Good Voodoo vs Bad Voodoo with Big Freedia

know how you doing. I miss you too. We were just talking about how we were supposed to be spending this whole past year making people dance their tits off. That's right, for real, for the whole body, Like, for real, just wear them out. We were going to wear them out onto our honey. Well we still will will. Yes, So everybody get the COVID shots so we can get back to it. Yeah, so we can go shake our asses till we can't anymore. We can go raise some

hell'll chase some rainbows. Girl, Yes, well you seem well. Is that your home? Are you home right now? I love New Orleans? I was thinking about it. Oh I miss it girl, not me. I'm ready to get from I've been thinking about moving and I'm like, should I move to Austin. I boomed to Nashville, and then I was reading up on New Orleans and I was like, funk, should I just moved to New Orleans. It's such a magical city. It is. It's a crazy place. It's crazy,

crazy place. It seems I've spent some time there. But obviously you were like born and raised in New Orleans, right, That's right my whole life. So that's why I'm ready to get the hell away from the words right now. I want to get back on the road, back to the bag and the fans. Me too. I missed that energy, yeah, because you know, just like performing virtually is really weird,

you know. Um, It's like, you know, you don't have the audience to screaming Holly, you don't have the people to touch and feel, and you know the room is not sweating with little drips of water on the wall. So it's just a weird feeling, you know, sometimes in the virtual space. So I definitely want to to feel that energy and love from that stage. You can hear it all in the your green room while you're getting ready,

you know what I'm saying. Yes, it's such a it's such a weird experience for to try to put into words that feeling it is. There's nothing like it. It's nothing like it, and like it's so like anxiety and excitement, anticipation and you're snatched and you're pulled and you're yanked in. Yes, it's definitely a war. But we will you will see me in big free to on stage as soon as it's safe, just for all of our listeners. I am super curious just in reading so much about New Orleans.

There's so many parts about New Orleans that seemed very conducive to being creepy or spooky or supernatural. It feels like a very witchy, like a magic, witchy city. Yeah, you know, there's lots of talk of voodoo here. Um you know, I have a friend who's a boodoo priests and um, you know he reads me sometime. But usually you know, when I go get a reading, it's about um, you know, just life, a life reading and um, you know,

energies and stuff like that. I don't you know, he don't usually be playing with no like witching spells and stuff like that, or no hex to kind of you know, get nobody or nothing like that. But you know, there is here say that there's some voodoo, some the dark side of the voodoo going on as well here in New Orleans. But I keep it on the light side. If I go get a reading, that's good because I saw on you like a is it like a reality show on the clips on YouTube? You're talking about going

to your voodoo priests. Yes, that's him and so so there is like a dark and a light. So it's just like anything like you can pick the light positive side. Voodoo is not just a dark kind of it's a dark thing always. No. You know, they have people who practice the good, you know, kind of good voodoo, and they have people, of course who practice the bad voodoo. So just like anything in life, you got the good

and the bad. And I definitely want to stay with the good though, you know, especially when it comes to some thing like that. I don't want to be having spirits and stuff come and talk to me and touch me and freak me out. You know. I'll watch a lot of movies dealing with you know, um, the weird and and and and the are normal, I would say, um, but I definitely don't want to have to experience any of that, So I definitely keep it on the light side.

I used to funk with like Luigi boards, and I thought it was really fun to try to conjure up spirits. And when I'm on tour, I stay at haunted places. And then all of a sudden, I had an experience with something and I was like, I'm done. That was just too much. Well, I just didn't know what I was doing, and I realized you have to be careful. It's fun, but until some ghost tries to funk with you,

and then it gets very real. Yeah, I've never had too many weird experiences of something, you know of no ghostly like friendly things coming at me or on any of that. And you know, but dar is talk that in New Orleans has a lot of places that's haunted buildings and hotels. And you know they're saying right now on Canal Street the building that collapse, that they're going to have some spirits in there because they still have

