Monday-1-22-2024

All right, good morning everybody, and uh, yeah it's Monday, so yeah, but you know it's gonna not be near twenty mostly this week, so you know, we got a little upside there. We'll check in with race Agic coming up just a little later. Obviously, in the in the show, I wrote down that he's on. I forgot to write the time. What time is Dale faul Wells? He's seven o five eight five, eight oh five this morning. All right, So obviously, yes, state

treasurer and gubernatorial candidate. We're gonna get it hit mostly on the well well, we're gonna bounce around, so uh he's gonna have to bring uh multiple hats. But that'll be an eight oh five. We'll get into that. Oh do do do do do? All right? Would you what would you do this weekend? There there ross? Uh did you you and the family celebrate anything? Maybe on Saturday kind of uh party around the house. I don't think so well, I mean, how would you How do you not

think so? Like, wouldn't you know if you celebrated know what you're talking about? So it was Saturday was uh it was the celebrate the success of Vladimir Lenin day. So we did not celebrate that. Oh wow, wow, because I saw on on the socials, right, that was kind of a popular thing to do because of you know, the communist utopia he was able to build there. The Democratic Socialists of America and several other groups decided

Saturday that was gonna be a good use everyone's time. So that's what they did. Man, They set out to remind folks on social media, and I got to tell you it went wonderfully, as you can probably imagine as it raises several questions, but arguably was the holiday of the week, so we'll have to get to that. So yeah, Dale fallwell eight oh five, the Kamala Harris claims the president has superpowers. Stop really, but it was kind of fun to watch, you know, the internet do what the

internet does. And uh yeah, we're gonna have to just get ready because we're continuing down the primary road with kind of a big change on the Republican side of things. And it was just so weird how all of the DeSantis stuff was handled over the weekend. So yeah, yeah, gonna be a busy one, but let me do this since uh there we go was one to get the rest of those tweets to sit there and load LeVar Burton story is hilarious and uh, how did you not think No Pants Day was gonna

go? Well? I mean, don't get me wrong, it failed on a level of an epic level, one that you know, frankly, I probably wouldn't have predicted because I've seen the one that they do in Philo. I haven't seen it, thankfully, But but whatever that was supposed to be, what a horrific day to be traveling around Phoenix with your kids on the

light rail, because that's straight that got hijacked. Man, And very sad news about a story that we had from September September of last year from Mexico and Peru specifically where one video was filmed, but where one thing was discovered, and we'll have to we'll have to touch on that, all right, obviously the elephant in the room. I guess let's just go ahead and do this. Did you know the Detroit Lions have more NFC Championship appear a game

of appearances than the Cowboys do this century? I wonder Staging knows that they have more NFC Championship appearances than the Cowboys do this century, which is a wonderful wonderful fact that I enjoyed discussing yesterday with two of my very best friends who are huge cowboy homers, and then they always do that, hey, we get the rings thing, but that was then what have you done for

me lately? And that's what she had. So we'll talk about some elements of that game, a few other things, I'm sure as we get going, but we're just going to kind of bounce around. It's a a menagerie. We called him an azurie of stories, a cornucopia, just a weird assemblage from hard politics to poorly thought out, weird social promotions and of course vehicles who are all like Kit this And by the way, if you listen to this show and you're younger, Kit was the car I have to assume

most people wanted. If you had to pick from your childhood cars that were involved in TV and movies, is it not Kit? And if you don't know what night Rider is, look it up. I'm sure it's some one of the streaming services. I'm trying to ross. Do you think there was a cooler car when we were a kid that you know you would want to have? I was trying to that or the General Lee. Well, you

know what, the general they don't hear me out. Uh, the suspension system on that thing is amazing for anyone who's ever broke a tyrod just hitting a curve, but generally is not alive, do you know what I mean? My problem with Kit growing up was that he was the voice was English, yeah, and it was a putty yeah. And I but it's like that's your iPhone now, right, Like you can switch your eye, you

can switch you make Syria British, dude. So it's like, I wonder if the point I'm making is Kit was so advanced, right, maybe that setting was there and that's what the Hoff wanted, And like what do you think Kit should have been though, Like, let's just be honest. He's a he's a Pontiac sports car. There's a little bit of a you get a little bit of the General Lee vibe too. Like if you put a at least rider up in Wyoming where yeah, you know, we're a little

redneck you out there. But if you put a General Lee and then you put Kit, but you put the base vehicles of what they were, people would be equally as excited. So are you are you implying the kits should have like a Southern accent, or like I hear you, But trying to think of any other any other vehicles of the era that I'm missing. I guess Herbie was out there, and you know Herbie's Herbie's alive. Oh, and then there's Stephen King's Christine. But I don't feel like you want that

car. No, I think it would have to be kid Man. Well, anyway, one of my favorite lines was put out by the Washington Mass Transit whatever whatever people. For those of you in DC or who were passing through Reagan Airport, this may have been of interest to you. But once again, just like that suv that tried to murder everybody, but only murdered some people up in Wisconsin. Right that that s that out of control suv. Hell, apparently we got more of those on our hands. I'll explain

coming up CaCO Day Radio program. All right, good good morning, and half being Monday. If brod such a thing when it didn't seem you and depending on where you are, not much more or even less. But you know, we got to get through this thing. And news news it was a happening. The the writing pretty much on the wall when the announcement was made that they were rescheduling Sunday slot appearances by Ron DeSantis. So on Saturday, he was supposed to appear on some of the Sunday at least what two

of them. I believe he was gonna do two of them. And then he's like, now we're not gonna make the interview. And that's a really good indicator that sums up, and sure enough, DeSantis' DeSantis campaign has decided that they're going to suspend the campaign and indoors Donald Trump. I one thing it sounds and I'm just trying to piece this together because I saw Trump say

something like he didn't take DeSantis phone call. Is I'm I'm a little unclear on that and the reporting that's the that's because that's what it's making it sound like. Or did he not take it at a particular time. I mean, I get that there was beef and then I saw Trump's like he's he's retiring sanctimonious. The whole thing is surreal to me, and I think to most normal people, right like, how do you go from that to do you know, stumping together? That's what I and it's not that that hasn't

been a thing in politics. But this, this is a different kind of thing, right here, man, This is a different Remember the Ted Cruise thing is the best example of this. Hey, how how if your Ted Cruz that you come out and stump for stump for Trump is beyond me considering the wife thing and the maybe your dad might have helped murder JFK like that, that all that blows my mind. But obviously there was no love loss

between Trump and DeSantis, and most definitely between their supporters. And I thought, I thought, you know, maybe there would be that big transition on social in the same way that the two candidates are making it appear. But I was wrong. Now it's just Trump supporters going, see, I told you, see, I told you you're guys so stupid. And it's like, well, wait a sec, didn't Your guy wants his endorsement and he got it, So like, are you undermining the endorsement? All of it's

so weird to me, And yet that's where we are. And Nikki Hayley, I guess is the you know, is it for now? And it doesn't sound like she's interviewing for a cabinet position, as Trump basically said that she has no timber, but things change so damn fast. I don't know, So let me be the first to ask this question, just having the

benefit of being first in the lineup. This scenario that has caused several high profile individuals, including our own former governor Pat McCrory, to say that if this happens, then an alternative candidate will emerge, and whether that's Dean Phillips up in Minneapolis who sounds like he wants to go third party, or a laundry list that probably includes a couple of these Lincoln Project idiots on the Republican

side, I don't know what that looks like. But the scenario they said that they would not let pass without a challenge was a Trump Biden rematch, and I don't know that that's ever looked closer to reality than it does right now. In fact, I would be now, what do you think the odds are on that? Because remember it's not just you know, I saw some people trying to handicap this, and like, you know, the chances

are that there's gonna be these two unless Trump gets thrown in jail. And I'm like, all right, Like, I mean, if if we're just making a list of what IF's fine, we'll make a what if list? What if Joe Biden forgets to I don't know, breathe or you know what I'm saying, or they there is this this transit, this health transition, a more obvious one, yes, even more obvious than what you're dealing with right now. Like I I don't I don't know what the percentage of that

is. Here's what I do know. Are are you all ready for this? How do you think this is gonna go? I had, like, I got the polling, I get it, but there's like there's a billion years to election day. It's like two hundred and and just had to actually looked it up this morning so I could say this. And then I closed the window because I'm dumb, all right, So, uh, election day is to all right? Well whatever, Nope, I closed it all the

