Friday-10-20-2023

All right, good morning everybody. It is Friday. It is six o seven. Sorry, we're the best audience. We are the best audience or the worst audience. And if you think you're in the best, you probably are, so don't worry about it. That's just the name of the game. Man. Somebody, somebody's been sending me really weird pictures, man, trying to help prove that there's wolves in wake Forest, and I've just kind of ignored it till now. So Ross, you got some believers up there,

man, let me tell you what I think. That's a dog footprints. All right, well, thanks for that. It is Friday, so you know there'll be a certain level of weirdness in everything we do today. So got that? All right? Coming up on the show? Is there a bunch of hotties at UNC or not? Am I allowed to ask that question? Can I make that statement? I thought this story had I thought

there had to be more to this story. So I read Wril's version, then I read one that was done by the student newspaper, and again you handicap it based on where the reporting's happening, because I thought, well, there's got to be more here, but apparently not. The case. All right, so if you don't know about this, and yes it is Friday,

so a little lighter approach to what we do. Apparently some dude by the name of Rob Cole recently introduced as the new wrestling coach over at UNC, and don't even get me started on the whole history of wrestling coaches over at UNC and some of the new that's surrounded, including a former coach whose son all through the Meet too era that was the thing. Look it up. So you know, if you're going to be the wrestling coach, you

should probably be a winner. You're going to be at an upper level school, and coach Cole seemed to fit that bill former national champion nineteen eighty eight as a tar hill. That's right, probably helps if that's the school you went to, too carries the most wins in UNC and ACC history, so they name him the new wrestling coach over there. And I will admit I'm not one hundred percent on the various I say wrestling, but we'll say wrestling

for this because obviously it's defined NCAA wrestling. I'm not super familiar with what all the power teams are. I used to have a little better knowledge of it, just because we had quite a few wrestlers that came out of Wyoming. Who do you Rulon Gardner kind of a big deal. First guy to beat the Russians, Greco Roman and Forever and Gold medaled a few Olympics ago, and it was it was a big deal. And my buddy, who we referred to as Bubba but his name was Daniel, was our heavyweight,

had to wrestle Roulan in high school. And Bubba was a good wrestler man. He got scouted by like Nebraska and a few other teams, but Rulon destroyed him. And then who else do we have? We had Garrett Viit, we had a few guys that won nationals. I went to Iowa, so I kind of knew what the power teams were. So I'm looking at the story and admittedly, when they send the press release, it's probably not something we're gonna do. This isn't really a sports station, even though we

talk about sports. So what happens, Well, dude does a podcast talking you know, almost primarily wrestling, but specifically is answering questions about, Hey, you got recruited, this is your school, you set the records here? How are you going to bring top talent to UNC, which is a logical question, and he gets into it and he says something that is apparently

so offensive that some of the kids over on campus can't deal. And I assume, by the way, I assume even though you know, we make the the UNC jokes, all of that, and college campuses are a constant push of the stack. The majority of kids on a college campus, they're not the whacked out social justice warriors, worm burning rallies with paraglider leaflets.

I mean that that's not the majority, but you know, the mindset definitely attaches itself a little bit to a lot of students, even if they're not ones who are necessarily going to gather in the quad with you know, f is real signs. So I try to always be able to look at it through through that lens. And the conversation that this dude has on the podcast seems like the most normal thing ever, And yet has UH has apparently drawn

controversy, including from fellow staff members. So what did the new wrestling coach say on a podcast that has caused not just activist students but activists UH employees to lose their mind? It must have been wildly insulting. I we'll tell you what that is, and that's just gonna be. That's just gonna be one aspect of the Friday Show. Okay. Also we got we got State News love that very big fan and a coordinated effort by several media outlets to

explain to you why the economy's awesome. You got it so great and you just don't know it. And we'll see if you're convinced. Plus the latest on the speakers thing and much more in Pete Calendar eight oh five. So that's Friday in a nutshell and we'll dive right in coming up here on the KCO day radio program Smart Talk all Day ninety four to five w PTI in the Triad and one six one FM Talk in the Triangle. Wait, so you're like volunt Ross is volunteering to be the search committee if they do need

a new wrestling time. I don't. I think you do. It'll probably keep his gig so but anyway, No, So I'm reading this story and I don't even know. Man, this the new wrestling coach UNC named Coach August thirty first, former tar Heel National Champion, holds a bunch of records exactly the kind of dude you're probably going to hire to be your coach. And look whether all that success transfers to coaching success will find out. But

one podcast has has has mobilized the moonbats against this dude. All right, I'm warning you, I'm going to play this. You've been warned. What he said to ring the podcast? Now? Did he say death to Israel? Did he encourage people to burn down buildings or something? No? No, didn't get into any of that. No, he said this, what's

so worried about Chapel Hill. First of all, it's sixty percent women, for God's sakes, and in ninety five percent of are are attractive, now you know, and it's just a really the little campus for young eighteen to twenty two year old then you know, I mean, good lord, why didn't you know? Would you? I want to go there? And it was so funny what and and they had this sorority, they had the soarty

in weekend. While I was there last weekend, and I look at it, it's like ninety five percent girls are like, why do we not have a recruiting again this week? All right? So he's answering a question about you know, how do we do a better or you know, in the UNC sense, how does UNC do a better job of recruiting? And he's talking about why he thinks it's not going to be you know, one of the reasons he goes on to talk about in a huge amount of other reasons,

ones that are more technical in nature. Do you know what I'm saying, right like, look at the competition, look at the ability, look at the look at the resources the university makes available, all good arguments for why he thinks UNC should be able to recruit, exactly what you would expect a coach to say. But he also points to the campus environment, and let's face it, a campus environment that may be something that dudes notice when

they're thinking about coming to campus. I'm not understanding what the issue is, but that's because obviously I'm a monster, is well. Ariana Vigil, chair of Department of Women's and Gender Studies at UNC, says, the words we're marginalizing, comments such as that unfortunately support misogyny and hetero sexism. Okay, wait a second is wait, so hetero sexism is that negative? I'm trying

to figure out why that's Why is that a problem now? Misogyny I understand as an insult, But hetero sexism are you is that it supports traditional sex couples or sexism within a hetero From a hetero perspective, I'm not one hundred percent on this. She goes on to say it reduces females to students to their physical beauty and imply that women's value is measured by their attractiveness to men.

I don't think he said that at all. I think you pointed out that if you know, you're an eighteen nineteen year old dude who likes women, might be a place you enjoy. And I would also point out that there are women. I know this may come as a shock to some in the UNC system. There are women who attend that school who like dudes, and perhaps might even put some value in their physical appearance as part of the whole dating environment, and might also find themselves attracted to male athletes on the

university campus. I know this is craziness, absolute insanity. Perhaps you know, due to the fact that probably they value their physical appearance, it is an aspect of it. I don't think the guy said, hey, come here because it's a bunch of smoke show dumb floozies, and you can you know you can, just you can run through a whole sorority. I don't think he implied that at all. I think he basically said, look, thinking about it when I was eighteen, being on a campus, get a

lot of beautiful women. It's a good aspect. But no, now he's he's come out and apologized, which is unfortunate because again, if you think that bending a knee to that insanity is going to get the people who are critical of you to go okay, well, look he admitted he was wrong, and everything's fine, Cole tells WRAL, which again, never speak to

those people. He's embarrassed and feels remorseful about what he said. Unc Athletics said they discussed the interview immediately after it happened, and Cole expressed regret, and he says his thirty five years of action supporting women's wrestling will speak louder than his words on the podcast. He previously coached at Stanford and Cornell. This is where we are now, and again, as many insane college stories as we do, rally coverage various moonbats in higher ed positions of power who

seem to have an oversized amount of press time. Vast majority of college students are just there to be college students, do the parties, date right, mingle with the opposite sex or the same sex for that matter, and are not really up in the politics. But this guy's apologizing already. Man, all right, So if you were deeply hurt, I'm sorry. I tried to warn you. But that's the controversy. Thank you. Casey is on nine w pt I and the Triad and one six one f M Talk in

the Triangle. When was the so, when was the last time you watched an actual NCAA wrestling match. Ross is a little kid. I've been uh, well, this story broke. So I was checking out some footage Ross and they're unhappy with the current state of college wrestling. And I'm disgusted at this coach because he pointed out that there's poet Listen, we need somebody with a better track record, we need an actual champion, we need a North