people stuck in the rubble right now. Yeah, the building that collapse on Canal Street and they try to like blow it up to get the building to fall down. The building still would not fall. So that has been closed off over a year now. Oh wow, and they're trying to blow it up and make it fall to build something else. Yes, and there's still people bodies in there. Oh my god. That seems like a recipe for some supernatural ingredients. I always start the conversations off with do

you believe in the supernatural? I mean to extend I feel there is another power that bese um you know I but not to experience it into actual see it. You know what I'm saying. It's a it's a thing where it's just always that thought in the back of your mind, you know, is it real? Is it not? So you know, I really haven't had any experience too to really even think that far of man, you know,

is this really real or not? But at some point in my mind I do think that, um, there is an other side, you know what I'm saying, that people have to deal with spirits. It just probably depends on who it comes to and the people that deals with that type of energy and stuff. But that's not my world. Yeah. See, I didn't think it was my world, but now I

want it to be my world. I want to just know everybody's experience because they feel also ties in to your spiritual background too, you know, right, So I mean, that's why I was about to go next. So you know, I do believe in God, and so I do have a spiritual background that comes from being in a church and growing up, um, in the gospel choir and stuff like that. So there is a higher being that you can feel the spirit when when I've been you know, going to church all this time since i was a kid.

So I'm certain that there's an other side like we've been talking about that also visits people and that they believe in it, that their beliefs are strong and and going to church. I read that you kind of were the one that really wanted to go to church and you took your mom to church, and that's I don't know if that was like a true story. And I did the same thing with my mom too. I did, like, you know, I would just try to encourage every out

in the house to go to church. You know, I was the one who was always at church every Sunday, acquired rehearsal on Saturdays, you know, at Bible study. So I was just trying to make sure that my family was saved as well, and then they knew God. And um, you know, my my mom she started all bringing us to church when we were small, so she actually instilled it in me, and I just going and I will pull them back, you know, with me every now and then.

That's it's so funny because I've always been drawn to the church, and I just think it's about finding the one that suits you. Like I went to a lot of different ones that didn't feel quite right, but then when I found just I almost had to find the church that fit me. And it kind of is a very unique thing that I hold inside myself and I know my morals. I know love is good. I know, you know. That's like what I've come to is I take from all different kinds of religions and just take

the most positive pieces. Yeah, in my mind, I have my own church. And it was so much fun making raising hell and performing that with you and when we tour, because we will't just creating that almost like I really wanted to create that with you, and I think we did. It was like welcome to church, and the churches like love one another, Yeah, shake your eyes and love one another. Well,

I mean, you know that's what it's about. And and and you know, the people us we make up the church, the church that they call the church is just the building the churches inside of us, and um, you know, we make it up. So you know, I enjoyed making Raising Hell and because it did have a spiritual background and it felt really good, and you it was something fun for our audience to be able to you know, have the church in them and let it out and

express themselves and in the way that they want. So you know, it's all about having what's inside if you come out absolutely, I feel like it is it is what's inside of you. And I've never heard it said that way, but it is. A church is just where you go to celebrate life and focus on the good and try to bring out the good and be honest about yourself, but in a building with other people. And then the singing part of churches would always drew me

to church as well. Like I was never in a choir, but you were in a choir, right yes, And I was the quiet direct there. Yeah, and that's like where you started singing, right yeah, that's the most funnest part. You know. For me, it was always the music that that drew everybody together and brought us together. Um, you know, it was just like you can put on a good

gospel song. You have people standing up clapping, you have people shouting, you have people dancing, you know, and that's where the spirit came in when those mom that's what happened, and it was through the music. Yes, And I love when it all kind of happens at the same time. I feel like music can be a really spiritual experience. It can mean Yeah, so many different emotions you know, can come out of music, from happy to say to you know in between two to dancing. It's just so

many things that come from come from it. And that's the fun part to see, especially in church, when it all happens at the same time, because you have good all of the things, the energy, the expulsion of sounds and clapping and singing and all of that. Community. I find community also for like as my church, my church's music and my church's community. And I love being able to create a space where we can all come and do that. And that's what raising hell is really about.