way think two hundred and seventy some days or whatever. All right, And so is this what we is this what we we're excited about or terrified about? Or what do you think is gonna happen with the third party stuff? I mean, this is your first chance to speculate. I know it's early on a Monday, eight eight, eight nine three four seven eight seven four. You're not gonna vote for anybody. You're gonna You're gonna write and ross and then write king next to it, and soil and water super I mean,

what are you gonna do? Cause that is right now what both campaigns are gonna be doing. They're gonna be taking this. You know, they be checking the boxes, figuring out, all right, what's my percentage of this, percentage of that, and they will go and well, you look at you look over in the Biden campaign already they're realizing that they're losing support, you know, the historically ninetieth percentile support in some places by black voters

who feel like they've been deprioritized. And all you have to do is sit there and look at Chicago with black residents of Chicago and migrants, right, those are crazy. Those were crazy protests that folks were holding, and they were holding them in the shadow of Barack Obama's presidential Library grounds. So like, you got you got something cooking there, man, you got a little problem, you got a little issue. And so that's what the campaigns are

going to be looking at. But then you jam a third party person in there. So the likely scenario is is a rematch. Are you happy? What are you gotta do? Eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four and can get some calls? All coming up right after your news one O six one FM Talk and ninety four to five w PTI, two stations driving the best end talk. This is Casey O Day and Carolina's Morning News all right six thirty five

and Good Morning kc O Day Radio program. So, uh yeah, with Ron DeSantis suspending his campaign over the weekend, and uh really, I mean the New Hampshire polling even before the DeSantis announcement for Nikki Haley, I mean, obviously I suspect you'd pick some up, but still it's it's looking more and more likely that it will be Trump Biden. And if that's the case, we've had individuals and groups say they're going to run third party candidates.

We have independent third party candidates or in this case a Democrat threatening to be a third party in the case of Dean Phillips from Minnesota. So yeah, So I guess my question is what is that drive A will people be apathetic and they're just like, screw this noise. I'm not even going to vote or will it now people be so motivated that it surpasses even the turnout of the last time. What does it mean for you? Eight eight eight nine

three four seven eight seven four. That'll get you on the show. We'll start with Jamal, Good morning, Jamal, what's up? Hello? Jamal? All right, well that's nice. Ron's am I having trouble with that phone? There He's going on there we go? All right, Ah, all right, Jamal. Sorry, it's Monday, so something's got to go wrong at some point immediately. What's say you, sir? Can you hear me loud and clear? Yes, yes, we can. Okay, Kasey, you know I'm a Trump support. I'm a dihod Trump support. You

know I've been riding with Trump's s twenty fifteen. Rod Decantaz dropping out helps Trump more than it does Nicky Haley because with Donald Trump and with Ron Decontaz in a race, it's a lot of people who support Ron Decontez. Second truice is Trump. The majority is Trump. Nikky Haley was hoping he stayed in so she can continue to squeak back. I will never Nikki because of the neocom But and I want to say this, any Trump supporter who is

not saying Trump Descentes twenty twenty four, it's crazy. Because President Trump, I love him to death. You know that. I've been supporting him, always have. But a lot of people were uncomfortable with the box Stock band and the COVID lockdown and the Fauci's out and doctor Fauci, you know, stuff like that. Ron Descenttez offers that, hey, that libertarian conservative. So for me, yes, he dropped out. Yeah, and he really didn't go out to Rondocentez like he did Ted Cruz. All he ever said

about harand Decentz was he went on a campaign over shoe lifts. Man. I mean, it's a different it's a different, it's a d it's a different nothing. And then there was the cancer stuff, like you know, he didn't go out to his wife. He didn't go out for rnder and Dead's wife like he did Ed Cruise. He just called Ted Cruizer's wife ugly, you know what I mean, Like, because again it's it's it's as oranges like our Arguably it's worse to imply that your father that your dad helped

kill a president, also killed Kennedy. Yeah, here's my favor what DoD what the president Trump did when he came to Ron Decents, he recognized that Ron Descants is a governor who has done a lot and has been good, and that is a greater help to his ticket than ever before. Because remember in twenty sixteen election, a lot of Republicans didn't turn out because it was like, oh, they didn't like the way Donald Trump thought. Donald Trump

in this twenty twenty fourth was more humble. He was more against other Republicans. He was more relaxed. He was more, Hey, I know y'all against me, but we you know, I'm gonna come out. I see a little bit, but I'm not gonna come after that bad. So I personally feel it should be wrong descent is as his VP because Ron descentaiz gives him that card that he needs. Other than Ted Cruz or Rampaul, those are the only two that can unite the Republican party to whether that never Trump

is only eight to six percent that don't do nothing. You we have the first night debate well, and the first to be I want to be clear here though, the the the slice the slice that I that I don't know that I that concerns me is not the never trumpers. I think that it's

we know pretty much what that is. But if I'm doing uh, you know, if I'm doing statistics for the Trump campaign and I'm watching I'm watching some real die I heard Trump supporters who are very active on social media posting crap like I saw over the weekend where they're telling Disantus people, good you traders, you're out, don't you know? You know what, you know what? That stuff's got to stop. If your Trump's campaign, you got

to you gotta put the kaish on that man, you know what. Cac When I there are certain people on Twitter and on Facebook and YouTube, I will not go on their show. I will not share this stuff because of crap like that one. You want to you agree, you agree that that's a problem, right, okay, all right here totally one hundred. I cannot stand them. I don't care if they are Trump supporters, but these

people are sick. I tell people, you cannot worship Donald Trump. You can love him, yes, you can support them, but when you saw some of this crap some of these people, some of these pictures, they doesn't show President Trump standing beside Jesus and all this I'm like, watch it. You playing blasphemy, you playing worship God. Don't like competition. I've had to tell so called Trump supports just like, what are you guys doing.

You guys are going to make him fall? Stop me. I haven't had to sit there and stay that cac Yeah, you cannot stand them. I'm with you on the religious imagery, but I did enjoy watching Trump put on the boxer's body and the media doing, oh yeah, that's pretty cool. Now that's fun. Yeah yeah, but Brian Stelter's head explode. So but you know that's just all right, Jamal, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I got just real quick. I'm sorry. One last thing you wanted to say, we have to unite. It has to be

a wrong. It has to be a Trump descent, a Trump Paul or Trump cruise. That's the only way when you unite the whole Republican Party. We beat your body, all right, Thank you, Jamal, appreciate the call. And also I saw people run around to go, well, it can't be just answers because they both live in the same state in this particular provision one. It doesn't doesn't mean it like that, but more importantly, like it's you can change residency. This is not a it's more on the

on the nomination side and the delegates side. But I'm not going to get into all the complexity of it. But it's not really it's there, it's it's perfectly workable. But I don't know, man, it's I think that's

a huge I think that's a huge problem. And it's you know, and it's a it's a very contextualized, specific version of that problem where you're you know, you're alienating certain people out in the same way that you know, the Democrat Party is having to struggle with being uh yoked with the insane Palestinian protester folks right because you know, they're trying to walk that that tightrope. Man on on Friday, I'm going, I'm over I'm over by NC State

University, by the Bell Tower where they got the big roundabout there. I was coming. I was down in Kerry meeting some friends at a restaurant down there, and I get done, so I'm driving back and I got right to the roundabout and I had come off Western and I can't remember what the

name of that street is. But so I'm coming from the south that right to meet where it meets Hillsboro. The car in front of me enters the roundabout and stops, and you know you're supposed to keep moving once you've made the decision to enter, you should be able to free flow to wherever you're going. As much as I hate roundabouts, I know that. So I owner the roundabout because I see no traffic coming from the left, and obviously you're right, you're you're headed right. I see this guy stop, and

