Staying Sane in an Insane World. Matthew Raphael Johnson, Ph.D. & Keith Knight

Don't make me today is dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson. Dr. Johnson. How can we distinguish truth from falsehood with regard to historical events? Of course, this is the central question of my entire existence. and, The last thing you can do in this respect is to go into a question with the answer already in your mind. And the only way to do that is to divest yourself of any self-interest. And I knew this from the beginning, special pleading makes people sound like idiots.

You have to be able to control your emotions. You have to be able to prepare yourself for uncomfortable results. When you begin reading for major issues like you're talking about, it is the reading involved is tremendous. And you have to get the lay of the land as far as the literature is concerned. Primary document gonna depend on the issue were talking about

here. Primary documents were always nice, but they're often misleading because just because their primary doesn't mean that they're they're good and interpretation from other successfully in very sensitive areas, interpretations by other Scholars, especially today is very suspect to. So you're going to have to be prepared to be alone to be attacked to be uncomfortable. That's your absolute first ingredient.

It's basic honesty and I think very few people are capable of that self-interest is involved be Financial ideological religious. You're going to sound foolish, except for people who don't know anything about You know, I went from Catholicism and Orthodoxy, which was a brutal transition. For me, over several years are rejecting capitalism. These took a life to read myself into these things.

So, you know, as a basic the way, it's been over the last few years, when I find academic historians and Talking Heads agreeing with the position. I often assume it's wrong, especially if they don't really give good reasons one, good example is a rohingya so-called. Rohingya crisis in southern Burma. No one has ever given a good reason as to why the Burmese government has been reporting an

attacking them. Just because they're different or something very, you know, very vague like that but they don't give a good cui Bono, then that's when you have to start working or that's how we got into the Burmese situation. Johnson's law, of course is very important. If no one knows anything about a topic. Your audience doesn't know anything. Well, why do you work so hard for you to say? Hey give a basic outline, you know, if you're wrong, you're wrong. No One's Gonna know.

So ultimately truth of Truth and falsehood. Of the historical event is responsibility of the author. And the only way to do it is to eliminate and destroy self-interest. And it's very difficult for me to admit to the to Crime of the Orthodox Church for example, but I know I have two from time to time and I think our listeners and readers respect us for. You know, one of the work, of course, you know, there's a million different things we could talk about in this respect.

But whenever your emotions, your connections, financially, or otherwise or involved, that's probably one topic, you shouldn't be researching. When it comes to the crimes of the Soviet Union, you wrote an entire book on this. When you start this project. What do you start looking for? Secondary sources and then primary, or you go straight to primary by passing other current interpretations. Well, a lot of my books came from separate articles.

That I put together rewrote kind of standardized citations and then the book comes into existence, there have been a few times. Like my very first book, I wrote the book as such. There's some usually to irritation. That that there's a myth. There's a story that sounds so probably absurd that I have to fix it. That's where the first Rome came from lectures on medieval Russia, came from my University course on that topic, and I just rewrote those and make those

into a standard text. So that was simply to get that stuff out there. My Serbia book came from a document. I found the library from Dickinson University is no one who was there from a prince of the Royal family type written in English, so I can't say I have a standard method but usually it's some kind of irritation. Something is not being said that there is lies. Don't have any real support to it.

They don't even trying to make a good case and I start with an article and I end up with 100 pages so and but generally speaking, my books are lectures, put together and then standardized aren't, you know, essays put together and but it's still for the same reason, fourth primary secondary sources. The great thing about secondary sources that they tell you where the primary sources are. And thank God. We live in the age of the web where all these things can be looked up in red.

Let me give you one example. This is just a minute. You mentioned that is this occurred to me. I would say and I am a supporter of the historical figure of general suharto of Indonesia, who wiped out the Communist party and 1966. I've always claimed that the u.s. Was not particularly into communist. That was never a big issue with them. They didn't support these military dictators in Latin America are out the warehouse where the review mentally opposed to them in most cases.

That's an old myth. I hope book about that on the military dictators of Latin America was on Amazon now. This is bombshell New York Times New York Times article came out couple of years ago, said the CIA knew about this and supported this. And we have these 12 documentary 12 cables from the embassy, that that's a it. Well, they're assuming that no one can read this. Well, I went I read 12 cables and it says nothing of the kind.

So either they read it and just lied or didn't read it at all. And it turns out the government was not involved in killing these Communists. They were often just handing him over to the Islamic movement and different parts of Indonesia and they were dispatching them. He saved course, Indonesia from falling under Soviet orbit, orbit in the 60s. And of course, he has to be punished for that.

He was never particularly supported by the us, but for them to come out and say that the CIA was giving him advice. Ice and backing him in knew exactly what was going on and kill as many as you want. And here we have these nine. I think it was 12 or 19, cables documents. All you know, recently Declassified that prove this I read them and then or do they not say that in a few cases.

They almost say the opposite. I have to admit, you know, there's one good thing about Wikipedia and that Wikipedia usually has some of the best bibliography. We're all the primary sources can be found. Yes. That's the one use it has otherwise, it's pretty useless. So it's going to depend on the question. If there's a contentious issue that the primary sources don't agree. I'm sorry, a secondary sources. Don't agree on our especially if

they all agree which is worse. Then you have to go to the Commence the extent that they're available. You know, sometimes the originals, you know, people are there people, they have their self-interested, they exaggerated. They want to can see on the self-important, all this stuff, you know, so even primary sources have to be read critically. When it comes to the crimes of the Soviet Union, can you give me an example of one of their earlier crimes?

And then we'll go later. Give me an example of the crime and how, you know, it took place. Well, let's talk just before we started speaking. When you mentioned that topic, I thought of the holodomor D, the starvation of Ukraine under Stalin, there are some Russian Nationals obvious. I'm not one of them. That either deny this, or minimize this. Well, again, thank God for the web because all the primary

sources are online. You have Soviet bureaucrats, who is no via Stalin himself talking about this policy. It wasn't Secret. Ultimately, this came down to I have a actually a part of it. I don't know if it was a my Soviet book or not. I can never remember but because I end with Stalin there but the primary sources is the only place you can go. This is what Walter Durante was trying to cover up. You got the Nobel Prize for that which I think has been withdrawn.

So for years, no one even talked about that. And so, whenever you challenged, you have no choice but to go to primary sources. And here is an overview of one is very important. And of course, Ukrainian websites have been promoting these for for quite a while, but now thanks to the web. We can read these for ourselves. The holiday more is often dismissed as a famine that could

occur in any country. What are some other Crimes of the Soviet Union that you can say, or actually calculated acts of Evil by Lenin Stalin Khrushchev or anyone else? Probably the best, one of the best examples is over a period of roughly a decade. The collectivization of agriculture. This was an issue, Lennon advocated this as well. This is one of the great Crimes of the USSR. Where people who had no knowledge of farming or agriculture will put in charge

of essentially prison camps. Where people who didn't know, each other, random people were forced to work. They were given very little money for the crop and we're always tightly under under under guard. And this led to is one of the things of course, led to the famine. It's one of the things that bottomed out the Soviet economy and it was eventually abandoned, but over a period of a few years.

When it was first introduced in the early Stone are It led to a massive number of deaths, mental edge, of starvation, and people simply weren't working because it wasn't worth it to work anymore. So these are all these crimes are connected. The early rebellions against the Soviet government where every one of them had at least one Massacre attached to it, you know, this goes on and on. And again for these things collectivization was policy.

That's not any no one denies. That the fact that it was a failure is in the primary documents to because after a while, you know, no one disagreed but you know because of the u.s. Thing obsession with Hitler. This is not as widely known but collectivization and this is the case in Mouse China to even even Pol Pot for that matter. He's the greatest crime that was there. Minted. I think in history.

Do you take those two countries? You have something like 40 million deaths, either starvation, or overworked, whatever. And the worst part is that it meant that the United States had to feed them. Russia was feeding the world under the czar's. but when collectivization took place, They were starving. And of course, the US was right there, and they were always dependent on Western food Aid and food purchases to exist. You can't really have a cold war if you're, if you're feeding

your enemy. So for the sheer number of deaths, I suppose could never really be pinpointed. But I think I'm not going to even Venture a guess certainly in the millions. But but that it's, you know, period of time that was introduced it agriculture collapse. You executions you have people

refusing to work and you had starvation. as far as the massacres go, is that how they would increase power over certain industries or groups of people by first committing in Massacre as a show of force to intimidate everyone else, where would these massacres take place and why you know after the kronstadt Rebellion You had a whole bunch of these and because I'm all over the place where and of course it's a catchy tune. It came, it was something like the Genghis.

Khan idea or the Tamerlane idea I should say, you commit a massacre, you're going to save lives, because no one's going to resist after that. Yeah, often what the Soviets would do, is there was a peasant rebellion and a lot of people even have names. They would dress up in peasant, garb. And start shooting and start shooting and then turn turn on them and start shooting them. And then commit, a terrible crime, you know?

And say if there was a certain uniform or something like that, they did this all the time they functioned by duplicity constantly, in this respect and propaganda eventually control over people, propaganda is really important humiliation. We could talk about, you know, Israel pumping pornography into the occupied territory. The constant demoralisation of your enemy is was extremely important.

No one did like the Soviets did. That's what the Soviet press, you know, how they function and life in the camps. We just talked about the gulag such turned out to be responsible for maybe twenty percent of the Soviet economy, even even after Stalin died and it never quite went away. So, ethnic nationalism was something that I had to destroy. And again, that's where the holodomor comes in. I think it was a Novia was a few others Applebaum. Is his real name? Made it clear that this wasn't

so much an economic matter. But worrying about a prosperous group of farmers that did very well, very skilled. And also had a strong nationalist Foundation. That was the reason for their holodomor wiping out that class was extremely important. And I'm willing to go so far as to say that the Soviets, wouldn't worry too much about

starvation in certain places. A because, you know, it's what they wanted and be they knew that they could rely on others to take care of the food problem for them. They never solve the food problem. That was because the collectivization, the Virgin lands program in the most southern part of the USSR where Lance had never been tilled before, you had deportees sent down there under favorable terms, but nowhere to store

anything. Roads that were too small or too weak to support any kind of truck in the stupidest things. And one of the reasons that he was overthrown, it because of the failure of the Virgin lands program became a mockery. And again, you have starvation who have death you have in. This was part of the agricultural crop is coming from here. All their plans fell apart and that was a simple, incompetence and stupidity. I mentioned before you have these, I got many cases.

