Well welcome back to another interview room episode here at Come with kc. As always, we are your host. I'm Dr. Casey Sanders. And I'm Carrie Sanders. And today we have a very special episode just for you guys because we have the very wonderful, very amazing. Toy expert and velvet box employee, Rochelle. Hey Rochelle.
Hello.
How are you today? I'm doing very well. I've been looking forward to this time with you guys for a very long time, so I'm glad it's finally here.
I know, right? We have this, so like a quick little bit of backstory for our listeners. Carrie and I love to frequent sex shops, as most people already know, and we love to go in and talk to a lot of the, I love the employees, get some insights and about what was like six months ago. Yeah, maybe We walk into the Velvet Box one day, which if you're not familiar with Velvet Box, they have a few locations in the DFW area really, really nicely.
Like well put together stores, super friendly staff and saly knowledgeable and we're in there one day and we. Rochelle here, and we, we were able to have, have them take us around the store. Mm-hmm. give us a lot of advice and we were so blown away by your expertise and your knowledge in this entire area that we went. We need to have them on the show.
Well, we like clicked instantly too, by the way, just saying. Mm-hmm. you know, there was like that sparkle. I was like, mm, we gonna like each other, but, but that just made it even. So exciting to come back and like hoping that you were gonna be there. You know what I mean? Like it. So it was really cool and it became this like experience for us and enough to say, Hey, we need you to come on our show.
So it's like full circle and it's so awesome that you're here now and we are gonna talk a lot about.
Toys, toys, all, all of, everything from from simple to complex. Mm-hmm. futuristic things. We're gonna figure out like, what are the best things to get into So, but before we start doing that, before we get into this whole thing, Rochelle, take a minute to just tell us a little bit about yourself, how you got into the sex toy industry, and really what drove what drives you in within the space.
All right. Well, initially I didn't think I was ever gonna go into this field. I graduated from u n T with a degree in International studies with a concentration in peace. I also minored in Spanish, but throughout my life I grew up in a very, you know, conservative household and I was kind of left on my own to figure all this stuff out. And then coming to find, you know, there's so much work that needs to be done, not only in our education system regarding sex education, but also Oh yes.
Like your own personal connection with your body and your own self-awareness and understanding. I, my first time ever going into Velvet Box was 2017 and that was like the one and only store I had ever been to, and I immediately felt comfortable and I started learning about myself, about the toys, and then it wasn't until. Last May. Yeah, may of 2022 that I like applied and got a job there and haven't looked back. I now wanna go into schooling, you know, four sex education reform and Yeah.
I just really enjoyed this is, you know, helping people figure things out, you know. So
I wanna ask, what was your first toy? Like you went in the velvet box the very first time. Mm-hmm. What was the first thing that you purchased?
The first thing that I purchased was I don't even remember the name of it. It was just a G-spot vibrator. It was purple. Mm-hmm. it had 10 different settings on it. The person there that was helping me got me the correct lubricant, toy cleaner, everything needed. And yeah, that was my first toy.
So then let's eventually, I thought we said before, as we've said before, we have a lot of listeners that are either being introduced to the world of toys or trying to, you know, expand their knowledge in the world of toys. So whenever you say G-Spot vibrator give us a couple, like a quick breakdown of what that means.
So, a g-spot vibrator. There's lots of, you know, different types out there. Of course, different shapes, different sizes, depending on, you know, the shape of your vagina, where your G-spot is located can all have a factor into what type of toy you get. But basically on a G-spot vibrator, it's just, it's. Kind of, you know, a banana shape. And the vibration is primarily focused on that G-spot area. And, you know, there's usually a couple settings on it.
Some toys are water play friendly, some are not. So yeah, that would be a standard G-spot vibrator. Mm-hmm. that just focuses solely on the internal portion of a vagina.
Right. And so for anybody that still is kinda like, well, I, I know I have a G spot, but I don't know if I've ever found it or not. I will, I'll speak to that. like, I guess resident. We have one back here. Yeah. Resident anatomist.
like I have one on the wall. I was trying to look real fast if
someone's doing self-exploration, and correct me if I'm wrong here. I believe that any, any, any Volvo owner is able to take their hand or take a toy and move. As they move into like the opening of the vagina in inwards, roughly about inch and a half to two inches mm-hmm. On the anterior or forward facing wall, you should be able to feel some sort of, I what don't wanna say like, patchy area and y'all speak to this because I'm literally like in the ignorant male here. I mean, you're,
I'm going, fingers are in a vagina a whole lot more than mine. So I wouldn't call you ignorant, but mm-hmm. But,
but you can feel that like kind of little like patchy area. And if you start to stimulate that, you'll notice a variant feeling between what you might normally feel deeper into the vagina or on the surface of the vulva. So anybody that's been like, you know, I have a G spot, I know I have one but I don't know how to find it. That's a quick little tip for anybody that's, that's wondering well, wait a minute, what's my G-spot and how am I supposed to get there? Mm-hmm.
right, right. Mm-hmm.
