Sammy Hagar Abducted & the 9th Dimension

Sammy motherfucker guard damning, except here it's too early. Come on. I kind of wanted to jump off with just I've heard the story about you having an abduction, correct, that's what you call it. Well, you know, I wasn't abducted to where I went for I you know, like like Bill and Barney Hill or whatever that that lady uh in the in the fifties. It actually went out and told us how the universe looks from out there and all this stuff. I already got goose bumps. Look, I'm

already fucked. But I didn't get abducted. But I was, Um, it's sixty eight. I was laying in bed and I was you know, I was sleeping, and all of a sudden, I felt like something was going on. I come, was gonna wake up. And then I had this. I could see these guys sitting It's thirteen miles away, you know, exactly where they were sitting, you know, and all this stuff, the relative to my hometown, and uh, I just went, what's going on? And they started saying, you know, it

was all te lepthy. No one's saying anything. So I didn't go for the ride. But I was plugged into something and it was wireless and you know, way before wireless and remote control and all the things. And they said, hey, he's waking up, and uh we gotta, you know, get out of here, and not get out of here. But you know, like he's he's he's wise to this. But it wasn't like that. It's just so unusual. I can hardly explain it today and could never explain it properly.

But I was being either programmed or they were uploading what I knew. Not because I was some special guy. I was just some dumb kid, but just you know, like an experiment, like you know, I was just some creature that they're saying. I checked this guy out and but I caught it and it was bad ass freaking out. Yeah, because at the time, I never thought anything about the universe. I never thought about you know. My only religious experience was going to Catholic church and oh, God, whatever that is,

you know, the devil, whatever that is. So I had no psychic phenomenon, just nothing. It was just like, you know, and then all of a sudden, I was awake. I was saying, oh, no, something's going on here. There's people out there. I was looking at the sky. I became an astronomer, not astrologer. I became an astronomer. I got a telescope. I just started reading up on all that. So,

I mean I became a nut from that day on. Well, I've been a nut, I think since day one, because I've just my mom was like, she majored in astrology, and I think it was like weird growing or something. She went to a college that was in real college, and so pretty much since I can remember, it's just been she writes music and tells me about like whose sign will go good with my sign? And there are just mercuries and retrograde for their signs and blah blah blah.

So it's been like a very natural part of my life. It's always been there. And she likes to call herself a psychic. She's pretty psychic sometimes, but then sometimes she's super not. But I've always been fascinated with the unexplainable or things that are hard to put into words, because that's the most exciting part of life, is when you experience something like this, We're like, I can barely explain it. Yeah, I still can't explain it. I mean, I'm a firm believer.

I mean, this ship happened. It was not like some dream. No no, no, no. I woke up from the dream. My whole room was pure white and I couldn't move, and then you know, I mean like infinity, you know, white, and then I'll bam. It was pitch black is in the middle of the night, and I laid there shaken, and I couldn't even hardly get my body back together for about a minute or two to actually get up at a bit, I was still kind of in a

like I was locked down. It was. It was. It was really badass looking back now, but at the time, because I wasn't interested and could care less about any of that stuff. I've never seen a ghost or anything. It was. It was shocking and scary, but now it wouldn't be. I mean I would be like chasing him, get my car and go after him to I'm going to ross Well next week just because, and then to look at the lights, like that's what I do for fun in my spare time, I go chasing the aliens.

Well I thought you played music for fun? Well that too, but you know, but like all beyond the tour bus and make us all stop at some like haunted worehouse and sleep there instead of like the fancy w down the street. And I'm like, no, no, we have to stay at the haunted hotel, Like well, what sign are you cashing? What signed? We gotta get this out of the way. Let's it all the way. I'm a Pisces, what are you? Oh? Well, of course then you are psychic and all that stuff. I have a Pisces rising.

I'm a lever with the Pisces rising. But yeahs and Scorpios libras. Yeah, I have like a pretty good relationship with everybody except for male scorpios. We love them, yeah scorpios. I was married to a scorpio for twenties six years, a scorpiola. So yeah, they're they're they're freaky people, but they they they're pretty sensitive. Man, they get this stuff.

They're sensitive, but then they sting you. Yeah, well, I gotta be careful, especially at Pisces, because Pisces aren't careful, oh my god, careful about anything, but like the most emotional creature on the Yeah, I know, yeah, no, I love it. I've got more Pisces friends, funny than anything. But anyway, so what I mean, what do you think? I'm not asking you, it's my interview. You've gone. So, but where do you think these creatures are coming from? See,

I believe there's more than one. There's there's robots, there's all kinds of different things going on in dimensions. Were robots for sure. And I even have a friend, this comedian Whitney Comming. She has a robot that is made in her likeness that she takes around with her just to make people uncomfortable. So, like, they're definitely robots. They're getting slightly better. I think as like time goes aliens,

I'm still a little confused about it. But to me, I think aliens might just be us in the future. So your story is that you could have been downloading your new body because you're a clone, just throwing that one out there. Well, I became a different guy, I can tell you that much right now. At that time, I was looking for a good paper out or something, you know what I mean. And I was playing music,

but I hadn't really written songs, you know. I was just playing music, learning that play guitar, playing with my buddies, and uh, you know, twenty years old, trying to get a club job or something. I could sing songs. But once that happened, I just man, I I was just on a quest to learn what God was and where these guys came from, and uh, what else was going on out there? And I started writing songs. You know.

