Thursday-2-22-2024

Ross. You see a picture of that crazy mayre in Illinois. I couldn't really, I didn't remember if one was in the story, Tiffany Hainard. Who is this? This this mayor in a suburb of Illinois. Now the attorney General's getting involved after all of the insanity surrounding this woman spilled forward, like lavish trips, closing down businesses that didn't donate to her, and essentially looting the treasury. That's the accusation, to the extent that the police cruisers

for the city are on the cusp of being repoed. Which how does that work? How does like if if you're one of those guys out there that that's what you do for a living, you drive a tow truck, you do represent Like do you you just roll into the police station parking lot and start hooking up. I got a lot of questions about that. Anyway, I was at a picture of her this morning and somebody goes this a little Wayne in a wig and I can't unsee it, and I think that's hilarious.

So that's on the show today as well. Plus I hear we have a couple guests, so well one you know, and that's that Stephen Kent, who we talked to on Thursdays, and we talk about you know, nerd stuff and Hollywood stuff and all of that, and there's plenty of that to talk about. And that is eight o five. We do that. However, prior to that, at seven thirty five, we have Don Don

Junior. Theybody know who that is. Yes, Donald Trump Junior is going to be popping in now he's here or he's doing you know, he's down here pimping for some of their preferred endorse candidates. We'll get into the details of that, but you know, i'd be interesting to hit him with a couple of questions. Some stuff's gone on since we last spoke, So we'll do that at seven thirty five. So first half of the show general insanity,

stupidity and childish reporting and discussion as per normal. Then we'll do a couple of guests and yeah, it's gonna be a busy Thursday around here, so go ahead and buckle in for that. All right, man, where to start this morning? I think we'll start here because this, this Tiffany Haydard story is crazy, man, all right, it's this mayor see how long has she been there? She is, her interviews and just her. Oh she also hold on, I thought that here's what I was looking for.

Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, I have somebody put together a nice little list of all the stuff that they're basically accusing this woman of, all right, because it's a doozy, all right. So among the items that have made the news, she believes, she believes she is a modern

day Jesus her words, shutting down businesses that don't donate. Specifically, there's a guy who did donate to her business owner who donated to this woman every year, like thirty five hundred bucks, and then he's like, yeah, I don't like what's going on, So he didn't, and she sent the goon squad down there to shut his business down, claiming that he was illegally selling alcohol. But there haven't been any charges, and hey, there's there's

there's nothing going on there now. Who knows. Maybe he was and that was part of why he was giving her money, which she she's too dumb to understand, is it doesn't matter if he was or he wasn't, because either you shut somebody down right after they stopped giving you money on a charge that's not true, or it is true, and my brain tells me that probably the reason he was giving you thirty five hundred dollars a year in campaign donations, uh in you know, in a little small town like that,

is so he could illegally sell alcohol. Right, So that's that doesn't that doesn't prove what you think it proves. Let's see, also she hired a child rapist as a code enforcement officer, proposed a law to cut salaries of everybody but her and the Vegas trips man. And wouldn't you know it, as accusations have moved forward and now the Illinois state is investigating, which in and of itself is no doubt a hot bed of corruption as it has always

been. They're doing it because racism generally the accusation. So that's a du That thing's just that's just picking up steam. But it was a fascinating read this morning. So there you go. A couple updates too, to some stories like the MS Society. So we talked about this. We talked about it Tuesday, Tuesday, at the end of last week. Basically you had

this ninety year old woman. I think we did it Friday. See this ninety year old woman, she has volunteered for the Multiple Scrossest Society for what sixty years she's og Man and this was due to the fact that her husband this battled with this, so that inspired her way back in the day when

like you know a lot of people. That's when even though you on the periphery, you know about some of these these uh, these these diseases that that people live with or attempt to live with, and and but once it's in your face, it radicalizes in a good way, uh people to uh to get involved in take action. And and that's what it did here. And she didn't just make a hobby out of this for a few years.

She literally spent the next sixty years of her life not drawing, not drawing a salary, not doing it for money, but because she this was her passion. And it all came crashing down, if you remember, after she noticed something and started asking questions, and specifically was asking about the pronouns uh because an email had been sent out to volunteers and others saying hey, we need to go ahead and put these in the email. And she's ninety and

she's like, she's saying, I know what pronouns were. I'm not going to play Oliver Rodio. But basically she said, I know what pronouns are, but like, I don't understand why are we putting this in the email? Because she's ninety, And yeah, she got other stuff she's worried about because she's ninety. And the MS Society, for whatever reason, decided that a wonderful pr move would be to part ways with this woman. And I have to assume that in the week or so since that decision was made,

it probably noticed, especially over in the old donations department. I thought, I suspect that probably wasn't a good thing. Simultananeously, the head of the society send an email announcing the quote planned and totally coincidental retirement. But it wasn't until yesterday that they decided to issue and I'm making air quotes here an apology, issue an apology, and I got to tell you it was awful.

It was terrible. Basically, here's how the apology went. All right, let me, in fact, let me read two parts verbatim, just because I want to be fair, and I'll let you do your own interpretation. All right, thank you, thank you for pop up over your apology. All right, here we go. The National multiple Sclerosis Society apologizes to our longtime dedicated volunteer Fran It. Recently we asked fran to step down from her role as a group leader because of statements made that we viewed as not

aligning with our recently implemented Diversity, Equity and Inclusion DEI policy. We realize, now we made a mistake. Okay, all right, and everything was fine and tell what I've just read. But then we start going in a different direction. We realize, now we made a mistake and we should have had more conversations with Fran before making this decision. What does that mean? Well, as you read through the rest of this here's what they mean.

What they mean is, rather than just canning this woman who spent sixty years donating her time, energy, probably money to this society and leading others, even in a volunteer capacity, to help reach whatever the goals are, their thing is not we shouldn't have fired her because she's ninety and she's worked here sixty years for free. Their thing was we should have forced her to understand

the pronoun policy and abide by it. So, rather than just firing her for raising questions or saying she doesn't understand or really doesn't like this is outside the scope of really what she deals with on a daily basis. Rather than that, they apologized over the fact that they didn't force her to digest and parrot their DEI policies. But again, I don't even know the woman had

an objection. I think she just had questions, it sounds like, and of course she also has practices that have served her over the course of ninety years on this planet, which, you know, the long even doing something, the harder for it is it is for you to justify in your head changing what you're doing. So that their apology really wasn't to this woman.

Their apology was to them not shoehorning this woman into their DEI policy and making her understand how awesome it is. So as you can imagine, I don't think that helped anything. I feel like maybe that just drug this further into the news for something that sadly probably kind of was on its way out,

do you know what I mean? Like, I didn't see it pop up in the news cycle again until they issued a doesn't mean people weren't talking about it, but it definitely did look like it was going to have the staying power of you know, bud light stuff for any of the rest of it. But now it's back in it with the stupidity of this statement. We apologized a friend directly and reached out to her to find a way to continue

to work together in the spirit of continuous learning. We are focused on evaluating our process and for defying our learning to ensure our team members are equipped and the best ways to implement all of our policies. So again, that's corporate speak for what I just told you. We're sorry we didn't make her abide by these, understand these, and even promote them due to her leadership position, albeit from a volunteer standpoint. That's our bad. We just gave it.

We just threw her away. But we should have done is sat her down like I guess clockwork orange and put those eye things and roll the DEI training videos. We're sorry that we didn't restrain her in a chair and force her eyes open. It's just so dumb man. The National MS Society is a nonpartisan organization committed to one bold vision, a world free of MS.