Soften Jewish commissars sent to these areas to oversee. These things that have no idea what agriculture is. They don't know what they've ever been to a farm before. So, you know, but the gulag system. I want to just say the gulag system is your overarching crime of the Soviet Union. You have this, this network of camps, big part of the economy where a ridiculous number of people were sent and is almost not quite, but almost certain

death. And was this people indiscriminately sent to gulags or all political prisoners or anyone who technically committed a crime? How was it that you ended up there? Oh, yeah. I've read a ton of stuff in Russian concerning the gulag system and there is a tremendous amount of disagreement in this respect. Dozen Eaton's idea is that there was this General political suspicion. Based on the anonymous denunciation. That got you sent there.

Those now higher up, people who were an irritant or a threat to the system were sent there. I'm going to make a distinction between the gulag system. In the mental institutions. The mental institutions came later. And that was the basic basis of the institution was and Soviet Psychiatry. If you could even call it that was that opposition to the Soviet regime meant.

You must be, we would call antisocial almost schizophrenic and you can see this even in Youth and they were experimented on and not a whole lot of came out of it. But again, the mental institutions or another or another crime, but as far as a goo launcher concerned, there was a very brief trial. The were you know terms 5-10 years the smaller term you often would come back and it was forced labor. So of course had to be able to

do that. Usually there were some reason for it. You're connected with someone who's a rebel, you are a rebel yourself, you publish something. You said something, you can't enforce 100% of course because there's not enough men, but wherever they could find something, one of my favorite story and solzhenitsyn mentions and I forget where now you've written on it. So many things that they'd be transported through the city's in Disguise trucks. And I would say meet deliveries.

So not only were they lying about what was happening, but people thought there's so much so much Prosperity here. That look at the meat. Trucks are everywhere. So the entire thing was based on deceit. So of course there was some indiscriminate stuff, but I don't think that was the bulk of it. There had to be a trial and then a term assigned to it.

When it comes to what being sent to Siberia is this just an expression or thing that actually took place and why what other they were there were camps everywhere. The North Sea. And some of these other places were nasty only because they were so far north, nobody. Do you have bitter Winters, but then you're being killed by mosquitoes in the summer. Did you have someone standing warm standing water Peter, the Great did that when he constructed st. Petersburg?

He he sent Cossack powa get a group of people who hated who had resisted him in the past to work in dig this thing out. You had a hundred thousand deaths at a very low estimate. So st. Petersburg was literally built on the bones of his enemies. It was almost an occult ritual that he defected was an occult ritual. So this isn't a new thing. Siberia fabric, you know, the southern part of Siberia is very beautiful. The northern part is very difficult.

I think phone, most beautiful landscapes in the world, but they had camps up there for various reasons, but camps were

in every part of the USSR. Looking at other crimes committed by Communists. I'm mainly focusing on this because there was a study came out, 29% of gen Z kids in college, have no problem with Communism and think it's a good idea that everything be collectively owned 17% of professors in the social sciences say that they identify as Marxist. Of course, the venona files come out showing. That Joseph McCarthy was right, there were about 300. Word and 50 communist in the

state department. The rosenbergs Harry Dexter white, Alger Hiss Etc. So because the term communism isn't put in front of our face. It doesn't, we forget to register that it's actually a problem and all degrees moving towards that is, is also an issue when it comes to why you are an anti-communist. Why is that? That the theory itself is absurd. It denies the family. It denies the nation. It denies any political system except the rule of the party.

That doesn't mean I haven't learned things from Karl, Marx Karl Marx's early. Writings are actually very good, the role of money money, dissolves everything, but the destruction of national cultures, Is a part of policy, you know, you talked about like a Soviet or Chinese Communist Massacre. I was just doing this with the in Vietnam concerning Vietnam that's actually part of policy.

When you other governments may do it more or less as an aberration, but when cleansing the nation of undesirables, who are not people in their minds becomes a part of the agenda and it has always been a part of the agenda. Massacres whatever it is, are are praiseworthy. Remember Marxist are pure materials, which is another giant problem with me. If human beings are nothing more than flesh and motion. Then what difference does it make if one is killed or not? So, but Marcus early writings

are very interesting. There is something to be said about surplus-value. I'm not 100% sure about the labor theory of value. But but that does not mean Marxism as a system is is viable. So, you know, it's such a struggle to deal with it. You have such a low level of understanding. We talking about the younger kids.

They like labels a lot. You could promote a system does not call it Marxist their Styles and if the label isn't on it, then that they're good, but you know the historical living among academics historical. Level is so low, the knowledge is so bad and it's getting worse, not to mention. The fact that you are in a disease that economy the last days of Empire here were no, you don't have oligarchy anymore.

You have Monopoly. And because no one knows anything about the right-wing alternatives to capitalism syndicalism or whatever. They simply assume that the only possible art, alternative is Marxism. You know, marks was again, as bakunin said, in the first International Market, received a lot of money from the Rothschilds and a lot of this completely destroyed other forms of collective ownership. The Prudhoe honest.

I've always been very sympathetic to to pierre-joseph Prudhoe, but these are very obscure, most people. So the capitalist system is obviously failed miserably. And that's, you can even cover that anymore. Therefore, communism must be true and I'm willing to, I'm willing to bet that's pretty much. That's again, it goes propaganda, ignorant or the only possible art. Alternative is some version of

Communism, mean, a call. It that call it something else, but I mentioned the bakunin March thing. He received money from the Rothschilds. One of the things that came from that was that every other kind of socialism. It appeared. They were pretty much kicked out of the first International socialism. You had a million different versions of socialism over the over the centuries. And and I'm told this based on the community, not in the collective. Those are two different things.

And those were wiped out of the first International, therefore people began to think and we're ignorant. Begin to think that if you're anti-capitalist, therefore, you must be a communist. What is propaganda and how can it be identified? I'm pretty sure propaganda is a pejorative. You know, when you are a government or ruling class. That has no right to rule.

Your only option is to manipulate people getting them to think that you have a right to rule or that whatever you're doing is in their best interest or the final manifestation of historical cycle or the apogee of Justice. And so you have to control the press and such a way that they begin. Not just writing this in at Orioles, but picking stories and ideas and talking about them with that in mind. Because people work all the time

and they have kids. And if they don't, they don't have a lot of time to think critically about this Americans, especially, don't think systematically. They know, a few sound bites. They know a few slogans. And it's not, you know, politics for them is like rooting for the Steelers. So, what the second part of your question, what is propaganda? And what, and how can it be identified? Yeah, you know, it's simple,

special pleading. It can be identified because usually Propaganda in its purest, form doesn't make a whole lot of sense, you know? Special pleading is the idea that because yourself interested you have to set up a double standard and, you know, propaganda tends to have a pretty in America. It has a pretty uniform

structure. They use a lot of vague words, a lot of slogans, a lot of repetition, a lot of pointing to Authority. They claim that they're somehow Rebels. And when you have the music industry publishing Academia, not every every institution concerning Communications in the country, saying the same thing. It's pretty remarkable. But the assumptions, the sloganeering and the lack of cui Bono. Been saying for a long time. What the way you can identify this is that they never give a reason.

I think about the so-called concentration camps in western China, which I have a paper on. No one has ever explained. Why the heck? They're doing that. /. How is it in their interest? They're trying to build up the economy of that part of the world. It's very desolate and so-called concentration camps are in fact, education center. They desperately need the

there's a whole policy. The equal is equal lives in the western part to the eastern part and to resettle people out there, the think that given that policy, they have any interest in causing, you know, violent Warfare death is absurd. And you can say this for a lot of places. What, what is it? How is this regime, whatever government you're talking about? What is our interest in doing this? Why in Heaven's name?

Are they spending so much resources, putting so much resources to destroying a certain group of people, or whatever the with a claim in and propaganda. Often will never give you that or they'll give it in in a very vague way. It's significant that Karl Marx. Never described. What a communist society would look like at its final stage. Everything was critical of what was almost everything was critical of, what was the anarchist? Didn't do that.

So a lot of vague sloganeering the use of buzzwords. Weak arguments, the lack of cui Bono logical, inconsistencies and uniformity with other people in that field. That's a pretty quick and easy way to, to recognize propaganda and amateurism in the field. I've always said that in, you can always spot an Indian historical question. You can always spot an amateur when they start using modern Western terms to describe a an old, Much older Society.

So someone talking about human rights when they're talking about Plato like Allan Bloom. Did you have to laugh? You can't hold them to that stay. They had no concept of what that would be. So that's this one quick example of how and it's a propaganda. Although, in a historical sense. I could spot it without it. Yeah, even things like phony quotes. I can spot a phony quote, right? Right off the bat. And it usually is that someone is condemning themselves.

So the quote about London, that lending the saying I'm going to kill everybody. I'm gonna hang babies in Great Britain. Our party is to destroy to destroy civilization. You know, stuff like that. And you know, they're not going to say that about themselves. They're not going to condemn themselves. They're going to say that they are the apogee of History. Lenin does say, he has to cleanse Society, but only with, you know, the best interest in mind.

No one is going to admit that there's going to hang people for no reason and that, or whole party this, you know, death and destruction. That's what we're here for. But phony quotes from lens, Stone Hitler. They all day. They say the same thing, and it's really easy to identify some That would never say something. It doesn't make any sense. That's when your expert propagandist, they'll never say.

So that's how you could but. That's just one other example, the phony quotes I've got so many of these things that circulate on the web quotations that they use tribute to people. So many of them are false and I don't know why people can identify the fact that no one is going to condemn themselves in front of others. So so that's that's the issue here. You wrote a paper and I had trouble finding which paper this was from.

