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@ForkReporter- Technique of the Week- The Perfect Burger

Jun 28, 202513 min
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How to make the perfect burger this grilling season? Neil has some tips about meat temp, seasonings, ingredients, and more! It's all on KFIAM-640!

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It's always grilling season. I wanted to talk about burgers, something seemingly so simple, but technique and ingredients are imperative because of its simplicity. When you're making something complex, a lot of times it can, you know, kind of hide behind all the other ingredients and the complexity of it. But the more simple something is that you're going to cook or make, the more right on the money has to be. And I hear this probably more than any

other thing. Pizza dough is probably up there somewhere, but more than any other thing. I'm asked about the perfect burger, which lends one to ask, or leads one to ask, what is perfect to you? Do you like a thick burger a thin burger? Do you like thin patties? Like a smash burger? But you want two of them? My brother cannot eat a patty. He thinks it's gross. I know, right, he just can't. He won't have like a double cheeseburger

or something. Yes, I know your next question is gonna be even at in and out it's a single like he doesn't go give me a double doubt like the rest of us humans, and that because that's not his jam. But why is it gross, Like is it just too much meat? That's something gross something. But I mean even but you would think, well, what about a smash burger? But even a smash burger bothers him. I have no idea. I don't do therapy on this show, whole other show.

But so I want to talk about these. So whatever your perfect burger is, let's go through some of the things you're gonna need. The biggest problem people will say is my burgers turn out to dry. So there's two things that can go wrong when your burgers go dry, wrong meat ratio or wrong meat altogether, or cooked too long, just overcooked. So the right meat to use. And I'm sorry for those of you who are like, oh, I'm gonna make a chicken burger, it's going to be dry.

Probably you're opting for ground beef with good fat content, and you can't get that anywhere else than an eighty twenty ratio. That means eighty percent lean twenty percent fat, which is the exact opposite of my body makeup. Strangely enough, if you're playing the home game. So for a juicy burger, which my boy loves, Daddy, make me one of your juicy cheeseburgers, you need an eighty twenty ratio. So if you're going lean on the meat, you will not get this.

You just won't. You gotta avoid lean meat. That's you know, lean meat. You put it if you're mixing it into your spaghetti sauce or you're doing something like that. That's when you go for the lean stuff. But don't do it when you're doing a burger when it's the star of the show, right, So avoid that because it's gonna, you know, give you dry burgers. The second thing is that when you're cooking the burger, people tend to overcook them. Yes,

you want them at a certain dunness. The better quality of the meat, the looser you can be with the heat. I kind of hesitate saying this because reality is you

need to know what you're doing. The reason why you can have a rare or medium rare steak and then at a restaurant when you ask for a burger medium rare, they said, okay, that's this, And then there's a little thing on the menu that says having hamburger meat less than one hundred and sixty five degrees and be dangerous is because when you grind a steak to make hamburger meat. The steak has the most bacteria on the outside and

it's most preserved on the inside. Once you grind it, they all mate with each other and now all the bacteria is throughout the entirety. That is why hamburgers should be cooked to one sixty five. So what I do to keep them from drying out is I slowly. If it's a thicker burger, I put it on high heat. I'm searing that while I'm cooking it, turning it over and then bringing it. I bring it up to a top rack off of the direct heat, and that's where I put my cheese on it, drop the lid and

melt the cheese. But what I'm doing is that heat is going to continue to travel from the outside to the inside of the meat as I take it off, and as I put it on to the plate, it will continue to cook and then it will get to a nice juicy state. Rather than cooking it to one hundred and sixty five and then taking off, it's going to go up to about one hundred and seventy five after that. So that's one of the things that you have to battle with is the keeping those juices in there.

When we come back, I'll talk about the tricks and tips you need to actually make those patties. There are a trick to it. My mom makes great patties, always have, probably because with seven kids you couldn't spend a lot of time on them. And that's really the tip that we'll get into to get those patties perfect for grilling or roasting. If you're you know, if you're putting them under the broiler whatever it is on pans here, man, the heat gets up and it's just these lovely Southern

