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I was concerned because I initially I searched sky and it didn't come up because our search thing on this next gen sucks so bad. And then I thought, maybe we just labeled it lunatics in the system, so it's going to have to check the alternative. Yeah, the's fun, I'm telling you, man. We get around, we get around election time, and all of a sudden, everybody is so filled with rage, which to some extent I get, right, although arguably basically the entirety of the time that whoever you

like isn't in charge. That is our natural reaction these days to you know, go out and scream and stuff. But people do it differently. Some people just vent their rage in a more traditional sense, you know, kind of a one on one thing, like a couple guys getting together or some women meeting up or whatever, and they're just like, you know, they're talking about life and stuff, how hard it is to do stuff, how

expensive stuff is, and then they and then they vent there. But it's more of a general thing, right Whereas you know, you look at a bunch of folks who literally gather for the purpose of versus it being the natural progression of conversation, right, you know, inherently you run into somebody at

the grocery store and you don't want to have a negative conversation. But that person you look in their cart and they have this thing that you just bought that you can't believe was twice what it costs three years, and then boom, there's your conversation. I kind of like the organizational nature of this because

it's easier to identify the lunatics. But I can't imagine signing up for something where you like inherently know all right, well we're gonna go and it's a support group of sorts, but it's just us wiling out like crazy people. I guess I don't know, maybe you know some people. I've heard people literally say that this is uh the sky Screamer or now and this is not new. I just want to point this out. But like these these stories about how in this case, women women gather, women gather to let out

the pent up rage. Do you remember and she do you remember in She Hulk, like the first episode ross how far did you get? Did you watch even one episode? Or were you smart enough to go? Okay, but you're aware of the part where She's like, I have to practice being happy every day while avoiding my own rape and murder. Right, because that thing went on the on the Twitter. You saw that statement, right, Oh, I am dude. I'm sorry. Do you realize how much better

your life was just prior to having to listen to that insanity? All right? Well, that was a big thing that It was a clip that I saw over and over and over. And I point this out because it's like, I can't remember exactly what she said, but it was that moment where, even if you were giving it a good faith effort, you're like, dimb out, So what do we have here. We have a bunch of women getting together and screaming, and they're filled with rage, and they're filled

with rage because the patriarchy. They're filled with rage for you know, the orange cheetoh leini whatever, all gathered together and they're like, well, we came up with this new way to deal with it, and this is always how it goes. I'm like, oh, okay, well what's the new way? And by the way, I just want to be abundantly clear, I'm not down on people gathering. And if you find it cathartic, if

you find it healthy for you, emotionally for your family. Like people gather, people gather with affinity groups, like minded sports fans, people gather with folks we in things that are stress relieving. Uh, you know, they go to the gym and they and they get, you know, into that culture. So and you know, or if you find running cathartic and you want to, uh, you want to get up with the that's not my

beef. That being said, I'm sitting there and I'm watching this thing on USA today and here's I'm going to let you hear what it sounds like. But so it's women just screaming in a circle. It's women with giant sticks beating the ground in a circle. It's women punching inanimate objects. Not so much in a circle that I have to hear about all the grievances. And I'm like, I'm aware that this stuff exists, but i feel like the only reason we're doing this story is so you can be like and look at

look at what it's doing to women around you. They're losing their damn minds because of this guy. And I'm like, well, some of them, yeah, you know, like the sky screamers. The after Trump's inauguration and I know, and I know what you're saying. You're saying, well, k C, I saw that video that was not all women, and I would say that's your opinion. But anyway, back to this, so here we go, Here we go. Uh, here's the women with the sticks

and the punch and stuff and the screaming. I hear some similarity, a little more organized. Yeah, and this isn't tybo right, They're not all doing things standing behind Uh? Was he? Was it? Billy Blank? No? He wasn't Tybou? What was he? I don't know one of them. Billy I remember Billy Blank's was everywhere. It's like it's pretty loosey goosey man. You know what else? It reminds me of the tree people in the woods of Ashville, right or this out there pledging their love to

trees and bawling their eyes out. All right, I just can't this are sticks banging on stuff. Let me let me say this, because this is this is groundbreaking stuff. You're doing golf. Okay, that's golf. You're doing golf. Can I for just about yelling incoherently in many instances for no discernible reason or no reason that should have elevated to the point where you're screaming bloody murder, obscenities. Okay, checkbox golf, punching inanimate objects that you

know you shouldn't punch, like a ball washer. None of that stuff's made out of styrofoam. But at least you have an excuse. You're gonna shank your drives the rest of the day, just like you've been shanking them all damn day. But now you Yeah, I hurt my hand on the on the thing there because I'm dumb, and then banging a stick into the ground or they don't do it in the video. I like to occasionally throw them in bodies of water. It's not rational, but we already have this thing.

Come down to the club. I know that you're you're, you're you know, you're screaming in your circle against the patriarchy and whatnot. Come down to the golf club. Tell you what. Run into the pro shop, get you one of those cute little outfits, bring me a sandwich and a beer on your way out, and I'll show you what I mean. Don't talk too much on the cart, please. It is a it's a nice day. I just want to be with nature. Does that help, like

to throw that invite so that we can because that's what you're doing. The only the only it's I thought of like when I used to be a kid and rage quit a video game, but then there's the stick part. So I had to go with golf, the adult version of that, where you rage quit every day and then you're like, ah, I bet if I go buy this other thing that I don't need, will be good to go. So there you go. Found that cathartic this one. Oh, look

at that. Look at that. That brought me relaxation to highlight the insanity. All right, six sixteen, we got Kamala Harris is Rambo or something I don't know. I don't know, Michael Cohen on the stage yesterday. And you know today's a thing. You think, well, it's Tuesday, that's true. I guess we get paid on the fifteenth. It's the day before payday. That is true as well. But it's also one other thing.

It's an election day. So I'll explain how we're handling that. Those of you have listened to the show, you're in the know, but we'll give you details next here on the CaCO Day Radio program, CaCO Day radio program phone number eight eight eight nine three four seven an eight seven four. Ah, well, you know what this would be a good lead in because it is runoff election day, the amount of all right, let me ask

the question in the most trouble making way possible. Any of you off, any of you, any sworn law enforcement officer listening to the show, and I suspect there's one or two of you, Why on God's green earth would you allow yourself to be stood there in a photo op with Josh Stein or Wral show up for their police Week. Well, we're gonna light our tower

blue. When they spend three hundred and sixty four other day, I guess we'll call it fifty one because they're doing its national Police Week, fifty one weeks of year, weeks out of the year, hating you and if it's there, so oh I don't hate you, well, then hating you with

their actions. And again this is not middle of the road. People who I think can look at at things and have questions whether it is the the the incident involving the dude from the Navy right where he went up to the door with a gun in hand, and then people say, ah, they said police but also, I don't know if you know this. Sometimes people rob you they say police and look, there's a lot going on there, and those are all legitimate discussions. But wil every time there's something they literally

will platform activists. Remember we did the story of the thirteen year old. This is even this is not even an officer involved shooting, but this was the same activists, right, this thirteen year old who was found shot to death in that apartment near North Hills, And you really quickly got the impression that rather than just doing a straight up story, they had this very same activist whose organization is predicated on what were clearly justified law enforcement shootings where a

Raleigh police officer was presented with a situation. It's on video. It's clear as hell. It's not even a question of oh do they know they were a cop and they drew down on police. And when you platform those activists for everything that you do, and they come in and they're dishonest, Like in the case of the girl, thirteen year old girl, while it didn't involve police, the target became school and to some extent, police was school

resource officers. Well, she had been suspended and it was involved in a court case, so she couldn't go to school. So the natural thing was she goes to a party at two am at a known drug den flop house, party place with gangsters, and she ends up dead. It's obviously the schools fault, and I'm sorry it rings hollow with your National Police Week garbage.

That ship is sailed, And I don't know why any member of law enforcement, in the same way that I tell politicians that are not in favor, why you would give them five seconds of your time is beyond me. Do you think Josh Stein or do you think Roy Cooper comes on this show? You think that happens a lot? Uh Ross? Would you go check the master file? We have a master guest list. Just if you could just give me a quick count an estimate on the number of Roy Cooper appearances.