But you spoke about the importance of tradition and far from being something that just idiots do and is unnecessary and something we should throw out and replace with pure logic. There actually is a good reason to embrace tradition and a large utility in doing. So why is tradition important? Well, tradition isn't some arbitrary set of practice it. Traditions concerning the family, for example, these are a

part of natural law. A man and woman, the extended family living Under One Roof, the tight-knit community of a family and all of the rituals that go along with it. This is a part of natural law. Only in modern societies. Have they tried to destroy the Soviet Union one of the first tradition among other things is. What works? What's worked in the past? What people have gotten used to

their? Not an institution isn't tradition, but practices within the institution, are our tradition and the Orthodox Church. For example, the claim is made that tradition is the unwritten. Doctrines of Christ. And the apostles, the unwritten doctrines that or even even those that are written in obscure because only so much you can fit on a page and tradition is one of the touchstones of truth. If you could trace it back to the to the apostolic era or

thereabouts. So, tradition makes is an alienation is based on a traditions and customs encapsulated in language. These are structures of survival. They didn't come from nothing. And they came from struggle. They came from foreign occupation suffering. Starvation. Traditions didn't come from nowhere. They are protective shield for population. And is that why the Communists? And tyrants of any flavor if we only call them communist? We're only going to be looking

for them. So tyrants of any flavor, hating tradition and hating the family structure, because they see it as a competing Allegiance. They see it as a hurdle. You getting them to have this sort of Monopoly on Authority within a certain region. When we Elizabeth. The first was colonizing Ireland, especially in the northern part. She made it very clear. It's actually her exact quote was. We're going to make sure that this generation has no idea what

the who the grandparents were. And she began a campaign of burning, and torching monastic, libraries, and any possible written source of of identity. Therefore, there's no foundation for Rebellion. Peter, the Great. Created this myth that Russia before him was ignorant and illiterate and he said on a campaign to destroy the annals of the noble families throughout the country. Which is, which were a huge source of local history. And he did a very good job of that.

And the point is to make people ignorant about who they are, and he was a revolutionary and soul. So yeah, I agree though, with one of the, one of the marks of a tyrant, a true Tyrant is their hatred of any kind of competing ideologies turning, any kind of competing institution. So I think your instincts are perfect in that. Capitalism do is exactly the same way. Coca-Cola goes into a place like Indonesia and does everything in its power.

This is actually the book about this to destroy the tea industry and they ran advertisements and they had things put into TV, shows something that T is for a lady's, you're not strong, and not manly, whatever it is. If you're drinking that stuff, Coke is what you want to do. They went out of their way to make tea drinking. Effeminate to destroy Nate, they almost succeeded. So, again, that's a very minor tradition of tea drinking, but it wasn't minor for Coke.

I'm not sure how successful that was but you have internal document. That was actually Benjamin. Barber is Jihad versus make world that story at first read there. So competing ideas competing institutions have to go remember the family centuries ago, wasn't the nuclear family. That's a creation of the 1950. The family was a with the extended family will talk about hundreds of people. You don't have the mobile

Society like you had now. The Serbian numb, but evil, Serbian unit of society was this family and hundreds and hundreds of people, it would include. Of course, obviously involves were included. But also servants, anyone who works for you and you were treated all pretty much in the same way under a, under a patriarchal head. So, we talk about things like the family and the institution to go along with it. All right. Sorry the Traditions that go along with it.

Remember what they meant. And which is I'm glad I mentioned that because it did remind me of a very important idea words today. And this has been a big multi Crusade of mine. Don't mean what they meant a hundred years ago, weather trends wife's and other ones. And I've seen this before, a family, is that classic example of is. Another example law is. Another example politics is another example. Words have been so mangled today that to take that mangled

definition and to read it back. Centuries ago is assure a route to error and family is one of them. You weren't talking about, you weren't talking about and everything was communal. Everything was about social belonging. You don't have the isolated individual in the basement, like you have today. None of that existed in previous centuries. So taking these words. And using them for earlier civilizations is again a sign of amateurism May well be a

identifying marker propaganda? Because again, going back to that question propaganda is false again. It's a yard, you can't have positive propaganda, you know, it's like can't have loving loving rape, you know, it's by definition of battery. So unless we again, so these are some of your marks for that and we could, we could talk for

hours on that question. Speaking of words that have different meanings, the type of capitalism that I would support would be defined from a PhD from Lost University of Las Vegas, Nevada Hans Hapa in his book, a theory of socialism and capitalism, and he says we can have two sorts of approaches to things. We could have communism the abolition of private property socialism. The institutionalized aggression against private property.

Or capitalism the institutionalized recognition or a social system based on the explicit recognition of private property and non-aggressive, contracts between individuals and private property owners. Wouldn't you say capitalism? What are you referring to? Well, capitalism is and I think I'm pretty sure. Karl Marx coined the term means the rule of capital. It does not mean the free

market. Yeah, and again, even the free market I have issues with, but capitalism is the rule of Corporation, especially banks, that create the market rather than satisfied. They can get away with paying low wages. They are they are at War almost with their community. And the concept is is that you privatize profits and externalized costs. And if there's anything that defines the capitalism of today, it would be that. But it's in the interests of corporate America to do these things.

It's in the self-interest of corporate America to have their people in the FDA. Or anywhere. I mean a defense industry is heavily represented in the Pentagon in uniform and if they retire they go off and work for Boeing. It's in their interest to do that. So I don't believe it's an aberration. But these companies that have grown that strong. Know how to protect themselves.

And this is what they do. It's hard today to talk about the distinction between government and the private sector because it really doesn't exist. It's an outmoded idea. When you have first of all, government agencies, privatized all over the place, having contractors. On the other hand, having this revolving door between the public and private sector.

You know, so Facebook and Great Britain hired a group of former Facebook Executives. Sorry Executives in there and their version of the FCC to sit on their board. So they knew exactly what they had to do to get their way. And this happens, you know, BlackRock, of course an extreme example where the central banks of the major central banks of

the world. They at least have one representative of the BlackRock board and That's when you know, it's a monopoly, you can't get any stronger than that. So it's in their interest to do these things. So it's really difficult for us to even talk about the difference between the state, the state apparatus, and the private sector. They've grown so powerful that that you can't tell them apart. And the debt that the u.s. Is in is such that they need to privatize these things.

It's almost like the sale of officers and he can Century France. So, but I don't think that's an aberration. I think I think, you know, capitalism has a natural course. And and that's really what it is. So if you want to maintain the reign of small business workers control, you have to have laws that keep that from happening. And hope is someone who I've read. I don't remember that. I read it so long ago, but so that's why I would come down on that. The free market has tremendous

benefits. I'm not so sure it exists in most places anymore. Let's get into the Holocaust.

I want to Define that term so we know we're talking about the same thing. The three pillars that I think are necessary to know what we're talking about. Is one the Holocaust means a plan to exterminate European jewelry by the National Socialist regime in Germany, 26 million deaths, took place three, these were intentional. That's primarily using gas Chambers as a method of execution. So using that term in those ways. I'm going to try and steal man.

The case for why I do say that the Holocaust is something that that happened. I think the original justification, of course, was referred to as the evaru agreement or the transfer agreement, which was expulsion from Of Jews out of Europe and into places in Madagascar. There was also an alliance with Zionist where they had the same exact interest getting Jews out of Europe.

So one of the first things that I think got this Holocaust operation moving was having millions of Jews under National Socialist control during the war. Say, 1942 era Nazi saw them as an enemy security. Risk taking up the scarce resources.

In a time of War 1942, you have Operation, Reinhard trains arriving at belzec sobibor and Treblinka roughly 2.4 million Jews. Altogether, six hundred thousand Russian Jews, 1.8 million Jews. I believe the inability to account for where vels Jews were after the war is an example that we have of them. Actually getting killed. When it comes to evidence from gurbles, I have is Diary March 27. 1942, he said, sixty percent of Europe's Jews have been

liquidated on December 12th. 1942 grbl says, we already have to answer for some things. If we do not want to run the risk of gradually becoming discovered, October 7th, 1943. He says, beginning in February 24, I'm sorry garbles begins to speak of the Jewish, question in the past tense as something that is behind them. So originally the thesis was, well, they just had to Terminate enemies of the Empire.

They were security risk, they could have revolted and weekend, Nazi power in Europe, but then they just needed the labor force because things were not going as successful as they wanted to on the Eastern Front. Next piece of evidence. I have in 1943. I have the core report. Himmler received the statistical report. He commissioned from SS Master esthetician.

Dr. Richard core core referred to this as a final extended report Himmler. Or had wanted the report at the beginning of 1943 and core represented him with the first provisional report on March 23rd asking for a few more months until July to present the final extended report. The figure he came up with was two million, four hundred nineteen thousand six hundred and fifty-six, 1.7 killed in extermination camps and six hundred and thirty three thousand on the Eastern Front. Finally.

We have Himmler. Saying in May 24 1944. I believe gentleman that you know me, well, enough to realize I am not a bloodthirsty man or a man who takes pleasure or find sport in the harsher things. He must do. When I recognize the necessity of something. I will do it unflinchingly as to the Jewish women and children.

I did not believe I had the right to let these children grow up to become Avengers who would kill our fathers and grandchildren that's according to Routledge history of The Holocaust. Finally Himmler says, I am convinced that things would look Bleak for the front that have been built up to the east of the general occupied Poland. If we had not resolved, the Jewish problem there.

If, for example, the ghetto in Lublin or the massive ghetto, in Warsaw with its 500,000, inhabitants were still in existence. So we have core saying that these Jews were dispatched, op gong by a special treatment in the Eastern camps and are now Toad has fallen to the tune of 2.4 million. We have gerbils implying that they need to be killed. We have Himmler saying that it

took place. We have korres report after we also have a large scale revolts in Treblinka and sobibor when it said that those are being shut down, that is an indicator that those Jews responded uniquely because they knew that they were next in line because they were no longer useful for labor. So, So my biggest point is the missing Jews of Operation. Reinhard. Thank you for letting me go on that. That is really all I have to say on the topic as to my why I have my current position.