California days, great for grilling. Been doing a lot of grilling, enjoying that. I hope you're doing the same. I want to remind you a couple of things. One mo Kelly is on YouTube every night during his show. You've got to check it out. There are so many times that I'm either in my home office or in my home shop and I have them on and it's exactly like sitting as I have done. I've sat with him during his show before. It's exactly like doing that. But you're

at home. So if you're in your Tony's or something, no one's going to have a problem if you do that live with mo. There's a problem, trust me. I found that out the hard way. But it's a lot of fun and it's an interesting way to listen and enjoy the program. All right. I also want to remind you that the twelfth Saturday, July twelfth, write that down, join me at Wild Fork Foods in Santa Clarita. That's

right off the Magic Mountain Parkway. There in store at Wild Fork Foods, and if you've never been to one, man, it's spectacular. You can get all kinds of rare meats and things like that, as well as your classics, but they also have pre prepared aired stuff. A unique experience, to say the least when shopping. But it's a summer grilling season. We'll be doing giveaways broadcasting live right there at two four one seventy five Magic Mountain Parkway. I

would love to meet you. I'm going to bring some swag to give away, some Folk Report swag as well. So July twelfth on Magic Mountain Parkway at Wild Fork, So write that down. Talking about Technique of the Week and burger patties. I know it seems simple, but man, if you can't get a burger patty right then people will hate your guts. There, I said it. That's your life is going to be people hating you and talking bad behind your back. There is nothing more sad to me.

And someone makes bad burgers because you know those people you invited, they may be smiling now and all of that, and you can tell they're the ones that are putting, you know, three times the amount of condiments on the burger that they should be because that's how bad it is. And they're going to talk bad about you. So it should be a point of pride. When you make the paddies. You want to keep the ground beef cold. You want to keep it cold until you're ready to make those patties.

You want cold hands too, and it's one of the people that one of the things people do, and one of the tips that I've seen is they keep a bowl of ice water next to them and you can actually put your hands in the ice water when you're packing them. The key to this is you want to make them, you know, quickly. You do not want to overwork the meat. You want to gently shape them. This will help you get little pockets in there that will hold the juices if you make it too dense. You're

going to get a dry burger. There's nowhere for that juice to kind of hang out. Also, when you have your hands are naturally warm, and they are going to heat the fat. And that's why when you make patties for too long with too warm hands, you come and you you pull your hands away, and your hands are

covered in fat, even chunks of fat. And those chunks you've actually pulled because you've ground They've ground the meat together, so you got the eighty twenty meat, and that twenty percent fat is now getting onto your hands, which makes the patty have less than twenty percent fat, and that will make them. You want patties to be slightly larger than the buns because they're gonna shrink during cooking. Some

people do this. I do this on occasion, depending on if I'm hand making my patties means I'm not using anything else to create their shape. Then I will put a little divt, a little divot in the center of the burger, and that way, when it can constricts because of the heat, it'll push that divot out rather than making it look like a football. Some people will put when they go to put it on the grill they'll put a piece of ice on. It does similar. It keeps it very cool on the inside and the top

so that it doesn't constrict. As fast. As far as seasoning goes, salt and pepper is great. You really don't need anything else. I'll tell you something I'm a fan of though, and this was because of my mom. Is lowery seasoning salt. Love that on a burger. I just you know, and I'm mostly a salt and pepper guy, Like when it comes to meat, I'm like, hey, just you want it to taste like the meat, not a seasoning. But I do love me some lowery seasoning salt and

it goes great on a patty. So you don't want to salt too early. Can you know? The thing about salt is it pulls moisture out, so you do it right before it goes on, and you want it on a hot pan or grill. You get that sears. It's almost the opposite of cooking a steak, where you're doing a reverse sere. High heat, does that great crust, Oh that crunchy, lovely crust. And avoid pressing down on the patties. But as far as flipping them, flip them, however, once

you want. People say, oh, you should only flip it once. If that's how you grill them, that's fine, but there is no real difference there is like people. Matter of fact, science has shown that the more you flip meat, it actually rotates the juices, just like a rotisserie does on

the chicken, and can actually keep it more flavorful. But the sear gets there because of the heat, right, And if you flip a bunch of times, you won't get that seer because the grate that you're cooking on or the pan never gets time to come back to heat high heat again because that burger every time you flip

it is stealing heat from there. So, for instance, when I cook burgers, if I'm cooking for burgers because my wife doesn't eat red meat, I'm doing it just for my son and me, and so I will make room so that when I flip them after the first year, I'm flipping them not back to where they were, but onto a new part of the grate so that they get that full heat again. And that works nicely. And then if I need to flip them over again, the part that I didn't flip them on before is now

hot enough to do that. So those are some things. Let them rest a few minutes to really what you want them to do is to come to one hundred and twenty degrees in the center. Is when they've rested enough, that goes down. So they've gone from their high heat down to one twenty, and you know they're not going to squeeze out

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