The greatest bulwark against the state isn't online activist, but rather powerful local families that have both the means and skin in the game to resist foreign power. Welcome to Keith's night. Don't tread on anyone. And the libertarian Institute today. I have so Bishop the author of that. Excellent quote. He is the assistant editor at The mises Institute. Mr. Bishop if people want to find your collection of work, where is the best place to go?
What is Paleo libertarianism? The Paleo libertarianism was a deliberate strategy promoted by Murray rothbard, Lew Rockwell Justin raimondo and others in the 90s that kind of recognized two important things for one. You have to time.
Their obviously. This is a post-cold war political environment and they recognize that The Boogeyman of the Soviet Union, which not the below the little obviously, the horrific Sure of that regime, but that had long been used as the justification for the expansion of the American Empire and for a hawkish foreign policy, which is sell translated and variety of domestic stems. And alongside of that, it was about 20 years. After really, a true, American
libertarian movement. If you think as a rothbard fans, you think about, for New Liberty, which is a great book, but what, Ross, hard and Rockwell, and part Guided by the experience of Ron Paul as a Libertarian candidate in the 80s. They recognize that the people who identified as libertarian were not as good as the ideas of libertarian. And and so the Paleo strategy wasn't explicit Outreach to the right.
Particularly the Paleo conservatives in the Pat Buchanan, mold as well as a deliberate attempt to distance themselves from the libertarian movement, as they saw it. In the 90s. There is an excellent article, which you have four. Published called I believe it's called the case for Paleo libertarianism by Lew Rockwell in. There. He says briefly paleo libertarianism with its old roots with its roots in the old right sees 10 things.
Let's go over these ten things. Please explain to me why each one of these is of importance that we should appreciate. Number one, the Leviathan State as an Institutional source of evil throughout history. Yeah, I think that is something that is that there's kind of a ballpoint to libertarian
perspective. But I think in this case is also important with in that, that trying to tap into those old right traditions because in particular kind of harking, back to the ante No Deal coalition of. And that's one of the things I think is so interesting and in both the work of vocal rothbard Rockwell is their appreciation for American political history and one of my favorite articles strategy for a right cross bars and outlines how That's all the
right perspective. A lot of the framing of the dangers of the administrative fade them Alliance state for Libertarians had an outsized impact on that relative movement. So this kind of a hike knowledge meant of the state and anti civilizational School. Number two, the unhampered free market as a moral and practical imperative. Yes, and this is one of again, still at this point. I think the first six or seven or kind of things are going to General libertarian ideas.
But of course, this is important, particularly in this period if framing because of the right Outreach, where the skepticism of the market, sometimes works against some of the perhaps and goals of conservatives. There is a great chapter in Papua kanan's book Church. Kill Hitler in the unnecessary War.
I think it's sarcastically titled, man of the century about Winston Churchill. And he says he cites, that May 11th 1940 was the day that Britain basically engaged in some of the most barbarous heinous acts when they started to try and win the war by focusing on civilian targets. It was all thought up by a guy named Frederick Linda man. So far from moral degeneracy being the result of free markets private property, voluntary exchange and Families.
It's the state where people are so blinded by the belief in political Authority and the erroneous hatred of the quote enemy that they're able to justify things. They would otherwise she has blatantly illegitimate. So, I think Buchanan is such a great Ally. When it comes to showing that the state is the enemy of morality and civilization rather than the free market. Are. There any things you focus on when communicating to conservatives?
Why the free market is something they should appreciate when it comes to wanting to live. Moral and civil lives. One of the important thing right now is I think that will kind of on the defensive because, you know, we're when conservatives talk about like don't like what you do right now and some of the intellection interesting intellectual fears when you're right. I mean, they will attack the word capitalism and much the same way.
The left will as kind of using that as a description of the current state. And I think that one of the priorities I think this is this is not only, I think, an important theoretical Point obviously and an improved way of properly understand the world that's exist. But also strategic points that you know, we have to highlight the degree, particularly what the objections out.
There are often, even for example, right now, that the corporate consolidation of power big Tech, the Black Rock and things like that. And so highlighting that a lot of their complaint about About big business about these monopolies and things like that are not the product.