For me. It's I'm not a perfect person, far from it. And I like to do some ship that people would probably categorizes not in the way of the Lord, but maybe not. I mean, just like getting drunk and running around and acting a fool, but it's all like in good fun. And I think as long as you treat people with respect and you're good, then that God or higher consciousness, that's that's the exchange of energy. Oh yeah,

I mean, that's what it's about. You know. The song had great energy and and it brought people together, and it gave us all a reason to want to raise Hell just about enjoying life and living life and living in our truth. And you know, it brings the community of different people together and that was that was the biggest part of bringing all these people together and doing something positive through music, because you know, everybody might not be able to get up and go to church, but

this is their church. We're giving them a piece of church that relates to their religion or relates to uh they're higher being or you know, their spiritual feeling. And that's what's important. You know, He works in mysterious ways, and he puts you know, us in different positions where people are able to deliver and and make people know who He is and in many different ways. And and somebody may have got you know, closer to God listening

to Raising Hell. I hope, so that would be amazing I'm certain, I'm certain for sure that someone did well. And Chasing Rainbows too, like that song was so special is so special. I was listening to it earlier because my nieces in the video, my brother was just telling you and she loves it, and she was the one. She's about five. She told me that you were going to be on the New Yar's Eve show. Yes, that

was How was that? Oh? It was great. I mean the experience, you know, just doing something on a positive note bringing in the new year in the countdown, I had a blast. I can't wait to do it again, and you know, hopefully next year I do it again. You know, it was a lot. I just wish that the world was open and that I could have had the whole New Orleans behind me as we were doing it, you know, because we have to kind of be like socially distanced and people in these little circles and stuff.

But you know, next year, we're doing what we can to try to stay sane and connected even with all this going on. I know that you're killing it. And I also heard I'm pretty sure I heard one of your songs in a commercial like last night, but I didn't. It went by so fast. One of your songs in a commercial right now, yeah, JUBIDERM Yes, face filler is that the lip filler? I was reading about, uh, Queen Marie Lavaux, and I was so taken by her story. Do you know about her? Like the queen of Voodoo

and New Orleans? And she just sounded like a wonderful person. She helped feed people that couldn't afford to buy food, clothes, kids on the streets, and just in like reading about New Orleans. It's made me want to dive deeper into what voodoo is because I think when I first hear about it, you know, I'm from Nashville and then I live in l A. It's a it's a removed thing from my culture that I lived through. But it seems like a really interesting and she seemed like a beautiful person.

It seems like a really interesting religion. What means I think that you know, um, you know, in life, certain people have certain positions that they feel, and I think she did a great thing for New Orleans just in the community. Um, that's just like divine prints. He helped a lot of people. He's always in tune to the community and trying to help people to you know, going the right direction or sphere of their life in the direction in the right direction. That's why he's always doing readings.

And I think that, you know, she was another person that UM has that's kind of the same path where you're helping the community and helping people to kind of, you know, fix something in their life that they UM, you know, can fix before it becomes something else. When I went to see the Voodoo Priests, UM, and you saw that I was probably crying on the show. You know, he had told me that he had sought death on my brother and that he needs to fix some things

before it's too late. I told my brother, and UM, he still wasn't fixing the things that he needs to fix. And not long after me and the brutal pre spoke, my brother was killed. And so I saw that. Thank you. But I'm just saying that people can feel some things and know some things and have a connection what a spirit and and be able to tell you things to kind of help you down the line, and you should, you know, sometimes take advice and listen. And I'll pre

warn my brother. I tried to save him and did everything in my power, and he just wouldn't listen and things happen. So you know, spirits do um play their part. You know, I listened to the Holy Spirit all the time and try to let a guide me in the right direction and keep me on the right path. Absolutely, I feel like I'm also I have a team of angels or spirits. I'm not sure it's kind of you can use whatever word, but just I feel like I'm

not alone. And I can tell if I'm making a decision that's not a good decision, I can like, bitch, maybe I where you look at that decision. Maybe try to fix that decision because that's not you're not going in the right direction. Yeah, and you know I feel the same exactly what you just said, Like you know there are you know, a spirit that guides us and um. I also feel like I have guardian angels, you know, my mom, my uncle, all the people who have helped me.

