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We saw Nick Scarpino for a second. Yeah, no, it wasn't. It was a weird pin. Yo, what's up, welcome to kind of Funny Games Daily for Tuesday, November 19th, 2024. I'm on your host, Blessing, Adi, Agin, you're enjoying. Bye, the little croit poppy Tim.
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I'm not going to step it up. Step it up. Step Mike. But also it's crazy because right before the show Mike sounded like he's like a NASA like operator. Yeah, he's like data coming through. And coming transmission data coming through. All right, sending off three to my wife is are you watching a show? Love it. I love it. That's the energy I need on this beautiful Tuesday. Beautiful, beautiful Tuesday. Tim, how are you doing? I'm doing great.
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It's time for some news. We have five stories today. A bankers doesn't know Mike. What was the inspiration behind that? You know, that was pure panic as I. I like that. It was a little bit of a b-bop. You know, it was more of a jiggle. It's like you do. So I would try respect. Let's start off with story number one. Sony is in talks to buy media powerhouse behind Eldenering. I'm pulling from a near bond send and Sam noose at Reuters when I first read this headline this morning.
I jumped to it being bad dynamco, which I know is wrong because they just published the game. But my first thought was like is Sony because it's Sony not PlayStation is Sony trying to require band I am co and I started going down this whole.
I also make a lot of in my mind and I was like oh my god literally was in the shower just read the headline didn't read the article. I'll think this all through like okay I get how this could make sense why they want to do it and then when I got out I looked at my phone.
I was like why did I just do that entire exercise I had so many thoughts that's best like when you wake up you look at a headline or you look at yeah you look at a headline and you're like oh that's going to be the main topic of K. So you're in the shower you're on the shower thinking about the thoughts. Think about the takes like you're forming opinions and then you come out and you're like all right I'm ready to go that sucks that all that goes just
out the way. No a lot of it would be applicable because I think in a lot of the ways the ways the reasons why you would buy band I am co some of the reasons to why you would buy
Kata Kawa so let's get into it. Sony is in talks to acquire Kata Kawa the Japanese media powerhouse behind the Elden Ring game two sources familiar with the matter said as the technology giant looks to add to its entertainment portfolio the talks between the two sides are ongoing and it's successful a deal could be signed in the coming weeks the sources said Sony declined to comment Kata Kawa said it cannot comment.
Sony already has a 2% stake in Kata Kawa and a stake in Kata Kawa controlled from software the developer of Elden Ring which has sold 25 million units and has been widely praised. Kata Kawa began as a publisher in 1945 but has expanded into games anime events and figures with franchises such as Rie Zero.
In which a teenage boy summoned to a fantasy world other franchises include delicious in dungeon a manga series adapted into anime about adventures exploring dungeons and eating monsters they encounter Tim. Yes some big news. It is man this is real big news we can no transitions yet we're just getting started here.
But yeah no this so it's maybe because again this is Sony this is not PlayStation it would then have a lot of change to PlayStation it would affect PlayStation greatly if this were to happen in addition to some of the things you're talking about this also includes a choir who are the team behind ten shoe way the samurai and octopath traveler there were the code developers on that most recently it was just revealed did Mario Luigi brothers ship
with the as a collaboration with Nintendo also got you got your games RPG maker and then like you were saying the spike chun chun soft who makes the rain code and batches last cry share the water. Yes exactly so that all makes sense you bringing up the re series I feel as well that's where the real conversation starts for me where I feel like this is definitely a move for Sony when you think of Sony pictures and how they've been acquiring different anime companies
and just the investments they've been making in recent years the way big a big hold in that space right owning I believe both crunchy roll and animation yes yes exactly and with that Sony doesn't have its own streaming service right Sony strategy has been let's put our movies out on other streaming services and make deals with them that's why we see a lot of Sony movies eventually end up on Netflix and then transition over to Disney plus
they're kind of triple dipping in a way instead of investing in their own platform how do we get as much money for a spider man movie as possible for example and kind of like put it through the car wash of all of that them investing so much in anime brands clearly shows that they see the value there but then I also think taking all of that and being able to put it in other places is a very smart call for them and the crunchy roll side of things is the
closest thing they have to a content streaming service like that yeah this is fastening because to what we're talking about on the anime side and like the Sony side of you know why catacombo would be a good fit for them it's almost equivalent and pretty much equivalent on the gaming side as well this is one of those ones where in all preferences by saying we're talking about an acquisition we've been through this before where you know obviously there are business
applications to acquisitions that are bad like if this goes through there will be bad news there's going to be bad news there will be layoffs like all the stuff that we said about previous acquisitions when it comes to Xbox and Activision when it comes to all these different things of course not the same size as
Activision but by every single time we say oh this is bad this like if this happens then there will be layoffs and closures and then every single time that has happened so so that will happen here I will also say what is true though is that that is that this particular
version does bring me back to I think other recent acquisitions we've seen from PlayStation I guess insomniac isn't as recent as it feels like anymore like when insomniac happened that felt like a oh I could see I could see your plan here like I could see the vision here like this is a fit
right absolutely I mean that felt way more like a second party going first party like even though there are one of their most recent games was an Xbox exclusive sunset overdrive for sure and to some extent right like both on the anime side and on the gaming side
Catacawa is kind of a perfect fit when you're talking about what your plan is as PlayStation or I have Sony I should say right on the Sony business side you look at what Catacawa is doing with manga with anime and you're like yes we have a place for this this is going to help bolster and strengthen this side of our business that we obviously are trying to go for and care about and like you know want to continue to build and
make these things on the gaming side from software I think is probably up there as like the best acquisition you can probably make as PlayStation when you're talking about like what that adds to your portfolio and when you're also talking about what you can probably afford right like I don't expect places PlayStation to buy rock star for example yeah like I don't go for it.