Either the result of a free market that some of these trainee other than the trade Arrangement that I've Rosen since the 90s or not free trade, but government managed trade, which is why Ralph Buchanan were allies on NASA and others, but really the consequence of global of financialization of and the role of the fed and and the the disconnect of sound money as being a Major Benchmark that if you politicize size of an inch and any try to build houses, I mean that's going to create some
issues and get kind of same way that we have with the issue with fiat currency and as members of the economy.
If they exist today for trying to engage in a meaningful way, what the often we it's a game of semantics and it's a bit but it's a problem is is that if we get frustrated and throw up our hands and don't engage on this issue, did not Not only does it prevent us from working with people like Pat Buchanan that have a proper understanding of the dangers of the American Empire and pox Americana, but also it will necessarily make whatever the American Ride and whatever power.
It has less libertarian by simply lacking any serious engagement on these things seriously. So it's like, I think this is the key area of intellectual discussion that why paleo Libertarians Are so important because they were the only ones that can kind of communicate on Comics dog sheet. I think that's so vitally
important. So, while the conservatives are absolutely right about big Tech being more or less a criminal Syndicate. At this point, the US government just seized 22 websites the other day, including press tv.com. So it's not that should we have a free market where bad things happen or a political system instead of having bad things? No bad things are going to happen on. Or which system. Would you rather those bad things occur at least in the free market? You have some competition and
lower barriers to entry. So, yeah, excellent point about the big tech conglomerates there. What number Big Tex the problem will kind gesture but I think that's wasn't really interesting thing about rothbart's analysis. They like Teddy Roosevelt who was one of those popular figures that the American rights, the resurrection of his bull moose or Teddy populism, some of that just a pathetic. Right?
You know, Teddy Roosevelt, does admittedly have come this Macho aesthetic, which is I understand. What's popular But ultimately what the lessons are there. Is that me what? Teddy Roosevelt Windows busting trust. He wasn't create you even taking out some of the power he's taking out his rival Sinister
power. And and and so we can like we want to understand the corrupted nature of the Empire itself and particularly considering if you are a cultural conservatives and you don't recognize the degree to which, you know, the debate at all levels of power and are never going to be wheeled in to our advantage. And I think that it also highlights the importance of, we don't want to give further power to 12 to the enemy of DC typical were chasing after the end of
the fucking ballot. So I think the work is never on the Santa Cruz reported some of these your Having State lovers to from apply pressure. There's a much better approach than. So again. That's why they're smooth. Why the battleground of some point? It's also an opportunity that we need to engage with it. Honestly, rather than kind of retreating to the easy talking point.
Exactly Point number. Three by Lew Rockwell private property as an economic and moral necessity for a free Society. Strong protection of property rights given few institutions that can push back against the prevailing Zeitgeist of the day and obviously given where the cultural lovers of Power are right. Now. Again, if you are, even if you're a great American conservative, without any sort of sympathies to libertarianism as as a spin one philosophy, you
should appreciate that. You're in the minority when it comes to over the power. That's when appreciation of property rights, a failure to appreciate property rights and suicidal. Point Number Four, The Garrison State as a preeminent threat to Liberty and social well-being. Yes, and I think this is particularly interesting right now because, you know, we're in a period right now.
If you'd war on domestic Terror, Glenn Greenwald among other been great, particles of this change, the by Administration and and even though kind of maybe the argument to pass about standing armies and things like that. It's because concealed Antiquated a time. What we're seeing now is federal use of Grant programs to local law enforcement.
Aunt as as a means of trying. Then you and of course, the more, the federal government places its fingerprints on local law enforcement, the greater consequence that has when you think of kind of prevailing Grassroots movements, but for in nullification laws and things like that you want law enforcement. If you're going to have you know, a body dedicated to law enforcement and property of production of for your protection of property rights.
