well, hello. Good. Afternoon. Yeah, everybody. Welcome to come with kc. It is officially season two, so freaking excited that we're in season two. Do you see our glorious backdrop? If you saw our little tease promo, then you know, and you did see it, but if you did not see that, then here it is. Look, we did it. We're already starting to learn new things, like how to look into a camera. Yes, that's, yeah. Cause I was looking over here. Now I gotta look over here. So like, that's weird.
Uh, we're gonna look back at these episodes with the same like podcast episode that we sent out and we like hated the very first episode. Oh yes. But the first episode is the one that everyone loves, which is interestingly enough, like our first episode is our most downloaded episode. Oh no. It's so funny. And it's the one that we're looking back like, oh my God. That was the worst one. I wish that wasn't the most downloaded one. We have so many good episodes and I know such good content.
And then we're like the first one. That's, that's the big one, but, okay. But here we are, season two. Yep. And this is going to be our premier episode where we are going to reintroduce ourselves. Mm-hmm. we are going to, uh, reinsert ourselves and we got some stories to tell and we're gonna do a deep dive into us. Mm-hmm. like that was the decision. I mean, well, and it was a decision and it was one that we kind of like, came together, but it was.
because so many people, when we, uh, introduce this concept of this sex podcast, one of the first things they ask is like, the why. Why are y'all doing this? And we took a lot of time to. figure out what our why was mm-hmm. but even then, how we came to be, um, in this room with this setup, talking to y'all. Yeah. Um, what made that happen? So that's gonna be the biggest part of, of our episode today. Well, why don't you go ahead and just dive into that.
Like I let, instead of, we don't need a recap, what everything should happen. We really don't. Let's dive in and talk about why we're doing this in the first place. Mm-hmm. and why season one was so success. because we didn't expect that No, we really didn't. And, and that was super surprising, but also really rewarding. We had this concept that we grew and then this concept helped a lot of people. I mean, the feedback that we have received from our season one is amazing.
Uh, we've had comments, uh, there. There was a lady that messaged us and. Had I listened to this podcast, maybe I wouldn't be divorced right now. That was a big one. We did have, we did have someone come through and say, I wish I had known this while I was still married. Mm-hmm. Um, we've had people say, Hey, well, and it was the communication thing that they lacked the much as part of our big three css. Yeah. Um, if, if you are like first time viewer, congratulations.
Um, however, the first three Cs is, uh, a big part of what. Season one was about Oh, sure. Which, which, uh, would you like to go ahead and jump into those just like Yes, absolutely. Briefly. So, so the big three that we have, we have first of all consent. Mm-hmm. um, we all hear consent all the time. It means, you know, giving somebody a verbal Yes. Or a cue to move forward with something mm-hmm. but we, we always dive deeper into making sure it's enthusiastic clear.
Yes. And making sure it's something that, there's no question about it. I've been granted permission by this person to come into their space. Yeah. Um, or perform whatever act activity or whatever it was we're working on. Mm-hmm. So that's a big one with us, is. It's one of our top three and one of our three Cs. Yes. Next up we have communication. We hit on this almost every fucking episode.
Yeah. Literally every episode we're trying to give an example of like, no matter what our topic was, here is a way to communicate that. Yes, absolutely. And the reason why we have important communication is because, let's face it, uh, messages can be misconstrued. They can be taken in a way that was not intended.
and whenever you're communicating properly with your partner and you're doing it in a way that that communication line is clear, it creates some really good sex, which could really fall into the next one is comfortability. Comfortability. We wanna make sure that every act that we touch on, every relationship structure that we dive into, every concept that we. Really push out towards you guys as a, as a way to help deepen your relationship together.
Yes. Um, or with as many partners as you might have that you're comfortable in doing so and how to deal not only with being comfortable in that. but how to deal with discomfort whenever you experience it, and then how to communicate that discomfort appropriately. Yeah. So those are our big three. Yeah, those are our big three. That was And comfort and communication.
Yes. And so that was what, uh, a lot of our first season was about, and each season has kind of had a theme so far that we've come to realize. Mm-hmm. um, this season we are bringing y'all so much content as far as. that skill. We're doing interviews. Yeah. This is bunch of interviews, so this is blown up by the way. It really has, one thing that we weren't expecting whenever we set out to, uh, reach out to people about doing interviews was, to, um, be overwhelmed with yeses kiss.
We expected that we were gonna have to like, hit the pavement and go mm-hmm. digging around for people that were Please be on our podcast. Yeah. We have this, we have this little podcast that's doing fairly well.
We want you to come beyond there and, and maybe share some expertise about, you know, anal or maybe share some expertise about, Opening up a relationship or, or about some, some topic bdsm, I mean about BDSM and kink, which spoilers almost every speaker that we have right now is everything he just said. Yes. So, so, but no, it just came so easy. It, I mean, we, we put it out there in the universe and now we're booked, we're booked for, we're booked for months. Yeah, we're booked for months out.
So if you are watching this right now and you're like, well, damn, I have something I wanna. Reach out to us. Uh, please come with casey gmail.com or head over to Instagram, come with Casey. Uh, and, and just drop us a line on there. Hey, um, I saw your episode. If you guys are looking for more guests, I love talking about, and the answer will always be yes. The answer's gonna be, we're gonna find a way to fit that in Yeah. Um, as we move forward.
