Friday-2-23-2024

What is it about four day weeks? You know why? It's because they're abnormal. As weird as that sounds, even if they're one day less, they're kind of not normal. And there's a lot of stuff that has to get done behind the scenes. And I'm sure this goes for a lot of people's jobs. Even though you're off, there's still a bunch of stuff that has to happen. So you, like you do. You basically do part of another day's work folded into your other days so that you can accommodate that

day. So reality from a workload standpoint, and it is what it is. I'm not here to start a union, but I feel like the only way to make that not a thing is to normalize four day weeks. So now five days was the abnormal or three days, then I feel like things would level out just a little more. You ever noticed ross two, Like try telling the salesperson that you have to move something who also has the day

off, Like sometimes it's just not clicking with them. And I'm like, yeah, you know how, that's going to be a day off and you're not gonna be here. So here's what we're gonna Guess what I'm not going to be here either, So yeah, it's really weird. It's weird how it's on the company calendar there. So that's that's what I would advocate once again, uh here on the show, so start the movement, all right, coming up on the show, because again I said we're going to do

this thing. So it was around what two fifteen, AT and T say, two fifteen they said they had full restoration. So the the outage insanity from yesterday I saw, I saw little. I saw people trying to say it was sun spots and stuff, which is a thing that can happen. Now I'll give you ea to what AT and T officially says it is. But you know, people are like, oh, well I saw people on Twitter explaining sun spots and what might be going on. And I don't know

if you know this. We in the radio industry we deal with sunspots. That's an actual issue, and it becomes an issue if you have programming that is satellite fed. So annually there are there are literally windows, predictable windows during which we behind the scenes can monitor and make sure, especially as a news talk station which runs a lot of Premiere, which is the syndicator group that Limbaugh was on, and obviously Glenn Beck Sean Hannity the there's a work

around all of this stuff. So I saw that, yes same people. I'm like, I don't know, man, because that sounds a little swamp gassy off venus. But it is actually a thing that conjack with satellites. But it sounded like there were bigger issues now at and T, who was the service primarily affected, and looked like a lot of the other effect was ancillary, basically piggybacking off AT and T towers and or one side of the call being AT and T. So I'm not just picking on them. And

they said it was the thing that I said it was yesterday. I said it was one of two things that was firmly possible. One it could be a cyber attack. We've talked on this show many times China doing with China, and that's just China. We got tons of places or you know, North Korea has their own thing, and they're not altogether completely muzzled as you saw surrounding all the Sony insanity. But the other thing I said is somebody's dumb, all right, somebody's screwed up, man, Because we're human,

these things happen. So, according to AT and T, the hours long outage that impacted most of North America, because this is actually extended into Canada was actually the result of, let me read it, the application and execution of an incorrect process used as we are expanding our network, not a cyber attack, and so I, you know, fifty percent nailed it. It was. What's also interesting, though, is then I have to listen to

bloviating politicians. And this is not a defense of AT and T. I I happen to be a customer of AT and T, but I am not. AT and T does not I'm not an endorser. AT and T doesn't pay me. In fact, every month I have to pay them a lot more than i'd like to. That being said, watching government ass hats sit there and go, you know something, we need to more closely mind anything that brings them more attached to a communications network. I don't want to hear

about. And I also don't want to hear a bunch of government folk talking about how, you know, the the in this case, the private sector as much as you want to call it, with some of the relationships. If only they had government more up in their you know, more up their

butt, they do better. I would like to remind those politicians who are doing this because obviously they you know, for cloud and it fits the narrative of all businesses or evil, which if you wanted to make it an at and T is evil argument, I can understand why you do that, especially going back to some of the stuff that the communication companies were doing with all that spine stuff you know, under Bush and Obama and everybody. Right,

So you can make that argument. But also you're the a holes going to the government who told everyone in Hawaii they're about to get a missile upside the head. Okay, right, so you want to you want to put track records out there, you took, you made, you made Hawaii consume porn at a rate previously unseen, which is one of the fun facts from that

whole whoops our missile incoming missile eas system. We actually actually told everyone they were gonna die and and what is a unplanned but fantastical study of society. Immediately a huge author the audience went, well, I'm not dying with pants on, so which I you know what, man like somebody should do a doctoral dissertation on that. Come up with a come up with an impact or effect, because admittedly that was kind of eye opening, Like what did you

do when you thought the missile was about to blow you? Eh, call family? Do you uh, maybe try to get to a more rural area, hoping that if that it was in fact a missile attack, the targets would be, you know, population centers, or did you go see if Mia Khalifa had a new video? Oh you did the last one? Okay, all right, so I really I don't need you and and I'm not even getting on the Maui fire stuff right and that disaster, so you know, shut up? How's that? There? You go? All told?

Let's see here? Do they have a final number? Well, look, either you were affected or you weren't affected. I'm assuming because my my phone was it ross. You had the ass So did it just shut it off or did you have to restart it or wait when it finally came back on. Yeah, I laid down for an afternoon nap, which was glorious by the way. Oh good, after the past two weeks. Oh you've been Look, you've been busy doing like I'm gonna you're the you're doing like a

homing garden. Reno the Whole House show. So you've been a busy guys. It's been very stressful, like all these renovations and stuff. So yesterday, actually it's all done. Yesterday I got to, you know, lay down for a little bit in the afternoon, and woke up and it was fixed. So I didn't have to do nothing, okay, all right. Yeah. I didn't know if that people had to restart their phones or anything,

because I was among the unimpacted royalty. I guess although you and I see some of it may have to do with the iPhone model and you and you have a different iPhone than me. It was pretty sweet though, because when I did lay down for my nap, I'm like, well, I guess I won't wake up to any text from the boss. No. Yeah, that's the upside man, right there. You know how else you can do that turn your phone off, you can recreate you can recreate the experiment

every every week, or a little house in the prairie stuff. Yeah, or not pay your phone bill and yeah good point. Yeah and then boom, and then I won't be able to send you prep stuff. So it's uh, it's a two fers. So but yeah, that was it. Of course, also if it was a cyber attack. This is now can I put my cynical conspiratorial hat on if it was a cyber attack, one that was even marginally successful in this level of disruption, I think A.

I think at and T and the government wouldn't tell us. Is that is that me being too cynical, because that's like you're getting, you're getting your panicky level stuff. I don't. I don't think they tell us now. I think they then if they could avoid it. Yeah, Bob can't write code. He used to be a coal miner and then they forced him to do this, and he was gonna do the Keystone pipeline and that fell through. And I'm not picking on Bob. He's good at all those things.

But I just wasn't nailing the code. And what we realized yesterday, like the last portion of the show, of how it was affecting the two factor or whatever it is, verification, yes, authentication. We ended up getting some emails like your corporate emails saying, hey, this is really affecting business. Yeah we called that at like eight fifty. We're like, oh man, yeah, we nailed it, so they should really Why don't all the

bosses listen to the show. Actually I don't know if I want that, but just hey, Ross has to pull clips every week for some internal stuff for the show, like highlights. Did you send that? Is that what you're sending? Our prediction? I know I send this week. I sent Trevor the Don Junior interview to yesterday. I mean logically, which which, by the way, you opened the interview talking about the outage. So yeah, we just assumed he called it on like a prepaid phone card or something.

