The Xiongnu's Disappearance and Turkic Connection feat. CopperAxe
Oct 25, 2025•1 hr 23 min
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Episode description
Explore the transformation from the Xiongnu Empire to the rise of the Göktürks in this detailed discussion with fellow researcher CopperAxe. We examine the decline, remnants, and legacy of the Xiongnu and explore how later steppe groups like the Huns, Onogur (Sabirs, Kutrigurs, Utigurs, Bulgars), and Göktürks likely emerged as their heirs. Discover insights from recent archaeology and ancient DNA studies, and compare Chinese dynastic accounts with steppe inscriptions. Delve into cultural continuities in burial rites, Balbal statues, titles, and military organization.
What we cover:
- Who the Xiongnu were and why their empire collapsed
- Xianbei & Donghu aftershocks and the Rouran Khaganate
- Westward movements: Huns and the Onogur clusters (Sabirs, Kutrigurs, Utigurs, Bulgars)
- The Ashina and the birth of the Göktürks (Tujue)
- Signals of Turkic continuity
- Genetics and linguistics of the Xiongnu and other Turkic groups
#Xiongnu #Göktürks #steppepolities #Huns #Onogur #Turkiccontinuity #archaeology #ancientDNA
See show notes: https://inlet.fm/khans-den/episodes/68fd10df1886a66a99314237
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