. And I really hope that that works for you. But unfortunate, not unfortunately, but fortunately for us, we learned that that didn't work and we needed something more concrete. We needed something slightly, slightly more structured.

Im profitable means Oh, I gotta catch my breath. All right.

Yeah, you were doing some running. Oh, look, there it's, yeah, there's our whole diagram

So, all right. So we're gonna, we're gonna go through R B D S mpa. Yes. And this is a gold bar that we had sitting down from our, from the sex party that we attended. Yes. So these are questions that you can go over whenever you're talking with your partner. your potential partners, all of that stuff. So the first one's gonna be your relationship. Yes. So talking about your current relationship status.

Yes. Single. Not partnered. Yes. Anything relation, your relationship status could even be, I'm not available. Yeah. It doesn't have to be this like overstructured

concept. Just, well, for example, like whenever we were there, they, one of the things they had discussed was, okay, I'm here, I am partnered. This is my, yeah, my wife, my girlfriend, whoever. Mm-hmm. We've been together for this long and we are monogamous. Yes, we are monogamous. We are poly. Mm-hmm. we play separately. Together. We're just observers. Yeah. We're just, yeah. We're just observers. Yeah. What

was the, I'm sorry. I cannot think of the term for it. Exhibitionist. Thank you. Thank you. I was like a voer voer. That was his, that's what, that's what it. We are voyeurs.

So you find out, like you define that term. Mm-hmm. to the person. Next would be your boundaries. So this is where you can go over your Yes. No, maybe list. Mm-hmm. with people and your Yes. No, maybe list can. Evolve based upon the people you're around.

That's what I'm saying, that your Yes no maybe can evolve to just the scenario or the act that's going to happen. Doesn't have to be this huge blanket. Yes. No. Forever. I'm saying in this scene that we are creating, yeah, this is my, yes, no, maybe. Yeah, like it's very

personal. Here are the things you can do. Here are the things that we might be able to discuss. And then here is the hard notes. Yes. And those

are, and those again, can be interchangeable to the scene that you're creating.

So coming up next, we would have our desires. Mm-hmm. Now this can not only just be like, I want certain things to happen. Mm-hmm. it can also be here's what I want to achieve. Yeah. From doing this, I hope to gain these things. So that was like what with us? Mm-hmm. I had hoped to gain the release of empathy through being coached on impact

play. Yeah. Yeah. I. Honestly, that night I gained to receive it. I had no idea what it impact play was going to look like. And so that was my hope for that scene is to receive it in a way that it would be best for you and I, yeah. You know? Yeah. It

was fun. Mm-hmm. what next? So next step we have mm-hmm. So this is where you start, where you go into your STIs. Yeah. Anybody listening that disagree? Our show's not for you. whenever it comes to disclosing your health status in any sort of relationship, whether it be short-term, long-term, or anything is very, very, very important. It is because everybody that your with deserves to know. Mm-hmm. where your status is at and what their status

is at. And I also think that every person, if you are looking to be open, you need to educate yourself on what. These STIs can mean Yeah. What it means to be in a dormant phase or an inactive mm-hmm. phase, what it means to be active. Yeah. And so, and, and what that means as the receiver.

And we can also put that into, we recently had been had some feedback to where we had been talked about in a previous. Being clean versus dirty and mm-hmm. so we were correct on that in a very good like, lighthearted way.

Yeah. Please correct us. We don't, we're not ever upset by

that. We have the feedback a hundred percent. So whenever you're talking about it and you're talking to someone, it's less talking to them. Are they clean? Are they dirty? Those are not appropriate terms for any of this. Yeah. but to be like, do you have any positive or negative status in your life? Mm-hmm. are you, you know, HSV positive? Are you HSV negative? Do you, are there anything that I should know about? Mm-hmm. what? Like, what's going on?

Because educating yourself through this will also allow you the opportunity to say yes. let's move forward or no, I'm actually okay. Yeah, and that's your right as the receiver and that's also your right as the giver. Mm-hmm. So we just strongly encourage all parties to understand what these mean and what these mean together, and to be very open and honest about those. Yeah.

Next up would be meaning, what's the meaning behind Yeah. What are you trying, what you're trying to achieve. Mm-hmm. what's the, like, what are these purposes? Yeah. What's the goal? What's the goal at hand? What does this mean to you? Mm-hmm. that's a good one. There's also pregnancy. This one's not always Yeah.