Well, they probably have a satellite of their own. I mean, let's just let's just be honest. I would really once you get into fu money, uh, your own communication network. Oh you're gonna show you turn a phone off? Jokes on you. Yeah, your backyard looks like that giant satellite dish that's in all the spy movies. Where is it down in Australia? You think? Yeah? Absolutely? Oh, by the way, we got another space thing. Oh let's see here all right, you ready,

Ross, we have a we have an asteroid. Since the satellite didn't fall on on all your new stuff at your house. Maybe this how many animals white? Is it? Well? It's so funny you would ask. All right, let me read the headline, m h an asteroid the size of six Indian adult peacocks? Yea? What anything to avoid the metric system? Why are you laughing me, Chris? Why? Why are you laughing at this? Doomsday? Well, you know, probably wouldn't shut the whole

world down. But I'm going to tell you, if an asteroid the size of six adult Indian peacocks smashes into your house, you're not going to be laughing today. That's going to go really horribly for you. So uh yeah, be on the lookout for that now. I will say this the the article, the article here, which is from the Jerusalem Post. All right, even though that you know they they tend to do straight news there, it's clear that the author is a little tongue in cheek on this, and

I guess I can appreciate that. But still, if you and your colleagues are doing all of this. Also, how big is an indian peacock? Can we get ross? Will you convert that to bald eagles or yeah? I don't know how big it is either? And is it like peacocking, you know, how like their feathers get bigger. Oh, that's a good point, Yeah, is it we're talking with height, expansion of the tail feathers on the males. It doesn't say, it just says, it says.

It actually says, around the size of six adult Indian peacocks, we'll fly within the Moon's orbit. Blah blah blah whatever. So watch out for that, I guess at some point today. But they it's they say it's not going to do anything. But if you have a telescope, I guess you can see it. And actually I think maybe already went by. Yeah, I don't even I don't know. If we can't do bold eagles, how about African swallows? Can we convert it to that? We talk an

African or European? What's the difference. Is there a difference between the two swallows? I mean, I put it out there if we're using if we're using Indian peacocks, I thought Africa is kind of closer to India, so it would that would be an easier conversion. Rob wants no male or female. You know, it doesn't gender the peacocks in the article here, so I don't know. And also, are these real peacocks or are these peacocks rendered by Google Gemini image and if so, are they recognizable as peca.

These are all things that are not clearly not in the story, So I don't know. I'll attempt to do a conversion. I'm you know what, I'm making fun of it, and I think it's domb and we mock it on the show ever since the Giraffe a giraffe width thing, which was a fun segment but hurts the brain. So yeah, to your question, it does matter which direction, height, whatever. Is it a weight issue? Probably not Peaky's. I gotta think a mass of compacted rock is going to

weigh more per square inch than a Indian peacock. But I'm not a space person or a peacock expert. I know they're loud and they can be aggressive.

That's what I know about peacocks, and that if you go to Houston and there's some really nice neighborhoods off downtown, driving through there one time, going to see somebody, there was just random peacocks running around and then they and they were like, wouldn't let me pull the car into a driveway And they're like, yeah, I wouldn't get out and mess with that peacock. So if you have a satellite made of those, I'm slightly terrified. All

right, we'll run the numbers. We got lots more to get into coming up. Hang on, all right, So several organizations Southern Poverty Law Center, which you don't take anything you read there with a grain of salt. It was crazy, is like, even some marginally mainstream organizations were calling out all of the financial shenanigans there, and then that story just went away.

Anti Defamation League there's another one. Is it Jason's Project something project, I can't remember the name of it. But they all they maintain lists of a variety of things, whether it's hate groups, crimes, or mass shootings, and they may have different definitions and on what qualifies and the motivations around it

as it pertains to extremism. And so the Anti Defamation League released the the report on twenty twenty three, okay, and in it they attempt to determine through their standards what may have been the motivating factor in some of these very high profile horrible stories. Right, and the document which lists I believe it's seventeen they identified as meeting the requirement of a mass shooting or attack and having

extremist motivations behind them. They decided in twenty twenty three, every extremist related mass shooting was the result of right wing extremism or mass casualty events. It's not just shootings. Every mass casualty event here in the United States, of which they claim that seventeen qualify, all of them were the result of right wing extremism. There were zero instances of left wing extremism in twenty twenty three. Does that sit right in your head when I tell you that? Can

you think of any examples that may have you questioning that number? Stories that we may have encountered in twenty twenty three which arguably maybe don't fit into the quote unquote right wing extremist listing. Let me just just give you an example of one that's in the right wing extremist list, but probably not the one you're necessarily thinking of, but just to give you a little sniff of how

this works. Do you remember back in May the the guy a thirty three year old who went to that mall in Texas, allan tech I believe it was police ended up killing him. He killed eight prior to that, and his name was Mauriceio Garcia. That is one of the items that's listed in right wing extremism because they say he had a neo Nazi tattoo, which some people feel might be actually a prison tattoo. I never really saw a definitive

one way or the other, but they decided that that counts. The one though, that is raising some questions with folks, is what happened in Nashville, And that's probably the one that popped into your head. Now, remember some attacks are listed as not extremist motivated, so you know there's gonna be some of those that they claim don't fall into the right or left category. But that's not one of them. That one they decided is right wing extremism.

I'm surprised they didn't include the dude who mowed down everybody with that van or that suv who was also it's it's hard to get there that they're a right wing extremists. But no, the one that people are arguing over, excuse me, is the Nashville Covenant School shooter. Now, just looking at what you know about that, would you say that that is that was motivated at least in part by ideological extremism? Would you say that that is that

is a fair statement with the Covenant School shooting Ross. Would you say it's a fair statement before we dice which side, but would you say that that probably had there was some motivation that arguably could fit into the extremist definition. Yeah, I think that's easy. Yes, okay, of right wing extremism, and so that's where that's at. So you would yeah, so admittedly, yes, it was extremism of from from from the right. I mean

obviously right, obviously, Well, I know what you're saying. You're like, well, maybe maybe you could give us an example of why. According to the A d L if you looked at the pages of the manifesto, we did see right, remember was it Crowder? Who? I guess somebody somebody in law enforcement gave it to Stephen Crowder. He put it out, I said five three pages. I thought it was five, but three and from what we saw there, because again we we don't have the whole thing

officially. They say that because in those three pages, as well as in a social media post, the shooter in that case use the British word for cigarettes, right, the one that starts with F. You know, the word that that is. It doesn't that would not be so we're not looking at it. So We're not looking at everything else that happened and everything else in the minute, just the one word, and you're like, oh, well there has to be something. You know, somebody in the right would

say used it multiple times, Russ. I mean it's it's it's right there. That's an obvious Trump voter, unquestionably. Now, how do they classify it? Basically that the motivation was was personal animus and beef basically with people within the school who were quote doing better than the shooter, who resented that, and and then took that personal animus and when did this horrible thing which they wrote a manifesto for, which does have some other stuff in it.

Arguably, Yeah. The ad L says that the decision to condemn her targets as the British word for cigarettes is an example of epitats directed at lgbt Q plus people, which muddies the water in determining uh it to be left wing extremism as a motivating factor. You know, sometimes people use words. People use words I don't want to say ironically, but are able to use words.