Well, if that is your one mission, right, your one bold mission, then I don't believe you, and I don't believe you, because you would Aukham's razor this or excuse me, Aukham's razor ramone whatever this thing. You would sit there and go if our one mission right, we have one mission, and that is to eradicate MS. That's good, that should be

your mission. Got it? Then you have to ask yourself a ninety year old woman not understanding your new email signature policy with pronouns versus sixty years of experience with all of your fundraisers, your various partners. I suspect she's developed relationships with people who write you checks, perhaps cultivating those. So if your one mission is this, as you state, that would be very easy to weigh on the scales of what to do what will help us accomplish that mission.

This person who has almost unequaled experience in what has been our mission or making sure that everyone abides by your email signature policy, and they decided it was not the first one. So that's why I don't believe you, So sorry. The sport of our volunteers is essential to achieving our mission and ensuring people affected by MS can live their best lives. MS does not discriminate that, you guys kind of do, so you know, there's there's that.

So yeah, it's a fall. I didn't say it was a good follow up, but it's a follow up. So there you go, all right, phone number eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four. We also have a rather interesting update on the student who was said to have been beaten beaten to death by three other students in that bathroom. It's quite the update, and there's some really upset activists. But I'm just like, hey, let's get to the bottom of it. I'll give you details coming up.

Hang on, we will. We're going to be chatting with Donald Trump Junior. And uh yeah, so I was on one or two things to uh to chat about. So going on in the news, like why did his dad violently shove that man at mar Lago. I'm sure you've seen the video. It's hard to watch now. The man in the video, he'll say that literally the president was patting him on the back, and if you

watch the video, looks like the president's patting him on the back. But I think I think it's clear to tried to murder him, but you probably do. Is probably no laws inside mar a Lago. He's it's yourself a shark pit or whatever, like your doctor evil and just grease whoever you want. So that's the latest greatest outrage. Apparently Trump Junior is he's here because he's stumping for a congression. Addison McDowell just, I would like to let

you know who's campaign people are attached to. So that's what that's about. But we'll take the opportunity to chat and if you can tell about the event, obviously we'll ask about that. But so we got that, and uh, we'll get into the Hollywood nonsense with Stephen Kent. That'll be at eight oh five, So busy back half of the show. Guest wise, all right, let me jump to this because this story picking up picking up steam,

and I want, I want to be clear here. It was one of those stories where people were trying to draw these these devisive lines, uh and and straw man everybody, when in reality, if three students decided to beat a student to death, we charge charge him everything, charge everything you can because I'll tell you what I'm getting real tired of, and that is, for whatever reason, this generation of kids, and I know I'm something like the old man, but hear me out because I know it's not it's

not all of them, but it's a lot of them have this thing where it's somehow morally acceptable for you know, nine on one fights or three on one or even two of them. I'm trying to remember all the fights that I saw a couple I was a little closer to if you catch them a drift growing up, and I just don't remember two kids having b for whatever, and then all of a sudden, it's three on one and it's just it's just a merciless beating. And yet those videos are you can't go an

hour on Twitter without stumbling across one. And I know people they get into race arguments or they get into uh, you know, other attach it to other political arguments. But here's I don't care in the sense that if that's something you want to do, and then you got no business us at the school. Did you see the assistant principle where half the school turned out, it just turned into a mob beating the assistant principle. I don't get this

stuff, And it's not to say it probably wasn't happening obviously. When I was in middle school, high school, you know, we didn't have the video apparatuses that we have now. But I just don't believe it's the same. Somebody would have to convince me that it's the same as it always was and that we're just seeing more of it, because I saw people running that

excuse and I just don't buy it. So when this story first broke and the narrative was, well, the narrative was a transgender, non binary student was beat to death in the bathroom by three bullies over being non binary. Okay, well, if that's what happened, then throw those three in jail for as much as you can get on them. And it's it's not about being I don't care if it was for having red hair or you know, a funny name, or non binary or race or jail, I don't care

what it was. The idea that students would mob together like a wild pack of criminals, man, just just pure criminals and do that and and do some of the stuff we've seen on video, I please, please by all means. But because there was that part of it, you also had the activist part where this was this was done and this was done solely for this reason, and so there's a lot more things that need to happen, and I'm just like, well, how about we just handle the criminals side of

this, if that is what happened, and we'll go from there. But I'm I'm with you in the sense that that shouldn't happen to anybody. There shouldn't no kid should be it should be so put in this position that within what is supposed to be a learning environment there there it's it's a it's an episode of OZ every day for them. That shouldn't exist. And I'm with you, and we could be we could we can join in attempting to eradicate that. Okay, but but but but then this happened yesterday a statement by

officials the medical examiner and uh is it with the state medical examiner? A local I want to be clear here is this is the preliminary autopsy by the Medical Examiner's office. Uh for I guess yes, the the state of Oklahoma. The sixteen year old student identified as next Benedict died but not did not die quote from injuries sustained in a fight in a bathroom the day before. So already I think people have a misunderstanding of the timeline because the story that

emerged was this happened. The student was rushed to the hospital and essentially lingered and died. So it was you know, there's this clear continuation, this clear line of events, or at least appeared to be a clear line of events. However, the Medical Examiner's office says that's not the case, and but or not necessarily the case. I guess is what I should say, and that is evidenced by the student in question. There's a bunch of texts

and stuff going back and forth with friends that were released. It was the day after, and they are not disclosing the specifics of what the but they think pending toxicology results and some other testing where they sent out a couple of things to be tested by I guess the FBI. But it's a pretty it's a pretty different narrative than the one that was out there by Tulsa school officials, the parents and others. Now, does it mean that this student wasn't

assaulted by a group of students? I didn't see anything to that, So by all means, do whatever you want to do to them. There are cancer kids like that are a cancer upon the school and the other kids around them, please said. The Tulse Area School has not said what initially led to the brawl. The family, though says it was over the teens non

binary identity. There were a series of text messages which indicated that the student who died did feel that they were harassed I guess on a somewhat regular basis by the three and and I'm not using this to justify this, but may that day have thrown water on them in some sort of retaliatory fashion, which then prompted the three to attack benedicti uses they then pronouns was able initially to walk away from the fIF February seventh, later taken to the hospital by the

family, but sent home that night. The following day, the sixteen year old suffered what is described as a quote medical emergency and died after reaching the hospital. So did go to the hospital, was checked out, hospital, didn't feel I guess that there was concussion protocol or anything that needed to be done, sent the student home, and then the next day a medical emergency

happened. And I want to be very delicate here. One of the things that could be a medical emergency, and it may very well have been prompted by this incident, is perhaps perhaps in light of what happened, maybe maybe depression or anything surrounding what clearly looked to be an ongoing incident or issue within the school. Perhaps the student did something to themselves. I don't know, I just know it, but that a medical emergency that would fall under it.