Carolina right natives, so representing North Carolina. Somebody who respects women. So somebody likes to woo women. Is that where we're going here? Did hey, did you know that there's no diet? That's what I was watching. I'm like, I watch these matches after seeing this story break. Not one pile driver, not one power bomb. Well, Rick Flair for coach? You want Rick Flair to coach collegiate wrestling? Yes, I do. You realize that there are things that are times he's won the world championship. You

know, you can't grab a chair. You can't grab a chair during I mean knowledge rests, technically you can't, right if the refuse watch it. That's why your manager comes in. You have somebody, like you know, a champion like Rick Flair who's going to distract him, or maybe you get an assistant coach who identifies as Cuban. Perhaps that'd be great. And uh is Uh has a skill set of distracting the the officials right right, they're

very good at it. I'm saying that one finger for yeah. I you know, I'm thinking about it as and admittedly it's been a long time, but as I understand, there are I guess there are technically certain pro wrestling style moves that you could technically get away with, right because you I mean a throws a thing. A lot of it's about where your hands are from what I remember, and again I only wrestled one year, and I did it because a lot of the guys that played football with that was kind of

their secondary thing, and I don't know, it wasn't for me. It wasn't for me. So I mean, just in just remembering, there's probably a few things you could do, but all of the stuff you listed you

can't do that. And I feel like that would be an actual liability for the coach, right if he's taking his team out there and he's like, all right, so today we're going to figure out how you can pretend throw an elbow into a fie faces so that they wander around holding their face and then you do a bunch of horribleness and then hit somebody with a chair. Like that's not going to be a day in practice. But you just want ric flair there, and you don't want it for the wrestling. You want

it for the press conferences? Am I being an accurate? I want it for the championships? Okay? I want somebody who's going to deliver Yeah, well styles, now one feather boa. So you want somebody who's both styling and profiling. Yes, yes, now you get it and you come over here, no no, no, out look I'm not invested in UNC's wrestling future reaching across the aisle and smacking you in the chest. Do you ever think that maybe he doesn't want to be the like it's just good to be

him, do you know what I mean? Right? None of that responsibility. I don't think he'd have to put in a lot of effort because it comes natural. I just think he'd just show up. He just bring a bunch of vhs is in from back in the day, exactly there, we'll watch this and then once you see do this. I mean, I don't have the information in front of me, just imagining. He probably gets you know, most most of us plubs. So we have to pay for the

w WE video membership. He probably gets that for free. No, that's probably probably contracted in. So would you say he might also have some advice for his his wrestlers, going and and drawing on his years of experience on what they you know, what they might do at his sorority party. Hey, I've already said he respects women and they respect him. They love oh,

they love the fans. I've seen some tape right or he is He's wearing his boa and is seemingly mobbed with women though it was very eighties ish most of the tape. Listen, but you know, whatever, no one pair of elegator shoes. Well, I think there they are. You know, it is probably pretty specifically defined what is acceptable gear. So that sounds like an NC double A issue or maybe an ACC issue and not something that

Rick Flair could just come in and change. Or maybe you know, if you and see here's that proposal that I put forth, and they're like, you know, that's ridiculous that guy say it always, it would be it would be bad for the school. Yes, maybe you should stick with the guy you have because maybe the controversy isn't actually a controversy. Yeah, well there is that. I'm just pointing out there are alternatives of if they want to go down that road. I just I it's I and I I don't

want to say I understand. And now that he's bent the knee already tyronically is from your wrestling coach, right, So even that description of it is more self defeating when you think about it. But ah, so annoying, perfect Friday story. But that's where we are, so I have so my question is just to stir the pod. Does that mean that Ariana Vigil, Chair of Department of Women's and Gender Studies doesn't think that the co eds are hot? Is she body shaming the women? Absolutely hideous? Oh my hideous

dude. Wait hold on, just because this will wildly irritate. Hold on, I you know I should have done this, all right, I haven't looked it up. So the this this staff member is mad. What do you think hot or not hot? You had to guess. I'm gonna look up I'm gonna look up a photo. I would say, I would say physically hot, but internally hideous and insufferable. I mean, last time I drove through Chapel Hill and I saw the females there, I just assumed they

were all in scholarship because they all look like the elephant woman. Like I don't know if there's been an elephant woman, there's been the elephant man. Like we know the elephant man. I'm like, oh my god, have family. I mean, which one is it? Are they attractive or are they hideous? Because I don't think what the coach said was insulting on any level. No, it was incredibly complimentary. Right. What do you You're getting mad at the dude for what do you want to go down the other

road. Well, no, that's what I'm saying. I projectile vomited under my windshield caused an accident because they were so hideous. I'm like, y'all, I'm assuming they give free scholar ships to these horribly ugly women there. Uh oh all right, wait, hold on, I just found it. All right, So your guess is, uh, well you're now you're going off of all right, you got your phone, grab your phone. This

textage is something there. I feel like I feel like I may be understanding some of the motivation though I think, yes, you know what, you know what I'm saying. I'm just I don't know. I can't think of the person that is pissed off? Is like the night the five percent? That because what do you say? The number was ninety five, so you think she's a part of the five percent. I didn't say that. I just simply said I have no opinion on the matter. I you know,

did you get the photo? Yeah? Okay, all right, hold on scying people. This is science. You're listening to science. But I mean, the guy was it was a joke, right, that's the thing. It wasn't even a joke. It was a lighthearted observation, exactly what I'm saying, right, he was. It was being funny. He was trying to be funny. Once upon a time we could be funnier at least attempt

or try to be funny. And now it's like, this is the same campus where you had people, you know, supporting Hamas right right now, it's okay, but this guy making a joke. Not even the campus, just lighthearted discussion. She looks like she has a great personality though, right, m what what probably funny people could get so upset. I don't honestly, I don't care. All right, well hold on, let me find all right? Did you do you do? All right? Sending you another

picture. It's a picture of one of the unc sororities from last year. Uh. It looks to me, I don't know, maybe like forty forty women in this uh in this photo? Do you do you feel that it's that it's good evidence or important aspects to at least consider when trying to figure out the motivations here, Because again, he didn't even he didn't say, oh, it's a bunch of beautiful women and they're easy, or like,

he didn't say anything disrespectful in evaluating what was going on. He made a very offhanded observation, and he did it as though he was providing thoughts from a perspective of what a eighteen or nineteen year old dude may think when going on a campus visit. And let me explain something to you, and I guess some of you who are more uptight will be shocked by this. When they bring a student athlete in for a campus visit, they're going to show

them a wide variety of things on campus. And it's going to be things like training facility. Right, here's the locker room. There's a reason university has put a lot of a lot of money into that. Here's the coaching staff. That's going to be something they care about. But also here's campus

life, right. And one of the things that they're going to go do, especially during when they have more organized visit windows for student athletes, is college kids are going to go to They're going to go experience some of the I want to say party is the wrong word. I mean that that probably will be some aspect of it, but you know, more of the recreational social offerings at the university, and that's that's going to be part of it.