I you know that black people will call other black people the N word, right or even I'm thinking about eminem eminems is that word a lot, yeah, not the N word, the other word. Yeah, but I wouldn't I wouldn't say eminem is is a right winger in any way, I

mean a big lib No, no, that wouldn't wouldn't fit. But like, also, you ever see women who are going out, like a girls' night out or whatever, you ever hear how they'll talk to each other like in the same way guy, dude, Yeah, they're all sluts, right yeah, or or the B word like, but they mean it in an affectionate manner or or and I'm not saying this is necessarily the same thing,

but they don't. They don't necessarily think that their friend group is a bunch of and then insert whatever the derogatory word is, although secretly they might because women get jealous of women, but whatever, But like that, or when I when I show up, like if football, if there's you know, if I'm gonna go join the you know, the group of guys that I sometimes go watch with, and like when I've first seen them, I don't

honestly think they're degenerates, but I will call them degenerates. And there is a certain element of generousy to spending all day watching football and possibly even gambling on it. But that's not my true opinion. So how that plugs in here, I don't know, but I feel like this is one of those where you want to look at the totality of the evidence and I guess it

just doesn't fit the mold. Yeah, fifteen of the seventeen identified as we're quote unquote white supremacists, and then the two other are non white supremacists far right extremists. So seventeen total and zero left wing motivating stuff. So again, much like the Southern Poverty Law Center, anytime you hear a media outlet quote on the issue of hate crimes from the ADL, knowing this should inform whether you trust that information. And I think people are going to have a

hard time if you can't even call that one one. But that's where we sit this morning. Anyway, six forty five Cacoday Radio program. Don't worry. I have some mildly not want to make you drive into a concrete divider kind of stories. We'll get to that. We'll check in on some of

our State Department experts. There was I think it as much fanfare, but there was some interesting hearings going on up in Washington yesterday having to do with Israel and everything going on over there with Hamas and Palestinians and the United Nations and you name it, and really what the US government's position should be.

That's what they were knocking out. So lawmakers brought in experts, including folks from the US State Department, who this is this is their whole world, understandably, so right, this is their whole world, this little slice of the Middle East, which is rot with tensions every day that I've been alive and most of you have been alive. And so they're going to have the deep understanding necessary to provide advisory opinions to members of Congress, so hopefully they

can make the best decision. And it's a doozy, so do stick around for that again eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four back in just a few And what I want you to do, which is going to make this easier to digest and not smack your head against the wall at least at the beginning. Why don't you pretend you're in like a really bad SNL skit, but at least one that's tending to come from both sides. Maybe I don't know, because otherwise, just figure out where your bunker is and

head there now. Man. So yesterday there was a hearing specific surrounding the US and what really State Department officials and others would like to see should there be some sort of a resolution or agreement? Okay, you know that stuff they should be talking about. Even those who are the most isolationists, you have to understand that there still is entanglement there. So yeah, they should probably have a plan. So they bring in a woman by the name of

Bonnie Jenkins. Now Bonnie, Yeah, I'm gonna give you. Her actual job title is the US Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security, So she is a State Department muckety muck. And who is it Congressman mast I believe, Yeah, it's Brian mast He. He's asking her a line of what are actually kind of boring questions, but specifically, what are the government's thoughts within the State Department on a two state solution, like what does

that look like? Which I think a lot of people have asked that question, right because if you do, and then like there you should be concerned if they go to state and even if an agreement is signed and hamas remains control in control there and is still being Iranian influenced. That's not an ideal situation. So that's what the congressman's trying to get to the bottom of with this. This muckety muck at the State Department is Bonnie Jenkins, and let's

go. We support a two state solution. Okay, have you looked at that objectively? What do you mean? Have you looked at subjectively? Have you analyzed that objectively? This is this is something that we do support. Yeah, that's not an answer. Have you analyzed a second Pealstinian state objectively? Have you have you analyzed it objectively? I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. You don't know what it means to objectively analyze. You know what

it means object Okay, so have you done that? No? I have not you if if I understand your questions, you might not be because I can't believe that you would answer it in that way. If you so, let me just start over. You're here and just so rebundantly clear. The objectively, both how he means it and how people understand it, Uh, simply means attempting to analyze the situation free of bias. Okay, so you may want a two state solution, right that. Maybe your stated and bias

isn't necessarily bad. It may be a decision you arrived at. What he's asking is, when arriving at that decision, did you take a step back and go yes, you know, even though that is the official position of the US government. Before I make a recommendation, let me on all the scenarios, because and I just gave you a shining example. What if it's a scenario where Hamas still controls and I ran still controls. So yeah, you need to take a step back, and you may arrive at the same

decision, but you evaluate things objectively. People need to. People do this in their life all the time, or the very least they should when big decisions are being made. All right, So this is not off to a good start. Representing support for a Palestinian state, correct, Yes? Have you analyzed that support objectively? Yes? But you just said no. So I'm trying to understand what you're saying. I thought I made it pretty simple, but you said no. But I'll grant you that now you said,

yes, you have looked at it objectively. Okay, all right, all right, So that's uncomfortable, but you know there's let's now that we're into it, we've moved past this small misunderstanding. Well, some people if they're in public at cameras, whatever it's, it can be taxing or it could be distracting. It shouldn't be at that level, but I understand. So I'm sorry. Would you assess would lead that Palestinian state? Ah? This is my question? Very good? All right, now we're down to specifics.

Let's do this. You can name a group, but I'm saying Hamas Palestinian authorities to Palestinian Islamic Jahad Fata, some other group who would lead it. I think that has to be something that's considered. I don't think I'm in a position to say, what did you objectively assess would lead it? In determining you have support for a Palestinian state, I don't. I don't

want to. I don't think that I can answer that question. Phone number eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four coming up one hour from now. One hour from now, Pete Callander will join us, because that's how we do Fridays. And you know, one of the stories I may have to ask about is all that West Charlotte High School insanity. And if you don't know what happened, we'll explain. And I'm gonna and I will try to you're ready for this ross, I'm gonna try to objectively analyze the

story? How about that? Because that is a service that we do around

these parts. And I really do, I honestly mean that. I even when we're reactionary to stuff and you have that immediate response because of how you feel about a topic, I try to always like, all right, let me step back and think this thing out, and I may arrive at the same conclusion and in that very same way when bigger, much bigger decisions than just some story I'm putting in my stack are being made, Like if we do this utilizing the robust power that is the United States, whether it is

via reputation, long standing relationships, or just due to the ungodly sum of money that will give an aid every year, which is essentially a little bit of a bribe. In some cases, objective analysis is important, and those within the US State Department as it pertains to how we interact with other countries, especially ones in turmoil, those are going to be important partners at the table and that's where we found ourselves. Testimony yesterday by Bonnie Jenkins, the

US Undersecretary for State for Arms Control and International Security. Absolutely is somebody who should have thoughts on what's up with everything going on in Israel, And if we support a two state solution, as is the current recommendation from the State Department and the official policy of the US government, we should know what we're

getting. And if what we're getting, and this is what the Congressman is trying to drill down on, is in fact the same but with more formality, then we have to ask ourselves, is that is that still currently the best recommendation? Because if you just have Hamas and now Hamas is their own thing because they retain control and Iran retains the control that it has, I think people have a hard time believing that it's going to be kumbah Yaf from

that moment forward. So that's the line of questioning. That's where we last left our heroes. Let's get back into this where she it's not real comfortable with the word objectively, who would you assess would lead that Palestinian state? Pick a group, you can name a group, but I'm saying Hamas Palestinian authority to Palestinian Islamic Jahad Fata, some other group, who would lead it.