You Want it to be made up of those in the community. Not those Allied to a district capital. Point number five, the welfare state as organized theft that victimizes producers and eventually even its clients and that is something that I think it was a focal point of important because in that used to be a very common held tradition with the old bright and of course, you know, the issues quickly. Now, there's this Rising economic populist argument that will try to make conservative
defenses of the welfare state. Of course, I think one of the things that makes this little bit different than the Deal is living on inflationary environment, the store, you know, because we've lived in a period of consistent Improvement of material well-being for a variety of different reasons. Once that change, as we move into an inflationary environment, a lot of the considerations of the right economic. Let's go out the window.
When you start feeling real consequences to welfare programs in my life. Point number six, civil liberties based on property rights as essential to a just society. And I think the key there is good, grounding it in property, right? Rather abstract nature of the Vic, right? Which is kind of the religion of the Empire. Yeah. So that's the warning there.
I think it's very particular, very important Point number seven, the egalitarian ethic as morally, reprehensible and destructive of private property and social Authority. And this is when, you know, with the article illumination for that distance an area where some Libertarians or disagree in understand place though, and I think importantly so and I think this kind of gets the goal you. This is why you know recently in conversations with Dave Smith and others.
It's my the conversation kind of be like a watered down into the Republican Party versus libertarian party for me. My underlying to me. Those are the consequences. Camera large triply for have, which is being a Liberty Movement at the unified and he is going to bang. I think counterproductive precisely because of disagreements on these next three points here. I think show a significant disagreements and what should it be Society? Be if you after the state.
And, of course, the university, he rejection, egalitarian, be egalitarian ISM. As a romantic ideal or a name, obviously reflected and He must read article and rothbard zagal Shrine of the galaxy arianism has a revolt against Nate, but also something that is very baked into like the worldview of food Von mises and others. So, again, this, this is where you start getting the fun cultural differences within the
libertarian movement. Sure. And rothbard, excellent point in that book, the collection of essays yell terrorism as revolt against nature. He says that, you know, it might be a little Infusing seeing presidents in the most powerful people on Earth, talking about equality, like you. And I are so unequal me and, you know, Boris Johnson at the G7, the need for a quality, your million times more powerful than I'll ever be.
And he says, this is a brilliant tactic, because it's not only undefinable, but it's unachievable under any system fascism syndicalism, capitalism socialism, whatever you want to call it. So it the existence of a lack of equality. Justifies further egalitarian legislation, which justifies more and more, and more. And it, it just is a, I think the, the term itself, licking ice cream cone is how it's like, you invade a country mess things up and say, well, look how bad things are.
We need to really step it up in here. So, again, this, this happens Point number eight, social Authority. As embodied in the Family Church community and other intermediating institutions, as helping protect the The individual from the state and as necessary for the free and a virtuous Society. Can't get it to the point that you open the comment. I was getting that you quoted at the beginning of episode of said II, there's no greater defense against the reform of the state.
It's not simply the levers of power and the raw brutality of the fifth of government, but it was also a bit of a cultural Zeitgeist they did and it requires self-sustaining strong Networks. To withstand that and of course, beautiful. We are, we are not hyper or atomized individuals. We are born into families, who
are born into communities. We are born into language groups and religions, and all of these aspects that is recite, Human Society is so much deeper than simply our political Viewpoint. And again, this is something that you meet these. It's something that I think it's very telling when you see some of the target. For example, Nick left and I'm not trying to compete cheap shot but like In the past.
He has explicitly Define his view of libertarianism as the promotion of all What alternative Lifestyles. And of course, that's something that would be, you know, that that is not the way that they are lured. Von mises a man of Old Europe would be defining a liberalism properly understood and I didn't go to some of the cultural differences there. Yeah, it almost has this critical theory approach of alternative lifestyle.
So in other words if we convince everyone of self-ownership non-aggression and private property live. Bert arianism would then mean an alternative to the current practicing of voluntary exchanges and voluntary contracts. There's nothing to even sink your teeth into with that, Gillespie definition. You going at the Funny, Bone, a, for carrying all that, all the of, all of the great things. I'm not putting all of that. But especially this last year has really helped me.
Is that Liberty is not an individual value. It is this fairly a collective value. Yeah. I thought were man and a tyrannical regime doesn't have a lot of freedom but a, being a member of a society that values Freedom, as an end. That is what actually a lot of people live free, not simply, you know, Argue about who's the most Libertarian person and, you know, Amazon Gulag right at the difference there. Sure. That's why I love that. Image of individualism and collectivism.