So that's a, a little bit about where we've started off. Mm-hmm. with this season too. Um, shit, it's been a hell of a year. It really has. It's crazy to think that we started this back in September. Mm-hmm. uh, we're now in January. Yep. And we've, we've grown a lot and, and it's been very rewarding. Um, we've learned, we've charted on, on various outlets. Apple, like Apple Podcasts had us charting, and I think we hit number one 30. Uh, in the US for sexuality, we hit like, that's so crazy.
In the top thousand of all podcasts for health and fitness, we have, we just keep growing. Mm-hmm. and we have no intention of slowing down. No. I mean, the, the list of content that we have is fricking ridiculous. And, and we're just gonna keep bringing you all of this. Yeah. We're gonna keep going with it. Yeah, a hundred percent. So again, to reiterate all of this, the first episode is we really wanna dive into us, like we're started. Well, I think you said something we started about why we.
Yeah. I mean, we get asked that pretty frequently, like, why a sex podcast? But it's cool. It's, it's funny, it's like, sometimes it's positively, sometimes it's, you know, why are you doing this in a good light? And sometimes it's like, are, why are you doing this? Why doing this? Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? Like, we do get both. And just real quick, if you didn't see that on camera, then you didn't changes in my face.
And to understand like the difference of responses that we, that, that we get. Don't worry, we can hear it in your. Good. I hope that it comes off because I'm really not sure, but, uh, so anyways, why we started who we are. Um, and I, we're just gonna dive in because I, I don't want this episode to like, go off on a tangent. I'm glad that we can do that, but I, I wanna like reel it in.
Um, so we're gonna talk about again, like where this all started, because I don't think that anyone can truly understand the end until they know our beginning. and our beginning started in middle school. Oh, you're talking about our, our beginning. Our beginning. Not the beginning of this show. No, no, no, no. Our beginning. Us. A hundred percent. Us. Okay. Yeah. Let's, let's go there. We're diving into our like, okay, let's get to know us a little bit better. Mm-hmm.
Yes. It did start in middle school. Yep. Uh, started in middle school with like, Fringe friendship. Yeah. We were in the same groups, right? We were in this like skater kid group. Uh, if, if I remember correctly, uh, you were actually in the different hall. So in our middle school, you like walked into the sixth grade hall and then you split and you went right or left, you know, and, and de de depending on going right or left, depending on your like social class.
Almost you were in the like hood, right? Version of Yeah, I was actually Like you really were, you were of like where all the bad kids were. Well, okay, wait a minute. You were with all, and it wasn't on purpose, it's just how it happened. Like, and, and, but your left side, they were crazy on the left side, retro side. Retrospectively, that hall ended up turning into a lot of people that now maybe aren't in the best place in life. Let's just put it that way. So but that's where we first met.
I was, I was actually, you're actually in, in a punk rock band. Mm-hmm. with. Oh my God. But okay. That, yes, that was in seventh grade. Was that eighth grade? Actually, I don't think it matters. It does. It's fucking middle school. It doesn't matter of bullshit. So you're, that's a hundred percent, hundred percent fair. Don't oriented. Yes. So you were a, a Nixon's adventurous. Oh, you fish, you remember the name? She remembered the name. Uh, of course I did.
It was like my first boyfriend's like, ooh, my boyfriend's band. He was like the drummer. And at, at, just, just at the time, I was into drum. Yeah. Um, and Casey was lead guitar. Mm-hmm. And I remember going over to my boyfriend's house at the time, and y'all would come over and practice Of course. And I would get in so much trouble for looking at this fool. Okay. Over here. And I did. And I remember that too. And I remember being like, No, no, didn't, there's nothing there.
I didn't look at him. I was looking at you. Um, but it was really funny. Um, and, and then there was this like weird period where high school is the weird period. Um, and we. There was no, like, we are not friends anymore. It was just our, our groups kinda separated. Yeah. All that was like, I went into like drill team and you went into like skateboarding and like not doing anything and I'm just kidding. Everything I did was outside of school. Yeah. Like your activities were not Exactly.
And, and, and so we just kind of like grew apart a little bit, but I mean, How many years? Fast, fast forward another four and a half years or so. Five years. That's what I'm saying, like when, like when did we actually start to like meet up again? Um, we had seen each other a couple times cuz I would play like acoustic gigs around, around town. That's right. Yep. And, and you would come to that mm-hmm. with whoever you were dating at the time. That is very true.
I remember doing that and, uh, Eventually, so circa 2010. Mm-hmm. actually, we, we met up at a bar of all places. You know, that, that whimsical story of how things happen. I know, and everyone's always asked, they're, oh, how'd y'all meet? I'm like, well, I in Newman Middle School. But we'd actually start really talking to him. I met him at a bar. But what was funny about that in, uh, that night is I was there to hang out with another friend.
Yeah. Uh, and I was like reconnecting with like a high school friend. And I really think that had a lot to do with. Me then seeing you because I was like, wow, what are the odds that like, I'm hanging out with those old high school friend of mine and then I'm running into an old high school, other group of friends, or like acquaintances, I guess, sort of. Um, and there was an emergency with my friend. She had to go. I mean, we, we were only in there for like an hour, and she got a call.
She had to leave. And I remember one of your friends, mm-hmm. came up to me and was like, it was a little dramatic, keep in mind like, we're at a bar. She answers her. Oh my God. Like, I gotta go, you know, I like rush out. So it was a little of a, like a, a slightly more of a dramatic scene. And so whenever I'd come back in, my intentions were just to go home, but your friend did come up to me and your, and he was like, oh my God. Like, is she okay? I was like, yeah.