Let me check that out. Put it in the zero zero no, no, no, no, not this year, not this no, I mean like the the twelve thirteen years. Yeah, that's that's a twelve year average. Zero, the twelve year average, So it averaged less like every one, less than ever. Never happened. It's never happened. So what are you doing? Why am I seeing Josh Stein, I'm gonna walk around with these officers. He's probably walking up and asking him for directions. They

got a camera guy at the distance. Hey, I'm gonna go talk to these cops and they're gonna be polite because they kind of have to be. And then we'll just say that, you know, they were like, oh my gosh, we love you, or at least that's the impression that's out there. By the way. I'm not accusing him of doing that, although after the crap he pulled with Jim O'Neil and that's slapped down and line them and there's still lying about the rape kits. That's the whole thing. But

it's the stuff that baffles me. Why would you do it? Why go anywhere near these people that fifty one weeks out of your hate you, and if it wasn't an election year, would probably still hate you, at least on the politician side. I don't understand it, but I do understand that today is a runoff election and we're gonna handle this as we normally do. Very simple. You're listening to the sound of my voice. You're in a runoff election. Today's the day, and let me tell you your buck will

never go further. Judging by the early voting numbers, it is far far more valuable right now. If you're in a runoff election, everybody you turn out counts so much more because the numbers are so little. So if you are in a runoff election and we got state wide stuff, we got congressional stuff, there's not a ton statewide, which is you know, partly to do with that, but you got state auditor. On the Republican side,

you got obviously lieutenant governor. Speaking of Jim O'Neill and how Weatherman, I've not look Jim O'Neill. Jim O'Neill. He's the one who got done dirty by Josh Josh. You boy there Silver spoon Stein, and and I like to see what O'Neill's doing with the kid who was punching teachers. That story made me happy, Casey, If officers don't interact with folks who already are not giving them a fair shake, how will the relationship improve by those folks

not being an elected office anymore? And the reaction of the public, that's how In the same way that folks get thrown out of office. If people think that the police are out of control, or at least you can convince them of that, and we're not. We're not one hundred percent either way. Here on the show, we take a much more measured approach. Look at the situation, that is policy or practice, or a situation justified. Can have I looked at it through multiple lenses? Have I asked myself in

that situation where the standard for most things comes down to reasonableness? Have I looked at it through that lens? And how a human might react in that situation, both by the officer as well as the individual. Case in point, somebody banging on your door in the middle of the night. You don't know what the hell's up. They yell police, but you can't visually verify

that. What do you do? I saw somebody write an article They said the only logical thing to do, and I feel that this is an exaggeration because I've literally been presented with this situation, so I'm not talking out my behind here. He said. What you gotta do is instead of protecting your home or any of the rest, now, what you should do is run out the back door. If it's cops, somebody will be there, because that's what cops do, right cover the back, and if you know your

hands are visible and all that, they'll probably just take it down. If it's not, maybe the bad guy hadn't thought of that. I don't that's is that reasonable? I guess it's one way to deal with it. But I told you I had. I moved into a brand spanky new condo apartment. Basically, a guy owned a building. The friend of mine is his wife was at Dennis, so her office was downstairs. It was a downtown building and that he had taken the upstairs the building and turned it into this

really nice apartment that's just kind of stand alone. And that was because him and his wife, you know, years down the road when they runted the building, the kids would be out of the house. They would retire. They actually just retired, and then they were going to sell their house and then they wanted to travel. They had a house at at a lake this is up in Minnesota that really nice, and then they were going to go live up there and then they would keep the house in town or the apartment.

But there was this window and he said, hey, man, if you want to rent it. I wasn't going to rent it, but I know you're looking for a play it was amazing. The problem was Chris liked to do some stuff himself. He was an engineer by trade, and they jacked up some with the phone security system, and so like one of the first nights I'm in there, it had an electric door lock too. See it kind of fancy with the tech he put in there. But the problem was it was too fancy, and so I wake up in the middle of

the night. I hear and you have to understand, it opens a ground level door in the back and then you go straight upstairs and as you come up the stairs, you're in the apartment, so the landing is in once the door is open. Middle of the night, I hear two guys coming up those stairs. I can kind of see because have my bedroom's position out into because my bedroom faces off the back of the building under the stairs.

And so they come in and I have already extracted myself from bed. I am already holding something, and rather than yelling out because they're getting up close, I'm trying to hear what they're saying. And I can hear the moment immediately when it realizes and dawns on the officers that they're inside of a residence. You know, you would think with those stairs in that door that you're

entering an egress within a commercial building. But they figured out the top of the stairs and I hear him yell out police ironically, ironically, this is what a crazy small world it is. The officer, one of the officers was a friend of mine from Tailgate's brother, so I had met him once or twice, and at that point I literally told him, I said, all right, I'm back here, and I yelled it's me to the guys. That was helpful, and I understand that that's not a unique situation,

but that was a situation we had to deal with. Were those officers in the wrong. No, they got an alarm call the commercial building that had only recently been given its occupancy license, and that's what it was showing within their equipment. Like, those scenarios out there exist and they're in this gray area, right, What should I have done? What I have been within my right to come out and start yelling at him and perhaps a provoked reaction

before either of us could identify what's going on. Maybe maybe there's you know, so yeah, this is why I get fired up over this stuff, and I go on these long diatribes. But it just I don't understand it.

I don't understand embracing people who are not genuinely concerned with hey, how can we do this the best way, but rather with using you as a political pawn anytime it feels right, anytime you know that Chay or the lawyer Crump shows up right sitting there and standing on a stage with that dude who hates police and also he loves money but hates police, but kind of loves police because that's the source of a lot of his money. All right,

I off the soapbox there, that's my annual diet tribe. All right. So I mentioned it is a runoff day. Got a few races done, a governor, auditor, some congressional stuff. So if you are an elected officially you want to be on the show. This is how we do it. This is equality. This is equal opportunity. This is not equity the I just want to be clear. This is equality meaning if you meet those those those requirements, which are pretty easy, and Ross can vet you,

which he knows how to do, then we'll give you some aretime. And that's an open invitation to anyone who's on the ballot in these runoffs right left or otherwise that way, we don't have to do paperwork and stuff AnyWho. All right, so that's on the table eight eight eight, nine three four seven eight seventy four. No call and try to schedule a time. We don't do that. When you're ready, call the show and we'll fit you

in just as soon as possible. All right. Few do other things going on other than just election and me on my annual police di had tribe. Oh, let's see, you know, let me go a little uplifting. I I don't want to sound like that guy, but I'm gonna sound like that guy. Most of the viral senior pranks that I've seen nowadays suck, okay, and I understand that some of that's born out of this what schools should become, which is not wholly in control obviously of students and or administrators.

But that being said, that is not very funny. Back in my day, we did good stuff. Man. You ever moved an entire petting zoo onto a dude's yard in the middle of the night, so the next morning in his community which is not gated but is still an hoa community, his neighbors or stinky in the small petting zoo on his yard, on his lawn the entire commute and he ends up getting a notice from his ho. That's a prank. Actually ask yourself, and his wife helped. I don't

know if you ever knew like dose. Now that's hilarious. Imagine you walked out this morning and you don't live on a farm and there are lamas goats. What did we have? So? Oh, he had an ostri or not an ostrochen em you. That'd be amazing, especially if you're sticking your butt up tight community you live in. That's a good senior prank man. Or some of it's just downright that's not a prank. I call that the YouTube effect this though, I love this students in Illinois going viral after for

the senior prank. They decided to hire a professional musician to follow their principle around. All right, it'd be kind of nice. Can you imagine how much how much less stressful your day would be if a soft sonata kind of you know, just throughout the day, keep you going. A little background music maybe uh maybe a little if you're into jazz, maybe get a little soft saxophone following you around. That'd be kind of nice, except they went

in a slightly different direction. Here's what's amazing about that. Not that it would be hard to pull off, but I stopped started thinking that'd be funny. But then I realized that most of the people I know, if I if I hired Ross, I don't like your attitude. I'm hiring a professional bagpiper to follow you around. Haha, I'll keep you. Would be the greatest thing in the world. See how that doesn't work in this situation. It would be like I was rowdy piper walk in everywhere, like with the

intro music and then and the bagpipers behind him. I would I would, you know, I don't like to go out or go places. No to go places, Oh my god, I would enjoy I would go everywhere. Be like yes, wife's like I need something at Target. You're like, I'm absolutely, in fact, give me a few things. I'm in there as long as possible. You're gonna go roddy piper. I see. I kind of thought you could do some brave heart stuff or you just mix it up right, got your guy there. You're like, I'm gonna now,

I'm gonna paint all weird blue streaks on me and scream about freedom. Yeah. I don't know if if you know this, but I like watching old wrestling clips. I've noticed on Twitter some a big fan. But I enjoyed just watching old rowdy rowdy Roddy Piper, you know, intro clips, not even like the match, but just him walking to the ring with the bagpipers. It's what do you call it, like bagpipes or Irish auto tune.