So we start off with that, right? We have our, we have our, you said you were kinda looking for one up in the back wall
here, Well, the last time I reached for one, they all came tumbling down. So I need to be, be careful on the reach. We actually broke two of our glass toys. We were super upset.
carry the whole fucking wall thing,
not wall thing came down. There were so much more up there once upon a time. So, so anyways, it say you have a couple coming into the. Mm-hmm. this is their first experience. What would be a toy that you would recommend for them that would be something that can be solo play and then also like a couple's play?
Very good question. So, I don't wanna speak for all, but most vulva owners enjoy the external stimulation the most. So I would recommend like a clitoral stimulant. Toy that can stimulate the external area also because that partner can also use it on them too. Probably something without such a deep rumble like the brand v do, is very well known for having really, you know, rough, deep vibrations. Mm-hmm. um, very intense motors.
And that could actually shy away a, a new toy owner very quickly because it's just way too intense. Mm-hmm. sometimes it could be painful, so getting something that doesn't have such a a deep rumble, a little bit lighter would be the best way to.
so Yeah, no, we've talked about that before. Mm-hmm. and especially with toys that we've bought in the past, is that we'll get something that if we order something online and it comes with, you know, free toys or we get something specific and we'll turn these on and we notice that the vibrational patterns can get really intense really quick.
And that's been an issue that we've, we've tried to overcome in the past, is trying to find a toy that gives an appropriate vibrational level that the user or users. Enjoy, be comfortable with.
Yeah. Right. We we say there's a treble and a base type. Motor out there. So the trouble's more the high pitch, the lighter vibration. Mm-hmm. And then the base, of course is like the really deep rumble. And with the deeper the rumble, the more intense vibration, the deeper it goes into the, the muscle tissues, which promotes the blood flow, which can increase orgasm for some people. That's what they like and, and enjoy. And others. Mm-hmm.
they just want a little bit of stimulant to, to get more blood flowing. and that's all right. It's just like going into stores is a big thing because you will be able to ask the individuals working there if they can take it outta the box and show you what that vibration is gonna be like. Yes. Yeah,
you've done that for us and I really appreciate that because like he was saying, I am hypersensitive to like vibrations. I unfortunately can't do the like, more intense ones. And so to have that like out and then you can like kind of feel it in your hand, that's always super helpful. Absolutely. Okay, so then my next question would be they have that stimulant that you just recommended. What would be the next, like next.
Next layer, like we just did this like I'm trying to figure how you're trying to ask. No, you're good. Like we, we did. Or even maybe they have that so what is something that a couple could explore next that would maybe elevate it just a little bit more?
Yeah, so I would recommend glass actually for an internal experience. Some people, you know, haven't, haven't read my mind. No. I'm like Yeah, they haven't. If you can something I love that piece. Some glass
Yeah, that one's one of my favorites. Don't real listeners that don't have us on video, we have this like probably eight inch or. Glass, rib, glass piece with all of these like nubs on it and everything else. This is a favorite piece of mine. First of all, it's double-ended and it's thick enough that you can hold onto and the bumps give you a good grip. So if you're using it for like penetration, mixed in with insertion that you can do all sorts of stuff with. Mm-hmm.
this is one of my favorite pieces that we own, and I mean, we have to be kinda prepared for, it's not the smallest in the world in terms of diameter. I'm like little intense, but. but we have a good number of pieces, including what you were talking about, like with a, with a little bit of a g-spot stimulation. So we have that kind of upward curvature with kind of a smaller teardrop on the, on the end of it. Mm-hmm. as well as these double ones that can u be used as a plug as well as penetration.
Yeah. So multipurpose.
Exactly. So, but where would you recommend to start? Because obviously we picked up the biggest one that we own. That's not, you know, that's not like for, for beginners. So what would you, what would
you re. There are so many different types of glass pieces out there, and the reason why I recommend glass is because they don't have any vibrations. So it won't be too overstimulating, but it will still give the individual the experience to feel something inside of them. Additionally, because glass is such a hard material, it massages deeper into muscles which can promote that blood flow. So you can easily control like how much pressure you're applying.
Or your partner's applying to promote that blood flow stimulation. But like I said, there's so many different ones out there. There are super smooth glass pieces. There are ones with a high degree of curvature depending on what you're using it for. There's some with suction cups that you can, pop it on a wall or into a harness like they're, yeah. Mm-hmm. they're just beautiful pieces and there's so many out there
to. I know they're so aesthetically pleasing, like they just look good. Something you works the wall and throw off as a piece of art to visitors, or one
that's just kind of funny. Like Look, look how
cute. Wait. Has a little wait. I have one ride over here. Can I go grab it real quick? Yes,
please.