And he goes, are you leaving? And I just remember being like, I guess. And he was like, come sit with. and it was very strategic. It was, come sit with us, but you're gonna sit right there. Yeah. next to Casey Yes. And then I remember like, oh shit. Like, what's up man? Because really at that point, and we had been to parties together in high school too, like sort of same social crowd, but never really in the situation for us to talk. So I remember the first thing that we.
Discussed was, Hey, do you remember that band that you were in with my ex-boyfriend a long time ago? Like that was the most like relatable situation that, that we had had at that moment. Oh, for sure. Um, and, but we talked all night. Yes. That is one like super cliche thing that we had for our, the initiation of our relationship. Was the fact that we spent like three hours because just bullshitting and hanging out. I was at the bar early.
Yeah. I wasn't planning on being out late and we shut the bar down. Yeah. I had no intentions of that And it was a Tuesday night. You were kid free. Yeah, it was, it was a Tuesday night. it. That's funny. Yeah. Um, I was the fucking musician who like, yeah, that I don't even have a schedule. Well you were there to see a friend though, right? One of your friends was playing that night. Yeah. Yeah. And so, I mean, he at least had more of a reason to, to be there.
I was just there cause I didn't have my kid at the time, And so, I mean, can we say like, how the night ended? Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah. We don't, we don't have censorship on this. Okay, go ahead. Uh, so, and actually me and Carrie start hanging out. We're talking, we're having a good time. Uh, she needs to go to leave and so I follow her out to the parking lot mm-hmm.
and while we're outside, turning around and just start making out with her on top of her car on like the hood of my car, like we are making out. And then the, we have, we won't name names, but we have, we, we were. Um, a friend of a friend of mine who was a, at the time, a pretty well known musician mm-hmm. um, drunkenly and Stumblingly comes up to us to start talking to us like right in the middle of us.
Like laying, he was just talking, he was cheering us on He was very excited that we were making out on the hood of my car. Absolutely. And so he starts asking us questions and we're just like looking. All right. Wait, what? No, it was killer into a night. Like yeah, it, it was cute. And then I remember like we were done. I was driving home and I was like, I didn't get his number. Yeah. You know what's the weirdest thing about this though? Hmm?
Is I had just requested you on Facebook like two weeks before. Like, just like I was like, oh, Casey Sanders. I remember Casey Sanders ad friends, we had been friends and you like, added me back. And then it was literally like we met at the bar and then I remember like DMing him and being like, it was it called DMS for Facebook at the time. Why does it matter? I don't know. Whatever. We're gonna have a lot of that, aren't we? We are, we are. But um, I messaged Chalin was. Did you get home safe?
Which is ironic because his house was like a block away and mine was like across town. Yeah. Um, but I do remember being like, Hey, did you get home? Okay? Um, and I was just like, digging for you to ask me my number and I was like, ask me for my number. And it, I mean, it didn't take long, but it was just really funny that I was like, Messaging him and it like Facebook, I don't know, like these, these like memories crack me up now to see like, you know, obviously where we are.
But, so that was really what, um, kickstarted, that was a, that was a, I'm just looking at the time. This is, wow, that was a good story. Was it That was a long story and a good way. I mean, I can fucking talk man. You can, I can talk. Um, but then that kind of like, fast forward into us dating, um, and our, and our dating. And in the beginning went really well. We communicated really well for it being a a first time. We definitely, we just flipped. We for sure ignore it.
We for sure had a, um, interesting dynamic. It was not a traditional. It was not a traditional, you gotta let it go. that keeps flipping Yes. We did not have a traditional setup in the beginning. Carrie was a single mom. Mm-hmm. Um, I was a musician that was out of town a lot. You traveled, uh mm-hmm. Most weekends I'd be gone from like Thursday to Sunday. Mm-hmm. And so that did not leave us a lot of time. So it became immediate convers.
especially cuz you were such a strong-willed person mm-hmm. uh, with being a, with being a single mom, that it was like, Hey, listen, I'm not here to really fuck around. Yeah. Uh, and kept pushing me away too. That was the big thing that I remember was that she kept pushing me away. I wasn't pushing you away, I was just like, you don't want to be with me. This is, this is not for you. This is, this is, I've got a child. You don't want to date someone with a child. I did though.
And then, you know, that's scary as a a single mom. Absolutely. And I was insanely sympathetic to the cause. Right. You, you were a single mom. Mm-hmm. you were a working mom. You were at Fresh starting a career at the time. Yeah. Cuz when you met me, I had just graduated with my cosmetology license. Yes. So I wasn't even working yet when you met me. Um, funny story is you are actually the reason why I got my first job. Yeah. Um, his old hairdresser.
I went to like one of y'all's haircuts or visits or whatever, and I just told her, I was like, yep, this is what I'm looking for. I need a place to go. Uh, and she was the one that hooked me up with the very first salon that I, that I had worked at. So, which was like the fucking gateway to everything for you. It, it really was though, in all honesty. Like had you and I not met, I don't know that my career would've went in that path. I would've still been successful. Like, let's be real.
But no one said you wouldn't be. But I just don't know that I would've gone down the path that, that I did had I. Start dating at the time. So that also, you know, that was kind of nice worked out for me. Um, but you're right. We, we had a lot of these like in-depth conversations, but it wasn't me trying to let you go. It was just me really wanting to see like, how. Real, you were about this. Oh yeah.