And that's just the reality of it. And this guy's getting getting cooked for literally repeating what is likely something that a student athlete who went and visited a campus, if one of his buddies is like, hey, man, what'd you think, and he's like, oh man, we want some sorority parties. Holy cow, right, But it's not going to be the totality of it, probably even though they're full of hormones and they're eighteen nineteen whatever, right, but we'll be like, yeah, oh man, the coaches

were great. You should see the locker room facilities. They're great. Went to some sorority parties, Oh my gosh, right, it's going to be part of all of this. And yeah, I am harping on this because every single day it's something more and more innocuous, which is some grave insult when and it's not how the majority of people think. That's why I keep

saying this. The majority of college students are not represented by the one hundred or so they gather with their paraglide brochures screaming death to Israel or doing roly poly sitting weird protests. It's just not And whenever you do a story like this, and you treat it as though they get to dictate what the status

quo is. I'm gonna push back because that's not And what will happen is the majority of students, though, will sit there and go, you know what, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna put a toe in this water, I whatever. And you know they'll be more careful as to who they share

their opinions with. But it doesn't change human nature and human nature when you are eighteen years old and going into college and you're out a bunch of people that are you know, in as a as a from a totality or in the best shape of their lives, right their young skin has their skin has been ravaged by you know, twenty years of going to topsail, sitting in the sun, and and like that's that's part of the experience. And and you and you go through it and you mature, hopefully some of us don't,

and and you move on to prioritize different things in life. And yes, eventually you realize even if you're in that very shallow mindset when you're young and you're just like, ah, you know, do whatever I want. Uh, you know, eventually certain other things become priorities to you. Am

I am? I am I making sense here? Do you men or women listening to the show, do you prioritize the same things in your forties in somebody you may be attracted to or involved with, whether it is your husband or wife now, or you're dating or whatever it is, or just people you see. Do you prioritize the same things that you did when you were

eighteen? Corey? Probably not. I don't and I'm as I'm as immature as they come on a lot of stuff, the physical appearance, especially at that There's a reason that we have a whole generation of people who who have essentially nudes out there now right because it because it's it's socially acceptable among half of people in that age bracket to send people that they're even casually dating photos that would have been scandalous when I was that age and when many of you

were. So the fact fact that this is an individual who has to be able on some levels to identify with student athletes simply recognizing something that they may prioritize that we got to do a big story on this is absurd and for a news agency like ARIL to run around and be like, oh, this is so horrible, we need to get experts and all of this. Let me ask you a question. If it's so doesn't matter, why do your on screen television hosts, reporters, anchors, all the rest. Why do

they put even five minutes into their appearance? Seriously, why doesn't somebody just show up to read the news, hair, disheveled outfit, you know whatever? I call it the radio model? Is that what you do? Or do you demand that your anchors and your TV reporters where a certain level of attire, have their hair done, go through makeup, and genuinely attempt to have an appealing on air demeanor and look, could you do it? Absolutely

one percent? I don't see a guy running around in a I went to New Mexico and all I got was this lousy shirt, joke shirt with a little mustard stain on it, looking like they got BedHead because they slept on their face and it's all red. And now they have like the weird front mohawk thing going. You don't, because we recognize the way that you look has some impact. Act, I'm beating a dead horse here, but I don't mean to, all right, I need to take a break. We'll

be back. No, all right, good morning, everybody. Welcome to get your hour number two here on the k c O Day radio program phone number. When we got call, Yeah, we got this one. Oh man, I got a bunch of people hold him. They're like, ah, I gotta go to work. Okay, Well we'll get hang on. Those of you who are still holding will get your calls. And that's good because somebody sent me an email and I was kind of you know, sometimes I'm fishing for a response. It's an old radio trick, right, And

this is good because this is going to make my point for me. Ca See, he is supposed to be a role model in the lives of his students. So if we're wanting men to see more in women than just outward physical appearance, then that's the attitude that he needs to provide. If he is simply reducing women to only their outward appearance, that is not a benefit in helping to shape young student athletes. He's not. See, here's the

deal. When you say reducing, you're imploied that there is a much thicker dossier if he will, right, So somebody knows somebody, they know how you know personality, how they interact with folks, what they like, what they don't like, and then obviously what they look like, because we got eyeballs. And that person chooses to disregard all of that other information and only base their opinion on somebody on their looks, which, by the way,

you're welcome to do. It's not a winning strategy in life, though, But that's not what he's saying. What the coach was pointing out is if you're some kid who comes for a visit and you're you're you know, you're getting the campus tour, and you swing by those sorority houses there on I can't remember whi street that is there, but I've I've driven down that road and you're glancing over, You're like, oh man, look at that.

That's not an unusual reaction for an eighteen year old because the only information he may have now on his potential fellow students is what he sees. He doesn't know them, he doesn't know anything about him. He doesn't know their name and know what they're majoring in, what they like, don't like, hobbies like. He doesn't know any of that, doesn't know the personality. So

it's not reducing somebody to that. He's simply pointing out how somebody may react based on what is largely the first nugget of information we find out about people. That's why I love radio. That's why I love radio. Ross. You would say, you know, Ross and I are like, I don't. I I want to be I want to be straight up real all right, we're going to Realville. Ross, we're Ross and I are like nine's maybe nine and a half. We put the effort in. We're not tens.

You would agree, right, you don't roll out. It been a ten that takes work. Yeah, natural state, natural baseline probably nine yeah, yeah, nine and a half if you really get all you know gussied up right, and we accept that. That's fine. And that's why, you know, in the world of radio, since you know you can't see us, we have to let other aspects of our personality shine through. Now, for some of you, including Megan, to send me this email,

she obviously she doesn't have a high opinion of me. Actually, it wasn't an implied email. I shouldn't look. I'm not going to imply that. And I don't know anything about you, ma'am. I know what you wrote here. And by the way, I don't think your email was disrespectful. But now the totality of what I know about you is you feel that this kind of behavior isn't what you would want in a wrestling coach. Fine, that's it. This is this is how we go through life. This is

the reality. So yeah, and you know, am I am I am I taking too much time on it. Some of you probably think so, But it's there's there's a lot of layers here. There's the absurdity of this guy having to apologize for this when he's speaking as somebody who's trying to put his he's trying to get in the head of somebody who may be coming to the university. By the way, some coaches have a philosophy as to how they even feel about their student athletes being in relationships and and some would argue

that's none of their business. I knew a guy. He's passed away, but I got to know him. He he played college football for Bear Bryant at the University of Alabama. And he wasn't a big dude, and he was alignment. He played guard right and his nickname I won't give you his real name, but his nickname was Tank all right, but he was He was a slight guy, but was fat. I love talking to him back in the day because I got to know him. Just with this group of

guys I played golf with, I got to know him. He played for Bear Bryant, which in the world of college football is a pretty legendary thing, right, And it was very interesting to hear stories of how Bear Bryant was an influence in his life and how he handled relationships at the time, because you know, this is going back fifty sixties. Man, he was married. He's in college and he's married. A lot of the players were, and the football players weren't allowed to with her wives during the season,

right. So that was that coach's philosophy on on what he thought of that. So I knew a legendary coach in US in Philly. It was a boxing coach and he was He was famous for saying that women weaken legs. It's a good point. How's that guy doing? He passed away? Man? Oh no, he passed away before before a fight. Oh wow, okay, and not just the other day. No, it wasn't not Paulie. Wait, you think the legendary coach is Paulie. Oh my god, we're talking Mick here, buddy. All right, all right, all right,