This is where this gets very interesting because let's take all the the anime conversation out of it let's just focus on the video game side of things because you saying from software is the best company game developer the PlayStation can acquire and you say that backed up with a lot of evidence of money of critical success of back to back to back to back titles you know your audience loves this yeah there's a lineage here that is
PlayStation talk about Demon's Souls and you want to talk about blood blood for sure people have like a direct say in hey let's maybe make more bloodboard or let's remaster or remake a bloodboard yeah and so you look at all of that there's obvious success there but even their ability to put out something like armored core six that was you know obviously it's the sixth title of the franchise so that means that there's going to be fans of that franchise but I feel like it oh yeah
exactly there we go yeah it coming out was definitely like a oh well they're trying something different like this is not just another souls game we know that they can knock those out of the park and they have in different franchises in different variations of saccharine being a little more fast paced and you know bloodboard being different enough from the actual souls titles but
it's more being a different totally different type of thing and another hit right so big hit after hit after hit and we're just looking if we see the from software logo pop up on a trailer we're expecting greatness at this point both sales wise and critically PlayStation obviously would want that but with from software I mean the numbers were talking about Elden ring sales you know shadow the
lot of conversation about that in the last couple days with the game of the year nomination for the expansion the expansion loads over five million copies right so I feel like while yes Sony might be looking at and having it make sense I also look at PlayStation's exclusive score in its titles recently and how even those final fantasy fucking seven rebirth and final fantasy sixteen the first like proper numbered final fantasy sequel in years and they don't
me sales expectations because they're stuck on PlayStation oh I one thousand percent agree with you right like I think if I'm taking my statement further I think this would be maybe the best choice for PlayStation as an organization I think this would be bad for from software and maybe even bad for the industry see what I'm bringing up is like I don't know if it's the best move for PlayStation because because what if PlayStation were to acquire them and then the sales of those games not
because they're limited to just PlayStation consoles what if they were final fantasy seven rebirth levels then all of a sudden is that a success you know are you making the amount of money that they need to after already investing to acquire this company when they could have just put published the game on their console and made money that way and then the game also
selling on on Xbox and PC's a little bit of a you know gray area at this point when it comes to PlayStation but like do you see the point that I'm making I see the point that you're making I think it's an extra in interesting exercise to talk about because I think when you're talking about IP in 2024 and developers and studios in 2024 and like their power to sell both
software and I guess in this case right sell consoles while you're also selling software at the same time I think when we're talking about Elden ring there is more sales potential there than if we're talking about a new final fantasy yeah I think final fantasy doesn't have I don't want to say it doesn't have the same strength as it did before but I guess the space is different that's
it yeah you're absolutely right I mean I think it you'd be insane to argue that Elden ring doesn't have more viability I think it pretty much any way you look at that I think if Elden ring that final fantasy at this point a PlayStation exclusive Elden ring to would be such a boost for a PlayStation right like for me you put that in the same conversation to put any of the other like you know top tier PlayStation first party IP's right when you put that in the same conversation as a
Spider-Man maybe even like a God of War a horizon right like I think a Elden ring or a blood borne or honestly like any major like big game that you're pushing from from software I think armored court might be on like the lower end as far as that I'm talking about like the main titles like an
Elden ring I think that does so much for the PlayStation ecosystem and does so much for people being like oh this is another reason why I need to own a PlayStation yeah I have the Elden ring games there yeah need to own it absolutely I just I wonder we won't know until if
unless that actually happens because I would just say that looking at the the final fantasy stuff in hindsight like it is surprising that those games are not selling as a PlayStation exclusives you get me saying yeah you feel like
like is that because final fantasy just doesn't have the stuff anymore but I mean like what's the stuff though right like that's the thing is like they're the critically beloved games yeah right like and there's obviously clear legacy especially with seven specifically that we're talking about
of like how people to this day are buying the merchants so into the the world and fandom of it like you're right up saying like does they have the stuff yes it has the stuff just the stuff it has is compared to different things these things right but I do think that with Elden ring I don't know it's just this this to me I feel like gets very interesting where I can't imagine it not being multi-platform I just feel like like that would be such a major hit against it for its success
interesting I could see it being the the tier thing that we've talked about ready with PlayStation PC where a game comes out day and day on PlayStation a year later we get the PC version I could see that being the a year later we get the PC and Xbox
version yeah but like how much of a cut do you think like let's talk about Elden ring right man I wish those I don't think the stats are out there because I don't think they announce it in the way of sales per platform but if you're to if you're to guess him how many copies of Elden ring if we're talking about 25 million overall how many copies do you think so on PlayStation versus PC versus Xbox God you know such a hard it is it is and what's wild is I I'm just going to say this with the
prefacing it that like I it was a tweet that I saw yesterday that I can't even remember where I saw it so I don't even know where this information is from and it could be completely wrong yeah but I saw a tweet that was breaking down the app comes games of the last year did you see this no games in the last year break down by system it sold on a PlayStation Nintendo Xbox PC and PlayStation was just wiping the floor with everyone else yeah like which is
kind of where I'm driving at this is like how much of those Xbox sales really matter right if it is you are selling let's say 15 million copies on a PlayStation a year later you sell 5 million copies on a PC right and like all those last 5 million copies you could have sold on Xbox but like all right we're going to say goodbye to 5 million copies we still sold 20 million and also we're selling the PlayStation console in the PlayStation ecosystem
to a lot more people right like those are just numbers on throwin out there and the right for sure for sure but like as far as I understand when you're talking about games that are selling right now on on on the consoles PlayStation seemingly I would imagine is the like big line here yeah by far yeah I agree but then this all just goes back to and I get that I'm making points here to feel a little bit like wobbly but like I keep going back to the Final Fantasy thing just because I'm like
well what are you really gaining from that when you already have it now they're already posting or publishing the games on PlayStation and it's already selling like with the majority on your platform like it almost just seems like but again then you go back to will they're not just doing it for software they're not just acquiring the game site there are right this is also just a major plus to that which all of a sudden that makes
a lot more sense to me and there's also the question the conversation of if Sony does acquire catacawa does from software be it are they naturally brought into PlayStation studios or does that even become a conversation right in the same way that when they acquired bungee there's a little bit of
separation between church and state a little bit bungee was still making third party stuff right like I think they still call themselves PlayStation studios this is like a there's definitely a kind of thing that comms that you're wrong not clear where exactly remember they were under Sony yeah
not under PlayStation now is like the the weird thing there but like are they under PlayStation now though well yeah because remember there was like recent shake ups where essentially like PlayStation paraphrasing here PlayStation is like y'all fucked up yeah we're gonna do in this shit anymore I wonder if at first like if there's where to go through I wonder if he get it started off to where from software still exists as