In the individual, they're shaking hands and the collectivists. Their hands are cuffed and they're being forced to shake. So it's not everyone does their own thing. You know, as Henry hazlitt said, you can't even make a pencil by yourself. You can't even come close. So, therefore it, we're all in this together. We want to do so on a voluntary. Peace. All private property, ethic
basis. Yes. I think that's a vitally important point for us to appreciate number nine, Western culture as eminently, worthy of preservation and defense and, and obviously pushed back to get any sort of sort of recognition of the degree to, which Liberty with the uniquely Western virtue. And from that extrapolated it what what they direct byproduct of Christian culture. And again, this is true regardless of your view on the theology involved.
It has been dabbling in the culture that evolved in the west grounded in judeo Christian values. And that's rough Reiko work on the threat on what made the west or the what the other European miracle in the like the other. There's also it's a very good. This is another area where my views have changed. Last few years with what I, you know, full appreciation of the debt that we owe from that Western Christian Legacy. It regardless of your religious views. Have you read?
Gosh, it's been so long. I think it's it's Tom. Woods is book how the Catholic church built Western Civilization. I've not read that one in particular. I have read rothbart's history of economic thought which pays a lot of It is Rich. I acknowledge the contributions of the Catholic church and
within that it currently. Now, based off the recommendation of her met Eric and I'm reading Tom Hollands Dominion, which, which provides Chris or proper historical context for just how revolutionary the example of
Christ was. And that's a fact this has been a fascinating read but it's something I remember a few years ago at the Institute during our research conference Dania, Jamie and David wonderful talk on the cost of the Enlightenment, much was one of those radical things that are seeing. It was saying a lot and that really invite questions, you know, sort of the classical sort of liberal framework.
There's anyone out there. If you're if you're in this topic, that talk has been something, I'd highly recommend. Oh, yeah. Well, it's what we need to learn the lessons that were constantly saying with everything there are
costs and benefits. Even you know, what, the guy Theodore John Kaczynski was talking about all the costs of the Industrial Revolution. Ellucian and how it can lead to, you know, people not being in families and communities and feeling that the whole world is on their shoulders alone. They don't have people to lean on. So yeah, there's a there's cost to everything one thing about Western Civilization. Molyneux Stefan.
Molyneux. The philosopher said that doubt is the one thing that makes Western Civilization unique. Going back to Socrates willing to question, fundamental ideas. Scientists willing to question. In the Pope's Authority separation of church and state. I think you're gonna go to hell if you don't believe what I believe, but I'm not positive. So I'm still going to let you be free. Do you see doubt as what makes Western Civilization unique and worthy of preservation. All that.
Niall Ferguson his book on has made the West, the best play the highlights that as one of the pisan in. Yeah, I think there's a lot of important Concepts in abstractions that you can't be able to take a foothold in the western world because of those underlying cultural values. And I think that the complex network of them all.
Is what allowed for the flourishing of Liberty and the civilization Point number 10, finally objective standards of morality, especially as found in the judeo Christian tradition as a central to the free and civilized social order. Yep. And again, I get a disc.
This is It's the key of it. And yeah, and it's this is often one of the one of the aspects that is criticized by certain types of libertarian, where it's, because this is kind of a push back against the idea that the NASA is enough, right? You know that. Yeah, that. Yeah. And and, you know, so it is, is it detrimental, you know before? Or a Conservative Christian family live next to a bunch of dude.
It's the things like that. Yeah, they the importance of Community Values for a cohesive society. And and I think that again that this is one of those fun Hots cultural views. And this is also why I guess II think that a rejection of that. As a norm, makes it difficult for a Liberty Movement to result in a cohesive. 12:40, is it
right on that article? Like Luke quotes that Jackie Cooper JK Chesterton something extent of, you know, we agree on what what the evil is. But it is upon the question of what is the good that we call each other's eyes out? And I think about some of these discussions.