Go grab it. Go get it.
All right. I have a handy little bag that I keep them in So one of my favorite ones right here. It's the, the tentacle looking one.
Yeah, I know. I've been wanting to, I've been wanting to get that, like I get that one. and we've, we've definitely looked at it, and I have not pulled the trigger on purchasing that one yet, but that one looks like it can be used for external stimulation. Internal stimulation.
Absolutely. Because the textures on the, the sides of the toy reach the legs of the, the clitorial area and really stimulate like the sides. And those are very, very sensitive areas.
Yeah. Especially like listeners, come on, you wanna talk it clitoris, we Mm-hmm. you start stimulating the actual legs of the cure of the clitoris. That thing can grow up to what, 300% of its Yes. Of its regular size as, as that erectile tissue becomes stiffing and we get that increased blood flow. So hell yes. Mm-hmm. to all of that. I love the fact that you're drawing attention to the whole purpose of toys in the first place again and again and again.
Like increase blood and flow stimulation of the tissue to get a person closer to achieving or. I think that one of the misconceptions that so many people have is like, I need this to come, right? Mm-hmm. especially when it comes to couples and like you have all of these penis owners who, who I talk with, who are like, well, I don't know if I, if I want my, my girlfriend, my wife, my partner, my spouse to, to use toys because now it's just making me look like I can't do it, and I mm-hmm.
we wholeheartedly disagree with that entire myth. Yes, me too. the biggest thing it does is just creates a, a, a new layer of play. Like it opens up the, such a huge world to couples to be able to not only use them to help achieve orgasm or just have fun, but to create like this, this whole new. like play space.
Yeah. It's been hella fun for us, man. Yeah, for I, I mean like, I don't know, if it wasn't for sex toys, would we even be into where we are right now that opened up our mind to the possibilities of our body in exploring one another And this like openness?
I mean, I can, I will not speak for you, but I'll say for me, once we really started exploring those like sex options, that's when we kind of started to communicate more, I feel and we, there's just so much beauty in like the way that you can actually use these to connect with your partner versus using it to disconnect.
Absolutely. And unfortunately a lot of partners, you know, Volvo and. And penis owners, they do feel in a sort of way that it could be a replacement object. And that's not the case at all. If, if anything it is just in addition to like, you guys already have fun together, why not add, you know Yeah. Things that can mm-hmm. can put a different element in layer onto that experience. And like you guys said, there's so many different things out there exploring kinks you know, having.
you know, fantasies and role playing. There are so many different things out there that can bring you guys closer together. Mm-hmm. when you guys find out you have so much in common that you wanna explore.
Yes, absolutely. That was one of the things that we've talked about is, you know, we have episodes that we've done about finding, initiating things like threesomes in group play, and, but we've also had the discussion on what happens whenever a couple has a fantasy maybe of that, or one of them has a fantasy, but they don't want to bring in another person to the bedroom. They don't wanna bring in that third party. So what can they do?
Well, one of the best things you can do is get a toy with a, maybe a suction cup on it or something. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. and use that, create the fantasy. that you have, especially if it say that. Yeah. So instead of a
third it's a toy. Yeah.
If you have a, if you have a spouse that has yeah, I love that. You know, say that Carrie comes to me and she was like, I would like to have the experience of a threesome with, with that is male, male, female. But we, if we weren't ready to dive inside, have something like that. Yeah. Okay. Let's go to the toy store. Let's find a section cup that can go on a wall or on the floor. Mm-hmm. And we can use that as kind of a fantasy third to make a compromise.
Yeah. And that whole experience, it just opens up such a world. Of possibility and the fact that we have somebody like you that we can come in and say, listen, here's our idea. Could you help point us in the right direction?
Oh, we've totally done that. We've literally walked in and been like, we want something new. We want a male centered toy. Yeah. Help us figure out a male center toy or something. I'm pretty sure we actually, we've exclusively done that with you, but
Yes. Yeah. I've showed you guys a couple things. Mm-hmm. how is the pillow? You guys got the pillow right? The.
We did, we used about that thing. So yes, we opted for kind of like the smaller liberator wedge, I believe it was, that had the cuffs on it. Mm-hmm. and that. Mm-hmm. That has been a magnificent addition over the last
few months. Yeah. Ladies invest in one. I'm telling you from the different positions that you can be in, sometimes arching your back that aggressively. it does start to hurt after a while. So then that, to have it underneath you or to flip it around and have your legs up, you naturally pull, pulls your pelvis up higher. It has been one of my absolute favorites. That thing is a lot of
fun. Yeah. Every bit of it's just to that ion. Mm-hmm. everything we get just adds to the fun and the pleasure that we kind of get to experience together, so. Mm-hmm. Well, with, with having said that, we have, we go through and we go to, We've talked like g-spot vi vibrators, we've talked a little bit of glass. One of the other ones I want you to touch on is the control models where people will have like vibrators that they can place into their underwear that are remote controlled.