My first songs were like, uh, a song called silver Lights, which is about the second coming of Jesus but coming in um uh spaceships, you know what I mean. I used to really believe that. I'm I don't know if I don't believe it now, but if there if something like that happened. But anyway, then I just started getting into the dimensions, started reading old Spinsky things like that, which things I would have never even thought of it any time in my life. I mean, it changed my

life completely. From that day on, I just went who I was just a complete new guy and I was on a quest and I still am. But yeah, it's you know, at my age, I kind of feel like, damn, you know, it's been a long time. I'd like to have another experience if I could, you know, something re enlightened me. You know what I've had like because of this podcast is like kind of a segue for me to talk to people I love, people I admire, and people that fascinate me about whatever the funk we want

to talk about. That's what this is, right, and especially anything magical, unexplainable, weird, creepy, just kind of whatever. It's a seguated for me and you to bullshit about some weird ship. So that can go from like what's the weirdest tour experience you've ever had? To what's the most unexplainable thing? To this experience you had with aliens. I have like a couple of like kind of tactile questions. How did you know it was? Did you see physically

see a person and or being or you just felt it? No, I saw it. I saw it in my head. I could see where they were. We were totally plugged in. It was like what we're doing right now? I can see you, you can see me. And it was they were just in this little craft. It was like a you know, flying damn saucer, you know, the oval shape

and all that. And they were just sitting on this mountain right where I used to go camping and with my friends and you know, we'd hang out up there in this mountain, go up there and you know, drink and stuff, you know when uh in party. And they were up there about thirteen miles away, like I said, and they could see them away from you where you were, and you can see them that far, or they had taken you over to the it's where I was. I was in bed in this house and they were up

there on that mountain, but remotely. It was like we were connected. They had a wire. It was not a hard wire, but they had a circuit that was in me. And when they they they haullered out a numerical code and they said, always waking up. We got to end this. And it was like a numerical call that I never heard before, none of our numbers. But it was like you know a numbers like nine seven four. Things in the w C went went, and it went well. And this thing was just like a line that just was leaving.

I could feel it leaving and see it leaving, and and then it just went, Like I said, white, they were gone. I couldn't see him anymore. We were disconnected. But while we were connected to see I could see them, and they could see me. I guess they could see me, but I could see them, but not clear. They were just kind of back lit. Remember that Science programming, those two cartoon guys would analyze movies, you know from the back.

It was. Yeah, it was like two guys sitting there doing that, you know, talking about me and behind the panel. And but they weren't shaped like that. They didn't have those silly wires coming off, and they were just kind of blobs, kind of like you know you always see the pictures of the aliens, you know, with the eyes and stuff. Wouldn't I couldn't see features like that. It was kind of dark. They were. It was just like that. I mean, and I've never even thought of anything like this,

you know this. That's why it was so devastatingly cataclysmic to me. I just became whoa you know what, And I mean it's opened my mind up. And nobody around me was down with it. I try to talk to anybody about it. No, no, no, what was people think? At least they thought I was high. You know, I had never done drugs. I wasn't even Oh no, I wasn't even smoking weed or drinking at that time. I started doing that later. But there was a psychic lady

that I finally went to see named miss Kellerman. And Cameron Crow knows who she is, and he called me when he read my book and said, oh my god, you saw miss Keller and my mom's friend. She was the best psychic ever. And I said, I know. I went to see her, and man, she she set me off on a path and it was I just became abduction moment kind of set you on the spiritual path and it led you to um miseran. Yeah, miss Kellerman, is she still alive? No, this is listen. I'm old

first causae, so I don't know. I was about twenty nineteen or twenty, about nineteen or twenty. It was sixty seven sixty eight, right at late sixties, five years before I finally, you know, made it with Montrose it started playing. But I don't know. It's hard to explain about what that did. But but my big quest is since I met people like there's a guy named Ralph Blum who wrote this book called Project Blue Book. And I was sitting in a hotel room in seventy but I heard

it's really good. That's about when it Charlie and Calvin um Parker from Passagoulia, Mississippi. The two guys that were fishing on a dock catfishing and these guys came and got him and they and they scared him. One guy committed suicide. He was he went crazy. These are good old boys and miss passes Sculia, Mississippi. Well, this guy, Ralph Blum had just interviewed them for Project blue Book,

which he was given the okay for the government. And I'm sitting in a hotel room in Montrose on my first tour and seventy three and he walks by my room and my doors open. He goes, hey, how you doing. I said good? You know can what can I do for you? And he's going, you got many you believe in UFOs? And I said yeah, And he says, I want to talk about it, and I said, sure, ivided

him in. We spent four hours, you know, out of the blue, just coincidence holiday, and he tells me about all this stuff, and he said, these guys weren't lying. He said, these guys I interviewed him right after it happened, they were shaking, They were scared, he does. But I figured out later that they were robots. These are like robots that they can just put out in outer space and they can download information and they and they, you know,

they're rough with you. You know, they stick needles in you, and you know, you know, they stick tubes down your throat and things. Yeah, the robots are are aliens there in spaceships. Think, but do you think aliens are all robots or you think some of them are robots. I think there's all kinds of stuff going on out there, and these guys just cruise around the universe and they can't be here at their robots they live forever and they just send information back. I guess because they examined

these guys. They laid him flat out in the middle of a their ship. They took him on the ship, supposedly, and and they they weren't even on a bench or anything. They were just flat out in mid air and probed them all to death, and then they sent them back. And these guys were crying on TV. I saw him on Dick Habit or something and the one guy was

breaking down crying trying to talk about it. So, I mean, it was stone ass real and I'm sitting there going, yes, this is real, and people are laughing in the audience and stuff. Project Blue Book is an early book on it. But there hasn't been much new stuff for me that you know, you watch the UFO channel and all this stuff. It's always the same stuff. It's always about those aliens and Roswell, which I believe they're they're get out of here. Of course they're there him going there in a week.