What is your response to this? Well, I appreciate it. And I have no problem listening to that. I've come across this before. Michael Shermer and a few others. Thank God. This is not a big area for me. I have nothing published on the question. But of course, working for the bond review. I came across and I read most of these reports. The years. I think we both watch the David Cole presentation saying a lot

of these same things. I think I think Cole estimates 2 million as a final death count, which makes them, you know, pretty well off compared to the Belarus ins or the Russians. And that sense. There's a few things to say, some of these reports have been criticized. I'm not there, not authentic, but they're distort. I'm going to say that Himmler is probably your best bet. Himmler and both week, I would think the Posen speech is what you were referring to. He made two of them where it was

almost a bloodthirsty idea. But Himmler was like that. Well, people don't get in an East, you're trying just like the ghettos and everything else you're talking about, an armed partisan population. Not talking about, you know, children and playground in the East especially the German High command always talked about. These partisans is a huge part of the especially, you know, when the Posen speeches were made and what was pretty much over and overwhelmingly.

They were of Jewish background. Overwhelmingly, the political commissars in the Soviet Army were of Jewish background. You're right to talk about the significant curity threat idea. You're also right to bring up the Vara and ring. So I take a moderate position in this respect. My Uncle Mike one of my big problems with the Holocaust in general. It's called the Holocaust. As if they're the only ones that make any difference, you had

Slaughters all over the place. Deliberate Slaughters based on race or ethnicity. This was just one of many. I don't believe in the death camps. I think that, I mean, sorry, the gas Chambers. I think that's been pretty much despatched by now, zyklon, B would be very ineffective in that respect. The analysis of the the fact that the u.s. Couldn't even get to I'll switch, that was a Soviet construction, you know, so there's definitely problems. The Six Million figure is, is an exaggeration.

Like, the six percent figure is an exaggeration. Some of these, you know, I've come across these reports one time or another. The only one that I really would take, seriously, would be him one. And Himmler is talking about the Eastern Front. He's talking about reasons for, and he made these speeches, especially the 40 41. He made these speeches in the face of military defeat. You knew what was happening. There. Were privately talking about the absolute crisis of the Eastern Front.

But the camps were largely self-governed. The right didn't have the resources, especially in 44 45, and I think it was the dean of Holocaust studies who I'm blanking on his name right now. To come to me, you made the claim that the killings occurred in 4445 at a time of extreme crisis. So, many of the numbers. That are purported to be from this Holocaust. Come from starvation. It comes from the fact that the Allies had bombed supply lines touch it.

Even German soldiers weren't getting that weren't getting fed. There's a big debate over how the off switch camp. For example, was organized. They did have their own currency. They did work. So many the Survivor stories are contradictory. Many of them have been exposed as fraudulent. This Is War time. We don't really know what it's like to be. That's why on the losing side of a war and having to wrap rally, your men. I know.

It's pretty commonly accepted that in the East, the partisans played a huge role in the German defeat. But I remember even as a young man, I said, I can't believe that Hitler would spend the tremendous resources necessary to create these camps with millions of people when he had nothing. When, you know, they, they weren't feeding Soldiers. The fuel had had almost run out. He's gonna spend money on that, but they were security threat.

They were hemmed in on both. The Soviets to the east, of course, the German lines to the West, they were attached to the partisan unit, even even in the Warsaw Ghetto. So, these were armed communities, the pogroms of the same way these worked, you know, did not they're not as some people are armed. There's some of them were trained in the Jewish combat Brigade, things like this. They did put up an impressive fight.

But after the war, when reparations were offered the number early on the number that came to claim them was 9 million. But the the number of Jews even within this sphere of influence was certainly less than six million. And I think David Cole and we will agree on that. Respect but like Cole. And like a few others, the political use of the Holocaust is really my big issue. And that this is a way to delegitimize social nationalism because they're allegedly a part

of this. And therefore, the only two options in the world at the time were liberalism and communism, which is exactly what happened after after the war. The establishment of Israel, had a lot to do with the Holocaust. So there's a lot of problems with the feasts. There's a lot of problems with this. Incredibly meticulous mass-produced, death machine and an Empire that was dying. It simply didn't have the

resources to do this. Ultimately, I believe that if you were to ask, if we could resurrect a national socialist Minister today and ask, why are these here? Why are these camps here? They would say because Judaism especially in the Soviet Union is heavily. I'm sorry. Communism in the Soviet Union is heavily Jewish. You have a tremendous amount of sympathy to the USSR amongst the Jewish population of drumming on certainly true. So and that was that was the issue. A lot of the deaf.

Both came from starvation. As I said, Germany was not prepared for that War. I Germany didn't even have long-range bombers or heavy tanks. They invaded the USSR. It was almost a sacrificed Mission. Romanian was her only source. But 1941, there were already. Berlin was already being bombed by the British. They were using mostly light tanks. They had there was no chance of them occupying. The u.s. Is on the Icebreaker book was a brilliant analysis of this.

His military was not all that strong. He had talented Commanders. But so, and this is, this is a huge part of part of the issue. Have this massive Invasion and even the East is really where I'm more comfortable. Anyway, it wasn't an again, a security issue. The Germans simply didn't have the resources.

To engage in something like this, the camp, certainly existed, but starvation on a court disease, typhus, which also is connected to starvation, is responsible for these deaths but there's nothing separating the Jews from a lot of other people in that respect. It was a, you know, he again, because he the u.s. Blocked immigration. The have our agreement and was controlled by Britain and Middle East was controlled by, Britain was blocked there.

And of course, the Madagascar issue, It was French colony and they had taken friends. So again, they were willing to and these agreements Jews could leave, which was a Zionist issue. I think we talked about this, the last time. If I'm not mistaken, it was someone I do. So many of these, I can never remember how our agreement comes up. Quite a bit that I've seen a coin from that they were. It was a, it was a currency used for this as a swastika and one side and star David on the other.

And of course, you currency in the in the camps as well. I've got four, I lost my train of thought we were, these transfers were the first solution. And camps. I guess we're the final, but I don't think they were meant to kill anybody that were meant for labor. And, but God, even as early as

43, the war was over. The luftwaffe had had been had been broken the advance in the Soviet Union was stalled and there was no Hope of Victory. The Soviets were overwhelmingly more powerful than the Germans and the minute. They took Romania. That's it. The Germans are cut off from fuel. That's why they tried to invent a plane that ran on coal.

And that's the context for for lot of this, especially in the East now, no one's going to accept or Justify or do any special pleading for the killing of women and children, especially they're not combatants by the combatants in the Eastern Front often didn't wear uniforms. And that case, that would not be protected by international law. The Guerrilla Army has to have uniform and chain of command.

A lot of these groups did not. So, I don't know how many, where these numbers are coming from what they're basing. It on trying to look important. But when you have 9 million Jews, applying for benefits, at the end of the war, you have a bit of a problem. But ultimately, I think it comes

down to labor and security. And finally deaths were from, again, overwhelmingly from starvation and typhus when it comes to the gas chamber discussion, I think his name is Fran, check Piper. The guy who was director of the Holocaust Museum in David Cole's, first documentary and the 90s with Ernst zündel, where he had said that. What you see when you go to Auschwitz, is actually a Soviet reconstruction of what was previously there.

But so beaten down that the Soviets chose to build it back up in order to preserve its historical Integrity. Are you saying that that is completely fake? And it's a story that was told as atrocity propaganda by the Soviets. Actually, well, of course the camp existed. But it was colds analysis of that years and years ago. That was really my first probably, the very first piece of of information concerning the revisionist point of view of the Holocaust.

When you have walls that have no bullet holes in them. When you have two different kinds of architecture. When you have chimneys that are just almost laid on the top, the Soviets had. Every reason in the world to push all their atrocities onto onto the Germans. They were an easy target that were low hanging fruit. That Captain Massacre is one of the most obvious examples and it's all about propaganda and public opinion. So, the Soviets had an interest in doing them.

Boy, the guy who makes the plaque at Auschwitz, you know, it's got to be a millionaire because every couple of weeks. There's a new number used to be every day. I used to be something like 4 million. Now, it's down to, I don't even know what it's down to them. The numbers, keep shrinking, and shrinking and shrinking, which you would have, you would think that you should be happy for ya.

I never understood that they became such a part of the identity that I don't understand, you know, they should be happy that the numbers aren't that high compared with others. But you know, as far as a juicer concerned that were not the only threat to the German Empire that we're not the only people in the camps what made them special was their wealth? And the fact that they were tremendously sympathetic to the USSR.

Don't forget, Germany, lost a part of its territory in the Bavarian People's Republic for a while. It was entirely Jewish, the Hungarian, People's Republic was exclusively. It was said that the upper levels. In fact, Stalin even said to Béla Kun through name was Cohen. Said okay. Every single person is cabinet is a Jew. Please find someone who's not and make him president and it took a very long time. Again. I'm like know, the name here, the man who became president of

hungry. He's the one who made the speech. So there was some good reason. For him to be very suspicious. But and of course, A desperate need for labor. But by 4445, where most of the deaths were concerned, the war was pretty much over the network of supplies had broken down or I'll was nothing. You had a handful of bring it to get very few guards. At these places. These are all self government.

Every man had to be at the front and you know, Mass Slaughter doesn't make a whole lot of sense. They were meant to work. I think I'll switch initially was a synthetic fuel plan. And you know, but yeah the crimes against them are those crimes against everybody especially against Germany at the end of the war. It's one of many as I started off with the Holocaust. Always irritated me. There's nothing special about this. There was no organized drive to

gas every Jew in the world. It was near the end with result of starvation and panic and we all know what happened to the Nuremberg trials. We know the torture. We know that people were were made to say things. They had to Hermann. Goering is one of my favorites. And so that's work. That's already really what it comes down to and what it during say, at Nuremberg. Okay, that's ready to read it. A few minutes ago. Goring said something similar to Gold and the time, you know, he

wasn't sure what awaited him. A lot of these guys. Thought it mitting, things would get them. A lighter sentence and it was never the case Rudolf höss. The same way. The minute Rudolf hoess. The guy get one of the commandant of Auschwitz sign that document. He rejected it.