its own and see within Sony but they're not PlayStation studios I don't see I don't think that ever happens again you don't think I think the bungee thing was a I think no matter what it's inevitable that that
from software gets brought under PlayStation studios you PlayStation wants that badly where you think that this happens this deal actually goes through and then it all happens is that we say it's inevitable I'm saying that if if if if if this deal have 100% no one would do that I also think
that is this deal is likely well let's talk about the PlayStation studios side because I I believe that the bungee thing was a one one off attempt and the idea was okay we're gonna not have them technically be a PlayStation studio because this is an infrastructure play they have the games
of service live service the infrastructure for that we want to apply that to last of us factions whatever we want to apply that to hell divers and all the other games concord and whatever here we are now with the beauty of hindsight we're able to look back
and be like I don't think they're ever going to do that again if they acquire another game company it's a PlayStation studio I think that's going to happen specifically someone big like from now let's talk about do we think this actually happens I want to bring in some
super chats regarding this I'm sorry it was street shadow that says not sure if he brought this up but I think there was news of Kata Kawa is at risk of having a hostile takeover from a South Korean company and they want to remain Japanese and then there's
also another one from Sharper Eye who writes in and says we have to remember this isn't just about games Kata Kawa is like three infinity stones for greater Sony from soft is kind of a small bonus so coming into this of does this actually happen right I don't
this is me speaking as somebody who I do not I'm Kata Kawa is not a company that I've been paying close attention to it's like you know how their business operations so yeah yeah like a hostile takeover maybe happening from a South Korean company not sure about that I can't speak on that like maybe that has a big impact on you know if or does this happen I do think that this is such a deal for Sony and I'm sure PlayStation like the higher ups of PlayStation have been talking with the other
higher ups at Sony as as far as like yeah we want from software I'm sure they're looking they're looking back and like yeah we also want that anime the anime and manga stuff the entertainment stuff that they're doing over there I think that there is a united front
at Sony that's like we got to make this happen because they're such a perfect fit perfect fit especially on the game I guess on both sides right maybe equivalently right like the game stuff the from soft stuff I think is so valuable for Sony and I think I think partly that's why like we've seen them be careful as far as we've not seen the like a bloodboard remaster remake I wonder if that's them being like hey dude we want to keep this relationship as kosher as possible like we want to like
maintain what this relationship is because we want like we want to buy them that's where I'm at yeah man that it's very interesting them the idea of them wanting to buy them obviously like if you want the the biggest player the game game of the year contenders that we're talking about you're gonna want that I really struggle to see a future where from soft is owned by PlayStation like really and and look I want to struggle to see a future where Microsoft owns activists and so
and that's that's the other bullet point that I wanted to bring in here is the fact that I think as PlayStation I'm surprised up until now the acquisitions have felt smaller from PlayStation since the Xbox Activision thing right like they've acquired Haven Studios um bungee bungee was that I before but I mean still yeah in recent acquisitions I would say yes but I think like I I think this would be the like okay we got to fight back like we got to do something and I
think I think from soft in Catacawa but for the gaming side let's talk about from soft I think from soft would be a good all right we're fighting back a little bit obviously there's not they're not Activision they're not the size of Activision they're not making that same amount of money but as far as what you're building with PlayStation they are like the most PlayStationie there's a conversation I was having a Greg last Friday on the plate grading PlayStation
2020 four conversation right and one of the things we talked about were the PlayStation Studios titles that they published that were like third party so we're talking about Rise of the Ronan and we're talking about Star of the Blade and one of the things I brought up in regards to that is that I feel like Rise of the Ronan came under the line of what I would say is like the quality that I would say is PlayStation Studios right like I played Rise of the Ronan
I'm like this doesn't feel like a PlayStation Studios game and I feel like there's a standard there I feel like Star of the Blade was kind of like on the line right I feel like when you're talking about what you seek out as PlayStation after a year that's kind of been a dud year for PlayStation of course we got Astrobot of course we got in hell I was to but I think it's not it's not like a God of War year it's not been like a horizon or like a Death Stranding year
there's the comments from PlayStation recently from the organization talking about hey we want to go back to having a hit every year like we want to make sure that we're having those big PlayStation games coming out every year I think this would be such a key aspect in that as well right hey we got to fight back with this acquisition stuff like we got to make our own moves and then also hey we got to maintain this library games are getting bigger games getting
tougher to make games are getting more expensive we need some firepower I think from software is that firepower I mean you're making good points I just I struggle to see it because I just don't know that first up I don't know that that PlayStation has the the money like that Sony is different but even then Sony versus Microsoft Microsoft has different abilities because of just like the banks that they can just put reach their hands into and throw money at
problems the fighting back I almost really they don't need to do that because they're just winning so clearly they're already selling droves and droves more than place than a Microsoft and when we're talking about even third party games that are multi-platform but then when there are
exclusive things that are they're they're making the deals and then also just play stations it's Lucifer you're talking about that obviously they want to get back to having those come out as frequently as possible I don't know how possible that is though right so yeah then having to fill it in it's just it is weird because it's like all right they did they had exclusive games this year in the form of Final Fantasy 7 rebirth but like we don't look at that as a
PlayStation Studios title because it's not a PlayStation Studios title yeah it is an exclusive so what actually matters here like because I feel like the your point of them like filling in the gaps it's like well they already have the from software games coming out and the thing that I go back to is bloodborne like they had bloodborne as a PlayStation exclusive from from software and that was a mega hit for PlayStation and for from software so yeah I want to
bring in some more super chat CJ splits and writes in says Sony owns 13% of from software already there's no way they wouldn't be brought into SI off the topic but I'll bring it anyway Zagiri and writes in says question for Tim my roommate has the PS5 and uses the basic controller his birthday is coming up so should I get him the edge controller or something else he's into shooting games much love I mean I I love love love the edge controller my only thing is
if he's into shooting games I'm not the guy to answer the question I feel like Mike you got a controller recommendations for shooting games on a PlayStation this is interesting because Mike doesn't even like to do since yeah this is a
great question coming in my best friend Andy Cortez would lead you towards these scuff controllers for PlayStation they have four backpattles he really likes the durability of the scuff controller I haven't been able to hold the edge but I would say if you are looking for a good first-person shooter
controller it would either be the edge or you'd go with the company like scuff the more backpattles the better it's the future of gaming I'm somebody who also I love the the dual sense edge I'll say I get the dual sense edge I think I've not played as many shooters with it but I can't imagine why it wouldn't be like it has the backpattles like you're talking about it's also quality these is my favorite controller period yeah like hard to stop not even close
and then I have another one first know Mike this is from Chris rock 90 what's the one piece update got my wife to almost a thousand episodes Jesus and that's been doing all the office that's been doing that's been doing all the office Chris rock please allow me to come join you and your wife in this incredible relationship because I'm still in that episode 475 Tim we're Marine Ford we are here to save Loufie's brother Ace and it is a beautiful tough story right now