I've come with my Erickson and some of the others, then sort of the questioning of what this libertarian movement really stands for, and I think a lot of that stems from disagreement on what, But where do you expect all this to end? And again, I think that, if your goal, if you recognize the strengths of a society grounded in those judeo-christian ethics,
I think that it for one. Helps you prioritize, which issues are out there terms of Outreach, and also makes it a lot easier to identify who those people you should be. Get. You should be reaching out to come. Come, come in to be exact. I really saw this in a post that recently went sort of viral. This was both any Progressive and left libertarian circles. And it was something like why are people always like? Oh, I hope that homeless person doesn't spend the money.
I give them on drugs or alcohol. Once I give them money. It's not my business anymore. That is only something. Someone would they totally left? His mindset would say, I mean, Are you kidding me? You don't care. Whether they use it to get a bus ride to get a job application or use it. I mean, either crystal meth or job application. They don't have they don't have
any standards. Whereas you would never hear any Trump, DeSantis Marjorie, Taylor green supporter say that and when you have that kind of worldview, we should really be aligning with the people who sort of at least recognize the difference there. And again, it comes down to a lot of Libertarians are attracted to the convenient. Ask you that they see libertarianism as a way of kind of justifying life decisions at times.
And I get I did this this goes into some of the Kinks that Lou and Marie had about the libertarian movement that they watched evolved around them. And that's why like why I love so much reading the depth of Mason's as work because even though he was a great Economist, even though he was a proud and passionate author of classical liberal political thought, you know, ultimately what he was. Illustrating, a variety of different disciplines with what are the, what is required for
civilization to thrive? And that requires a lot more than their understanding of an app that requires more than, you know, a belief in Lafayette, their economic policy at the end
in itself. You know, it requires your, what allows for the driving and getting this they terrifying aspect is that you know civilization is who built by having low time, from right, you know, planting trees that are grandkids are going to be able to benefit from and then, you know a a talk show libertarian framework allows you to fully recognize the how structured our institutions are to promote High Time, preference, short, term behavior, and I think a lot of
Libertarians They may differ on the margins State. They they have no problem, reducing human existence down to you know, self-gratification units. And again, I think that's problematic. Excellent points there one things that the conservatives are also right about I think is the importance of identity. I don't know if you've seen these two top trending stories on Twitter, but one was Demi Lovato comes out as non-binary. Man comes out as Korean, he is no longer British.
He identifies as Korean and after 18, plastic surgeries will only respond to you calling him Korean. This is such a sad case of people needing and identity, something to feel Something to Believe In. I can't imagine kids working in the coal mines, saying, I think I'm transgender. I think I'm Korean and then they're beating away. It's like you would never have time for such such bizarre nonsense. Do you think, how do you think Libertarians can?
Benefit from recognizing the importance of identity were regarding the individual and the community. Well, I think I think the community aspect is one of my favorite talks about limiting to. It was Jeff tight Corner libertarian talk where he gets to the point of you know, what were you, what do you want to fight for? And the problem is one of the things, the Libertarians I think take for granted, is they assume that everyone else kind of think like, them or has the ability to
think like them? And the problem is that a lot of people don't like, a lot of people are not motivated by abstract arguments and and concerns with Hyper rational,
logical consistency. They are motivated by a sense of security, by a sense of Pride, by these tribalistic sort of Nature's there and there is A bad habit that can arise from strong intellectual Traditions to think that the real goal is to kind of improve Humanity. Have a evolved past these archaic past rituals, you know, like family and tribe and God and all that sort of stuff. And I think that is given, that that's kind of, underlying Dynamic of progressive was than,
I think, properly understood. And that is something that that Libertarians could benefit from some humility in that regard. And I think there's something to be said about how the old adage of that. Pillar a movement that Libertarians have a lot to learn from conservatives about culture and what it means to maintain a cohesive Society. I'm all conservative a lot to learn from overturned on economic issues. Of course, on page, 197 of
democracy. The God That Failed hunts APA says States. Everywhere were intent upon breaking down and ultimately destroying families and the institutions and layers and hierarchies of authority that are the natural outgrowth of family-based communities, in order to increase and strengthen their own power. What do you think is important for Libertarians to recognize the importance of competing authorities to the state's
attempted Monopoly? As well, I think Libertarians have been better on this than most. I think they people that have needed this this lesson. And I think I've gotten this lesson couldn't card particular past year or conservative particular with the issues in public school system, you know, I think that there have been a naivete about just how much the state particularly that at the
federal level education. North inevitable, stated that do matter but the degree to, which the state of is a benevolent actor. And I think, yeah, I am. I'm encouraged at the degree to, which the the kind of too full for one. Seeing the fruits of our education system often burning down cities last year with with these kind of left. If Mom coupled with the Awakening of the dangers of critical race Theory.
