Democracy gives power-hungry politicians far, worse incentives than the market gives greedy business. People above all voters, unlike consumers have no incentive to be rational spurring. Power-hungry politicians to preach and practice, and less demagoguery. Welcome to Keith's night. Don't try to on anyone in the libertarian Institute today. I'm joined by dr. Bryan Caplan. Author of how evil are politicians along with his new book.
Don't be a feminist Dr. Kaplan Where is the best place to purchase the book? The best and only place for these is Amazon. This is a series of eight books of my very best essays over the last 17 years and they are Amazon exclusives. Feminism is the moral position that women and men should have equal rights. Is that a fair definition? It is not a fair definition. This is a course, a language where you have to find out how
in fact people use words. Fortunately, as I point out in the piece, There's actual survey evidence on whether or not someone identifies the feminist and whether or not, they agree with that statement and guess what? It, turns out that well over 90% of non feminists, as well as feminists agree with that sentence, which means it is a crazy definition of feminism. It's like defining feminism as the theory. The sky is blue. Yes, feminists believe the sky is blue but guess what?
They're not the only ones everybody else believes it too. When it comes to the general claims that feminist make, I want to make a Number of arguments, you tell me if these are legitimate reasons to be a feminist, or there's something missing most violence between the genders involves men being the perpetrators and women. The victims indicating men view, women as property, not humans to be treated with respect and dignity. Alright first let's back up.
So we left us with a wrong definition of feminism. The one that I propose is this feminism is the view that Society treats women more fairly than or exclude. The truth Society treats, women less fairly than men or alternately that, it treats men more fairly than women and this is the lens through which I'm looking at.
Of course, it's got to be over all because if you just find that on a list of a thousand different traits, there is one that is disadvantageous to women in our society that hardly establishes the thesis that overall our society is less Fair Isle Now to turn to your specific question, you know, if that were in fact true, then I would say that, that is A small piece of evidence in favor of feminism but again it's one where we need to step back and say, well if it's true that
women are more likely to be victimized inter-gender violence. How about men in general, right? And what we see is that men are vastly more likely to be the victims of violent crime than women and porting remember whose vast majority of men are not violent criminals. So the real story is that we have a small number of violent criminals who do indeed tend to be male. Whoo. Do bad stuff to men and women, and they do a lot more bad stuff to fellow men.
And why is that, is that have to do with the testosterone levels, you think? Because the feminists will say that, it's a causal result of society telling men that they're entitled to do whatever they want, right? I have never heard Society tell any men that ever. So that seems like a. You need our conspiracy theory in my entire life. I've never once heard anyone explicitly state from in, any sort of Public Authority position men are entitled to do whatever they want.
Particular men are entitled do whatever they want to women in. This is just paranoid fantasy. This is not what society says mean. If there is something that society says, it is that it is especially heinous for men to commit violence against women. That's why if you have a story about a male actor, getting in a fight with another man, that does not destroy his career. Even if people say he started it still, it's like, well, you know, these things, these things
happen. But if there were a case of a male actor, hitting any woman, especially was caught on camera. Probably that would be the end of his career. In fact, as I say, the real empirical story is that not only our society. Been almost all known societies, treat violence against women as being especially Hall as being, especially awful. And the double standard is in favor, women not men. Yes, never hit a woman Women & Children. First, yes, that's what I hear.
But right. And again, if you'll just wait here, you like, if you want to get an idea about what our society teaches us, you can just take a look at how you write a story in such a way, as, to depict a person positively or negatively. If you have a story where a man does something bad to a woman, this is a clear sign from the author. This is a terrible human being. It's fine to hate him, he is a villain in the story on the
other. And if a man says something insensitive and a woman, slaps him which often happens in stories. This is not a key to say this woman is the devil rather. It is more like well, what an understandable reaction when a man makes such a jackass out of himself. Of course, you're going to go and slap him and it's kind of funny. I mean, just think of the the humorousness of violence varies very strongly by the gender combination of, who's doing it.
And who is receiving it? And all this fits with exactly the opposite of the story that we use. That you that feminists will say, Which is that we actually make men feel entitled to do stuff. It's the other way around if you just lick it, listen to what adults? Teachers parents say and the kinds of Corrections. They give from a young age, it is boys that are being told to stop doing things that they want to do and being basically being told to act more like girls.