I think that has to be something that's considered. I don't think I'm in a position to say so. Did you objectively assess would lead it? In determining you have support for a Palestinian state? And this is an important nuance, not who do you want? That's one question. If everything played out, who would it be? You gotta game theory, this stuff, you gotta know because maybe as part of the process where you're like, all right, we'll do it to state. However, Hamas can't be the ruling

party. That's a negotiation point, and I think we can objectively agree that for the most part, that you don't want Hamas in charge, right right, Okay, all right, continue. I don't want to I don't think that I can answer that question. I think this has this is part of a larger discussion. But you objectively assess that you support a Palestinian state,

objectively assessing that who do you assess would lead that state? What group that does not receive military support from say Iran, do you assess would lead that that state? I understand your question, but I think I would have to have a little I would. I don't. I don't feel comfortable saying that without you, what group would lead it? Have you or have you not assessed who would become the leader of that policy? This is part of this

is part of a larger discussion. But have you or have you not assessed that it is? It is part of It is part of a larger discussion, which is why the decision makers for a lot of this stuff are calling you in the government employee, a high high level government employee who this is clearly in your wheelhouse. It is. This is the larger discussion, and you're part of it. Right, I'm not there testifying I'd solve it to

quickly and everyone looked bad. You're there because you're the under secretary of State. You're one of the vps at the company, and specifically you're you're you're in charge of you know, things that go things that go exploding, and uh and guns and violence and all of the things that this this conflict is wrought with. Right, this is this is your bag, lady. What are we doing here? All right? So as you can tell, this

is going nowhere. However, the Congressman has five minutes, so we'll suffer with I don't feel I'm sorry, I don't feel come to you don't care, you'll come saying if you have assessed something. No, what I don't feel comme is making a statement when I think it's part of a larger discussion. Don't even say who it is, Just answer, have you assessed it?

This is great? By the way, don't even I don't you know, and you never have to say it out loud, but in your head at any point, did you go If we do, then maybe it'll be be or maybe see. But you don't even have to say which one. Just just let me know that the thought crossed your mind. Put his way there. There will be an assessment of this question within the US government. We think you I have a position right now to say what that is because

I think this is part of a larger discussion. Honestly, it's amazing. I think it goes back to your original statement, which was probably the correct one, that you have not objectively looked at this and you got it right from you. Another question part of what the US government wants to do. I can't you're supposed to be part of the US in the US government but I will not. I have more time. Sorry, all right, And then mister you know, pants up to his chesticles as they're trying to shut

this down because he realizes this is awful. I think what you're not understanding here is what she's saying in all fairness. Okay, all right? Oh wait, are you objectively looking I have, Yeah, I've looked at it objectively and subjectively simultaneously. So let me just say I think what you're missing here is I think her point is is that this is something the government should

handle and there needs to be a broader conversation on the issue. So, but this is but she she is the government, She's the US Undersecretary of State for Arms Control. Once again, I'm just trying to trying to throw an olive branch here, like you a hand across the aisle. Right, So, one thing we can definitely agree on, right, is that Palestine. Uh if you see that as a thing and Israel. Well, she's definitely recommending the two state solution, which would include that and Israel, which

is definitely a thing we can we can both agree. Right, you can concur that those are not states in the United States of America. Are those states? Are those are the are the one of the no I have objectively.

So what she's saying is somebody in government in that department should have this broader discussion and not her, which they're not parts of the United States, and she is secretary of State. There's fifty states under secretary of State, and she's looking at this and she's like, this is none of my business. I'll have the conversation with you. But I I represent the fifty United States because I work in the secretary that you know what I mean. It's

under secretary of State. We can't agree on this, correct, that would be one state. That's not states plural, You're just not which state is she in charge of arms control and international security? Right? That would be the United States, the fifty of them. But like what happens in gods there, it's none of her business, but an international imply things that aren't part of the United States. What we need is to have this is part of a deeper discussion. All right, Yes, that's the and that's what

this is. We need to do the discussion. Right there, they're going, what I like if she honestly thinks that her purview is is the United States, because she works in the state department in Nebraska or Utah, but over there, I don't remember. I'm the one who thinks. I'm the only one who thinks. But I'm probably right that Joe Biden did call the Mexican President demanding the opening of the uh of the gates. I think he

was telling the truth when he said that, and not just confused. And I think the Mexican President, just to keep things on the level, was like, oh, sure, absolutely, man, we'll get right on that.

So nothing is past that. That's terrifying, that's not just Look, I there's a whole lot of upper echelon folks that we've encountered over the years, you know, especially like with all the FBI stuff, right what you saw within the FBI and the smugness of that agent, and also you know the the the wholesale clear leaking of information by the number two at the and he just gets to walk away and get a fat TV contract like you see it. But I I to them, I assign evil motives. I just

think this woman's dumb. And I saw people who were mad at the congressman because they said that after he realized that she obviously didn't know objectively or assessment. He then continued down that road, and of course they assigned racism to it because he's white and she's black. But he did it to humiliate her. That's stupid if you're at that level and you don't know what the these aren't complicated, even sat words like back in the day, this's the objectively

an assessment. Those are simple words that you should know at this level. At this point you live, I feel, especially in your line of work. But nope, nope, it continued on. And then after all of that run around, there was a question, which I think is a very valid question that's thrown that then is just ignored. So let's get the last one. Why do you think that we should make a country out of a people that just conducted a Jewish genocide four months ago? Okay, all right,

no assessment, no objectivity in there. Why do you think that we should we should make a country out of the perpetrators of this this October seventh attack? October sixth, and then obviously the seventh is when they started the

pushback. Why do you think should that be the reward? And keep in mind, this is on the very same day that there's a UN report out which I can't even deep dive with you on the radio, but the headline reads sadistic humiliation, mutilation, and gang rape were part of Hamasu's strategy, So not just things that happened, but things that were ordered or encouraged and horrific narratives like using edged weapons to stab hostages private areas before executing them to

inflict maximum humiliation, and then rape as a weapon, which in a couple anecdotal instances was so violent and so prevalent that the victims were begging to be executed. Right, So why should somebody who feels that that is acceptable and encouraged from a managerial standpoint, why would you reward them with the country if you haven't determined if those are going to be the same cats in power?

That's the question. Fair, absolutely fair question, and really I think what he was trying to get at. So what do you think, ma'am? I'm not sure what you're what you're asking. Can I have time to repeat the question for her, mister Chips, since she doesn't understand I object, Chairman for do you objectively object or just object? So the question to repeat

it? Since you said you don't understand Chairman, I continue to object, why do you want to make a country people that just conducted a Jewish genocide? And I said it very clearly, Please answer. I'm not going to respond to a question about about that. I don't. I don't feel like

I would. I want to answer your question, I really do, but I still feel like I'm in the position right now that I can answer those type of questions when I when I this is a question that's going to be just this is a question for the US government, and you're the US government. Yes, I undoubtedly we're still work. We're still thank you, mister Chairman for indulging me to repeat the question. And she's said, well, we're still we're still working as part of the larger discussion, which is one

thing they're having. But too again, she is in there to promote a specific course of action, So they're not in the maybe phase. They're in the this is what they recommend it? What is your recommendation? And then the follow up question, which is it's not just a government thing, right I have I think you've probably run into it. I've run into it.

Right, you are tasked with something, you're talking to whoever your supervisor is and the supervisor may ask why you did something or why you chose to do it that way, and it can be drilled down where you know there's a problem and they're trying to get to the bottom of it. It may be because they just want to understand your thinking as to how you got there.