I'm going to go say hell to him, but you ain't gonna see him. They won't let you. I know. Well, that's the thing is that I've seen lights in the sky because of my song TikTok. Everyone thinks I'm always drunk and high, which is not, in fact, always drunk and hy but totally sober. Setting up a tent and look up and there's this formation of these burning fire lights in the sky, and I was like, oh, that's

so weird. And then I didn't really think much about it, which is also really weird because usually I'm so obsessed with this kind of ship that like, I didn't take any pictures, I didn't call my mom, who fully thinks she's an alien. Like, it was just so weird, how calm, it wasn't very like, Okay, there it is. And then came back in a different formation. And it was the strangest thing because I've also had an experience with a ghost. It was that same feeling of oh, I like read

about this and I watched things about it. It's so exciting, but when it's actually happening to me, it's just beyond natural feeling. Yeah, ghosts are freaky. They're different than UFOs aliens coming from not from other planets, but from somewhere in the universe or somewhere in our galaxy, um, not our solar system. I don't believe there's life on Mars. I mean there could be, you know, microscopic life and stuff like that, but they're not coming from there. But

the ghosts now them suckers. That is the craziest one. Because I've had two unbelievable ghost experiences ones with my father, who when I was twenty one shortly out. Not that long after that deal, I had just gotten married, I had a brand new baby. I'm living in San Francisco in an apartment one one room. My father, who was a bad alcoholic who had been a street person for the last five or six years, hadn't seen him for

a while. He beats on my door. I'm telling my fresh new wife said, Wow, somebody's beating on the door. I go open up the door in my dream and it's my dad. He's like the same age as me. It's like in his twenties, and he's drunk, and he's screaming great davidy Irish and on. I said, Dad, get the hell out here. Don't ever come here, you know, like that scared my little baby. And I went back to bed and my wife says, who is that? And I said, oh, it's my dad, you know, not like

weird that he was young. It was in my dream, I guess, because I thought it was all cool, it's really my dad. And then all of a sudden, I go to lay back down in the bed and it's exactly where I am. It's not like I'm in some weird place like dreams are. No. I was right where I was and the door knoxygen. I said, damn it, like I sa him again, I'm gonna go, you know, really let him have it. This time. I opened the door to my next door neighbor who had the phone,

who was my manager. I had a little band and I moved to San Francisco, and he goes, hey, your sister's on the phone, and I went, well, my sister said, Dad died. You know, it's four o'clock in the morning. My sister just found out they had found him in a in a park and uh, on a park bench, and and it's horrible, but that was back to back. It wasn't like a day later, a week later. It was right at the time. My sister would called me

within minutes after that experience happened. And she was the first one they let know because she lived in the hometown in his you know, our hometown. And that was just so real that I can't tell you how that could happen. I've asked, so I could hear. My goose bumps were up again. I've asked every sec I've ever met.

They said, well, we've heard of that. That happens once a while, and they you know, they as they're crossing over, they'll come and visit someone and uh, and it's usually like in a younger state, you know, it's and he was physically younger looking when the door. You didn't think anything of it. No, I didn't even know him when he was at young, you know, I was. I was older when when he had me. I was the youngest of four kids, so he was even younger than when

I knew him. But it was just it wasn't weird to me at all. It was And all I can ever think about is why didn't I let him in? You know? What if I did let him in? You know what I mean, like, oh, shoot, I'm sitting here, Like I said, I can't. Can you see these things? I'm gonna have to go. I'm gonna have to go see my dermatologist. He gets stuck, it's removed. I think that when I get goose bumps, I feel like telling me that there's like you're speaking truth. Oh so true

right now. I just they won't go away, by the way, they Jamie looking my hairs. But what if I to let him in? Cash You don't I mean, don't you think that that it would have been like what Wow, wonder what would have happened? Well, we all wonder, like what if? To me, it sounds like he was giving you his Irish goodbye. It's like last came to you because obvious, so you were important to him and to me it brings Obviously, when anybody passes away, it's horrible

and sad and very hard to reconcile with. But I do very much believe there is something. Whether it's a dimension, whether it's an afterlife. I don't know what it is. I'm not sure. I don't know, but I have had interactions with things that are unnatural and unexplainable that I know. I'm not alone. I know I have whether you want to call it angels or souls or just people around me that I can't see. I know that's real. I know it in my soul. So maybe it was his way.

I'm the kind of person where I got to see it to believe it. I don't know if you're that way, but maybe it was like he's got to see it to believe it kind of moment in your life, Oh that was you gotta you would have to, I mean, you can't even imagine how I felt because I thought it had happened, and then I thought it was a dream, and then then I knew that it had happened. It

was just as using as a UFOL experience. But now I love that stuff, and that to me was just like I felt so sorry that I didn't invite him in. You know, it's like I'm just that cheese. I wonder if that could have happened and I could have had a communication and sat down and you know, had coffee. But but it was just it's just unexplainable, you know. To me, that's kind of stuff and I don't know dimensions.