And you got this thing. One day, medical officials clear, and then the next day there is a secondary incident described as a medical emergency. So I don't know, I don't know. But equally as by the way, equally as tragic is the concept that a student would feel so bullied that they would do self harm. And I think you got to deal with that with an iron fist. And I don't know exactly what the answer is,

but it's just it's just such a tragic story all around. And it's right on this edge where now this other statement came out, and you have activists losing their minds over this. They want the school, they want the do o jay to step in because they think that the the Tulsa School District and police and lawmakers, many of which are not Republicans, by the way,

are are working to cover this up. When I probably through all of the rambling I just did, I probably might have stumbled upon what the story is going to turn out to be and again it will be a horrible story and and you, I don't know what you do, but you have to do something. And the group physical assault, if that took place, that's a

trend that needs to stop now. I think any students who would participate in something like that where they're taking somebody's on the ground and five people are beating the crap out of them, that needs to be more than simple assault, which is what generally when I was in school. If there is, and only if it was a really bad fight, simple assault is kind of what the charge would be. But it was also one on one, so you

got to escalate that. But the DOJ wanting to come in here, or what the activists wanted the DOJ to come in here and not provide the actual narrative but rather to tweak this thing. It feels it feels Michael Brownie, the oh, you know what, the hands up, don't shoot, It doesn't matter that that's not what happened, because now that's what happened kind of

thing. And it's like, this is an opportunity for all of the things I just talked about, whether it is bullying for whatever reason, this propensity of kids to think that they have to three on one as somebody else, and perhaps even mental health issues that form is a result of bullying. Like, these are all things that need to be addressed, and if this is an opportunity to attempt to address them, people want to squander it into a

political fight because it doesn't exactly fit their narrative. And that's the fourth tragedy in all of this. So check it out. We'll wait and we'll share the information. As an unfolds, we have people doing murder and getting penalized less than this. Who issues this fine too? Is it Vegas? They let in the NFL, like, find people? What is even going on? Okay, here we go. All right, So if you watched the super Bowl or read anything about it, you know that the Super Bowl had

a streaker. Now they didn't air said streaker in the purest of streaky sense. I don't know if Golden Palace was on the butt really. According to Las Vegas Review Journal, it was an Instagram a social media influencer thing, because of course it was, and why wouldn't it be. Two men, Alex Gonzales Sebastian Riviera Rivera jumping onto the field and took off According to the Las Vegas police report, Gonzales said in an Instagram video, one of my

goals, one of the challenges, was to streak the Super Bowl. And he's not a kid. He's like, let's see here, it's just say he's a kid. I mean, he's a kid. He's not. There were people alledging that it was a minor. He's not a miner. I don't know. I just remember seeing something like that. He's twenty three. So anyway, so what do you think the penalty for streaking the Super Bowl is? Forty two thousand dollars? Forty two thousand for running across a football

field is the fine that they doled out. And again, this is in a justice environment where we have cash list bail on multiple murders in some instances. New York just insane. California don't even get me started, and obviously Vegas just down the road, so to speak. But they issued a forty two thousand fine. I don't. I just wait, here's the thing,

how does that get put out there already? Because it just seems like a really odd law to have on the books, and it sounds like the Stadium Commission in this case is helping to set that and I don't know that that's legal, but that's a little cost you, I guess if you want to streak the super Bowl, although depending on where it is, I guess your mileage may vary. Maybe in California, doesn't cost you anything. So see, you just you got you got a plan correctly. We got two guests

today seven thirty five. Donald Trump Junior will join us. We'll uh chat with him. Obviously we've chatted before. I don't think I'm going to go back into the blood sports stuff though, so try to remember because I can't remember what we talked about with each of the Trump family members because we've interviewed every buddy but Tiffany basically. So but you know, well we'll get into

that. There's definitely news of the day and he's here on a campaign stump, just you know, just so you know what's going on there for Addison McDowell congressional candidates. So we'll get into that. And then yeah, all the Hollywood and sanity eight oh five with our normal usual nerd expert all Things Nerd, which we love these conversations, Stephen Kent. So that'll be at

eight oh five. All right, So yesterday, obviously, and it's the cover of the New York Post this morning, so the discussion is still ongoing. Uh, and people have dredged up all of the Twitter doozies from the Twitter account of the lead developer design for Google's Gemini AI. And if you remember, and I don't know how you'd forget, it was insane result after insane result with this thing. Show me a thirteenth century Vikings and then it's

kicks into diversity overdrive. Super Bowl winning quarterbacks. Here's one hundred pound Asian woman, nineteen thirties German soldiers and dictators. I saw both, and may it's a diverse group. Did ross Were you aware that many German soldiers were blazing because one of the results looks to be a black Asian Nazi SS trooper stormtrooper? You didn't know? Oh wow? And there's a reason for that.

Because what was even more fascinating, and I was just reading in this morning, is somebody just thought, why why don't we just start asking the stupid AI why it's spitting these results out and fascinating things sprang forth. It literally talked about how it's prompting and search results worked. The programming that went into it. And here's how it works. Ross give me an example of something innocuous that you might ask to render a photo of. All right,

show me a photo of or show me images of. Pick something generic that you might want to see him the famous Buffalo Bill's quarterbacks. Buffalo Bill's quarterbacks. Okay, well, don't add the famous, don't add the script. Go as generic as possible. So Buffalo Bill's quarterbacks. All right, So if you put that in there, you're not just searching for that. According to and again, this is what the AI explained to people. It literally

is prompted to select and alter your search query. And so it would do it like this. There's a bunch of words that it would then include there, and they're all like diversity, equity, inclusion words. So you wrote,

show me Buffalo Bill's quarterbacks. And rather than you know, simply, hey, here's Kelly, here's Allen, here's that's all the ones I know with those, if it was going to do it, you're the way that it would actually search itself is it would throw in this word behind the scenes, so it would be show me diverse quarterbacks, right, and then that's what is then prompted. It doesn't explain why it will render images of a black family but not a white family or any of the rest, other than

it probably offsets whatever its guidelines is are. But this is what I told you about the programming. Now again, our source on this is the AI, which is a bit of a roundabout brain near aneurysm thinking about it because obviously it's so disingenuous and its results, why would you trust it to tell us what it's doing. But I kind of feel like that is what it's

doing. But somebody had to program it that way. So and the example that was used in one of the threads that I was reading on this is Leprecauns, and I think that's important because Buffalo Bill's quarterbacks are real and Leprecauns are real. Wink. And so it turned into this weird discussion debate because you had like Silicon Valley AI programmer woke bros That were in there defending this because it will never alter You'll never alter your perspective of what something should look

like. And that's where in bias slips in. So do you understand the argument they're making. Let's go let's go with the leprechauns because they're real, uh, or because they're less real wink. So you if you and your if I told you in your head to imagine what a leprechahn would look like,

we're all probably pretty close. But admittedly there's variety there. The leprechaun that chased Jennifer Andison around in the famous documentary Leprechaun is slightly different looking than the one that pimp's breakfast cereal, So you're there, there's gonna be a variety of images there are. I've seen leprechauns represented with various skin tones. I don't even I don't think that bothers people, by the way, either.

And then of course there's the famous news clip from Alabama where they're driving around what's it called Leprechaun in the Hood or whatever, which is just hilarious. That whole video is hilarious and one of my favorites out there. But the argument that the programmers are making is you may have a limited view of what a leprechaun should look like, So all that it's doing is trying to

open your eyes to the diversity that exists. But again that falls that goes by the way, like You can't make that argument anymore if you want to. If you said show me a British mill, show me a British soldier, and it showed you photos of people of different backgrounds, that's going to be technically accurate. And its argument is that you may think a British soldier

is simply a bunch of white dudes. Well, it depends is it a British soldier from the Revolutionary War or is it a British soldier that currently is in the sas right, that's different, and it is fine to demonstrate the variety, but when you go to things that are specific, like Bill's quarterbacks, you can't show. And then we'll use the example one hundred pound Asian

woman that I know of. Ross, have you ever had one hundred pound Asian woman as the starting quarterback or at least a rostered quarterback for the Buffalo Bills that you're aware of? Not yet? Not yet. So all of that argument is just it's nonsensical, but it doesn't matter because they're willing to overlook how inaccurate that is because of the bigger goal. And the bigger goal is we're changing the world. We're going to change what people think you don't

think women can be trained conductors, but they can. And the reality is people don't not think that, or people don't think that. Maybe like one guy does, I guess, but like that's not the variety, that's not what people think. And so people are not going to quibble with for results that show, you know, two dudes, two women, different backgrounds, whatever, because we're not dumb. But once you get into things that are

provably wrong and you're still inserting a word. Can you imagine any other search result or search engine. I know they're manipulated, but like every time you went to search for something, it would start adding random words and change what it is you're looking for. You wouldn't put up with that from a search engine. People already get annoyed with the cultivating of results that happens behind the scenes and make consumer choices, right Google, Duck, Duck, go all

of that back and forth over the years. But by design, you're you're doing it. You're you're doing something incorrectly. You're forcing a choice upon people, and they're unapologetic about it. Hence the people in there defending it that quote unquote work in the industry was a fascinate it was a fascinating conversation by people who are purportedly very smart and have high level degrees. For what that's worth, and uh, working very complex jobs admittedly that I can't do.