He signed this document saying yes, I saw all these gas things and everything else things that didn't make any sense like, you know, guessing opening the door and then putting more people in It takes 20 hours for zyklon B, to be able to be out of the area and make it safe. And these guys had no gloves or anything else. You sign this, he didn't get the the sentence he thought. And then repudiated.

So I would never, I would never take anything that comes from nurnberg as a. I wouldn't take it. Seriously, I would never take it at face value. And how did this six million gas chamber? Plan to exterminate. How did this ball get rolling? What do you mean? I don't think it was a plan. What do you talk about? I mean, how did it look? Let's say that. What we're dealing with here is a historical fabrication. How did what is the origin of this gas chamber, extermination line?

How did it start? That's that's a very good question. It's very hard to answer. I think it does start in the USSR. It took a while for this in the Holocaust, was not a common word until the 60s. Really until after the Six-Day War, it began to be promoted before them returning, jian's talked about the mass starvation, the bodies that they found and although the concept of this mask gassing had been around from the very end of the war.

It didn't become a matter of Popular parlance until several decades. Later. So now I'm going to do have Soviet propaganda and Soviet papers being written on this very problem. That was was big into this but also the survivors And again, it's just one group of people. I do not take seriously, the survivors of these camps. Everyone tells a different story. Everyone's a hero. Everyone did tremendous things. We need such a badge of honor for these people that you, of course.

They have a slight defectors from North Korea. They have every reason in the world to accentuate their important. So it wasn't instant. It took quite a while for this to get a ball rolling as, as you would say Nuremberg, of course, was just the first step. Up, but people didn't realize just how bad nürnberg was from a legal point of view, how so many of the admissions there were false or done under duress, or done her. Some kind of promise or simply from from Panic or mental

illness. Is one of the reasons that the Soviets were able to take that and increase it and the 6 million I think is a significant figure. In the Kabbalah. The number 6 is always been significant and I think the very first time the Six Million figure was used during the pogroms in the late 19th century. The earliest I could find the Pittsburgh Jewish news mentioned six million killed in the kitchen. If program I'm almost certain about that 6 million in the Soviet.

I'm sorry in the Russian Empire comes up again and again and again either killed or imprisoned. So the Six Million figure was also used after World War One. I can't, I don't have the citation on off the top of my head. But I have an entire list of usage of the word of the phrase, six million, going back to, at least the end of the 19th century.

So, you know, Jews are very powerful in media do specially after the foundation of Israel, had an interest in this always had an interest in this, the Allies had an interest in this. The Allies, you know, carpet-bombed, Germany and Japan. They could have surrendered in 1943 but Roosevelt wanted Total War and abject surrender, which led to mass deaths. I wonder if that didn't happen. What would have happened to the camps? So it's not hard for this to get off the ground when you have a

so many people. So many powerful people who have an interest in promoting making the Germans look, terrible. This is oral or one case to making the Germans look terrible Justified. Everything that They did, you got to automatique bombs on Japan. You had the torching of cities sometimes of no military value. You had the mass killing to PO, wff pows after the war. The sinking of ships with German refugees on it is it, you know, and when you when that's happening need to justify it.

And a lot of these camp stories, so that's that. That's the list of things, you know, survivors media Soviets the allies and this belief that somehow when you see it pile bodies, there was somehow murdered on purpose rather than starve door or died of some disease and I still World War Two vets used to say that all the time and they went into the other camps. This will be of interest. I'm going to say is the most powerful and I think they got the ball rolling but not until the 60s.

Becoming a common thing when I think of other historical lies, one of the ones that it's amazing. The power that lies can have when they're just Omission lies

that it was never explicitly. Said to me, Germany started the bombing, but it was so heavily implied that I just always assumed it. Until I read people like Nicholson Baker, his book, human smoke until I read Pat Buchanan's Churchill Hitler in the unnecessary War where he cites Frederick, Lindemann. Who was a an advisor to Churchill in the scientific area, where he was very Pro bombing, civilian areas to hit the morale of people in Germany,

and Baker, in human smoke just list off all the German cities that had been bomb before there was ever a bomb dropped on Britain. So so so many lives are not explicit. There's just heavily nudged and implied yesterday. There was one Bob Bloom. Argh. Oh gosh. It was one of the Bloomberg Outlets. They said here are here's a list of, you know, people who died at the January. 6th, quote Insurrection. First, Brian sick. Nick is an officer who died

after getting in a fight. What they don't tell you is he had gone to the hospital and later had a stroke. The next day. He was in horrible condition. They don't mention, of course, that there was a drug overdose and out of the, you know, hundreds of thousands of people. All that were quote involved, some diet of unrelated causes.

So the fact that we're living through explicit lies like this, or if you remember Trump saying the whole white National saying that, but there were fine people on both sides. He was referring to the Statue debate, not find people on both sides of the, you know, klansmen, antifa debacle. We see these in real time. There was one that said, Donald Trump told people to Drink bleach when he was talking about using disinfectant light as a method of killing a virus, which

is an actual thing. So, we have real examples in, you know, twenty twenty. One of many people buying into explicit lies. What are some other big historical lies outside of the second world war? Oh my god. Do you have seven hours? I do you have you have 10 hours? Uh, oh not for you. Yeah, of course. Yes.

I have a paper on the. Well, there's I have papers on everything, my God. I already mentioned the military dictators of Latin America. The left has had a Stranglehold on that narrative largely, because the Catholic church is on their side for decades. I can, I was barely able to find anything in Spanish or in English. That gave a positive review. Of any of these guns, Pinochet was one exception because he's well known. They claim is, is that these people had no etiology.

There were simply out for power. That's not true that they serve the landlord class, which most certainly is not true. And that there were supported by the United States. Not only isn't true, you know, even people like Batista.

We're popular in Cuba. Most of these guys are military dictatorship develops because the civilian government collapses and it collapses because they can't come to any consensus on what to do about the Usually, it's some kind of hyperinflation or mass unemployment or recovery from something and the usually wealthy people bickering and nothing gets done. The minute a military man takes

action. So one of these guys are from the lower classes from The Peasant classes, they become very popular and they tend in certain most places to get the

job done very well. You know, the military took over for this every country in Latin America one time or another for this because the Communists were bombing people in the street that they were torching police station, and whether you have the drug money mixed into that and when the military was overthrown, then you had these banana republics connected with the IMF taking over and then they fall deeper and deeper into

into poverty. So that's that's a big one for me. You know, really if you want to talk about all the lies of the other ruling class. It's my my brain freezes. I'm going to tell you that everything and I mean everything that the average educated American believes about the world was false. So let's let's take a an example of a fake testimony in the early 90s in Desert Storm. There was a woman called the Nigerian naira the nurse from Kuwait who had said on TV.

It's recorded. You can see her crying that. While she was in Kuwait. The Iraqi Army came in took the babies out of the incubators and left them to die in the cold floor. This was repeated by President of America, George Bush senior, at the time. Also, by a number of Senators. This is an example of atrocity propaganda because it turns out an organization Hill and Knowlton had worked with the US ambassador to Kuwait.

And that was his daughter. This woman was not a nurse in Kuwait. So if we could fall for a scam in the 90s, when there's a lot more, when there's more people with more access to TVs, who could maybe counteracts. Of narrative like that. It's not too unreal to think that lies like that can go widespread.

I'm trying to think 09:11 had something to do with invading Afghanistan. That was one because there was a plan to invade Afghanistan called National Security, Presidential Directive 9, I think on September 4th 2001, which was mentioned by Donald Rumsfeld and is March 23 2004 testimony to Congress So the plan was already in action people just That they did it because of 9/11. But what are what are some other ones?

Because I really want to nail this, I really want to nail this down that there are widespread wide believed historical lies that are false and they're, you know, they're specially when the cost of rejecting them as hi. Yeah. This is one of the reasons that they get maintained. I mean, there's really no end to them. Excuse me the gas attack. In Syria a few years ago, which was The Economist a dog whistle for everyone to hate Assad

there. Now. I never felt like I was in college when that incubator story came out I didn't fall for it. How many men specially family men in uniform are just going to do that? They're Muslim babies. It didn't make any sense to me. They didn't serve their interest. There was no cui Bono of it. But the gas attack in Syria. I think I was the first person to write about that right after it happened because he was winning the war with time. This was before the Russian

intervention. He was winning the war handling. And so again, the question always comes up is cui Bono. What, what, what's in it for him, knowing full, well, or these these assassination attempt to Putin, allegedly does with his enemy. These people know full well that if they were to pull this stuff off, they would be condemned crucified. And and under attack immediately. That would give the justification. For all the policy that the West

has against these places. Bashar al-assad knew that if he actually were to use poison gas, which by the way, the rebels did. But I forget what year off, the top of my head. It was very crudely, made missile that had gas in. It allegedly had gas in it. He knew that the West would be on him. It would just maybe even an invasion. And would destroy him in the international Arena. He has every reason not to do that. And we talked about propaganda, took that all these things.

These are some of the marks, the incubator story at some time. I knew it was ridiculous. My father, who was a, who died 19 years ago today, who was a combat Marine in Korea. He said, I refuse to believe that Soldier. With families at home are going to just kill other. Muslims are babies for no reason. It was blatant. Propagate was crude in that sense. Very crude. Propaganda. Propaganda, couldn't be more subtle can be crude. So you really just never ends.

There really is. Especially now, you know what Johnson's law is this dovetails? Just exactly what we're talking about. I don't know if I'll be talked about it, the last time Johnson's law, which I named her

after myself, of course. That the more obscure the country or region, the more the system can lie about it because it's very few, people who know any better or alternatively, the more obscure the country, the more that journalists will make mistakes about it and not realize that they're making it, we're not even care. They are North Korea, is your classic example, no one's allowed there.