Especially if you're doing like fluid swap and, and all of that. Yeah. You're doing like fluid

bonding and you have Oh, thank you. You're welcome. Yeah. And you have people that are there and it's, or you're talking about penetration plate and you're going, well actually I'm trying to get

pregnant and I don't want you to impregnate

me I don't want you to accidentally impregnate, impregnate me. Stay away from any of that type of person, but, but I also

feel like that can go both sides for like males to say like, I'm snipped, I'm not snipped. So that's

something that like we disclosed to people is like, Hey, I've had a vasectomy. Yeah. So. It's a, there's a no chance of me getting, of getting anybody pregnant. Yeah. So it's just again, there and then, yeah, go ahead. Yeah. It's important to disclose these things to people because, and

not feel embarrassed about disclosing it either. I'm so sorry. Yeah, I know I interrupt. I'm very excited.

You are, you're on it today and I love it. I know. I'm sorry, don't spank me, but by close, we'll talk later by disclosing these things. Yeah. You create a comfortable environment. The last one that we'll talk about on the list is the A of it all After. I love aftercare this. Yeah, you should. And I really

love aftercare. Not enough people, they don't get it perform care. Don't, they don't get it. As long as you don't get it. I'm so sorry. I don't wanna like downplay it, but after aftercare is probably my, like, biggest thing. Yeah, it is. Is some form of aftercare because it's, it's like, It's the end of the story. It's the last chapter of the book. Mm-hmm. like it's important and it, and it may, and it puts relevance to all the experiences that can be had through a play, is the aftercare. Yeah.

I mean, think about like this, what, what do we see stereotypically, right? Mm-hmm. if we're looking at the. Very, very obscure landscape. That is popular media. And we see sex acts on tv, something and then it ends and they cut to the next scene. Yeah. And or it's, or if they

show this like hand gets up. Yeah. Guy gets up, that's it. We pull his pants up and the girl lays in bed and these, you know. All right. Yeah. And, and, but that's true. There is no like, real understanding of what aftercare actually is. Right? And we've

talked about it before. We know that at this point, aftercare is, what do you do after the act is over? Mm-hmm. after the scene ends and you have a person there. Are y'all cuddling? Mm-hmm. Are, are you offering them like sweets, like candy? Are you giving words of affirmation? Are you stroking complaining with their hair? Yeah. Are you

all. Tools. Yeah. All great

tools. So it's taking the time afterwards to really ground you back to reality, and especially if you're doing something like Impact Player mm-hmm. something that's more invigorating in

terms Yeah. Just extravagant or testing in the nervous system out. Yeah. Or yes, a hun Yes. Yes. We need, we need a whole fucking episode on that. In all honesty, but, but I love that you talk about that, like the say you have. Three people. We're just gonna, we're just gonna say three for now because that's a little bit easier. But and we all. Something that we have not done before, and then we can all sit down there together and have that like grounding moment.

Sure. Yeah, absolutely. So the group that I was placed in, Was four men. Yeah. And one woman. And so by immediate thought was, all right, we're supposed to create a scene. But whenever I think of scene, I think of improv. Mm-hmm. So I was like, all right, here's the scene that we're gonna do. I took over immediately very comfortable in doing that. And that was to say, I'm playing the director of a movie. Yeah. Our main star, mm-hmm. Actress here is going to be up for the lead role.

Yeah. And see which one exactly put on your best moves. Which one gains her affection the fastest. So

it started off with me being like, all right, you come here. Mm-hmm. and I. For me, I, I always enjoy like a little bit of that dominant role. Yeah. So I'm like, this is your mark. You'll stand not there.

Over here. No. I said here, this is the.

It. Like put somebody in their and said, all right. Mm-hmm. now you're do go ahead and start. Which

that honestly probably helped them get a little bit into character too. Yeah. It helped everybody

feel a little bit more relaxed. Yeah. To be like, ha, this is fun. Like, we're all laughing about it. So we'd start there and had them do it, and then, so I'd abruptly stop them in the middle of something. Mm-hmm. on purpose. Pull them away, grab somebody else, pull them in and say all your turn. And so it evolved from there into being like, all right, you know what? I need to see how this looks if we have some co-leads mm-hmm. And so I pulled all them at one time and was like, bet

she loved that you were the best director for her Oh, I knew I was. Please direct me, sir, at any given time. This is amazing. So, but it was fun and I remember like hearing it and I like, I hear you in the background and I hear y'all talking, but then I look over and there's three men like swooning all over her, like grabbing her and touching. She was loving it too. She was loving it.

it, but it worked. Full transparency. I was like, what am I supposed to do? Yeah, okay. I hear scene and I think theater. So yeah, we're gonna improv some shit and we're gonna play characters.