So it's just not an accurate description of what is going on. Yes, female on male violence was the punchline twice in the last Modern Family episode. I watch Alex, the girl was beating the heck out of the guy because he plays a puzzle joke on her and I go, you know what? I'm sexist, cuz I guess I'm okay with this because I wouldn't be okay with it the other way around because it's just not that threatening.
Yeah, Next claim of the feminist, Googling, the word man, splaining yields three point two five million results. This is the explanation of something by a man, typically to a woman in a manner regarded as condescending or patronizing is a very big problem. Therefore it needs to be addressed because men, see women as sort of these dumb idiots who we kind of need to rule over, right? I assume there are far fewer, Google hits for women, splaining or whatever. The alternate term would be.
You know, I would say the obvious story is that there because there is a vocal, and energetic feminist movement. There is a lot of complaining about the way that men behave. And so you get a lot of uses of it. Whereas, There is almost no corresponding men's movement that would be pushing the opposite. So you can talk about in cells or the manosphere. It's just much less culturally influentials.
So, if you're going to take complaining as indicative of the incidence of the problem, then obviously, it looks like now. Men are least looking poorly here although it is one of the more minor complaints you can have about a human being that they explain things in a condescending manner. If you were just going list other character flaws that would be more severe. There'd be a lot more than any
case. If we were to really go and actually record incidences of inner gender conversations, where a condescending tone is used, it would be not at all. Surprising that turned out that women were using a condescending tone more often. And I think, even if this were pointed out, the reaction would be well. And deserve to be condescended to because they just say things
that are so asinine. And if this is one where I would say, we don't really have good data but the fact that people are so willing to fling, the accusation around I think is very little evidence that there is a gender imbalance in the severity of condescending expression towards one another. Yeah and it goes to show you how just blatantly ridiculous. This this whole thing is when I think of all the time that I felt was wasted in K through 12 L've and community college and
high school. It was like, 99.9% women that were doing the alleged teaching, but I never looked at that and said, oh, look at these womans planers that never would have occurred, to me to say. And then second of all, if I heard someone, say I go, yes, they all happen to be women, but there's women in my life who I really love and shut up. Don't ever say that in front of me because that's ridiculous. Your negatively generalizing people.
I really care if you're going to negatively, gentle a journalist by teachers not women. Vocation you voluntarily join and where there is actually a low level of performance. Next one, men, make more money than women. Therefore sexism is the result of this because it's so much more. It's not just a little more.
Right. So I am an economist and this is the kind of question that economists are especially trained to do. So when I was writing the book, I went to the main review articles on this and what they will say is if you just put in some fairly obvious, competing explanations alternatives to sexism such as men working more hours, more likely to work full-time. Men are more likely to be in stem type jobs then almost all
of the Gap goes away. I think that the main review articles Says, they still have seven or eight percent of the pay Gap unexplained. And this is what you're only using a few different alternative explanations to race against the pure sexist. And one there is a really good book called why men are in war, which goes over, I believe, 25 different reasons, why men or more.
This is actually many ways, it is better than what economies are doing because he just has a much longer list and evidence on each specific one, he doesn't use an able to actually get a data set where you have all the different complaints or all the different alternative explanations simultaneously, which is what would be ideal. But yes, there are many differences between the kinds of jobs that men and women do men are more likely to do the jobs that are painful.
Ugly, dirty demoralizing, for example, in medicine, when women are more likely to be specialized in what we call the death, the death parts of medicine, right? So you deal with oncology, you deal with horrible miserable conditions, and you can imagine how unpleasant it is to do that
job. Women on the other hand in medicine or more like to do pediatrics OBGYN other fields where you're more likely to be helping a person have a better life rather than just saving them from the worst possible outcomes or maybe just delaying the inevitable horror. So anyway, if you go through that book there's a lot of different stories that Focus especially good because it is a
self-help book which says women. If you want to make more money here, 25 things that men are doing to make more money. And if you want more money, just you do these things too and you'll be making a lot more money. Although once you find out what it is, that men are doing to make this extra money, you might decide you don't want to do it, and on the flip side, if you're a man, reading the book, you may read it. And say, yeah, I don't want the
money that badly, and yeah. So for example, another thing that men are more likely to do is to move to an undesirable location for a career to move to Alaska, South Dakota, that kind of thing. Of course, lots of people want to move to San Francisco or New York City or some hot location, but if you are want to go and Advance, you need to success settle for lower quality of life so that you can rise. The ladder. This is standard behavior for
men who want to succeed. Yeah, I mean, so just to back up and talk about a little bit more. The main thing to remember is there's a world of difference between unfairness and inequality world of difference can unfairness and inequality. I have a I have a total number of Zero sports Metals. It is not because I was treated unfairly is because I didn't try and if I did try my performance would be low. This is not a pleasant explanation. In, for why?