It's it's the greatest. So, you know, one man's prank because another man's like, you shouldn't have right, that'd be amazing, maybe that's what. Yeah, because I don't want to do it to prank. Would that be the day you'd show up in person to one of our meetings? That's what I'm saying. I would go everywhere, absolutely everywhere. It'd be the greatest thing ever. Because I don't know how meetings work where you work, but we can now you can call in, you get teams in, or

you can show up. And Ross and I tend to be the remote viewers because morning people. But no, you're there, man, No, And even with the because we have our Tuesday meeting with Trevor after the show every every week, so and it's like a recap of like you will you know,

goals and that kind of crap. Yeah, and we always we have to FaceTime in right, and I always turn my camera off, and I also tend to mute my mute my phone because I'm multitasking and I'm doing multiple things in here during the meeting, and you don't want to hear all that crap. However, However, I would show up in person in this office with the bagpipes playing, and it would be one of the greatest moments of

my life. He'd be like, all right, so let's go ahead and talk about what we're doing with the uh we're doing a software tanks for let's talk about the transition to the new sound. I'm sorry, can you stop? And you're just walking through with the head swagger? Yeah? Got a kilt. That's amazing. Oh man, Well that's the thing. I have a kilt right here. Of course you do, right. He doesn't have a kilt in like in the attic somewhere. He doesn't have a kilt in

the basement in a box. It's in his go drawer. Next time I ordered bagpipes, like a decade ago, or like twelve thirteen, years ago, as you do, the bagpipes came with a kilt. Now, I gave away the bagpipes as a gift, but I kept because I'm amazing how I still have the kilt though, So I'm ready to go. I'm ready to give it away as a gift. Or did you give it like when

I bought Lincoln drums a complete gift? Oh? Okay, all right, somebody who actually wanted it in their life, as Lincoln have any interest in the bagpipes, do we know? I don't think so. Are you sure? I think the bagpipes would probably annoy him, so I would have to I would have to do it around, you know, before and after school.

I thought, I'm just I'm guessing the pitch because of the autism, when maybe or maybe he'd enjoy you never know, you know what, I just figured out how you could end up on Joey Swoll's account, all right, going going to the gym as you do, and going through your workout, and uh, and then's just bagpipes. Man. I I enjoyed that guy's account until I realized that he openly uses steroids. And I'm like, no, he's called Joey Swollen. I know, but like he's supposed to

be like a health fitness account, and I understand. Listen, I go to the gym a lot, and you have these people that will be in the comments. They're like, yeah, but the brow us the steroids, and people are like no, but just still gonna put in the work. And obviously you never go to the gym and you don't. Yeah dude, but you you you do it. You can you can have the gains in half the time because you don't need So it's completely different. I didn't mean

to start all that. I just met the part where he's like, look at this a hole at the gym. Those are valid, but like when it comes to like health and fitness, I'm like, well, sorry, dude, Like I'm not putting steroids in my body. So it's we're on a completely different page here. What if I put them every morning in your coffee without you noticing? I think we would probably notice after a while.

But because that's the best part. There's no recovery day, so you can just you know, jack yourself up like like Ivan Drago and go to the gym every single day and you don't have to worry about that. Forty eight hours of recovery between muscle groups. So yeah, okay, but you know, also maybe you thought you got imbued with superpowers. I don't know. I just know that there's really no penalty for doing that. You know. I no, I don't like. I don't believe you, Casey, and

I can prove it now. Unfortunately, I think that there might be something, some other reason why this person will face no penalties. And by the way, it wasn't steroids, but that there's a wild story out of Arizona we got to talk about. And yes, speaking of people roid raging, we'll get to that. Kamala Harris audio. So it is six fifty. We'll take a break again. Eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four. You're you're on the old election ballot today. You want a little

chat time with the audience. Those politicians can call in. We'll get you lined up, but right now we'll take a break. Hang out, kc O Day Radio program phone number eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four. So are you guys gonna move? Are you guys gonna have to downsize? Maybe live in a motel? I'm assuming Ross that were you among those who got absolutely pilloried and bodied by the Game Stop tweet yesterday. I don't know if you saw any of this insanity, the meme stock guys,

the game Stop, the AMC's remember when that was all a buzz. Did you have anybody write you and tell you that you should be doing that when all that was going on with AMC and whatnot? Absolutely not. Oh my gosh. One of our listeners was in on because I commented on a tweet and this dude wrote me diatribes of emails. And it wasn't even nasty or anything. It was just like, I don't know, dude, because like

it sounds, it sounds boiler roomy but not. And I understand the aspect of, you know, stock price manipulation, and you don't have to convince me that people in the upper echelons of power in this country use it to

their advantage each and every day. And I get that frustration. I don't care who it is, whether it's you know, all of these Let's see the Senator this is very bipartisan, Nancy Pelosi and then the Senator as a Tuberville from Alabama, both buying this random, super random company that's up ninety percent in about five seconds and it just has to do with literal appearances before

committees that they're either on or participatory in some way that stuff. Look, I get it, But when a dude named Roaring Kitty can tweet once yesterday and crater people stop loss or stop positions or excuse me, short positions, things stop bust short positions on these and then that is what four Chan and Reddit turns into. It's kind of amazing to watch about. When you talk about the amount of risk that was associated there. I'm not gonna tell you

how to invest. You do your thing. But if if one tweet from something called Roaring Kitty, who is the guy who was literally organizing the game stop and then went dark for three years, all of a sudden causes the whole thing to spike with his mere presence, that was a that was a very volatile investment you found yourself in. I'm surprised you were still in that position. How far did you short this thing that you were still exposed like

that. As of Monday, the price of game Stop has risen ninety nine percent over the last five days, and you're thinking, well, that's great. If you own game Stop in five days, your investment's worth twice. Yes, that is true, but you have to understand that the meany part of this was people shorting it. They were shorting it, and then you had the up cycle where people were buying, and then he got down into it where people shorted and I thought that they had moved their positions out,

but apparently they just got savage. But it's a little complex to get into on the radio, and frankly, I'm probably not the one to be explaining it to you because I'm not an an advisor, but that whole thing looks suss as the kids saved, but there was money there if you timed it write. And now a bunch of people who were sitting there on their haunches had a due tweet and it just ruined their portfolio. Man, that is wild to me. All right, let's get into the Kamala Harris thing I

was attempting to explain. So she's there, and again if it was born just by hey, you gotta work hard, right, and not a grievance, but just the idea, Hey, you got to go in there and and bust your butt. And I understand that some of that is very quaint, and especially in the way that modern day businesses interact with employees and have this expectation of loyalty while providing none of their own. I get that frustration, and that is a paradigm shift. It is a paradigm shift on both

sides. And it's the new reality. That being said, this same advice will still generally benefit you, even with with blockades you run into like nepotism and you know, whatever it is. But the only people I see being openly racist in things like hiring positions or inclusion at university admissions in the modern society is not cis white dudes, not publicly, at least they get accused of. Well, they want they didn't hire because the name sounded too urban,

or you know, whatever it is. Maybe or maybe they didn't hire because you were a disaster compared to the other folks there, and maybe they decide that meritocracy is the way to go. That's not to say that people who that's in a minority group couldn't be the recipient of a meritocracy, a merit based hiring, But when they're not, you can't screen that it.

You know, obviously it's racism. Well, simultaneously sitting there and going we're going to have five graduations and you have to pick an affinity group, and then we'll have a leftovers one. Literally, it'll be presented almost as the leftovers category. Oh you didn't fit in one of our five you know, Black, Indigenous, Latino, LGBT, Oh you didn't fit into one of those, just a leftover or we're hiring, but we're only going to hire

you know, it's a This is all about diversity. Irish need not apply. I mean they don't write it out. They write it out. They just don't use Irish anymore. They've expanded that. So listening to that through the lens of how Kamala Harris normally operates and say this, it makes it that much more absurd. We have to know that sometimes people will open the door for you and leave it open. Sometimes they won't, and then you need to kick that more down. The laugh is the creepiest part. You're

gonna talk about door kicking. Try to sound a little tough while you're doing it. That being said, those are not your only options. Yes, sometimes people will I guess open the door for you, absolutely, and you can. You can. You can assign that to that's how that they integrate people within their business. You can say they're only doing it because somebody is

their nephew. Whatever. I understand that. And then the second then we sometimes you got to kick the door down sometimes, Yeah, but nine nine percent of the time it will be neither of those things. And it is how you respond in that ninety nine percent where we see the fundamental change to today, because most of the time people are not gonna hold the door open for you. Little there'll be little pockets of it, but you got to put in the work. You got to put in the work, and opportunities

may arise. Rostering your radio career, would you say that there was service somebody there holding the door open for you the whole way, or did you have to get in there and bust your butt and be unique and stand out. Yeah, I mean it took a lot of work. It's a lot of work, a lot of perseverance too. Like I can't tell you how many tapes they sent out when I was still on, like seventeen eighteen, Like sending tapes out, tapes, Man, oh my god, be back.

Then you would send it all, you know, paper resume and you'd put your your demo tape on a cassette tape and I probably do hundreds, hundreds nothing everywhere, and I don't care where it was. Remember I got a call back from where was it somewhere in Idaho once Boise. It was super excited, first first callback I ever got. Oh, no, people usually are before they go to Boise anyway. But I was saying like, at that age, it didn't matter wherever the job was, I was going

to move there right like, I'll be there tomorrow. And that's what I ended up doing. Yeah, got a call, you know, I remember the call I came back from. I was working at the World of Science before I cut my finger open and bled a lot of fossils, right, And I remember I came home my mom. My mom was like, hey, got a message on the on the on the you know, the answer machine checked it out. It was a guy in a triple white trailer in

war Head City, North Carolina. It doesn't really narrow it down. Who was like, that's where the radio station was out of and he was like, hey, I got your demo tape. Let's talk. And I was super excited. I literally was there working. I'd probably less than a month later, drove down in my car had five hundred bucks to my name, lived on the floor of my apartment. That guy's name was j. T. Bosch. He's now our boss in Greensboro. But I remember that call.