It's gotta be dimensions and things like that, because it wasn't a physical thing, but it was half physical, you know, because I got up. I actually opened the door twice. I think, I guess, so I believe that you did. I even have started reading about last night because I was reading about your experiences and just talking to a friend of mine that actually Alice Cooper's daughter is like one of my best friends, and I was like, do

you know anything about Sammy Hagar? So that we called Uncle Alice, and Uncle Alice was just shooting the ship with us about you. And then long story short, yesterday was Sammy Hagar Day. Listen. I love the Cooper were Alice attracts that weirdness and I I've never even had a conversation with Alice like about this kind of stuff.

You know, most that he said he said that you guys are just like rock dudes and rock and roll and you never spoken about this, but I think you have a shared sense because he was on the podcast and talking about his experiences and he's had some crazy experiences too. Yeah, I know Alice, he's been through some stuff. He's been he went clear to the dark side himself. You know, he can probably have some stories in there.

But you know, I just think that the dimensional thing, there's a there's a philosopher named P. D. O. Spinsky and Ospensky wrote about dimensions, and you know, we are three dimensional creatures with a fourth dimensional sense, which the fourth dimensions, we can see the future a little bit. Like you can sit here and think, oh, I was on a uh in that car yesterday. You can remember where you were or where you need to go later.

That's like kind of fourth dimensional psychist kind of hang out in that area a lot more and that's fourth dimensional, and O Spensey claimed that fifth dimensional you can walk through physical walls like that's like Jesus and you know the Master's Buddha and those guys that witnessed things where these gurus would would be able to manifest saying say, oh, would you like an apple boom? Here's one you know in the middle of nowhere. Here you have rings too small, Well,

let me make it bigger for you. Touch it and put it on your finger. Uh, that's fifth dimensional stuff. And Ospensky didn't get much farther than the fifty dimension where he thought he really had it down. Einstein was reading his book Toreach an Organ and when he died, it was open on his desk. If you saw a picture of Einstein's desk, which I saw, not I wasn't there. I saw a picture. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay.

So the point is, as I started getting more into the UFO stuff and and talking to the psychics and people that know it, Supposedly, the ninth dimension is what God is to us, what we can all we can comprehend. We cannot go past the ninth dimension and number. Yeah, I read that that like nine is your that's your number. Well, it's a weird tripping number does things. It is a dripping number. I mean you turn it upside down, there's the devil times over. But like, I definitely want to

hear about the numerology thing. So tell me about nine. When I discovered nine, then I started. I named my publishing company nine Music. I had a band called the Nine, you know, early on when I was first starting when all this, when I first got you know, non abductive but contacted by aliens. If you add nine to any number, nine and three is twelve, two and one is three. When you take it down to the single digit again,

nine disappears. If you add it to anything, you could add nine to one million, seven and twenty seven seven to come down to one digit, the nine will disappear. You multiply nine and it will never go away. Three nines and twenty seven seven in two is nine, six nines or fifty four or five and four is nine.

It's the freakiest thing. So if you see a bunch of nines and you're trying to get to the last digit, you know, and you just add up the four and fins and nine, throw it out don't even bother, so it's a three and people go, well, that guy's a

fucking genius, you know. But it just get rid of the nines and anything that adds up to nine if you're adding, and you can throw it out and you can take a block of numbers and come down with the single digit in the bottom like in ten seconds if you're if you really know how to do this stuff, do you multiply nine times anything and it becomes a nine again when you get down to the last digit. It's freaky as ship. And I'm not that good at it in my head, but I'm telling you that it works.

You can do it like you know, nine times anything five nine, five, five and four, nine, three, nine seven two is nine eight nines or one eight and ones nine again. It will not go away. It stays forever in multiplication. And supposedly the reason that is it's the cap it's the end of the of our dimensional thing, and it's these numerology I mean, these mathematical geniuses in our time have come up with all these little fun

little tricks and that's how they figure out ship. Though you know, like how far things are and how quick you can do things and what the you know, lightspeed, But but that's the ninth you mention is supposed to be God. So if we funk around with that consciousness, supposedly with the computer, you that God is almost like a computer. This is just theories I've heard. I don't know.

I don't know if I believe this or not. But the u UFO I'm like super curious about because I feel like technology is one of those things that can serve the Earth and the planet and all of us in a really positive way as I get to talk to you about really interesting, spiritual, enlightening shit, and but then it also can be a really negative, hateful place where there's false information spread and people can be total cunts. So I think that there's a light in a dark

to everything. So I find myself reluctant to be overly just joyous about technology because I know that there are some really good people and then there are some people that are not so good, and usually it's from going through traumatic things or whatever. They're different reasons why people make poor choices. But I just get nervous with technology because as we go ahead, it's maybe because it's the fear of the unknown, but technology I do think is

a portal to something if in the right hands. Yeah, it can be such a connector. I'm with you that the whole social aspect that it's ruined. It kind of makes us in unsoulful and organic something about that technology is taking a lot of that away from us and leaving us just thinking. And everything's quick, and you know, people are just sniping behind computers and stuff. But but there's some knowledge there that we can get somehow. I think about what life is really all about, and I

hope it's good information. And I hope the answer we get. I just hope it isn't no, no God, just a computer. No, you guys, just some dumbass thought. You know for one second on this. I mean, some people have laid that stuff on me. I hear so many theories. When I try to talk about this with anyone, I it confused quick, because you know, I just have my experiences and the things that I feel and believe. And I know there's dimensions, and I know there's ghosts, and I know there's UFOs,