Someone is failing? Or at least, is not performing at the top level, but it must always be on the table as something. We're open to open to considering if people are going to be allowed to go and complain and expect people to act on it. It's one thing if people just say, look, I'm really frustrated. Okay? That's that's too bad, so sorry for you. But once people want to politicize it and say something out, wants to be done.
This is where you really do. Have to say, well wait, wait a second, we don't really know the reason that you're making less money as they retreated on. Early on. Now, what I also point out is that there's something fundamentally fishy about stories of equally qualified women earning vastly less than men, the reason being it does imply. The existence of an amazing get-rich-quick scheme for every business In America which consists in fire, all men, replace them all with women who
do exactly the same job. And since by assumption these women are equally qualified. You will then get Justice high quality work for a much lower price. Ice since laborers and major cost of doing business, it really is a brain-dead idiot proof way to make a pile of money. Unless of course, the premise is
wrong. And the reason why women are making less money than average for men is not unfairness, but rather that the productivity is lower or they are less committed to the job or they are working fewer hours. This all kinds of other stories to consider right? And you know, an important thing here is as soon as someone wants to bite your head off for raising these litter natives, this is where Know that they are just not being serious about the
issue. Whence if you want to discover the truth you don't intimidate people for who try to ask questions. You welcome questions even if you don't really want to hear the questions. Yeah. Anytime you're presenting of you that you hold dear, there's a some kind of resentment of
someone saying. Well actually but what a serious thinker does is they suppress their own emotions instead of expressing that others in a thinly veiled effort to get them to shut up. Have you done any research on the difference between Indian American incomes, Asian, American incomes and European American incomes? Well, I've gone over a lot of this data, but the data that I
looked at was older back. When there were hardly any South Asians in America, what I can say about South Asians is now Hindus will spit, it could be a particular Hindus or now, the highest-earning religion in America, and Indian Americans or I believe the highest-earning ethnicity, right. It used to be choose where the high string. But they have been dethroned by Hindus in terms of Asian
earnings. Yeah this is one where on average Asians out earn whites and this has been true I believe since the late 60s Right now, once again, the very fact that a group is out, earning another does not mean that they have not been treated unfairly. Maybe Asians would be making even more money if they were treated fairly.
What I would say is that at least some of the data are consistent with there, being a fairy, tiny amount of that, maybe 5%. Although, again, when it's that small, you always have to be open to the possibility. Maybe there's something that is a correct alternative explanation that I just haven't thought of yet. Or is it just a simply not the measured. The term, patriarchy meaning rule by men is summarized in point B of your list in this excellent book.
Don't be a feminist. It says men are over represented at the top levels of business government science and Beyond. I know there's a lot of overlap but when it comes to that claim how do you respond right? Well we can just start by looking the facts and say is it true that men have a large majority of the top positions in the search Fields. And yeah and basically every noun society that is true. But then the question is, why why?
All right? And secondly, there's the other question of what does it mean on the, what does it mean? This is where I keep telling people. Well, let's step back. Yes, men are overrepresented. The top, do you know what else men are over represented at the bottom? Men are much more likely to be homeless. Men are much more likely to be in prison and are much more likely to be. Let's see Joe to about to die of violence. That are much more likely to die in combat.
At right? So if you'll just go and say that we have a society where men rule when men are so over represented at both the top and the bottom is quite odd and sleep at. What do you mean by that? I mean, it could you could just say no, no by definition patriarchy means that men predominate at the top regardless of whether they predominated the bottom. But then well, it seems like a kind of arbitrary definition that just defines a way, a pile of evidence.
Right now, in any case, then there is the other big point about Jessica's Mentor over Senator, does it mean that they are unfairly overrepresented. Maybe they simply excelled through better performance and this is one where we can definitely look at the areas like science. And to say, okay, well here are all the main scientific accomplishments of men, what are the corresponding scientific
accomplishments of women? There are some but it's really hard to find anything remotely close to parody. There's this is a small example but it is kind of fun. There's a really great cartoon history of comic books and Anyway, thing is called the comic book history of comic books. There's a first edition where they just went through the regular history. And then after it was published, they said, oh wait, we basically mentioned zero women in this entire book.