I'm like, this is a moron who's never been in a roundabout. That's the thought that crosses my head. And then within about an eighth of a second, I realized I totally misjudged this dude in front of me. And the reason we all just screech to a halt is because twenty trucks loaded up just like you used to see with all the Trump flags at like multiple levels,

like six of them on there. Like these trucks and a couple cars were in a high speed like presidential procession going westbound on Hillsboro Street, goetting to the roundabout, not stopping and by the way, not not slowing down any one micron less than they need to to not tip their vehicles not yielding right of way, damn near hitting the dude in front of me, causing

me to think, screech up onto the side. There two other cars on the other side, and they're doing their blowing through, their honking their horn with their flags, violating all of the traffic laws, but also creating an incredibly unsafe situation considering all it takes is one student who's had three beers to walk out of you know, the old Mitch's front door there and get whacked with this flotilla of fools at another word, uh starts with a f for

the flotilla, but I had to radio it, so that's the one you get. And I talked to a police buddy of mine because I called him. I'm like, dude, what the hell is going on with this? And he's like, that's the thing. They just keep making the loops doing all that stuff. Man. Well that you know, that's the balancing act that the Democrats are having too. And like, I got friends who are who vehemently disagree with most of my positions, but even they're like, oh

my gosh, I did not want anything to do with this. Yeah, but did you realize it was such a significant chunk of people. That's why this thing's going to be wild, man like, because apathy in a way is an endorsement. Apathy is an endorsement in the same way that people are apathetic about Hillary. That that's something that the Democrats figured out. Now, I don't know how you would be excited about her, but you know, that's something you gotta do. And I wonder if that's going to be the

big thing that we're having a look at this year. I don't know, what do you think eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four just blowing down Hillsboro Street. I mean, at least they weren't stopped in the street, So maybe this is like, you know, be careful what you wish for. But I was hot, man, I don't get I don't really get road ragey, but that. I don't know why that irritated me so much much, just blowing through there, And I guess maybe it's just

that imagery. And also if it was a bunch of truck trumps Trump trucks, remember what happened when Trump trucks drove by the fair at the proper speed in the proper lane. Do you remember people just losing their mind when you have these Trump parades and they were calling it, you know, essentially this is hitler stuff. In well way, I didn't even got to the boats

yet. You know, at least with the boats. I find that most of the people if you go into a marina, most of the people I deal with are not hardcore leftists, unless it's like a weird catamaran place. Not that I don't like catamarans, but you know what I mean. Like, you know, some hippies who got a cheap sail boat. They're going

to go around the world while they film it for YouTube. Like most boat owners, at the very least, they may be Democrats, but they're not crazy because you know, mentally they have to associate with owning something that there's no physical, there's no fiscal reason you should buy unless you just like burning

money. Oh but yeah, ross do you remember when, like they were writing op eds in New York Times, when one lady would view an American flag on a truck right and she was she it gave her an emotional response. That's that's the craziness that we're that we're dealing with. And I promise if it was Trump trucks doing that, twice the speed limit, running people off the road at roundabouts. I have a feeling the city of Raleig would crack down and quick and by the way, good drive around all you want,

but you don't get to do that. All right, six forty eight, Hang on the show. After the show is on the iHeartRadio app. Search case O Day for the podcast on the iHeart Radio app. All Right six fifty five and welcome back case O Day Radio program coming. I tweeted about this, tweeted about this at the at the end of the week. Basically on Friday, I am just hanging out eating some lunch on downtown at

a restaurant in Raleigh. I'll tell you where I was. It was at Raleigh Times, and I'm in If you've been in there, they have like rooms, they have a bunch of rooms, so they have like the main bar restaurant, and then they have like more restaurant rooms and then pave it up so there's like five different places you can sit in there. And I needed I needed to do some stuff and then we had our we had like

a like a team's thing. So I go in there and I wander into like one of the back rooms and kind of sit over in the back and set up cause I don't want to disturb anybody. I'm not really gonna have to talk, I hope on this thing, and I want to get my lunch. And so I go back there mine of my own business. I'm the only one in there. And I'm telling you this because I I didn't

I don't ask for some things to happen. And about midway through, this table sets up and the whole room is open, and they set them right next to me, which, by the way, I've never understood that. How many times have you been into a restaurant and there's only like two or three tables. You walk in and there's fifty tables to choose from, and what do they do? They put you right next to the baby, and

it's like you're looking around. Okay, it's not always a baby, but like it's always weird to me. I guess there's probably a restaurant reason. I don't know, and I can't help but hear the conversation because it's not it's it's a very quiet room and uh there's nobody's whispering. And it was

just something that just really irritated and frustrated me. And it was a statement that was made and then agreed upon and and chortled over by one of the uh, one of the folks at the table who identified himself as a history teacher. That's that's the extent that I know and it but it was the larger point. It wasn't just about the individuals and uh. He was talking about something that a kid, one of his very young students, said to

him, and it was just the way that it was described. And I understand it's you know, it's it falls a little into locker room talk because people share work frustrations that in a way that you wouldn't do it in front of a client, but when you, uh, the client in this case is the is the public. And the recounting of the conversation with the kid just drove me nuts. And again, I don't even have kids. So I'll share that with you, and there I have partial because the conference thing

I'm on is also recording. So anyway, all right, we're on that in the moment. Good morning, everybody, and welcome it. He is seven oh six here on the CaCO day or Ado program, Monday edition. YadA YadA, I renumber two to orient you it's don't wear shorts outside that If that's how cool, we'll talk to Ray coming up later, or you can. I thought people walking around in shorts this week. I don't know

what's up with that. But there was something else I saw this weekend and one it irritated me just so much, so much, And I think it also, as I have a chance to sit and kind of reflect on it, is we get lost in this debate when we're trying to justify something that, regardless of the outcome, if it's something that we want to do, we're going to rosey it up. And I think most everyone's guilty of that,

right. Sometimes it's this little stuff like you know, like I have a different idea about how I should do something like this, and then like the maybe the route you're taking somewhere is not working, and your spouse is sitting there like wants to say I told you so, but they still love you, so they're not gonna and and you just kind of like, no, this is great. You know you're making the best of it, but

everyone knows what's up. And then there is this where it is of a religious variety and it doesn't have to be organized religion but I mean the passion is so there that I feel like you're ignoring some important data points that are right in front of you. And so and I tweeted about this one was very interesting. Is it got a lot of traction, but it also got a lot of these accounts that you only ever see right around election time,

spreading things that are not accurate. So I'm sitting there and I'm just trying to eat luck, I'm trying to do two things, eat lunch and be on a zoom style call. We use teams, but anyway, So and I specifically go and I have headphones right because I'm not that guy, and I'm not thinking that I have to talk other than just a couple things real quick. And so I'm sitting there doing all this. It's amazing. I love technology, and I'm doing it from a table in the back room of

this restaurant. And lo and behold, this table gets set right next to me, which again some of your email. And they're like the reason that they do that when you walk into an empty restaurant, if there's only like three tables out of fifty, they'll all be next to each other is they may have one waitress. I get that, But can I have like a table of separation that would be great, right, Ah, But I digress. So I'm sitting there and I'm not in I'm not talking to those folks.

I'm really not even paying attention to what they're saying, except my mind's drifting, drifting a little as I'm listening to a presentation portion of this thing that I'm on, and I can clearly hear them, and I hear something that just irritates me so much but also should be a learning moment one of

the individuals. Oh and just to be clear, because I mentioned that there is recording, The reason that there is partial recording of some of this is because our teams meetings record and so when I have my mic open, it's picking up some of the audio. So because people are like, oh, you're secretly illegally recording people, no, I'm not. Unless every influencer posting a video of them looking at their meal going this is going to be so good, look at me is also doing that. The difference is is I'm

not pointing a camera and I'm not sitting there trying to do that. I have an iPad, Okay, I have an iPad in front of me. I'm watching this thing and that's the reality of it. So just so we're clear here. And then I hear one of the individuals at the table who is talking about being a history teacher and specifically addressing a question from a young student, and the student the student came up to him and I don't know

specifically what they were learning about. I'm assuming they had to do with Civil War, slavery, and you know, all of it. And he said that the kid was very troubled and came up and almost in tears, one to know why all of his family were bad people. Now here's the deal. I don't care whether you believe me or don't believe me. I did snap a photo though I did do that. I'm very childish, but I

just wanted to have it so had the metadata all that on there. But it was the way that the question was answered, because I can understand where a kid who's trying to comprehend really complex stuff, even stuff that we don't disagree, should be absolutely taught. I think kids should should know about, especially living in the southern part of the US, should have a little working

knowledge of that. You know, that era of our history. But it was the way not it wasn't just the response, but it was the way he was retelling how he responded to him, where he's he's laughing at the kid, right, and and within the group there they kind of gaggle up and they're like, wow, this is what happens when parents, you know, don't want us to add this is this is history, and this is and and it is kind of but kind of not like, how do you

know what's up with that kid's relatives? And it spoke to more specifically this this concept of uh, you know, inherent you know, white privilege and racism and continued subconscious racism and trigger words and you could tell you're getting there, but also the idea that anybody who was in the southern United States, if this kid, I guess had relatives at the time, and again I

don't know his family tree, is it fair too? Is it fair to him to be walking around and is it responsible teaching for him to be walking around with the impression that he and everyone who's ever come before him and his family tree are inherently bad people. Now this is anecdotal, And I was almost more more irritated with the with the callous kind of response, which may have been a little braggy for his you know, the folks he was eating