The Defector stories are awful, you know, no one's pouring molten lead in prison and down their throat and ridiculous stories people don't realize they're being paid. So again, these are also marks of of propaganda. Anyway, as far as this is concerned, you know, propaganda manipulation Machiavelli is all. It's all one in the same thing. Exactly what we're talking about here.

If you could try and think of one more lie, try going to the first world war try and think of one others that come to mind for me during the attack on the Waco, on the church. And Waco, Janet, Reno said, babies were being beaten. No, such thing was taking place during Libya the invasion in the, under Obama Wolf, Blitzer on CN. N said, Gaddafi is giving is true. Oops, Viagra to commit Mass rape.

The New York Times, said that Russia and Putin were paying to assassinate American troops and even see in Afghanistan. Yeah, ABC's showed footage footage. So this is proof so we know it happened of Assad or gosh who was it. If they had said that Assad was indiscriminately killing the Kurds, I believe it was it.

I don't think it was harder one. I'm pretty sure it had to have been At the time and they said here's the footage and it turns out it was the footage from a Kentucky gun range that pass that ABC had used instead. Now, think of first of all blatant lie that tugs at your heartstrings, you think you're seeing something that you're not actually seeing and imagine like the likelihood that someone saw those flames and said, I think ABC's lying those Flames look familiar.

Are who would have thought that it's just so unbelievable that they almost got away with that and that easily could have started a World War no-fly zone in Syria because of them, killing the troops. That's Russian airspace. And that's war with Russia regime change for the Putin Administration. So, this is how bad the lies are in this year, with social media, the internet, all these TV stations, so it'll just drive you crazy. Give me. One more historical.

I may preferably around the first world war, but anything will do, oh, well, what immediately came to mind? Even the beginning of this program was Isis?

again, I was the first one to rip apart, this ridiculous story that somehow out of nowhere, a gigantic army with a rational chain of command and tons of money and uniforms and standardized equipment, and a prison system, and a currency, not to mention tankers to ship Oil, Spring up overnight without anyone noticing They never attack Israel. They never attack American targets. They only attack enemies and the syrians have said this the

Iranians say this all the time. They murdered soleimani two years ago. It was at the almost. You know, Isis was the main beneficiary of that because he was formulating a plan to destroy them. The Taliban are perpetually at war with ISIS. And they all say, the same thing. This is this comes from and Russians. Due to, this is an American creation. This comes from American intelligent.

People don't realize that every penny that goes into a bank account in that part of the world, especially if there's any, you know, suspicions about them is is monitor. Do you have satellites monitoring this place every square inch of this place? All the time? Their camps are out in the open? They trained out in the open. There's no way this could have formed without anyone noticing.

It's absolutely absurd. Then as they're being supported by the West, the craziest, most vicious stories are circulating again, always, including babies rapes that they're engaged in. Even the name, the things that struck me was the name Isis. First of all, the s is like in snake. It's a typical me man in Hollywood. The S is used. Isis is, you know, kind of an

obscure occult idea. Not to mention in English, the pronunciation of a pagan Goddess of Egypt, which no muslim, whatever call themselves and it's a typical. There's an Isis. I can't remember. Think it's an Archer. One of the bad organization is called Isis. I forget which one. It's your Classic Hollywood, bad guy named, and it sounds evil, and this formulated and, and created a thing of massive.

Almost, a country was formed. Just at the time when Americans were growing, weary of the war in Afghanistan or in the Middle East, in general. And the most ridiculous story of a slave markets and everything. They came up with were designed to inflame the Americans. We need to go and fight. These people need to stay there and even commit more troops there to destroy them. Despite the fact that the u.s.

Was backing them. The proof is just overwhelming that these, this equipment, this money, this guidance. You can't create a militia overnight. That could fight the Syrian Army to a standstill. Syria is one of the most significant military. Powers of the of the region. So again, you know, Assad always says that the Isis doesn't need an Air Force because it has his room as he Israeli Air Force. So it's one of the most outrageous ones to what comes from.

This is number one that this is like a homegrown group. There are locals, of course, they come from all over. But, you know, this is a legitimate group that was formed to destroy everything. Number two, that the justification for American involvement over there is to destroy Isis or number three, America. It's actually engaging Isis. The Taliban has lost a large number of men fighting Isis. So when I see headlines talking about the collusion between those two power, he makes me

laugh. But again Johnson's will up being what it is. There's not much you can say,

we're talking about in this program, you know staying saying this is my world for 30 years. I came of age, you know, I came into this field. I was a musician and 1989 when ceausescu was shot by his own Army. That's when I changed. I was my freshman year in college. And that's that was the event, that, that was a catalyst for everything that I do now, and the Gulf War was the first big thing.

Desert Shield was the first big thing that occurred early in my college Years and even I knew the as a neophyte, how ridiculous the propaganda was. And as I said in the very beginning, it's easy to identify propaganda mythology special pleading because it's not in the interest of the people or powers to commit these crimes. It doesn't even make sense. It's so obviously designed to pull at your heartstrings.

As you said that, it's just, it's just isn't true and it's the same thing over and over again, World War one. I don't know if you've seen some of the propaganda pictures of the babies on bayonets. That drumming now and Belgium, Belgium throwing them up in the air. You know, this. You can you imagine the corpse Factory. Yeah. Yeah. Could you, can you imagine these men the family men who missed their wives and children with every bone in their body. Just killing baby for no reason.

And not only from, you know, for no reason. But committing these atrocities anywhere justifies the action of your enemies. The Taliban were the first group of people to condemn the 9/11 attacks. They had no connection to it. What's worse? Didn't have that kind of power and tried to hand over Bin Laden. Yeah to. And to any third party country that would accept it and they will, he ended up in Pakistan. He died long time ago.

That whole story is, is nonsensical, but the Taliban were, well, aware some an attack like that will justify American soldiers in the Middle East and Central, Asia for decades to come. And as you mentioned, the war in Afghanistan, has been the case long before 9/11 and other, I'm sorry to interrupt you. But before we before we were too far away from Isis currently, there's a foreign policy advisor for the Biden Administration. Jake Sullivan.

And he years ago. In 2012, wrote an email that was released under in Hillary State Department emails that said, Make sure Hillary knows H. AQ is on our side and Syria. Meaning Al-Qaeda is fighting alongside America against Assad in what was called operation Timber Sycamore. So they're jabhat al-nusra was the al-qaida-affiliated group that they were aligned with, of course, killing the Isis.

Enemy soleimani. They gave Al Qaeda all of Iraq after overthrowing Saddam, they sided with Al-Qaeda against Gaddafi. Daffy was one of the first people to call for bin Laden's, arrest and like 96. So, there was no good Daffy Bin Laden Alliance. So you strengthen Al Qaeda by taking out Gaddafi in. I think it was 2014. Yeah, you know, the siding with the rebels in Yemen against the Iranian backed regime.

There. That is another Al-Qaeda Alliance, but they've been supporting mujahideen Fighters since Afghanistan in 79 with Jimmy Carter. ER, and zbigniew Brzezinski, so I mean, this one is so bad. So evil. Like if you would have, told

someone on 9/11. Hey, we're going to be taking these guys, the side of these guys and in a war and in a few years, people would have just like fainted, they would not have been able to comprehend it. So, yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but that Isis point is so bad because it took so long and people have just moved on we forgot about it now. We're now we're back to expanding NATO. Every now and then, we'll throw China and there.

But yet Russia's the bad guy again for wanting to worry about the border with the Ukraine. Again, Johnson's wife certainly applies there. Well, I had some fun with the Isis propaganda. Once I believe it was USA Today that had a picture of what they claim to be a Mossad spy that they had captured digging his own grave somewhere. I'm looking at this picture. Those are their their Facebook because they able to comment on. I'm looking at this picture.

And first of all, I noticed he's in an orange jumpsuit like an American prison. Why is it Guerrilla group going to have standardized prison where that's what they're gonna spend their money on. That suggest, that's meant to Western audience. Who said, okay, he's a prisoner. They're not going to do anything like that. What would they spend money on a standardized person outfit? How can they, possibly create a prison system and administration overnight? Not to mention an army.

That was the first second thing is that Isis has never attacked any kind of Israeli infrastructure, but more importantly, The jumpsuit was perfectly clean. There wasn't a drop of sweat on his head. You know, I think and it was, it was also bad Photoshop. One of the worst things about Isis and Isis story has been the terrible. Photoshopping. There's a part of me that thinks that they do this kind of thing on purpose. I was attacked viciously.

For pointing all of this out and they like I don't take, don't quote me on that. USA Today was something like that though. Mainstream publication newspaper by pointing out these obvious things and the fact that no one else seemed to notice. You talk about, you know, ten thousand, you know, how on Facebook about 10,000 responses and I was the only one to did nothing here.

Makes any sense is no aspect of this that makes any sense, but a part of me wants to think that some of these bad photo shops are done on purpose. I think the ruling class, you know, I should put out these magazines. Perfect English glossy, you know, this massive, massive organization overnight, but they could do better. In terms of Photoshop, the Jordanian pilot that was burned

alive in his cage. The prisoners being walked on the side of the river with feed, you know by proportion Isis guys were like 7 feet tall really bad. The ruling class wants to see how far they can push the want to see how minimal their effort has to be to get people to be convinced. And the nicest thing has really been in my mind. It's been almost a crisis in National cognition that they can actually buy the store asking

any any even basic critical. The constant B Putin assassinations using these radioactive, you know, it's laughable. It's if people are going to know right away what happened and Putin's going to be put on front center as a bad guy. They don't have to do this. These are usually very minor figures. So it's usually these days, it's very crude. And I think the decline in American cognition is so bad that they could have bad Photoshop and not care.

And they're seeing how much they can get away with. But I know I went through so many of those responses on Facebook about that picture and no one was attacked, of course. And no. One else picked up on nothing about that picture makes anything. Including that notion of having an orange jumpsuit. I mean, how organized was this group that the IRA have standard prison jumpsuits for their BMW. That pows are all Overnight.