Ones that are mint and made for like couple play.
Oh, yes. Okay. So my biggest recommendation on that is gonna be the brand we vibe. Yeah. The reason being. They have Bluetooth connectivity, a lot of other toys that have remotes when they're either placed inside or underneath the layer of clothing, the connection between the toy and the remote just goes away. It's not strong and it could just cause frustration.
So with we Vibe, because it is Bluetooth and a and a higher grade toy the connection between the remote and the the vibrating piece or you can even control it from your phone, is gonna be a lot stronger and a lot more dependable. Additionally, the times that they last, like just the, the battery charge, An hour and a half to two hours on a full battery. Nothing is better than that. You don't want your toy to die in mid play. It's just heartbreaking. Yeah. So, yes, highly recommend we vibe.
And with the toys that you were mentioning, specifically, the internal G-spot remote controlled one is called the jive, and then the external one for panty wearing and clitoral stimulation is called the mox.
Okay. Yeah, and I mean, I've seen the popularity of these things rise so much recently, specifically to like Instagram reels. I, we have come across so many on our page where it's like a couple out in public and it shows the, you know, one of them holding the phone and just ramp it up and you see the, whoever's in front of 'em, like bear. Basically collapse onto the ground. Yes. These vibrations or these little jumps of pleasure as they come into. We need to do
that in an episode. I know, right?
We need to do that in an
episode.
We're gonna have you wear one. Exactly. I'm just gonna sit there. Go. Who's playing with it? You're watching on video. I'm be sitting there like making patterns. Maybe we get people
to our YouTube channel. you know, come watch Carrie's face.
Come with Casey only fans. Oh dear God.
So we've talked a little bit about that as well, but how can individuals use these as almost like a, a solo play? So yeah, imagine like having a glass, glass. I, from personal experience, it took some time for me to get comfortable using a glass toy on myself. So what are some ways that you could recommend someone to kind of, not only just to have a good experience from using a glass toy on solo with
solo? Very good question. Well first off, get a really good lubricant. If you are someone new to like internal stimulation and internal play, it's best to find something that will make it the most comfortable. And with Glass Toys, I always recommend Silicone Lubricant just because it lasts way longer than. Base lubricant. Mm-hmm. and then also makes it more slippery slighty and reduces friction the most.
So having a good lube is a great place to start, but also there are different positions that you can lay your body in to explore yourself. Mm-hmm. one of the most common is of course, laying on your back with your, like legs propped up. That will give you good, good access to the vaginal opening and being able to reach down there with the toy. Second is kind of like being in a. puppy dog style or like on your hands and knees and inserting from like behind. That's a good place. Mm-hmm.
And a good way to find the G spot just because you'll be able to angle the toy down onto the g spot more and feel that stimulation. You can also stand up and insert. that way any place and any position that you're most comfortable in is the best way to go. Some people even like playing around it in the shower just because it's a good soothing area. It's, you know, not as, you know, people aren't gonna be around you. You're alone by yourself.
The water can also be soothing on your body to reduce any stress that you may feel. So even like going into a, a comfort, a comfortable space outside of your bed could, can honestly help as
well. Yeah. And, and, and what better way to help your partner than to help yourself? Like this whole, this whole notion of self love, figuring out what feels good for you, figuring out what your pleasure spots are, and how things work with your own body. And that allows you to just communicate better with your partner in the bedroom.
And now you're both able to have much, much more pleasure I think that's something that, that was a, that's been a big one that we've talked about a lot, especially in our, some of our circles and we're doing like coaching or anything like that, is people asking the question of, well, you know, I, I have, my partner has trouble achieving orgasm, or they don't have the ability, very big ability to communicate what feels great. And so our first recommendation is always solo play. Mm-hmm.
you know, get out of your head that masturbation is, Unhealthy or shameful practice and start doing it more and more and more to figure out what feels good for you. Try different toys, try different positions, find what feels good, and then work to communicate towards your partner about what you enjoy. Mm-hmm. it's a self-love all day man. a
hundred percent. Yes. When you don't, when you're not aware of what feels. Feels good on your body. There's no words for you to be able to tell someone else how they can make you feel good too. So yeah, self-love, self-care, masturbation all day every day. Highly recommend knowing yourself and loving yourself.
See, there you go.
Okay, so I have a question about a toy that e everyone is seeing online, and I know a lot of people are asking about it, and I feel like you already know what I'm talking about. That damn rose thing. What, what can we talk about that toy? There is so much misunder, like standing when it comes to that toy. I would love to hear about it
for sure. So ultimately what the rose is, is air pulsation. Womanizer did it first. They did it. The best womanizer is a team of scientists who created air pulsation, and I would recommend womanizer all day, every day over a rose. Now a rose is a good introduction to what air pulsation can feel like, and the difference between vibration and air pulsation is ultimately with vibration, it's direct contact to the area you're stimulating.