If I can hear my mom saying, oh, don't do that ship that is I'm no, don't do it. You know I can hear saying yes, this is the direction you want to go in. And she is my guardian angel now who walks with me and on my side. And and I'm always saying she's clearing paths for me for certain things. You know, I genuinely think it's true because there have been so many times in my life

I can't see what's happening or why it's happening. And then later on, after you've had to go through this ship storm or something really difficult, then you understand why it happened. Yeah, it clicks in. It clicks in, and be like, oh, that that was the reason. You know, this is why this happened to get to this. You know, I totally feel it, Like even this year, I feel like this past year has been so difficult and just overwhelmingly intense. I don't know how it's been for you.

I actually want to ask you it's been for you. It's saying it's crazy, so so crazy, unlike anything I've ever experienced in my life, saying especially you know, I'm we always want to go, we're always working, were always creating, and to just have to kind of all of that just stopped all at once. You know, it messages you up, It really messages you up, and they put you in a whole different mind frame. You know, then you have to try to figure out new ways and things and

it's a lot. So yeah, I think my spirit helped guide me through this quarantine as well, because I was in the first couple of weeks, I was freaking out my album had just dropped. I didn't get the promo it, you know, I had to be called off a little promo tour as soon as they dropped. So it was just all kind of weird feelings and spaces I was in. And I think the spirit has definitely helped guide me not to lose my mind. I'm with you the first couple of like the first couple of months I was.

I remember calling my therapist and being like, I think I'm losing my mind and she said, no, You're having a spiritual awakening. And I was like, but why does

it feel like I'm going just completely insane? And I think it's like you said, we just are always on the always creating, always putting all this energy into all these things, and then to just have like a cold stop right after I just put my album out too, and I canceled the whole tour with you and all the promo, and I felt like I just poured my heart and soul into making this thing and it never

got to Yeah, to flourish. Listen, we and I'm telling we had the same feelings and I was just like you know, but it also gave us a chance to reevaluate ourselves and to reevaluate our life and our surroundings and everything around us. And it gave us a chance to just take a break for ourself and you know,

really just look at things in a different light. You know. Um, now we can create a new sound and a new energy and a new wave of stuff that that, you know, after looking over what we just went through in the last year, now it's twenty one, we can create something new and give people a new a new space of energy, love, music, light, you know. Um, kind of to goal come from where it was in and come into a new space in

you know, we all went through something. So now we we have the opportunity to use our platforms to create new sounds and and all of that, you know. And so I'm interested to see how this year will go versus last year. You know me too. It's come out with a bang of a start, with a bunch of crazy shit already going on. But I'm I'm hoping between Army Hammer being accountable and the insurrection on the Capitol,

all of those things. Hopefully, like we got out of our system for this year and we can just get the vaccine make some new music. I feel so, um, so different than I did a year ago. And I'm excited to see what other artists are going to make out at this time because I just feel like we all feel weird about it, we all feel crazy about it, and now it's time to channel that in the art, which is exciting. Yeah, it is exciting, and it's scary. Yeah,

it's excited and scary at the same time. So um, you know, and I've I've been really happy about what I've been creating, um lately. You know what I did do though, just to keep busy. You know, I was doing a little shakedown Fridays in my backyard when Quarantine thought it and I had thought at the little cooking chill, but the but I was going to the studio more than ever and creating sounds and channeling my energy and letting you know, shipped out in the in the in