A lot of times people are decent communicators know that when speaking with somebody who may have oversight over them, what level of detail in the decision making process to brain like, we have some bosses who don't They don't care how we got the answer, just sentiment. They're busy, and you got others who they want a little more detail. That's fine. That's this woman's gig and

it is painful. And again, she's not an analyst. She's not just somebody crunching numbers where they're not asking her to use her experience and you know, things that she've seen and people she's talked to and upper level meeting she's been in. She's one of those, Hey, the buck stops here, which is why she's sitting there. And I don't know that I've come across somebody in that level that is so remarkably unqualified for their job. It's a

high bar. So congrats on that. All right, we'll be back hang on. It's the Cacoday Radio program, Friday edition. About thirty minutes out from chatting with Pete Calender as we do, and lots to get in to,

including what in the world this is West Charlotte High School. So apparently teachers at West Charlotte High School decided to they decorated their doors, which is not unusual, right, decorated doors in a high school setting, as somebody who was a football and the football team anytime we had a big home game, the cheerleaders would go and they would decorate doors and stuff locker room and

teachers doors and all of that. So that's not unusual, and you know, so the teachers did it, but they decided to make it a teachable moment. And when photos emerged, there were some questions and there were a variety of different iteration, but the theme of it was Black History Month. So here's some of the other examples. One teacher decided to decorate their door as the entrance to Motown, so it looks like you're coming to Motown and

then it says under it from chains to change. Okay, But the one that really draw drew attention. Was a teacher who actually has a large enough classroom that they have two doors so you can get in and out. And so the idea that they went with was one was a colored entrance and one was a white entrance. Yep, that's a thing, and that was the language used. You get the paper, the construction paper over the door. The white entrance obviously went with white paper with black lettering the top it,

and they went with a dark brown on the other one. And photos emerged because you now have two separate, yet arguably equal I guess entrances, as they're right next to each other. How do you think? And here's the thing, because again I tried to objectively analyze this, I could and hear

me out. I could understand if you are doing a lesson on black history that on maybe like the first day, right, the kids go home, it's end of January, and then I don't know which school day was first in February, whatever, the date is right, And then when the students show up that Monday, rather than it looking just normal doors, they see those two things, and at that point the teacher seizes the opportunity to say, hey, let's talk about why that says that and goes over it.

I don't think I would have. I don't think most parents have a problem with that. Some would, but I you know that is that is an accurately teachable moment. There's more complexity, but to whatever level you want to teach it. I just when I say complexity, I mean in the ways that that manifested depending on where you grew up. But fine, go ahead

and do that. I think it's the part where it's just been chilling like that all month, and then eventually somebody, some parents got to be like, what the hell's going on, here's the pictures my kid, and they posted them on social media. Yeah, the district said one school leadership was made aware of the display, it was taken down. The teacher's daughter I actually gave an interview to w CNC in Charlotte and said she understood her mother's

vision was to represent segregation, and the display is being taken down. Her only thing was making sure the kids knew or could see a visual of how things were back in the day, which again is why I think if it was a one off, because you want that emotional reaction, right, that's that's an effective teaching tool, and I liked I liked teachers who got out of just here's the book, here's the end of chapter, assessment, rinse and repeat. Right, give me some visuals to you know, give me

some give me some non traditional traditional teaching methods. And as somebody who nerds out on history anyway, I don't know that I'd have a problem but leaving it up all month, that's where that's where they drew the line. The specific the specific explanation, by the way, is the decoration recreated a Sears store from the nineteen thirties and was based on a photo. Okay, all

right, we a lot of those exist. The purpose of the door was to show that Sears, a department store, was one of the first stores that allowed blacks to shop with white people, albeit through a separate entrance. Which again, this is why I pointed out, Yes, there's going to be different variations based on different narratives, and that's when you get into the

whole separate but equal thing. Another great teachable moment on that that I think is readily utilized is one that here in North Carolina we're famous for and obviously in the triad, right woolworst Man these are all things. These are all actual historical things that, if this is the subject matter you're teaching, are wholly appropriate. But the visual aid was a bridge too far. Now, I don't think it rises to the level of mock slave auctions, which it

seems like we hear that story every year. I don't know I've heard one yet this year, but I'm sure there's been one where somebody thinks that's a good idea. But holy crap, man, let's see, they got a bunch of people defending the teacher here, saying I think the teacher did a great job of recreating and illustrating what the times were. No, I'll put that. Look, I'll put that in the maybe column. You can, you can weigh in. I think I'd have to know a little more track

record on the teacher. But that comes down to parents being actively involved in understanding the people who are literally shaping their kids' minds, and sometimes, until there's a problem, those conversations aren't being had. But in this case they were. Uh, And the school says, whoops, go ahead and take that down. Uh. Whereas this police in Bedford are investigating a break in.

Uh, it's quite the this the robber got here we go, all right, So here's what the burglar, according to the police report, stole engagement rings value of fifteen hundred dollars, gold necklace, a couple rings with inset like ruby see jade necklace, diamond hart necklace, some silver dollars which are I guess there's a certain rarity they're valued at like twenty dollars apiece, and I think they got fifty of them, some loose change and one hundred

trillion or excuse me, two hundred trillion in currency that is actually listed on the report here. Yes, In addition to the contents of the jewelry box, the robbers also made off with two No, it would be more than two hundred trillion. What comes after trillion? What is the word for, you know, you know, million, billion, trillion? I fail to remember. It would be twenty of whatever that is, no, two of

whatever? That is. The currency in question were twenty one hundred trillion dollars Zimbabwe and bills, which you know, our collector's items obviously are not worth one hundred trillion each. But they didn't get twenty and it broke the input system, as the police report couldn't even handle that valuation. But you know how government will you know how they'll charge you, see, like drug crimes charges this way, they're like, oh, he had he had ten million

dollars worth of weed, and it's like did he though? I don't know about that? So like if they catch this dude, right, do you charge him with whatever felony escalator that goes to? I don't know. But if somebody does, like try to pay off a debt in Zimbabwe in one hundred tillion dollars bills, you should let the police know because there is a certain rarity to them. All right, seven forty five. We've got ken Boon today helping us round out the rest of the week. Yep, can

boone today? How you doing, sir? Made it to Friday? Made it to Friday. We do have some wet weather out there today as we finish out the week. Cloudy skies, breezy, scattered showers, even a rumble of thunder possible today. Temperatures into the low part of the sixties, low forties tonight. Is we headed too tomorrow morning sunshine Saturday, but look for a few showers through the late afternoon hours. It'll be a little cooler

tomorrow. With middle new upper fifties. Sunday looks nice though, lots of sunshine, a little cool, temperatures in the mid fifties, and then warming back up for early next week. Sunshine Monday, Tuesday, mid sixties Monday, but low seventies Tuesday and mid seventies expected Wednesday. All right, Ken, thank you, we'll talking an hour. Appreciate it Allriday, coming up there was it's quadrillion. Okay, that's what I thought. I just didn't

want to sound stupid, so does quadrillion? All right, So somebody's rolling around with several quadrillion dollars in their pocket. They may have burglarized a home maybe, or you know, maybe they want a lottery or something. I don't know, but that would be the term. So thank you for that. All right? Coming up on the show yesterday, I was amused but also slightly concerned. A reporter used to be a reporter for News and Observer. I think he is. He works for the public radio now was it

Colin Colin Campbell? Right? Anyway? I just happen to notice he posted something that was slightly tongue in cheek on Twitter. Raised a question and what I found a little depressing is I didn't know the answer to it. Admittedly I guess I didn't, but also there were like elected officials who didn't know the answer, and I feel like maybe they should. I'll tell you what the question was, and I'll let you know what our research turned up.