Dude to this a lunatic with the kiss tattoo, right, yes, and the Boston tattoo. So I literally got that voicemail and I remember, I remember listening to it and I started to cry. I was like, oh my god, somebody's give me a chance. Yeah, but I can't tell you how many demo tapes I sent out before I got that call back. And then you got there and you were just fat, happy and really didn't try, right, but no, once again, a little bit more effort. Okay, all right, sorry, I'm not like this is I'm

not accusing you just by yourself. I'm just that was it, right, somebody opened the door for you, and then you were good to go. There's a lot of rejection involved, right, There's a lot of rejection. I wouldn't know, of course, right, yeah, yeah, no, it's awful, absolutely, absolutely, especially when you consider when you're in that competitive environment, you're going to run into good people like obviously JT. You guys are friends to this day, even though like now you're paid to be

but but still that's not a knock on him. But also there's they'll cut your heart out people around you, especially as you move into larger markets. People all get it. The people are not as friendly. Man, That's why I hated Atlanta. Man couldn't say, my gosh, Atlanta is a

Minneapolis the same way, just cut your too. I remember walking down the hallway and being like every other radio station had worked at it was like a family environment, like you'd go to each other's houses and you'd hang out and you'd go out and have drinks and stuff. And this was like the first time I went to it. I was like twenty four to twenty five working in Atlanta, and it was like a huge deal. It was my lifeline, my dream, right, I want to work in a major market.

And I remember walking in the hallways and it was like there was competition between daparts at the same radio station, which was super weird to me. Yes, like super weird, Like we had a morning we had a morning show on another station where they were so internally competitive that it was it was ruining

the show. Yeah, super weird, and where it had been nice, but then Basically what had happened is they had they had like a strong lead, but they didn't have like a defining guy, you know, like Seacrest is defining guy, trying some other shows examples where it's ensemble shows, but there's one dude. It was much softer there, and they were moving one of the guy's day parts to kind of give him feature an afternoon he was,

and there there was this natural progression and it completely unraveled everybody. Right, they could have worked together, continued to work together, but the internal competition between three of the four was so like I have to be the name plate even though it's the show was I'm not gonna tell you the name of the show, but it didn't have anybody's name in it. And that that nastiness literally destroyed a couple of radio careers. So everything's a balance and you

got to work all this stuff out. And yes, sometimes you kick doors ninety nine percent of the time, though what you do is you figure out a way to open that door on your own, or you go around the back, or you find a window. You start a relationship with somebody inside the place. Well I was going in the yes, the but well, think about everything. You have a generation of crybabies where they don't understand, they can't accept no for an answer. Well, and then what they do

is they resort to door kicks. Yeah, they end up banging on the door and banging in the house and have tantrums. And that's consistently. We have these videos that we play on the show, right, examples of this uh huh out there, and it's just like, all right, so this thing isn't exactly how I want. Uh, we're gonna and then you know,

insert, well, we're gonna glue ourselves to something. We're gonna we're gonna scream like idiots, like a crazy like you've ever gotten a thing with a kind of crazy x Right, everything was normal and now it's an hour later and the neighbors lights are coming on because they're standing outside you're now locked door, screaming that if they can't have you, they'll do in the X y Z. It's like, you're a freaking lunatic. And I understand the

the the emotion there. But when we take that emotion, and not to justify behavior like that, but when we take that emotion and we go, you know what this is, this is a good skill for getting ahead in a business environment. You're a lunatic. What was the story? Was a Google? Right? Google is a great example, remember the good Remember the

last Google store that we did. I think you do. Google employees decided, Hey, I'm gonna wear a mask like I'm robbing a stage coach, like a little you know, bandana over my face, and then I'm going to stroll into this office surrounded by management that has known me for years, and I'm going to disrupt their ability to accomplish anything and uh, you know, make demands and even Google the wokest piece of garbage companies out there.

I was doing something, searching something the other day and they again manipulated. All I had to do was go to another search engine. I'm telling you the divide on that stuff, especially if it's negative finding old videos like I remember that time Kamalis said this, it's difficult on Google and easy on others.

I'll let you do the math on why. But that's not good men, that's not good mentor And it's sure as hell isn't funny in the way that she laughed and people go, well, you're you're reading too deeply into this. And on most cases I would agree because it's kind of a motivational thing. Oh, I don't mean to actually kick the door in, but unfortunately we're in this environment where what she says is the reality of things.

I didn't get the job I'm going to need to do. You remember the first time you heard a story of a hiring person, you know, go,

hey, what's the craziest thing happening on? Like a read a thread or whatever, and they're like, so about once a month, somebody's parent will call me and scream at me, and I'm like, I'm sorry, what, yeah, yeah, yeah, So we're you know, I hire people because I'm a hiring manager and they applied and they were woefully underqualified or or didn't have experience or whatever it was, even though some of those experience and education required, like you guys are out of your day mind in corporate

America. But if you can find the people whatever, I don't know that you're getting the best in the brightest but that would be the extent of my analysis. But imagine you just went through and hired somebody, you know, which is basically a bunch of twenty something's mid twenties, maybe even late twenties, somebody didn't get the gig, their mother calls screaming at you. That's where we are now, and that's a version of kick the door down.

That is dooming you. Because now if I'm not hiring manager, I'm telling all the other hiring managers over golf, hey, wait to hear what this lunatics mom did. Think about that and understand why this is horrible advice, and we'll be back. I'll say this in the in the same way where we all have to get into a big debate. Right, Elon Musk bought Twitter, so I'm gonna spend the next six months of my life defining everything

that I do through the lens of hating him. And Twitter's done right, and it's like, all right, you made your prediction, let's watch it play out. And then well it wasn't. But I don't think it's just a Twitter problem. I have to admit I have. I had not spend any significant amount of time on Facebook and quite some time. And it's because here's what Facebook is still good for. It is like it's like an old

phone. Chances are you have connections to people that you may not have connections to anywhere else, and you can still accomplish that communication on Facebook just due to the longevity of it, but as a source of news and information every other damn thing that's on there, And people go, well, this is the algorithm. I we're beyond that, because the algorithm may be the algorithm.

But when you incorporate AI, which I don't know if you've seen the chat GTP version for promotional videos, the tutor the kid who was getting tutored. Now, whether this stuff works as clearly as it works in the videos is only a matter of time. It's almost indiscernible. I'll tell you what was wild is the real time translation. I mean that's like the whole translation apps are in even the best ones are incredibly not good in a lot of

circumstances. As somebody who has been working on developing another language. Now for some you know, some time, it's not a fast process. For me, they say, the older you get, the harder it is. But one of the worst things, not the worst things. It is helpful. But one of the things that I struggle with is and people have learned another language will tell you about this hump is how just because something says that it translates to the other thing doesn't mean that it does. And that's before you

get into the call the cultural nuances. Because I don't even know how to how to explain this. It'll start to dawn on you and any of you who are bilingual, you know, And I again, I'm just I'm I'm not very good, but I'm at the point where I'm recognizing this and you don't recognize it. I think a lot of people look at the Spanish language and when it translates stuff, the words don't seem to be in the right order, like ross if you have if you're sick and your mom made you

soup, what kind of soup would it be? Not chicken noodle soup? Chicken noodle soup, all right? Or chicken you know, you get some sort of chicken soup, chicken broth whatever like that. Okay, So the order in which we put those words chicken soup, you wouldn't say that in Spanish, very simple. You'd say soap with the poiloil, which is, by the way, a word. I still butcher because the two l's kill

me. But you know, and so when you direct translate it, yeah, not only do you have the order wrong, but it's not wrong because that's just how it works in a different language. But there's also so the

nuances there. I messed up. I messed up one time in front of a bartender at a beach bar in in uh In, Costa Rica when I was This was years ago, I was staying at this resort and and I thought I was so smart learning the name of h there's two big screwups of learning the name of a raccoon, which it's just because it's like, it's

not you know, I'm just learning very simple words. And I remembered the name from like the Rosetta Stone and like ah, and I in my head I knew what it was, but I said a slightly different word, which meant something god awful. And I got to tell you, it's like that, you know, it's like the record skip scene in a movie. Man, Like everything just crashed to a halt. And I point this out because the real time translation that they were doing in that debt was amazing. And

it's really hard. Anyone who's traveled has traveled with like, whether it's Google Translator or others, you realize that stuff ain't full of proof, and it requires you to critically think about what it is the person's intending to say to you. The the demo that I saw for Spanish and then the one I saw for Italian, where the two that I saw they were really good, and you get a couple of people with earpieces in they could have a relatively

normal conversation without all the big gaps. That's what is going to be social media in a lot of cases, and I think Facebook is the first victim of that. I was so creeped out scrolling that timeline and I realized that you know a lot of people that I you know on there have either had their accounts compromised or been duped, but it doesn't matter. Every other damn

thing. There was engagement farming, but one hundred percent emotionally targeted and emotionally targeted at elderly people, which then in many cases if it's not just about the engagement and monetizing it, but also it's the part where they can later scam you because you'll take a friend request and it's the stuff's absurd, but also it bypasses people's normal filter because they don't understand how they're being taken advantage of or potentially taken advantage of. And you know, a lot of it's

just kids who look a little sick and they're like, you know, Billy's got cancer. He could really use some some likes or some whatever it is, or little numbers tests, you know, spend it. Click this clock

and it will tell you how many years you have to do whatever. And then as soon as you click it, in the same way that you're launching an ex file program, it allows the scammers to either financially abuse you get just get further engagement, or manipulate then what you're feeding people, because what happens is when you click that, you also are reposting it. Even though you're not hitting the repost, it's doing that and the images are disturbing.