the box. And so I'm excited about the new wave of music that will be coming this year. And um, you know, I'm just in a different as you know, I've even when I perform, I'm in a different space and it's just it's really weird. You haven't performed except for virtual stuff. But that's what I'm saying. It's been virtual and I've had maybe like maybe three gigs that was out into the public and and so, um, just

a weird balance now. And it's just like I want to get back to that, to that feeling, you know, of where I was, and it's just so weird now. So I'm excited to see where it's going to go. Though, um once everything open back up, and will I get back there or will will they go into a whole

new direction? You know, Well that's the thing. It could take you in a whole new direction, which is scary, but it's also so exciting to maybe have I've taken this year because that was what I was worried about too. I'm like, I want to get back to something like maybe I don't want to get back to something, maybe I want to get into who I've become. And and just knowing that, I feel like a very deep change

in myself. It's exciting but terrifying. It is it is so well, hopefully this your girl, we get to go on so where Inchiano? All of that okay, and we won't be tired from promo so we can really check our uses like never before. Yes, I'm ready, God, I mean do. I've been dancing around my house like a complete fool this quarantine. But I'm just practicing, practicing for tour. Listen.

You gotta keep the energy up though, and that's the thing, like, you know, as artists, we have to keep our energy up because you know, we don't want to get lazy and sluggish, and you know when we go out there, we gotta hit it hard. So it's just been like damn, I want to relax, but I also got to keep active. So I've just been on the go constant, constant. You know, it's good for you. I don't know how to relax, and me either, Like it's the I don't know how.

It's the worst. People always like what you do for self care. Um, I go to sleep and try to get a nap. You know that's myself care because I'm always going to go I can't even I like, I get a massage like once a month, but I've been doing that this year, or I'll go to a show. I can't do that this year. I just really missed the human connection, Like I love being able to see you and you're in New Orleans and this is amazing, but I cannot wait to we're in the same room

and so hot. Yes, I listen, girl, you know howavy with when you're like you see somebody and you haven't saw him in forever and everybody's screaming in holl That's gonna be happening all around the world. Just lots of screams. Okay. I can't wait for that moment. I love that it's something to look forward to because after the the was Spanish flu in nineteen seventeen, then came like what was it called, what was the tent called? Yes, the Roaring twenties.

So I'm hoping if we look to history, that there's something that keeps everybody inside and then right afterwards there's an explosion of parties and music and art and wildness and energy and connection. And that's what I'm praying for. Listen. I feel it's going to happen. I definitely feel it.

I've been saying that, you know in the low places that's been sneaking opening, like you know, Atlanta and Houston and all that you know, those people are still like kind of parting a little bit, but the places that have been not really opening, the clubs and the spaces, where did all of this happened. When it do, it's gonna be like Wildfire's shift. People shaking asses everywhere, turning up bottles, popping, you know, laughing and screaming. And I

haven't saw you in years. You know, all that's gonna be going down. It's just gonna be crazy all over the world. I can't wait. I'm just like all my friends, all my fans and just turned up like me too. Oh my god. Yes, you're making me excited just thinking about it, like change, because I got excited. It's coming. It's coming. It's a new year. It's going to come. But oh, speaking of like partying, I've never been to Marty Gras and not maybe not this year. But we're

not having it this year. They weren't even having Mighty Rod. They counseled Mighty Grod girl, And I mean, that's like the biggest thing for New Orleans. That's the you know, that's the money maker here, that's the biggest tourist attraction, and we're not having it. They're talking about some doing, you know, a bite mighty grass, some type of ship, you know, and want me to be the Grandma show girl you get that would be amazing. You want to bike being the big grand Marshal. Do you get a

key to the city. I don't want being a Grand marsha for no parade. That ain't happening. I want to be the Grand Marshal of something, the Grand Marshall when it's actual mighty ground. Okay, we're going to put out a p s A with you saying that. Okay, I would vote for you. I don't know if that helps. But if people vote out up for you, I don't think they pick. They just I don't know how they pick.

