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Co O Day radio program. It is May, so there's that, and it also because it's the Wednesday, that is the first Wednesday in May, it's uh, it's our talk to Lieutenant Governor Day. For those of you keeping, you know, playing the home game. We do the first and third Wednesdays of the month. So that's good because I hear there's some stuff going on. Mark's got thoughts on and we should get into, you know, like what's happening over at UNC. And I gotta tell you, I

had a little springing a step yesterday. So I was putting prep together and watching the uh, the things unfold there on the campus. I was it started a little low. Then it was a little like okay, all right, I like what's going on here? And then again and then I kind of separated from it on a positive note. And I think you will too if I go over the series of events. But we'll also get Marks thoughts.

And I saw that he also waited in on Charlotte and did not use it as an opportunity to call for an assault weapons ban, as some did, including the President of the United States. They were literally serving a warrant on a dude who wasn't supposed to have guns because he had guns, and then he kept having guns, and then he had guns a whole bunch of times in other places, and then for whatever reason, dirt bags on bond. What are we going to do. I don't know. Once you get

a guy who's willing to shoot up an entire police department. And by the way, I don't know if you know this, some folks in law enforcement would tell you they could. Probably if you put some dudes in a room who are on the you know, frequent frequent flyers list, they probably tell you who might be willing to do that. There's a there's a reason that certain people have warn't served by a deputy who's on his way home and knows your mom, and it's like, hey, I got you've been served over

this and a squad of dudes. Okay, But if you don't, if you don't do the other stuff around it, and it has to always get to squad of dudes. And by the way, when I say dudes here, I I mean anyone who's door kicking, anyone who anyone in that law enforcement capacity, because I don't want to do it, God bless you. But once you once you're to the you know, the squad of dudes. You have to ask yourself, what about the other ninety three times or whatever?

This dude, this guy who in Charlotte, has almost as many. I want to be one hundred percent accurate here, although I don't even know why. I'm burning brain cells trying to lock down information on on on this guy. All right, so thirty nine, he has thirty nine criminal charges. So I was gonna say he has more criminal charges than I am years old, but that is not accurate. This is why we strive for accuracy.

He has slightly less charges than I am number of years old, but only by a little margin, just under, just under, and all over the state, all over this great state of our person Alemance Union just you know, did the did the tour like he was running for office, just except in this case it was the criminal Well sometimes the running for office is the criminal tour tour. But you understand what I'm saying. So then I then I got to watch all this stuff yesterday, and it's like, oh,

yeah, it's just that it's that noise I made. There's no there's not words to describe. It's just trying to put all this together. So in fact, it urns two. But there are some silver linings. There are some things we need to talk about. Uh well, in fact, that UNC Chapel Hill is one of those examples. I like what. I

like that, you know what I like. I like that we're on the right side of this in my humble opinion, because I got to tell you every moment of every day that I have been broadcast from North Caroline from the moment I drove from Minneapolis in the week after Christmas and I drove on ice until I hit southern Indiana. So do the math and then boom in there. From that moment to today, anytime something's going sideways on the UNC Chapel Hill campus, I assume it goes the way of the moonbed. It was

just a given. Oh they're protests, all right, Well they're gonna do it, and Chapel Hill will join in and then boom there you go. What you want to do the wiggle worm and have die ins because Trump looked at something or something you know, who knows during that whole era. You want to have all the hoboes be able to sleep there, sure protests for three days and accomplish nothing. You don't like a statue, even though there is literally a crafted law on how you go about addressing that. I just

ignore it and then try to buy your way out of it. And then when your supporters of you know, realize that you tried to buy your way out of it, you then double down on just ignoring it and doing whatever you want. So for what happened yesterday to happen, and I'll tell you what happened. Oh it felt good, It felt great. Actually, it felt like for a moment like sanity is within view. Maybe, but there's a long way to go. So can't wait to have that conversation with Mark

coming up. All right, I'll give you the deats as the kids say, do they still say that? I don't know. I suppose that's your ultimate cell phone if the kids don't still say it, and then you say it. But I'm gonna go with there. Say it on what transpired at Chapel Hill yesterday? Uh, yes, some Canada stuff because you know,

why the hell not? And there's one story here on just silk so oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, here we go the we're gonna go international two to El Salvador cuz you know, some videos, some videos The best part of the video is not words that are spoken, it's faces that people make. This might be the winner of a video where pay attention to the faces that people are making. It's just delicious.

I'll explain next on the CaCO Day radio program phone number eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seventy four to get that out there as we start banging through the different elements of the show, and let's start local. So yesterday Crazy Day over on UNC campus, we had literally during the show, they were they were roused in folks. They started doing it right when we went on the area yesterday. That was the that was the cutoff. And uh,

while a bunch of folks did leave, some didn't. And then the ones that didn't, in addition to getting in there and getting themselves removed potentially charged, arrested. You know, there's a couple of incidents here, there and everywhere, they decided they decided a couple things. One I think they looked at what happened in Colombia or at Columbia and thought, you know, what what we need to do is seize the administrative building because they did kind

of power over in that direction. And also that flag gots to do something about that flag. So they did. They took down the American flag and put up the Palestinian flag, because you know, that's what you do on a US college campus in America, it's a state school, that's what you do. And that has been something that has been done and repeated at many many campuses throughout you know, all of this garbage we're seen, except with

one little twist. Those are And it's funny too because people are like, those aren't students, and I'm like, those look more like students than the student's protesting, and then me getting a press release going, yeah, most of the people that we we moved out of there, they had no affiliation with the school. So uh right, I'm gonna look at that twenty year old due with a backpack cover in uh uh UNC blue and go, yeah, he probably goes there. I'm making an assumption. Come along with me.

What they were chanting and what they were cheering is instead of placating them, instead of you know, I guess moving, you know, tricking him to go to another place and then pulling all the flags down and tucking tail and hiding in your building. Uh. The interim Chancellor Lee Roberts along with Yes, people are like, oh, yeah he came. He brought dozens of cops with him, Yeah he did. We were lunatics. People have

been people have been injured. Do I do I think that if if if the chancellor, the interim chancellor, had went down there to do what he did, and by the way, I'll tell you what he did in the moment, and he'd went there alone, that what do you psychopaths who were doing who are trying so hard to you know, con steal your identity and may have no connection to the campus, wouldn't try to do something to this

guy? Hell yeah? And I want to remind you that interim Chancellor Lee Roberts is a guy who they're already mad at in leftist circles for the high crime of appearing in photographs with Republicans. Right, they don't need, they

don't need any ideological influence on our college campuses. And uh, I think that objection is going to go to uh cranked up to an eleven to this guy getting the full time position because he went down and he put the American flag back up, and I saw people going, do you such a little thing to do? And to crush the goodwill that you may have or be able to develop with the protesters. All right, if it's such not a big deal, then why put the Palestinian flag up there? Because it's it's

it's it's a it's it's a symbol. It's a symbol of who's running things right now. That's what that is. Make no mistake. I don't care whether it's a you know, wedding match with a with a rival at work arrival for the affections of somebody, a standoff with your kid, Right, you want to exemplify who is in charge. We do this in war time, we do this with personal things. We do this. We do this almost as as as an innate characteristic, Right, you get the the whole

alpha thing. And I'm not don't worry, We're not going We're not going there. But he just went down. He's like, look, I'm the dude in charge right now, and no, we're not. We're not going to do this non negotiating, no little uh Columbia. They literally were holding Janitor's hostage yesterday. Maybe kind of I'll let you be the judge when we get to that, but I think that that is a fair statement and I think that, Uh, the chancellor here or the interim chancellor I keep and

I say that because I kind of feel like he shouldn't be interim. I feel like you passed the test. Our chancellor said no, Uh we're not. That's not happening. We're gonna go down and uh we're gonna undo this in sanite. That's anathetical to who we are, what this university stands for. Lover have gone for two hundred twenty nine years, know how to express their views without shouting, without with got flags fan here as long as I'm chancellor, Oh shrill voices? You know what I want? Do they do?