No. More that conservative well recognized that the state institutions are built to undermine their connection to their most important asset their children. That is one of those ways where, you know, a a massive change in the way that they view. Those institutions can considering how many, how many more conservatives are out there, going to tear. And that's something that I think has the potential. Home to do some significant damage to the regime.
There's a number of things that unites people on the quote. Right? And I think this is why we have so much in common with the DeSantis supporters. Trump supporters, Marjorie, Taylor green supporters.
Whereas it's extremely difficult to really get along with some of these left-libertarians, especially ones, you like, who are, you know, defending critical race Theory, the actual racism that is Is a big problem in America so we discussed probably the first main thing that right-wingers have in common, the hatred of egalitarianism specially
egalitarian outcomes. Another thing that connects us is the idea of negative rights that you are not inherently owed something by others Society or the state. What do you think? Do you think focusing on - rights is important? I think it is. So I think there's a, when the use of things that for all of the other failings of the Constitution. It does make a good rhetorical Benchmark.
So, so, again, I'm very sympathetic to the Views, Lysander Spooner. But if your goal is a rhetorical one to communicate, you being able to, to ground your Viewpoint and Founding Fathers, as opposed to an anarchist philosopher, definitely has had some strong. Strength there. But yeah, and that's the beauty of it. I mean, this is why rothbard conceived in Liberty series would have a love letter to the or internships at the founding of the American tradition.
It's something that it's very tempting at consulate. Ryan's, I think to feel that they were involved in, even this kind of tribal connection, but I think grounding that particularly given the advantage that we have, as Eric and in that Heritage makes a whole lot easier to outreach for the
right. And again and if your goal is forming a formidable political alliances, sometimes I think that is a obvious Common Ground. There Thomas Soul said something that connects the right is the constrained view of the world, which is the moral limitations of human beings. In particular, their egocentricity, self-centeredness and selfishness are accepted as inherent Facts of Life.
The Challenge is to make the best Of the possibilities that exist within that constraint rather than waste energy trying to change human nature along with things like, you know, admiration of strength and achievement. Do you see the conflict of Visions or the constrained view as something that should be appreciated? Or is that more of an intellectual thing? We don't exactly need to harp on with conservatives. Now do I think that there's always different?
You could house, but I think that this does go to an important point in highlighting them. Some of those differences that exist of the libertarian ranks, which is important in your Outreach to the right. Because again, I think that that is a rejection of that sort of progressive nature, your Progressive view of humanity is something fixable, you know, you recognizing that we were living in a fallen world and that the plans perhaps made with the best
of intentions will be abused. Used by, if there's ability for the big, be corrupted and abuse people will find means to do so know that that is a level of humility.
If it take it at face, graded provides a level of humility that most Progressive or people that have those very revolutionary view have to reckon with what is the most important thing you've learned from or contribution of Lew Rockwell. I can totally rock wall to be one of the the indefensible men of the idea that Civilization ham of a rider. I mean things such a eloquent,
beautiful and subset of writer. He eat, he writes with this level of gratitude that I think is really kind of key to kind of like kind of a mises Institute for the Fantastic tradition. A lot of ways. I mean the way that he just I'll break figures like nieces and rothbard and never put the
attention on himself. But also, I mean, but more importantly than that is the role of mu as a system Builders and it's an institution Builder and then this one thing I love about sort of mises Institute type. Yeah, I'll do a lot of our material that can look at the development of intellectual movements in the role that institution play in there. That allow idea. Has to really stay in and be kept alive and spread and thrive
in advance, and involved. And the ability of the fact that Lou Rockwell was able to build an institution that has lasted, almost 40 years to the dedication of the ideas of Luis Von mises and the Austrian school because it's truly incredible. And that's why I like anybody out there. Again.