I guess somebody has to pick between all of the clubs and like you just it's just a huge party and Marshall usually is at the front of the parade on the on like the biggest float in welcoming everybody to the parade, and you know, waving in this Royal Court is out there with you, and they have the big crown, and you know, it just depends like mostly when it's a celebrity though there they might wear a

costume or they might not. But They're up there waving their things, throwing stuff and you know, just being fabulous. Oh you would be so good at that. Yeah, I've done it before. Yeah, you just haven't been the Grand Marshall on Mighty grid Day. I'm usually on I ride with the Cruel Zulu. So I'm on the float on Mighty Gride Day throwing beads and I'm in a mask and a big bushwig. People don't even know if it's me unless I say something. So I was reading about

the cruise. Are they cruise that like is everybody friends with each other or is it like one crew throws their own parade and the other crew throws around parade? Well, yeah, every crew throws their own parade, usually the bigger cruise that's been around for years, like the Zulu, Um, the

Endemian and Bakers like that. It's an organization and and they have a night that their their parade rose throughout the city and they usually connected with all the all the parades because you know, kings and queens of all the groups have to get together, and you know it's all ran by the city, so they have to they connect everybody together. But they're all separate groups, all throughout the city. Okay, one year, I'm going to come. Yeah, you've gotta come. It's so much fun. You gotta come.

The whole experience is just amazing. I would love that you can be the queen and I'll do whatever. I don't know, I'll be that. We're both gonna be the queen. That that happens all the time, all you gotta baby. That's how they gets all the fabulous beads. You know, the girls up Bourbon Street, they're just titterless all night. That might be me, depending on how many drinks I've had, I might be up there with you, acting very distinguished and waving. It might be the one flashing my titties,

running around trying to I'm a freends mine too. I've never been. It seems like the most fun thing. People always have a wild story when they come back from Idagra what they did in New Orleans. And that's the best thing. Like you always have stories that you can meet with here in great memories and it's it's a great city, you know. I love this city also, which I didn't know this, but when someone passes away, there's

like a funeral parade. Yeah, we celebrate, you know, we celebrate their life and their legacy and um usually we have like the second Line parade come or we have a jazz processional where we play music and we we danced in honor of them in their life, and so like from the time they coming out of the church and to the hearst and putting their casket in where we're like, we're celebrate it in their life and continuing to to let their memories live on. Yeah beautiful, Oh yeah,

I had it. I did it up for my mom. Hearts and carriage, you know, jazz processional, same thing for my brother. Like we we yeah, we celebrate their life. Is it? Is it it all? Do you celebrate Day of the Dead as well, where it's kind of more of a celebration of the people that have passed on?

Say that again, the Day of the Dead, we don't have that, no, we I mean, it's just we usually have so many debts here and so just each funeral, it's like the same thing happening every week or you know, every other day you're you're seeing people celebrating their loved ones life and so that's really not no Day of the Dead. That's every day, you know, somebody's we're losing somebody. Well,

I'm sorry. I've watched your would you call it your documentary or the movie Free to Out a Gun, and that was so moving and just so much about New Orleans I didn't realize, including the passing of your cousin and your brother, And I just want to tell you I'm sorry, because I do see on your Instagram that, yeah, there's a lot we deal with and there's a lot

of ideal with. But you know, I tried to remember those people in good light and good spirit and continue to celebrate their life and their legacy and let them live through me, you know, especially if they're my family and we're connected. I try to remember them by doing something good that they would have done, or something that they could have tried to change. I'll try to do it in my life. It's amazing the documentary you made,

Freed to Got a Gun. It's streaming on Peacock, and it just shows kind of the cyclical issues of gun violence in New Orleans. And as someone that's never lived there and only visited a couple of times, I had no idea that it was one of the top cities for death spike gun violence America and I was just wondering, like, what would you say would be a start to addressing that issue. Well, you know, the guns. It's the guns are the big problem. You know, just being able to

have easy access to guns. Um, these parents not really watching their kids around guns. You know, It's a lot has to happen in order for this to happen. With with with trying to get a balance on these guns, from the companies to the to you know, our local and national leaders, to us as a community. Um. You know, I just went through something this week that was letting me know the reason why I'm fighting so much about this gun violence and trying to get strict a gun laws.