Somebody help me here. I don't know how it works at UNC. I'm assuming they do the big like oil paintings of all the chancellors, right, I mean most universities do that. So there's gonna be a hallway where they have like here's the check. And in fact I know that they do do something there because I remember they were trying to get him to take some portraits down when they were renaming buildings years ago. I want whoever is commissioned

one instill this dude in as full time chancellor. Two whoever's commission to do the oil painting. Just paint him into that Norman Rockwell meme photo of the dude at the meeting. What ross, you're a big fan of that painting with the dude at the eating speaking his mind in front of everybody. But pick this guy right into it. That needs to be his chancellor oil painting there on the hales of UNC. I think it would be great CaCO Day

radio programs. So yeah, crazy Day on campus campus is but here locally UNC. The flag there at UNC comes down a Palestinian flag placed up. There are some students, by the way, who were there to catch the American flag when it came down, as they didn't want it desecrated, so good on them. But eventually it took the interim chancellor to roll out there, yes, flanked by police, and raise that thing back up. All

the while everyone's screeching, everyone's screaming at him. It's hard to hear all of the allegations because it all turns into one high pitched scanner, you know, like in scanners. When that dude's at the panel and his head's about to explode. That's how I feel listening when they're all screaming at the same time, and he just calmly and collectly went out there and did it,

because that's establishing. That's your dog urinating on your neighbor's fence posts, so the other dog knows what's up. Sorry, it's funny because people get all mad when you sit there and you and you like, you try to get down to the fundamental of what's going on, and you use anything that sounds like alpha or superior or tactical or militarily, and then they're like, oh, it's all horrible, and it's like, you guys have literally utilized a

snaps or a list of best practices for being as big a pain in the ass as you can. Right. That's why you have the umbrellas so that you can open them and spin them to preclude people from being able to see your film. That's why you all have the same tent and supplies so that

they are clearly centrally being purchased and put out there. It's why yesterday when students were literally hopping a little barricade so they could run across grass so they did not have to walk around the entirety of the campus to get from one building to the other. Twenty idiots would wearing their head scarfs and their hamas little thing on there, would then run and chase them down. You know what it looked like. It looked like people trying to cross the Berlin wall

man. And they do this thing where they run over and they physically all surround the individual, but they put their hands up as though that's supposed to show they're not doing anything, but it becomes clear that with their feet they're kicking the dude. So yeah, yeah, I needed a little bit of sunshine and I got that watching UNC have a little bit of sanity in this thing. I mean, it's is anybody going to class? What's going on? What are we doing? I can't wait to talk to Mark about it.

By the way, Mark did have some thoughts on it. We'll get him, we'll get him live. Here's what he said. Yes, Lieutenant Governor Robinson here, guys, I don't know how many of you all may have seen this, but there was a pretty disturbing incident today. To add to the disturbing incidents we have seen all across the country, all across the state. With some of these protests at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, uh, student protesters actually took down the American flag and raised the

Palistinian flag. The good news is this law enforcement officials, along with the chancellor Interim Chancellor Lee Roberts, went out took down that Palestinian flag and replaced the American flag back where it's supposed to be. They sent a strong message that that's not going to be tolerated on that campus. And I hope that that type of strong message continues, and I'd love to see that continue all across the state. So guys, appreciate you over you and seeing your efforts

to keep peace of security on that campus. Continue to ramp that up. And then people were mad at him on social media and they're going, oh, it's a nationalist, and I'm like, wait a second. The other folks are running around replacing flags and renaming buildings. I mean, what a way to get people not on your side, right, even if you're just trying to watch this thing from a distance, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and be like I'm just gonna observe this and take jesse. But then scrolling

social media yesterday seeing the flag thing, I got so annoyed. Let you talk about triggered. I was like, oh, these russ not a big deal, right, No, I'm like, what you need to do now, I'll go because they put that the Palestinian flag up there. What you need to do is you need to go and pepper spray them, tasee them, expel them, and then when they go home, you knock on their door and they open the door and they're recovering from it, and then you

tase them. You pepper spray and magh no in that order. Yeah, oh wow, hit them with it. Oh what do you think would be worse to be pepper spray than taste? Or taste and then pepper screw? I think what you do is you also conduct a double blind study, which is a pun based on the pepper spray usage, and uh some you tasee first and then by the way, this right now, there's some leftists who's going to put this on social media, So kudos to you and your clicks.

Sir, stop it, stop it. Do you see down in Florida they were pulling out the old pepper spray or Texas they were pulling out the old pepper spray, or excuse me, it was tear gas in South Well, I screwed up. I want to. I want to try to statement it should be it should be tase, tear gas, pepper spray, expel tase, tear gas, tear gas, pepper spray. I forgot the tase.

I feel bad well now because look, if there was just two multi two variables, right, we were dealing with tase last right, Well, hold on, I'm just saying, if we're going to conduct this study, because we might as well get paid for this, uh this stuff, because we're sitting around thinking it up, and this is a university setting. Now there's three variables, We're gonna need a lot more subjects. So I think we will have to expand the ross three point plan uh study to uh all

the campuses where there's nonsense is going on? Are you okay with that? Do you think we can handle that? We're gonna need a lot more grant money. I think as long as the nonsense keeps up, we should keep up the study. Yet. Yeah, so personal opinion unders tas pepper spray. What about the proper order and expel? And that's four very what's the

proper order? Because you bring up a good point on expel, most people would think you expel last, right, But what if you expel first, and they're trying to emotionally deal with that, and then they come unhinged and they start throwing out you want to you want to give them a chance first, So they put up this stupid Palestine flag. And then what you do is you you tase and you like, stop resisting. But then they keep

moving and you're like, do they keep tear guys? And then they're freaking out somewhere I told you to stop resisting, and then you tepper spray, and then at that point you're like, fine, you're gone, You're expelled. Yeah, no, no, that would be the natural progression. But for the purpose of the study, some of them are going to have to get expelled first and then we go through the others in a variety of right. I think we can both agree it's a very complicated situation. Uh huh,

I think. And I also I think we're going to need the amount of diligence that we're going to is required, and money will only be on par with when police agency does a strip club undercover investigation, you know what I'm saying, where they pour they pour the totality of their resources into it and time and money. So yeah, all joking wing quick aside, No, like yesterdy. The flag thing just piss me off. Yes, well, and it was meant to and then and then to downplay it, but

then be freaked out on the upside of it. It's it is that is marking posts. That's that's you know, it's dog's pan on stuff. That's what you saw there yesterday. You saw a chancellor who are an interim chancellor? Dude, they better give this guy the job. Does he want the job? I don't know that I'd want to be chancellor of of of a

big public university. Can you imagine the the grievances among the staff. Let's say, you know these big public universities, they've been doing a great job of training these little communists, a little Marxist and now they finally get to play a grille and they you have the leaders of the schools going how could this have happened? While the faculty create human chains around the little communists and Marxist Well, and that where they learned it from. That's the other side

of this. Is it just the protesters that are that are students and or are not affiliated with the university, And do we open the study perhaps the faculty. I don't know that lady in at Emory University who quote hit him in the head, what instinctively or something order the words she used impulsively hit an officer lightly, she said, in the head while he was attempting to conduct an arrest of somebody else. And then she herself got a frog by

you know, purp walked out of there, pancakes for a moment. I mean, I don't know they answered all this stuff, but I'm willing to explore it just in the same way though that it bothered you and it bothered me. I what I saw the video of the chancellor out there and some of the students and and and putting the flag back up. That equally,

I equally had an emotional response. Yeah, but it was good vibes, but it was there was it was also and this is what I was trying to explain at the opening of the show, how many years have we been doing this ross where if if there's a bunch of student protest kicking off, UNC just turns into the same dumpster fire as everybody else. Right, they do the you know, they do the die ins. They have all the rest of the stuff. The nonsense ensues. Then eventually it calms down and

not this time. No. You saw it up at a Northwestern yesterday. You see, they decided they went a different route than the chancellor. You would see where they're They're like, well now we're gonna give you know, Palestinian students of scholarships. Yes, like they just completely caved. So it was good to see them not cave. And it was good to see people come together and be like, enough of this crap. It's refreshing, man. And I'm just so that's for something that's described as not a big deal.