Yeah. But you did it really well and you would tell she was having a good time. Oh yeah. And had this not been a practice, I guarantee you 10 minutes later I would've, would've looked over and then she was naked and they're all over her and all the guys, and you're like still recording. And it would've been this thing, like it felt real. But it, it set the scene for sexual activity to happen and it not feels so fucking

awkward. Yes. It not feel like, what am I supposed to do next? Oh, we're

just supposed to go do I, I just go, oh, so I just take my top off? No. Set ease into this up. Ease into it. Slow down and allow the moment to happen. And if you can, again, sit with your partner or partners and discuss. This type of scene.

Yeah. We progress it. Mm-hmm. and we, we've said it plenty already. We start off with the discussion about boundaries and everything else. Mm-hmm. And once everyone's comfortable there, we move on to the next thing. Mm-hmm. about, you know, talking about consent, what that means, and the ability to say no comfortably mm-hmm. and we can move into the actual scene work itself of being like, here's what we're gonna do next. Yeah. Like, let's, let's go. And, and it just creates comfort.

Because that's what we're looking for. We're not looking to ever feel uncomfortable. We're not ever looking to feel like, I don't want this to happen. And, and, and if that does, please understand that that's okay. And, and at any given point, and the one thing that I will say that wasn't in the like list is maybe y'all all coming together and, and creating a safe word for anyone to use at any given time. Yeah.

Agreed upon safe words clearly,

and agreed upon safe words. Sit down all together and say we are creating this scene together. I've been in the scene for 15 minutes. I'm actually not feeling comfortable. I, I'm gonna go ahead and say this word. And then that word is then where everyone kind of pauses and stops and talks and discusses and Sure. Because,

and you can have multiple safe words. That safe word might be something that just allows the groups to know that. moving outwards. Like, cause you don't, you don't, there could be

multiple people and you're like, I'm a bounce.

Yeah. You don't always wanna interrupt things that are going on. Yeah. And be like, I'm need a moment. Yeah. But you can't. Everyone look at

me. I'm

not ok. But you can work a word into it that allows everybody to know that you are stepping out. Everyone continue. You all have fun. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna go step over here for a while.

Yeah. And all that's okay. Like all of that's okay. Well, I mean, this

is what we said the other day, right? Is that we're, there's no rules. Mm-hmm. there's not a rule book to this. What there is is. Guides that can help you feel safe, feel comfortable, and do things in a way that is gonna allow everybody to have a good time. Yeah. And know when to feel like they're being assaulted.

Yes. And you know, and going into the sex party, I never, never, ever once felt like I was going to be assaulted. I'm gonna be very, very strict with that. Or clear, I'm sorry. But to know that you have that safety net or to know.

Yeah. You know, we have another part to this. We're not gonna go into it fully cuz neither of us have a full grasp of No I, these practices. That's fair. And I would never wanna start promoting something and tell, like, teaching people about it without having a full grasp of it on our, on our own. Yeah. We'll,

we'll have a guest on soon that will explain this in great detail

for us. We'll talk more about consent. Yes. And a and a very in-depth level. But we do wanna talk. is asking and accepting. Mm-hmm. that more being like whenever I'm asking you for something or asking to do something specifically to you mm-hmm. making it clear that I don't want to do this because it's going to, or feeling safe and asking you to do it because, or letting it happen to you because it's for my pleasure. Mm-hmm. like, let's clarify. Let's kind of clear that.

to be chopped up. Yeah. Break a little bit up. I know what you're saying, but they don't, if I'm

asking you. That ever, if I'm telling you really mm-hmm. that I wanna do something to you, I should also let you know that I want to do it because it's going to bring me pleasure. And I think this happens a lot in relationships and this is not limited to poly, but also in a lot of monogamous relationships, long-term ones where it's like, man, I wanna go down on you, but I don't wanna go down on you because. Just solely it's gonna bring you pleasure.

pleasure. And yeah. And we've been working pretty good about that too. I think it was the other night or last night you were like, I would like to go down on you for my pleasure. Yeah. And you did. And then we ended up having sex or whatever, and, and then we like stopped and then it was like, okay, well now I, now I, Carrie wanna go down to you for my pleasure. And, and there's a sense of. the person receiving to almost relinquish any type of obligation.

too. Well, that can also change the perspective on so many people that start to feel like whatever they're doing is a chore. Mm-hmm. And they're going, oh, oh my God, I'm gonna go down on em. Okay. All fine. Whatever. If you can switch to be like, I remember that. I like doing this. Mm-hmm. it does bring me enjoyment. I wanna do this because I en I enjoy doing it because I enjoy it because they want me to. Not because they're asking me to, but because I want to do it.

there's also a sense that people need to understand that giving pleasure because you want to, are receiving pleasure because they're asking Cuming does not have to happen. Right? There's so many times where I. PLE or head for my pleasure. And you don't come. But

yeah, we usually evolve past, that's big break.