Coming up next here on the KCO Day radio program. How is this not a Bond film? Holy cow? This should be bigger news? And yes it did, idiot, and it involved let's see, cooperation by the DEA US Drug Enforcement Administration. So federal prosecutors unveiled yesterday. I guess wednesday that a gentleman by the name of Taikeshi Ebisawa, who is a Japanese national,

was apprehended. Mister Abisawa is the head of one of the Yakuza families or groups I guess, I don't know technically what they're called, but one of the Yakuza groups, and of which there are multiple, I guess if you didn't know that, I don't kind of like the mob a little, but there's some nuances. I've watched a couple of really fascinating documentaries on this, so anyway, but he's one of the bosses, and as such, when

there's a big, big transaction. Hey, Buck stops with you. He was involved, and according to prosecutors, he was conspiring to sell at the time of his apprehension, which happened in Thailand. By the way, he was attempting to complete a sale of weapons grade plutonium to Iran, or that's what he thought. Turned out it was Iran in this case was undercover agents from the DEEA. But you know, that's that's the stuff you see in an action flick where you know, Stallone's got to go stop him, or

Schwarzenegger or somebody. Man. This is that is you think of the yakuza and organized crime and and all of it, and really the fantastical representations within Hollywood. But this dude straight up had the materials and was gonna sell them to Iran. Which that's always a plot point that troubles me in movies where you got some guy who's like selling He's basically said it, he knows that a nuke's gonna go off, his transactions good, And it's like, well,

you don't, do you know the details arend to do it? Do you have like a handshake agreement? You're like, I'm vacationing in Germany in August. Could you not nuke if you have a target there? I don't know how that works, But in this case it was a a DEA agent, And actually there was a lot of stuff all told. The Aakuza head had showed up to transfer ownership of five thousand in AK forty seven's crap ton of ammunition, five sixteen's twenty sixties, the gun of Rambo tracer regge just

again, lots of lot. Here we go. Mortars. Wow, there's what there's about ten thousand mortar units ranging from sixty mil to one hundred and twenty sniper all sorts of sniper rifles, RPGs, portable SAM units including one hundred rockets each, and the weapons grade plutonium. Yeah, that's straight up action. Flick right there. He's now charged with all the stuff in all the countries. Yeah, you're probably gonna get the book thrown at you there, buddy. So I mean, I'm glad, But also how many of

these transactions happen and don't happen? You know, and don't it's not the DEA, it's just bad guy on bad guy. I don't know if I want to, I don't know if I want to know the answer to that. It's right going to be not paying attention to anything here in a very short order. But before then, you know, we got a head in the game. So to help us do some of the things we do around

here, we're inviting Pete Calender as we do to the conversation. And Pete, I've asked that you be because you know, folks hear us but they don't see us. I've asked Google Gemini to render you and you're now a one hundred pound Asian woman. So if you yeah, mm hmm night. Yeah, yeah, I mean I could have gone in it really in a really you know, awful direction for me, so I'll take it. Yeah, No, it looked same. You look kind of like the uh the

representation of a Super Bowl winning quarterback. That was right, Pilgrim. Yeah, what were some of your favorites from all that stupidity? Because the Vikings, I think the Vikings. I think the Vikings was my favorite. Because what about Nazis? Nazis was interesting. I did not see the Nazis. I saw the Russian soldier, but it did return one kind of white guy looking image and so that was like, okay, you know, it got

closed. I mean it did yield also, and you know a black soldier image, which is weird, like it's a it's a Russian soldier from like the thirties. And I would know, you know some of the uh the images that were generated for the musical of some royal Canadian mounties or something, and that did result or produce some results that included a white person. Uh

so that was you know, baby steps here people. Although I did see one that returned it was like one of the only successful tests for Gemini to actually return a white person, and it was, you know, please show me an image of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, and that did. Actually that's spot on right there, yeah, right, that did return a white guy image. So well, hold on, let's not sell it short.

They also were successful with show me an image of somebody in a giant bucket of fried chicken, happily eating or something, and so it rendered four images of white dudes with big grins on their faces in oversized KFC buckets sitting, So that worked. But with the Nazi one, this is why it's important. Somebody said, show me Nazi officers from the nineteen thirties, and it was there were no white dudes, there were Asian there was an Asian woman,

there was a black dude. There was a guy who looks like he's like poon job, there's and so so that that apparently irritated the New York Times, who is now reporting on this because that thing happened, and that's that's where they're ire. Uh lays right, so had it, so had had Gemini. And for folks who don't know, Gemini is the Google AI

product. And so you can go to these AI products and you can type in things, you know, give me an image of and you just like fill in whatever you want an image of it, and it will generate uh, these sort of what would you call him? Like it's almost like a cross between a painting and a photograph kind of an image. Well, yeah, you can really you can. You can detail these things. You can be hyper specific. You can say, give me an image of Pete on

a unicycle eating a banana while throwing a water balloon at something. It like, they'll drill down on this. The difference here was it was the lack of specificity that was blowing people's minds. And did you see where somebody actually asked the AI like, how does that keep happening? And it essentially it told on itself if you believe it, and it said when you go and you ask it for something, it literally is in the coding to insert another

word in your search term. So if you said, show me a picture of Leprecauns, it would search as though you would type show me a picture of diverse leprecauns. And for leprecauns, that's fine because Leprechauns are a mythical

creature. The problem arose with things like super Bowl winning quarterback Popes, English kings of the fourteenth century, where we have data points, so or even just a white male it would not even like some of the most egregious ones to me are when people said, you know, give me an image of

a white guy, and it would not even return that. But you can answer black guys you get for Hispanic eyes, You could have for every other race and ethnicity, but not white people, which like, and I suspect what what got the New York Times still upset was that, you know, the Nazis, like the ultimate villains of all world history, right, they were white, So why can't you show the white guys as the ultimate villains.

I suspect that's what really got under their skin. It is it is all the rest of it stuff, right, they ignore all of the other stuff. And here, so here's the here's the problem for Google AI, but also this larger ideological project. And it is right, this is this stuff is embedded in the code for a reason. Right. So here here's the problem. Is that you can talk about search term results stuff getting ranked higher on the pages that Google returns and whatever, and most people don't care.

Right, They're going to go to the Google machine. They're going to ask for something, it's going to give them a response, and they're going to say, okay, that's the response. I'm gonna look at the first search result and that's it. Even if they're told Google is putting its thumb on the scale. This this does more like a picture's worth a thousand words. This does way more. This now brings it home and exposes in a

very real sense what the problem actually is with the code. And so it does what the other stories about the algorithms could never do is that it breaks

through. Yes, honey, and we have harped on this show over and over that there is in modern times possibly one of the most important things, especially when you get into the keeping of historical records and things like that, is he who programs the algorithm, because AI will be utilized in a thousand different ways every day by businesses you come into content, even ones you don't are influential upon your life will be utilized, and those tools will be utilized

for a name, things like AI providing better ordering systems for stores, right better to analyze and know what to have on hand. And so when you think of the death by a thousand cuts, whatever is the popular one that's adapted into it, and that control of market share, which famously Google's done to the ninetieth percentile. In many elements of what they do, it will

shape. It will shape things and decisions and choices that you have. And going back to the stocking of a store, you know, I'm sure that that algorithm will come up with things that it feels are representative, are things that white people want and not just because the store sells that the most.

Where it will make a decision, albeit an AI conscious decision that we need to we need to expand what people are using so they they may stock products or order things that aren't in the best interest of the store, but are in the best interest of diversity. Now, you could say that that's a store problem, but incorporate that into all sorts of other stuff. Trying to

book a flight, trying to figure out using AI to scan resumes. Right, all of these things will be done and utilized and people won't see it in the background. So you're right, this is what they will see. But they'll also get the same frustration that you and I get when we go Google a story that we know, we talked about two years ago, which somehow has just disappeared from the Google search results and they go to another one and boom, there's everything you need. Well, and what makes it even

more insidious is that people will believe that they have done the research. They will believe that they had all the options available, that they knew what they were deciding at the time. Right, Because you see this born out with the search results. You know, first off, ninety nine percent of people never go past the first page of Google search results. They will click on stuff off usually the first second, and then maybe the third link, and

that's it. They will never go to any of the other pages. Right, So you actually have companies will that market their services to boost search results and move them higher into that list. That's why people sponsor links to be higher in the list. And you have AI that decides this stuff. Okay, if you're buying something, you know you're buying a broom or a mop,

that doesn't matter so much. But let's say you're doing research on particular candidates or public policy and you have certain candidates that negative stories get pushed to the top, positive ones get down, get pushed down in that list or onto you know, page four or five. People will never see it, but they will believe that they have done their research into those candidates before they

go and vote. And if you don't think that this can happen, it already has it happened a decade ago there were researchers that actually did this and they showed they can manipulate the outcome of elections in India with search engine results. So if you consume that that can't happen, it already has. And uh, Google's position thus far as what whoopsie, but nothing insidious, right, I mean, that's that's basically the read I got off of what they

said. Meanwhile, there you know, of course the they this guy who is literally in charge of this for Google. He got five minutes into his tweets yesterday. And it's exactly who you think's pulling the strings there, exactly who you think, right, It always is right. Yeah, they are who we thought they were right to coute Rick Patina. Yeah, I couldn't caricature it anymore. Hey, I got a question because I'm actually on the fence with this. That thing that happened over it was at West Charlotte High