You know it is. You know why it is, and you also know why it's not working out That way kind of is too. So I gotta think Duke's trembling, man. Duke's a different animal, being a private university and stuff. But you know, a lot there were students from Duke. They were up there. In fact, one of the I don't know if it was Ril or the newspaper, I saw that they wrote a piece about, you know, what's bringing the divide together? The you know,

I'm like, oh my gosh, what what what? Oh? They're able to see past the different shades of blue because they agree on this issue, and I'm like, so, wait, what you're telling me that a bunch of duke agitators are getting bussed up there so they can and you're trying to spin this as a positive. I okay, So yeah, that that was

the thing that existed. So we'll continue our tour. I mean, you have to head up to New York because the craziness that ensued, as we told you literally yesterday while we were on the air, the protesters had taken hammers, smashed the windows out to gain access to the administrative building and taken

it and police literally had to and there's there's video. Although I did somebody put a brilliant troll post out I saw this morning and I was inspired where police are having to literally because they've barricaded everything around the bottom, they're having to like swat team entry on upper floors to get in there. Oh yeah, the whole thing is wildly out of hand. And if you are a college, you're a provost, college president, chancellor, and interim chancellor.

If you're not looking at that going we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna nip this thing in the bud, then yeah, you can go the way of North the north Western I guess, or you can go the way UNC and several others have and we'll visit those several others coming up on the KCO Day radio program. It is Wednesday, and it is crazy out there, and North Carolina doing their part, except they're doing their part along with states

like Texas and Florida, which we will visit here in a moment. But our travels first, take us. Take us to New York City, New York City, to quote the pace Peconte commercial and the I guess student leaders there who decided, hey, yesterday morning, very early, let's get some hammers and let's seize the administrative building. The problem was, well, there's lots of problems, which you're inherently aware of, but the ones that are

really getting the pub are there's people in the building. And among those people are janitors who clean the buildings overnight, who, by the way, even when you all are acting on your best behavior, probably don't have They don't have a long fuse for your nonsense, right, And I as evidence of this, in fact, let me play a little audio and I'll explain my evidence. As evidence of this, there is one janitor who looks I don't know. He looks like about a fifty year old black dude doing the overnight

janitor shift. Do you think he gives two flips about a ninety thousand dollars a year little COMMI wanna be rich kid cause playing while he's trying to just do his stuff and go home. No, he has he has absolutely no oh patience for you. And the evidence was there is literally a video of that dude tussling with one of these little string being idiots in his head his

little uh Palestinian headscarf thing. I know it's called a whatever. I'm not not no, because anyone who, by the way, probably thinks utilizes that and and holds it in any religious regard. I would assume you have to be offended by the use of the students, the students using it, if you're a normal person, I guess if you're all on the terrorist train, then so be it. But like that's just that's just like the most minor

thing here. But the dude who's the overnight janitor at a ninety thousand dollars a year tuition school for you know, troubled rich kids there who all resent where they came from and and just want to burn it all down, but not all of it. I kind of wanna appear to he doesn't have energy

for you. He has energy enough to fight you if you're up in there, literally trying to prevent them from leaving, which was the allegation that sounds a little hostage like between bringing your kids there to attempt to prevent arrest, I e. Children children as shields to hostage taking. How on the nose are we gonna get? And I'm only I'm asking that slightly sarcastically, but also with this little part of me that's like, they're gonna hurt somebody.

They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna hurt somebody. They're gonna hurt somebody bad. I don't know they're gonna cut somebody's head off. But I saw them chasing around some guys just trying to get from one point point A to point BE on campus. He's not even talking to him, and they run him down in this pack like a pack of dogs, with their arms up so you can't see what's going on in there. And the guy emerges, he's obviously had the crap kicked out of him, and there is a video yesterday coming

out. I believe that UCLA where they just beat the crap out of a Jewish girl, five of them around him, just just pummeling the girl. Well, I mean, you know that is and that is that would be solidarity with who you're protesting for, right if you're sitting there going you know, they made a lot of good points on October seventh. If you saw any of the video from that from that rave and by now, I don't know if you if you're on Twitter, I don't know how you could have

avoided it. It's stuff so on the nose man and and listen, and I think the only reason that they talked to the Fox News reporter is because he's a black dude. What do you think, you, roster, I thought that thought they had in La. Yeah, they thought this dude was going to be an ally. He's a he's a Fox News reporter, and so he's he's asking basic questions. And listen how quickly this thing devolves.

But also listen to the lack of any brain cells rubbing together on the part of the Interviewee, do you feel like it was right to hold three of the janitor workers hostage within side of the building. I think that's a really false narrative. That's what they the janitors are saying that they weren't allowed to leave. I think that that's a really false narrative. By the way,

the janitors were not allowed to leave. If I locked Ross in his studio and then I got, you know, the bosses on the phone, I'm like, Ross, that's you're in your studio now, that would be illegal. He would have a lot of toys to play with, but that would be illegal. That is literally the definition. You don't have to Maybe this woman thinks kidnappings only if you slide by in a van and like pull somebody off the street. That's not necessarily how it works. Look it up.

Let's continue, and if the janitors are saying that, you're saying that that's not true. I think that it's a really false narrative that the students took anyone hostage. How do you feel about some of the Jewish students saying that they don't feel safe here on campus. I think that this is also a really false narrative that's being promoted. Do you think October seventh and the attack that happened is a false nat Do you believe that some of the women were

raped. Kyley just came back. So this is what happened. Can you get out of my face please? So this is what you see at the protest. Once you get into the nitty gritty of what happened on October the seventh, the rape of women, what's happening there. They deny what happened, as you know that it is actually factual now that the janitorial workers were blocked inside of the building. And anytime you bring that up the Jewish cause the Jewish people, the kids that feel unsafe on campus, they do not

the reality of the guys. Yeah, yeah, that is that would be a kidnapping charge. Do you know how many people get charged with kidnapping or false imprisonment charges during domestic disputes for not allowing somebody to leave. That's where you see a lot of that stuff, right, or they take somebody's phone. You want, if you get into a fight with your spouse and you and you and you interfere with their ability to call police, that's a heavy

charge you catch. So, yeah, you trap a bunch of janitors in there. And then meanwhile, I'm gonna play this audio again and then we're gonna give you her bio. Uh this that woman was, I don't know. She thought she was talking to an ally and quickly realized she wasn't. She's not even as delusional as this check right here, be obligated to provide food to people who've taken over a building. Well, for first of all, we're saying that they're obligated to provide food to students who pay for a

meal plan here. But you mentioned the things that requested that food and water be brought in unless I's to allow it to be brought in. I mean, well, I guess it's ultimately a question of what kind of community and obligation Columbia feels it has to its students. Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get severely ill, even if they disagree with you.

If the answer is no, then you should allow basic I mean, it's crazy to say because we're on an ivy leage campus, but this is like basic humanitarian aid we're asking for, like could people please to have a glass of water? But they did put themselves in that very deliberately, in that situation and in that position, so it seems like you're sort of saying we want to be revolutionaries. We want to take up this building. Now, would you please bring us food and water? Nobody's asking them to bring

anything everything. We're we're asking them to not violently stop us from bringing in basic humanitarian aid. They're staffing the delivery of the mood. We are looking for a commitment from them that they will not stop it by having it. Well, I don't, I'm not. I don't know to what extent it has been attempted, But we're looking for a commitment. And I want to point something out here too. You would think that that when you're listening to

that that the reporters are nothing but like Fox News reporters. That's not that's a stand up of standard national, mainstream and New York based reporters. Right. You've got ABC World News tonight. There, you've got the NPR people are there, right, and like collectively you can only hear about two or three of them. They're not buying any of this garbage. Now let's talk about miss Humanitarian Aid girl, shall we. What do you think she's studying?

What do you think in between organizing kidnappings? What do you think that she's there to enrich herself with. And if you're going to go to the standard, the standard is this somebody? How dare they call them janitors? They're custodians like everyone's. All I know is that dude, the one custodian or janitor's got a sweet right hook. So and no time for their nonsense. Anyway, you would go to the tired old underwater underwater basket weaving or

you know, lesbian underwater basket weave. I'm trying to remember that that's really the one that people use all the time. I've used that before, underwater basket weaving, and it's just meant to show you the sheer uselessness of many many college and collegiate endeavors. And I got to tell you, I'm switching up so that young lady right there is in fact doing her dissertation. And if she's doing a dissertation, that means she not in the early stages.