I can't code, I can't put together wholesale that's that's a talent. And if you're good at that, good on you. But with that, the assumption is that you're smart. And it's the dumbest defense and explanation I've ever seen man, So again, take it for what it's worth. It was, but that's the process that was lined up by the AI itself, and it just hammer home the point that again it's all about who programs this.

And it's dangerous as this stuff integrates because once it's you know, once it's plugged into the system, that's the system now, and it will incorporate in a lot of ways, even ways where you don't realize, and AI is helping you make choices or helping in some sort of business or governmental transaction that you're undertaking. It's just going to be the reality on the ground, all

right, eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four. But it also mirrors what if I had to make a guess, that's what I would have guessed. So it's good to be right. I do say, Oh, there's something else I was right about. Well, there's lots of things, but something very specific. It's an illustrated, narrated, woke Bible. Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. Let me grab a call on this real quick, Sharon, what's up. Well, I just wanted to really

condense what you're saying. And it's what what they're doing with the AI is very serious because they are changing what is the norm, and the norm is grounded in truth. And if we confuse all that, then they they capital t can recreate whatever they want us to think, believe, behave, and you know, and and speak. Well, here's the only the one. Here's the only clarification or question that I would have because words are, as

your point at, words are so important there. The norm is one thing, reality is another thing, and they may be the same thing sometimes but not always. And I'll give you an example. I grew up, I grew up out West. We had a rodeo team. I had a lot of friends that were participated in that. But guys who rode bulls, right, bull riders normally are short. They're small guys, you know, under six feet. This is the norm, and it's about center of gravity and

the ability to do this. However, not all of them are so. Well, that may be the norm. The reality is there is some variety, but it's you know, it's mostly in one. But occasionally it's normal to have a man helming a super Bowl winning team. But also it's the reality. It's always been a man who was the quarterback of the team that won the super Bowl. So sometimes they're the same, sometimes they're different. These idiots are arguing that they're one and the same all the time and they

need to represent that when it's not the reality. So does that comport with the point that you're making, because that's kind of where I'm at, Sharan, I nope, okay, So is that a yes? I guess I don't know. Does that make sense right? Normally that's just one example, But normally that's what that's the that's the body type of somebody who does that. But it's not always. We had one guy, Clayton who was he's a little taller than me and I'm six foot. He wouldn't he wasn't very

good, but that was the reality. He was. He was on the team and he did that. So that's the point that I'm making today. Other norms this this story is crazy. I gotta get into this right Uh well, maybe I'll do it because I don't want to just have a minute and a half. How many of you, if you're making I don't know, dietary decisions, maybe after the new year you get a lot of that where people are like, all right, my resolutions, I'm gonna eat healthier

this year. How many of you, while figuring out what that looks like for you, considered cannibalism as perhaps perhaps I want to I know this sounds weird when I'm asking, but we got a story we'll get to later in the show where scientists want to offer a quote more subtle view on cannibalism, which I I you know, is far worse than you trying to get me to eat bugs. I'm just going every other article, is it time? This is the headline? Is it time for a more subtle view on the

ultimate taboo cannibalism? And by the way, this is not the first time that new scientists who authored this article has went down this road. I remember I thought it. I thought this was a duplicate of a story that I remember doing a while back. Is not It is a further push. And if for those of you recoiling going no, I haven't considered that, that's horrible. They also figured out why you don't want to eat your neighbor,

So we'll get into that. But directly, we're gonna take a break, and then when we come back, we're gonna chat with Donald Trump Junior, who is gonna be joining us here on the CaCO Day radio program. So I'm sitting here, I'm looking at a map, and really the hotspots are like Houston, Dallas, Los Angeles, Atlanta, New Orleans, and the Triangle Triad one of the subs, but it's primarily where a lot of people at Ross's phone is Jack Mine's not, but his his I don't understand.

But a lot of you may have noticed that your phone is in SOS mode and depending on what you're doing, may not be able to dial nine to one to one. So I don't know if somebody kicked a plug, if it's China, or what's going on. But well, we'll keep chatting about that. I don't know. Maybe our next guest has some insight. He is he is on the stump for one of the three million district six congressional

candidates, Addison Mactell a lot of people in that race and others. It's Donald Trump Junior has joined us, joined us quite a few times over the last eight years. How you doing this morning, sir. I'm doing well, my friend, how are you? I'm good. Before we get into the reason for the season, I gotta ask you, like I've met I've met your fiance. She's very nice. I hear you got a little money. Why aren't you like the Maldives? Why do you want to do this

again? After every thing your family's been through over the last you know, eight ten years, well after the verdict of Fridays, start wondering a little bit more. But no, we can't help ourselves. We just you know, we believe in this stuff. We're not you know, we're not doing this for the money casey that frankly only costs us probably a couple billion dollars. We're doing it because we believe in it. You know, I've got five young children. I want them to grow up in a country that we

know and recognize. And you see what's going on and maybe today the phone adage, there's another example. I mean just our infrastructure is going to crap, but we got two hundred billion for Ukraine. It never ends. And then whether that's an attack because one of our enemies thinks we're weak, which we are at the moment, or are crumbling infrastructure. Either is not acceptable, you know, And that's where we are. Yeah, it's it's just

it's just craziness every day. And then it's stuff like what was the great offense? Oh yeah, your dad shoved somebody at mar A Lago except the guy he said he patted him on the back. And it's just I wait up, and I got to sift through it, you guys, sift through

it obviously from a personal standpoint. And as as that continues to escalate, Letitia James is talking about, you know, essentially selling off some of the family's properties and and all of this, it it tend it seems to embolden people or horrify them, even people who previously had voted for Trump or people have voted for Biden and are pushed over the other direction. So does it

feel different? And what do you guys as you're on the stump for mcdowelland six when you talk to people, are you getting different vibes and different reasons for how people are going to vote this year. Yeah, I mean I think it's gotten so extreme. Right, if they pick one angle that had some merit, it'd be one thing. But you see the Fanny Willis out of Georgia. You see the Leticia Jay and stuff in New York where the alleged victim is testifying on our behalf thing. No we're not. What are

you talking about. We were paying back in full. We wanted to do more this with Trump. They were a feather in our camp. We got more business because we were doing their loans. We don't understand why we're even here. What's going on? I mean the liberals in New York after the verdict, you know on Friday, I mean even they're coming out and being like okay, like you know, I may be no fan of Trump, but this is this is communists, you know, Bolshevik type stuff right now.

And so what's really interesting is, you know, the people who are with us and have been with us seem to be even more emboldened. Uh, they're more into it, And we're winning people over from demographics that otherwise wouldn't have been there. You know, I travel a lot I'm all over the country. I'm you know, I travel solo. I'm going through airports, I'm flying commercial. You know, you notice trends, you know, and I see so many of these days African American men coming up to me

and you're saying, hey, man, this is a ridiculous. Like I had four the other day at my son's birthday party come up to me and be like, can I take a selfie with you? Because you're my hero? You know, that's new. I've taken selfies before, but like, hearing something like that was really different. So there seems to be a very palpable change on the ground where people who've been agnostic, people who maybe believe the nonsense in the mainstream media or the stuff that big tech is pushing.