I have a question. I'm gonna ross. I'm gonna send you an image I saw yesterday that's going to ross How How how do people look at that? And and I understand why. That's a kid on the brink of death but also really excited for her birthday. She's got a cake. So it's a it's a little kid in a bathing suit floating in the ocean. Fawn in the ocean, faces slightly out of the water like an oxygen mask attached to a cake and yes, today's my birthday. Please, Like, so,

what is the oxygen mask is going to the cake? It's obviously it's AI, But I mean maybe you're like an older like a super old boomer, and you're scrolling through and you're like, oh my god, there's this sick child. Oh horrible, right, Yeah, their parents brought into the beach because she's obviously dying. She hooks up to the oxygen mask and she just wants to celebrate her day on the beach and oh my god, I'm going to click through this and and if you interact with that, and and

that's everywhere. Now Twitter's got its own thing. Apparently there's a lot of stuff in people's bio you should check out, but mostly it's boobs because that's all you hear about now is a you know, Twitter is nothing, her ex is nothing but ads. Now Dylon Musk is ruined it. Well, the same thing. Yesterday. I went on to Facebook because I've slowly weaned myself off Facebook over the years because I was like, man, I'm spending way too much time on social media. It's not healthy. So yesterday I

was actually scrolling and I'm like every other thing is an ad. It's one of these AI posts. It's a group I never joined. It's it's garbage now, it's not usable. Yeah, And I hate to say that because I, you know, I thought Facebook, for the most part, was an easy way and it was a good engagement way. Because I don't I don't just see engagement as we have to monetize it. That's management's job to probably be part of the meeting today. But I enjoy it, and I

think it breeds a health I think it breeds for a healthy show. There's stuff that I see off the air that I'm like, oh my gosh, let's uh this is this is really cool. Somebody should see it. I had so much fun with the am Do you see the Amtrak post yesterday? That was so much fun mocking then because I got to get what's our nickname for that cop who slept with all their part all the people she work with. I can't remember the affectionate name we used, but anyway, you know,

I was able to literally bleed that story in with the others. All right, So all right, so what do we got lined up here? Ross just getting everything? So we have one of the state auditor candidates and then we have Brad not for okay, all right, who was first? Dave? All Right, So here's what we're gonna do, guys, I'm

gonna we're gonna do weather. When he hit a break, we'll come back, we'll chat with one of the state auditor candidates, and then we'll have a congressional discussion with Brad not although he's that things have changed in that district, but we'll chat with him again. Those will be coming up here in just a few minutes. But first your weather with is it mister stagic? Today? Back in our sir? Back at it? Hey, how you doing? What were you doing yesterday? Huh? It was a long trip

to Oxford. My niece graduated Old Miss and it was kind of basically, you're in North Carolina and not North Carolina, wait in England watching Pelosi debate the guy from Mumford and sons. No, I was not, so it was just out is just kind of like, you know what, I just don't want to do it. Honestly, I was just five and a half each way, and you're there for a day and you come back the day after and so yeah, there's a long trip, but how are you,

hey, relative I might hear this. I hated coming to your thing anyway. I don't know. It's good man. Let's uh, you know, let's keep things rolling in a positive weather environment. Maybe a little more golf the weather people appreciate. So yeah, the best day is probably not election day, run off election day, so people got to go to the polls today when they're wet, that kind of stuff. Yeah, a little wet

Fayetteville to Hickory right now. Showers are already lined up heading north, so here shortly tryad triangle, gonna get this batch of showers, a little bit more spotty after that comes through, and then more into the afternoon, so you know, you get this probably more persistent batch here, some heavier showers that comes through this morning, and then more widely scattered this afternoon. Certainly not going to be raining every hour of the day, a lot of clouds

around, limited sunshine. High's close to seventy. Some showers and thunder showers tonight Tomorrow will do it in the afternoon, mainly a chance of showers in the morning, but not like we're going to see this morning. And then Thursday slight chance of showers. Thursday Friday actually pretty decent as we'll get back close to eighty on either side of eighty, depending where you are, so

upper seventies to low eighties. And a quick shot at the weekend, mild to getting warmer, and we're probably back to some showers, thunder showers, and again emphasizing, I'm probably going to see more biased toward the afternoon, so it really sounds like summertime. They were almost there as we head toured the middle of the month. Rain chances each day here except for Friday Thursday, small chance, the best chances surrounding that not only today and tomorrow,

but also into the weekend. Okay, all right, very good, thank you sir, and we'll talk in an hour. There you go. Race staging, all right, we'll talk to Dave and Brad coming up in the next few minutes, but first to break KCO Day Radio program KCO Day Radio program. All right, we're gonna be chatting with progressional candidate Brad Natt. Although his runoff race obviously there have been some changes since we last spoke, but you know, still matters, and also statewide big runoff for the auditor

and Lieutenant governor. Let's we'll get into those calls now and We'll start with one of the auditor candidates day. Is it Bullock or Bullock? I'm sure I always butcher it. Which one is it? Sir? Good morning, Casey, It's Dave Bullick Bullock. All right, and let me just let me just give a little background, because I no offense, sir. It's not auditor is not the sexy one unless want to use driving a car on top of other cars, which, by the way, have you ever done

that? You're a monster truck the car while possibly being inebriated. Or two things. One, it's not sexy, so I'm obviously qualified for the job. And number two, I have never popped my car up on top of another car and still to this day can't figure out how that one happens. Well, you don't do it with your car, you do it with this eight cars. So yeah, and let's not forget what the audits in the

backseat. Yeah yeah, yeah. Well, by the way, you scare me, sir, because the first thing I ever saw was you auditing somebody's refrigerator. I guess maybe that was your own, and that's like looking at my search results, So stay away. But let's I want to get into the auditor thing real quick with you. Yeah, you, Uh, there is definitively different backgrounds. Uh, you're up against the individual who did get more votes than you the first time around, But we shall have a runof

because they didn't meet the threshold. Uh they currently I don't know. Do they still work for one of the representatives. Is it Psyke's office or he was working for Yeah, my plan of works for the General Assembly General Assembly? Okay, and you, I, this is what an interesting time for you. You're on the UNC Board of Trustees, aren't you. I am, I have been to the last almost five years now. Case okay, But at the end of the day, yeah, and I'm sure I'll let

you go right into it and tell us. But at the end of the day, I see people trying to break down big differences, and I think there's a lot of real shared experience and ideas. So maybe this isn't the nastiest of race. But I want you to draws that definitive line there why you think you're the guy, So please fire Wasser. Yeah, I appreciate it, and you're right, this hasn't been a nasty race. My opponent and I have very similar values, very similar commitments. To doing what's right

for the tax payer. The difference, I believe is my experience. I've raised a family, I've got two kids that are off the family pay roll. I've signed the phone of a paycheck as well as the back of a paycheck. I do have a master's degree in business administration. I've started a business, run it, sold it. So I have a lot of real world private sector experience that I would bring to the State Auditor's office and in my role at Chapel Hill, which is kind of odd, right for conservative

to be at Tripol Hill. No, I think I was so good. I think it's so good right now we need more of it and you need to make that guy the chancellor for good. Anyway, I'm sorry, Well that question and a lot of that, A lot of what Chancellor Roberts was able to do on April thirtieth by matching down, as most of your listeners are aware of, the Palestinian flag and putting back up that American flag. You know, we spent the last four and a half years working to bring

balance at the university. We started with budget reform where we uncovered and fixed one hundred million dollar structural death so that by the way the former elected state auditor never found in her audits, but we did and fixed it at the board level. I was one that stood up. Yeah, I was one that stood up and said, note to Nicole Hannah Jones in the sixteen nineteen project, because I don't believe that a New York Times newspaper reporter should at

any time have any say in what our nation's sistory is. You got called a clan member for that two sir, and he didn't take the bait that I could find, right, I didn't because that's you know, I stood up for what I believe was was the right thing to do for North Carolinians.