but I don't know what it all means. I don't know. I heard that they can't interfere with us. A ghost you can say, get out of here, and that's my life space. I have life force. They want your life force. They want to come in and live again through you, and they can do it if you let them. I've heard you've got to be careful with that. And I heard that the UFO guys as well, uh, that they can't interfere. They can't stop you from dropping the bomb, you know what I mean. They can't stop you from

having your warfare. You know they they're not It's illegal in the universe to let it. It's almost like when you're you're a photographer or filming nature, where you're not allowed to interfere, like even if you're like the shark is getting eaten by or is going to eat some sweet cute looking thing, like when you're filming nature, you're not supposed to interfere. I sometimes wonder if the aliens are like that with us, where it's like what I've heard,

they're blowing each other up, but we can't interfere. They're just looking at watching closely. Because you know, the balance of the universe. I guess you know, it's just like the ecology. It's it's you know, if something gets out of balance, Uh, I guess it messes with the whole big picture on the road to God, you know, whatever that ninth dimension holds. So I'm so curious about the fifth or the sixth, seventh, and eighth, and ninth dimensions too.

Like I was reading. There's a book I was reading called A Short History of Everything. I believe that's what's called Bill Bryson. Anyways, he was saying, and I probably misquoting this, so this is not factual information, but there was something like proven twelve dimensions and infinite. So how do we even like reconcile that in our brains. We can't. I don't even know. We're only capable of comprehending the

fourth dimension, which is psychic. You know, we can say I know I have to be someplace tomorrow and I can see it in my head. I know where I'm going. That's like fourth dimensional ship. It don't exist. I mean, who knows if it's even there right now. You know, you're we're talking about things, and but until you get there, then it is there. But that's fourth dimensional stuff. That's, like I said, a psychic Like if you're sitting there watching a train and there's a train track and there's

a train come in both directions. If you didn't have any communication and they didn't know, you can rise above and look down and go, oh, they're gonna crash. That's a psychic, he's going they say, how did you know? You know what I'm saying, It's like, it's that it's that primitive sometimes what they tell psychics tell me, and so it's like, that's that's the end of our our deal. At the fifth dimension, I'm trying to figure out how

to walk through the wall. I can't tell you how to do that, but I guess some people have been enlightened on this planet, some spiritual people, like supposed Jesus, not Buddha, but Buddha witnessed that. When you read about Buddha and Yoga and yogan and it talks about seeing these guys. This guy they kept putting in jail and he'd end up on a roof naked and then say, hey, man,

how do you get out of jail? It was just some guy that just had the gift, you know, like like the Dalai Lama, you know that that's able to feel and do things. But anyway, that fifty minsional thing, I don't think we're capable. So you start getting into twelve dimensions, don't ask me, Man, you're gonna have to figure that one out for yourself. But I want you

to call me now. And I'm still kind of getting used to like having a physical form, like I swear to God, I'm so used to being some sort of floating soul creature that like all sometimes look in the mirror and be like, oh, yeah, you look like that, and you're a girl. So weird because I feel like, truly in my soul. I know this sounds fucking nuts, but like in my soul of soul, since I was a little kid, I felt like I was like a blue tiger that could fly. That's my soul. I don't

think you're crazy, cash, listen. I don't think you're crazy. But that's funny. Like that's like if I looked in the mirror and saw that, I'd be like, oh, there you are perfect. I love looking at myself in a mirror, straight in my eyes and for as long as I can, and just and and all of a sudden, I start smiling and laughing so hard, and you know, people think I'm crazy. My wife, you know, she's going I'm saying, no, honey, it's not an ego trip. No, I'm not a narcissist.

I'm not, you know, looking at myself, saying, oh, how do I look? You know, I'm I'm just looking at myself and and you can see, man, when you get a glimpse, like, I think it's what you're talking about, when you just feel you just everything goes away and just see your own self and your eyes and your eyes are smiling at you, and you're just oh God, I just I could do that for long periods of time, and I just feel like it's like the form that I've taken. I'm such a goofy motherfucker that I'm like,

it's just got to be funny. You have to find humor in all of this or we're so I just have to. That's why I paint myself with like glitter and wear stupid ships, because like, come on, you're doing pretty good. You're entertaining this. You're entertaining because you keep doing all that stuff. We love you. I do think.

I do think, like when you were saying that like ghosts or entities as a performer when you're performing, I've been told that you were projecting your energy so far, and I assume you're like me from what I've seen of you on stage and just talking to you. Now, it's like I try to reach the corners of the room with my energy. Like I know that people in the very back seat. I'm like, I want you to feel this as much as the person the very front.