So then they did a second edition which I also have because they colorized it. And I like the colors where they put in a bunch of pages about women in comics, were they just did a really deep dive and tried to find something that women had done. All right, it's not true that women have done nothing in comics, but nevertheless the fact that you could write a whole book, giving a very thorough. Three. And then at the end they all wait. What about women does? Give us an indication.
Look, they just didn't do as much now and the weather you can of course say well yeah but why is that? Why is that right? It's an interesting question. There are course, again, a bunch of explanations which would not require In fairness. The simplest one is maybe they were less interested in comic books. Is it possible? Women are less interested in comic books, the men. Yeah, well, if you're not interested in something, you're probably not going to sell it at our, you know. All right.
That's something that's worth considering. And of course, the same goes for Natural Sciences a possible, women are just less interested in Natural Science. We have a pile of evidence that they are less interested in it. Most obviously, just looking at the majors that people choose to do. You can always, then come back and say, well, if physics were properly welcoming to women than they would be equally represented.
Something like well, so you say is there any evidence of this or is this just something that you always claim whenever you would backed into a corner or where you've painted yourself into a corner, with exaggerated hyperbolic paranoid claims? I'm going to go primarily with the latter, although maybe we can find something much of what I object to is. Just the thinly, veiled intimidation when someone ask questions. Because when someone says well
why do you think it is? I think not really asking you why you think it is. They are trying to make you scared to talk so that ever so that everyone has to pretend that they've got it all figured out and they know the answer is unfairness when there's obviously plenty of other explanations on the table. One thing that I did not mention in the essay, don't be a feminist. A letter to my daughter is that we do have interesting data on what happened to Jews versus women.
And there was a great emancipation in both law and social norms. So we can see is that if foot back when when Jews were in the ghetto and Europe, then they had very, very low share of your of world achievement in science, literature, philosophy and so on. Then with you go and take a look at measures of achievement that you'll see in dictionaries of achievement. You'll see that very soon after the ghettos were ended, Jewish achievement skyrocketed from just a few Percent of
achievements like 25%. Women on the other hand, when barriers came down, have not risen to anything remotely like that. So, I think this does show free in the case of Jews, it looks like it really was a system that was suppressing, natural performance for women. The data are just much less in favor of that. And I am only a messenger. This is not my fault a common misconception about the this book and especially to a say is that this is expressing some kind of anger and hostility
towards women. Nothing could be further from the truth, the subtitles Is a letter to my daughter. If you read it, it is me talking to her, trying to explain to her, what is really going on in the world. Do I want my daughter to have all the good things in life? Of course, do I have any resentment of her? Not on your life, but I'm not one of the parents who feels like my kids somehow ruin things for me.
Far from it, my kids are my salvation during code to be a to be an adult childless adult during covid. I just would have been out of my mind, right? At least, I had four kids to keep me company during The Sleek times. Like so like when I present this evidence to her it is not in any kind of negative Spirit. It is just saying, look, let's go and try to face the facts. Let's realize that just because something is true to, his sickly does not mean that it is, the definition, your life.
The same time do not be taken in by demagogues, who want to go and make you blame whatever goes wrong in your life on men because it's quite likely that man in fact, are not the reason for your problem. Certainly I couldn't imagine the opposite. Meaning that you cared about your kids, imagine telling your son, men are 50% of the population, yet 95% of those incarcerated because you're discriminated against little boy. Good luck in the world. Have a good day.
That would be a. That would be like child abuse. The closest thing I could imagine, right? Although, you know, even there I mean you know that's that's an interesting one because in the case of discrimination on pay There we do have this very strong economic argument saying that if there really were substantial pay discrimination by gender, the Via get-rich-quick scheme.
That any business could Avail itself of and the case of the criminal justice system on the other hand, it's not like if it treats went fairly, you can just say, forget it. I'm going to go and move to Norway. I'd say Lee. It is one, we should at least be more open to the possibility that there is gender discrimination. The evidence here is not what it should be, but Warren Farrell, who is an author.