And you know, just just yesterday at a thirty in the morning, I still lead the university's Budget, Finance and Infrastructure Committee, and we announced that we're redirecting two point three million dollars in readily identifiable DEI funds to public safety. Also, because you know, Casey, that's the right thing to do. DEI is a divisive construct that is meant to instill a cultural ideology

that people may may not may not profess to. But if you don't follow along with the DEI rhetoric, you're somehow considered an outsider and not worthy, and that's just not what the United States and North Carolina is about. So I'm very comfortable standing up against the well, Dan, I'm sorry, I'm gonna hit. I've got about thirty seconds, so just real succinctly, please, sir well, I appreciate it. Go vote today. Look, North

Carolina's the greatest state and the greatest country on the planet. Exercise your right to vote. I think I'm a good candidate, the right candidate, Dave Bullock for State Auditor. And by the way, Casey, Happy barbecue day, Phil. This hour is going to be a busy, busy, busy one. It is a runoff day here in North Carolina. And while you know, there are state wide races. So if you're listening to me and you can vote in North Carolina, you have a responsibility or at least an

opportunity however you want to see it. I don't care, but it will. I say this a lot when we have those off your elections, so they can scam city council positioning in many of our cities. But it if you look at early voting and expect to turn out for something like this, your vote will never go further, which is unlike your grocery dollar right now. So today's the day you could be the pain in the ass that makes

somebody lose by one. Wouldn't that be a good feel? Or your guy win by one, depending on your general outlook on stuff, So get out there and do it. A couple of state offices. We did have this congressional runoff with brad Not and miss Daughtry, and she has now left the race, thrown her sort behind, thrown her support behind brad Not and Bradnat joins us. Now, thanks for hanging on, sir, busy morning, how you doing. Hey, good to be with you. Thank you so

much. Let me let me get this out of the way. So like because immediately when something like that happens, especially and I'll say it like this, you guys have had an interesting run a race, especially when listening to some of the advertising, which is literally caused people write me about the ads

like why is this thing based on the Trump endorsement? So to see it all imediately like resolved in a few days after we last chatted, you know, people are like, ah, you know that's like when the you know, they sent the consigli area to go talk to that record producer like you, You and somebody got her in a room and you know stuff, and people assigned a lot of stuff and I don't know, maybe you gotta I don't know, maybe you got a book of something and you're threatening to release

it. But I'll give you an opportunity because people love conspiracies. How did that all play out? Yeah, there's no conspiracy. There's nothing juicy about it, Casey. The politics is all about timing. And there were two different campaigns in this runoff, very distinct. My opponent was self funded and we were majority. We had to raise We put in some money our own, but we had to raise most of our money. And so when we got into the runoff, their strategy was very clear and it was make sure

we don't get off the grounds. So they just barraged us with all kinds of negative ads. They had a pack, they had their campaign. There were two arms that were coming at us, and you were right, and those ads were everywhere. They saturated every media, hy every arm they could, and some of those ads were I would say deceiving less than fully honest. We've already discussed that on previous shows, but unfortunately for them, we

were able to get off the ground and our campaign was very methodical. We were very focused with our message. We didn't really respond to all of the negative attacks because we couldn't do that. There were just too many of them. But our message was very persistent and it resonated, and slowly but surely, we got local law enforcement support, We got local representatives who endorsed us, We got a great boost from grassroots movements and organizations around the district.

We were very aggressive and going to meet with people face to face, whether it's county gas groups or civics groups, rhetory clubs, all the above. And then we started to get some of the higher profile folks, you know, Dan Bishop, Dan Forrest, Ted budd and others got on our on our train, and then when President Trump got on, it was just,

you know, his his endorsement was like rocket fuel. And the last month of this runoff, our message just caught in a really big way, and my opponent had sort of fired everything she could and despite that effort, our campaign caught and our momentum surged, and that's what prompted her to get out

of the race. It was it was an unexpected phone call, but you know, we had felt that movement on the ground and had felt the responses from people, and our events were better attended and so on and so forth, So very unexpected. We're very surprised, but we're grateful at the same time. You know, here's the I hate when primary races have become like

that pressor as shamed to pick on you guys. But you know, some politician who just came out had like thirty mistresses and then his wife standing there at the presser with him, and it's just like, it feels so awkward. So when we hear all of those ads and then like two days later, you're like, I endorsed this person and that we were all just hateful towards each other. Like don't you think that adds to a just a little

bit of the like the fakery in politics as people perceive it. I think people have a cynical view about that stuff, and I don't know that it's unfortunate. There is a lot of cynicism around political races and politicians and so forth. And you know, there's a very big difference between a documented, factual negative ad and a sort of anecdotal high problele know, hyperbole and negative

ads and yeah, but you're asking people to parse that. I'm sorry, just but you're asking people to parse it who have enough going on in their day that they can't always hate that assertion. So if it sounds negative and they're like, why are two Goop people screaming at each other? I think it puts people all it does. It does. There's no there's no other way around it. And you know, like I said, we were we

were caught between a rock and the hard places. We had so many negative ads, whether it was male, radio, TV, digital, et cetera, and uh, you know, we couldn't really respond to all of it. And we generated a lot of a lot of positive ads, a lot of you know, substance in our in our in our outreach and uh the good news is and our polling to your point, Casey, a lot of those negative ads ended up blowing back on my opponent, her, her, the the the utility of those ads. It failed. Uh, it was

just so voluminous that people kind of start to distrust. And you know, we we did our own share of negative ads. We hit we hit her for her donations and so forth, just kind of calling into to question her credibility. But in a perfect world, we could be all positive all the time, and that's unfortunately not the world that we're in right now. And

I don't know, I don't know the expected spend. How do you deal with it as as a person who if you who has basically been told not maybe you personally, but when you read the stories that this was it, you're now the congressman and it's only a matter of waiting. How do you how do you approach that? Because you have an opponent was if Frank Pierce is his name is? He owns a couple of landscape companies. He's run

I think for city council, actually the district next to me. Well, let me let me, let me, let me let me peel that back. We are not taking that posture at all right now. Kelly Daughtry is

still on the ballot. We are taking nothing for granted. We took a poll a short while ago, Casey, and we saw that there was or we saw a pole rather that that up to forty five percent of the folks in the district, just to you know, within two weeks did not realize that Kelly Daughtry had gotten out of the race, so you get outside the Johnson and Wait County media markets and you know a lot of people still assume she's in and her name is still on the ballot. So we are got

to finish this race strong. If you are a supporter, if you're a voter in the thirteenth district, please get out and vote. There are two other very important races on the ballot. To please get out and vote, even though the weather's bad and you may have other stuff to do, get in line, go vote. If we are able to finish finish this race as we hope to and come out to the victor, we're going to have the same posture. We want to get out and meet with as many people

as we can Democrat, Independent, Republican. And you know our campaign is a very it's a very simple message about making government work for all people. And right now, no one feels that. No one feels that that's happening, and regardless of affiliation or leaning in this district, we want to get

out and meet you face to face. I know you had his endorsements, so you might have a little bias here, but I really just last question put on your prosecutor had how far are you following the storm of this this trial in New York. I'm not a lawyers or you're a lawyer. You're a prosecutor. For God's sakes. I understand the politics to it, but procedurally, I've watched a law a lot of law and order, which I'm sure you love to hear. I don't understand. I don't understand stuff that

is happening in there, that happens outside of Judge Judy's courtroom. It's fascinating to me. So even if the if the fix is in, this has to be reversible for a thousand reasons. Yeah, you know, it's one of the high honors of my career was being able to go before a jury and say I represent the United States. And uh I was always blessed to have worked before solid judges who protected the courtroom and protected cases that were brought

against people. And what we're seeing in New York is really achieving a lot of distrust in the judicial system. That's a grave, grave problem. And even folks like you know uh n N commentators was taught where they were talking over the weekend casey they said, but for this man's last name of Trump, this case would never have been brought Ye said that, Yeah, that's crazy. That's exactly right. And that's that's a that is a grave disservice

to the country and to what should be an apolitical system. And it's without any questions when you have to rely on someone like mister Cohen to make the case for you, who has been essentially imprisoned for his dishonesty and his dishonest

conduct before Congress, before dirs, before other courts, et cetera. This is just this is just unbelievable, the contortions that are going through this legal system, merging state crimes and federal crimes and trying to thread needle after after Neil just to get Donald Trump. It's a tremendous disservice to the country, to the people of New York and and just the effects of this will be feeling for a long long time unfortunately. All right, Well, you know

what, don't exaggerate. Remember he only recorded one client secretly once ever, and it was trying, and he only did it to help him. So everything's fine, everything's thank you, Dory. All right, So and then you answer my last question earlier. If your opponent's out, why show up to the polls, and the answer is because she's still on the ballot, and just you know people should know that is they head out. Brad Not

thirteen Congressional District. Appreciate your time this morning. Thank you so much. Good to be with you. Absolutely all right, there you go. So yeah, we're just uh, well, if I can find the right thing to put on hold, there we go. All right, well let me we got oh, we got all right, so we got Jack Clark, who is the other state auditor runoff guy. We'll be chatting with Jack after

the bottom of the hour. First, Mark Walker, who's not technically running for anything but kind of because he is actually part of the Trump campaign. Now and we haven't chatted in a while, sir, are you too good for us? What's going on? Are you just really busy? I really am for you now with this new ferish So it's just no, no, no, no, of course not. He's eating caviar. He's eating caviar. Run video right now. He's eating caviars. So no, hardly.