Yeah. Have, have sex all of a sudden I just wanna fucking go down on you. So I am, but I'm taking away the side of this like obligation of Oh, you have to come when I do though. Creates great teases. It does, but there's so much. Yes, it does. But again, people understand vulva, penis owners, I don't give a fuck. Listen, you can receive pleasure to not come. Yeah. And givers you can give pleasure to not just make them come. Yes. Or not.

Removing the goal of orgasm can bring you closer

actually. It really can. And it makes a, an act not feel like a job. Sometimes because all, I hate that they called a blow job. I'm gonna go on a rant. I hate that they fucking called a blowjob for it, because it doesn't, it makes it feel like it's a chore. It's a job. Like, am I getting paid for this? Like, how long am I gonna be there? Like, what's going on? Like, no. If you separate out the concept that you feel like you have to make them come because you're giving them some oral pleasure.

Which inadvertently does tend to create more orgasmic activity. Mm-hmm. however, you're not doing it because of that, you remove that stopper. Yeah. Because all the it, it happens too often that people go, well, I'm gonna go down on you, and all you're thinking about is young game.

Yes. How long until, is he gonna come? Is he gonna come? Is he, is he not closer, are they, are they getting, are they getting there? What's going on? Like, and, but I also think that it also takes a little bit of, from the receiver to understand that it's okay to then not come either. Yeah, it's okay. You'll get hard again. I'll get wet again. Yeah, it's totally fine. So Casey, for my pleasure. May I blow you when we're done with this

I didn't think it had to be said

I

thought it was a given

No. So, we have a few things that we wanna discuss aside from the episode. Thank you for listening to this, this, this episode met lot, especially to me. Yeah, this episode meant a lot for me, Veronica, the Volvo. If you are watching the Volvo, would you shut up? If you are watching our YouTube channel, you just saw the plush vulva that was created for us. Mm-hmm. But if you did not see us on our YouTube channel, that's very unfortunate for you. But we have two stuffed. Organs.

compete. Complete. Complete. She's very soft.

Complete, complete with lips. Libya.

Complete with labia. Both. Both Matura and Menorah. We also have a little cl

Oh, I do love her cl It's really cute. It has soft eyes

on it. Yep. Because she's gotta a see, has the vaginal

opening. Yes. That you can actually insert stuff into. Probably fingers would be best. Yeah. It, it's a small insertion but you can, so if we ever needed to demo how to finger someone, we can do that on, we do like a Veronica,

the, we'll do like a, a squirting demo or

something. Can I get like a thing in there to like push water out to make it like really show. I mean,

you can, the mic, you have

to talk to get like a little tube over here and squeeze it out. That's like the, isn't that what they do in Pornos?

Yeah. I don't, we're gonna find out. I was gonna say, isn't that what they do in Pornos? We're gonna find out in a few weeks. Actually,

we have, can we just talk about it real quick? We won't say her name yet. No, no. We aren't

gonna say a name yet, but we don't say name yet. But we do have a very well known, yes. Adult film star coming on in a couple weeks where she's gonna sit down. Can she be in Studio We gonna fly out LA

Yes.

taking the show on the road.

on her

dollar. No, I'm just kidding. No. But yeah, we are gonna be having a very well known adult film mattress and CEO of, of a multimillion dollar. Sitting down with us to talk about her time in the, in, in the industry. I'm so excited for this interview. We, we have, we're, we wanna try to make it unique mm-hmm. because I've, I've just heard a ton of interviews Yeah. With adult film stars where it's pretty basic questioning. Let's do you. Good. Well, let. Clearly you haven't listened any No, I

don't. I don't listen any What was the record again? Oh

my god. What was the record? Over 900. You're 900.

Yeah. Impressive. We'll talk to her about that. We'll see what her record is. No, I'm just kidding. We're not, we're not, we're we're. Our, our questions are going to be in a much different level of not the same fricking bullshit that you hear all the time. Yes, I'm. Being silly right

now. Yes. You are clearly So we, we are looking forward to that interview. Yeah. Yes, help. We need, we need names for these two pluses that we have here. Mm-hmm. apparently Frankie, the Fallas is the carry.

I, I like Frankie, I think, I think Frankie is cute. But we will let the, the viewers or the listeners at that point, Cammy the clam. Oh my God. Oh, Cammy and Frankie That's kind of cute. All right. No, we can't name our own. Our, our viewers have to do it.

right, we are. So be on the lookout for that. Mm-hmm. Anything else you wanna talk about? Anything else you wanna say, mention? No, I'm

done, man. This was good.

Well forget another, another episode of Come with kc. We are your host, Dr. Casey Sanders. And I'm Carrie Sanders. And we'll see you guys next time. No more tequila.