So I just like go so hard. Apparently when you project your energy that hard that you're opening up the almost like the aura. It's just so big that you're opening it up to so much energy. And then when you go backstage and you take a shower and you kind of like come back down to earth, that you then may have all these entities that kind to cling onto your your energy. And I believe that. I believe it. Yeah,

I've felt that before. And you can get sick. I had a psychic tell me that I have to be careful because when I go out on stage and I open myself up to the end of the room, Like could you say that you can actually get sick, not like die sick, but I mean if somebody's you can get a coal you come back and you're more susceptible because you've opened yourself up in any entity germs or physical, you know, spiritual can come in and and you know

have a little a little bite of you. You know, totally they feed off of you, like like the negative super negative. I think that's one of the reasons I'm like, I'm into technology existing, I just don't know my participation with it directly because it can be so hurtful. Is because it can be very parasitic, like people can latch onto you and like really just suck the life out

of you. But then other people are such life givers and can make you feel so much more alive and so excited to be alive, and so much more awake and just give you energy. And you just got to kind of choose. I have to choose carefully who I spend time with. Oh yeah, you can be draining right some some sometimes if you get filled up from a relationship,

and sometimes you get drained from it. I mean, I'm I'm a real victim because one thing that I thank you and I you talk about, that thing we obviously have in common, is that I am really willing to open myself up. I'm willing to just lay it all out. I have no fear of that. And you have to be a little bit. I guess, you know, every now and then, a couple of psychics that I've seen that because I've got four psychics in my life that have

blown my mind. A couple of them just warned me about that that I'm too open and and that you've got to be careful because you can get a little influence that you don't really need. I don't understand so gullible that I have to be careful who I take kind of like psychic advice from. So if you have a really good psychics, s them my way. Please, No good psychic can really be helpful to someone, you know, Like even a thing as thin as astrology people think

it is. It's it is a way of saying an astrologers can really guide you to say, do not leave your house today. He's saying, no, you're gonna walk out that door and a freaking truck's gonna run you over. You know, they can see it in your in your chart even you know, if a good astrologer, Uh so, that's what it's for. It's it's the print prevent you from Um, that's the only way I heard. Here's another thing I've heard say, I'm not giving I'm not the

preacher here. I'm just saying, yeah, you have to. Someone can not tell you don't go outside. They can warn you, and you have to make the decision. It's the organic thing again, like the psychics are not supposed to interfere in what's supposed to happen, but they can guide you that you should probably stay home. I don't even know if it's like that, but supposed that they have to be careful doing that because they will also lose their gift. One psychic told me he will lose his gift they make.

I always ask my psychic at the end of a session. It's say I'd say, is there anything you need to tell me that I didn't ask? You know what I mean? Because because they're not allowed to just come and say, hey, you better watch out. You know, don't you do this? You do that. They can't guide your life. That's illegal in the in the karmic world. So I would always say that is there anything I and they say, well, yeah, you should probably stop beating so much meat, because you know,

I don't know you. I can see these things that they don't necessarily tell you unless you ask. Chris, you have to inquire or they have to guide you through it not you know, they can't just say don't do that like your parents do. You know? Well that makes more sense. That makes me like it more because I'll just not ask the scary questions. I don't want to know when I'm going to die and how it's going to happen. I really don't want to know. Really, no, you want to know. I don't know. I ain't afraid

of die in that's that doesn't bother me one bit. Man. It's like, I'm I know I'm crazy, but listen, I'm seventy three years old. So it's like, and I've done everything, I've had the most wonderful life in possly want. So I'm going, Okay, if I die, I don't want to die painfully or get hurt or something. But I don't know what. Death doesn't scare me. I'm curious about it. See I'm curious what. I'm curious about it too, to

be honest. And I have like a specific way that like, if I were to plan on dying in a specific way, I have a way that I would like to go. How's that I want to I'm like, I'm interested, So I would eat a fuck ton of Molly, and then I would go swimming naked in the ocean, covered in like dead fish and just have like a creature eat meat, ideally like a shark or a orca. Wow. I like that.

I don't think that would be the most like painless way to go, but it's like, then I could be in the ocean, I could be naked, I could be on Molly, and I be feeding a creature that I love. I'm getting where have you been all my life? Where have you been all my life? You can do half that ship anyway, all right? I just want to I love like animals, so I want like an animal to eat. Is what I want? Is I want someone to eat me.

Or if I die of like natural causes, I would want all my friends to come over and barbecue me and like dip me and barbecue sauce because I love barbecue sauce and like just have a little pieces of me. Like I said, you could do half that ship anyway. But that's a whole other story. Oh man Cash, anyway, you're a blast. You're fun. I'm just crazy. Oh so you told me the one obviously probably really intense ghost encounter with your father which must be emotional, and but

what was the other one? The same kind of a thing my manager as a solo artist. When I joined and Halen, he became our manager for for ten years and he died well for nine years. He died at nine years and after managing us, and he was my everything. My father died when I was young. This Ed Leffler was my father figure and life. This is the same that told you about your father on the phone. No, No, that was when I was a kid, when I was just trying to play music for this guy said I'll

be your manager. He was just a nice man that I met uh at a nightclub that said I'll be your manager. Okay, And so I didn't have a phone or anything back then. But no, this was later on in life. This is Van Halen era. Okay. Ed Leffler was our manager, and Ed had a thing about him where he could chill us out. He kept the band together. When he died, the band broke up within a year and we've been together nine years. He dies in Boom

we break up. Ed was a real controlling guy and after he died, we were shopping for managers and we were fighting, you know, like you know the band's do and so um they the guy said, you know, we want this guy, we want that guy. We're interviewing all these people, you know, Errol Smith's manager and um Neil Young's manager. We just sheep Gordon Alice Cooper's manager friend. So uh Ed dies. Finally the brothers come to me and say, we're gonna hire Ray Daniels. Ray Daniels was

Alex's brother in law at the time. And Uh, I'm good that guy, oh man Ed left Or hated him. He didn't. I shouldn't say something that's unfair to say that Ed left our manage didn't like he used to say bad things about him, like, hey, that guy's a crook. You know you want to watch out for deck enough for any reason other than you know. So all of a sudden, Ed uh ed Al tell me that they want to interview Ray Daniels. I said, are you crazy?