there's gonna be some big moments for me you're not here enough over there I'm in I'm in a I'm in a difficult spot bless I need I need someone there Kevin A. Sex hasn't been around lately so I'm just I'm at a brick wall with one piece I'll be back soon I've written for my boy Ed yeah Ace
A. Ace Ace you're talking about a real anime it's called Don Don it's so good sex grandma it's great turbo granny turbo granny character of the year character of the year everyone's the first one you get to this character an episode one first line she says I can't repeat it on this podcast I'll
crazy it is good for you turbo granny and then I'll just do one more from CJ bliss and it says is Sekiro officially a sad dad game I mean I can't do was oh yeah I guess there was like we're not weird but like sad dad stuff a little
bit in in Sekiro right Mike do you remember the story of Sekiro yes I do remember the story there's a sad dad with a the owl yes yes there's some sad dads and also like his relationship with the kid you could kind of put that as like dad material right there he's kind of the guardian of that young
child so you can kind of say that he's like a dad to him here you go just say you know stay alongside the last lessons and God of Wars of the world yeah Tim do you have anything more to say about the story no I mean it's just like that was good conversation yeah we'll stay stay on top of it I'm sure more will come from this like this is what was the source of it again this is Reuters yeah which I mean all right that's like real real shit that's real real shit
and they say I mean if successful a deal could be signed in the coming weeks that's insane and so we might be hearing about this like maybe before game awards oh you'd be crazy if Jeff Keely came out and like reveal the From Software Cross-Playing Station logo oh my God God you know they could not handle that they would be so upset oh dude yeah the internet would implode we're gonna talk about story number two but before we do I'm gonna talk to you about patreon.com
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I like a good time control to will be an action RPG this is from a true officer at the verge this is a great time for the story to come in based on the conversation being mic had yesterday we already knew that the supernatural thriller control was
getting a sequel but now remedy has provided some more details on the game well one major detail control to be an action RPG seemingly deviating from the action adventure template set by the original the news came during an investor's presentation in which the studio revealed a few
other tidbits about its franchises I'll make two has sold over one point eight million copies the ultimate edition of control hits Mac on February 12th and it'll also be getting a free update of some kind next year that will unlock
previously released content a large part of the presentation was devoted to remedies ambitious plan to build out an interconnected universe which will span not only game franchises like control and I'll wake but also film and TV earlier this year the studio announced a partnership with Annaperna to
explore bringing its franchises to new mediums and today creative director Sam Lake said that the process is still in its very early steps last month remedy also revealed fbc colon fire break its first multiplayer game which is tied to its other games Tim an action RPG yeah yeah find it for me well here's the thing I think the first part that like pops out to me is the one point eight million copies of all away to sold yeah that is less than I would have expected
not by a long shot but it is less I would have I honestly at this point what a year I would have I would have guessed like 2.5 million 2.5 3s kind of where I was thinking so it's like okay but I mean sounds like they're still investing very heavily at all of this so it's not like they look at it as a failure in any way so I guess that is good news this isn't the square type of situation that has been like no I'm not in the expectation we wanted to sell
10 million yeah but yeah control to being an action RPG all right I get where you're digging out here blast where it is like what's this even mean like how we define these genres genres are stupid genres are stupid across anything whether it's music TV movies games it's like we're all just trying to
bucket things just to try to have conversations but no one's ever going to agree on how these things are I'm also not super mad at because like I I think I haven't understand how sure you do I'm sure you do like it's you're just gonna you're gonna level up and have skill trees yeah maybe you're gonna be making show some like dialogue choices so is God of War 2018 an action RPG I mean you can yes it is guys it just is but like it doesn't matter what was that
adventure in it yeah there is but see that's the thing too like when you're talking about adventure and we don't need to go too far into this because I I'm gonna make you mad but like I wouldn't I I don't think I got a word is an action RPG I think it has RPG elements yeah I think it's an action
adventure game I mean God see this the thing about the adventure adventure when you're talking about it in terms of genre of video game it is very specifically referring to puzzles and the puzzle style of things of like the OG and pointing click adventure games so even adding action adventure it's just all of it just starts over time I think losing its meaning which again doesn't matter we're talking about an adventure game I'm talking about an action
adventure game okay which I don't think has to do with that I think it actually adventure is like you know puzzles in the way that God of War yeah does have puzzles in it but that's the exact same what you just said is why I could look at
things to be like yes it's an action RPG because the definition has changed over time true when I think action RPG my mind is now blank what do I think Kingdom Hearts Kingdom Hearts is an action RPG right I got where again I wouldn't agree I agree with it but I think modern days when I
think of action RPG I think two games right I think in Diablo in terms of how that's an action RPG and I think of Elden Ring oh my God we're so cooked yeah we're so fucked as a people which is why we need to find somebody to be the arbiter to be like hey you're in charge of figuring the shit out or we just don't we just talk about the games for what they do and based on how they play so specifically so look at this control to will be an action RPG I think this
makes a lot of sense because I can imagine what that's gonna be you take control and what would control look like if it was an action RPG okay you know you have some skill trees you have some skill trees yes I'm a school trees you know you know oh man my um oh fuck what's the name of the main
character that I can't think of right now don't tell me actually don't tell me it is jay jessie faden nailed it yeah you're right my jessie faden is level 24 and she has a gun that like you know goes all in on explosion abilities but you're like you're jessie faden you know you're shocking things she's shocking things yes kind of neat I said I was gonna be a joke but I kind of like oh yeah no but again it makes sense though because you don't think about it as
like shoving it into a genre that has to fit everything else that does it think about what that genre could mean for the game yeah so yeah so yeah it is those skill trees it is leveling up it is again maybe dialogue we'll see like you know I will I don't think I don't want from control to is I don't
want split like narratives I don't think that'll happen yeah I think they'll have any way more the RPG side of it is more about the the numbers and skills go up type stuff as opposed to the like oh you get to choose your own branch of story and like your consequences change things I don't think it's gonna be like that now I it's been a minute since I played control control already had skill trees right I never played control oh you ever played control you would like
control yeah I think you would like control I know why don't you play I don't know I don't know that's the ox me yeah Mike you played control I have not blessed so okay well yeah I'm pretty sure and he's the control like monster yeah
if you are saying that had guns skill trees and so maybe that stuff just becomes a bit more vital right yeah yeah it becomes a bit more like it matters more to the gameplay which I think makes sense right like for that game and for a sequel to that game like from everything I know about it and from
everything like looking at what remedies like building and what they're trying to do like I feel like that makes a lot of sense I feel like they're building a lot of faith in consumers to believe in this universe and I think Alan Wake 2 was a major step there like a couple of years ago when they first announced Alan Wake 2 I don't think any of us could have understood what it was actually gonna become you know it was kind of like oh they're actually making a
sequel that's unexpected you know like we all been waiting for it to be announced at some point like I've been asking for it yeah the fact that they actually gave it to us yeah okay okay but now I think we're in a totally different place like remedy people like Sam Lake is becoming like a entity that people know and are like excited and waiting on baited breath for what's next and so yeah I think that they the only says on them to keep delivering keep pushing things and I