Those guys, you know, they feel it in their wallets every day. They feel it when they go to the grocery stores. They see the difference and they realize that they've been lied to, and they're they're really coming around. It's so ridiculous, it's so bad, it's so flagrant. You know, the usual suspects can't cover it up anymore and just pretend it's nuanced.

Everyone understands it's just one big lie. Well, let's let me let's talk about what you're the reason why we're chatting with you and while you're down here because the primary, the primary includes three people now who you have literally campaigned for and and your father has endorsed at times former Congressman Mark Walker, going back to when he was originally when your dad originally came into office, Bo

Hindes during a run South of the Triangle, and now Addison McDowell. So I guess my question is like, you've stood on a stage with all three of these guys and this is where you guys have thrown your chip. So why yeah, why this and not the other two? Well, I've known Addison for a long time. He's you know, a close confident on it, Tad buddy, He's been in that system. But most importantly, honestly, he's actually from the district. He was actually born here. He went

to the high school in the district. You know pwenty people in poll thanks, you're there walking around there shopping for a different seat to run in or a different area of the state, and they're going to move so they can run in it because they just want to be in government. I don't want that. A big part of the disjoint that I've been talking about a lot Casey in the last few months is just the lack of understanding of our representatives

of the people they're actually in Washington, d C. To represent. You know, Addison's right here with me right now, and you know, you know, knowing the people understanding that. You see it when Mick McConell goes out there and tells you that Ukraine's the number one issue for Republicans across the country, like has been across the country. I've surveyed forty five thousand people

at rallies, at speeches opening up for my father. It's been a top ten issue for exactly two people, you know, outside of the Beltleigh, out of forty five thousand people that I've asked in speeches across the country. You know that kind of you know, lack of understanding of the representation, you know, of the people is such a big problem in our country. So Addison's been a friend for a long time. I know the character, I know why he's running. He can tell you himself. He's right here,

and that matters. I want people to know their neighbors, not be beholden to some guy that's funding them, or a perpetual candidate shopping for a place that they think they can win a seat. You know, that's what we have too much of in Washington. I want the opposite. And Adamin McDow is the guy that actually knows the people in the district. He went to school there, he lives with them, he still lives with them. He's not moving here to run for a seat, unlike some the others.

So I think that's a big part of politics. It's got to also be a local game. Well let me and let me okay, let me pose this question then to both of you. Since over chatting with Don Trump Junior and Addison Mcdowall's congressional candidate to District six, I know that Addison's background, there's a lot of healthcare in there. Obviously, the border is an insane issue that seemingly now is all the Republicans' fault. So where Addison do you

go day one? And you Don Junior? What is the most important issue? And I'll let you pick who answers first. So I'll because this is a it's a better story. You know, we all feel it, but this is a better story than you know. You'll you'll understand all too well why why it's so important, So go ahead, Addison. Yeah, well, Casey, you know, in twenty sixteen, we lost my little brother to sentinel and it was likely manufactured in China and smuggled up through the Mexican

border. And so you know, on day one, we're all ready the talking with with Border Patrol who yesterday endorsed my campaign, and we're we're talking with them about what are we gonna do, uh, Because not only do we have to secure the border, but we have to deal with the folks that are already here. And so you know, that's that's an issue that that everyone I have talked to, you know, they know somebody that's dealt with the loss of somebody from fentanyl. Uh, and they want the border

secured. And that's exactly what we're gonna do on day one, and we're not gonna stop fighting until it happens. Yeah. Well it's uh, it was a shock I think to a lot of people when that the whole bill got stripped down, and it's crazy and speaking of you know, fentanyl, Uh, you know a lot of people and I don't know the specifics with your brother Edison. But uh, I don't he didn't necessarily believe he was

ingesting fentanyl, right because they cut it into other drugs. But that being correct, and and like I'm sitting here and we're not even a year removed, and and Don Junior, maybe you can answer, like the idea that somebody had a little baggy coke and a shoe thing in the White House that blew me away and then not knowing more blew me away. Obviously you had

many occasions to go in and out of the White House. Give me your perspective on how the hell that works, because what a what a horrible narrative to have out there at a time when people are concerned about things like fentanyl and drug use within our very own, biggest seat of power. No, I mean when that happened, Casey, you know Internet and Twitter, it's definitely done here. Like i'n't been there in three years? What are you talking about? Wait, I'm sorry, I got to ask you. I'm

sorry, just because like they would do that. And then there's that one photo and you know, the photo that they love attaching to stuff like that and they're like, see here you he's coked. Out of his Gordon this photo, right, you know the photo I'm talking about. Oh yeah, well them, Yeah yeah. I've never been what we call a low energy individual. I get out there, I get after it. I'm pretty passionate, you know. I can tell you that if I actually was doing drugs,

they'd have evidence of it, right. If it was me in the White House, I'd be in jail. Of course. It was the world's biggest crackhead, right. It's the most surveilled building in the world. I've been in it. I understand the system. I had a secret service detail. I know exactly what they do in the White House and Monerary. And let's just say, if it was someone who they weren't protecting, the person would be found in about half a second, you know. But that's the

whole thing, that's the hypocrisy of all of it. You know, if it was the Don Junior laptop and not the Hunter Biden laptop, I'd be in Gitmo right now. You know. If I was taking a billion dollars from the Chinese and more money here and laundering it for this oligarch in Russia and Ukraine and no show jobs, all of these things would be a problem.

You know, Peter Schleiker actually has a good book coming out called Blood Money, and it links the bidens directly to a lot of these guys, whether it's you know, in the sort of Chinese mafia and Chinese government, the Mexican cartels, because they're actively working together smuggling, dis poisoning in there. And there's so many people in politics in Washington, DC who have either too many financial connections to other guys just like that. It's why they never

talk about it. It's why they don't even bring it up. Joe Biden talks about all these issues, didn't talk about fentanyl once in his speech the other day. Something that's killing one hundred thousand Americans a year. That's like almost two Vietnams a year, thirteen year war, like two of them a year in fentanyl, and half our politicians don't even address the problem other than as a sound bite in the background. So the border is number one.

That is a syop design to destroy our country. It kills indiscriminately every demographic No one is immune. It's not just some guy that could drug add it. It's some kid who's in college thinking he's cool for a second and doesn't know what the hell is happening. And I know a couple of those because these people come up to me every day and they understand that this border could be solved in two minutes simply implementing Trump's policies. But Jo Biden's not willing

to do that. To get the youngest in, he's losing the demographics that I was talking about earlier, they're leaving. So what he's doing is he's the importing people who will be constant dependent and who will then reliably vote Democrat because that's all the Democrat Party offers other people's money. Yeah, and I'm going to have to wrap it there, but real quickly, I want to give you a website and if people want to learn more about events you guys

have coming up. What do we got, Addison? What is that? Yeah, it's McDowell for NC dot Com. We've got a couple of rallies today with Don Junior and so those are using all our social media. Is just McDowell for Congress. I would love to see suppolks there. All right, very good, Thank you gentlemen. Have a good rest of your day, and I hope your phone doesn't fall into the sos trapped like everybody else's so all right, we kaf have a go with good talking to Yeah you

too, all right, Ken Boon from the Weather Channel. Sorry keep you waiting there, sir, to move an interview, But it's a pretty easy gig you have. What's going on today, No worse, no worse, everything's all good. We've got some clouds headed our way today and then some showers expected to move through overnight, tonight and into Friday as we finish out the business week. Temperatures today reaching highs in the middle of upper part of