It's if you find an article that of loaded, ring that you disagree, with, if you care at all about Liberty, if you care at all about He's a rapper and about things and you're not grateful for the work that that Lou has. And if you don't deserve to the ideas of the recent rothbard like that, he's done it. Most important thing you learned from literally Von mises. Courage.
We are so lucky. I mean, I mean, Luis Von mises maybe the greatest intellectual figures of human history, as far as I'm concerned, but even greater than any single book that he's had. I mean, that that's there's a lot to be said about. I mean, either the Revit just praxeology as an instrument of Understanding Human Society
Beyond narrowly economic at the. And I didn't know if I could take one of the, the untapped gold mines out there for intellectual output is greater investment in non-economic. Praxeological sort of analysis, a fact that they've given us.
There's so much, you could go down there for, but I think the best book that we have in the midst of bookstore is Is Not Human Action. It's nothing about Ron Paul or problem, Woods. I think it's the biography of the was on me because Because his life, but the way that he lived his life. I think makes his ideas all the more incredible. And so that needs to take all the more seriously, it's against the ability of standing up for
history. No matter the cost for the stakes that as much as to any theoretical concept is something inspiring. Most important thing you learned from me. Rien rothbard. Questioning the historical narrative. I think that we're getting brought economists. Brian, political theater, theorists. And honestly, there's a fact that you have to take that back to the historical narrative. Hardness is very important.
His revisionist work in history for something I learned from him, but even perhaps greater than that, was the recognition that if you truly hate the state that is not enough, you have to And the state and the makeup of the state and hit the fact that you had someone of his intellectual achievement in Kingsville, T, that was not content with simply being an ivory Tower intellectual rather seriously, engage with the question of strategy of ideological Warfare.
That is something it is precisely that that gets to them attacked by Scholars and cushy tenured jobs that aren't particularly worried about their livelihood, but I think that as much as anything else sets them apart and something that obviously has been a tremendous influence on me, and I didn't have two steps work. Most important thing you learned from Hans, Hermann, Hoppa. He has the power of controversy.
I think that there's a lot of great insights that help us brought to the table, but I think it is incredible that he is able to drive his enemies. So crazy, in spite of the fact that he's not on social media, right? Like, you know that there's this is Mystique of him. Because you need, he's living a five-star hotel.
And, you know, he only drinks us from from the clouds once a year PFF sand and may occasionally stir event, either the fact that that he's able just to write a, you know, a deep intellectual piece. But just with these little, these little Jabs that will just drive it when he's crazy II, think that that's one of the reasons why he has it. Kind of resurrected interest in spite of it. There's no reason accomplished be as the the mean that he is,
right? You like and he is precisely because of his ability to for conjurer's, I love others. Just as I think the fascinating intellectual phenomenon as it's for everything else. That's what that is unloved. One of my favorite things that Hapa gives us at the end of democracy. The God That Failed is his Thinking behind, why old-school, conservative small government classical Liberal, Liberal, ideas have not succeeded.
So here are a few quotes from the final chapters of The God, That Failed liberalism Central and monumentous error lies in its theory of government. It is impossible to derive to derive, a justification for government from explicit contracts between private property owners. Once the premise of government is accepted liberals.