You're testing my perseverance and patience and making sure that it was like, and I get that, doesn't it? No, I know you do, but it, but it, you responded very well to it. And I think that that's actually what brought us to like the next phase in our relationship is I had always been able to come to you and say, Hey, like we need to have a serious conversation. And, and your response has had always, what I needed it to be. And every single time it led us to the next phase in our relationship.
Mm-hmm. we met, we start, we officially said, Hey, we're gonna do this. We're going to do this together. You enrolled in chiropractic school? Yeah. Start, went immediately. Went and finished up some undergrad work that I had to complete, uh, and then enrolled and died doctorate work. Mm-hmm. like that was 2012. Was it really? Yeah. So we were together for two years. You started your program? Um, like days later proposed. Yeah, you did, you proposed fairly early on in school.
It was like just enough time to where you had created a lot of friends at Parker and it was, so what, what it was, was the fact that I went, okay, I'm about to get into a world of shit. I need to lock this down, like, What it was. No, it was, it was not like that. It was not that. Dig down. I went into orientation, orientation, orientation at school for everything. Uhhuh, And we were talking about goals and like where we're gonna be at. Mm-hmm. people are doing all this stuff.
And I had written down three, one of 'em was to become a public speaker on stage. Mm-hmm. Um, I don't remember what the second one was. And the third one was, I'm going to ask Carrie to marry me like before the end of the year. Hmm. And I did. Interesting. You did. I did. It was like September 10th or something. I started school. You're better with dates than me, but I sent school on September 3rd, 2012. It was like September 10th, like a week into school. That's what it felt place It was.
I would've sworn it was longer. You say that. That's so interesting. We can go back and forth, but we got, yeah. I'm not, I'm not dates person If you know me well enough, you know, I don't know shit about dates. Um, but, but then we, we did everything a little backwards though. We, like, we started dating. I already had a kid, we like moved in together. Yeah, you went to school. We got engaged. then we got pregnant. Yeah. Well that was the rule that we had. Right? We sat down with accident.
That was not an accident. Yeah. She was not an accident. That was very well thought out. That was the the rule. We sat down, we had a big, long discussion, and they'd be like, all right. Um, I wanted a child. Carrie was like, I'm, I'll give you a child. That's fine. Uh, but it has to be within a certain time period. You know, our son was aging on a little bit. Mm-hmm. And so the rule. it has to be no more than five years apart for these kids. And I didn't wanna be older than 25. Right.
I basically told him, I'm like, you have until I turned 25 to impregnate me or not happen. This isn't happening. It's not happening. And the bigger reason Yes, was I didn't want the kids to be further apart in age, but I also didn't really wanna be pregnant. Period. Much less like extending that like much further on. Yeah, so 25 was absolutely perfect. You knocked me up February of 20 13, 20 12, which was a month before I turned 25, 20 15, something right there.
It was 2013 because she was born October, 2013. 13. But the important part, Is that you knocked me up a month before. It's fine. I love our daughter. If anyone knows, happys me, if anyone knows me. Um, I love to cut deadlines right to the very end. We call it procrastination, but Sure. Let's call it cutting deadlines. That's cute. You know, it's, it's a, it's a form you can church it up. Productivity, it's a form of productivity.
It's just adrenaline fueled to productivity, And, and if that is how you work best, hey, who am I to judge? So, um, but we ended up, that ended up making us engaged for like three years. Yes. Like we stayed engaged for a while. Yeah. Which, looking back I honestly really preferred. I, I really do hate when people are like, engaged, married. Like engagement can be the stepping stone. Yeah. Not the like, It doesn't need to be it. It can be whatever you want it to be.
True. Where true we were comfortable is ha is holding off under being married until 2015. Yeah. So we spent from 2012 to 2015 engaged. Having a good time, but And you were? Yeah, I was. So say you were in school and we had a little one and I was in school, we had kids like, fuck, there was just not time to get married at that point. And and you just wanted to rush either. Yeah. Neither of us saw ma like the ceremony of marriage being this big, like. Sacred tradition that had to be a thing.
Like we, like no, we love each other. We we're gonna spend the rest of our lives together. I mean, we had a beautiful wedding, but it wasn't this like traditional style, like everything has it be done a certain way. And I think that's what allowed us the freedom to have a two year old running around, running around the ceremony the entire time, playing in the blinds and flipping the curtains and screaming down the aisle. Yes, if you can, it was fine. If you can picture.
If you're seated and you're looking up at a bride and groom and there's curtains hanging down behind them that are like this beautiful, like gold color and just them just moving and swinging in the background, fucking child slipping around behind them as the officiant is like. Talking to us and having us read our vows and going through this, and you just hear giggles from people le watching.
I know because our daughter's in there just twirling and twisting around And can we also let the audience know that our wedding happened the very first time a hurricane had ever? Come the most like inland. Right. Ever in Texas. Ever In Texas was the day of our wedding. Our efficient almost didn't even make it to the wedding. It, it was, she had to beg and plead to let this officer through this like back street that was like flooded and she was like, you don't understand there's a wedding.
I have to be there. Yeah. Like I was receiving word with minutes to go before the ceremony. That was like your efficients not. Um, and because of these torrential reigns, we're not sure if she's going to make it. I mean, uh, half of our guest list didn't get to make it. We had people from Dallas, cuz again he had been chiropractic school. I had friends in school that were literally standing outside of the building. Oh my God. Looking. I remember that windows. Hi I remember that.