I'm sorry. Do you know what I was? I was off in my own thing. I just dropped to an eight point seventy five, I think, honestly, I think it read too hard on yourself. Solid eight. Oh wow, okay, I really appreciate that. But there's also there's also where we write an article like this, the dude apologizes and and the impression is given that the majority of people think like this, and they just don't because you're never going to eradicate human nature. You're never going to eradicate

human nature. And human nature when you're eighteen is not the same as when you're twenty, or you're thirty or you're forty. I'm assuming I don't want to get too deep here. I'm assuming Ross that your decision to marry your wife was not purely aesthetic. Right, That is correct? Right? There were there were personality traits and things that you agree you both hated. It's not fair, though, because I hit the jackpot, right, No,

I got bulld I got like Scarlett Johansson's clone. Yeah, I got all the good qualities, like if my life was an RPG, and you're like putting stats in the luck, I'm like, eleven out of ten makes it. I wouldn't believe it. I'd be like this movie uh if no, and you being just a nine right but still able to get that oh completely right. No, So, and I refuse to buckle to the idea that that the majority of people because the majority of people don't. But what happens

is more and more people will simply not say anything. And that's where this is problematic, because pure pressure, even if it's peer pressure applied by people who agree with them but feel that they have to they have to abide by this mentality that you're not allowed to have an opinion on whether you want to go to a sorority party as a college athlete. It's just dumb. And

also, let me let me just put this out there. I would suspect if you were to get uh, you know, get some truth serum in uh in some of these uh you know, these sorority girls, they may be more prioritized in a in a social setting to talk to somebody who's a member of the men's wrestling team versus the men's chest team. You get what I'm driving at and there's nothing wrong with that. Look there, there's there's

all it's it's it's good to be old enough to recognize that. If that is the totality of your reason for wanting to be around somebody, it's it's a losing battle, right, there's a reason there. The crazy hot matrix thing, Okay, but you have to you have to, through self discovery get there. And look, I know people I have friends that are closer to my age that that is all they prioritize. And you know they're not

successful in the long term, but that's for them whatever. So yes, that's why I bring it up because it's more than just what he said. It's how we react to this and we all pretend that it's that reality doesn't exist. And as I told you here on this show, it's all about Reelsville. Man. That's why I can admit that Ross and I are not telling how many of the problems are the news stories that we cover, right, the quote stories, they're not really stories. This is people over reacting

like this one are because people will not acknowledge human nature and reality. And you get a lot of them, oh yeah, oh, so many of them, and look, are there things within human nature that are undesirable? And uh you should push back on Sure, absolutely, I got no problem

with that. But I'm not going to pretend, like the majority of people think that seeing somebody who you don't know anything about and making some sort of judgment, even if it's not a total judgment, but some sort of judgment based on the first thing that you notice, which is the physical appearance, is unnatural. I'm not going to play that game. So we'll sit here and do this and we'll see what you think. Eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four mark, what's up? Hey, Good morning,

Casey. I was just going to let you know. I don't know if you were around back in the Matt Doherty here with UNC basketball, but he got caught on a hot mic moment during a time out with during the Carolina Duke game saying that, well, at least Duke's cheerleaders are still the ugliest in the A c C. And he got a whole lot of trouble for that. Yeah, you know, And here's the thing too, do you think he actually meant that or do you think that that was him trash talking

an opponent? Right? You know what I'm saying right exactly, Duke Carolina game. It's a time out late in the game. He's trying to you know, lighten his guys up and you know, get them, get them hyped up like a late bush. So I mean that's this is again, this is this is human nature, but it's also trying to be honest and exploratory about why people say things. And and apparently there's no room for that. No, I wasn't aware. I know who he is, I wasn't

aware of that though. That's funny. So now there's a reason. Look, there's a reason, there's a there's a joke that I've heard people use about whatever their college rivals. Su What team do you root for, sir? What's your college team? Carolina? Okay, Carolina? So you so the version of this joke would be and it's not just a Duke joke. I've heard it for Iowa, Minnesota, whatever. Uh. And it has to do with the cheerleaders. Do you know why Duke has artificial turf?

And I don't know that they do, but do you know why they have artificial so the cheerleaders raise half time? Yes, Yes, that doesn't have anything to do with individual that's people making fun of their rivals. It's also stupid. So all right, all right, thanks mane, all right, thanks sir. Ross. I can say that Mark, and I'm comfortable. Mark sounds like he's probably a nine nine and a half. Right, I would argue that our audience is probably the best looking, would you say so?

It yea easily, Yeah, I mean it's just just uh, you know, it's basically Zoolander. That's this, that's this audience. I'll make that judgment right now. Everything's so stupid, man, Everything is done, Anthony, real quick. What's up? Well, just that he said that the women were attractive. Yes, you're attracted to You're attracted to them, so you know, that's what gets gets you to know somebody. More about

somebody, You can't you're not attracted to somebody's brain. You can't see I mean, you can see how these people are, but you see how smart people are something. Yeah, or look, some people will meet individuals and and the amount of people that I meet based on you know, events that we do or some sort of social setting and they're like, oh man,

where they go. Oh the voice doesn't look you know, your voice doesn't look like you look that's somebody whose first iteration of getting to know me was on the radio, right, so it runs that, damnit is the point that I'm making. All right, Anthony, I got I gotta roll to break. But thank you very much for the call there all right, phone number eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four all of that. One of our fine female listeners says, we're both ten's ross. So that's

good. You know what I like about our audience, the willingness to drink this early in the morning, very much appreciated. All right, eight eight eight. I do have other stories. I promise I'll get to them. We'll continue to get your calls on this and other important issues. Also, Pete Calender, he'll join us. That's coming up eight oh five. And boy boy, do we got a lot to get into. And speaking of looks, wait till you hear what Maxim's done. More on that coming up,

keeping you connected. This is ninety four in the Triad and one six one FM Talk in the Triangle. All right, welcome back. It is seven point thirty six Aco Day Radio program. I'll tell you what's really offensive. Some guy who's not married trying to explain to the rest of us how human attraction works, ma'am, did you well, actually, I don't know that. It's a many hold on your email address, looks Yeah, that's

right. I'm gonna look it up. Uh did you ever consider for a moment, I didn't want to rob the world of the possibility of this. I mean just saying like you don't know the motivation. I'm just again, I'm just telling it like it is, so you don't have to listen. Oh look at that, okay, yeah, so I can see your email address and then I can see your Facebook. Now, man, Ross, what do you think the relationship status of this person who sent that email is?

Who's uh looks probably about my age. I don't know how old you are. Ross, What do you think somebody who wants to take this What do you think the relationship status might be of this individual on Facebook? Divorced? Yeah? Yeah, that's what it is, which is fine. Look, I don't know your life story. Maybe you know, maybe it didn't work out for good reason. I'm not going to sit here and judge you.

But that's certain hypocrisy, you know, sending that email so your kids look adorable, by the way, So good for you, all right, let me get over to a couple other things. I could literally, I could dwell on this topic all day because it's just just one of those things that eventually it adds up and it just pushes my buttons and then I start stripping it down and thinking about it more, and we get there, but we do have to pivot to a couple other things. So what happens when

an unstoppable force hits in a movable object? We get all sorts of moon bat insanity news. So this yesterday, So the just stop oil idiots, right? You know them as the folks who like to glue themselves to stuff, throw soup on paintings, tangle with res officers out in Nevada, and what is some of my favorite video of the year, The climate change balls decided one of the vehicles they wanted to stop was going to be a bus full of migrants, and let me tell you that bus wasn't having any of

their insanity hold on. Right? Do some of their voices sound like the fake voices you and I would do if we're joking, by the way they they do. But I don't feel that they're joking though I think they're No, they're real bye. From what I'm viewing anyway, I love the stuff that that that they yelled to because you know, it's this feigned. I can't believe this is happening, even though it's literally what they set out to the whole thing is so ridiculous. It's such and I've been like this morning,

I was super stressed. We have like, you know, we're fixing stuff from the house house Mark. He's been sick all week. Yeah, you guys are like doing the roof things. Yeah, we have like the insurance guy coming out later on. It's like, I have a super stressed and not sleeping well and just seeing this video loading the audio and the video up on the blog at Casey in the Radio, Oh my god, it

brought me so much joy. It is just what I needed. It's not as good, but it's not as good as the res thing right in Nevada with the reservation police, like yeah, we're you know, because I think it might be better because when you watch the video, if you're looking at the bus, you can see the one guy right in front with his arms folded, just kind of staring at these lunatics, and it's just, oh my god, it's chef's kiss. Oh all right, well again that's a

Casey on the radio dot com. We'll tweet out a link. You should watch its. Look at the joy it brought into Ross's life. There's a guy later on, like in the audio cut where he's just like, we're in the road, you idiots, And I'm like, who's the idiot here? That's why I wanted to stop and point out the wasting. So the real goodness? All right, so here is here's the rest of that cut.