feel like this is just like oh yeah we're gonna make this this very non-mainstream thing like Alan Wake 2 where it's like really like spooky and like subverting thoughts and all that stuff but then you have control that I do feel like has those elements but has that mainstream appeal so how do we make it even more appealing to gamers that want a different entry point into the remedy verse yeah I think in action RPGs the way yeah I can't wait to see the first
gameplay trailer to like see what they really mean by this because yeah I like the more I think about control one more I'm like I guess that has a lot of the elements are already put in there so I imagine that yeah those choices might matter a bit more for a hard-ebuilding or character which I think could be really cool right if my if I'm looking at my gameplay and I look at Greg's gameplay or Andy's gameplay and it looks completely different I'm like fuck I
should have done that right I want to make that chassis faded I think that that there's something that I could be very exciting um throw it up they used to call a creative time in action RPG just sit with that you know what I mean video-american's already confused we've been confused
for decades when it comes to all this stuff because like here's what I'll say breath of the wild here's the kingdom I'll say those are action RPGs I mean yeah I think they could be but I don't I wouldn't say acheriness I do not action RPG and that's by my own arbitrary yeah it is yeah yeah
like my for me it's it RPGs require some kind of leveling and like some kind of like you're building this character up you don't build up link you I'm knocking you items I guess like breath of the wild the fact that you unlocked the peterniks yeah you're well yeah but like you know you know what I'm
talking about you know I'm here and the numbers go up yeah in Zelda in tears the kingdom right in breath of the wild your numbers go up as far as like oh this will protect you more than yeah well yeah which is different than acherina I guess it is isn't I mean I don't know you're different like
tunics and stuff like change how much damage you take and like what type of like like elements and stuff can affect you whatever we don't you don't need to do this story number three the indie game awards announces it's nominees for game of the year 2024 this is Zoe Hannah at Polygon and a live stream Tuesday the inaugural indie game awards a new award show focused on creativity innovation in passion in the independent game space announced it's 2024 nominees for a
slate of awards including debut game bite-sized game solid development and of course game of the year the show is presented by col by collective 6 1 Indie which also puts on the 6 1 Indie showcase that highlights upcoming indie games according to the website the indie game awards nominees are selected by a panel of indie focused games industry professionals and media outlets though it says open submissions will be available for the second installment of the show
in 2025 the winners are selected by a diverse jury of judges that includes influencers and experts as well as journalists and industry pros naturally indie games featured in or indie games feature in the indie game awards nominations many of which address titles many of which address titles some
felt were missing from the game awards nominations that were announced on Monday the game of the game of the year nominees for the indie game awards look like this you got a thousand x resist just as for bear court in animal well arco ballot show crypt custodian custodian lower line laser eyes mouth
washing never nine souls and uf 0 50 those are the main and nine souls they go more bear court need yeah more bear court presentation of course this is a whole bunch of categories you can go find that stuff on i appalligan and other outlets that have it haven't listed i did pull in some categories
particular categories just that i like right they have women led game which is uh... gordlets key locker love ghosty mexico nineteen twenty one a deep slumber that's all one game mexico and nineteen twenty nightmare cart and the crimson diamond nightmare cart that's pretty cool that's
awesome uh... you also have solo development of the nominees are aerial nights we never yield hell yes shot aerial night uh... animal well children of the sun crypt custodian knuckle sain which and magical delicacy and then we have bite size game which is book shot roulette
click holding yeah duck detective the secret salami that's all one word and i think that the secret salami monami lane please touch the arc work to and thank goodness you're here all love that game fun stuff and i mean yeah thank you for pulling out these uh... categories because i do
things that's fun and i feel like you know coming up with categories that are a little bit different i think then kind of up can allow people to actually the do what's the point of a word is which is get awarded for specific things yet also for communities and audiences to
learn something new and like to to seek something out and maybe these are different like brands of things that they're looking for more of a bite sized games like that's appealing to me you know i mean women led games that can matter to use your
like all i want to support that i want to seek out these games that i might not have heard of like really really cool stuff and also just in the game awards i just love that this can also exist next to the game awards yet anyone can do an award show go for it
and i want to show flowers and get flowers do it and i love that like you know shout out to six one in the like you know they've been doing this for a while they've been they've uh... they were folks that you know came out of uh... confetti community right shout out to my town show shout out to
calcineson right shout out to everybody there uh... but for the fact that they've been able to build six one in the into something that i think it's so visible now and so big right i think it's so cool you know this is being
hosted i think you know by i gen dot com you have polygon reporting on it right like we've seen what they've been able to do with their indy game showcases that they do a pack of stuff right like this is what i love to see because it really is the hey we both this from the ground up the
air and the word that comes to me is important i think it is so important the work that they're doing and it shows that putting investment and time and work in resources into something like caring about indy game so much yet there's results
you know like they they put in the work over so many years at this point that yet they do their showcases that are always great they always uh... have so many awesome games that they even wrap in our head and us up about and then yeah doing something like this and having it feel like it there's
consequence to it i mean that's that is important it's important it's impressive and i think this proves that like there are people in the industry that like one at sea this kind of thing happened right there support for this type of content
like they don't a good job is going out there and doing it and like sustaining it and making it bigger and making happen so when you look at the game of the year nominees is there anything that sticks out to you is there anything that you're like all this this is the one
for me between it's between a thousand extra this in animal well oh fuck what's there right like i feel like that's that's the thing is like there's also awesome games here i mean all these like never is my pick just because i i love it so much but
uh... i i don't feel like enough people are are playing never for it to actually get winning love but hey it's dominated like being nominated like it's very important uh... for uh... these type of a work show so yeah that's great but yeah i mean i do feel like
these type of indy here's what i think it's important uh... the indy game awards uh... being run here by six one in the they're doing this in a very correct way in my opinion of getting a panel of indie focused games industry professionals media outlets to vote on this and to be a part of this
these are people who focus on this who have an expertise and understanding of all these games and it's not like kind of funny that are looking at this and are like okay we have played some of these games yeah but like for us to like vote in this or like talk about these things that's not a place necessarily some in some ways we can you know but i feel like overall we're getting real granular with it like me for the record i think we were reached out about this and then like the great came to me
and we looked at the nominees and we were like we've not played enough of these game that's what i could have heard that's right that's that type of conversation i think is important there is like you know the there's responsibility here editorally when you're you're voting for things
and doing things that's why it's like when you look at the game awards those work a very specific way and you have the breath of the different uh... panelists that are involved in voting and nominating and all that stuff it works differently then something like this that i feel like how