I take very seriously. There's at least present, some Marshall evidence that women are more likely to get lighter sentences for some crimes, especially things. Like, if you go and kill your partner and then claim it, then claim abuse and basically The Burning Bed defense, women are a lot more likely to get away with that the men that could, of course reflect the true. The reality that women are more likely be living in fear for their lives.
We also does go over some interesting evidence on spousal violence or enter partner, violence recess. It's a lot more complicated than most people think in terms of most measures, it's very similar by gender. Even in terms of severity, he says that women were more likely to use a weapon or more likely to get a man to commit their
violence for them. So actually even on the severity measures it is not so clear that in partner abuse that's men are or actually worse overall than women but this is where the evidence I would say is quite a bit weaker, so it's still a good idea is to keep an open mind on it but it was eye-opening to me to realize it's not actually And shut. Have you seen think of a non bizarre way to say this? Have you seen a baby's reaction to being circumcised?
Woohoo, I never have I managed to get all of my sons to not be circumcised. It was done to me but of course, I have no memory of it. The claim that they don't feel pain at that age to seem so absurd, right? Yes. So I have been anti-circumcision for a long time in terms Of watch the actual most practical way to deal with it. I think it's a bad idea to actually take kids away from their parents for it because circumcision does not predict doing a bunch of other horrible
things here kids. But yeah, like it is one where the way that people accept it, so casually seems absurd to me. So, yeah, I think yeah. So actually, there is an essay in, don't be afraid it is. And don't be a feminist. Yeah. Where I talk about Michael chabon who has an essay on the circumcision of his kids need to goes over all the arguments and says, Yeah. None of the arguments in favor circumcision. Ready? Good probably hurts a lot but haha. Well that's just how we are.
We're we are flaky creatures, we are none. Can say when a parent will do and so he circumcised him anyway, right? And when I read that, so as I say in the essay, it's almost never do. I just want to throw a book across a room and that was one where I was like, what the hell? This is like, you're in a society where they clip off one, knuckle of a baby's finger and the, with a, on the base of a Flimsy arguments and then you say, yeah, well, there's no good reason to do it but clip, haha,
very funny isn't, it isn't life? So ironic and Whimsical. So yeah, well, it was something that I always thought. Wow, that's a parent sort of like, how they choose the name, they choose, which closed the kids where they choose the kids haircut. You can choose to work to not to and then I saw like four or five videos of it and then I asked a doctor I said hold on. Am I only seeing these videos because they're the worst examples and they go?
No that's generally how it's done and it's too risky to like put a kid on. Under and give him an anesthetic. So I mean they would never do that. So yeah, that's how it is and I go I think that was like the one thing that took me maybe 12 to 24 hours, to totally change my mind on everything else. I've gone Kicking and Screaming. But that's like, oh, I need to absolutely be against this even if it's uncomfortable for my
friends. Having kids, I'm going to bring it up and they can hate me, but I got so many Kaplan books to read that I could lose a few friends. Yeah, right. After my, First two sons were born. The doctor came in and said okay well when do we schedule the circumcision and I was strongly tempted, just to say, are there any other healthy body parts you
think we ought to amputate? But I just said, we're not doing it and he's like, oh, and then you did look at my name and then he's like, well, mmm Jewish last name. What? You're going to go and break this chain letter of amputation. That's gone on for thousands of years. Like yeah, I'm Breaking the Chain Letter. No. From Moses and it stops with Kaplan. Wow, just unbelievable. You really threw a wrench in that chain letter, F men view women as sex objects.
This does not allow women to go about their lives and live with dignity because they're constantly being treated as a means to an end, not as an n in am of themself. How do you respond right to start? There's hyperbole there like an enormous amount of hyperbole. Yes. Didn't like unless you're a supermodel and even there, it's unclear like constantly being being being approached. That's just a gross
exaggeration. Like I've talked to many women and ends with the amount of times it actually happens is not nearly that high like Bots. There's two ways of go of going about this. So you want to point out and like so like there's a lot of Truth in it. This is the way that a lot of men especially young men see women but guess what? It is a two-way street.
It is also True. That a lot of women seem any success objects that they just look at a guy and say, well, here's this guy done well in the world and it done as well as a career, is he rich? In that case? I like that guy. Like. So in both cases, you may say he Woods is an example of human beings being superficial. It's not the most reason. It is not the most admirable trait. It's one that we do see across both genders right now.