with, but they thought it was funny. I did not think it was funny because I'm imagining this kid, and I'm like, is the kid like, here's where this works? Like is the kid's last name? Hitler? R? Right? That's that's the part that that gets me because as a history teacher, this guy knows a few things. One non participation by Southern

states and individuals within the South did was not not met with consequences. So while yes, you had as you do, you had landowners, you had folks that owned a whole lot of other people who, through that ownership largely were able to be exempted from having to participate in combat, right because they had to be They had to be there to manage the production of the food and other stuff. So the more slaves you owned, the less responsibility you

had to fight in you know, in combat. But also remember what happened in North Carolina during that time when other states were in and North Carolina wasn't. Essentially people were just passing through on both sides, taking what they wanted. In some areas, mandatory conscription happened and if you did not penalties up to and including death, and the majority of individuals who fought for the South

did not own slaves. Chalk it up to the classic manipulation of the haves and have nots in the military service, or how you want to justify it with your own little scenario. But to not recognize that, and to have a student who's clearly distressed, clearly distressed over what he's learning and and the way he's processing it, was it your intention that he knows that him and

everyone in his family are bad people. Now I wasn't privy to the conversation with the student, just the retelling of it, but it just made me so angry. And it made me angry because this is the net effect. This is what some people are concerned about saying. Look, I mean, this is you get this up in kids' heads and it's almost as if you're not providing any context or nuance or trying to get to the bottom of it. And that is roundly rejected. Oh, this is this is just basic

history. Well, if it was basic history, I don't know if that's the way be coming back at your student unless you agree that the curriculum should end with the student feeling that way, and I and and to some extent, I'm guessing here, but I don't know what else I'm supposed to guess. And then there was a little conversation about you know, it's like, this is what happens when parents don't want this. You know, they don't want to teach, they don't want to teach history, they don't want to

teach racism. These kids are doomed. I know that we have I know that we have teachers, We even have history teachers that listen to this show. And I am sorry you're surrounded with these individuals because now part of your job, especially as they age upwards, when you see that and you rightly recognize as somebody who does want to educate kids, but also wants to be there for to do so in a manner that is either great appropriate, Right,

there's good. There's gonna be plenty of times when he's writing a you know, some sort of thesis for his doctorate to get into the real hard scrabble stuff. But a young an elementary age student who is who's convinced that his existence and his family's existence is a net negative. If you have curriculum churning that out and look, if you can say this kid's confused, then correct him. But you can't. You can't open up school choice all the

way fast enough when I see stuff like that. So that's the gist of it. I tweeted many of you were interested, that's what it was. And again part of it was me, I'm going to sit on another zoom callar team's call. Uh. But also it was the response to it with the yeah, good, there's a little reaction Johnny, Yeah, your parents, your parents are going to teach you that because we just explained to you everybody, Yeah, you guys all suck. And the only out there was

like, you know, it's Johnny Mangela or something. But I didn't get that impression. I think it was more of a blanket thing. And I don't know who the kid was, and I don't know where the guy taught either. It was in the middle of the day, but I think it also it sounded like they had been at something there was a teacher training thing

or whatever. But that's that's the attitude. And then the responses I get there on the Twitter are like, oh, well, oh, well, you know this is uh, they don't you know they don't teach the critical race theory, and and like people are bringing receipts too, Like there's some there's some folks on Twitter who are like within the education system that are pointing out curriculum items that are meant to introduce those kinds And you know me,

I'm like, teach history, but teach all of it and teach it where appropriate. There's things you're going to have to be in high school to really comprehend the details of what's going on. And so when you're in elementary you're doing I understand it's going to be broader, but you can't lean in on

one thing when obviously you're churning out those results. And then you do not recognize that an eight year old who thinks that their entire self being, which it's self worth, which is formulating right now, is derived of evil. That's where I draw the line. All right, seven nineteen here on the CaCO Day radio program, maybe you're angry because you didn't say something when you what did you want me to do? You want me to go? What? That's because I saw somebody else put it, what do you want me

to do? You want me to go? Hey? Hey, Sorry, I'm just sitting over here trying to do this thing. You're an a hole, and here's why that Just then I'm out of the restaurant and that guy. You're not going to change that guy's mind. It's far more powerful to sit here and relay this to you in an anecdotal fashion, because I know that there are people within the education system that these are things that they now

have to confront. If you're the next teacher in line, and you actually care about your students and specifically your students' mental health and well being, now you got to undo some of that damage. And the same way the gal I used to day do top maths, she'd get kids in there didn't know the numbers, like you know what primary number was, and she's like, how did you get passed up? To me? Right? This is something that good educator struggle with. And this this strikes me as one more thing

in there, and it was. It's one of those I get. It's one of those things that makes me glad I don't have kids, as horrible as that sounds, and I actually like kids. I mean not when they're throwing pancakes and there two, but you know, whatever it comes with it, but I don't want to. I don't want to see anyone's kid treated

that way. And whether and and remember, so much of this is bore from d the dehumanization of individuals, and and we as a society moving to not have that be a thing, right, so that no guy is so nobody's got to stand there with a fire hose near them in the nineteen sixties holding a sign that says I am a man. Right, We roundly reject that. We don't want that. And that's why it's so important that if you think, if you see things swinging a different way out of like political

necessity, that's why people are passionate. That's why they're concerned. And I hope that kid's okay, and I hope that you know, the next teacher cares about the emotional well being of their students. And I can hear people right now going, well, look, sometimes the truth hurts. And again, show me, show me the kids. You know family tree and how

is you know it's a Bedford Forrest's nephewers. So you know what I'm saying, Because if you're just going to broadbrush and broad stroke, you're doing the same stuff. I know that you've heard this. You're doing the same stuff that this teaching is purported to want to counteract. So anyway, eight eight

eight nine three four seven eight seventy four, will be back. This is one O six one FM Talk in the Triangle and News Talk ninety four to five w PTI and the Triad. All right, seven thirty five and welcome back Pcoday Radio program. All right, Well that was the emails. I expect it. You know, I can just sit on here and just stream about one individual. But it's it's not about that. It's it's that I

don't want that level of callousness existing in the shaping of young minds. And also I understand that people get jaded on stuff, and also people when they're talking to their friends may not be one hundred percent truthful in the way that they retell a story. But that's why I brought it up, because I just I don't want that to be anywhere in there and this in the state.

I don't want any teacher to think any student is boomed unless there is an individualized reason, okay, and an individualized reason is not a disagreement in the parents wanting certain topics to be taught at a certain time in a kid's life and they can be taught with specific it. With specificity, we'll use

that word. I went to school with a kid who was a direct traceable descendant of Benedict Arnold, and I think we were in like sixth grade when somehow, I don't remember how they figured it out, or say his father figured it out or whatever. And then a teacher like used it as a teachable thing, but like but in context, like and I that was never like we made jokes at him because he was kind of in our he was on the football team, but he was also in our like our little friend

group for a while. He ended up moving maybe to Britain, I don't know, No, he moved to Sheridan. But like that's a that's a specific, teachable, individualized, contextual thing, and that's cool. I would find that fascinating. I have, like, we have a couple relatives that are of note in uh, you know, if you look at some of these settle settling of the West accounts, especially the journals out of Fort Foucarney,

like that's as close as we got. But that's fine, that's fine, And so like it's one thing to teach and I'm gonna get to the calls here. I know I'm ramblin, but I just I don't want that attitude anywhere near kids. I don't want anywhere near them. I don't want anything that is a is a hindrance. And I don't mean that from a helicopter standpoint. Right, You've gotta have to face adversity and challenges, so

you have to set standards and you have to have expectations. I told you, the least favorite phrase my mom used to say to me that would get me every time was consequences for your actions because I knew she was right, but teenage Meetia would never admit that. But I, you know, I feel like I'm a better person for that. So that's that's why we bring

this stuff up. This is not me knocking on teachers, which I battle with because in dating the teacher as long as I did, like a big chunk of our friend group was colleagues, young and old, and I would say that you know they were they were politically spread, and most of them were pretty apolitical. Like when they talked to me what I did for a living, they wanted to talk about the sports aspect of it, and I felt that they were genuinely in it, but they, you know, to

to be teachers. They enjoyed doing what they're doing. So that's not my goal. But my goal is to eradicate the same attitude that permeated public education decades ago that we decided we needed to work on and not allow that to swing way too far the other way. All right, Sharon, thanks for