This group comes into existence but Johnson's law, me what it is, of course, very few people have the wherewithal to ask these kind of basic questions and it causes a great amount of suffering. I've learned to deal with it. You know, I just turned 50, I can, I'm, you know, this used to drive me crazy Rises. I just don't expect much from people. I don't expect much from the voter or the, the voting mentality, and, you know, they're absolutely has to be an heiress.

Courtesy of sorts, maybe I'll institutionalized. But an aristocracy of those who have the leisure time to deeply get into a topic so deeply get involved in a specific area. One of the worst things of being a specialist. As I am is that when another special starts talking about it, the errors are so bad their knowledge. So superficial. It's a miracle that there's not physical violence. So but that's this is this is

our lot, my friend. Let's get into some more tips on staying sane in the in the world today when you have I mean, explicit lies, Joe, Biden, gen, Saki, and Nancy. Pelosi on the same day saying that the three point. Five trillion dollar stimulus, bill is going to cost zero dollars. So so when you're faced with that, how do you stay sane in an insane world? Well, we say, stay sane. It's not as if that particular lie, you're going to cause people to go into connections.

What we really mean is that over time. These lies not just promoted by every single outlet, but also enforced by social sanction, the wear you down, and grind, you down grinding. Someone down is a technique. It's a form of abuse, where you just render someone helpless and they accept their their helplessness. They truly believe in might one of my favorite word's is a Greek. Abulia, abulia is not just, it's usually defined as lethargy, but it's not just lethargy by

itself. It's lethargy from people who don't believe there's anything left to fight for I don't have any purpose. Mmm. You need to be very careful now at our tips for surviving them, because over time, you will be warned suffering is going to happen. You will lose jobs. We will lose friends. You will lose family member. I've been through it all. Don't think that somehow you're going to be the exception, you have to be prepared for its get

out of the field. But tips as far as our personal life is concerned. We can take breaks from time to time. You don't have to be reading every article. We don't have to get into every subject. We need to be very careful about who we arguing. Very careful. My opinion is debate should always be in writing or on social media. You actually think out a response and type it out rather than the saying it like this.

When someone makes a good point to me that I don't like, I have to think about it, you know, I, you know, it takes a while to go look at sources. Everything is very difficult, when it's in verbal and verbal altercations, can be really nasty. The written was only somewhat. So, you know, people have to read, you don't have to listen to you in verbally, you could even cite sources. That's a big deal. Don't expect too much out of people realize that one in eight Americans is a narcissist.

Or has those qualities from the sociopath next door? I think it came from that. It's very common. That maybe their opinions aren't from some unbiased study of the subject of because it makes them sound intelligent. In all my experience in dealing with Layman concerning these issues. It really comes down to sounding smart. See how informed I am. See. I'm doing something. I'm up on this stuff. There's a lot of resentment because of my education and background.

They they want to take me down somehow. Keeping your cool is absolutely positively, essential the minute, you get angry and start yelling. You've lost. So and I've been through this, my fiancé is in the mental health field specializing in autism and schizophrenia, and yes, she has a lot of great insights into this. But mental illness is very prevalent. Cognitive dissonance is very prevalent. I've had situations where I discussed an issue was so much like the Isis not too long ago.

Obviously, you can argue with what I said about Isis, and then they agree. But a few weeks later. I hear him talking. You'll give you the official account to someone else. Yeah, you know, you can't, you can't be very trustworthy. You have to have a strong support system. You can't be isolated. Isolation is terrible. It's almost a form of torture. You have to have a support system. You have to plug into a community. One of the things that the censorship is doing is

destroying any kind of online. Hopefully you could find actual human interaction somewhere. That's extremely important. And that's something that I have. Thank God. I didn't have for a while because you will go and saying just by itself regardless of politics if you're isolated, but that's that's being alone. That's not being in solitude. So avoid alcohol. My God, please avoid alcohol. Alcohol makes everything worse does make anyone feel better? It is the most disastrous thing.

A lot of the young guys, they get drunk, and they do stupid things, and then when they wake up, they feel worse than they did before. Substance abuse even among our people isn't minor. Avoiding alcohol, avoiding illegal drugs. It's a big part of it. Maintaining your own personal physical health, not only on Mental Health. And please, this is what you do. If you're really into this, make sure you have other hobbies that are totally apolitical. And as I said, you can you can

pull back for a while. You don't have to read every damn thing. So understand, what propaganda it and expect this. And so, when you explain something to someone make certain that it's calm and measured and intelligent no personal comments. No personal insults. Try to agree with a few things that they say. So you sound, you sound more

agreeable than you are. You know that, okay, that's a good point, but kind of kind of comment, but that only goes so far, we will suffer will suffer mentally, and because of that will suffer physically. Because they're very closely connected. And as I said before, you will lose jobs, you lose friends. You lose everything, I did, thank God, I've rebuilt everything, but the fact that I rebuilt, it means that it is possible for any of us, you are going to suffer. But this is the fight.

This is the fight. This is, you know, true aristocracy is those who are fighting the regime right now? So, so that's, you know, we're fighting the Machiavellian regime, Machiavellian regime and, which now, essentially, his black rock. So, that's pretty much it. So, you know, yes, we will suffer, you have to prepare for, but there are other things you could do to keep yourself.

Hopefully unlevel ground. And is there something about just feeling like you're being part of something that is relatively meaningful or very meaningful. Of course you Very meaningful would be you insult the president and millions of people change their mind on TV, but at, you know our power level or, you know, to anyone, maybe listening, it's hard to you. Don't exactly get those road to Damascus moments, where everything changes for you.

It's a little more gradual. It's much more indirect. It's much more about planting seeds, isn't there? Something encouraging about choosing a worthy burden to put on yourself to give you? Something to fight against that is important. That should be rejected. And in that process the people you meet along the way you're going to have this sort of evolution of friendship.

So instead of me staying in the football realm and making friends and building relationships there in the economics philosophy and history realm, I'm making friends and building relationships there. So it's still beneficial. It's not like this huge sacrifice and if we lose our life is for nothing, is there Anything out of that word salad, you'd like to respond to. Oh, no, don't insult yourself. That's not word salad at all. Makes a lot of sense to me, but

it is really the summary. Of the tips that I just said, there has to be this interaction. I don't regret damn thing. I've lost some very good University jobs because of this and that's something I may never fully get over. But everything that you said it really is summary of how we're to approach. Mental health here that we are in the right. I'd never make reference to like the first amendment and the First Amendment right to say something.

No, I'm right. That's why I'm saying it because there's some abstraction that gives me permission. The fact that they're centering so brutally proves that they're very this is not exactly a secure regime. Double standard and January 6, versus the riots last year. Totally complete, double close, you know, and if someone can't see that, maybe you shouldn't be talking to them at all.

Maybe they're not capable and don't assume that everyone's capable of reason that everyone's capable of following a chain of arguments and proposition. So their conclusion. I found that not a whole lot of people can do that. Don't assume that everyone's capable of Love, don't assume that even in our own, our own side. You have people who were there for non political reasons that are there for personal reasons or and I always wondered, you know, I went out to editor the

bars review. I was outside front center of the Nationalist movement. I heard it. Everybody knew everybody and we get the crazy letters, usually handwritten about their teddy bears and whatever it was insanity. And I've always wondered, I said, are these people crazy and they join our side or are they on our side? And therefore they went crazy? I never, I can't, I can't answer that. But it is not for everybody. History is made by fanatical

determined cohesive minority. There is no exception to this whatsoever. The masses don't matter, one way or the other, contrary to what Marx would say, and our own personal morality and virtue has to come first. We have to be very, very, very careful about that. And, and we have to give an example. I think people are converted more, by example, then by ideologies. Because even people who I

Certainly have changed. I often mangled my words and my meanings making it more conducive to their own self-interest know our example can be a big part of this. So, you know, look the Soviet Union fell. In and of itself, there was no war that was no massive famine. It collapsed, it collapsed, almost overnight from 89 to 91. It collapsed almost this is never been done in history. Usually there's a war there's a severe economic shock, something like that. This just happened.

And all of those who were fighting the system for decades, we've indicated because everything they said, turns out to be true that could happen with any regime that we're fighting. For those people who will accept the idea that the January 6. With this horrible Riot and the riots in every city in America before were wonderful peaceful. Maybe they're just not capable of thinking.

Pick your battles, pick your friend, but if you don't have a support system, you're going to be in a lot of trouble and you may then turn to drugs to get over it. One of the things that I've done is I've tried to make sure that I'm reaping a benefit out of all of my interactions. So, as opposed to me just sort of going into this. I need to keep the good fight up. I'm going to try to convince this person.

Maybe they'll teach people and it'll create this Chain Reaction. A lot of people don't listen and you'll say well, why did I waste so much time on them? So what I try to do is learn from every one of my interactions. Whether it's the dumbest person, I know or If it's, you know, someone with multiple phds who I'm disagreeing with, from each person, you could see even if it's just not someone really into politics. How does the political messaging affect?

Someone like this who doesn't know much yet. They have the same opinions that the CIA, the Council on Foreign Relations, the New York Times and the University's Professor have, isn't that interesting that all these people have the same idea and if you peel back one layer, they're not really interested. And in what's going on or how they develop that opinion? So always try to harmonize the

interest that all right. I am going to learn from this conversation how a smart person believes a lie. What their response is how they rationalize the most ridiculous things. You could possibly say and what are they going to say? If I ask them a question about something instead of, putting it in a statement format? How do they respond? What is the feedback mechanism? What? Works. What doesn't work, what opens their mind?

What gets them to stop? To think these sorts of things allowed me to stop driving myself crazy, because I go. Okay. I'm going to talk to this person for maybe 20, 30 minutes. It won't be a waste at 30 minutes if I didn't convince them because I probably won't, but I will learn and I will have brought that horse to water. Maybe the horse, doesn't decide to drink. I will have brought them to the water of Truth or so. I think maybe I'm wrong about everything and they're bringing

me to the water. They're bringing me to the Fountain of Knowledge. But either way, harmonizing those long-term and short-term goals. And and me saying, how do I find the benefit in this for myself, for my family for the people? In my immediate group that has been a really big thing for me. Also, just having standards for people who I take criticism from for the same reason, you wouldn't take a blind man's opinion of a painting.