So the nerve endings can actually become overstimulated, unreceptive desensitized because it's direct contact and it can actually kill the sensation and stimulation that you experience over time with air pulsation. And I can actually grab my toy real quick if you'd like. Yeah,
sure It is. Yeah. I know, thank you for asking this question. I'm like, okay, I know we've seen this, we've seen it all over the internet. We've seen it in stores. Let's, let's talk more about it. So yes, introduce us a little bit. Let people ask
me. I'm like, I don't know,
So this is the womanizer liberty. It's one of their smaller models of toys, but it still does the same great thing. Right here you can see it's a, it's. Oval opening, and it goes right around the area. You're stimulating. Mm-hmm. and with pulses. It actually pulls blood to the surface of that area, giving that stimulation without direct contact to the nerve endings.
So those that have actually had a long journey and a long period of time with vibration that is experiencing, you know, a little less sensitivity down there, this can actually bring back the sensation and sensitivity. because it's naturally pulling blood to the surface with pulses of air. It's not suction. Suction pulls and holds. Mm-hmm. which can actually damage your vendings too. But with this, it just, you know, pulses of air, air pulling.
I like it.
So, yeah. Would that be recommended for someone that has experienced any type of Like cancer or like chemo. Cause I've heard that that is something that they end up experiencing, like less feeling. And so would that be a good like recommendation for pre reactivating before any type of play,
for sure. Yes. Even like people with arthritis or have a tough time holding onto a toy, you know, people that have experienced certain like health issues, this is a very gentle toy that will be able to still activate the sensation and sensitivity down there in that area to still give pleasure. Oh, and I forgot to mention the biggest reason why I recommend Womanizer over the Rose is solely because of one, the Air Force technology is just way more what am gonna call it way more accurate.
And then with the rows, it's actually like a circular opening at the top. Mm-hmm. and most Volvo owners are not circular shaped with the rows you have to press down way harder to get a good seal to experience the air pulsation. So, oh, all in all. And plus, womanizer has a five year warranty. If your toy breaks it all within those five years, you're covered. So it's a such a good investment.
Well, awesome. Let's think there's not only with toys, though, I kind of wanted to get into a little bit, like slightly changing gears to not necessarily as far as like impact play, but using toys as like maybe like paddles or whips or just like gentle toys that people can kind of like introduce like a newer. lifestyle into their bedroom.
Sensory play. Yeah. Girl. Is that what we're going to okay.
You? Yes.
yes. Sensory play is really, really cool. And can I talk about, you know, perhaps someone that may have experienced trauma? Please. Perfect. Okay. So those that have experienced trauma can have a very hard time, you know, with that intimacy and connection and trustworthiness in the bedroom, starting with something light, with even just a feather, no blindfold, no restraints at all.
Just laying down and having a partner rub a feather across your body can start to heal Some of that the psychological. Responses to any sort of trauma they may have had. And then eventually you can start you know, reducing certain senses, like taking site by putting on a blindfold and then in, you know, reintroducing a, a feather or perhaps, you know, sometimes like a chain or something else that can give like a really cool sensory sensation.
We have toys that actually do hot and cold, and that is a really cool thing that you can just rub across the body and, and give temperature play even mm-hmm. And then you can. you know, move on to, you know, certain restraints like having your, your wrists together, your ankles together, take away some sort of mobility and then still do, you know, a wide variety of sensory play without any impact. Mm-hmm. that's the biggest thing is that, you know, it doesn't always mm-hmm.
have to be, you know, rough and leaving marks and, you know, you don't have to go to that space if you don't want to. so many other ways to do sensory play, you know? Mm-hmm. With other you know, toys.
Yeah. That's one of the reasons why we even, we'll use glass for for temperature play. Mm-hmm. We have a mini fridge in our room that we keep stocked with the waters and things, and during the day I'll just take one of our glass toys and put it in the fridge and use and have that in there. So then later on at night, whenever we start to play, pull it right out. It's ready to go. You're good to go. The
biggest thing, please don't put glass in a freezer. That can, you know, with the warmth of the labia menorah and madura, if you put a cold, you know, frozen piece of glass down there, it's not gonna be a good time. Yeah, a refrigerator or resting it on a bed of ice is the best way to do that. To cool your, your glass.
So we don't need like the stung, the tongue stuck to the frozen pole situation going on with yo labia
Not fun. Not fun.
And now I have a lot of visuals about what that could look
like. Now I have a new punishment to write down
under God. No, but, but I want, I wanted to go into the century play too, because it's not, I think people assume ve. Get a toy or I get lingerie. But no, there's so much more that you can do with a partner, like you're saying, the century play that can be as soft as a feather or as hard as a paddle. But when you. Enter into this like realm with someone that you feel comfortable with. Talk about how much you can build a relationship and how much you can build a connection.