She's she's going to get some letters next to her name, and her field of study is I'm going to read from her own bio? Should I read the whole thing? Ross or just what her focus? That was a trick question. He's already on it. All right, Here we go My dissertation is on fantasies of limitless energy in the Transatlantic Romantic Imagination from seventeen sixty to eighteen sixty. My goal is to write a prehistory of metabolic rift, Marx's

term for the disruption of energy circuits caused by industrialization under capitalism. I am particularly interested in theories of the imagination and poetry as interpreted through a Marxist lens, in order to update and propose an alternative to his historicist, ideologically ideological critique of the Romantic imagination. Prior to joining Columbia, I worked as a political strategist for leftists and progressive causes, and remain active in the higher education

labor movement. This chick's getting her doctorate in poetry through a Marxist lens. Excuse me, imagination and poetry through a Marxist lens. That's my new catch all. So what does that even mean? Like you take like a classic poem or story and then you put it through the lens of being really hungry. You know what? You know, here's what Ross doesn't do. You know what I minor did poetry Marxist lens? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah, so uh yeah, I mean, that is one way. It's about

on current. Let me give you an example. Let me do something on your level, with your small thinking and your right. I'm not a college educated man, so all right, yeah ready, sure. In fact, give me my bongos got the bar the bong goes in here? See if they still haven't used these, well, there's a lot of dust on here. Where's our canador? Custodia always being held hostage? All right? Old McDonald had a farm, had h that's it. He had, he had it and then the government took it. So do you get it now?

Yeah, Viva the revolution or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think it was. Her mother too, is a higher up in the state department, of course she is, yes, yes, And do you so you think the custodian who just wants to go home at six am or whenever he gets done cleaning up after these trolls, do you think he's got any time for her and her friends? I think even even if he's of like a secret Matt Damon Goodwill hunting type janitor at Columbia,

even then he's like, I don't have time for this crap. Yeah, I was rooting for him. Oh, I was rooting for him. One more before we go, Hickory, Dickory, Doc, you're guilty of wrong thing. Now you split rocks and your family and their family and five generations. Boom, there you go. I'm a little rusty, it's been a while, but I think you get the gist of this. So where do you land with that degree? That's my question? Are you somewhere begging people?

No, you land somewhere. You don't land anywhere, and then you beg people to pay your student loans? Well, of course yes, yes, yes, obviously, but I mean yeah, even factoring in that the begging for student loans is going to happen like because the problem is that is a person so gussied up on some pieces of paper in her hand and the idea that she's smarter than everybody, just enough to be dangerous and literally participate in kidnapping people, you know, And as you pointed out with a parent

in the State Department, do you understand how ironic that is that people not involved in something might be held as political prisoners? Do you understand that this is literally something in the State Department game plans around for embassy staff. Have you heard of the Iranian Revolution. Have you seen the movie Argo. That's a pretty good movie. You should watch that. I know it's Hollywood, give it a watch. So the irony runneth over. But yeah, I

just want to give you a little peek into that insanity. All right, some of you have some thoughts. Oh all right, we've got a few people calling in. Let's do this. We'll take a break, get some calls. Yes, we will visit other campuses and many many stories to get into. And the bourbon Gate thing, I guess the media is not going to let that go, so we'll have to address it coming up. Hang

on back in a few seven thirty five. Thanks for hanging out. So yes, little Marxist poetry doctorate again, I don't know what you I don't know what you do with that other than what she's doing. This is it, I mean, this is I told you the story. We're gonna go

to calls here just momentarily. I told you the first year we did that radio row thing in DC that you've heard me broadcast from for we didn't do it last year, but and then but I think what four or five times, the first one they ever did I was at and they were able to organize a gaggle of like pop up protesters. There's just professional protesters who go and it's and and they have very strict rules. They won't talk to you. They had a big sign at the front of the Phoenix Park Hotel,

which is a hotel just a couple of blocks from the Capitol. It's where we do the broadcast from because right next to it is where all the TV stations are and whatnot. We do a roof top over there. And they had a big sign that says racist enter here. And they were standing out front and they don't communicate with you, and and they're just like they're just like an insta protest. And then you get the camera shots. Hey,

look at these brave souls protests and these evil talk radio guys. And then they leave and then they show up somewhere else, hold another signs man. That's if that's where you land with a Marxist poetry degree, would be my guess. Okay, all right, let's get to the phones. Jamal, what's up, hey, Kasey, how you're doing this morning? Hate? Stay off out there everything, you know what, Casey, this is a coming off a little insurrection. You know when people when Republicans, when we

protested in January sixth oh, we were insurrectionist evil. Everybody's bad tea party back in twenty ten. Everybody's bad, everybody evil. But the Democrats have been getting away with their violent protests and their protest stuff for far too long without counter protests. And you know what, case I thank god Mark Robinson came on and spoke. I hope when Mark Robinson get in office, he signed an executive order and pull all their funday all college campus is funday full

of them all. I hope he does that for Casey that's legal. But you know, okay, hey, if Joe Bidica, you know what it's time for. You know me, Ksey, you know I'm a kick for attack person. You've gotten on me, and I'm gonna tell everybody Casey you've gotten on me about being a kicks attacked person. We've gone back and forth.

But if Joe body can pull stuff just saying I don't yeah, no, no, no no, and I yeah, I just I don't know if that works out, but anyway, go ahead, go ahead like champions, yes, yeah, yes, And he should have took and burnt the Palestinian flag like I did. Because I burnt the Palestinian flag dance seeing Old Dixie, I sure did. But Chasey, it's skin to the point now

to where for Republicans, we need to stop allowing these protests. I know, every time we have counter protested something, we we have always made out to look like bad got it. But a lot of these little, these little hippies, they keep going off the nineteen sixers where they see the civil rights protests, but they don't understand that were counter protesters, and those kind of protesters weren't always showing up to play nice, like nineteen eighty three when

they had a Death to the Klan march in Greensboro, which was it was a fight. Hello No, I said, yep, yeah, that is That is Carolina. I'm just gonna say this, if people are new to North Carolina and they're just hearing that there, there's a whole, big, big story there, and I would encourage you to look it up. It's

rather interesting. So and the Klan showed up the counter protest he has to go and had the right the count of protest, and well the Black Panthers and the communists pulled out knives and tried to stab people in the klan pulled out a gun and the klan won that fight. So the klan wopen a high fort. But this is why happened. Sometimes we have to show up like we used to do with a Tea Party movement. Everybody started paying Republicans

and Conservatives protests as racist, homophobic and everything. And wr L was one of the people who did it. For the people in Raley who showed up for the Tea Party rallies. I remember that. So you know what, Casey, we're gonna have to show up in counter protests and people like Mark Robinson who's running for governor and how webs and people like this unc chancellor.

He needs to be crazy. He needs to get the job and they need more chancellors like him that if they do stuff like this, they exp like, first you pepper spram, Do you tase them? Do you pepper spraym again? No? No, you forgot a step Ross. Do you know what step he forgot? You forgot two steps? Yep, there you go to your gas. Come on, Jamal, Oh you know it's a very

simple fourst step process. So look, here's you know what. But in all seriousness, and thank you very much for the call of this morning, Jamal in all seriousness by the Interim Chancellor going out and doing that flag. Do you know how many people, including some of you listening to the Voice right now because you follow us on Twitter, so I see your tweets, saw what many people saw early with the Palace the American flag and ripped down

Palestinian flag. Who are ready to load up pick up trucks and head over there? That would I feel like that probably would uh that what might have gone in a different direction? Just my thinking. And I know people are like, oh, because they're a bunch of violent animals. No, you're gonna have a bunch of people that arguably are equally as passionate and and you

literally have people that are trained to tactically incite folks. Right, remember their early days of you know in Portland before they literally murdered that dude and then that got memory hold. Remember the Antifa and the Proud Boys just whacking at each other. Well, usually it was a Proud Boys punching the Antifa dudes, and then the Antifa dudes to do things from a distance or put a

bike lock in a sock like that. One professor. Yeah, yeah, so if you're if you're an interim chancellor and you're sitting there scaring, staring at that, or a college president, you don't want that on your campus. So arguably, more than just showing them who's in charge, it may have staved off something a lot worse. It's a possibility, but it wasn't just UNC where they were having none of that. Let's head to Texas.