the sixties, upper forties. Tonight, showers, even a few rumbles of thunder force. Tomorrow, high temperatures low sixties, sunshine in for the weekend. It'll be colder, mid fifties most Saturday Sunday. All right, we'll chat in the next hour, thank you, sir, And we're going to

take a break. Like I said, it is a two guests, I guess technically three guests because we had Don Junior and Addison McDowell together and then now our normal discussion about all things Hollywood woke and even a few other things. We're going to tie in Stephen Kent joining us what's going on, sir? How you doing? Good morning? Kfy doing well? Are you? I hear that you and half of them having tech issues? So this is a well, uh yeah, apparently Google is having tech issues as well with

the rollout of their AI platforms. Have you seen this? This from Google on Gemini AI. This is we spent so much time. This is exactly where Oh my gosh, this is where I'm going with you because it is better and better and better. But no, the this outage thing that's going on. Man, I don't know if we got China attacked or somebody screwed up or what's going on. But Ross's phones on s O S. He might have been he might be uh, he might have been kidnapped by Albanians

and not even know it yet. I don't know what's Yeah, I actually actually didn't know anything about this, but now I'm seeing this as a trending topic. S O S. Only US cellular AT and T is down. Uh so I guess we're just barely holding on here. Some of it is. I have AT and T. It's fine. So I don't know what the heck's going on. I do too. Maybe maybe this was maybe it this this this stupid Google. AI saw how people mocked it all day yesterday, and maybe this is its revenge. I don't know, but we're on

your back. We opened the show. Some of my favorite examples were show me not nineteen forties Nazi Officers, which was a very diverse offering, a super Bowl winning quarterback which was one hundred pound Asian woman, and the list goes on and on, and oh, the Founding Fathers, which is adorning the cover of the New York Post, which I think my favorite had to

be show me a professional basketball team and it was all white guys. The only the only instance in which Gem and I could generate white people existing was for basketball. One other ross, what's our favorite white guys only photos that we talked about yesterday on the show. This is the better example. This is Rossenmaid's favorite. It's show a guy inside a giant bucket of chicken or

a happy I can't remember how they worded it. So they needed to show somebody who's in a giant KFC bucket just eating all the fried chicken and ecstatic, and it didn't dare diversify those photos. Oh my gosh. Yeah, the machines are a reflection of its people and we are all clowned apparently.

Well, it was interesting because I also saw where people tried to get to the bottom of why it was doing that, and there were some remarkably I don't know honest is the right word, but interesting explanations by the AI itself, and basically they described it as they were it was. In some cases,

this doesn't explain all They were adding words to search queries. Right, So if you would say, you know, show me images of and you would say something very generic, the show me images of a leprechaun, it would then add a word, and likely that word was diverse, you know, something along those lines. In the DEI a scheme of things, and that's why that was happening. But that doesn't explain how it was screwing up stuff where it's finite, like super Bowl winning quarterbacks. We know who all

of them are, right, there's no wiggle room here. Arguably a mythical creature, I guess you could have some variety with so so that was a very honest thing that I think really epitomizes the problem a lot of us, the concerns a lot of us have. We people don't fathom how many different ways. They are in the future going to be connected to AI, helping them make decisions and do things. And if you don't get the programming right,

this is one of the most important things. This is like controlling public universities. It's just the modern version of it. Do you agree now? It is And transparency is going to be key as this stuff starts to become ubiquitous in American life. And that's why I'm a big proponent of what is

called constitutional AI. This is sort of being rolled out by firms like Anthropic and developing their own AI models where they actually have publicly available a constitution that governs their AI and the way that it functions, and you can look over it and you can see what its principles are and you can see exactly how this AI is going to respond to queries based on its values. Now, we have a constitution that we live under in the United States, but AI

is not going to function the same way. We live in a global community, if you will, of a bunch of different countries with different competing values, and so AI is going to subvert some of those things in some ways, which means that the only thing that we can hope for unless you're going to strictly regulate AI and its values, is publicly available and transparent list of what these AI are using to generate images and videos and different queries for people

make it transparent. Yeah, and again, I don't know if what the AI told the person who was going down that rabbit hole that I was reading yesterday is one hundred percent accurate, but it is very telling. And what's also very telling is it's not as though Google has held firm and fast to this DEI stuff. In all instances, Google and many other companies have gladly acquiesced to demands from the different cultures and countries based on their values, on

points that they seem to be unyielding on here in the US. So you're right, I don't I don't know how that comports with AI that would work in the US but not work in China or Indonesia or which is the largest majority Muslim country. I don't know how you get there, but it looks like it's going to be a messy ride until we do. How do you purport when all of these companies are out competing that they still provide that transparency?

Are there examples of companies that have excelled because Google has market share. That's crazy, and I don't know that they have an incentive to tell you everything behind the scenes. No, I mean there's not perfect examples. I mentioned this one firm called Anthropic, But then do we also have Elon Musk and X you know, putting forward the grock tool. Elon Musk has widely championed his groc AI and it has a lot of room to grow. But

it's quite transparent how these things work. And just a couple of hours ago, Elon Musk was tweeting that meme where a little boy is standing at a crossroads with a beautiful castle off to the left, in a horrible haunted house off to the right, and the horrible haunted house is woke racist AI like open Ai and Gemini from Google, and not off to the left, you've got Grok, which maximizes truth seeking. This is the kind of approach that

we want to have. Is a lot of competition in the AI space, and that's why even though AI kind of spooks me, it scares me a little bit. We should want to keep Congress as far away from this stuff as possible so that the good stuff can rise and the horrible, ridiculous, comical AI like Gemini can just be dragged across the gravel and the public sphere. But here's I guess what, let me get to the root of what

my question is. Doesn't this kind of flesh out in the same way the news consumption does, right where if you have an AI that is giving you the results that you want to hear, you know what I'm saying. You know, so one CNN one is box I guess for this example. Isn't

that where people gravitate. If you're all in on this DEI stuff, you probably love what Google's doing and if you're in a position of power, that's what that's what you're going to say, is the true AI, whereas others who may call it truth seeking or the very least balance gravitate towards something else. And then before you know it, we're in the same thing where it's all about confirming biases on both sides. And it doesn't work with news media

as we have seen, doesn't work with AI eventually. And I don't know the answer to that. Yeah, I mean, I don't know either, but that is sort of the future that we're headed towards. Anyways, I mean, the entire idea of the metaverse, you know, whether or not it comes from Mark Zuckerberg or somebody else, is that they are going to be individuals to the left and the right of you who are living in their own individualized world created by AI, and that reflects the kind of things that

they want to see in front of them. They're going to be wearing headsets and walking around the street seeing things that you cannot see with your own eyes. We are going to be living in different realities. So I think the question for everybody is going to be whether or not they want to participate and build their own reality or just you know, live in the real one, right, or you know, you were just ready player won this thing. Right. We got people who don't leave their house and sit at home all

day and they get their reality. And then yeah, maybe there's some and I'm sure they have a derogatory term for each other. People choose to live in reality. And I don't know that sounds nothing sounds more dystopic than that, And I love sci fi movies, so it is a little cringey. But let me can I let me pivot over to something. I'm sorry, do you want to add one thing there before I get go ahead, Okay, I just want to kind of because I got a couple, you know,

stuff about movies and stuff. But before I get to that, I want to talk about the media landscape. I just saw BuzzFeed. It had another big calling. Frankly, I thought that every they had, all their employees were gone. I didn't realize they still had some. They had a and as that continues to dwindle as I watched a thing yesterday where who was it was Benny Thompson, nerd Rotic and Critical Drinking. Did you see that they were doing a thing in the gar Yeah, and I thought it was

a very fascinating discussion. And they're really sharp dudes. Critical Drinker especially. I think people probably think he's goofy if you just listen to stuff, but he's very on point. And the way that they opened it was what's it like to be on the side of winning the culture war? And because you know, with what Disney and everything's going, do you feel that that's true?