Because my best friend had a birthday party on Friday, and at the party, a five year old baby got hold to a gun and shot a four year old baby in the head. Which all these kids I know and grew up and watched them from when they came out. And this is a family that I'm very connected with. So this is the reason why guns need to, you know, be removed. I mean, if every if there was no guns in the world, we wouldn't be having all these

issues and all these killings. Only people that I think really need guns or our you know, our armies that has to fight for war or you know, defend our country. But you have so many people that just have easy access to guns, and and it's it's it harms all of us in the in and um so, yeah, that's what I dealt with just this week. And it was horrible. The baby is still needs a new skull and so

and he did survive, He did survive. Yeah, but that's so horrifying to think of seeing that happen to such a young person that probably doesn't even understand what they're holding, or so innocent, hasn't even got a chance at life, you know, and all to a gun. You know, the baby went looking at the searching and found how old the cousin's gun that was put away, and it's it's about fifteen children in the room and one gets shot in the head. So I didn't that would be so

scary And I'm so sorry. And after watching your documentary, I it opened my eyes to a lot of things I had no idea about about the gun violence in New Orleans and guns in general. I personally am just

terrified of guns. I don't, you know, the Second Amendment and there's people fighting for their necessity to have guns, and unless you're going and hunting for your dinner or your law enforcement, and that even is like, well they need to yeah, the law enforcement dealing with using less guns, and just the systemic racism under who is getting shot more often than yeah, it's black people, not white people, And just I don't know, the whole monstrosity of guns.

It would be a wonderful thing if we could make them at least harder to get to have to get your mental illness evaluated before you get a firearm, because you know, it's just you. You've given it to people and you really don't know their coredela, their conditions and or or whatever. As long as they got the money, they got the gun, you know. And a lot of times, a lot of these ways that they're transporting the guns or or whatever, people are breaking on the trains and

in different places to get the guns. They just need to be stricker and tighter laws and security in place when all of this stuff is happening. Well, it was a very moving documentary and I urged anybody listening to go watch it. And I'm so sorry again, this is like an ongoing thing that's happening in your life. I want to ask, this is purely just from watching that. How is the younger? He was like ten years old. I think his name is Devon. Devon, Yeah, same as

my boyfriend. And that was crazy that him and my boyfriend has the same name. That is just going fine. He actually just got out of jail. Devon is all grown up that it's not a little kid anymore. Devin has sprouted up to about six three six four. He's taller than me. And you know how small he was when he was on a documentary and I haven't saw him since, and the boy just I don't know. It was like he ate a tree and grow as tall

as the tree. He's doing well though. I've been keeping in contact with him, and you know, he's staying out of trouble. He has to be inside by six pm every day. He has some strict you know, things that he has to do. But he wouldn't be in that position if he was doing right. And you know, hopefully he's going to get on the right path now. And he had to become a victim of the system in order to you know, and now somebody's regulating his life.

That should not be happening as a young kid. You know, he should be able to be free and live his life and be who he wants to be um when he grow up and enjoy life and in his community. But now he has to be inside at a certain time and win an ankle monitor and you know, so hopefully he gets it together and we're gonna keep fighting

with him to stay on the right path. And and see, I think that is going to be something very powerful when he gets older, and that he's going to make some type of change in his world because of the path that he had to go down in order to change his life. Well, if you speak to him, or if there's anything I can do, but just under my love, and I just want to see him win. Yeah me, So we all do, you know, And that's the thing.