Shall we look up? Look up over your eyes? Oh my god, that's a that's a brave student there who's got the OC sprayl up in his eyeballs and his genius comrades are pouring water in it, which you can do. But I learned in my time trying to interview some of these anarchists at the RNC that one year that a lot of them carry milk of magnesia and or dairy products specifically for this, but for the pepper spray, and as you know, you eat dairy products when you eat spicy foods. And uh,

they just had the water so uh way undertrained. Meanwhile, the University of South Florida went a little like this, the tear gas. Oh my god, this isn't the sane away. Yeah, where are we going now? Huh? Do you see how fast that works? Oh my goodness. There's like a little moment where you're like, do they do you think they smelled it? They smelled the tear gas. That encampment got cleared in a hot second. University of Texas, Austin. Back to this, here we

go, here's police. Yeah, we're done. Would you beat somebody up or vandalizing stuff? And we were throwing frozen water bottle a cops, which is a crowd, which is a favorite, by the way. Uh And in Raleigh they that was That was one of the tactics during the mostly peaceful protests. Yeah. Have you talked to any of the law enforcement officers who had to go down and deal with that. Frozen water bottles are very popular

because again, it's all about skirting the rules. I'm not camping, but I have a layout chair because I have a disability, and you can't challenge me. That's a tactic at Yale. This is just water. I can have water. It doesn't say it can't be in the frozen state. Oh it's like a rock and I'm gonna use it to throw at you. This is what you're dealing with. Man. All right, let's get raised Stagic in here he gets to follow all that insanity. Sorry about that, mister

Stagic. What's going on, sir? How you doing? Okay? You know where? You know where? They're not pulling this crap Clemson. There you go. No, then I was up there this week and I said the exact same thing to myself. Yeah, but in all seriousness, I I've heard from a lot of our listeners who have kids they go to UNC from One listener's got a kid who's at the University of Texas actually, and they're like, you know, you're already worried as a parent, right,

what's my that's my kid up to? But like that extra added layer of they might get assaulted by their own classmates and or people from off campus who've come here to make a political point. Now you got to deal with that. People don't need that stress. Man. No, I agree. What about you know there's a lot of kids now in college that never got a high school graduation. What about yes, seniors now they might not get a college graduate. It happened to usc I was reading an article they wrote about

this one girl. She she ain't seen a graduation, uh in a decade so and she won't yeah, yeah, all right, man, Yeah, So what's going on? Good tear gas and weather. You need to for that, you need to like gus. You don't want to well warm, yeah, warm weather continues. Not much rain in the forecast now until maybe the weekend, but it's a pattern now that's starting to set up and have

a look and feel and sound of late spring early summer. Now that we've gotten into the first day of the new month, high pressure sits off the west, are off the east coast, and storms are firing in the central front of the plane. Yesterday, not as much severe weather as we've had in days past, but four inch diameter hail in parts of I think it was Iowa, and a couple of isolated tornadoes unfortunately, And our pattern to be sunny and warm, mid eighties, maybe some upper eighties by tomorrow.

Little fog and spots each morning, but most of that now is going away, and by Friday still sunshine in the mid upper eighties. And over the weekend we'll start to get our scattered shower thunderstorm thing going mainly during the afternoon hours, but I think it's in rounds and it's not all day rain any day. I got to start brushing up on the springtime and summertime scattered storm

language and try to get to the timing as best we can. But it does look like Saturday and Sunday will be toward the afternoon hours, and that keeps captures down a bit close to about eighty degrees. You know, you know, the worst feeling in radio ray is when you're doing uh cross talk with you or my business guy, and you think you're having an innocuous conversation and then every single one of your lines lights up, and now I have to figure out what I said right exactly? What did I say? Ross?

What did I say? Do we know what I said that's or is it just it just a happy coincidence? Oh no, Oh, we'll find out, all right. I'll update you if it's anything crazy, man, Maybe maybe Clemson's on fire right now and I just missed it. So we'll have a good one, dude. Yeah. Never. I mean, it's good you want all your lines to light up, but I just want to make sure it wasn't something I said. All right, Well, we'll figure

it out together. Next hag on prisis averted. I thought I said something dumb, and everyone's calling to correct, No, just everyone wanted people with thoughts. So that's that's good. That's why we do this. We'll get two thoughts here in a moment. Uh, let's say, just got a message from one of my law enforcement guy. What do you say, Oh yeah, I don't forget the bottles of urine. Yeah yeah, not just frozen water bottles, bottles of urine. I was I admittedly I was not

up on how popular that was. Going back to that RNC, the one that you're McCain was nominated. Right before the RNC kicked off, like the day before, they busted an anarchist group who had like a U haul shocker and in it was poop and pee bombs that would have required the entire collective, I think, just to eat taco bell all that week to get ready.

And that was only one of their stashes. Because what they were doing, because it was a little warm in Saint Paul, they would have the delegations from the different states bust in and on the very first day, the Connecticut I believe it was the Etiquid delegation and they have the windows open and these trolls caught them a little ways away at it where they had to stop and threw a bunch of those into the bus, dousing the the entire delegation.

So yeah, no, I'm familiar with those, and I learned that they also they'll they'll have that bottle and then when they're getting ready to throw it at police, they'll put they'll cut it so that there's holes in it. But then they'll have like a cloth around it or a paper towel so they can hold it in their hand where it's still in there, and then when they launch it, then it's just yeah, So that was the point

I was trying to make. All right, let me wait, did somebody think, wait a second, Ross, somebody thought that the bio re read for that girl was fake? And they just they just emailed to apologize because they looked it up. You know why, Because again I couldn't ask Ross with coming up with that. That's that's not a slide on you, brother, that's just too insane. Marxist imagination is you're getting a doctorate in imagination,

which if you're a three year old, sounds awesome. You you love imagination, but only through a Marxist lens, I mean, good god, and then poetry in there, Come on, man, No, I understand. That's why I encourage people to check these things. You never know. To the phones, Chris, what's up, Hey, good morning, Casey, Thanks for taking my call. First, i'd like to say thank you to those four officers for their service. And uh, I don't think they're

going to be getting twenty two million dollars for dying. But anyways, I was just wanted to ask your opinion on what if you thought that these people that are coming from these other countries illegally or being paroled from countries and other prisons and brought here, that's why they can't be vetted, if they're part

of some kind of larger protest army that we aren't aware of yet. Here's what I because I saw you holding there and I actually I thought about it, and I feel like the majority of people who have come to this country, even doing so through this illegal methodology, right, I think there's a higher percentage of them who want to be here than the students doing this,

do you know what I mean? Right? Like, they yeah, they actually want to be here because they're you know, they're coming from war torn Honduras or Guatemala or whatever it is, and they like they actually want to be here now, are there some folks absolutely sure, sure you're going to have those, But no, I think if you were to sample and thanks for the call. The protesters and I don't know the migrants they dropped off on Martha's Vineyard, I think the affinity for America would be higher with the

Martha's Vineyard migrants. As odd as that sounds, Andy, go right ahead, Hello, Andy, Oh hey, sorry, sorry pub about a minute. Yeah go ahead, sir, yeah, perfect. Well. I went to I've got daughter at Chapel Hill. She was actually on the kind of

the front lines of the whole situation. I'd gone up Monday to just assess the situation and to express my concern with the fact that the students couldn't take their final exams and piece and they were kind of locked in to the South building, but they did let me in and talk to him for a few minutes. But interestingly enough, it was yeah, she is seen a Chapwellhill has befriended from the Jewish folks out there, And it was the Jewish people

that were had rescued the flag with her and holding that up. Welcome. It is Wednesday, it's May, So there's that for you nerds. I know you got a big holiday coming up as we head into the weekend with your Star Wars stuff. So happy for you. And even though we are making this transition into spring, when uh, you know people usually get in a better mood, everyone's just all mad. Everyone's just angry, and they're

taking it out on college campuses. And that is where we're going to start our conversation this morning with the Lieutenant Governor of the State of North Carolina, Mark Robinson. Mark, how you doing today, sir? I'm doing fine. I'm good. Before I dip in, dip into what we're dealing with here and uh, well really everywhere, I want to jump back with you to your days as a younger man, you know, eighteen ish, ready to tackle the world, trying to figure out what you're going to do.