These things don't always have to be sexual, and that's one of the biggest points I was trying to bring up with going into this concept too, is. Sex and intimacy can come in all forms. Mm-hmm. whether you're doing something like a glass toy or you're doing something like a feather, you are sharing a moment with an individual or individuals and it's all about connecting and growing.
And these opportunities, like that's what these sex toys are for, is for opportunities to explore more within yourself and with the people that you're around.
For sure. We recently got a new. We recently got a new line in called Dia, and Dia has a vibrating feather tickler actually. So it combines both the of the. And the vibration from, you know, like a toy. And so yeah, there's a plethora of different options out there. And they're super fun to just bring in and explore with change up the roles, use it on different partners at different times. So, Yeah.
It's just a lot of fun. It's all over the like. Yeah. A lot of this sensory play is, is just, there's so many possibilities. And I kind of touched on what you said a little bit, is that one of the things that we noticed was that as we opened up a little bit more to discussing things like toys and fantasies and all this, it helped improve not just the sexual aspect of a relationship, it helped improve our communication. Mm-hmm. it helped improve like our day-to-day lives. It helped. exactly.
Literally
how we communicated better outside of the bedroom because we were communicating so well inside the bedroom.
Yeah, and it improves self-confidence too, the more you feel like mm-hmm. you know yourself and can express yourself and clearly communicate how you feel and what you want. You just, yeah, you, you feel like you're glowing because you are advocating on your own behalf and your partner is supporting you in that.
See? There you go. Yeah. So, so all the good thing we've covered, I mean, we all good things. We've covered more of like the penetrative toys mm-hmm. And surface toys. One of the type of toys that we haven't covered, those plugs,
I, you were literally reading my mind. I'm like, man, do we have enough time to talk about plugs, Yes.
Like, do we have enough time? Am stroker's leads, because you've, I mean, you've heard me say this before, she is that I think that the, the male sex toy industry, in terms of. It's rough and sleeves and things like that. Sure. And is they, they need more, more variety. It, unfortunately, we run into this whole thing of the, most of what I see coming out is just like pro models. Oh, look, here's this adult film star.
They made a mold of their vagina and then they put it onto a sleeve and now we just sell that. We don't really have much variance to what we do. We just put a face on it and then people buy it. Right. As opposed to I look at the, the, like the Volvo owner sex toy industry and there's. So many variant types and different things that you can do with them. Mm-hmm. and they're experimenting with air and, and vibration and electricity. And
also, I mean, all of those things can happen to your balls too. I'm just saying. Of course they can.
More of what I'm talking about is how do we gear that marketing. Right. No, I know,
I know.
I'm just kidding. So, interesting enough. But yes, let's shift the conversation a little bit to some of our favorite things, and that is going to be plugs. I'm gonna let you, I'm gonna have you take. The top tips if you have a few for mm-hmm. finding and securing a plug as well as maybe some of the tops things to avoid whenever dealing with plug play as I hold out this very noticeably flared base.
yes. You have to make sure that you're, your toy has a flared base because when the anal the anal muscle. relax around a toy. If there's nothing holding it there, it's gonna go right up inside. And now you're on a phone call, we'll send it to the er. Yep. We don't want that. So flared base so that your, your animal muscles can relax around it and hold it tight. For those that experience pain during, you know, anal play, you know, sometimes it's not the most comfortable thing in the world.
There are relaxant serums, and. His thing is to avoid a relaxant serum that has benzocaine in it, which does numbing. When you have a numbing agent back there, if any rips or tears happen on the anal walls, which are very thin, you're not gonna be aware of it because you're gonna be numbed. Mm-hmm. additionally. Yeah. Any sort of pleasure or you know, good sensations and stimulation that comes from anal play. If you're numbed back there, you're not gonna experience it.
Yeah, so the biggest thing is just to find a standard relaxant serum. You apply it about two to three minutes before activities happen, letting it soak in. Still use loop because yeah, the relaxant serum is only gonna relax. And then the lube is of course gonna do the lubrication. And of course, what do I recommend for anal play is.
Because with anal play you can use silicone and silicone lubricants are very important for anal play because again, they last the longest and reduce friction the most. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So additionally when you start out with anal play there's a wide variety of sizes, of course get a relatively smaller one, so that beautiful. Yeah. So we have
a set of like trainers that I'm showing on the screen. Yeah. Train trainer sets are our face. So yeah, the trainer set showing like a much smaller. Into something a little bit more advanced through time or as you become more comfort.
for sure. So yeah, start with something that isn't intimidating, something that's comfortable and even cute. Mine what I'm showing right now has a little rose on the end of it. Yeah. And yeah, start with something comfortable. Ring the doorbells. What we always say, you know, you don't wanna just like shove something in there right away. You wanna just gently ring the doorbell, ensuring that the anal muscles are relaxed and then slowly pop it through once.
you know, you can see that everything is going well back there and that the, the individual's not in any.