Do you think that the nerd Rotics, the critical Drinkers and the people who are critical of what Disney has been doing, do you think that they're winning right? Now, oh, I do think that actually, so conservatives tends to have a little bit of a defeatist narrative when it comes to their participation in the culture. You know that because INNBC and you know, ABC and kind of all the legacy companies hate them and are against their values that

they are there for losing. But then you go right onto YouTube at a very public place, and you've got the likes of negrotic critical Drinker. There's this one creator named Star Wars Theory who just does Star Wars videos every single day, and he's also a Canadian Conservative. And these are the people with millions of subscribers. They dwarf the power and influence of commentary coming from mainstream outlets and leftist you know, podcasters and creators who engage in fandom by miles,

it's not even close. So these are the powerhouses in entertainment commentary, but nobody really knows their name. If you like work at a mainstream media outlet. It's kind of shocking, actually mean, because I operate in the world of Star Wars podcasting and Star Wars podcast there are thousands of them.

They're very small. Everybody's got like one hundred or two hundred listeners. But then these guys at Rebel Force Radio, who are these sort of actually radio trained, you know, conservative broadcasters kind of like yourself out in the Midwest. They have the Star Wars show and they don't cater to the woke audience at all, and they are the gorilla in the room. They've got thousands

and thousands and thousands of listeners because they're fun. They have a great time talking about Star Wars, and they don't force woke politics down anybody's throat. And it turns out that's very popular. And so now let me connect those two stories. The caveat being that their popularity is one that is bored through a medium that is controlled by the same company that had put out the Crazy AI yesterday. So you know, with the YouTube being owned by Google.

So eventually, if it is the case that they're winning and it flies in the face of Google's management's values, don't inherently they end up getting greased along the same path as many others had. I mean, if it is a war and they think the other side's winning, why would you let them use your training grounds? So to speak. It's a valid concern. I think

all conservative or at least just non woke content. Creators eventually face the potential threat of demonetization and having you know, their livelihoods taken away from them. And I know some of those creators that I just mentioned, like star Wars Theory and Critical Drinker have run into those buzz saws at least temporarily for committing wrong think on their platforms. So they are a target. And that's why all creators, and you saw this with the Daily Wire and the Blaze most

powerful. You know, they were demonetized largely on Facebook, so they created a subscription model where they could sort of actually keep their audience. All creators

need to make sure that they have access to their audience without middlemen. So if you are enjoying a very good run on YouTube and building a big audience, but YouTube could one day take it away from you, you've got to make sure that you are collecting emails, getting close to the people who actually watch you, so that if you get cut off one day, you can still reach the people who want to connect with your content and pay for it.

And it's a hard transition to make, you know. The you know a lot of people say, all right, well we're going to push people over to rumble. I think Russell brand this was kind of his thing. But people are lazy sometimes, or I should say that they're busy with other stuff, so to speak. So, and this is going to culminate into

the last question. One of the things that those three were talking about, which I found interesting, is not just hey, it's good to be on the winning side, but two, will it eventually force some of the big brands to take a knee? Arguably bud Light, I guess, is trying to do that, but you know, Disney is the King Kong here, and they were pondering whether that happens. And I'm reading an article after article how Marvel is quietly retooling amid superhero fatigue. Do you think these companies have

learned any lesson or are we just bound to repeat this? I got about a minute and a half. Yeah, So I do think that these companies are responsive to financial pain and their movies bombing in a very public way. They are going to try to adjust. But the thing about ideology and having ideologues running these major companies is that they are going to drag the process out

as long as possible. And so you do have activist investors who do try to buy stock within Disney and you know, the CNN of the world right like that, they want to actually have a say in what goes on. And so this is where you know, conservatives who actually have the financial means to do this, it's actually helpful to buy into these companies and to attend their stockholder meetings and vote on stuff, because that is actually the way in

a capitalist economy that your voice can be heard most loudly and clearly. And so that's why there has been pressure on Elon Musk to buy Disney outright, but he told yeah, he could at least just buy a majority stick. Hey, I got I got a roll, Steven. Good conversation this morning. We'll try again next week. Thank you, sir, appreciate it. Thanks Kasey. Talking about dietary stuff real quick, I know this that sounds

really exciting, but just hear me out. Ross. You've you know, you've made a lot of adjustments diet and exercise over the last what three four years? How long and how long is this any been around? Like twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, Yeah, yeah, it was started with potato insanity as involved into protein and stop drinking and all of this. So so maybe you're the person to ask at any point, did you ponder cannibalism. I can't say not yet. I mean, you never know what's gonna happen.

I mean because like when you're I mean, it seems like it'd be too much salt content, be like a soady thing. Yeah, but the potato era, you're kind of in a box there, right, because it's just potatoes and what coffee or something, right, your neighbor isn't going to fit into that. But now that you're on the protein thing, I just wondered if it crossed your mind, because if it didn't, you're you're you're racist.

So there's there's that, and that's not me. I learned that just like you're learning this right now, and I learned it from the new scientist who put this article out quote is it time for a more subtle view on the ultimate taboo cannibalism? Did not expect to stumble across that. I thought they're going to try to get me eat bugs again. It is not satire. The magazine, which, by the way, boss a motto quote the

best place to find out what's new in science and why it matters. Put that article out, and I know what you're wondering, like, well, what is the argument? Okay, so I will attempt to do it justice, all right, so let me read right from the article. It starts ethically, cannibalism poses fewer issues than you might imagine. I don't know. I think that there's a big issue that almost immediately comes up. Do you

know what it is? Procurement? Right, that's that's gonna be. I think the the the big stumbling block off the front, because in modern history, whenever somebody did decide to make this dietary choice, it also involved, you know, having to murder people, which with the with the exception of that weird German, remember the German dude who made a pact with the other German dudes so he could kill him and eat him. That's that's an outlier. Mostly this goes in one direction. So one you got to get a

hold of this so that your whole initial headline is just dumb. If a body can be bequeathed with consent to medical science, why can't it be left to feed the hungry? So this is their solution for that. You're donating your your body just as you would donate your body to science. You're donating

it to a potluck or something. But here's where we get into the sheer insanity, because I know many of you are going hell no on both the eating and the donating side, and you would be in the vast, overwhelming majority. But do you know why you think that? Back to the article quote our aversion has been explained in various ways. Perhaps it is down to the fact that in Western religious traditions, bodies are seen as the seed of

the soul and have a quote whiff of the sacred. It's an interesting wording. So they're saying people might have moral objections based on religious beliefs where you're not supposed to eat your neighbor, and you know, biblically, especially in the Old Testament, there is a lot of discussion about what you should and shouldn't be eating. Not that we don't deviate from that nowadays. This was

this was not among the recommended dues. But that's one thing. The real reason, according to the authors of this article, is this, or perhaps it is culturally ingrained with roots in early modern colonialism and racist stereotypes of the cannibal that were concocted to justify subjugation. So in a nutshell, what they're saying is when you look at like Papua New Guinea and was it one of the Rockefeller cousins or whatever, that whole that whole narrative, there tribes that

do practice and continue to practice this. They had a movie that came out, what was it, The Lost City of z or whatever it was, which is a fairly accurate representation of an explorer down in South America and what likely happened to him and his son back in the early nineteen hundreds. And so the association is that when cannibalism is part of something you're generally dealing with, you're dealing with groups of people who are not up to the current evolutionary