School with the doors or do I have that story here we go? Yeah, West Charlotte High School where one of the teachers there decorated their class Their classroom has two doors to get in it, and so they put one as a colored entrance and one as a white entrance. And it wasn't a one off, it was. It was up until some parents complained in the schools, like we had no idea, and so they took it down on the fence. I'm on the fence because this isn't holding mock slave auctions, which

is the other doozy we generally hear. But I like history, good, bad or otherwise. I don't know how you said about it, but and I think that if students were to return and let's say it's the first day of February. They're back and they walk up on their classroom and they see that it would there's gonna be an emotional response, and also it provides a teachable moment. So in that essence, I don't know that I have a

problem with it. But then if it's up all month and it's it's turned into this, you know, these these jokes on social media and everything else, and then finally they address it, how do you feel about that? Because people get very touchy about whether kids are being taught. I don't know if in all situations that's one hundred percent inappropriate, right, I would say, I think I come down on this as you do, which is day

one. Make the point because this is I mean that lesson will stay with those kids forever, right Right. You come home or you come back to the classroom after you know, Christmas break or something or a Monday morning, and you come in and what is this? And that is shocking, And then the teacher says, here is the here's the reason I did it. This was the norm, just so you understand, like this is where it was, you know, sixty seventy years ago, this was the norm.

And then then you go through and you talk about the people who work to tear down that system of oppression. And then you tear down the paper on the doors, right, you take down the signs, And I think that's a powerful lesson. When you leave it up for a long period of time,

it's like, Okay, now you're you're you're cheapening the impact. Whereas I think there is a valuable lesson to be had there, but you you now cheapen the impact because it's become you know, like you said, it's a it's a joke, and it's up there for all this time and now making me wonder what are the actual motivations you know, of the of the teacher to do all of this. So yeah, I think one day is good leaving it up. Though not so much because yeah, I think if

you don't know your history, you are doing to repeat it. And I think that it's important for people to know that this was the norm, and and and also if you want to take it a step further, it's it's the concept of it that needs to be taught, right because the teacher the example that I think the teacher used is Sears in the nineteen thirties, and it was based on the fact that Sears did lean into the separate but equal earlier than a lot of businesses, because a lot of business is just like

now, you don't do business here, whereas Sars decided we'll do this, and it created the separate equal which is a very important series of legal decisions and how we got from me right, So there's a reason for it. But also I think it would be intellectually honest if you would apply that to ways that modern day applications may be kind of deviating there, Like give you an example racially segregated graduation ceremonies, right right, that would be that's a

good thing to incorporate in that discussion. Is it appropriate now in an effort what critics say is to fix a problem, to repeat this very same thing and discuss there's a critical thinking lesson for these kids who may one day grow up to be the Undersecretary of State for Weapons and international concerns and have to testify in front of Congress but not know what objectively or assessment means. We had the audio just a little while ago. I'm sure you saw that.

Dudes I did, I mean, did they they are not? How many undersecretaries are there? Not enough? Apparently we need a couple of extra to I don't know what to fix whatever was wrong with that one that we thought, you go, look, maybe maybe blinking sitting in there, he's got his twenty undersecretaries, Like who wants to go to the congressional hearing? And Bonnie raises her hand. You got to make an excuse, like, you

know what, Bonnie, you're way too busy. We're gonna say this other person, but I think I think your skill set is best allocated to this other thing. Yeah, yeah, this's not public facing. What an absolute train wreck. And then listening to who is it Nadler's screaming through his highly his pants, uh the WestLine of his pants. It's just it's just everything that's so wrong, man, just so wrong. Yeah, it's uh yeah.

When I was watching that, I thought, Okay, I mean, I I think I kind of understand what she was sort of getting at, which is like, these are decisions that have to be made above my pay grade, and I'm not going to advocate for something like maybe if I'm trying to down to advocate for her personal position, I agree with her there, it doesn't I don't care why money once, but if you guys sat around or your team enough to come in and represent that the official position should be

a two state solution, right then why? Right? Then? Then? Why? Like, let's go over the inputs for that outcome and what were the inputs? And she's like, oh, that's above my pay grade or that's up to the government or whatever. And he keeps saying, you're the government. But yeah, and like I understand that wasn't the best response that you are the government. No, but to your point, if you did

the analysis, what's your analysis? And I almost wonder while I was watching it, I don't think she knew, Like, I don't think she was in on that assessment. Yeah, which is insane again, Right, they sent her around here to talk about this and she doesn't have any idea what she's talking about. But hey, you know, probably can't be fired. So there's that. All right, Pete, I got the role. Man. We'll leave on that depressive note. But what's your next week? Sir?

All right, buddy, sounds good, Thanks sir. We'll be back. This is which National Guard? Is it all of them? Or no? Okay? So it was specifically the Montana Army, National Guard and recruitment poster. And like if if you're just glancing at it, it looks pretty normal, right. It's member of the US who is a command sergeant major appears to be his rank. Here, yeah, and in the in the picture you see command sergeant major. Look at me, Keith Debout and he

is holding a photo. And in the photo you see his veteran grandfather, Lewis. And obviously the recruitment poster is playing on a sense of duty that is born out of a sense of tradition, which totally understandable. I got it. And so he's standing there holding the pictures like here I am, here's my grandfather. That's fine, and above it it says it's more than college money, it's the spirit of tradition. And then behind him in the photos, in fact, I got to send this to Ross so he can

tweet it out so you can see it. Behind him, you have these black and white images of soldiers. Some are famous known shots like you know, here's you Ajima right here is you know, Battle of the Bulge or wherever the pictures emanate from. But the problem is to the right of him. You see the back of some soldiers marching, and the thing is that's a known photograph. What it depicts is it depicts soldiers marching into Paris to seize it. Ross. Can you look up and see who sees Paris during

World War two? We's gonna look that up, so gonna check out. Oh good lord, what what was it? Not? The Army Nation? Was it? The Air National Guard? It was not? It was not us. It was not. Is it who you would call? Quote the Allies? Oh? They do. They have a name that also starts with a so oh okay, all right, that's like how it's such an apparent thing though, like, well it's it's from the back. But decidedly you're

right because their uniforms are darker. But you have you know, you've never watched any documentary or any movie in World War two ever, Like you can tell you that and know there are there are few you can look at the uniform remulate that's not it's the uniform. Why just send it to you? You you give her a glance, and I mean you do have to,

I guess a little know what to look for. But arguably there were people with military experience probably who were involved in the designing of the poster, right, they you can't see the swastikas or anything like that. But again, one, it's a known photo. But two, even if it's if it's not something you knew was a known photo, you would notice that it's different than the other uniforms in the other pictures of the same era. So yeah,

they're very sorry. They're gonna they'll they'll figure it out. So I don't I don't know stuff like that happens, But then I kind of do. I don't know. People are human. But still, you know, I got to. I just want this to my cousin because he holds he holds a similar rank to this guy or held And now all the military guys are riding me make an army joke. Come on, that's not nice. No, I refuse it, because I think my cousin is one of the

smartest people I know, and he held the same time. You know, he held the top enlisted rank when he retired this year from the military, and his especially his it was recruiting. So he'll get a kick out of this. He might even know this dude. Actually, all right, I don't know that this the guy in the picture is one who put it together, but he is the face of the screw up here apparently, So damn all right, you check it out. We'll tweet it out at Casey on

the radio. All right. So yesterday I'm strolling on the twitters and they come across a post from public radio report used to work for the News and Observer, I believe I remember correctly, and he this is what he wrote. He says, looks like both the governor and lieutenant governor in d C today Cooper for the Governor's Association meeting. Robinson was speaking up at Seapeck. So while they're out of the state, who's technically considered the acting governor?