On the ground, you idiot while they're wearing these vests that are made out out of petroleum, wearing sneakers that are the rubber made out of fossil fuels. Oh, now, you don't backpacks that are made out of petroleum and fossil fuels. It's like, there's such hypocrites. Yeah, but you can't just hold your bong, right, you gotta protect it from the elements. Now, it's it's theater kid overload, right, you know what I'm saying. It's and and and by the way, that's not even a knock

on kids. My sister did. She was she was really into theater. She's a very well adjusted, nice person, a little bit of a moonbet. But but but this is theater kid on crack stuff man, and it's so deeply satisfying and and I don't know if it would be if they weren't playing it up in that sense. And look at that, I made a snap judgment. I don't know any I don't know anything about these idiots. I only know what I see in this video. And it's not even just

appearance driven. It's me evaluating what is going on here. And yeah, again human nature swoops in and I'm like, I don't feel like I'd want to hang out with any of these kids. But there's also like going back to the story you were saying with the on the on the reservation rate, Yeah, the previous story, there's like a hierarchy here that these people don't

seem to understand. Right, there's a salt is so interesting, Yes, because it's a bus full of migrants, right, And to your point, the hierarchy is we're we're a bunch of rich white kids from Laguna Beach, right if we're gonna right, or from New York City who've never been told no and are likely clearly funded by their parents who were just like you know what, it's better in having them live at home. And they decided that

they were gonna go manuymno, with a bunch of Native Americans. That's is that the hierarchy you're referring to. By the way, yes, so buss full of migrants. This is why you got to pick your targets, right, you want to go and screw with the executives at Porsche. I'm still gonna laugh at you when they turn the lights off and you have to go, you know, you gotta go. We wi like that's funny to me. But in this case, busfull of chock full of migrants, who's gonna

win? And we get this deeply satisfying video? All right? Eight eight eight nine three four seven eight seven four. Speaking of looks, I back in the day, I was a fan of mac some magazine Ross. Did you enjoy a good Maxim magazine back in the day, Yeah, yeah, that was great. Look it's it's not Playboy, but let's face it, it was good stuff. It was one of the few I subscribed to good, good cooking tips in there. I think it was probably my motivation.

Well, that's jumped the shark man. Maxim magazine put out their you know, their hottest, hottest women, and obviously this was a concept that is not made for current current opinions. Again, not majority opinions, but those squeaky wheels who get the grease. So I guess this is their way of adapting. We'll let you know what they're up to coming up right now. Seven forty five Race Stagic, whose team is on buy so stressed for a week for him? Yeah yeah, yeah, is well. On the other

end, it's not NFL. It is stress free and I like it. Why what's your what's the fact? Look, Clemson is not as good as people thought they were going to be. You can admit that, right, they got they got some stuff to work on. Okay, all right, yeah, but they still want to beat Miami, right ACC big match up there, so yeah, look, you know, I know that there's all this discussion about what's going to become of the ACC, who's going to be in, who's going to be out, But there's some really good matchup.

Duke Florida State. I'm really looking forward to that. Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's a there's a great football this weekend. I'll be at a concert tomorrow night. But uh, George straight if no, we were done. I don't go into the movie midday Sunday going to the movie. What. Yeah. Oh I love Taylor Swift, huge fan. I met her a country radio seminar back when she first came on the scene at the New Faces dinner. Somebody in the building is probably familiar with that, if

you're not yourself. Yeah, no, no, no, I actually and banally, I met Taylor Swift right when she first broke onto the scene because she came in, she was in the studio, she was going to different studios doing interviews, sure, and I had no at that point, I didn't know who she was. So yeah, my daughters hate us because me and my wife had an opportunity to meet her and actually have the new Face to the you know, the tagging carry around at the seminars, and it's

personally autographed to my daughter, Taylor Swift. So yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah, Simon, every now and then, this job has some benefits. Yeah that was then there's no benefits. Tomorrow night, I ain't meeting nobody. I think somebody'd come through for a straint concert. Man, that's all. That's good stuff. I've like my fourth time. I've never seen Carrie Underwood, little big town, I think, and Willian friends this and Friend's part makes me nervous, Spud. I think it'll be okay. But

as you mentioned, a lot of great football this weekend. You got Penn State, Ohio State, Alabama, Tennessee. That's always a big one too. And as you said in the ACC, a couple of big matches, I mean, Pittwake Forest isn't really huge. Butt attention. I need to pay attention to anything other than what's gonna happen Monday night, because I feel like riding confidently, huh. I feel like San Francisco may feel like they need to make an example of somebody and unfall. I hope that doesn't happen

to you. Anyway, ball games tonight, we should be better as you go further west, so into the mountains as we're looking at some rain showers already starting to sneak into the triad this morning, and this darn radar would work here. Somebody feed the hamster. Yeah, okay, so I just hit it on the side, Yeah, just kick it or something, right,

Wilkes County, Alexander County. There's more back behind that. So west east here this morning, starting to see the showers command probably late morning through the triangle. A few thunderstorms are also possible. Low seventies will start to pick up a gusty southwest breeze. It's still a threat for some showers thunder

showers tonight, but ending west to east. So Friday night football, I think it's nothing but leftovers, but fairly breezy, and of course it's sudden return for the weekend, so if it is local football teams or outdoor plans, mazes, pumpkin patches. Still that time of year, right, A little breezy to windy at times and upper sixties to low seventies with lows in the upper forties to low fifties at night. And you know, we could go most of next week with no rain and sunshine and a warming trend.

Next week looks like it's going to beautiful. So some great weather. We get through this stuff today in early tonight and we should be done with it. I got a beef with those corn mazes, though we got a lot of them around North Litta Way. I don't go no, no, no no, I'll explain it to the audience coming up here, just because I looked at the clock. But we'll chat with you one more time. Appreciate

it. So all right, there you go, Race Stagic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like I feel like we we we woosked out on those two. I'll explain what I mean coming up, hang on the show. After the show, he's on the iHeart Radio app. Search Casey O Day for the podcast on the iHeart Radio apps. All right, well, I I guess I misread your earlier emails, Roz. This dude's been sending me email. I thought he was joking. This guy really thinks he saw a wolf and wake for Yeah, you see what you have started.