Were being married. Yep. And, but it was just, it, it was a beautiful wedding, but. and, and what do they say? Like, you bless a wedding when there's like rain when it rains. Oh, I have no idea what happened. What the hell do you do when there's a hurricane? Like we are the most blessed. Yeah, we did good. We are the luckiest, we had fun at this point.
Um, and, and so kind of moving forward our relationship at that point, I don't think either of us, um, knew that this is where it was going to end up. Right. But we were together, we were committed. You were going through school. I was doing my hairdresser thing, but I do think that it. After the wedding, after things kind of settled that we started to have a lot more sexual conversations, we started to open up a lot more. Yeah, we've always been a, a highly sexual couple.
We had, but we had not been a highly open couple, and I do believe that once we got married, We started to then open up to our wants and our needs and our fantasies. I think that's when I came out to you that I was bisexual for the first time. Yeah. Was when we were already married. Yeah, absolutely. It's because, I mean, we, one of the things we did enjoy doing is we didn't enjoy like, having fantasy conversations. Mm-hmm. but it all remained in that realm of this isn't fantasy. This is, yeah.
Just there fantasy. It wasn't a reality. It wasn't something that we were like, Hey, let's try this or try that. Let's, let's go buy these toys. Let's go. Mm-hmm. get this bondage set. Let's go explore all of the, that is definitely what opened our doors for sure is like, I think the first couple times we started going to sex shops together and those were just like random things. It was just like, Go in there and look around.
They've been sit in this restaurant drinking margaritas for the last like hour and a half on a date night. Mm-hmm. guilty. There's a sex shop next door, let's go walking. Let, yeah, let's, let's check it out. And I think my mindset first thing went for like outfits or like cute things. And then we started diving into toys and we started looking into those more. And my way was playing with them always. Like, I, if you do feel like you went in for, I did confides. Mm-hmm.
I went in like, how can we enhance our sex life in the bedroom? Just with the tools that are on the. Yeah. And we did, oh, that's, we really did. And then that's what started the conversations with our friends.
Like we wanted to share with them this new thing that we found, um, this like thing that we explored or this concept that we like, whatever, through our interactions and our communication, and a lot of people ask again, like the podcast and how it started, but really that's kind of how it started, was. And we've said this before, but talking to our friends, being the couple that inevitably, anytime that we were out or we were together, we talked about sex.
Yep. It, it, all, it with, without fail, we go sit down somewhere with friends and within minutes we're talking about like bedroom, um, just bedroom stuff. Yeah. We are, we are getting like questions, oh, well how do we do this? What about that? Uh, just we have fun. Always, always would shift over to sex. And that actually led me and you to have a deeper conversation about like, Hey, what has your history been like sexually? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Like what have been your experiences?
What, what is it that drives you towards sex and sexuality? And the same way it drives me towards sex and sexuality. Mm-hmm. Well, and the interesting thing was to see how similar we were. Yes. And we wouldn't, we didn't even know that UN until we were married. Exactly, and we started having those conversations. So we, I mean, we would talk all the time. At this point, we'd be like, Hey, did you do this growing up? Mm-hmm. me too.
Do like, oh, Grew up watching Real Sex on HBO O at 2:00 AM with your finger on the back button for the remote. So if your parents started to come in, you could switch it over to like it was a ball Disney channel or something. Yeah, yeah. That back button was a way better idea than what I did. I think just had on like the power button, you know, like turn it off. I was never awake. I was always like, I would set it to one channel, flip it over to hbo, and then just have my hand on the back.
So just in case Laura would come in, I'd be like, I'm watching. That's very smart. Was on the TV right now? Yeah, I just always did the whole, like I was just turning it off, you know, I'm going to bed. But for both of us, it was always, always the same. We were watching like real sex growing up. We were listening to Dr. Ruth growing up. We were, we were seeing all of these. sources where we were having people giving advice on sex, on sexuality, on relationships. Mm-hmm.
and Carrie, uh, the, the more, uh, idealistic person in this scenario started going to college for it whenever she was, whenever she was younger. It started being like a long time ago, I'm gonna be a sex counselor. That is what I wanted starting out. And her were even. Was like, started taking, you know, psychology classes. Mm-hmm. and, and sexuality classes. And the thing is, is in undergrad I took those same classes. I took psychology, I took human sexuality and sociology. Mm-hmm.
But it never occurred to me that that could be an actual career. it was always, oh, what occurred to me? That's all I, that's like, that's what I wanted, man. I was like, I'm gonna be a sex therapist. I remember telling, like teachers in high school and they were like, oh, that's great, okay. You know, but like, that's what, that's, that was one of my biggest goals. It's so funny. You like brought that up and I like completely forgotten. Um, yeah.
But yeah, I mean, I, I, I did, I had, I'd gone to school and that was my big goal is to be a, a sex therapist. That's what I wanted. And, and I think when I communicated that with you, um, if y'all have listened in the past, you understand that Casey, when he gets a topic in mind, and if it he doesn't know it, he's gonna find out really, really, really fast. And so you start diving in more into just the concept of, uh, of.
Sex talk and sex therapy and communication and, and opening up and yeah, it shifted your, your story shifted a perspective in me of being like, wait a minute. Mm-hmm. I didn't realize that you could do this for a living. that's a thing. Like, and my eyes were just like open and I was like, holy shit, why did I never think of that path?