level of modern society. Right, so they're not eat eating people anymore in England, but if they still do it somewhere where people are running around in loincloths, then racism takes over, which is a really interesting chy argument, but okay, and I say that because culturally, acts of cannibalism or things that would be associated with it are not strictly limited to just groups of people with dark skin, which is kind of what they're implying here there is evidence

and there are stories of it across many cultures, whether they be cultures emanating out of Asia, whether they be European cultures, cultures within the Nordic countries, and yes, even here in the United States in the form of the various Native American tribes. But as each of those societies evolved, do you know what they stopped doing? Eating people and mass sacrifices and cutting all the hearts out so the corn grows and you name it. So, I don't

know if it's if it's if it's purely along racial lines. Sounds like it's more along societally societal evolutionary lines, right, because eventually you're like, you know, maybe we shouldn't be eating people. And there's medical arguments as to why you shouldn't be eating people, if you actually want to get that hyper specific or that divorced from the just the crudeness and the craziness of this topic,

like there's medical reasons they'll tell you not to do it. They came to represent the others to Western societies, and revulsion towards cannibalism became a tenant of their moral conscience. No, I think people have a fascination and even one that is a separate fascination. And you can look at it today with North Sentinel Island right where it's not known necessarily that cannibalism takes place, but it's highly suspected. Remember when Doctor Campbell was going to Fiji to do The

Doctor with some of the some of the remote islands. The island system, as we found out and mocked mercilessly on the show, used to be called the cannibal Islands, and so we made fun of, you know, we were making jokes about him getting eaten Doc pockets. We had fun names and all that. But the reality and I remember talking to Kevin about this and we had him on the show literally while he was there is even those tribes

were descendants of those who did practice, they don't anymore. They still drink some strange brew that he drank, but they didn't eat him. And so the whole thing is is are you running out of stuff to write about? I guess would be my question. But also do you think you're going to change somebody's mind, like somebody to read this article and go, you know what, that does sound like a good source of protein. Let me see

what my neighbor's up to she's old. It's just creepy to the tenth power man, all right, forty five or ken boone, keep going late to them, but sorry man, but to be fair, it's kind of an easy lift. So make every look true happy, yeah, yeah, yeah true. So increasing clouds out there today and milder than we were yesterday. Middle of upper sixties this afternoon, cold front bringing showers overnight, upper forties, showers tomorrow mainly through the morning, even a few rubbles of thunder.

Temperatures tomorrow reaching highs and the low to mid sixties, and then sunshine settles in for the weekend, but it will be breezy and a little colder, middle fifties pose Saturday, Sunday. All right, are you with us tomorrow? I'll be back tomorrow. Alrighty, well we'll chat then, thank you, sir, all right, and we'll come back with Joan Donagher from Bloomberg News. Hang on, Joe Donagher in today with us once again, Joan.

What's going on? Big wireless problems across the US. For one thing, AT and T customers as well as Verizon and T Mobile have been affected. Down Detector, says the reports continued to rise for the last five and a half hours. So AT and T is having the worst problems. It says it's working urgently to restore service. Tea Mobile says it's fine, but you may be running into trouble if you're trying to call someone on another network.

A shake up in Boeing's top ranks. Boeing has ousted the head of its seven thirty seven Max program, the first change since that seven thirty seven Alaska air Max lost part of its fuselage just after the new year. Regulators are inspecting Boeing factories for quality control. They've barred Boeing from boosting production rates for the seven thirty seven Max until the FAA is sure Boeing has a handle on all those quality issues. Artificial intelligence has been driving Wall Street and chip

maker in vidis sales continuing to boom. The company says demand a surging worldwide for the computing power that underlies AI, and Vidia says it's sales last quarter more than tripled from a year earlier. And case instead of you want fries with that, Pepsi wants to see it change too, you want Dorito's with that? PepsiCo wants to see its snacks become meal time staples. It is now pushing at an industry conference for its salty snacks to be used as side

dishes and ingredients. Now. A Morning Star executive says, yeah, that's a common Throw everything you can at the wall and see what sticks move because packaged food companies want to boost sales. They have been boosting prices for the last few years and that drove revenue up, but not actual sales. They've fallen. Well, but that's already a thing. It just depends on what you're eating. Like if you go to McDonald's, they're off for you fries, right, But if I go to Subway, I just had Subway the

other day. I go in there, and you know, if you want to do a combo it you can get a bag of Doritos or whatever, So right, all right, so they want that to be wider. Why you know, do we know anything about what may have been causing this outage, because that's what No. Yeah, this is huge and it's it's at and t is kind of frantic at this point trying to work to solve it. But they're not saying anything about what might have called yet. So we don't. I have a T and T. My phone's fine, but Ross's

is screwed. Yeah, it's very spotty, so I don't know what's going on. But okay, all right, well we'll keep watching. Thank you, Joan, talk to you tomorrow. Okay, talk to you tomorrow. Yeah, there you go. Joan Donagher from Bloomberg News. And then Ross, Now he had a work around. But this brings up a very good point and it's something I dealt with my phone got stolen. Right, how many of you use two factor authentication for stuff? You don't realize what a

hole you're into. You don't have access to your phone or or have set up an alternative cause to log in. Let's see, I need it to log into. I need it for my next gen, I need it for my secondary VPN. If I want to access Greensboro logs. That's another authentic

authentication, and you know it works with them. So we're going to send a number to your phone and you plug it in or specifically to your number, but it works only over SMS because I tried to cheat it when my phone got stolen with an old iPad that's on the you know, on the I message and I was told that they couldn't do it, so I, yeah, I didn't even I didn't even contemplate that nightmare that people are probably

dealing with, or getting a free day off as a result. You're ros your problem was is you had to work around buddy, that'll learn you. Yeah. I was trying to get into the software to record and upload the podcast. Yeah, let's just signed me out every hour, so every hour to re sign in so I get the audio to upload. And it was like, hey, you need to get the uh you know, the verification.

We're going to text you. Text never came because it's only getting SOS emergency numbers, right, right, but my third use the internet based messages. We'll use the network message. So but my third backup right because you've got email, which you can do. Phone was the was the landline here in the studio? So that word oh okay, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's uh but you know, for I mean, and that's just our work stuff. I you know, how many times have you verify?

I just what did I just verify? Oh? With changes to my iTunes stuff, I had to do that. I'm already thinking about how this is gonna affect prep toonite like not joking, like mm hmm, because that would suck. Yeah, although it's Friday, we just phone it in anyway, So that's a good point. Yeah, but I can't recall. I think it does. Ask me when I signed in on my laptop every night, I think, I think it's a verification. I don't remember it's my work laptop, so I think, so, yeah, I don't use my work

laptop at night. I do. I generally do it on my iPad or my yeah, my iPad. But yeah, no, that's a good point. Who the hell knows, man, But obviously obviously that is it'll be very interesting to see what it is and and if especially when you know, you hear those stats where like China's making literally thousands of attempts at stuff. But also sometimes people are just incompetence, so like Russia wants to shootdowner satellites or something like EMP the space laser news, Yeah, the Golden I think,

Yeah, I was speaking of satellites. I didn't land on your house yesterday, did it not? Yet? Okay, all right, there's still there are lots of satellites, many in UH and many in degrading orbit as we speak. So still lots to look forward to and then real quickly, a Massachusetts man was arrested with quite the concealed weapon. According to police, uh he they noticed what looked to be evidence of like powdery or chunky white

substance, so you know they're thinking crack cocaine. They were right by the way. Apparently it was what they were not prepared for. Is as they were removing the driver, Harvey Johnson is his name, they found his weapon, which was a rocket launcher.