hanging on. You're up next, Go ahead, Sharon Kasey. I was calling to remind you that the teachers that we have are products of the education system in the last two or three decades, and the process of re educating the American people has produced a teacher who believes what this particular history teacher was telling. I don't know if they were other teachers, but they believe it. And we have to understand that they have graduated from this system and they

are now teaching our children. We have parents who have graduated under this system and they are raising their children according and so, I you know, it's it's not what I want, it's not what you want, but we we have a really serious issue with this, and uh, it's a rewriting of our history. So you know, they believe what they are saying our teachers do. Now, I do agree with you that they're meant. I'm sorry, I want to get on to your other point, but I want to

ask you something on this. What did okay, what subject and age did you teach? Well? I taught from second grade all the way through the seventh grade at vary in various ways, so you know, I at the gamut. Yeah, what what subject mattered? Did you do? History? Because I did? I did? I did. I agree that it's second

grader and a seventh grader learning about World War Two. There would be very different syllabus for that, right because one second, yeah, okay, yes, that's literally that's like the small thing I'm asking for in this situation. So I'm sorry. What was your other point, man? Well, the point is that our history has been rewritten, and it's there are people trying

to show us that it has been. Of course, they're having a hard time getting through, you know, as far as informing the American people that

this. I mean seriously, there they are rewriting history, and they are concentrating on certain things, and there's a lot of social justice activism that's going on, and it you know, I just need I just need to remind you that the teachers who are coming out of these universities and colleges are are they have learned the way that the these professors are are you know, teaching them history. Well let me let me just say this just because I got

to do weather here in just a moment sharing. But yeah, there are a lot of there are a lot of the group of teachers I just talked about. This wasn't that long ago. This was in the mid two thousands, so the most of them are are probably less than five years into their career, and half of them wouldn't end up being there after that because of the way the union stuff works in Minnesota, and it's crazy, and they

couldn't get tenure and but whatever. They they all were products. Most of them went to the same university that my girlfriend at the time did, and it was pretty liberal, and yet most of them rejected that right they they they had their own mindset. It was like anybody else. It was. It was it's much more complex. So I don't want to give up hope. I just want to pick out individual things and recognize that you're right it. The more the more that you infiltrate the education of those who will then

educate the more likely they are to expouse what you're telling them. I don't disagree, Sharon, I got to I got to go to break, But I really appreciate you calling in. Okay, Okay, thank you for that. Yep. Yeah, sure, it's not wrong, but I wreck you know, people think for themselves, and to me, it's just like if I knew that the net effect of what what I was doing and thinking was

a student believing this, and it was more than one student. Right, they may there's I will I will leave open that there's some context and maybe I didn't hear I would take a hard look at what I'm doing because I don't want any kid walking around like that. So I don't want any kid walking around period today because they'll freeze to the pole when they try to like it, just like in that movie what are you doing? Man? Stop this sillyness. It's almost gone. They'll be gone soon. One more morning,

just this morning. That's gonna get mild. There is ross okay right here today we're in a fun fact today, by the way, you want to hear it, yeah, sure, go ahead. Did you know that the Detroit Lions have more NSC championship games than the Cowboys do this century. That is hilarious because my daughter actually just sent me that Sorry, she just sent me that same exact Thank Dallas our longest droughts of not making the NBFC title game, Washington Commanders and the Dallas Cowboys. Hey, I have a

serious question though, Why are you guys keep the McCarthy man? Why why do you hold on to that dude? I think at this point, I think he and Dak right off into the sunset together. That's what I would do. I would say, let's not give Dak the big increase, and he probably who knows what's gonna happen. And I think they say, all right, this year was supposed to be it, but guess what next year?

We really mean it? Ninth ninth times the charm, twenty eight times the chart ross here, he's okay, he's dealing what he's dealing with? Computer issue right now? Oh yeah. Well. The first thing I thought of was I'd say, why you forget it's Monday in a radio station. Everything's up highre everything's yeah, exactly from the wheel that'll yes fire outside it

will right cold. Seeing teens and twenties, and there was some record low high temperatures in Ashville on Saturday, and now everybody getting back into the mile there, mid up for forties today. Good looking day for January day, and then the rest of the week is kind of yeah, as clouds increase. It'll be much milder Tomorrow morning near thirty, but near fifty. Tomorrow

afternoon. It might be a little rain, but the better chance will come in Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, scattered showers around, maybe even a couple of thunderstorms. Listen to these high temperatures on Wednesday, load of mid sixties, but by Thursday and Friday we could be around seventy degrees. Seventy degrees. I mean, we are gonna have the rain element to it, but it doesn't look like all rain, more like showers. The heaviest rain right now. It's like stay west, yeah, not bad. Okay, all

right, well we'll chat the next hour, sir. Okay, all right, there you go, raced agic from the Weather Channel. Seventy that's just that's crazy. As you walk out the door this morning, think it might be seventy in a few days. All right, coming up, we're gonna chat with State Treasurer Dale Fallwell, also goodnatorial candidate. We got a laundry list items there on both sides of those two titles. And what well is going on in Phoenix? You'll understand why I'm asking, and the president has

a reminder for you. It's all coming up. Hang on smart Talk all day ninety four to five w PTI and the Triad and one six one FM Talk in the Triangle. All right, good morning soon, MP June at ODA radio program. Oh dude, yeah, if you're sending Ross sniders talking something off there. They call them food truck rodeos, which alwayshund was the dumbestad. Yeah, I've never seen it before, but it sounds it looks like it's going to be really cool. But I don't mind food truck.

It's like, you know, give me delicious food. I'm kidding with that. Yeah, they called it a food truck rodeo. So I had like major car issues driving into work this morning at like four in the morning, which so at first, segond it took forever for the car to the frost. Then the radio wouldn't work, like this is really weird, just would work. They would turn on, but there was no signal in the station.

Some driving in then whenever I would stop at a red light, don't wait, hold on, hold on, dude, do you ever see the movie Michael Clayton, I have not Okay. In Michael Clayton George Clooney, he gets in his car and his radio won't work and it's because they put a car bomb in there. But then he gets out to look at some

horses and then the bomb explodes and doesn't kill him. So spoiler, So like you know, just saying that, like it's probably good you didn't see that movie anyway, So the radio's not working and then you're off and then what well no, So then I'm stopped at like red lights on a cap no and falls a noose in Atlantic, And every time I would accelerate like it would like sputter, like it was gonna stall out, but then it

would go. Then I drove to the radio station, the power steering when I stopped and like tried to go like froze up, and then the braid the ones they started, Like once I restarted the vehicle, the radio started working again. So I drove around the parking lot a few times. Seems fine, but like I'm super stressed about getting home like it's not like the cost of the possible repair, right, No, it's getting stopped or like stalling out and being like stranded at a red light. So I'm like super

stressed about getting home today. Yeah, I'm sorry. But it was also like sixteen or seventeen degrees that when I left the house and it hadn't been like driven since like Friday, and I do need an oil change I was going to be getting today, So that's fun. You know, I've never been a mechanic, right, but like when I was in high school, like we all had, we all had, you know, it was forord

Er Chevy basically, but it was the standard setup. So like Chevy, it was three point fifty at a four barrel carb on the one that I had, But like I could, I could. I changed a transmission with a friend when I was fourteen. Now granted we had access to like hoists and stuff. Right, I know where you're going with this because now you open up you look under the hood and you're like what am I looking at? I'm like, where is the right dude? Remember that? Remember that

BMW that I had when I was doing the BMW endorsement. So the craziest thing there is. I went to and I remember reading where it was. But then there was a day when somebody needed a jump and I couldn't find the battery. Dude, mine is the same way. And I found out that found out it's in the back, but there's posts in the front, So I mean, we got it. We gotta figure out. I did the same thing, doomed. I don't know. I tried to help my

neighbor down the street and I just gott in this vehicle, right. We had it for like two weeks, and I opened it up and I looked and I'm like, where's the battery. I'm like, and it's like underneath stuff, and it's just like it's a it's a pain to get to him. This sucks. Yeah, the battery on that car is in the back, in front of like one of the back tires, in this weird little spot. But but there's posts under the hood. So I just there was just a moment where I'm like, what the hell am I looking at?