Yeah, that's, so that's a big piece of advice that we give to a lot of people is that whenever they're first working with anal play is that a lot of couples will get into this very they call it like a primal state, is what I like to call it. They get more aggressive. They're like, they're getting hot and heavy and they just wanna go, go, go. And maybe they're sex getting real intense and they're like, all right, now we're gonna try anal play.
And they don't realize that the number one thing that they need to do is slow. Mm, patience. Take your time. Lots and lots of lube and go spit is not lube slow. spin spit is
not, I'm trying to say that in every episode. I think spit is
not lube. stay louder for the people in the back. Gosh. Yeah. That can throw off GH balance and cause like bacterial infections. And yeah, please don't. It is hot, like on the body. You know, there's of course other ways and areas to do that, but in those intimate areas, please avoid it at all costs.
see there, I'm sitting here going,
it is not lube. Yes.
See, that's good. So, so as we're talking plugs, do you have anything you wanna add? Ooh. There we go. Those are fun. Yes. One of those are fun. One of our favorite things that we have in terms of plugs is these, and if you're watching this, it is this one in part in particular is like a raccoon tale
almost. Oh. For the people not seeing, why don't you say what you're holding in your hands? Why said no? All you said was RACs raccoon tail is plugs. Yeah. I'm just saying, man, if I got looking, let you know what you're talking
about. The picture, it's a nice, nice size, a nice size plug with a tail onto it. And for anybody that's never tried this before, I recommend it just because it's this really good aesthetic. Like it makes for really good role playing. It makes for a really good fantasy play. You just
kind of feel sexy and it's fun. And I, I loved having the. And they have like little rabbit tails. They're so
cute. Little like poof ball rabbit
tails. Especially ball ones. Yeah. They're like, it's so cute. Fox tails. There's so many gorgeous ones out there.
Yes. They have ones that have like little flexible spines on the inside that you can move around. Yeah. That
you can make point. Yep. Sorry, I just had a flashback to a sex box that we got that there's a butt plug, but it was a dog tail that wasn't like looped up and around That's awesome. That's super cute. So the last thing that I wanted like kind of discuss too, and it was actually an experience that I had with you was when I went in. and I was trying to find lingerie for our anniversary. Mm-hmm. So another thing that Velvet Box offers up so well was being able to try stuff on.
I have been to shops before where it was either I could try it on, but I didn't want to try it on, or they just didn't even have the availability to do that. So, Coming to your store. It's a beautiful place for you to be able to disrobe. They have this like massive curtain and you kind of feel like sexy going in there doing that. But you're also very helpful with figuring out what size and what fit my body.
And so I, another thing that I strongly encourage ladies, if you don't know your body type, You can go to these places and they'll help you. They will help you find items that are gonna make you feel sexy, and then you get to try 'em on and, and again, you were just super helpful. And I ended up like purching it. It's one of my favorite lingerie outfits.
Yay. That's exciting. I'm glad that you found us helpful. We try in regard to like trying on lingerie, we have so many people come in and they're like, I've never bought lingerie before. And so one of the biggest things that we try to do is find out what style they would find most flattering on their body. Some people like the baby doll cut. Some people like the Teddys, some people like cor.
And so it's really just about asking those questions and finding out what do you wanna accentuate on yourself and what are other areas that you may be more self-conscious about, and then finding something that would fit then the best.
Boom. Yep. See there? Oh yeah. I mean, like I said, it's just every time that we've gone in, it's always been a good experience between looking for an outfit or looking for a toy or looking for something new or just coming in there to mess with y'all.
we've been, we've been, we've been next door on date night. We've had a couple margaritas. We want to go to the shop.
we come
in, we're like, Hey, you guys are like, Hey. And then we have like a really great conversation about random stuff. Always a good time.
Yeah. We're talking toys. My, my imagination, my fantasy lane is that we're sitting there all talking about new toys and things, and hopefully someone overhears us in the store. That's a customer. They're like, perks their interests, and now they're like, well, let's try that.
Let's go. I thought you were gonna say come home with us. I was like, where is he going with this? I was like, fantasy. Okay. No, we'll go there.
I'm, I'm following you straight. I'm just helping people. Jesus. Scott
Having fun also. Were we
Yeah. Okay. So, any, I mean, any other questions? I mean, we talked a little bit about stroker, some mm-hmm. but there's not much to do the, honestly, the is pretty easy to stimulate so
I
think,
well there is another category. Yeah. That. Yeah. I could bring up real quick. There are a lot of new toys out there and so many people are now getting into virtual reality. There are toys now that are paired with that that you can go like with a brand Cairo. they have feel me.com, where you can link your toy up to what is going on visually, like in the video playing, you can also send an access code to anyone around the world so that they can control the toy for you.