Yeah. Because that's where, that's where a lot of my passion lies, is in sex and sexuality and discovering more about it is exploring these topics and learning how to communicate them to people and. I felt like dumbfounded cuz I was like, wait a minute, I didn't realize I could do this. Yeah. As a career, as a career choice. As a career path. So I have like carried a thing for my interest in, in actually turning it into something, uh, feasible as a, as a life path. So that's really cool.
So we have Carrie over here who, who went from, you know, call early college and doing mm-hmm. undergrad work to work towards sex therapy. But I will say, yeah, I was gonna say, if you don't know my. I was in school for counseling, uh, got knocked up. It's fine. Um, but I also have a, like a minor heart condition. So through the pregnancy I was actually asked to, uh, be removed from school. I had some like fainting is issues and, um, I got outta school. I, I wasn't in anything for a while.
I had my son circumstances changed to where I was then becoming a single mom versus, um, being able to go back to school. And so that's when I then decided to, uh, join into hair or go to cosmetology. Uh, so just to kind of like fill that little gap. I don't think that's something that I've ever. Disclosed, uh, or disclosed? Disclosed, dear God, I knew it. As soon as I said it. I was like, that's not correct. But you're getting better at it. You're getting, I, I know I recognized it.
One of our ongoing things is Carrie's ability to make up words all, all the time. Uh, to fit my narrative. I will make up any word and, and I will roll with it unless I correct myself. Some people are gonna second guess. Selves on, did I say it wrong? Other than this guy? Cuz he fucking hears everything but But yeah, just to kind of bridge that gap so people understand. Case I was gonna school for counting. That was a dream of mine.
Um, circumstances happened and then I went to cosmetology school instead. Mm-hmm. So when you and I had, you know, been married and we started having these conversations, it kind of like reignited this like passion that I had. Yeah. Um, and, and that was another big reason for this podcast. Now another thing, Um, I get kind of confused on like who we've told this to other people or who we've actually said on the podcast. Um, I originally wanna do a podcast for hair.
Yeah, that was my original plan. Um, but like, I love hair, I love it, but I was like, do I wanna do it all day and then talk about it as well? Like, I don't know, like I love the idea of a podcast and, and I do hair and I'm super passionate about it, but maybe that's not what I want my podcast to be about. And, and then, Our, you know, talks cuz we talk so much and I love that about us. That's when this came. Yeah. And that, I mean, that idea was shit. I'm pretty sure it was your idea.
Pretty sure that was your idea. Well, I appreciate the credit on that one. No, no. Honestly, it was all my idea. Yeah, because I, I'm solely responsible. It is me, everyone thank me. Thank case. No, but like I, when you're handing out the awards it goes to Casey first. I mean, everyone already says it's come with Casey and they're like, oh, it's cuz it's Casey. I'm like, no, it's Cuz it's Carrie and Casey. Yeah. And I'm like, Casey? Mm. Yeah, sure. And her, her name's first.
But the, that's, that's how I, that's how I spin it. I know it does say Casey, but if you think about our wedding hashtag, it was finally, finally Casey kc. And so I came up with the name, come with Casey. Um, and then we also do like the CW Casey. A lot of people that ask me, and they're like, your name's not in it's Casey's name. And I'm like, well, if you put our names, our two initials together, think it says Casey. If you just head one layer down little.
you can figure it out pretty quickly. Yeah. And it's, it's fine. It's whatever. Um, it's, you're not coming just with kc. Okay. Like he comes with me. You could be, you player card's. Right. You know, you could, but, but yeah. So, uh, after the like first initial concept of like, okay, we're gonna make a podcast, and, and then we really started diving into, um, more like you started joining, um, s a if you wanna talk about that. Yeah. I started, I started going through to get my certifi.
Uh, initially as sex educator and coach, and then move on towards sexual sexuality. Coun counselor. Mm-hmm. to be a sex therapist. Um, yeah, which comes a lot more studying. A lot more schooling, and a lot more money as well. And I'm gonna let you do that and I'm just gonna ride your coattail. Is that what that's called? Yes. I mean, we were talking about this last night, is that I, I am a lifelong. That's, that is me. I like studying. I like reading, I like learning. I like research.
I love the ever-evolving and shifting landscape that comes with research. And you can see how entertain you are from that conversation. But that's like what I like too. I'd rather eat dirt. I, I, but then I learn the stuff and then I go, all right, Carrie, let's talk about it. And I hear the stuff and then I. He reads it and then tells it to me and then I, and then I'm like, okay, perfect. Thank you for educating. She'll be like me on that.
She'll like, we'll be at home on a Sunday and she'll be walking by our study area and I'm like, Carrie, Carrie, this this article on about like he does on transgenderism and this, and come listen to this. Oh my god, you gotta hear this thing about circumcision. Oh my God, you gotta It's all the time. I'm like, just gimme the F. What are they called? Footnotes. The footnotes. The CliffNotes. The CliffNotes. Gimme those bottom of the page. That's what I was gonna say.