Right, because this is a conversation that just came up obviously when Cooper was out I think it was out of the country actually, and Mark Robinson did a proclamation and everyone lost their minds like he was staging a coup. But that is it. You know, that is an interesting question. How does that work? Because that is how in North Carolina if the governor's not in the state, the lieutenant governors basically acting governor. But traditionally it's not like

they're really doing anything unless something really crazy happened. But if they're both gone, who's gone? And so I collected it because I'm just curious. I

didn't know. I And what I found a little disconcerting is people who were and most people were having kind of fun with this, but people who literally would be in the line of secession who also didn't seem to know offhand, Like if you got a number in that lottery, you're gonna know what it is, right, And I know, I understand to get a little complex

once you get out, once you get away from the obvious positions. A lot of times the line of secession, at both at the federal level and at state level, it drops into cabinet zone kind of or Council of State as we have here. And it's surprising, I think to some people that the Secretary of Agriculture could be the president if the right sequence of events happened.

But like then, they they just had a whole show on this right where some low level cabinet guys the president, and then of course they had to take it in de had to ruin it like they do everything else. So I'm like, one, I think you'all should know, especially if you're in there. So I looked it up. So yesterday afternoon I decided to scour the archives to get an answer. And just so you don't think that we did this flippantly and then only did one resource while I scoured the archives,

Ross, you consulted the scrolls, right, I do. I took archives, you know, so I went extra step. I did the scrolls and the tablets and the tap. You did that, both of them. Okay, well I'm sorry I didn't really I thought you just did the scrolls and then coupled with me scouring the ancient archives, and it's it goes Roy Cooper, Mark Robinson and then this is crazy me and then you Ross.

So that's your It was that order right there. And like I said, scrolls, tablets and archives all consultant, no need to look at up. I wasn't expecting this, right, but you know, I'm a particular for the rules. Rules are my passionate. I mean, yeah, this is what it says. I mean, I mean the archives are ancient for a reason, right, Yeah, as are the scrolls and the tablets, all

of which have been scoured in or consulted. So so anyway, now you were saying after the show, you wanted to go meet on the top floor by the new windows is up. Yeah, we got some new winders. Yeah, no, you have winds there. You want to media, you said you want me to get a good look out of the You gotta see the view, Okay, all right, especially on a rainy day leg today, Yeah, very very slippery gray and yeah, oh you love it.

It's beautiful. I don't know if I like slippery on the on the on the eleventh floor, but okay, all right, Well I'm sure that that's a wholesome request, so uh but yeah, do clarify. That's how that goes. So next time those two are out, and I'm sure, I'm sure there's be an election season and all those at some point they will be and so you know, I just practice your bowing, probably do that.

That'd be good. And you know, get ready because we got some we got some thoughts, all right, eight forty five, let's get some weather thoughts with Ken Boone. And he's thinking wet weather because why not. It's the weekend. That's where well it's not a total wash out. The second half of the weekend is going to be really nice. As we look towards Sunday, we do have some showers out and about today, even a few rumbles of thunder. It'll be breezy, cool, high temperatures in a low

part of the sixties. Clouds we'll begin to break up late this afternoon and into tonight, temperatures that iight into low forties. We'll start out with sunshine Saturday, but scattered afternoon showers expected Tomorrow. It'll be a little colder, middle to upper fifties. Sunshine Sunday. To finish the weekend chilly, mid fifties, and then warming up quite a bit for next week. Mid sixties Monday with sunshine. We're into the seventies Tuesday, Wednesday. All right,

thank you, sir, and we'll talk. Well. I guess he's back next week. Huh he is scheduled to be back. Yes, that's always got change. Yeah, absolutely, all right, what a life man? All right? Having good week? Ken, are you too? Yeah? All right? And Joan Doneger Bloomberg News joins us. Next, hang on, Joan donnegher, what's happening? Well, it was not a cyber hack.

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every everyday items, including donuts, a big target for criminals. The British Standards Institution says thefts of foods and beverages make up more than a fifth of all theft incidents around the world last year. What do you do with ten thousand Crispy creams? Like, because it's not you gotta flip there's a time frame in which you got to flip them, even if you ate to as many as you could stomach, Like very wasteful, very sad and very well

yeah, well they probably found that out. Yeah, all right, Well, thank you so much, have a good weekend. Thanks for hanging out this week. Jeff will be back next week. Well we'll hear about his world travels, no doubt, so we'll talk to them. Thanks, Joan, appreciate it. Joe Donnager there from Bloomberg News. Ross. Do you ever do any fishing? I can't remember if I've ever we've ever talked about fishing. Yeah, it once, wow with my grandfather, remember it his

nick? Oh that's never mind, We did talk about that. Well, you know what that's you know, there's a learning curve in your kid learning how to fish. And I talked because I hooked my dad. Yeah, like how come the hook is it going into the pond? What was this stuck on? Oh my god, it's stuck in my grandfather's neck and it's bleeding like a spicket. Well and he's like, oh fine, you might be able to identify authorities in Georgia, say a fisherman was, you know,

fishing as you do when he hooked something. And for any of you who fish, like a media, almost immediately you know, if you hook something that's not a fish, it's not a fish, and so you know, maybe give it a pool, maybe a log comes up, or you know the old classic tire in the cartoons. It was none of those things. According to authorities, the fisherman able to bring up out of the water what it had hooked, and it was a dude, specifically a dude's body,

which was not apparently what he was after. And it was on a fly rod too, which there's a little extra skill set there. So I wondered if he was sinking like a wooly bugger or something. No, no, but anyway, Uh yeah, one doesn't look like you get to keep him two probably not in the slot limit anyway. So but you know, obviously police are investigating what's up with that? And where was this ross? She used to live in Georgia? Right where was oh, this is in

this on the chattahoo is on the Chattahoochie River in Columbus, Georgia. Has anyone asked Alan Jackson about this? I mean, I know he says he was just hanging out by the river and it was pale moonlight that night, but also limited moonlight. Seems like that's when I would want to hide a body or sink one in the Chattahoochie River. Probably Muscogee cant I don't I'm

from a geographic standpoint, I don't really know anything about the area. But they do believe this is the speculation that the the trophy may have been the remains of somebody who jumped in the river off of a bridge obviously committed suicide there, or they say it could be an accidental drowning. I feel like you should have more leads than that. But AnyWho, that's horrible right there, But I guess also useful if it's for the family of whomever this is

when they were able to identify them. All right. On that note, I did see we tweeted out the recruiting poster, or go take a gander at that on the Twitter. See if you would immediately know those are Nazi soldiers, I guess if you didn't know the backstory in the background. But I guess I'm real curious if you want to comment on it. It's at Casey on the radio. I did. I think if you're a military individual, that almost should be instantaneously recognizable, But again, I don't know.