Episode 106: Jon Sands

Jon Sands is a poet based in Brooklyn, NY. I first became acquainted with Jon as one of the co-hosts of the podcast The Poetry Gods, one of my all-time favorites, and the poems in his latest collection, It’s Not Magic, are both exuberant and profound. In our conversation we talked about being braver on the page, about balancing self-love and accountability, and about writing toward growth. Then in the second segment we talked about how having kids changes how you see other people, and we talked about the work of Aracelis Girmay and how she uses personification in her poems.

(Conversation recorded February 18, 2020.)

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• Jon Sands
• Jon Sands - It’s Not Magic
• The Poetry Gods
• Aziza Barnes
• José Olivarez
• Keep the Channel Open - Episode 33: José Olivarez
• Jon Sands - The New Clean
• Rico Frederick
• Barely South Review - “Living Brave, Writing Braver: an Interview with Jon Sands”
• Jon Sands - “Moons Over My Hammy”
• Geoff Kagan Trenchard
• Carlos Andrés Gómez
• Aracelis Girmay
• Aracelis Girmay - Kingdom Animalia
• Aracelis Girmay - The Black Maria
• Planner vs. Pantser
• Frank Ocean - Channel Orange
• Frank Ocean - Blonde

• Editing/Mixing: Callie Wright
• Music: Podington Bear
• Transcription: Shea Aguinaldo