focused it is it requires more focus and more attention and it matters more in in the details right also shout out to the website because like it's a good website on my on the page that has the judges on it right uh... and although those are the very good on site we have six one in the of course uh... there's women led games latin american uh... games showcase you have wholesome game shout out wholesome games uh... the indian former of
course uh... uh... we have uh... i'd jins on their uh... the i'd you'd be a is on the spot on me giant bomb in max uh... but why though ash said hi who's the homie right you have no more on here as well like you have see say there really good uh... as i'm scrolling down on my own and this
are really good panel of judges for this uh... award show uh... and again like so many of them to have that focus and i think you have like a not really good variety of people here that are going to have a safe so yeah to your point right like they're doing this right there i think they're
making the right decisions as far as how they want to uh... you know run this and produce this also shadows balacho and animal and all the games on this i still need to play lower line the laser eyes but i digress story number four tim talk about pokemon
pokemon tcg pocket estimated to have made a hundred and twenty million dollars in three weeks for a lot of money uh... this is ryan dincedale at i'd n the free to play pokemon trading card game pocket is estimated to a surprise hundred and twenty million dollars in sales since it launched on
october thirty-a pocket gamer dot biz cited figures from app magic that estimated the digital card game hit a hundred million dollars uh... after seventeen days it is now across the hundred and twenty point eight million dollar line
pokemon tcg pocket is free to play but allows players to buy extra booster packs cosmetics and a monthly pass that awards one extra pack a day the app launched to immediate success with app magic estimating it was making three million dollars a day after hitting twelve million dollars
uh... after four but that number is already doubled with with daily player spend now totaling six point four million dollars a similar trend was seen per week as pokemon uh... tcg pocket was estimated to have earned thirty five point eight million dollars in his first week and forty eight point five million dollars in its minutes first week there must be second week right uh... five days into week three and pokemon tcg pocket has pulled in thirty seven point two million dollars and see
the numbers are crazy the boost over week over week one is perhaps due to more players picking up the game but also because as per mobile game design pokemon tcg pocket front loads of players with tax and cards and in cosmetics before reducing those rewards to a trickle
what mean just anecdotally my group thread uh... that i have with about ten guys on it started with one of my friends sending his friend code and i always we do with this and it warmed my heart because of my old i've already been on this shit like they already see my collection so i drop my
stuff over the last week every single person got it yeah it's just like everyone's in now and it's like all right cool there is just something that is so easy to get obsessed with pokemon trading card game pocket so i think the biggest thing out there is just like guard your wallets everybody be careful be careful and yeah don't overspend but also have a good time but i again i want to reiterate i have not put a single penny in since we were on the stream since he spent a hundred dollars since i
spent a hundred dollars yes yes yes yeah thank you thank you well i just i everyone keeps asking me like or everyone keeps acting like i'm like dropping fucking money on this thing every day i'm not can i be honest yeah i don't believe you because like how the fuck did i because i also i got the
hundred dollars yeah i was spending like a little bit of money before that yeah and i still and i've been open and packed consistently i still have the mute i still don't have i'm still yeah okay i'm still card is that how do you
get so much further is spreadsheets the answer spreadsheets i literally have been targeting cards and like looking for things and then i i use because you to get the mute you just need to get all hundred fifty pokemon the canto poke yeah yeah so i was just like when i looked at i
literally i keep spreadsheets of the cards i have and don't have and i was like cool i'm going to target the ones that are from the canto i don't need to get these other motherfuckers again you get them saying yeah and then i i literally i had a thing bless what i have a list i mean literally right now i can show you this one exactly right i have like in each of the packs i have like maybe four cards for like basic canto cards per pack that i've not gotten so i have a list now of
my needs and it's all right cool these are all the ones needed from the charizard pack Pikachu pack mu pack and these are the ones i need to available and all so i strategically my cool i most charizard so now i've been opening more charizard packs you get them saying yeah but this is my new
strat now to like getting on the specific things and not waste my shit but before then to get them you specifically i was like all right cool i know which pokemon i'm looking for so i would use my like pack points to buy those cards you could probably do it right now yeah you're
punk you're popping the pack points all right that make sense then i'm just saying something's fishy you know i mean something's fishy check keep it off this guy but yeah no legitimately i'm at the point now where like i yeah i am down to like four about four cards per pack that i'm still
looking for and i'm just opening and this is duped after duped after duped and i feel like i'm getting duped yeah i get it it's like do i need to spend more money because i'm not going to don't do it you don't need to just just hold out man trying tim it'll take some big big money
for me to get the cards that i'm looking for but if i want to something smaller say the timeiest news i need to know about where would i go you go to our last story the we news channel where we cover all the small news on us you need to know is that official or did we make that
that's official that's official maybe that's as we do story number five it's time for we news from a tomatown pokemon red thank you uh mike for doing the jingle pokemon red and green are no longer the top-selling pokemon games in Japan
as we're gonna buy game biz pokemon scarlet and violet overtook the record this year shifting over 8.3 million units in Japan alone as of November 18th that is so freaking wild we're i think yesterday was the two-year anniversary of scarlet and violet yeah um which is very very um
scary to me because that means it's the two-year anniversary me being re-obsessed with pokemon again as you can see with my my badges here um and the amount of money that i spend in pokemon go and now pokemon training card game both the actual card game and pocket um so
fuck you pokemon you can go die um but also love you poke yes i love you so much and yeah this is just wild and i i do you know looking at the numbers every time Nintendo puts out there they're quarterly like the fiscal results like you just see the pokemon uh switch games go
up and up and up and like i would not be surprised about the end of the day that it's not just Japan that that these numbers just hold it as well yeah what is it how much time oh we got time how how is it that pokemon scarlet in violet which are the most broken pokemon games to come out
are also somehow the most successful pokemon games to come out is it just this because also there were other pokemon games on switch that didn't do well as pokemon scarlet in violet well not as well but like the destiny is like soar and shield i might be wrong here i don't think
these numbers might change this but scarlet violet i don't think have overtaken sword and shield yet i think it's very close i got sales old sales have they i'm pretty i thought they did i could be wrong let me double check um but yeah i do know that like that we
still have like red blue and green and yellow are at the top spot so oh pokemon let's go uh but they had let's go i mean those feel more like spin-offs too and yeah they they those sold significantly less than Sword and Shield and the core new Gen games. But even then, there's still like, what, 15 million? There's something like, it's just insane numbers that we're talking about. Updated numbers. Oh, you're right. Yeah, Pokemon's Scarlet in Violet. It's like, they're like, maybe a million away.
Yeah, exactly. It's real close. So I do think that they're gonna eventually pop up above it, but I get it. Okay, I think that's a good, yeah, I didn't know that. I could have sworn that Pokemon Scarlet in Violet had overtaken it by now. No, it just had such a fast bike starting for a while. First three days it sold 10 million. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting like when Pokemon's all comes out, like what that looks like. Yeah, right.
Like the Legends games, I mean, they're similar, more similar, I'd say to the Let's Go games. That's our performance. Yeah, so we'll see. Amocrossing sold 46.45 million. That's freaking crazy. Dear Lord, Margarit Deluxe, it's a 24.27 million copies. And it was a port. It's essentially. Elden Ring sold 25 million. Yeah. Margarit Deluxe is crazy. Moving on, new Xbox game past games have been announced. Today you're getting Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024.