I was like, I don't think it's a footnote. I'm feel like I'm wrong. You want the cliff notes? Yeah. Trim the. You know, I don't need to hear all that. So, so I, I, I, I ingest the research, I digest the research, I interpret the research, and then we create our content based upon what we've curated, the information that we have, and of course our personal experiences. Yes, we are, as a married couple of 14 years, we have a lot of experience in fighting and arguing. Mm-hmm.
and this, and just being together and trying to figure out life and, I mean, and growing up together. We fucking grew up together. We started at 21. Yeah, that's whenever we started the, something like that. 21, 22, something like that. And, and now you just turned 35 old man. And, and the thing is how old, uh, we're not ti uh, 25. I'm 25. I'm 25, you know, uh, I'm 25 until I'm 40. All right. There you go. And, and every woman should understand that statement. You should.
I think you should own your age because you're beautiful the way that you are lame. So, oh, so hear that And that is how a married couple stays together. You compliment me and I install your compliments. Yes. Um, but we, we've been through the shit. Yeah. We have. Um, and, and it's not always been. We will, like, we've, we've had this discussion. We want to talk about some of that stuff on the podcast too. Uh, not to get it out from us, but to be able to help others be relatable.
Yeah. To help others walk through some of those same trails. Mm-hmm. to be able to be like, Hey, look, here's the shit that we went through that sucked, uh, that really sucked. Here's how we got through it. Here's how we healed from it. Mm-hmm. and here's how we came out the other side stronger. Yeah. I mean, imagine. Y'all kind of just heard a little bit, right? You heard that? I had a kid. We had a kid. And then you also heard that he was in chiropractic school.
Yeah. You're talking 30 credit hours every four months. I mean, how many years were you in chiropractic school? Four years. Four years of doctorate work and But you also had pre-req stuff. Yeah. So I mean, four years of undergrad, four years of doctorate work. when we had met, you had probably at that point, spent five years in school because you had to finish up some of your undergrad.
Yeah, there was a couple of, uh, couple of classes in order to achieve one of those, one of those degrees that I needed. Mm-hmm. I was like, hmm. So I had, yeah. So you, he was still finishing up a few of his stuff and then you started and you driving out to Dallas, leaving at 4:00 AM every day. Every day, and then not getting home until like 6, 7, 8. O'clock at night and I worked. It wasn't like, oh, I was at home waiting for you to get home. No, like I had a whole ass job.
We had two full ass kids and you were gone. And, and that was a big struggle for us. It always is. And it was leading to the greater good and we understood it. And, and I do feel like there was never a point in our relationship where we were like, we're not doing this. Yeah. But it definitely made it really, really hard. Oh yeah. To, and that's part of the growing up together, right? Like we didn't meet each other in our thirties with both of our degrees, and we just got to jumpstart into life.
No. Like we kind, grew, grew up. That's a good way. Like phenomenal. So much easier. So much easier. Whatever you That is not what we did. If you, if you, if you're like a, a dink couple, double income, no kids, like you've got it made dink. That's a thing. Never heard that. Can we be a dink? No, we can't go back. I wanna be a dink Double income. No kids. Damn. You've got it made at that point. Yeah, because.
Like, I, I don't wanna equate because everybody goes through their own trials and tribulations. Everybody deals with their own things. Um, from our perspective of young kids, with kids with careers, education, all that kind of stuff, it was a lot to handle at the time. Oftentimes it was overwhelming. Um, it led to some really, really great times. It also led to some really, really rough times. It did, uh, we've almost been broken before. Mm-hmm.
you know, we've almost split before we've had, and that's before and after. So there's tough times that we've been through. I need to have like a free shot of your face just there with like a little thinking darkness. Smile, friend I know. Seriously, I felt myself fading in that one. I was like, damn. But we have to It's true though. Talk about those things. Yeah, it's very true.
And, and I want people to realize how real we are as a couple, because that's the other thing that it's a little bit like misunderstood as, oh, we're in this podcast, we do the sex stuff. That means we have to be perfect and we, it's always been perfect and it's like, fuck no. The fact that it's not. The fact that we've had these struggles, like that's why we wanna do this because we've made it through. We've made it through a lot together, and we still have a lot of way to go.
We do, we we wanna be that couple that's in their eighties, like just shit talking to each other all the time. Still fucking, but still like, yeah, exactly. shit. Talking fucking whatever. We're just gonna do it all. I mean, why not? So here we are. Mm-hmm. like this. This is us. This is us trying to be as real as possible. And trying to give one of our viewers now, viewers, uh, and listeners, the opportunity to take something home, implement it into their relationship relat.
um, or wherever you may stand, you know, we are, we're a couple that loves to talk about, uh, monogamy. We talk about polyamory, we talk about closed relationships and open relationships equally. Mm-hmm. because everybody should have their own relationship structure. Um, we talk about everything under the sun when it comes to sex kink and how to take a step. From your vanilla existence, and we really, and that's our main goal is, is to step outside of what your norm is.
and how can you enhance that and how can you enhance that with your partner? And if y'all decide to, to incorporate more, great. We're not ever saying that you have to, but if you choose to, we hope that you come back as to us as a reference to be like, oh wait, okay. We are actually kind of getting to the point where maybe we do want to open up a little bit. We're gonna go back to that episode where they talk about Yes. Uh, opening up and, and we're gonna like take in some.