A lot of the It's of the world, the ignoratio as I call them, or if they guess, it's the world's biggest secret society. It's so secret. The people who are the members, don't even know that their members. That's how big it is. Billions of people that it's the equivalent of asking. A deaf person, who their favorite musician is their inability to distinguish with distinguish truth from falsehood or you don't have any sense of,

you know, in ethical compass. I just think that it's important to be able to disassociate, not disassociate to distinguish between valid opinions and invalid ones in the same way. I might say, you know what, I really disagree with pilots on how to fly planes. It's important that people just laugh at me and say, well, yeah, you're not a pilot. You haven't studied shut up. It's there shouldn't be a vote among the passengers on how the pilot should fly.

He's right. Everyone else is ignorant because maybe they have had taken the time to do so, or maybe they were misled, whatever. Also, the division of labor has been really big for me. So, to recognize. So when people say, yeah, I'm not really informed on, you know, politics or anything or banking, but maybe, I'll start watching the news. I say whatever you do. Do not watch the news. It's worse. It's worse than doing nothing because you think you're getting something when you're getting

lies? So I say, all right. So where do you work? And he'll sort of, you know, reluctantly says, Goodwill, which for those not in America that is an organization that takes used items and sells them that collects them and then sells them, distributes them around States and and whatnot. So it's seen as like the cheap place but it's getting nicer and as people get newer things they give their old stuff to Goodwill and Goodwill sells them at a

heavily discounted price. So telling that person that what they're doing is they're playing a role in the process of getting Products and services to people at the lowest levels of income that our grandparents and grandparents never would have had access to all these clothes and all these books, and all these CDs, to all the knowledge of all the books and Goodwill alone is is really big telling them that they still have value and that they have meaning that first of all, feels good for

you, but also it doesn't just suck people into. I'm either involved in the cathedral apparatus of the state or I'm Not really a good person. Anyone who builds a house for a family to live in my do more for the world than I've ever done with with this podcast. All right. Maybe you have to build a few houses. The point is, is that telling people that their value, that's another thing that helps build communities.

You don't feel so isolated and it's not like, I only find my value in Kamala Harris and the speech is that she gives. So those are some of the things that come to mind. Oh, also babysitting, I think is great. Just to deal with. I mean kids who are not going to ask me about politics or talk about anything to too, serious. Just to see them laugh at, you know, books or someone falling. It's so nice to just sit back and, and appreciate it.

Not to mention a bunch of us, atheists, got together, and went to church on Christmas. Eve, in Scottsdale, Arizona met the nicest. People there, develop more. Ships and most probably for so hours. Then I have in most online forums or any thing revolving in the in the political realm. Those are pretty much the main things that come to mind. Also sports. That playing football is also nice to just to get some energy

out. Any final thoughts on staying sane in an insane World. Well, how do you follow that? I, you know, I say. To everyone that I do two things very well. I'm a very good historian and I make very cute babies. Family is absolutely essential. But when that institution is falling apart, this is where isolation comes from. Finding the right woman and making children is essential today, not just in America, but especially in places like Eastern Europe where our

population is falling. The media has led to a situation where white males have such a chronic low self-esteem, even gets into the music and the art that's produced. Nirvana was almost based on, and this is why I suicide the overwhelming majority of suicides in America, are middle-aged white males. They're being replaced. They don't think they have value. I don't think they're anybody. They've lost their kids. They've lost their marriage. There's nothing left.

They're a burden on everybody. So family is essential babies thing. Would, I raised two boys? And I love the fact that they their innocence. I think their innocence is one of the reasons that people abused them. Child abuse comes from this terrible envy that they don't have to worry about the things that they do. Childhood Early Childhood is the Garden of Eden. The fall is puberty and puberty and the fall expulsion of Adam and Eve from the garden or very

soon. And the whole prior to that. The innocent is something wonderful and it changed my life completely. I was a very good father and he came very natural naturally. To me. It gives you a tremendous amount of confidence. You rely - the ultimate activism making healthy children. Raising is the ultimate form of activism. Michael would come to the demonstrations With Me Now who the TWP. I had a lot of pictures of that. He loved every minute of it. He was 14 15.

He was taken because he was my son. He was taken very seriously. Everyone loved them. He was very brave. You are strong, you know, it changed his line. So but you know, what? Sometimes I wonder you talk about the distinction between your political stuff in your private stuff. I find out that that tends to collapse. It is eventually going to come out.

You can't keep private stuff private, especially if you're doing what we do. So family is absolutely essential churches are essential but even that it's is getting worse and worse as time goes on self-interest arrogance Conformity fear seem to rule everything just like the Soviet Union. The capitalist regime is going to fall under its own weight, too. Are we going to do? Are you talk about the ignor

otic? I also when I was told my first speech to the freedom palooza people, I made the statement that the United States is the only country where you're going to have a really what the Western world where you could have a total economic collapse, and I've no one noticed. Because of how everything is spun. It's worse than you think. However, there are bits of good news. There are still reasons to be

happy. You shouldn't be dictated to by the fact that we're in this position and, and family, the church connections and close friends. These you, there's no way I could stress that anymore. Without them, you are going to be in some trouble. I think this is really where alcohol and drug addiction comes from. What is the important difference

between Catholicism and Orthodoxy? Oxy. Oh, Auntie that come created. Great. The idea that the bishop of Rome can decide where Grace goes. Is absolutely essential to Catholicism. It's the foundation of papal infallibility. In Orthodoxy, Grace, simply is the energies of God. The presence of God on Earth. Simply the simply is and Bishop can then point to it. The ascetic life is meant to make you able to receive it. Eden is here. Heaven is here.

And actually they haven't Eden is here, but we're too sinful to notice. We're too hung up on. Usually what it comes down to self-interest uncontrolled. Passion, sex, greed, media control, self importance for the opposite and we can't experience the ascetic life of the monastics in Orthodoxy are the dominant. Part 3 Bishops have to come from. But the Roman church almost defies the bureaucracy.

It defines the pope of Rome as having total control over other Bishops, complete control because he is the one who decides where Grace goals in Orthodoxy. There is no such concept, so that changes everything between the two between the two between the two sides. It wasn't always that way. They had a 800 years of common life. But gradually this, you know, this difference, the pope of Rome being the inheritor of the Roman Empire and of course the Roman Empire surviving in the

East that was the key different. And when Gregory the seventh, indistinct is pop a claim that he can overthrow a gift for economic control. He decides every political question and every religious question, and it's one of the central text in Catholicism. That changed. There was no chance of a reunions between the suicides. At that point. It was one of the and right after the system, right after 1054.

Establish establishing themselves as a total list bureaucracy, that is not the case in the East so that if they do in a very, very simple way, that's how I would describe it. Created Grace, this notion that the bishop of Rome has this, tremendous power is and everything that comes from. That is the main distinction. And if I want a history of the Orthodox Church, of course, reading the Bible is important.

What is a book that focuses on the history of the Orthodox Church that you'd recommend to people? They only have time for one, which one should they read? That's difficult. Well, you should pick up my stuff. My book on the well as the Orthodox idea in Russian literature is very important. But Timothy wear anything by Timothy where he's, I don't agree with them on a lot of things but Timothy where is an

excellent source. Another excellent source is Vladimir Moss. All this stuff is free online. He has full histories of the Orthodox Church in different countries. I don't agree with him on everything, but he's very intelligent worthwhile. So, but Timothy where again tends to be a bit of a modernist, a lot of your Moss is probably where I would. I would send people the Orthodox Christian information, center is a huge website. This is old as the web. There is almost nothing in the church.

It isn't on there. They have a whole history section. That's where I would go and it's very imposing. Very few people are actually going to bother to do this. But if I had to pick one, it would be one of the historical works of blood me Moss. There's a history, there were structures. I can't, I can't think of the exact title of the top my head. That's why I would send them. If you think of that title, send it to me. I'll put it in the description below. And then final question.

What is a book or website? You would recommend to someone if they wanted to learn how to critically think and decrease the likelihood. They are manipulated by Propaganda. Book, this is nice a or website. Yeah. Person to follow anything in that area. It comes from experience. It's very difficult to read your way into this. What happened to me? Is that the college and grad

school? I began to read forbidden authors you Michael Jones was a big one who just demolished The Establishment history and a whole bunch of topics to generate moderns was the first thing that I read of his. And when you start realizing that, oh my God. So much of what society believes is absurd and falls and damaging, it changes your life. You can't, you can think the same way again. You can function the same way

again. After that, you start taking all of these claims with a grain of salt, even if they aren't true. But that kind of criticism that the critical mentality, it comes from being a full-time worker in this field. If you don't have the background knowledge, if you don't have the tremendous reading that goes into any particular subject me let alone broad concept. You need to rely on others. And simply asking someone who you trust what is really going on. I get that I get these emails

all the time. What is going on here? But doing this comes from experience. Young men shouldn't presume. It's kind of crunchy. When young man. We don't really know that much start start, you know, acting like they're the the guardian of Aristotle but age and experience is what's going to allow you to identify. We talked about identifying propaganda. It takes a while to, you know, I can just get a whiff of it. There's certain sometimes even unspeakable ways that you can understand.

It's not necessarily something in writing, but there's something about the syntax that suggests falsehood. And this is why I'm so, you know, a logic cuts through all the extraneous detail and gets to the heart of the matter. That's what thinking is. That's extremely rare. The essence is what we're aiming at.

But most people are attached to the accident or the quality and qualities are easier to access your color and shape and size and emotion, but getting to the heart of the matter on something is rare. I think. Aristotle. And how many people can read posterior analytics by Aristotle but that is The Logical text. But I think over time reading critical books. You could begin to imitate the critical method can be taken in.

I mean, you know, I've made mistakes believe it or not, but it's something again, it comes from experience. There isn't a single book out there that can that can do that for you. Thanks to everyone for watching Keith Knight. Don't tread on anyone and the libertarian Institute. Dr. Johnson. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it man. Best questions. Excellent show.