Some of us have been saying this for years, which is why you know, somebody has to do something. Vote Hayes for Shure. You're getting people are hallucinating, because that's what motivated me to run, because it was that one day I got up for work, it was like three thirty in the morning. I opened my door there uh huh, and just surrounded by a pack of rabid wolves. This guy theorizes it's a red wolf. I don't

even get me started on the red wolf thing. But but those would be the wolves down you know, like when you're headed towards Mannio and all that going through the swamp there. I don't know, man, but I thought he was joking, but he's serious. So you but in a way, you want there to be wolves no matter you know how they might be hunting people just so you look right. Although there ever was an actual wolf,

I would I would start a rumor. You planted it so well at that point, I mean, my psychic ability would be proven to be off the chart. Just put me in the catacombs of the Pentagon and some sort of government programming just got me right, yes, and you would, uh, what the goats? You would do the thing with sat right, Yeah, okay. Maxim magazine putting out their Hottest hundred Women list with a twist at the number ninety two spot Daniel Laidley. Daniel Laidley is didn't start as Danielle

started as Daniel to catch my drift, you know. Maximum obviously putting a list together of something that is so esthetically based has taken grief. So I don't know if this is their way of coping. But nope, how about nope? And I love it because obviously they didn't do any other research because lately's got a little bit of a history and actually has like convictions for stalking. Oh and actually didn't go by Daniel, initially went by Dean at the

time of the stalking arrests. Let's see here. Yeah, so number ninety two of the Hottest Women in the World includes what used to be a dude or I guess arguably genetically would still be a dude, but was thrown on the list. I also like how they're like, oh, but you could only find that, and then you put them at ninety two. Then you're just pandering, which is apparently the opinion of people who want want the list to have more. I guess the bud Light what do you want? You

want bud Light spokesperson their top ten or something. I like, I don't know what you're asking for. And as somebody who actually pays attention to this stuff. So if you do, look, if you if you travel, if you travel internationally, one of the things that you can do before you go somewhere is they keep they keep recommendations on the US State Department website and

it will tell you like and you can bet your butt. Before I went to Columbia and Equidor and all that, I did some reading and they'll tell you like places to avoid certain issues that are out there, but it's it's generally, it's not like always a whole country. You gotta like, there's really got to be a lot going on where they're like, yeah, if you're an American, you shouldn't travel there. But I've never seen this.

The US State Department has issued a world wide caution travel advisory, warning American citizens to be aware in as they travel anywhere outside the US, as they say that the possibility of terrorist attacks and other dangerous situations has increased. So Ross, going back to your psychic ability, are you going to claim to have called this too? Ross won't go anywhere except EPCOT. I wasn't listening. I'm just gonna say, yeah, they'll go in my gut, all

right. US officials issue the rare alert previously once in August of twenty twenty two, following the killing of al Qaeda leader Zuwari and oh and not just one, and then when we greased that dude with dogs. So yeah, yeah, So if you're thinking of leaving the the US of A, just know that. The State Department says it may not be a good idea, But I thought that was pretty crazy. All right, we got lots to get into Pete Calendar. Yeah, radio buddy, he joins us next Friday

round up coming up. All right, good morning every press buddy, and happy Friday, eight oh seven kc O day for radio program. The shallowest show of all the shallow shows. Sorry, somebody called us very shallow. That's fine, badge of honor. We'll wear it. And to help us really really ratchet it down, we welcome in our radio buddy to the South Pete Calendar, mid Day's WBT catch it on the iHeartRadio app. Good morning, sir, how you doing? Hey, good morning? How are you

are you? Are you fully engrossed in the UNC wrestling controversy? Are you familiar? Do you know what's up? No? Oh? No? Oh wow? Okay. So UNC hired a new wrestling coach, announced about a month and a half ago. Former UNC wrestler. He holds records both at UNC, won a national cha championships, that own some acc records. Probably a good guy to bring in his coach, right, you would think, I don't know, have we checked his social media or whole Well, we

don't have to because he went on a podcast Pete. Oh yes, yes. He went on a podcast and was talking about why, you know, why would students want to come to UNC to be part of the wrestling program. Which way, look, when you have a coach, recruiting is a topic that yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, And so I wanting to provide perspective from, you know, the eyes of somebody who has been through

it. Right, a good wrestler in high school, recruited by top level universities, did the campus visits, and you know what that perspective may look like. He put himself in the shoes of potential student athletes, and he he said something so heinous and so horrible that his name is Rob Cole, that the chair of the Department of Women's and Gender Studies felt that she needed to weigh in on this. I'm going to play it for you. You've been warrened, Pete. It's very offensive. But you know, part of

our job is to evaluate this stuff. So here we go. That's so worried about Chapel Hill. First of all, it's sixty percent women, for God's sakes, and in ninety five percent of are are attractive, now, you know, and it's just a really neat little campus for young eighteen to twenty two year old men. You know, I mean, good lord, why do you know? What'd you? I want to go there? And

it was so funny when and they had this sorority. They had the sority on the weekend while I was there last weekend, and I look at it, it's like ninety five percent girls are like, why do we not have a recruiting again this week? Yes, that's right. He pointed out that some of the female some of the co eds might be attractive and that that may be appealing to you know, nineteen year old hormone riddled young men,

and and he's already apologized. So is that well all right? Well now it's like very difficult for me to, you know, try to defend the guy right first off, because he's a he's a wrestler, so he's perfectly capable of defending himself better than I could defend him. But but you never, never, never apologize for this stuff. He didn't say anything wrong. So about what am I to believe that that dating and lusting and wanting to hook up? I mean, like that's part of the that's or sorry that

that's not part of college? Is that? Is that what I'm to believe that there's what no, and and thank you for you, because I've irritated some people and I'm I'm I'm pointing out that I refuse to not I refuse to further divorce myself from reality. Because Ariana Vigil is chair of the Department of Women's and Gender Studies. And I did look up her profile because I am a shallow and you know, I'm not gonna put words in your mouth, but I wonder if you know, maybe college wasn't as fun as some

of these sorority girls are having. But she also is a LATINIX studies person, so she has the going with Latins, yea with Latins or whatever. It is, okay, But the way that it is because r E l I know you're shocked is who did the story? She is? She?

She is not how even most of the kids on that campus think. And and I can present this from empirical evidence because you've seen the stats were like if you go on like the Tenders or the other dating apps, like only ten percent of the men really get the response because there is that physical thing

and the same thing. I know you're shocked, And Pete, would you say that the things that you as an eighteen year old young man versus Pete calendar of today, would you say that what you may have prioritized in somebody that you wanted to spend time with has evolved, right versus eighteen year old Pete. Absolutely, there's absolutely. And the way that it's presented is that

Ariana Vigil is the voice of reason here and and she's not. But we are in we're in this situation where people will hold their tongue because everyone else will pretend that she has the right thought here, and she doesn't. She's wrong, She's wrong. And that's how even most of the kids these days we look at college campuses and we see the ones, you know, holding their death to Israel rally, but the majority of college kids are just there

to be college kids. Man, So that it's her, what's what's what was the criticism that like, what's your argument here? Is saying I'm gonna read it. I read it to you, okay, m comment this is quote. Comments such as that made on the podcast support unfortunately, support misogyny and hetero sexism, reducing reducing female students to their physical beauty, and implying that women's value is measured by their attractiveness to men. And my argument was,

you can't reduce it because it's it's the only data point. Do you know what I'm saying. It's not like they have a full they know a Jacqueline, right co Ed Jacqueline who who's hot but all also has a sense of humor is a double major. You don't know all of that, so you can't reduce it from that. The only thing that you know when you're a kid coming for a campus visit, driving by a sorority house where women

are sunning on the lawn is what you see out the car window. But that's your argument, So you know, it's almost like the well because what he's talking about is recruiting, and why didn't we bring these guys to the campus when you see all of the women all around? And look, I went to Winter University and at the time you Winter used to be an all female teacher college where women came through and became teachers. And they changed that when co ed sometime, I want to say, like the early eighties or

something. And by the time I showed up, there were a lot of guys there, but it was still like an eight to one ratio of females to males and like identifying that that obvious truth is not misogynistic. It's saying that, hey, guys, if you're looking for your forever mate, you might have a better shot here. Then if you, you know, go to some other college in the middle of Alaska focusing on some hard sciences or something and it's like ninety nine percent dudes. Or go to Oberlin right or

go to Oberlin right now? Yeah, that crazy university. Yeah, yeah, you see, Santa Barbara. That was like, that was the the uh male to female ratio and its inclusion on playboys party schools. That is something that believe it or not, eighteen year old me paid attention to. Well, this is the thing is it's You're right, it's not, but

it is part of a larger context. But if you are simply, as you said, driving through, then what other data points do you do you collect because you cannot you're not going to Yes, you go and then you meet this students. You have these opportunities to go and meet the other co eds, the students that are there, and maybe find somebody that that you would want to hang out with and have a relationship with. I keep thinking

of this image. You ever, if you've ever bought a house and you walk, you're walking through and like it's almost it's almost in every house they stick a rocking chair with an open book on it and they put it next to a window, right, And the idea is that you're selling this. You're selling an idea. Oh, and what everybody always says it, Oh, I could sit here and read, No, you're not. You're not gonna sit there and read that's they're selling you on that. That's the pitch.