Now, we've been busy traveling. Yeah, I guess you know, as the faith outreach director for the RNC, I guess Trump twenty twenty four but yeah, trying to organize a lot of our faith out groups, ministries and nonprofits, etc. So trying to get him all pull in the same direction and realize the level or the depth of evil that we're battling right now. And I think once people see that, I think it motivates them to get engaged. Yeah, all right, So your your focus is on the faith

side of things. I think since Trump said what was it two Corinthians? There has you know, people have leaned into that part of his personality.

I don't. I don't do I think Trump is a holy roller. No, but talk to me, even with all the stuff that people may criticize from a character standpoint, which is easy to do under a microscope, what faith really and how that instructs Trump, even if it's through his people around him, like you, how does that play in Well, Well, let's I was talking with him the other day and when we were talking about this position and in the future and working with him on some different and some different

arenas. But if what you see is what you get, he's the same person in a private conversation where we were meeting with him in the oval office or on the phone, and you know, he's a New York real estate playboy tycoon that takes a different approach. Yet at the same time, I think people understand what's at stake and why you need a warrior in the mindset. If you want to bowl this down, it comes down very simple.

You have one administration that simply is about undermining your faith and family, and you have one administration, the Trump administration, would be to protect your faith and your family. And some of these pastors and ministers that say, you

know what, we're above this, we don't get involved. But at the same time they'll say, yeah, we're battling evil, And I will ask the question, if you're not on the front lines of these faith groups, and if you're willing to agree that we're battling evil, who the heck do you expect to fight this battle? And that's what we're trying to communicate across. Yes, Trump can be brash, is language, We get all that,

But right now you have a binary choice. You've got somebody that is completely destroying our country or somebody that will go out to protect and defend our country. I think that I think a lot of people's dividing line is all right, are they the same faith as me, or do they they practice in the same way or do they let me? And I feel it's really bad that we're down to the Hey, do they actually let me practice my

faith? But hey, that's where we are. And ironically that was kind of the whole founding of the country, one of the big reasons there. So let's talk about how does how does he was in like nine different places, not even giving speeches the other day, like bopping from Wildwood to Florida to New York to all the us of it. A president running for office? Is their schedule sucks? Anyway? Is even more so, how's that impacted? Because I saw up in New Jersey it doesn't look like it's putting

a stop in it in any way, shape or form. Our interior analytics show that's actually helping us because the people see the intentionality of it. You saw the turnout in Wildwood here over the weekend. When you look at President Trump, he is the working class president. There's a loyalty in a bond. There's nothing that the press, media or in this case, the defense

or the prosecution. I should say that, however they come after him, there's nothing that they're going to do that breaks that bomb between President Trump and the working class, which is about forty five percent the Republican base. So all all he needs to do is keep moving this needle forward a little bit

with some people out there in the middle. And I think what you've seen in the swing states, my focus is primarily said and swinging states, but you're seeing this needle starting to move with people realizing what's at stake in November, and I think that President Trump, I'll tell you this, I think he's gonna win by North Carolina twice as much as what he wanted by last time. I think four plus points, and I think that's going to help

some of the Council of State members as well. Is that why he's not coming down and doing the GOP convention as he's done in the two previous presidential cycles. Some people are wondering if he feels a little too sure of the state. I got about a minute go ahead. No, not at all, but we've got to focus on other places Nevada, Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan as well. So that's why you're seeing him more

and more, and I think you'll see him back. But he's been very good to us at the convention, coming to the last two times that we've had it here, I guess specifically even in Greensboro. But you'll see him back. But we've got to make sure that we're keeping him in the right places with his team, that he's out there to get this word, just like he was in New Jersey, a place where he lost by fourteen four years ago. But it's now all the way down to only a six point

lead for Biden. We're seeing this kind of progress in many different places. Yeah, the Nevada numbers are crazy from last time around. All Right, Mark, I know you're busy, busy, busy. We'd love to hear tales from the road man, So you know, try to find the time and we'll make it work because there's a whole bunch we could talk about for sure. Okay, look forward to it, Casey, take care of right. Yeah, there you go, Mark Walker, from a congressman candidate and

now a guy in charge of seven states for the Trump campaign. All Right, more candidates. We've got hol Weatherman, We've got Clark, we got all sorts of folks coming up. Cacoday Radio program on the GOP Primary. I never know what we're gonna get, I should say runoff. I never know what we're going to get of the I guess five candidates because we got two more holding, we will have spoke with four of them. So that's kind of amazing. Who we meant, Oh, Jim O'Neill, that's who

we're missing. So anyway, let's go ahead and dive into this. And Jack Clark is the other side of that auditor's ticket. We talked to his opponent earlier, and I don't know, did you hear the interview? Mister Clark? How you doing this morning? Good? How are you? Can you hear me? Yeah? Yeah, did you hear my interview with your opponent earlier? Be good if you did, because then I did not hear it, but I got several texts thing he was on and from you call

in Here's what I like about your race? Yeah? Yeah, well here's what I like about your guys' race. And maybe it's just because it's a respite. I haven't heard you guys be horrible to each other, so I don't know that makes me feel okay. But also I think that there are differences your background, his background, different things that you hope to accomplish. So let's start with those differences. Why are you the better auditor pick for GOP voters. So my career is in auditing. I have a CPA,

and I spent years in the private sector as an auditor. I can't overstate how important it is to have that training and background to run the audit department. You know, It's it's one thing to lead a bunch of lawyers to do law stuff, but it's an entirely thing, an entirely different thing, to lead a bunch of auditors to perform audits. So I think that that's really what I've been anchoring my my campaign on. And the second is that

I'm not campaigning on who I'm going to go after. We saw a DA in New York campaign on who they're going after, and we all know how that's turning out. I'm trying to I would rather look, I do my entire campaign, you know, my entire career. I'm trying to do the right thing. I don't care if things are politically expedient for me. I'm going to do what's right. You know, I was a Republican in Washington,

d C. I was in college Republicans at Duke universe. The You know, I've been a republic in my whole life and it wasn't to my benefit at all in these heavily democratic areas. So you can trust me as auditor. Well, and let me ask you this, because I just got this email, and I suppose this is the place we should start. Other than monster trucking things with your state vehicle? What does the auditor do? All? Right? By the way, you've never done that, right,

You never got hammered and drove up on somebody's car, have you? Okay? Good, that's a very low ude. Don't make many campaigns. Yeah, I don't make many campaign promises. One is to keep all four wheel off on the ground. That is one campaign promise. Well, hey, no, if it's your own time vehicle, right, you're off roading. That's that's between you and God. But what does the state auditor do? Man? A state auditor goes into anywhere that receives taxpayer money and make sure

that money is being used as intended. So one thing the auditor doesn't do is decide on policy or allocate the money. But once the money is allocated and the make sure those policies are being followed. Someone just has to come in and check when the General Assembly or the local governments allocate money to different areas, so someone has to check to make sure it's actually going there. And that's really the key role of the author. You you obviously your background,

not obviously your opponent's background. Is you know, you guys are all intertwined in the in the sausage factory as far as the sausage getting made. I'm not going to use the swamp thing, although that exists to some extent. But the question, I think some people have one, whether it's him with his board appointment or your work for the General Assembly. How are you How are you still able to provide oversight when that oversights on people that your

colleagues and possibly friends. So explain how that that disconnects so that the process can work. How you achieve that? So the General Assembly is the one allocating the money and the auditor is making sure that money is being used correctly. I'm sorry, and I'm sorry. Let me I just sorry. I want to clarify the question. I'm not implying that you're auditing the General Assembly, but generally the General Assembly a lot of times gives money to people they

like because it's the prerogative of whoever's in powers. So the people on the receiving end are also going to be folks that you probably have a relationship with, correct a lot of them. Yeah, okay, all right, So I'm just want to be clear for the people. I know you understood the question, but go ahead. I'm sorry to interrupt. Yeah. Yeah, So you know, my opponents donated to a lot of them. I just started in politics last year. Anyone who's supporting me and the General Assembly is

doing that because they know my background. They like me, we get along. You know, someone who has donated to the very top, who's gotten appointments by them, I think that's going to be a little more influential than someone who just kind of went in to see how process work, how the

sausage was made. I like how you put it. And you know, I've been I could have been saying things that people wanted to hear throughout my campaign that would have probably helped my poll numbers, and but I've decided against that. Everyone knows that I'm independent. I've made entirely clear to everyone that I'm going to do the right thing. I'm not going to be swayed by any powers. You know, I could have been swayed by democratic powers when

I was in democratic areas. But I've built my whole campaign, really my whole life on doing the right thing, being independent, And just because I get along with people doesn't mean I'm just going to do what they say. They can't tell me how to auten, you know. I'm I'll maybe make suggestions on things, but they're they're the ones making the policies and the law. So we each have our roles to play, and and I'm gonna play mine. Okay, Jack Clark with us, I like that. I've been

around. I could have gone the other way. I would hope, sir, that it was not as one or two life choices that kept you from standing on the campus or university at CAFIFA yelling at Jewish people. So but that's wild times, man. I love the part too where he's on the UNC board. You're a duke grad, so we can have that old fight. So Jack Clark, you'll see him on the other side of the auditor's race. Get out and vote people. Jack appreciate the time this morning.