Did you consider at that point attempting to get a PhD in imagination and poetry through a Marxian lens? Uh? Did you? Did you? Did you? Baby toy with the idea of getting a doctorate in Marxist poetry? That was oh wow, okay, because one of the student leaders up to Columbia, that's that's her, that's what she's getting a doctorate in and it's so absurd that the listeners thought I was joking with them so well that for the course, along with the lunacy of their protests, so well, and I

want to talk about it. We played your audio yesterday of you talking about what was going on over u n see. But I want to say this. I was so angry watching that flag come down, that Palaestinian flag go up, And then I was so hopeful because in my twelve thirteen years however long we've been on the air here of broadcasting, when when when insanity comes to Chapel Hill, it generally is allowed to play out, and that was not the case yesterday. Why is this dude, Why is this dude still

have the word interim in front of him? That's your Chancellor. I'm proud of us. What say you, sir? That's the same thing that I say. What he did just say transcends politics, it transcends opinions. It speaks directly to the foundations of our country. We had mans, idiots, whatever you want to call them, and I make no bones about calling that who literally took down the symbol of the rights that they have to protest and

put up the flag of a foreign entity on their college campus. Yeah, and this professed, this interim Chancellor Lee Roberts, he made a bold move by going back out and he put that flag up. Even in the face of danger, he went back out and put that flag up. That's where we should all stand. Protests is a right. Peaceful protest that is is a right. But I think that you know, when we do that, we should do it underneath our flag, because our flag gives us the freedom.

It's a symbol of the freedom that we have the protest. Just like when I see people burning the flag, I can't understand that concept. You are literally burning the symbol of the freedom that you have the protest to begin with, because I can assure you if you were in Palestine, if you were in or if you were in a nation that uh, well, if you were in Gaga, or if you were in China, or you were in Russia, there would be no burning the flag any of those nations.

You would be dealt with severely. Well, in Russia you'd fall out of a window accidentally a few days later. So but to your point, and and and so people are going, well, wait a second, you know the the you know the Spring Quarters Uphill that you can burn flags that they meant your flag. You can burn your flag, right, you can go you can go to the flag store, you buy yourself a flag. You want to have a little protest on your lawn and whatever, you can do

that. This is this is my flag, this is your flag mark, this is everybody who is a taxpayer in Sity of North Carolina's flag. You don't get to burn that. Sorry, no, that's exactly right. You don't get to take that flag down. You don't get to decide you're gonna fly some foreign anti flag over that university. And again I reiterate my thoughts on burning the flag. You have a right to do it, but you're literally burning the symbol of what gives you you know what. It's dumb.

It is dumb. I agree with you. It's ridiculous. It's like a ridiculous concept. But that's what we're seeing all across the nation right now. We're seeing total lunacy. Now, I don't want to leave NC State. They had a march through there. I think they arrested one female student. I don't even know they arrested or for something minor, but I think on

a more serious note. There is the There is the I'm gonna show you who's in charge part of what the interim chancellor did, but there's also I'm sitting there and I'm watching this, and people were emotionally struck by watching that flag get torn down and saying things like I'm a head over to Chapel Hill, and I think if you're a president, chancellor, provos is somebody in charge in higher ed right now and you look at that, you realize that

that has the potential to pop off. So there are real safety concerns by nipping this in the bud that you're also hoping to address. That. You're absolutely right, and that's part of the problem that we're having. You know, you have these students, and I hate to say this, Casey, but there I think they're a great deal of a number of those people who are out there protesting that simply have been fool They've been duped into doing this.

They don't even understand what they're protesting and really why they're there. They've been driven into anger by false narratives. But there is a cadre of folks out there who are there to simply agitate that I don't think they care about Palestine. They don't care about the Palestinians, they don't care about the Israelis. What they want to do is try to fundament destroy the fundamental foundations on all of our systems. And they are out there simply to agitate, to

cause violence, to disrupt, and to divide. And those are the people that we need to find. And those are the people that we need to deal with because they are the drivers of this thing. And you know, there's many theories about where the sources of this is coming from, but there's no doubt about the fact that there are professional agitators out there driving it. And I think we need to find those folks that hold them accountable well.

And by the way, this is this interim chancellor. What's the story there I have? I mean, the process are Burger and the crew? Are they going to get this guy in there? I admittedly I don't know. Does the governor have some veto on this because they're already mad at him, as you well know, because he was in a picture with Art Pope, who, by the way, I believe has donated like ten million dollars to UNC. So if you want to real I believe he made a commitment for

ten million a few years ago. My point is, yeah, so the is this guy gonna get the gig? Does he want the gig? What's the process? Because they're gonna come. This is going to incite much more pushback on this, and I think that I think he's the right man for the job. I honestly, it looks like to me, it looks like now that he is I have not spoken with him. I'd like to speak

with him. I'm on my way to Raleigh as we speak. I'll be there this morning and I'll get more details on so I won't say anything out of bounds about what's happening. But this is I think a moment where we can start to turn the corner on these campuses and get people to understand the simple premise that they say they believe in. They say campuses are supposed to be a safe space for free speech. Right now, they are not. They are not They're not a safe place for free speech for Jews right now

for Jewish people. As a matter of fact, some campuses they're not safe at all for Jews, not just for speech, but something for existing And they're not a safe space for free speech for conservatives, and that's been proven over the last a couple of decades. The more and more left these universities go, they don't want inclusion. They say they do, but they wan't. The only people they want to include are people who think just like them,

and that is a huge problem. We have gotten to get some leadership again that tells these young people you are not here the state social protest and push your views on others and exclude other people. You are here for the purposes of building a career, right, and that that's the behavior that you need to model on this university campus. And by the way, the permissiveness

of protests at u NC. If you look at the guidelines, there's all sorts of things you can do, but it doesn't matter what the list says you can or can't do. It's always going to be that, you know, you got to dip your toe into the thing you can't do. And what that brings about is a phone call that I had. I don't know if you listen to the segments before you came on, we had a dad

call in. He's got a daughter UNC. She was literally one of the students who grab the American flag when they pulled it down so they didn't put it on the ground or do anything to it. And he has to get a call from his daughter. Right a college kid calling their parents should be begging for money or crying their eyes out because I don't know their their boyfriend broke up with them. Not hey, daddy, how do I fight communists? And I mean, imagine that you're your parent, you know what I'm

talking about. Imagine that phone call from your kid who you just sent off to the state school so that you know that she can be well rounded or whatever. That baffles me, man, it is I felt the exact same way when I was at the University of North Carolina at Greensboro listening to some of these students babble on about how great socialism and communism are. And I'm

sitting here thinking, you are sitting in the lap of capitalists luxury. You're in this beautiful air conditioning university with every every imagined luxury around you, whether it be technology, whether it be things you know, the food that you eat. You're surrounded by the trappings of capitalism. This university was literally created by it. And here you are counting the communist system or the socialist systems

that have literally brought nations to their nees. It's ridiculous casing. We've gotten to get back to teaching our children about and I'm going to say that the absolute dangers of communism, the absolute destruction of socialism. We've seen nation after nation be bought to their knees through these systems. We've seen tens of millions of people killed under these systems. It's time to start teaching our children that again. And the beauty of that is too. It's not like you have

to jump in the way back machine. You know, there's a stat there's a stat they had where it was like half of kids under the area the students under the age of twenty or something didn't know about the Holocaust or they heard of them, but they didn't know fully about it. And so you know, it begs the question, how are we spending our time here? But they don't have to go back to fascism and communism and everything in the

past they have. There are a multitude of examples right now. Venezuela, I think would be the best, the best look for a US student, considering the US is the number one place that has resettled Venezuelans, albeit legally, I would point out, through legal channels, and they also are outsized based on population within the illegal migration here. And you can watch that in the lifetime of most of these students, what happened down there with Maduro and

Chavez. So if I'm a professor, I'm making a lesson out of that. But maybe I'm not cut out for professoring. All right, I got to get over to the other big story, and that is this, this, this tragedy in Charlotte. I'm looking at this dude who is on bond. He's got mark I'm forty three. This guy has almost as many arrests as I am years old, and tragically, four officers lost their lives, multiple injured, and I had to listen to the President of the United States

and my own governor talk about gun control. Again. Sure, let's before we get into the people who want to make this political, let's let's talk about on the ground. Have you have you have you talked with any family members, any of the local officials down there? What are you hearing? I have not. I've had reports from from folks that are closer the situation.