You know, it's like, oh, look at this, how relaxing it is. It's like the cooking of the apple pie in the oven and the open house. You know, it's supposed to conjure up these ideas and that helps to sell you on buying the house. And it's the same thing here. You're trying to sell these kids on coming to the school. But I also, I'm unclear, So would would it have been better if the wrestler coach guys if he had said that they were not attractive? Would that

have been the better thing? By by even having an opinion on that, he crossed into hetero sex sexism, right, which I guess is the thing now. I guess which. First off, I mean, I think, like, honestly, I just I think that that defies the law of averages, the ninety five percent number that he threw out there. So if anything, he's like, he's over selling it. You're gonna tell me ninety five percent are quote attractive, like to whom because there's a lot of different things

that people find attractive that others do not. Yeah right, So you ever met somebody too by the way that you thought was you know, approaching nine or ten, but then when you met him, you're like, wow, that is a horrible person. Yes, right, yeah, right, right, that's yeah right, And that's that's why you're not supposed to simply look at somebody and say, oh, like know, I'm in love with this person. No, what matters inside, what's inside matters, And that's what

I thought was the whole point of getting to know somebody. But you cannot deny that there that there are physical attributes that have been you know, handed down through generations, but also culturally, like you know, long time ago, not a long time ago, but a couple hundred years ago. If you were pale, then that was attractive because it meant that you were not working outside in the fields and your you know, Lily White's skin had not

burned, and now that has, that has flipped. And you know, all growing up having a tan, that indicated that you were you know, you had enough money. Basically you were privileged enough to be able to lay out and get a tan, and that became, uh, the standard of beauty. Right, These things change over time, and uh, you know, somebody pointing out that this is what the culture holds up as attractive. I don't find it offensive. I don't find and I darn sure don't find

it misogynistic. It's not at all of any think it's the opposite. It's for me, it's a refuse. I just refuse to participate anymore because she is not the majority opinion. But we are in a cult. We are in a culture now where people who even people who who disagree with her right and think it's dumb, will participate in the punishing of people for holding the very same opinion they do but don't dare verbalize. And it's not just in this setting, it's it is it is the thing that drives cancel culture.

Right. He apologizes. He apologizes immediately, saying he's embarrassed and feels remorseful. Right, and that's the but that's the whole point. It is to create chaos and to make people unsure. It's this is a form, it's gas lighting to an extent, and that it forces everybody to question their their gut, their initial thoughts on things and think, okay, well maybe I

am wrong. That's the point, right, This is the this is the point of the critical studies is to tear down these inst institutions, to basically go after the concept of what is real in and of itself. And when you can tear that down, now you've got a malleable public that's like, I'm not sure did he say, Well what he said was, I don't know, maybe it is misogynistic. Oh, I don't want to be a misogynist, and so I'm going to fall in line with that. But meanwhile,

you're tearing apart the very concepts of reality. And when you do that, now that public becomes way more easily led to other ideas that might not be you know, let's just say, you know, less than pressing as whether or not. Ninety five percent of the of the females on campus at UNC Chapel Hill are attractive quote unquote in whatever subjective means that or definition that is, by the way, And then I have women listeners emailing going, you know what if I was one of those co eds, I'd be like,

thank you right right? Right? Would you hook process? Yes? Right? Yeah, Oh, there's a whole bunch of ugly people on this campus. You should come here, like that's the pitch? Why would you make that pitch? And then of course, you know all of the people from the TV station, ral, from the anchors who threw to the reporter who's doing the story, have all seen a half hour in wardrobe, right, so that they are physically what it's not radio, right, There's a

reason we do radio. You know. These are people that are obsessed with the way they look and obsessed with optics and visuals, and they get they look. I'm not going to say anything about their individual expertise and journalisming. I am going to say though, that looks matter, Okay, looks matter, And every woman working in television news knows that, particularly the ones that have been around for a long time and start seeing their opportunities dry up,

because that's that industry. It's one of the of the dirty secrets about TV news is that as people get older, they become less intelligenic and they don't want to be on The consultants and the managers and the people that run everything, they don't want them on the air for much longer because they're not as attractive as the young, spunky, perky new girl that's going to come in and read the news to them, which somebody else wrote, yes, yeah,

And to not at any point have that self realization while doing this story, like they had to think it at some point, but again, you don't verbalize it. And I'm not going to participate where Ariana Vigil's opinion is seen as the majority opinion. I just want people to be honest, and if we were, I think a lot of this would get rejected. All right, we just got a bunch of time on that, so let me

real quickly. The redistricting maps, the EMS and I everything's crazy. The Republicans are they got control of the Supreme Courts, so now they're going to they're going to lock themselves in for one hundred years of ruling. The reactions

yesterday I got about a minute and a half. I'm assuming lawsuit city that's what's coming oh yeah, absolutely, so, Like that's the nice thing about living in North Carolina is that while all of the rest of the country has congressional districts gerrymandered or drawn for them for a decade, North Carolina we get

to redo hours about every two years thanks to the lawsuits. And you know, the irony there is that you know, you keep doing it and keep doing it, and you don't allow for the natural population shifts to minimize the effects of you know, abusive jerrymandering, because they do eventually like the sharpness of the gerrymanders, whether the districts, they soften over time because population moves well, and you know what, do you want to stick around for an

extra segment or you got stuff? Yeah? Sure, okay, all right, well we're going to hit a break and then we'll do It's gonna be a long break. But because I want to get it, I think people fail to understand what what the intent of drawing the districts as stated and some of the rules are, and it gets lost in all of these allegations. So a little more on that coming up, because it's frankly, I think

it's worthwhile to remind folks and also more shallow stuff. I'm sure coming up with our guests, Pete Calendar. Hang on, this is one O six one FM Talk in the Triangle and News Talk ninety four or five w PTI and the Triad. All right, good morning, welcome back, eight thirty six. We're continuing to get a bonus time our conversation, our Friday conversation with Pete Calendar. There we go, come on phone screeners, a weird

Oh all right, now my phone clear? Well, no, I think my you know what, I think my phone might have been attacked by the Israeli Air Force. So yeah, I have nothing up, but yeah, right, no, that does happen. I'm os. If i'm off tells you it's so, then you just run with that fog of war Pete. So yeah, am I to know. We'll watch on that here in just a moment. Let me get back to the redistricting things. So yeah, look, in the world of redistricting, North Carolina has seen a significant amount

of lawsuits. Obviously, we went through the Special Master, which I see reporting where they mentioned that, but they also failed to mention that in that instance they found that the Special Master may not have been as impartial. Would that be a fair way to say it, as I think that's a very fair way to say it at least. Yeah, And we got a North Carolina Supreme Court ruling on that issue that was befuddling, would be a polite way to describe it, where like new law was just made up wholesale,

that is the history of this. Are Republicans going to redistrict in a way that they think is politically advent Yes, yes, absolutely, and you know why because we don't have case law unless you make it up. That speaks to where you are not able to do that. And so as long as that is a thing that continues to play out in both directions, I would point you to Illinois, State of New York and others. That's the reality.