Okay, thank you so much. Yeap, All right, there you go and like I said, we got we got one more queued up. That's how Weatherman. He's the one of the two along with Jim O'Neil runoff candidates for lieutenant governor. We'll chat with Hal here in the last segment, so ho'll hang on. I don't want to just give you a couple of minutes. And uh, right now we'll get Ray stage. I can chat with him, who's not running for anything. No, just do you guys run

for chief meter cologists? Do you guys have to like in uh black panther. I'm not sure you don't really run for it. Kind of it's just a title that's given to you. Like here here in radio, we kind of do what we want. So I became senior Meteorologists just by you know, longevity and years served that I could you just add titles like like a like a dictator and yes, South America exactly how it goes with no pay increase of course. You know, remember we are at radio, those guys

all the money. You just have six stars on all right? All right, us in looking at all right right now, a little wet weather actually got a band of rain and showers just northeast now of Hickory and Charlotte getting into us, other parts of the Triad and Fayetteville Sandford start to see that rain come in, so dispatch all overspread the areas we go through this morning. That'll break, but more isolated shower showers today. Really not expecting much

in the way of sunshine. If you get sun and maybe you'll get a little warmer than seventy, but most of us mid upper sixties to near seventy degrees. The shower stutter showers will continue tonight and tomorrow too. We'll get

more rain. There'll be some fog in the morning right around seventy degrees, and then Thursday probably gonna be the big day of the week, lots of sun mid upper seventies before the shower stutter showers return again Friday, and we'll do some work of the weekend forecast might just be afternoon stuff, case, which we would expect this time of year, will be warmer, close to eighty degrees, but either way, it looks like Thursday is gonna be the

only day over the X four or five we don't mention rain. So as a chief meteorologist Senior chief meteorologist six stars, you're ross i heard take Thursday off. Is that what he said? Yeah? So all right, good advice, siate it right. All right, there you go, and we're

gonna chat with Jeff Ballinger and then Hal Weatherman. He is today one of the two hopefuls for GOP's nomination for well for lieutenant governor, and I think he knows what lieutenant governor does because he worked for one for a very long time. So we'll chat with him next. Hang on, I go to Jeff Bellinger from Bloomberg with the professional sounding way, how are you doing a s morning, sir, I'm doing well. Nice to hear you in studio quality as well. Look, yes see yeah we like that. Yes,

last month's jump and wholesale level inflation was bigger than expected. That report just out at eight thirty this morning. The headline Producer Price Index rose half a percent in April that topped all estimates. The year over year increase was two point two percent that was in line with forecasts, and the core PPI,

which strips out energy and food costs, was up four tens percent. And economist tells Bloomberg her take is that disinflation has stalled stock market futures, though they had a knee jerk reaction sharply lower, but they're just a little bit lower now. S and P futures down just two points. Nasdaq futures are down thirty three, the Dow futures are down five. And that report first

came out, the Dow futures were down more than one hundred points. The soft housing market and weak demand for big ticket appliances a really bad combination for Home Depot. The home improvement chain has reported negative sales now for six consecutive quarters. Small business owners were more upbeat last month. The National Federation of Independent Business reports its Optimism index rose for the first time this year, after

dropping in March to the lowest level since twenty twelve. The index, though is still well below its long term average. Walmart's cutting hundreds of corporate jobs and notifying most remote workers they'll have to work from the office most of the time. The giant retailer will also move workers from smaller offices in Dallas, Atlanta, and Toronto to bigger facilities, including its Bentonville, Arkansas headquarters.

About one thousand employees of the job search website indeed, will ironically need the services of a job search site indeed planning a round of layoffs in response to a cooling labor market. A lot of Tesla employees who were laid off a couple of weeks ago we'll be rejoining the electric car company, sources tell Bloomberg. Tesla is rehiring about five hundred members of its supercharger team. The workers were fired by Elon Musk late last month. Kraft Heines is reportedly looking to

get out of the packaged meats business. The Wall Street Journal says the food giant has put Oscar Meyer up for sale. And Casey, krispy Kreme is teamed up with the country music icon Dolly Parton. The Dolly Southern Sweets donut collection is in krispy Kreme stores now for a limited time only. Casey, I like how krispy Kreme thinks they need to do something to make me come in and eat all their donuts. It's like, you guys should just be

open. That's fine, put your little hot donuts sign on. We're good, but all right cool if you like Dolly and krispy Kreme. There you go, Thanks, Jeff, Okay, have a good day, all right, There you go, Jeff Ellinger, Bloomberg News like I love me some Dolly, but yeah, just tell me the donuts are hot and you know I'm there. All right, let's chat with one of the two candidates you'll

see today as lieutenant governor runof Hal Weatherman. Full disclosure, Hallie, you and I have known each other a long time because you worked with Dan Forrest. Obviously, as things we're getting rolling here, and I believe you and I attended a Thanksgiving together at Dan's house, not during an election year, but I just want people to know that. All right, full disclosure. There we go. Where are you better than Jim O'Neil, which, by the way, I don't have beef with either of you, So make the

case, sir, Thank you well. I'm a limited government, constitutional Christian conservative running for lieutenant governor. My wife and I sat out on this journey about sixteen months ago, and we were the only candidate in the original eleven man field that went to all one hundred counties. We went to thirty five counties five times or more. We went to ten counties ten times or more.

And I think that's important because I think if you governor or lieutenant governor to lead a state, I think you need to intimately know the state, its strength and its weaknesses that we know on the job training for me if I'm elected lieutenant governor. I had the honor of privilege, as you pointed out, to serve as chief of staff to a previous Lieutenant Governor, Dan Forrest. And again that job afforded me the ability to travel the state as

well and learn the state. So you know, we put in a good fight. We've gone through. We were victorious on primary election night. We were the top vote getter. We won sixty two of the one hundred counties, garnered one hundred and eighty one thousand votes. But the second place senator did challenge us to a runoff, despite US defeating him by thirty four thousand votes and defeating him in eighty of the one hundred counties. But that runoff is today, and I asked people to get out and vote, and I

asked for their support. What was your least favorite county? How, No, there is no such thing of Oliver County. You know you know what? Then I'm smart enough not to answer that casey, But I will say this, I do spend the vast majority of my time. I'm eighty five of our one hundred counties or rural and so where I spend the vast majority of my time is actually not in Charlotte or you know, Raleigh. It actually is in the rural areas of this state. And it's that's important.

I mean many counties that I go to, especially in the far West and or the far East, you know, for Cumin's pass Quotank or Graham Swain, you know, they'll say things like I've never seen a lieutenant governor candidate here, And We've gone to those counties multiple times to show them the love and the attention that they deserve. And you know, and I think that's important because I think if you want to lead a state again, you need to know it. But also you need to show your face there. You

need to know. And that's the kind of lieutenant governor I want to be. I want to be accessable to people. And I've said before that if I do have the honor and the privilege to win, I'm not going to govern. If you will from Raleigh, Yes, I'll preside over the State Senate, so I'll be in Raleigh. I'll have an office in Raleigh, but you know, I'm going to govern from the road I'm going to continue what we have done and travel the state so that people can know their lieutenant

governor, know them personally and let me know what's on their minds. I've learned as I've gotten older in my life, and I were believers, but I have learned as I've gotten older. But it is more important as a candidate. It is more important not what comes out of my mouth. It's more important that I had eyes to see and ears to hear what people are saying to me as I traveled to state and then to try to solve the problems. And so, like I said, we tried to do something different

in this campaign. We wanted in a day and age of thirty second attack ads, we wanted to connect one on one with as many people as we could. This is an interesting casey. We were the top fundraiser in our eleven man field. We were the top We raised more money than anyone else. Yet despite that, and on perpose, we did not put one diamond TV, one diamond radio or one dime and directly we just traveled the state

and that with people one on one. I mean, I I don't I don't want to tell you you're wrong, but I feel that a radio investment would be a really good idea, maybe a big fat one here, so no, but no doubt that we will do predicial advertising moving forward.