Furthermore, in terms of the general complaining mean this is a thought experiment that I Does really give us a lot of insight. Just imagine that you could go and turn your dial a fiscal track missed anywhere. You want from zero to ten wherever you put it. You were gonna have to deal with all the good and all the bad of that attractiveness. Where would most men put it where most women put it? I think very few people would put it below average.
Because yes being being physically attractive gives you a lot of good things in life. It does have some mild downsides but overall it is a good thing and for someone to go and really complain about that does strike me as a strange set of priorities and just a strange perspective likes the only for Alma. Yeah like you might say, I'm really smart. This is terrible because now people as people want to go and ask me for help on their homework, Well, expose they will but guess what?
You get to be smart. So, maybe it is not the most reasonable. Most most reasonable or serious complaint to be sharing for attention. Yeah, I knew a very rich girl, in school who lied and said she was poor. Because at her previous School, everyone knew she was rich. And she didn't know who her friends were like, people were constantly using her and I go, okay, I get that. That's a small problem and the large scale of things. But it's actually a really
difficult psychological issue. The are the people, you surround yourself? They say, they like you, but you've only been fooled a hundred times before. So yeah, young person would have that attitude. I can see someone you like in their 30s, wearing about that kind of thing. But you just just like how long could even keep that a secret? Unless you don't have any friends. So if you have any friends, they're going to come to your house. They'll see how you live in the motel people.
So it's a strange story but of course, the world is full of strange things. So big. In response to the claim that women do a disproportionate amount of housework and care for the kids. And don't get compensated, you had mentioned that you went to Europe. I believe with one of your kids and you saw a lot of women and children who were refugees from Ukraine. But you didn't see any men if you had to guess, where do you think they were? Yeah. Well they're stuck in Ukraine.
Most of them are not fighting. It's not like the only like Ukraine has an army of 15 million guys or anything like that. Rather, it's just a law saying that if you are between 16 and 60, you are a males, are not allowed to leave Ukraine. Yes. So this is a gross violation. And then, furthermore, this is one where they don't even have the excuse of, we need them soldiers. Like a guy who's 59 is going to be a soldier, right? That's pretty ridiculous.
I mean it's moving but would be more reasonable to keep the 13 year old guys in the country. Because if a war goes on three years then you can draft them then. But yeah, like really what's going on is like well men, there were Role is just to be human Shields, right? And even if you're not a soldier still we don't want the world thinking that we're cowards and that we have adult men leaving the country. Yeah. So there is that what was the use of illegal?
What was the, what was the Prior Park? So your contrasting, the like the like the treatment of Ukraine. With what was the other thing? You were just said before just refresh my memory? Well, the claim was that women do a disproportionate amount. Yeah, yeah. So that's one. Actually that is just not that that is all you.
It is true. They do a disproportionate share of housework, but if you go and some paid labor, and unpaid labor, then the average for the two genders, according to the best time diary work in sociology, is a very equal in the real story is that there are some women who do put in a lot more hours than the average man and other women who put in a lot less hours than the average man. So basically, the women who do put in a lot more hours than the average man are working moms
working moms a full-time job. So they with you going some, they're paid labor pool, son, Labor is really high, on the other hand, if you look at stay-at-home moms there, the total amount of Labor they're putting in is actually way lower than a full-time job on average, right?
And this is even though as again, Warren Farrell points out, there is a bias in this research because a lot of things that men do that, don't get properly counted as housework, for example, men are much more likely to go and drive when there are when they are when they are with their partner. And we don't generally consider this to be a form of Labor and yet driving a cab is So it's unclear, why being the being the person that drives the family car when the families together
would be considered as such. So that in that's probably a lot of time actually. So if we did a better, better distinction between different activities than quite as it seems likely to actually wind up coming out of mints favors long,
as you some, both kinds of work. How is it that the military conscription aspect that yes applies in Ukraine but it's applied in America since like the Civil War I can from what I could find, it's applied in Britain and all over the world and today you still have to register. But I mean imagine if like just blacks had to register for forced agricultural work in case of a food shortage.
I mean, I think we might hear about that every now and then yeah, register just in case how That such forced labor. The most immoral thing has been so clearly overlooked by like, almost everyone. Yeah, you notice the women and children. First ethos it is men's job to quietly loyally, bravely die as slaves, if their country asks for it and it's not woman's job to do that. Woman's job is to be protected, right?