Left Or told us stay away for it, and and they go, yeah, okay, but we want to we let's have it, have a meeting with him. So I'm going, man, it's sucked up. So that night I'm sleeping, Ed left for comes to my side, who had passed him three weeks before. That's right. He's kneeling next to my bed and I smelled him. I was sleeping. I could smell him. You know how some people just have a smell, will

you just remember? And he was that close to me, so anyway, so I smelled him and I opened my eyes and I said, Ed, oh, And I started bawling my eyes out, crying and said oh, Ed. I said, oh, and I need your help. You know, like the band's gonna break up and they're gonna get Ray Daniels. And he said it's okay. And I said, I thought you didn't like Ray. He said, well from here where I am. Now he's he's the guy. He's gonna be your manager and he and he said let it go. He told me,

let it go, and I said, oh my god. And then he was gone. And here we go again. First all up. And I went to the studio the next day and said, fuck it, you guys want to hire Ray Daniels. Hire him? And they hired him, and I got thrown out of the band immediately, and then they fired him. That's the I'm sorry. But Ed Leffler came to me that night and told me, chill out. This is okay, it's meant to be. But that sounds like you're really loyal. Loyalty is a big deal, Yeah it is.

It sounds like you're just being loyal to someone you trusted. So yes, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. But it was weird because he was a ghost. Listen, he had been gone for a couple of weeks, you know, and uh, did you know he was a ghost or what were you like? Every time I see Ed Leffler in my dreams, which I still do every now and then he comes to see me, And every time I see him, I'm sitting there and saying, oh, Ed, you know,

we're having a good time. But it's always a little distance. You know. It's never like hugging, it's never touching, but it's like, you know, he's in the room and I see and it's oh man Ed, and and you know, good sea has been a while. And then I'll said, oh women, edge dead boom, dreams over gone. The second I ever acknowledged that he's past, he's gone, and that's ten times are are more since he's been since he's

been gone. So Kaliko was talking about how she has been recently, like just diving into astral projection, which I don't really know exactly what that is. The way she was explaining it, it sounds almost a little bit like what you're saying is happening in your dream where you everything's kind of normal until you realize it's not and then you wake up. Yeah, yeah, that's that's if she's right,

If that's what it is, somebody's astral projecting. I don't know if I'm going to see him or he's coming to see me, but you have to agree on that. You've got to meet in different places. I know you can't physically, you know, do certain things. So I think it's like a halfway meeting kind of thing, you know, you guys meeting another dimensioned kind of in the fifth dimension or somewhere you can walk through walls that kind of an area. I don't know, it's unexplainable and see

all that stuff. In case I was hoping you were going to give me tell me how all this stuff works. That's why I did a stamp show. Okay, here, let me tell you about you. I know from the research I've done is I've spoken to a medium like knew crazy shit about things I didn't even know about, and like I ended up having to call different people and like found out that it was true. It's not google herble information. It's insane. So to me that like it made me feel warm and fuzzy inside because I don't

think that when you go, you're just gone. I feel like we just can't see maybe things, or we don't understand our brain can't comprehend it. But I know and I feel people especially I feel like protection when I need it, and I feel that. So I can say from your stories about ghost I think that you people that wanted to maybe give you closure and peace. That's

what I'm like feeling from your stories. I call myself a spiritual explorer because I'm not closed off to anything and I'm kind of open to everything and I don't know anything. I'm just exploring. Yeah, no, no, that's saying. I mean, I'm with you. But Cosmic Christians is that I talk about cosmic Christians, about my theory about the UFOs, what the cosmic Christians, well, the cosmic Christians of people that I believed at one time and it was my

own theory. I thought that I found out there's other people. Is that you know that the second Coming of Christ will be like in UFOs and spaceships, and they'll come and take the chosen ones away to another dimension or two heaven. I believe in the seated thing. I believe in the I heard about the nuclear thing, you know, through the things I've read about over the years, the nucletar thing about we can't have these nuclear things are bad. We got to that, that's no no biend. We've got

to get rid of that. And and they're kind of keeping an eye on things and watching it, but they can't interfere. And so we're we're on the Yeah, we're on the on the teeter tottering or we're going to either go this way and destruct or we're gonna survive and having you know, another version of this little garden. This is a human garden. We have a life garden. It's a garden of life Planet Earth. It's it's it's full of life, right, It's it's green, it's got water.

It is that like how we all as a people, as all of the people and animals of that eat the grass that comes off of the ground, don't understand that the there's like a symbiotic relationship with the place we're inhabiting where we just like fuck it, Like it's such a head trip to me, how like we don't understand that there's we need the Earth, so we should probably like love it and not completely fuck it up like that to me is a mind trip. And like if we just keep sucking it up, then I don't

know to say. I hope the aliens come and get me. I have a song actually about spaceship. That's like I don't understand like half of the ship that goes on on this planet. So just beat me up and take me to wherever. I just for a good old adventure. But I'm also ready to try another planet. I would like to do it too. Yeah, I mean I'm afraid of that. If the mother ship comes, I have like

a little spaceship tattoo. I'm ready for them. Please don't get me if they get you first, would you come and get me to just some say me gonna make one more up. Yeah, I'll do the same for you. We have a handshake deal on that. Okay. Do you have a pet? Yes, okay, what kind of I have a little dog, yeah, money, she's a little dog, like a miniature Yorky like a pocket cute. And do you love money? Not as much as my wife and my

and my daughter. Yeah, Lacy, this was my question because I was going to say, if I pick you up on the spaceship, you're going to bring your pet. You're gonna bring your wife? Oh? My wife? Oh yeah, it's nice. I would definitely bring my cat. He knows, he knows he's sitting here. He knows that cat is my soul mate. You know, if I had the right bird, I'm a bird guy. If I had the right parrot, I would probably there'd be a toss up because I love birds.