We have not been obtrusive with the family members. We've allowed them their time to grieve properly, to spend their time with their family members and their their friends. I believe there's going to be a funeral on Friday. We're going to try to attend that. You know, we like to stay a breath of these things, but we don't want to step in and be obtrusive.

We like to allow the agencies to do the things that they need to do and more importantly, give the family members the space that they need need to get over shock and loss like what they suffered the other day and so. But when it comes right down to it, Casey, here's the bottom line. I'm tired of people telling me that I can't own an AR fifteen because a dog one district attorney or a dog one or whoever it may be, whatever agency it may be, refuses to do their job and hold criminals

accountable. You let them walk, and you let them walk after violent crime, violent crime, robberies, you let them steal up the nine hundred and ninety nine dollars and don't hold them accountable. You're completely lax on these criminals. And then when things like this happen, we're shocked. We have got to get back to holding criminals accountable. If we need more space, we'll

find it. If we need to put tents out in the woods somewhere to hold them, let's do it. But these folks that are obvious violent criminals, we have charge after charge after charge, can no longer get ten bites at the apple, can get that one bite that gets at the core and cost people their lives. Like in this situation, it has gotten to come to an end. And these cowardly, lazy district attorneys and others who refuse

to hold these people accountable. And I'm gonna say this, sheriffs who refuse to work cooperate with other agencies and with the federal government to protect their citizens. They even need they need to reside or need to step up and do their dog on job to make sure that people of this state are protected. Because we've let this go entirely too far. It's time to take a stand on this. And the stand we need to take is to get folks in

those agencies to do their jobs. And what a contrast to by the way, Mark with these kids caused plane as freedom fighters and revolutionaries at literally the very same time that officers you know two of the officers who were killed.

The story is that they left cover to try to aid another officer. If you listen to the audio the radio trap, you hear it literally in real time, like they are they are willing to throw themselves into this situation in harm's way to do what it is they're trying to do, which is something that there is not an ounce of courage on that campus to save one guy who may be a domestic bomber, just because I think one of the nine

to eleven terrorists went to UNC. But at that point we find ourselves able to really see who's willing to put it on the line for what they believe for. Yeah, that's exactly why, and that's why so sad when you have elected officials, whether it be a district attorney, whether it be a sheriff, whether it be any any person who refuses to do the things that need to be done to keep their sense in safe. Who's gonna ultimately pay

the cost for that. It's gonna be that man or woman that's out there in that bag, out there wearing that bag, wearing that gun, wearing that uniform. They're gonna be the ones that's gonna pay the cost, and their families are going to pay the cost because they're going to be the ones running into somebody who should have already been locked up and taken care of. Yeah, and the I was like, gonna, there's one other little point

that I wanted to add there. Oh yeah, this is it. And uh, by the time we get to dudes, I hate that we have to have a hats and bats crew, Mark. I mean, but when you continually tell somebody have about thirty seconds, you keep telling them thirty nine times, Hey, I know we arrested you, but you know, well, we'll figure it out, and eventually that person, by the time they have continued to expand whatever their criminal enterprise is, they're not going to be

taken alive. And it creates this situation. So I'm up against the clock. Mark, I got to let you go. But I hate that we're having to talk about this today. I want to talk about fun stuff, but here we are. I do too, and in our hearts go out to the families of those police officers who were lost, and like I said,

we will continue to keep them in our prayers. All right, Mark, thank you so much, and we will take a break hang on, people don't make it easy between UNC and the what happened in Charlotte, and I would say that there'd be time for politics, but that time was seized upon yesterday when I started seeing statements from Biden and Governor and Stein and everybody digging into this talking about new Hey, we got a crack down on the

guns. That's what they were literally doing right there. It was literally what they were doing or tempting to. So you know, there's that I got no appetite for it. And this see Mark didn't take the bait, you know what. Good on him, Good on him right there, all right, eight thirty seven. You know what's crazy too, is I don't know how closely. I have a very curated follow list, much to the dismay of some of you on the show account. But I do it so that

I can use it as a prep tool. And it's a lot easier too under the way that Elon kind of set how the how Twitter will populate now, and I follow on that account because I've had people ask me like, why do you follow the ral reporters? Why do you follow this? Why do because I follow the people who are new who will make the news but

also who will make the news how they want it to be. You know what I'm saying, So I can, yeah, you get you get a little glimpse into it, and so it's probably I think we probably on the show account probably follow more news if you just carve out the news people. I would say it's probably more mainstream or left leaning, just because there's more

of them, because I want to have that cross section. And it's kind of like, who's the actor Michael Rappaport, right, Remember my Michael Rappaport During the entirety the Trump administration was was one of the loudest trolls in the building. And even that dude has like come around, and so like seeing some seeing people who normally would be all about students doing their thing over there, if they're realizing that this is bad for you and you actually want to

be strategic and what you're hoping to accomplish. Because I'm sure the protesters are listening to me right now. If you've lost the reporters who normally would put you in the most beneficial light, you done screwed up. I would say it more aggressively, but I think you catch what I'm putting down. Here. If the people who normally run cover for you're like, nah, man, not this, you might want to rethink how you're going about this, just saying wait, what is this? Okay? All right, Boston Paul's

drunk already. I don't know what he's emailing me this morning. I'm not gonna name names. Roj. You saw the same thing with like people who traditionally I think would be backing the students out there who are also recoiling on social media. Yeah. Yeah, let that be a litmus test to who the hell do you think you're convincing. That would be my hot take on that. All right, we got more audio we got to get into because just because it's all delicious. You know what's interesting too, is when they're

interviewing people. Now, look, this dude's wearing a shirt that says defund the media. So I have some insight in probably where his head's out on some of this stuff. This might be the best encapsulation of man on the street interview outside of Columbia University that I have seen, And I just want to play it for you and tell me if you can find any flaws in his logic. See the majority of these college students honestly know exactly what they're

protesting. For the majority of these college students, I would point out, too, Ross, what's your read on the dude who gives the answer? You wouldn't that's not a straight white dude, right, you know, or not straight in the sexual but I mean, it's that's a basic white dude. That dude looks like he has either some Middle Eastern heritage. He might have some Latin heritage. I don't know, but remember everything's about identity politics.

The guy answering, yeah, the guy he looks like a big New Yorker, like when you wi a picture that going to be in your head, you know, I don't Yeah, I don't know. If he's Italian. I mean, he could be. I don't know. I don't know.

But the point I want to make here is I'm bringing it up because it literally that's the way that they were attacking this dude in some of the comments, And the reality is like that construction worker who said f Joe Biden the other day, or those the Chick fil A workers down in Atlanta who were mostly black women who were insanely happy to see Trump there. Like people want to use the identity politics obviously as as a weapon in a positive sense,

but also in a cudgel. This is just a dude. This is just a dude who is from an innocuous standpoint, Like I would look at him and go, he might be Italian, he might have a little Middle Eastern heritage, he might be Hispanic, but he just sounds like a New Yorker LESA. I could picture him being in the stands at Yankee Stadium with

some change. Yeah. And you know, these when we think of New York, these are the people that you don't envision because you know, it's just every time you look to New York, it's just the insane people there. But if you go to New York, these are the people. These are many of the people that you're surrounded with. And I think he's gonna sum it up so nicely. Here we go. See the majority of these college students honestly know exactly what they're protesting for. The majority of these college

students are here on a government loan. They are studying something unbelievably stupid. They are basically being built for money. They have no idea it's the next cool thing to do. The average person, I think at these protests is the kid that isn't cool or good looking enough to be invited to a house party. So because they're not invited to a house party, they make their own, which is out here. Which is why what happens when they summon

these people with a flyer, ten thousand of them show up. These are ten thousand people with nowhere else to be. I mean, you know me, I like the Devil's advocates, I don't know how I punch holes in that. Now it goes along with the professor that we aired if you do yesterday from n YU or he's saying, you know, the problem is a lot of these kids now right, they're not having any sex, like they're not doing they're not doing right, and like we've seen this before too.