We all want to see our kids win, and all the kids in the community, and we want to see them be successful and do something, and you know, we want to break some of these generational curses that's happening, you know, of these kids just following the same thing that they saw and and and and become a victim to the system. And I'm just tired of it. I've been seeing it all my life, and I just want

better from our community. Absolutely, it's a beautiful community. It's fascinating, Like after watching between your documentary and just reading about New Orleans and the history of Mardi Gras and about um Marie wait, I'm gonna sunk up her name, Marie Laveau, just all of it. It's just so vibrant and so full of life. And it's a real shame when a gun gets in the way of someone living a really beautiful, joyous, celebratory, full community loved life because of one stupid moment with

a stupid gun. So it was really touching and thank you for making that, and it really was informative for me. And then sissy bounce. You're one of the queens and there's no sissy bounds. No, it's just see Okay, I'd never heard of the term cissy bound. But then I start and our reporter came and was like, you know, put a title on it. We don't put titles on it. It's just bounced music. I'm a gay artists who happened to do, you know, bounce music, So it's just bounce music. Yeah,

we don't separate it here in New Orleans. Everybody just if you do bounce music, if you just do bounce music, there's no such thing, get straight bounce or sisty bounce. It's all just bounced music. And they tried to put it in a category. But you know, nobody can't box the queen in No, they sure as hell can't. I apologize. I read that. I read that, and I was never head that before. Oh my god, I have done hundreds of articles cleaning that up from one article. It's not

sissy bounce, it's motherfucking bounce period period. Okay, and you are the queen of bounce? And how did that between church and between just like living in New Orleans, was that just like the thing you were drawn to? Did you always know you wanted? No? I did not. So being acquired director, people knew me all around the city. You know, I traveled with the choir, you know, doing music, and you know I was also the choiet directly at

my church home and and my high school. So I was well known with with the choir and with music. And when I transitioned, you know, in in nine um to kind of start stepping into the bounce game, it just kind of happened you know, having fun, you know, with people in my neighborhood, making fun, crazy stuff up, saying it in the neighborhood, grabbing the mic at the

clubs and at the black party, is doing it. And then it's just we started coming becoming the catch and everybody, Oh, you're gonna get on the mic, You're gonna do this, You're gonna do that. And once I went made my first song, there was no looking back. Yeah, the rest is history, queen. Okay, I gotta really, I got like four stupid questions. They're like quick fire. So if you were a ghost, what would be your style of hunting? Your signature? If I was the ghost, what would be

my style of hunting? Probably something sexual. Pulling dicks. Oh my god, yes, I'm gonna pull your dick off. I want to join you in the afterlife if that is okay? Yes? And who would you hunt? I just told you all the boys, the good ones are the bad ones. The good ones, Well, I mean I'll just go, you know, just take a little peek at the good ones. The bad ones. We're gonna hunt them. We're gonna pull there it a hard tug. Yeah, we're gonna squeeze those balls.

I love that, Okay. And if you had a cult, what would be the dress code? If I had a cult, what would be the dress code? Uh, probably something dealing with booty shorts. Some as shorts, you know, but you just a little two cheeks out. You know, you got four shorts on, but just a little two cheeks, like two little circles on the back. My coat will be

very much dealing with lots of ash shaking. I love that that is your, like, at least your stage cult and family and people that come to the show's Like when I met you on that cruise ship, it was the most ass heavy place I've ever been. Like everybody as soon as you got up on stage, everyone took their ass out. It was like, that's how I'm supposed to be the take your ass out. Yeah. The power of the as it brings people together. You know. That is the most beautiful way to end a podcast. And

you should make that into a T shirt. Okay, Yes I will. It's so good to see you. Thank you so much for coming on here. Love you, love you girl. Okay, I'll see you hopefully very soon. Yes you will, girl. The alright creepy, alright, creepy bye,