I'm just I just want to fly so bad. And the cats and birds don't get along with Those are the two creatures I like the most. I have four cats, and like have lots of tattoos of cats. And I just started looking up the yin and yang of the feminine and masculine. Right, so I was meditating and saw this kind of psychedelic vision and I saw the yin yang symbol, and I always thought it was so cheesy.

I was like, what is this symbol? And then I started researching it and apparently the feminine is all your left side of your body, which I have a torn a cell on my knee. I have a torn hip thing for on stage. I have three discs in my back on the left side and my shoulder all the way up the left side. The feminine is completely fucked and the symbol is a tiger. So I have to, like, I think, I have to balance out the feminine and masculine. That's where I'm met in my life right now. It

really that's not a question. I'm just telling you, well, you know, okay, I think you should just go ahead and do it. Every your soul, in your little heart, you know, just desires and and pushes you any direction. You should be fearless because you I'm not just I'm not, you know, rubbing on you. You got talent. You're really special.

My now, I'll say, my twenty four year old daughter turned me onto you because she's a you just fan, and she came to see you and you played here in San Francisco about five six years ago, and I got her in and she got to meet you. Her name is came up, but anyway, and she she turned me onto you, and it's You're very special. I like, I like your party attitude. You know how to make people feel good and have a good time, and that's almost that's important. Yes, I do. That's that's why I

love you. That's what I'm saying. It's important. It is important, and I think that like you have a good heart, and then on top of that you add just fun and then dancing, which I think is a really like as adults were also self conscious and trying to be so cool that people don't just act like idiot And so by example, I'm like, watch me act like a

fucking idiot and dance around. This is giving you permission to just like lose your mind and act like an idiot and play, because I feel like the animals in the world, they all play. It's important to play. Kids play, and we grow up and we stopped playing unless you're just like super drunk, which I you know, if you want to do that, but yeah, but the same, I

can do it sober the same. But like, I just want to create an environment where people can come just like play like an animal, like a kitten, like a child, like just dance and like have your energy, just get shaken up and just feel like not judged. That's my goal in everything I do. Joy is important. Yeah, it seems like you're like I love your tequila and like I feel like you kind of have that environment to where it's like, come drink some tequila, chill out, and

like you can't drive fifty five. You just can't do it. Bring enjoy to the world is so important for entertainers, and uh, you know, there's artists and there's entertainers and everybody can be I like it when it's all mixed in like yourself and you just you know, you bring a great art and you bring visual and you bring joy and and uh enjoys. Everybody wants to be happy. And if you can make somebody happy, hey you're doing

your job. So yeah, you're like a fucking magician. Okay, if you had a cult, what would your manifesto be? And what would be the dress code? What would be the last manifesto? Your dress code would be like the uniform? Oh well, first naked, absolutely naked, I hate absolutely, and uh the cult would be uh that we yeah, that we just dancing party and play music and eat and drink and everything naked, you know, and not have and not have a weird sexual side to it, you know

what I mean. It's like I mean, I'm sexual. I love it, but but I mean not that be the m O. No exactly, no perverted ship. Just like, hey, we're just naked and we are in front of each other and we can do whatever we want to be free. I would man that my cult would be freedom baby. Just that's a great tagline for your colt. My cult would be freedom baby to a T shirt. Complete freedom. And last question, if and when you are a ghost, how and what would you do to haunt people so

they would know it's you? Oh? What? Mm hmmm, I don't know. I'm wow, I'm not sure I'd come and haunt people really definitely haunt people. You can be a friendly haunting. Okay, you know what I do. I love to cook and eat. I'm a nut about cooking, but you know, in good food and good wine and stuff. Oh man, I would make things smell really good. Man, I'd like funk with him. Did Jill somebody cooking some

food around here? You know, something like that's great? Yeah, they'd be coming downstairs chicken or kitchen and say, well, and I thought somebody was cooking? Who knew? I've learned so much about you. My version of hunting if I when I'm a ghost, is I'm going. I apparently can't put towels up like they're all over and all my clothes her everywhere, So I would just come in and throw my underwear and towels everywhere, and then I dripped

when I get out of the shower. It's something that me and my boyfriend find about, is apparently I just dripped water everywhere, and then it be the dripping ghost that man. Well, I, oh boy, well, if you ever pass, if you passed before me, I'm gonna be on the lookout. Man, come to the towels everywhere, that'll be me. Oh man, listen, you're you're funny. I had no idea. I knew you would be like this. I knew you would be like this,

but I didn't really know. So now I really know, and it makes me happy that you are what I see and what I meant is what you get right, Oh my god. Fuck yeah. And tell your daughter I said hi, and I love her. And her name is Cama m A came love and Sanskrit. And I want you to someday say hey, I met your dad. Thank you for doing this all right, thank you, Kesha let An honor same. You're the ship. Bye for now, Bye for now, Bye from now, for now,