Classical Liberals are left. Without argument, when socialist try to pursue this premise without moral argument, at his disposal, a liberal is left only with the tool of cost-benefit analysis. But any such analysis must involve interpersonal. Comparisons of utility, such as comparisons, such comparisons are impossible. Scientifically impermissible. Liberals will have to recognize no government can be contractually justified. I just love that from Lou. Where he says that we sort of
give them too much wiggle room. Socialists. So that's why I'm not surprised when I see Lindsey Graham next to Benjamin Netanyahu holding a sign that says more for Israel. Oh, why not more? Why not help people what's wrong with the government doing anything to help a group. If you buy into government, you of course would believe such
nonsense like that. Well, finally, I want to ask you what you think Libertarians can learn from the successful campaigns of Ron DeSantis, Donald Trump and Marjorie Taylor green. Variation of the unit party. Consensus of what was the sexual part of the form looks like and the degree to which point I'm in the past. Is that Trump, in many ways, is the anti Reagan both like Reagan and Trump, both had great campaign rhetoric. Both Reagan and Trump had at best imperfect record in the
presidency. The Differences though. Is that Reagan convinced conservative to trust the institutions that hated conservative America. Whereas Trump has awakened conservative America to the degree to, which these institutions hate them. And that is something that if you're a Libertarian and don't don't recognize the value at play when you have 50 plus million Republicans, that know that the Joe Biden ministrations, illegitimate. I mean, this is, this is the
best opportunity I've ever had. And I didn't really understand the lessons when Adam You think they're, we understand the degree to, which federal power, depends upon perception of
legitimate basis. In terms of on DeSantis, his success, his successful campaign was an illustration of the power of trump as a political force, but I think the success, his governorship goes to the degree to which some Republicans are waking up to the nature of the cathedral, you know, as it has been popularized of light because ultimately, you know, his, Reason why he has to be the leading figure of the Republican
Party coach. Trump today, is him standing up to the public policy experts and falchi sending up in the corporate, press setting up to universities, which it has been one of the strengths of this legislative session. In fact, you're really dealing with the serious power structures. Rather than the thought of ceremonial democracy at the federal level. And the case of market failure, green. I think it is degree to the degree to, which the Trump model
scales again, microfiber. Libertarian, I don't think she wants to legalize recreational cocaine tomorrow, but she questions the narrative in important ways. She's attacked warmonger. She attacked a neocon. She has a pack of many of those same enemies that Trump has, which is a minute. He's a Libertarian should have. If you don't have those enemies, that's time for some self-reflection. And so, I think the Marjorie Tyler Greene, and that gate food though.
They are obvious allies for those. Those who recognize the biggest threat to Liberty, is the centralized power of the regime properly understood rather, and that's it, the best help that we have politically within. The American perspective is kind of a a war.
It is a movement of National Liberation away from that centralized isolated power and I think that stands and In contrast to the more revolutionary mindset of, you know, wanting in capistan or, you know, say I think that there are means to achieve a more radical libertarian Society, but is going to be exit from the current political regime, rather than some sort of grand Revolution within the political regime. Again, I'm all for see. Setting, I'm offer special economic Sounds.
I'm all for me, returning Honduras and to gulp Gulch, whatever. But if you're interested in American politics, in a way of creating, perhaps up libertarian idea, but something a little bit more free. There's something to be learned from prompt, DeSantis merger each other green that gate the whole ranked couldn't couldn't agree more on. It was the day that, you know, the election was given to Biden that there was this huge, you
know, protest. Outside of the Arizona capitol and I remember thinking, they all think that the government is going to be illegitimate. I need to get down there. So I put on my black and yellow flag because I go I got to stand out somehow and I went down there. I could not get people to stop talking to me about about the
black and yellow flag. People asked me for my podcast where as you know, the average podcaster trying to compete in this field as like, you know, really trying to push themselves out there. People who like. Oh, please write it down. I want to make sure can I find it on alternative sites? Because you know YouTube is Twitter ban Trump and that is going to ban Trump and this is
ridiculous. So yeah, I think you're so right on with, you know, that being very unique territory for us to really appreciate and make the most of any final thoughts on Paleo libertarianism while we close out. I'ma get the beauty of it. I simply and building off the shoulders of far greater men. And you know, I it's been exciting to see people like yourself interested and pursuing, you know, I think it's really a great heat.
Well of serious libertarian thought and you know, I think it is a time a and idea that once again kind of come and and at the very least, I think, I think that it is healthy to have a Libertarian movement. We're all not sharing the same bumper sticker slogan. And so again, it's this is going to be a fun period of time and I look forward to the publishing more triple law and and providing some original content
about this current age. Thank you everyone for watching Keith Knight. Don't tread on anyone in the libertarian Institute. Mr. Bishop. Thank you so much for your time. Take care.