But I would never touch anything on there. With that old Chevy. I changed, I changed that carbureter out, we rebuilt one. I knew the you know, I knew how to properly and the proper firing order. And uh, I mean it was and I was a teenager and you could retain that if I wasn't some doogie howser whiz kid. And now it's like, uh, I don't dare. We talked a few years ago how complicated it was now going to buy windshield wipers, Like, yeah, when you buy

windshield wipers and there's I had to buy some in Boom Yeah. I had to buy some in boone because the winchol wiper was failing and it was raining to beat hell. And I went in there and I'm like, yeah, here's the here's for this car. And he's like, what should the twenty seven thousand? Do you want to make a wall of windshield wipers? I'm like, back in the day there was like one or two. I'll take this one. Can I have the one that matches the other one that's not

broke? How about that? Do you need help installing them? I'm like, no, man, they're Winchild wipers. What are you talking about to get it to my car? And I'm like, I need help installing these? What am I looking at? Well? To be fair, they install them for free if you buy him at the AutoZone or whatever. So I'm like, and it was raining, so I'm like, yes, I need help installing that while I sit in here and be dry. So oh man,

uh that's yeah. No, But to your point, you're right, it's the it's the nightmare scenario of being at a red light with a thousand cars behind you. Your car just go and nah, we're good. And yeah, I'm thinking it'll be better driving home when it's warmer, when it's above freezing. But we'll find out. Yeah. Well, but I was asking about because you used to have a mechanic you go to and he's just like, now he's living on it. He's got his own island in the

crib. He sold the property buried there was a big listener of the show too. He sold the property and they're building like a big food truck hub or something in downtown way Forest. So yeah, man, like the there's a whole lot of it. Was funny. I was talking to some friends that are are almost almost all of them are original Raleigh residents. There were some of the older guys that I played golf with and they had this funny little term is they refer to people getting there he's a clampet. Is this

running joke? Because you have guys who you know, were traditional Southern coverall boys owned you know, like a like a truck yard. But it happened to be anywhere within the five point forty or in downtown Greensboro or whatever. You know what I'm saying. And now people are banging down your door to buy that property from me, and some of the money they're getting it was

just crazy and good for them. I got no beef there, but yeah, you got you got people that were nose of the grindstone their whole life, and and then they sold it and it's now they're now they're on perma vacation, and I don't blame them. All right, We're gonna chat with the treasurer and potentially would be governor. He's not retiring, he's moving forward. They'll fallwell, joins us. Next. Hang on, all right, good morning, everybody, and welcome. It is our number three here on.

You're very chilly and kind of Monday, but you know it'll be seventy at some point this week, so I guess we get you have something to live for. But we got a lot going on, and obviously we are from a political and campaign standpoint, we are into a very busy news cycle.

You saw over the weekend obviously what happened to the presidential race as DeSantis put his campaign on hold, and it's looking more and more like it's going to be a rematch of twenty twenty, and it's the number of campaign ads is hopping up, and we're quickly going to hit that sassuration point where we start yelling at the TV. I don't know that's what I do, but

we got a long way to go. And here Stateside, obviously we have a governor's race, so big, big big races, lots of congressional complexity and nuanced stories that are out there. But government also trucks on right, and we have so many things that we're dealing with. So I want to hit this from two different points. The guests we have is well, you know, Dale fall well, state treasurer, but also gubernatorial candidate. And I want to start with your day job, sir, and then we'll start

talking about the aspirational office. How are you doing this morning? I'm doing fantastic, Casey. Thank you for having me on. Absolutely, So let's let us start local. And I want to start on a topic. Just talk to one of your opponents about this, obviously in his capatity as lieutenant governor. But it's so weird. But you both hail from the trying and tryad excuse me. And so I want to talk about the death of this Greensboro Watch commander who wasn't even on duty, was just going above and beyond

while sitting at a sheets. Do you feel to the extent that you're off as the powers that your office has, but is part of your larger role in the apparatus that is North Carolina government, that we are doing right at the state level for our slain and fallen first responders. Where are you at

on this well? I believe we have advocated and the General Assembly has appropriated more money for line of death death benefits and actually added an additional benefit, not just for those who unfortunately, for example, would be killed in a car accident, you know, on duty, but then those that are murdered. And a lot of elected officials when Sergeant Knicks was murdered, put out tweets and I was sitting in his service and thinking, you know, what

can I really do for this family? After hearing all these amazing testimonials, and I had our staff look at the statue regarding a lot of duty death, and there's no question that Sergeant Nicks, there's no light switch with law enforcement unless they're sleeping, They're always on, and he was acting in a

way to protect property or people. And that's why I came out last week and suggested that the Industrial Commission of North Carolina, who has this decision, will approve not just a line of duty death, but also for being murdered.

How do we get back to where we were? Well, I should ask this because I'm injecting my own observation, but I think you agree based on statements I've seen from here, we've obviously gone in a We've gone in a very specific direction as it pertains to law enforcement, and a lot of us think it is a negative direction with the defund the police, all cops are bastards, all of that, and there seems to be a lack of

middle ground where we can still want responsibility from law enforcement to respect constitutional rights and do things in a way that the public acquiescens to, but also that we don't have this atmosphere where people think they can go into a sheet steal eighty five dollars worth of modello and kill a cop over it. So where are we at in your opinion, and how do we get back to a

good place. We're in a bad place. And I would say, after hearing all the testimony at Sergeant Nick's funeral, that I just want to remind your listeners that no one hates a bad cop more than the great ones. And there are a lot of great cops, and including Sergeant Nicks. And I think the way that we get back there is we've got to put more humanity and humility into our society. And our criminal justice system is completely broken.

In my opinion. I don't know what the background of these murderers are. It was interesting to me as I was researching what we said last week about this case that as soon as it happened, one of the murderers or one of those that is charged, said, we just killed a cop.

I really don't know how they knew that at that instant, but the fact is in the store I think has said that these people repeatedly come in to do this, and our society is struggle right now because we have what I call conflict entrepreneurs people in this country who are making hundreds of millions and not billions of dollars on keeping our country divided, and we have to bring this back together if we're going to save our union. What. Yeah, well

I have to. Now. I don't know the exact time. I would assume he identified himself when he walked up to the car, but I guess maybe that would be my assumption. But again I'm assuming. I don't know. Regardless, I don't care whether he thought it was a cop or some guy was just sitting there going, hey, you shouldn't steal beer. Fact remains that five shots were fired, and five shots struck the officer and he

was killed. And it's a mentality that and because you see it online or whatever it is, that you can go ahead and get away with this because it's not a big deal. You can. This proves how quickly it escalates to a big deal. We're You're exactly right. And this is why I'm the only candidate for governor who has come out in favor of constitutional carry.

I mean, it's constitutional, That's why they call it constitutional carry. And I'm just reminded when I was ten years old delivering papers in Winston Salem, I saw a license plate on the front of a car. I really didn't know what it meant at ten, but even at sixty five, I'm reminded of this. When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. And

that's why I'm in favor of constitutional carry. And there's just, as I said earlier, not just this horrific event, but there's so much broken about our criminal justice system, our crime lab, so much that needs to be

repaired to restore the confidence in the people that they can be safe. Here's a let's say, let me talk about the crime lab for a moment, because you know, the crime lab really rose to prominence in the world of political discussion with rape kits and obviously the campaign that our ag ran against well yet another individual from the Triad, which was so so wrong they ended up pain of fine over misrepresentation. And now I just saw something from Josh Stein

saying we got to get this caught up. And I guess my question would be, would what what the hell have we been doing for the last eight years, because like, wasn't this a thing that Cooper and Stein said they were going to do. Do we really have a backlog? Is it? Is it a red herring? I mean, what, what is really going on in your understanding? Well, I hope I don't get disinvited from your show, but we suck. You're not going to get if it's broken,

fix it, man. I'm I just want to know the truth. Yeah, well, well the truth is is that it is broken. Uh. The sheriffs across this state have been told over the last several years, do not send samples to the crime lab unless you have a suspect. I just want your listeners to absorb that ridiculousness of that sentence. That's how that is,

how backlogged it is. And whether you talk to Lauren Freeman in Wake County or some of the other larger urban areas, they they're so disgusted with this backlog and the crime lab that they've gone out and created their own crime labs outside of the state of North Carolina. That is completely unacceptable. And the reason this matters to me, and I'm so passionate with your listeners this morning, is that we are in the check delivery business at the Treasure's Office.

Most of these checks are blessings. Obviously, some are not, like the family of Sergeant Nix's, and what they will ultimately receive because we manage his pension and his four to one and four fifty seven plans as well as this death benefit. And my reason for saying that to you is that, you know, being in the check delivery business, we can't issue a check

until we get a death certificate. You can't run a system with a million people in it, and we can't get a death certificate sometimes because we're weighing on a toxology report. So whether it's Sergeant Nicks or the person who was murdered on the Greenway or some of these other law enforcement officers who have lost their life and the line of duty. I mean, what do people think they were doing when they were murdered? Were they, you know, consuming

drugs or were they drinking bourbon? I mean, it's just ridiculous. In this letter I sent to Josh Stin, this is what we do at the Treasure's office. There's only two people that break in line at the Treasure's office, killed in the line of duty and hospice. With all the retirement papers and everything we do at the Treasure's office, those two people jump aheadline. And that should actually occur at the Corner's office as well as the crime lapse.