And this kind of attitude, is there such that if a guy were to pointed out, not only women, men would also make fun of him, right? Oh yeah. Or chicken, you're too scared. Oh, you don't want to die? Hell yeah, I don't want to die. Yeah, I've had to explain to a few friends that they're like. So you wouldn't defend the country and I go defend the Biden regime who calls me sexist racist and xenophobic every chance they get. No, I would not be spending a penny to defend the Biden
regime. If Putin wanted to install some I'm sorry. Why do men commit suicide? So much more often. Yeah, that's a good question. So usually people distinguishing attempts and successful suicides attempts, women seem to do better on actual numbers though man or the embedding a better. Yeah, women women have more suicides ruse, or suicide attempts. Men have more actual suicides. The proximate cause is men
choose the methods that work. Women choose the methods that are unreliable, the best explanation I think is that when women do it is, more of a cry for help and they want to go and get more. They don't kill you, they may very well, have a serious problem, but it's one where it is a cry for help, where you're doing it, not to end your problem, but to get people to get people, to take you seriously men on the other hand, when they commit suicide, it's because they've actually decided.
I want to be dead right now as For What the deeper reasons for that for that are like, it's really hard to say. You like so you could save our society teaches men that they're Expendable. Because that's possible Right. Another one could be Men actually feel like if there's no one left in their lives, that cares about them that their lives are not worth living. And to say that's false, I don't know. Maybe it's true that if you don't have anyone who cares about your life isn't worth
living. If you're young enough you might say, well then find some people. If you're at a point where that's not like that happen and then you can see that you could have a different attitude. And I think that overall our views on suicide are deeply confused, where you see the 03 like the real issue that is that a lot of people kill themselves or people where the with they clearly actually think things
are hopeless, but it's not. And there's a lot of things they can do to turn things around and they, especially if you're young, the idea that you're going to feel this way forever. So strong on the other end, is a lot of people who are especially old who are in horrible constant Agony and for them. I think it's totally reasonable to say suicide is an In that, we have that you should think about. And yes, there is so much stigma against just being honest about
that. It's like, oh well you think that just because someone is constant Agony their life isn't worth living. Yeah for me I would say my life wasn't worth living the only reason it would be you see if there's a prospect of the agony ending in life turning back to something like normal and once you know the prognosis is not
that. Yeah. When it comes to having an empirical test or some Metric to determining, if someone is or isn't sexist, I wanted to ask you this because I was talking to someone and she is 100% positive that I'm a sexist. Just like the sun is shining, she's positive and I go. I'm actually a hundred percent.
Sure. You are because you explicitly judge people by their sex and not by you know, the content of their character is there an empirical test or some Metric, we can actually use to verify Who is and who is not sexist, racist homophobic bigot, excetera. Well it's a good question and of course it needs to start with. What do you mean by it? Normally of course people say well I just mean it in the normal way, right?
Because if you declare that you're accurate by virtue of just using words and words ways, it is not very satisfying Victory. If you say, hey, there's over 3,000 planets in our solar system, it's like will know know. So yeah. Well by Planet, I mean human beings it's like oh well in that case, there's over 3,000 human beings in our solar system selenite. Yes, right now. So when people make claims, the especially ones that are controversial normally the Ideas.
You want to start with words as they are conventionally used and then say something surprising while using the words in the normal way. So, I would say is that the way that people normally use these words is for a sexist. This is someone who treat me like who judges someone based upon their gender regardless Ali Ali Ali. What's the best was faced with putting it? Sometimes they'll someone who all else equal favors, one
gender over the other. Something like that, racism, someone who All else equal favors One race over another right? So that would be the reasonable standard. That is roughly what people mean? So yeah, if you say that someone is sexist, because they think that women aren't just good basketball players as man just like, well, it's just a fact. If there were to be actually a game, the an inter-gender game and then immediately, they like a male and male versus female
game. They all play by the rules and the women and the men win for someone to say that was sexism. Like no, it wasn't. It was the men were better at basketball. Ball. Then the women, right? So those would not be reasonable standards again, it would have to be something like what economists are doing when they try to estimate degree of gender discrimination and pay where they say, let's go and compare men and women who matched in terms of what they do.
And then see whether there is a still a pay Gap left after that. Same thing for racism or any other of those it really does. It really like it in the background of ordinary language, there is a notion of its Got to be because of that, not, coincidentally because of something that correlates with that.