Keynote, uh, we wanna have anal. Okay, we're gonna go back to that episode where they talked about anal. Like that's really our main focus is to give you the tools that you need for your relationship to grow in the way that you want it to, not the way that ours grows, right? We don't give a shit if you're doing what we do, but we care about you having sex. Yes. And, and we have sex. We do. We have a lot and, and we have a lot of fun. And if we can help you have fun with your.
that, that to me is my, my purpose. Yeah. That's my reason because I hear so too often, again, y'all fucking know I'm a hairdresser and I talk to women all day and I get to hear those complaints, which has allowed me to one, respect my partner a little bit more. Yeah. Or maybe even have a little bit more appreciation. Right. But to also be like, if I can talk to these clients and help them in like these, like micro conversations, then how can we, as a couple, right.
all of our viewers and our, and, and all of our, our listeners. And that's probably my biggest why. And, and then other than the fact that this has kept us close, this has kept us growing. This has kept us figuring things out together, learning new stuff together. I mean, it's not just about, um, what can you gain for yourself, but what can you gain with your partner? Yeah. One of the biggest things that I, I love about it, uh, we were talking about this yesterday too, is.
access, it's given us into various social circles. Um, me growing up as, as more of an introvert and then being forced to become a little more extroverted through owning a business. Yeah. Has, um, you were kind of forced into that one a little bit, A little bit. Yeah. So my guess, my point being is that now we have access to all of these circles through things like the sexual health alliance mm-hmm. and through things like some of the friends that we meet out and about.
And in doing that, we're able to. Learn more, observe more, uh, collect more information and become part of something bigger than us. And we want to give you access to that. We want to be that bridge to where you can have your world and you can learn more about ours. Mm-hmm. In fact, one of the other things that we've talked about has been if you're going to be in a relationship and you're going to learn how. How to open up a little bit more.
One of the best things that you can do is increase your social circles hundred percent into the area where you have interest in. So if you're interested and more kink, go out and seek out kink classes or workshops or just socially. like social circles, that, that people are into kink. If you're into opening up your relationship a little bit and you are just trying to maybe observe it first and see how those dynamic works, I can find a place where people are open-minded about it. Mm-hmm.
and just go, you're, it's, it's not the stereotypical thing where people are like, well, if I go around a swinger, they're gonna wanna fuck me. Like that's, I mean, even though that works, you, you've heard us talk about this before, even though as far as downloading those apps. Yeah. Like, those apps have helped us a lot to get. App, we're talking to this person and, and, and we're gonna fuck this person. Yeah. That is not at all what it's about. It, it's so far it's only been in relationships.
Yeah. It's been like a like, and, and like, friends, you guys are cool. Let's be friends. Yeah. I don't think there's been a single person on that app that we're like, fucking them tonight. Like, we have never done that. But we have used it to, Hey, you wanna meet up and, and let's have a social hour and let's talk and let's converse. Tell me about your life. Like it doesn't have to be, so you're on this, this is what has to happen. You get to make the own your own rules with your relationship.
Yeah. Y'all are the ones creating those rules. We are not kids anymore. We don't have adults telling us what to do. We are the adults. We can do whatever and fail to realize that yes, like do whatever the fuck you want. With. A lot of times you've been put into a box or you've had these expectations about what your, your relationship, your marriage mm-hmm. what it's all supposed to be like, and you just try to stick to that and then you feel uncomfortable.
If there's even a suggestion of moving outside of, that's something would move away from that, that norm, but understand that one of our biggest core philosophies is that there's no fucking. No, normal doesn't exist. It shouldn't. And it doesn't. We're we're past that. Like it's time to evolve. Get with the times. Yeah. There is no normal, so keep flipping. I, yeah. I don't know if this is gonna do this for our owners. Our owners. Swear to God to me. No, I do not have an owner. I my own owner.
Thank you. Oh, um, I meant our viewers. I don't know why the fuck I said owners. That's so weird. But this is us. Yeah, I've been talking a lot. This has been a lot. But this. Actually went better. Way better than I even thought in my head. I just, I, I wanted to share this with y'all, and I feel like it's the most raw for us to not only share our story, but share our story when we are live, not live, but when we're on video.
Yeah. You know, you can see that I am super serial about what I'm saying. You can see our cute little, like toys in the background. I love this. Uh, Casey did all of this. Yeah. By the way. I said, well, we, I had a friend come over and she kind of helped with like a little bit of layout, but for the most part case, Casey did all of this. This is not a fake background. This is a real. Background. We, we looked at some of 'em and we were like, we didn't even have to do the brick.
We could have just done, we just done a virtual, we could just done a virtual brick. But no, like I, we, we wanted something that, that at least, at least spoke to our audience about who we are and what we stand for. Yeah, so we obviously stand for some really good fucking sex that involves a lot of exploration. We got paddles, we got This is what's gonna be fun. We will be bringing you plenty of episodes diving. The best practices. I'm sorry I didn't give consent before I did that. You did not.
I did not get consent. Can I hit you one more time? No. Oh yeah. Consent revoked from that So this is season two, episode one of case come with Casey, I think I'm gonna call it. Allow me to reintroduce myself. so you're gonna get lots. Last thing I'll say about season two is that we're gonna be having interviews introduced this season. You're gonna be getting video introduced, video interviews, a lot of interviews.
We're so damn excited about this and you have worked very hard to like instill all those and get those set up and it's fucking awesome. I'm so excited. This is, we have, we have lineups from, from college professors, from PhD. From experts in their field, from relationship coaches and to sex workers. I mean sex workers. Mm. Uh, we've got a lot of, we've got a lot of tricks up our sleeve coming on this, this season of Come with Casey. So thank you for listening.
Thank you for viewing and uh, stay tuned. We got so much shit for y'all. We'll see you next time.