So I just want to be abundantly clear. So if there is an outstanding, even the death of Officer Nicks, if there's an outstanding testing, you're not the states not able to provide the benefits that are on the books. Is that what you're saying to me, the subject matter expert, about the testing. But I do know that we require, as you can just imagine, we have to have a death certificate. We now have a death certificate, but we have to have a death certificate in order to process any

benefit for any person. Okay, So if a complex death in this case, obviously, when it's a U suspected homicide, that's there's more. There's more to it than say, somebody who died of a heart attack. And it's okay, all right. I just want to clarify because I'm with you. Look, if it's broke, fix it the dot insanity that we went through in North Carolina. If people don't remember, and you correct me if

I'm wrong. Basically, the DOT was like, hey, how about we spend all the money, but now the road projects we're doing and now we're out of money. Is that an accurate representation of the trouble They found themselves in Yes, and I rang the bell on that four years ago. No one believed me. The General Family didn't believe me. Governor Cooper didn't believe me, the DOT didn't believe me. But uh, they taught me.

It wents to Salem State and un CG to you know, fall of the cash flow, and I determined as the state treasurer, with our qualified staff that they were literally writing checks they couldn't cash. And it's so ironic. During this whole period of time, as you might remember, they were actually buying rail cars that were being sold by Ringling Brothers. They took on a spur line up here in Nash County and parked them so they were appropriate though,

yes, considering the clown cars. And then they caught on fire because they had homeless and the fire juggler in the Yeah. So my point is is that is it? And uh, that's why our governor, former Governor Martin continues to stay doing rights really wrong. But the fallwhell isn't that. I add to what Governor Martin says is that I don't mind being wrong for

the right reasons. And we need to have transparency in our state government because there are going to be mistakes that are going to be made, and any time a mistake has made, it has to be disclosed. And the dot was in the ditch. They've matched out their credit card even now because of the inflation that's coming from the federal government's inability to balance their budget or live

within their means. But that's all. It's absolutely accurate. The State Altar eventually came in and verified everything that I said after a couple of years during COVID. But the fact is is that we need elected The voters deserve to know who they're voting for and get what they're voting for, and we need elected officials who will figure out which right, get it right, and keep

it right. Is that possible on a group basis as polarized as we are, though, I mean, the amount of gaslighting that I read on a regular basis just blows me away. And I don't know that anyone one's committed

to actually getting it right. Yeah, if you set a culture, as I've done at every agency that I've run, including Vision, Plumbent Security, if you set a culture based on the Republican Party that I joined nearly fifty years ago, a culture of conservatism common sense, courtesy, humanity, humility,

and ethics, and answering the telephones. You can reform it. I'm just reminded of about nine years ago when I was reforming the uneplument system and the floors had not been backing in that building for seven months at the worst

quality scores in the United States, even behind guamu and Puerto Rica. I recall about nine years ago a person came around the corner and he didn't touch me, but sort of pointed his finger at me and he said, I've looked you up and I wouldn't vote for you for anything, run except or run this place. He said, you're doing a fantastic job. And it's what happens when you push the power to the state employees. They have such

fantastic ideas. They're always told not to do something, but the state employees have fantastic ideas on how to fix all of these problems. And the elected officials need to have the god given what they've been given by God, the vision to see, to humility, to listen, and the courage not to rage. We can't be a party of rage and hate. We have to be a party of courage and hope to fix what needs to be fixed.

And last kind of last little portion of this. I just have a couple of minutes, you know, let's talk about when we feel we're not getting it right. What is being done and not everything's under the control of the office that you serve or the office that you see. Sometimes it's localized. I'm sure you saw it over in Durham with the bus drivers where they're just like, yeah, we're just not going to pay you. A bunch of

stuff are bad and you see what it leads to the problems there. I've had first responders who are upset about some of the benefit restruct at the state level. I'm sure you're familiar with the first responders retirement stuff and yeah, and then you mentioned also inflation. So I want to know in the last ninety seconds. I'm sorry to have you jammed in there, but how intrinsically

linked your all of these things. What about the concerns of first responders and what does inflation do to the ability of the state to carry out its business. We're in the process of retiring sixty percent of the state debt six zero over eight year period of time. No state, country, or nation,

or local county has ever retired sixty percent of the state debt. But all the billions of dollars we've saved by retiring debt, and all the billions of dollars we've saved at the Treasure's office, about a third of that's been wiped out with inflation. But my answer to your question is is that all of

these things are possible, but we have to unite our country. We have to come together to solve these mass of problems, because, as I've said on your show before, we are no longer the state of the Union. The Union is in peril. They cannot protect our borders, they cannot curb their addiction for money, they cannot pay down their debt, and all these are putting tremendous pressure on the people of this state and the state government itself,

which is the largest business. And every time your listeners put gas in their car or go to the grocery store, they're getting robbed. And that robbery highly impacts especially the low and fixed income people of our state. So it's important to focus on what needs to be fixed, and a lot of these issues. Once you fix one problem, sometimes it fixed three or four other problems. At the exact same time. Sorry to cut you off.

I got fifteen seconds. I just yeah, And I think it also goes to people who thought they were going to have different retirement benefits and don't. So I understand why everyone's concerned, but we got to leave it there. I appreciate the time this morning. Okay, well, thank you for having me on. Have a blessed week, and we'll be back. Hang on your day. Smarter one six one FM Talk and News Talk ninety four five

w PTI more with Casey starts. Now, Hey, you remember the alien bones and the skeletons they found in Peru, but then they like did that press conference thing in Mexico. You remember that from September last year. That was crazy, right, and they're like, ah, we're gonna get to the bottom of this. Well, they got to the bottom of it, and I gotta admit, when I tell you what they found, I'm really the energy from this story is has me a little creeped out. So not

Aliens. Okay, sorry, I know some of you were on team Alien. You were really rooting for it because you know it feel good as if they are that little, because then you like think you can take them because you never saw Mars attacks. So it's a doc. You should watch it

anyway. Uh. Instead officials, uh, forensic experts say that they are quote dolls made from paper, glue, metal, and human and animal bones, but not aliens, so don't have to worry about that, just just made to look like aliens using what I guess would have to be children's bones or I guess little person. I mean, I mean that sounds concerning, right, but no, they're just baby bones. Yeah's move along. Then see what well that's the that's the whole thing. They're like, oh,

oh, not aliens, just baby bones. Anyway, what do we have it for lunch? Are we? Are you going to order? Yeah? Like you guys are way too comor comfortable with that. Like if you came over to my house and I had like a little skull on a mantle, right, and I'm like, look at my it's my new crystal skull. Yeah, and then like lo and behold, I find out now it's a baby skull. Like aren't you gonna have any questions? You're gonna have questions,

right, like why do you have a baby skull? So yeah, that's what that's what it is. And they're all they're just ready to like, oh well not aliens, move on to the next story. And I was really creeped out by that man. So but also they probably are aliens, and they just like they can't tell you so that you weren't gonna buy weather balloon because you saw the video, so they had to go with baby

bones. So the distraction is real. Speaking of distraction, you know, last week on the show, we played audio from the the crowning of the new coach up at the up at the Patriots facility there coach Mayo former for them good player too, and it got really deep, really quick, and it just again it's the whole energy is off thing. Here he is. By the way, just a snippet from that presser last week. I do see color because I believe if you don't see color, you can't see racism.