We're like polls were like the gen z whatever you want to call it, is a gen z where they're just they don't drink like they used to do, Like that's not a thing that happens anymore. So they don't the inhibitions aren't being loaded, so they're not doing what typical college students do and now they're looking for something to do. And what I'm going to be is I'm going to be a revolutionary and mommy and daddy's a trust fun trust fun.

Yeah yeah yeah. I mean did you ever think we'd get to a point where I'd be on the radio advocating that your kids go and get go to a kagger and do something that they regret. It just goes along to what we were saying yesterday. It was where my big issue is, yeah, scrol my timeline. I'm like, why can't you be normal? Just be a normal person, go a pregnancy scare, you know what. I'm sorry I think about that, But come on, have a normal Hue experience.

It doesn't have to be so drastically different than what has always been. Oh but it does, Oh but it does. We maybe we're just the old guys yelling on the lawn, all right, Raced agent, he's with us. He's guy yelling on the lawn too. Dude. I got to ask you, just because I'm sure that there's a little cliquish gossip. How big of a diva do you have to be as a weatherman to get fired by a national news organization? And are our weather Are there weather divas that we

don't know without naming names of course? Oh wow? Without naming names, I would say yes, not particularly the person you're speaking of, because I do not know that person. I know who you're talking about, but don't know that person personally. I just be clear. I don't want to put ray on the This is one of the one of the weather guys for ABC National. They parted ways and they said he had anger issues. But also,

I don't know that I believe this. I don't believe everything unless I know what the specific incident is because there's a lot of politics sometimes wrapped it. Maybe he had opinions coworkers and I don't know. But they parted ways, and I'm like, how diva can a weather person be? And I thought, probably pretty diva because I'm in this business. We're all in the broadcast business, and we know how it shows. So well. Some stories,

man, Yeah, I got a couple. I mean they're not for air, but yeah, listen, you know there's there's divas in the radio business too. You and I, of course we are not those divas, but we are in a way where the Ross and I are like the Lost. We're like latchkey kids. So we're okay with that. But that's our version of diva. Man, I'm pretty good with being mediocre and nonde. I'm good, you know, whether it's the eagle sore. But weasels don't

get caught in jet engines. I think that's a good point. But they will kill you. According to Ross's mom, weasels and ferrets. That's true. All right, we bere do some weather before we diva out go exactly. Yeah, we don't have to clouds East Sunshine starting to break out now.

There's been some areas of cloud and fog, some of that hanging around down near Fayetteville and Clinton, but through the triangle the try it looking pretty good now, warm afternoon, the low eighties, fifties tonight, so still fairly comfortable at night if you want to wait it out and open up the windows. You may not have to put the air on. Sun and mid

eighties Tomorrow. Could see some upper eighties and mid eighties again Friday, and the chance of showers butter shows be back starting Friday night and into the weekend. So likely on the showers and butterstorms for Saturday, possibly Sunday. Looks like they'd have a buyas toward the afternoon though. Okay, all right, well we'll chat tomorrow diva. Okay, and we'll have the brown M and ms. You requested a thank you, then there you go. Race Agic

from the Weather Channel and Jeff Bellinger joins us. Next. Welcome Jeff Bellinger from Bloomberg News. Jeff, what's going on? Okay? See good morning. Stock sended the month of April on a sour note. The futures are down this morning, but they have been moving off their lows over the last hour. Right now, the Dow futures down thirty seven points. The Federal

Reserve ends two days of monetary policy discussions about two o'clock this afternoon. Investors are sure interest rates will be left unchanged, but they'll be parsing the statement released when the meeting is over and listening carefully to what Chair Jerome Powell has to say during his news conference. Private employers added one hundred and ninety two thousand workers to pay rolls in April, according to ADP, hiring exceeded expectations.

ADP says workers' annual pay increased five percent. Infest rates on home loans moved higher last week. Bankers report the average rate on a thirty year fixed rate mortgage jumped to seven point to nine percent. This hasn't happened often. That's why a sales decline at Starbucks rattled investors. Shares of the coffee company fell sharply and after hours trading yesterday, starbucks first quarter results showed the first

decline in sales since twenty twenty. Budget conscious consumers are resisting half off deals and new lavender lattes. Amazon dot com shares rallied than after hours training, and they are higher pre market today. Amazon's first quarter results top Wall Street forecasts. Numbers in the company's cloud division were especially strong, and advertising revenue increased. In case, some of your favorite channels may be missing today depending

on how you watch TV. Fifteen Ballet regional sports networks went dark on Comcast cable systems overnight comcasts and Diamond Sports Group could not resolve a feed dispute. The Fubo streaming service has dropped all of Warner Brothers Discovery networks from its lineup that includes Food and HTTV. Charter Communications Spectrum cable subscribers can see paramount global

channels for now, but they could be on borrowed time. The two sides agreed at the last minute to extend negotiations for a new carriage deal, Casey, So we're we're where all the cord cutters thought they were avoiding as well. Essentially, Yeah, oh good, I'm not being able to watch House Hunters on Fubo fubu or Fubo fubo. Oh that's gonna kill me today. So I don't even know what that is. All right, Thank you, Jeff, appreciate it. Okay, have a good day. Talk to you

tomorrow. I think you Yeah, there you go, Jeff Bellinger, Bloomberg News. I shouldn't say I don't know what it is. I do see it. I think it was preloaded on my Apple TV, but I've never used it, so don't know. All right, just because we got to have something that's not the insanity to cap off today's show, allow me to introduce this guy. Florida, then Florida then something in the water they er or sand that makes you do all that crazy crap. It's like the state

is one week dumb ass trapped. Nowhere else has the Florida Man. It is almost like as the weird after climbs and to find out haven't in Florida every time? In Florida then Florida Man if anyone can jeer me if you know you can't, just mind lafe you crazy, but of course, but it's not. It's bad crap, crazy as yours. Nowhere else are you gonna find him? They're so used to it, they don't find him.

Hooray for Florida. There and I'm gonna require a judgment here. I'm gonna and by the way this article is the way it's worded makes me laugh too. A Florida man has been arrested after flinging pasta with sauce. I'm reading verbatim pasta not just pasta, but pasta with sauce at another driver in a road rage incident, Nolan Goens became enraged over what was it? Glaring headlights? So I guess somebody had bright on. He flipped around. Here we

go. Mister Gowans was traveling in Saint Petersburg around nine pm when a glare from a driver's headlight sparked the incident. Well traffic was still moving, mister Goings purportedly threw pasta with sauce from his passenger side, hurling the food out of his open window, hitting another person who was driving. So he'd he'd come sideways up on and rolled passenger window down, driver's windows down. Boom,

here's your here's your pasta delivery. And I've seen a lot of theories on this, Like I saw even one of our listeners tried to invoke all of drag olive garden into this, which actually made me think, what if it was olive garden chicken alfredo, because we know it was pasta with sauce. I don't know if it was with protein, And he just wanted another person to understand how good that I was just think of the same thing.

And we haven't even discussed this. That's like, yeah, he's trying to share the amazing, amazing food from Tuscany, that's where the chefs are trained, and he's like, oh, like I gotta try these. Yeah, this guy, you know, I was like, oh, this guy looks like he doesn't know I am willing, which, by the way, Ross has never shared his olive garden with me, right, So like that's a because you know gluten allergy, I don't want to I don't you don't have

that, and I want to know that. Yeah, I was assuming said that many times when you have and then I don't, and then that so so that's a possibility, or he's a psychopath. I guess there's another possibility. But you know, hey, Florida man, all right, so you think you you also hold up? And that's great because that was the when the olive garden thing was raised. I thought, well, what if he's

just trying to like expand this guy's culinary education. And if I'm like driving in the street and somebody throw his olive garden at my car, you know, like sticks, you know there's the olive groard, I'm like, well, bless you too, buddy. Yeah, well that's the flip side of this, right, what so if you had to pick a pasta sauce combination, I'd have to go for cheese. Cheese, really okay,