On November 20th, you're getting soccer too, hard of a Chernobyl, little kitty, big city, and played up. On November 26th, you're getting nine souls and on the 27th, you're getting aliens dark descent. Assassin's Creed Syndicate has finally received a 60 FPS update on Xbox Series X, PS5, and PS5 Pro. That is out now. Barrett Courtney is very happy because that is his favorite Assassin's Creed game. And also because he's been waiting forever for the 60 FPS update.
From VGC, the global theme park rights to Minecraft have been acquired by Merlin Entertainment's the group behind Alton Towers, Peppa Pig World, and Legoland. The first two attractions are planned to open an existing UK in the US. You want to go to Peppa Pig World? What is it that was going on in Peppa Pig World? You think they're going on? You think they're serving pork over there? Damn. Let's go over there and get some pork chops like, oh man, I love it here. That's fucked up.
The first two attractions are planned to open an existing UK and US Merlin park. I didn't know there are US Merlin parks. And it neither. It's opening up in 2026 and 2027. Chat, where are the Merlin parks? And do they have, oh, Legoland? Well, I guess Legoland would be a Merlin park then because if it's owned by them. Where's Legoland? So how? Also, we can go. We know Legoland. Oh, I want to lead to the Minecraft. Okay, good. Yeah, 2020 makes sense.
Next up, SIE has appointed Olivier Courte-Manche as his new head of mobile and Justin Kubiak as head of mobile business development and partnerships. Rod Ferguson says future Diablo 4 seasons will have content exclusive to vessel of hatred owners. F0X music is now available on Nintendo Store. So far, every week, new album dropping on Nintendo music. I would love them to do something like insane with Nintendo music. And just release a soundtrack for a game that's not even announced yet.
Whoa, that'd be sick. Yeah, like to Mario Odyssey 2, so I'm not gonna know where, but this is like the lead song or whatever. The jump up superstar game. I like that. Lower line, the laser eyes is set to launch for PS4 and PS5 on December 3rd. I was listening to jump up superstar the other day. Cause how's it going? And I'm like, man, wouldn't match the game. Mario, let's all just replay Mario Odyssey.
I know Rod, I mean, he's not here right now to do this, but I want him to break out our reaction to the Mario Odyssey trailer. Cause like us seeing a dinosaur with little Mario hat for the first time, it's like, what is this game? Yeah, dude, what is happening? So sick. But yeah, if I could like have a game that we all just play, like I can make the whole world just play over again. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, take two. Let's go. Let's run it back. Y2K IV drops on December 2nd, 2024.
It's a free update to Y2K, a postmodern RPG. And then lastly, Super Monkey Ball by Nana Rumble 2.0 update. Launches November 26th alongside Godzilla and Hot Today Meeku DLC. Cause why not? Just a bunch of buzz terms, but there you go. Buzz terms. Let me check to see if we have any super chats in here. Voice Dasha says, everyone worried about exclusives. It's Sony, not PlayStation, like Bungie. This is to bring more money and everything.
And this is to be more money and everything will remain multi. PS don't need more reasons to buy a console. They need overall money. I think there's not a chance you're right there. Yeah, no. I think if this goes from software, it goes to PlayStation. Yes. I think PlayStation wants to own from software. So if they can do it, they're going to try and do it. Zeke Speaks says, a rogue likes a genre. Metro-Advanias is Ori in the same category as Dead Cells. What about Zelda and God of War?
How the hell do we slice this pie? You're bringing up the exact points I always make. That's like, you can just describe the game by game, but to then compare the games against complicated. It's like, we're just trying our best to do something that is actually impossible. It doesn't make sense because we're just trying to bucket things that actively don't want to be bucketed. Because that makes them different is what makes them good.
If they're just doing the exact same thing, then it's like, all right, cool. What are we doing in this special here? There are certain genres that you can be like, without a shadow of a doubt. That's a 2D platformer. But then the moment that 2D platformer starts doing things just a little bit differently, it's no longer that. It's something else mixed with other genres. What did it just be its thing? I'm of the mind.
I think I come from a similar place, but also of the mind that there are games that are purely of a genre. There are games I look at and I'm like, oh, that's metroidvania, and this is what makes a metroidvania. Or that's like, for me, a rogue light typically isn't a metroidvania. I feel like those are two distinct things. That said, to your point, more and more games are blurring the lines. And that's not even a new thing, right? No. From back of the day. Forever.
Look at certain games on NES or SNES. And you're like, oh, this is a platformer, but it's also an action game. Like Mega Man. It's a platforming action game. I mean, when you look at Zelda 2, Adventures of Link on the NES. And it's like, all right, cool. It's drastically different than the first Zelda game. People would call the first Zelda game, action adventure, action RPG, I guess, maybe? I don't know. But Zelda 2, straight up. It's an RPG and it's a 2D platformer. They don't give a fuck.
Yeah. I think genre exists, obviously, but I also think that we have to be very lenient as far as trying to create hard lines because we're not going to be able to do it. Do your point, Tim? Yes. Thank you. Um, Zieg speak, I guess, wrote in earlier again. It says game genre is hard because we describe games both aesthetically and mechanically. Shooters can have skill trees. Fantasy games can be linear. Horror games can have choices. We need to pick a lane.
I do, here's the problem, is that I do love this conversation, though. I do like defining things a lot. Because here's the thing less. And here's the thing that I feel like people don't understand. It is fun to talk about this stuff. Yeah. Because it doesn't actually matter. And us trying to make it matter is the fun part. Like, what's the point of an award show? It's to have fun. It's just to honor things. So other things that we like.
And yeah, then there's business ramifications and all that stuff. Why the fuck do we care about that? Or we care about that? We can't just be like, oh, man, it has to be this way. But all game awards is just a giant commercial. Yes, it's a giant commercial. Even for the games winning awards. That's them, they're just being marketed. That's just marketing. I love it. I fucking love it here. But I am of the mind, let's see, ZXP care. We need to pick a lane.
Again, I think so many things can be multiple things. You can be fantasy and you can also be a shooter. You know what I mean? Oh, me and my thing is not blue screen, but it just went crashed. What else? Oh, no. But I think that's just the nature of video games. I'm somebody that often times when talk about genres, I like to go by defining things mechanically as opposed to defining games mechanically first and then by setting or whatever second.
So for example, I'd start off by calling something in RPG. And then if it's a horror RPG, for example, which sounds awesome, I don't think we have many of those, then horror would almost be the second thing that matters to it, because this is a video game. It's not a movie, it's not a TV show. But again, who cares? Yeah. Hold on, I'm still trying to get back to the Super Chat. It's an hour back. Mr. Nice Guy, Rye says, love the whole KF crew being all hands on deck for content.