That also works really well for couples that experience long distance. Since relationships. Yeah. And so that they can play with each other still virtually feeling connected and still having a good time together. So, yeah. What you
brought that up. I like that you say it that way cuz my mind at first was like, wow, that'll do great for, you know, like the camming industry for people being like, Hey, you know, pay me and it's gonna control mm-hmm. and I'll be able to control this. You'll be able to control that. Mm-hmm. but I'd love to draw it back around to couples in long distance relationships. Especially if y'all are.
FaceTiming or you're setting up a webcam and you're doing you're doing what you're talking about, sending a link and being able to control a toy remotely. And then the addition of VR stuff. I know that we have, we have a guest coming on from the adult film industry here in a couple weeks who their page just featured something on about what it's like to film vr. Scenes and what sort of changes that kind of brings in.
So like that innovation is, is an interesting one that I'm curious to dip a little bit further into. I am
too. I didn't even know that. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's amazing.
I look forward to episode because that's very, yes. We're, we're about that. I don't know much about VR whatsoever. So if people ask me, you know, what is this like name I, I, I have no idea.
Oh, I was like, my kid's got VR headset, but I don't know Yeah, I was about to say,
I was like, can we borrow Parker's or No? the only
VR experienced, oh, I'm sorry. Is like the, the rollercoaster one, and it made me so nauseous, like everything was going so quickly and it was just overwhelming. And I was like, Nope, no VR.
Yeah, I, I can't imagine what that would be like to be like, put on a headset and be like, okay, this is odd All the things, all the, everything that's happening on the screen and all that. I don't
know. It's for some people for sure. So test it out to, to kind of like finish this out. We just have one question for you or one maybe tip that you can give people. You and your partner, you go into a store, what is your biggest advice for.
All right. So you and your partner go into a store perhaps just like asking like, or perusing around first do a lap, you know, see what there is to offer. Yeah. Because especially when it's your first time, you have no idea what's in there. And then like after you do a lap with your partner, turn to them be like, what sparked your interest? And then go to that section. Mm. Mm-hmm. And then maybe you guys can just point out things on the, like the
lab concept.
Mm-hmm. pointing out things on the wall. That's, that's my biggest thing you're interested in. Mm-hmm. for sure. It's a really good thing. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. I, you know, we, we see couples go into these, these shops and they'll go straight for this one section maybe they feel comfortable with. I always say, step outta your comfort zone a little bit. Go find something, even if it's like y'all together or y'all separate throughout the store and take a lap. Mm-hmm. like just with, without, without each other. Find something that sparks your interest.
Take a closer look at it, and then whenever you can grab a sales associate and be like, I wanna know more about this. What can you guys tell me about it? like it, it sparks conversation. It allows people to open up and actually fulfill some of these fantasies that they've been mm-hmm. keeping inside.
Yeah. I think I'm even guilty of that, like going in and, and not well before now, I think we do a good job of kind of circling the store, but that's a really good advice. I like that. See everything, then figure out maybe what you want or like you're saying like, go separately and both of y'all grab something that you're interested in and then like you said, find an a sales associate. every store that we've been in, everyone has always been very helpful, very nice.
And that's always eased our like comfort level too. And to our listeners, like know that this is their job. Yeah. They want to do this, they want to help. Like it gives them pleasure to help, you know, yes. So ask them things.
I have heard everything under the sun. There is no silly question. There's nothing that like mm-hmm. you know, is singular to you because everyone experiences all sorts of different things with their bodies, with their, their intimacy. And so we're just there to help you find the best product that works for you and your situation and whatever you want to accomplish. Yep.
There it is. Perfect. Awesome. Well, with that, I think we'll go ahead and call it a day. Yeah. Rochelle, thank you so much for, for coming on lending in your expertise. Are you comfortable with sharing any contact information or maybe how people might, might find you or, you know, if they have any questions or anything like that?
I can plug my Instagram real quick. It's Rochelle, not Rachel. R a s h e l n o t r a c h e l. Rochelle, not Rachel. I like it. like it. I'm at Velvet Box. Anyone there at Velvet Box would be more than happy to help you. We go through extensive training not only on product knowledge, but also how to talk to trauma res trauma informed to help them. Mm-hmm. we take quizzes and tests on anatomy. So I mean, we're, we're just overall we, we really care about what we do, so mm-hmm. Love it.
To plug my story.
Awesome. Well, again, there it is. I love it. Yeah. If you have never been to Velvet Box, now's your time to go. They, they have a number of locations around the DFW area and they are just, well put together, aesthetically pleasing and very, very helpful whenever it comes. All of your pleasure needs. Mm-hmm. So again, for, for coming with Casey, I'm Dr. Casey Sanders. And I'm Carrie Sanders. And we'll see you next time. Bye guys. Take care.