This is the announcement of a new football coach to play a game. Okay, I do see color because I believe if you don't see color, you can't see racism. And whatever happens black, white, disabled person, I've always even someone with disabilities, I always, you know, for the most part, people are like, you know, don't you know when they're young they kind of make the spot hot. Younger people know what that means. But what I would say is like, no, I want you to

be able to go up to those people and really understand those people. So it goes back to whatever it is, black, white, yellow, it really doesn't matter, but it does matter so we can try to fix a problem that we all have. Okay, all right, yeah, all right. Again this is a getting to know you. Hey, you're the new coach and and to some extent you are bound by the questions that are thrown in your direction, but you don't you don't have to allow yourself to go

there. Look at everything that happened with UFC over the weekend up in Canada, where you got one fighter just go I mean just punk in a reporter and then of course Dana White's up doing a presser and they try to get him to, I don't know, apologize. I don't know what they expected

of him. Here is, by the way, Dana White, when hit with a reporter about the behavior of some of his fighters, Dana, I just want to go back you were talking about like you obviously give a long leash to your fighters about you know, what they can say when they are up there with the UFC microphone and you are getting into territory of homophobia transphobia, Like, is there I don't give anybody a leash. Well, I'm saying you a leash. I'm like free speech patrol. People say I'm going

to tell people what to believe, going to tell people. I don't tell any other human being what to say, what to think. And there's no leashes, aren't any of them? What is your question? I was asking that question. I'll move on though. Yeah, probably a good idea. It's ridiculous to say I give somebody a leash. Free speech, brother, people can say whatever they want and they can believe whatever they want. And I don't think there's any we had we had we had two gay women who

fought in the co main event. They sat on the stage with Sean Strickland. They could give ah what Sean Strickland thinks or what he says, or what his beliefs are or what his opinions are. You know what I mean. Yeah, so you see where he stands. But backed over to the NFL. I wanted to play all these because I wanted to share audio from the bucks head coach who other than answering some uncomfortable questions about why you don't take a time out. You have thirty five seconds left, you have a

time out and you don't use it. But he wants he'd rather answer those questions. Maybe not that one because I didn't get that, but at least that's, you know, in in capacity of what he's doing. So they try to go in that direction with his name is Todd Bowles or Bowels or bulls, and he's having zero of that. Listen to this stark difference here. You you and Mike Tomlin are two of a few black head coaches in the league. On wonder what your relationship is like with him and your thoughts

on Steve Wilk's joining that fole. And let me just say this because I can't. I can't. I can't tell you how I would feel as a black coach because I'm not black, nor am I coach. But to me, when you immediately want to size me down to one immutable characteristic, it tells me that that that is your striking concern. Obviously, there are rules in place for coaching interviews that require minority interviews. That's a thing that exists

in the NFL. But nobody wants to feel even for even whether it's completely inaccurate or any like. Nobody wants to be perceived as somebody who's in a job for anything other than their ability to do it, and so it comes across as really insulting. But here, here is coach, and here is a very different reaction. You. You and Mike Tomlin are too of a few black head coaches in the league. I wonder what your relationship is like

with them, and your thoughts on Steve Wilk's doing that fold. I have a very good relationship with Tomlin. We don't look at what color we are when we coast against each other. We just know. And by the way, why does he assume that him and Tomlin are tight? Isn't that a little I don't know that a little racist? Just I mean, I guess it's a small group of people. Probably everybody knows everybody, but like you think him and I've interviewed Mike Tommy used to be with the Minnesota Vikings.

I've talked to the guy on numerous occasions back in the day that dude's all football in his brain all the time, man to the point where he gets nerdy about it. You're just like all right around the radio. So yeah, it's in sweet Oel. I have a lot of very good white friends that coach in this league as well, And I don't think it's a big deal as far as us being coaching against each other. I think is normal. Wilk's got an opportunity to do a good job. Hopefully he does it,

and we coach ball. We don't look at color. But you also understand that representation matters too, right, and that when young inspiring coaches or even football players they see you guys, you know, they see someone that looks like them, they grew up like them. That has to be talking

about. And by the way, just so we understand how stupid she is, she says, coaches and players, do you think that there are black kids playing football in America right now who don't feel that they're represented in the

NFL on a player's side, Is that possible? That's insane to me, Like, I don't know that any kid right now who's black, who's sitting at one of our high schools in North Carolina is expected to, you know, be heavily recruited, is going I don't know if I can make it or do you think their head is if I play good enough, I'll make it. Because you're young and you're just like aspirational and and that's great.

But yeah, what a dumb follow up question When you say you see you guys and look like them and grow up like them, means that we're eyeballs to begin with. And I think the minute you guys stop making a big deal about it, everybody else will as well. Think, by the way, I love the you guys thing. They called it out and then flipped it all right, which locker room, all things being equal, let's say

they both had eight and nine records whatever, Yeah eight nine? Uh, you got to account for a different person at which locker room do you feel is probably going to be the most cohesive? I ponder that while we chat with the race Sagic from the weather Channel, and they are very cohesive because they all share a doppler. What's up man? Yeah? Not much. Temperatures probably going up next few days. Do you know if you didn't catch it last hour, we might be near or above seventy degrees this week?

I'm a boy that Yeah. Yeah, so that's gonna be real nice that the problem or the issue would be it won't be like seventy and sunny. It'll be clouds, limited sun and the rain chance is also going up. Western parts of the state and its parts of the southeast actually could see multiple

itches of rain this week, but it is another chilly start. Today we should be mid upper forties with sunshine, and then tomorrow we'll start off near thirty rather than the teens and low twenties that we've seen across the area of this morning, and then tomorrow afternoon cloudy in fifty and there might be a little rain tomorrow afternoon, but really better chance of some scattered showers and rain on Wednesday highs in the mid sixties and Thursday Friday upper sixties to low seventies

with some showers. Might even be a thundershower mixed in their two k C and the rain totals through what late week are likely going to be in that range of about you know, one to two inches to the west and then maybe up to an inch or so from the triad and off toward the triangle, with lesser amounts further east. As a lot of the rain will be across northwest Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana could be five six inches of rain. I would be surprised if some spots get double digits.

So the cold there is getting kicked out be replaced by some mile there. But with it we'll also see some wet weather. Okay, all right, thank you, Sarah. We'll chat tomorrow. I have a good one and we'll come back with Jeff Bellinger next. Hang on, keeping you connected. This is ninety four to five WPTI and the Triad and one six one FM talked and the Triangle. Good morning, eight fifty three and Jeff Bellinger Bloomberg New is joining us. Jeff, what's happening well, Good morning, Casey.

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the merger is not revived. It snow now a tough weekend for people who work at Sports Illustrated. The news Guild took to social media late Friday to say the magazine's publisher is going to fire a lot of employees, possibly all of its unionized workers because of increased financial pressures and casey more than correction.

More than four in ten American adults who are married or living with a partner admitted to Bankrate they have kept a financial secret from their financial significant other lack of transparency about money can be harmful to a relationship. More than a quarter of respondents say it can be as bad as an affair case. Really, I mean, because it's the dishonesty component all around. I get, yeah, I kind of feel like one's gonna listen in much different emotional immediate response.

But I would think, all right, that's why we have crimes of passion. So all right, full talk tomorrow sounds good, take care of a good day, Yeah, I get it. But you know, also kind of different a little bit speaking of different, not that people were you know, probably it was a very niche group. So in Philadelphia for years they've done a pantsless light rail thing or a public transit thing. And it was this weird day where people would show up wearing you know, like funny

boxers. You'd be one or two dudes and speedo's whatever guys, gals, and then they would take a train ride and I don't know why, but it's a thing, and then it's a thing that's that now has passed on to other places, including in Phoenix over the weekend, where it went from a little cheeky no pun intended to use a British idiom to nightmare fuel. They're the photos that emerge because here's what happened. Yeah, where there's some people in funny boxers, yes, but in the photos there are dozens and

dozens of people who went full like BDSM. My favorite combo is there's a bunch of furries, but they're only furries up top and then like leather thongs with attachments if you catch what I'm saying below. And there's kids everywhere staring on at this mess. And also, who the hell's a furry in Phoenix? And I don't know, I don't know why. That's one of the

questions I want answered. But like, doesn't that sound like the that's remember this goes back to being a homeless in like Chicago versus Miami, right, like one is more understandable than the other from a weather standpoint, But like I can't imagine banging around Phoenix and a furry costume. Maybe this time of the year, but or I guess half costume because under it you're wearing attached items. You know what I'm saying, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah yeah yeah. Ross gonna tweak the link out. I'm just letting you know there's some some of it's covered. Don't worry, it's in a more traditional article and not some just weird photo gallery. But like a half rabbit with you know that and the six year old that literally is standing there and her mom. You can see mom just like gripping that daughter. Just really creep me out. But anyway, we did that on Twitter, by the way, and we send the links out at case on the radio.

You can check that out. And quickly before we go, the President would like to remind you, and I love people say the blood of liberty, I assuming the tree of liberty is water with a blood of patriots. Well, guess what, man, I didn't see a whole lot of patriots that out there walking around making sure that we have these weapons. Well, and if you really want to worry about the government, you need an F sixteen. Ah, he went he went to swallow, well, not the nukes,

but with the F sixteen. And he he keeps going there man, so be on the lookout for F sixteen's the Center