And shout out to Roger for the PS5 review highlight video in all time moment for me. Hell yeah, I lost that last night. It's fun. Joey Radstone says, I vote for blessing as our genre arbiter. I did think about making a video, I said. Yeah. I did think about just creating a video where you sit and just talk about genres. Mike likes it. Mike's nodding his head. I like it. Don't pour it. Let's do it. My one of my favorite moments is like teaching Mike about what an RPG is.
I forget what show it was that was a page on, since it was a remember blank. Where it was one of those conversations where we were talking about a turn-based thing. And Mike's like, I don't see turn-basis as RPG. I looked at Mike and I was like, Mike, you just turned this into a whole conversation, because now we got to really break this down. So yeah, maybe one day. I would love for you to do that. And then I'd love to see the comments. Oh, yeah. No. Like I think it'd be a fun conversation.
I honestly, if people get pissed off, people get pissed off. But I think that conversation can be had in a way where people can be like, cool, I get that. I understand that. Here's the thing. You can disagree and still understand that. Absolutely. Look, to me, what's important is that there's consistency within an individual's understanding of the thing. And as long as that person can explain those consistencies, I feel like then we're cooking. Then we're in a good spot here.
But that's the problem is that when rules are set forward, and then people don't follow those rules, and then games get nominated a certain way, then everyone's all upset because the rules didn't fucking matter. It's like, well, it's because people didn't play the game correctly. People didn't fucking look at the words being said of what describes an action adventure, or an action RPG, based on the parameters that were set forth.
And it's like, cool, that's the mess that we're going to be in here. But as long as blessing knows what he thinks an action RPG is and explains that to you, so that when he is dominating his best action RPG, it all makes sense. But when I also just don't think action RPG and the best action, it should be the same thing. I just think it's too close, too confusing. I mean, I'm totally with you there. But it is. Actually, it's not. Action RPG is not even on the thing. Oh, sorry, not action RPG.
Sorry, action adventure. Actually, adventure, that's what I have to say. Yeah. Silly, it's dumbass words put together, in my opinion. Yeah. But those words are put together, and it's a category, and we vote for it. So strap in, y'all. Mike, I'm going to make that video for you. Just from Mike. And then I'm going to pull in one more from Aaron, who writes in and says, this potential catacombo acquisition would be fairly devastating for the anime field, both production and distribution.
Sony run Crunchyroll, Funimation, and write stuff have declined. Very Disney buying Fox. There you have it. Now it's time for kind of fun.com slash you're wrong. Where you write in, let us know what we got wrong. As we got wrong, certainly correct for those watching later on YouTube, and listening later on podcast services around the globe globe globe globe. Uh, let's see here.
Fusion says according to GSC data from June 2023, 41% of Elden Ring sales were PS4 and PS5, followed by 30% on Xbox and 29% on PC. That's not as runaway as I expected it to be. Yeah. But when you start talking about like, when you look at that proportion to the amount of copy sold, that's a lot. That's millions and millions. You know what I mean? OK, so when you're talking about PlayStation and PC, that's 70%. What's 70% of 25 million? I'm not going to do that math all the time.
It just looks at me and starts shaking his head. Let's just say conservatively. Let's say 16 million. All right. As if you acquire from software, would you say, would you be down to say goodbye to 9 million of those sales to keep it exclusive? I mean, again, the problem to me is the cost of acquiring. Where it's like, it just almost doesn't seem like it's possible for that to be worth it.
But in the context of Sony buying it with all the other things then you also get it, it makes a lot of sense. But yeah, I don't know that it's worth it acquiring. I really don't. Like the amount of money, we don't know the money. We don't know the cost associated. But like, the amount of billions, whatever they put down, it, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, from software plus that animation, that probably means you more to them.
If you can get from software is a nice plus, and you know how much that's going to bolster your game's business. Oh, you know? It's like, you know, you won't. It's like you're ultimate Donald's. Yeah. You're ultimate Donald's. And you're like, oh man, let me get the double quarter pounder. And they're like, oh, that also comes the big Mac. You down for that? I'd be like, fuck yeah, I'm down for that. They're all the big Mac up in there. Fuck, we're ballin'.
Like, that's what's happening right now. See, to me, I think it really comes down to the sheer math of why are you requiring when you already have the software on your system, and it's to sell hardware. Would it sell enough hardware to make that up? And my gut says the answer is no. That's where I'm at. Oh, so you don't think PlayStation is gonna sell enough consoles to sell stuff? To make it worth it to get the bonuses. When they're already selling that big of a percentage on their system.
And with PC being the other thing, Xbox being slimmer, it's like, I don't know, I don't know. I think it does. Yeah, I don't know if like, you can't really do the math on like, one for one, oh, is this game selling? Mm-hmm. I don't know, not milling consoles or what. That's not really the math that you can do.
But I do think you can look at your portfolio and your current plans as far as your year to year releases and go, we can bolster this up a little bit and maybe a lot of it based on if you get from software. Like, all right, cool. Maybe once they're pricier, you might get a God of War or Spider-Man or like whatever it is, right? But you might have a year like, like 2024 where it is. All right, we have like a smaller quality game in like, Astrobot and then you have like a Final Faces on Rebirth.
But what if you can also have an Elden Ray? Yeah, here's my trade of thought on this. I feel like there's no world in which PlayStation Studios acquires from software. I do think there's a world in which Sony acquires. Catacawa. Catacawa. And then PlayStation Studios is incredibly happy to get from software. And I'm going to be, they're gonna make that work. And it's gonna be great. But do you see what I'm saying there? I see what you, I see what you're saying.
And like that to me is like, that's where it goes to the console sold and all of that stuff. But like, I also want to clear, PlayStation having from software would be very good for PlayStation. I know that. But I guess that's my thing is, I think you're right as far as like, like that relationship between Sony and Catacawa and PlayStation from software. I just think that the talks at PlayStation about like, what if we can, how can we agree from software?
I think those are happening like strongly. And I think they key, I would imagine that they're going to Sony, like again, though the higher ups are all having conversations all the time, I imagine about like, but what if we bought from software? Hey, how can we buy from software? Hey, what if we spent some money to buy from software? I think that's happening. Yeah, I don't know that it is. I don't know that it is. Slim Geddy says, scuff is definitely not quality.
I guess that's not a, that's a opinion. That's not a factual, you're wrong. All right. Somebody else writes in and says Tim would love control. That's it. We don't have it. These are all like, you know, opinions. These aren't your rugs. I appreciate that. But yeah, you would love control Tim. Mm-hmm. Tim, this has been kind of funny games daily. What a good one. What a fun one.
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