And again we're all about reality here. So my question is now the Supreme Court in North Carolina has flipped the US Supreme Court is what it is, and they pretty much indicated they don't want to they don't want to wait in on this issue. What what where do you think we end up in? Uh? Because I feel like it's just going to look like the map that they offered, which was much more concise when compared to maps from twenty years ago. I feel like all of this is going to put us right

back where we would have been. Right. So, what I've been told is that the Democrats' history over a century's worth of gerrymandering to keep themselves in power, that that is irrelevant. None of those old maps matter. Roy Cooper being the head of the redistricting stuff and drawing maps that were jerrymandered out the law zoo, none of that is applicable now. And every now and again you'll get one or two that Democrats will say, well, you know

that was wrong, that was wrong when they did it. But I wasn't here at the time, and I totally would have been, you know, in favor of creating a better system. Here's the problem is that redistricting is inherently a political process. Inherently so, and the State of North Carolina has for the legislative races, it has a set of rules. It's right, it's in the constitution. Right. You look at the rules, like number

one, the big one is the whole county provision. Right, You're not supposed to break up a county and split it all up and send different parts to different districts. So you can give yourself power. So once you start applying the rules that already exist and the case law, because this is where you get into the county groupings or as the Democrats call it, clusters,

and I don't know why they have a different name. I think it's just sort of like a backhanded kind of insult kind of deal, like, oh, it's a cluster, you know, but yeah, yeah, population right, and so that their groupings. And so once you start following these rules, you really don't have a lot to play with. Just accept along the margins and you end up where, like in Meckelberg County, for example, you've got such a large population you have to split it up because all of

the districts have to be of an equal or roughly population size. So once you start doing this, I mean, yes, you're going to end up with You're going to end up with some areas that kind of look a little weird, but there are but there are usually reasons for it. And yes,

they're going to draw themselves. The levers in power is going to draw themselves maps that are more advantageous to them, much like the Special Masters gave Jeff Jackson a seat down in meckliberg county, right, they gifted Democrats a couple of seats so it wouldn't be the bloodbath that everybody was expecting in twenty twenty two. That was the practical result, and what you ended up with was a map that had a seven to seven split. And when Democrats defend

this, they say it's a proportional map. That's their argument, But that's not law. There isn't any law that says we have to have proportional maps. And what's more, I find it kind of comical that everybody points out all the Supreme Court changed hands, Well, how did that happen? Those were state wide races and Republicans swept all of them. So what's the proportion

for that? When they win every single state wide race like that and they've taken over the judiciary because statewide people want Republicans there, So what's the proportionality there. We don't have a proportional system. We don't We don't have a parliamentary kind of a system with coalitions and that sort of thing. It's sort of like people like, we need to get rid of the electoral college and go to a popular vote. If you want to do that, well then

you have to change the laws. You have to do legislation, and that's hard. That takes a long time. You got to build up support and coalitions for that. And why do that that kind of hard work when you can just get a bunch of money from some you know, really rich leftists and sue su, sue until you're able to get a bunch of lawyers in black robes to rewrite the law for you. See, that's way easier, way easier. And it has the added benefit of keeping a lot of lawyers

that these leftist organizations employed the UH. And there's two things. One one pushback is it's selected officials choosing their voters and not the other way around. But it's not. And here's why. People are aware that every ten years we do the census and every ten years, I mean, this is how it's supposed to work. That whoever is in charge of redistricting, which is

the legislature, is going to go through the process. So if voters are aware of that, that is something that they can factor in when voting who is in the legislature. And the second thing is they talk about packing. You talked about one of the things that is that they strive for. One is to try to have proportionality in districts, right, you want to have roughly the same number of people, but also you want districts that have shared

interest. So when you see the old Alma Adams map or GK Butterfield map from back in the day, you have to ask yourself, what is a peanut farmer you know nearly on the coast have in common with a voter in downtown Durham. Arguably you want you would want a map or a district that represents all of that downtown Durham. But if you do that, you're said to be packing. But the reality is people who vote blue in North Carolina

more proportionally live in higher density population areas. So yes, you're going to have packing because that's where people pack themselves. And so folks who live within let's say the city of Durham have much more in common from an interest perspective than that peanut farmer from Bertie or you know, wherever county here in North Carolina. So yeah, yeah, that's the packing, but it's packing based on shared interest in where people choose to live well. And then on the

flip side is the cracking. Right, So you've got cracking and packing, and what it means is essentially it's Calvin Bull. It's I'll know it when I see it, and whatever argument I need to make in order to get you to draw a quote fair map. And when Democrats say fair maps,

they mean maps that give them more seats than Republicans. Because we went through a redistricting in Charlotte with Charlotte City Council a couple of years ago, and they gerrymandered all of those district races so they could have a They want a complete eleven to zero Charlotte City Council. They don't even want two of the seven districts to be held by Republicans, even though one of the areas is like the last Republican area of the City of Charlotte inside the city limits.

And so they say, well, you know, so, if you split up Democrat voters, that's cracking. If you put Democrats in a district together, then that's packing. And whatever argument they need at any given time, they will use cracking or packing. Yeah, And it's a model that's played out in a lot of municipalities Wake County where they went and they said, oh, we're going to have everybody vote rather than districts and the net result

is a completely flipped county Commissioner's board. But you know this is we could do a whole show on this, all right, Pete. I appreciate you sticking around, but people, oh yeah, you know, at least need done understand what they're striving for and understand that, yes, partisanship is going to be part of it. But we'll continue this next week. Appreciate it, sir. Have a good one, okay, you too. Have a great weekend, guys. Yep, yep. And that's Pete calender and this

is race agic here with your weather. What's going on today, sir? They make us happy for the weekend. Yes, I'm going to. I mean, most people are reasonable though, well, no, not much. Wait a second, let me rephrase that, you know, yeah, exactly. I would say most people would say, well, if I've got one rainy day and I've got two real nice days of the next three, I think most people would say, that's okay. And it may be one of

of the next nine days we have rain showers. And that's today. Westbound as you go west of Greensboro, Winston say, I'm starting to see this line of showers come and extends north in southwest Virginia and the Roanoke Valley right down through and getting into western Stokes now and through Yatkin County in points out of that, down your Statesville and rolling east, so pretty soon here Winston, Salem, Greensboro, and then eventually the triangle is this round of showers

goes through, there's another one back behind that, so a few showers, maybe a thundershower mixed in there. Shouldn't see too much in a way of heavy rain, but still new since a little breezy today, still should climb upper sixties, low seventies. A threat for a shower thunderstorm tonight, but I think most of it's wrapping up. If you do have Friday night football, I really don't think there'll be much rain left, and then the payoff

will be the weekend. Casey upper sixties, maybe seventy degrees, a little breezy at times, so the mornings when we're waking up to the forties to near fifty might be a little brisk, but it's gonna look good and we'll keep it beautiful through early next week. Pleasant highs in the sixties through Tuesday, lows a low to mid forties maybe a little cooler in some spots. So we get through today. As I said, if you're a reasonable person,

not a bad forecast. Okay, all right, Well for the couple reasonable people there you go and have a good weekend, sir, Okay, block Monday and good Joan Donagher Bloomberg News joins us. Next smart Talk all Day ninety four to five WPTI in the triad and one six one FM talk in the triangles. All right, good morning, a fifty three happy Friday. And Joan Donager Lumberg News joining us. Joan cap Off our week course.

What's going on? Well, you know, if you have money, you don't mind spending it right An American Express can certainly back that up. It's profits and sales last quarter soared to records because it kept attracting new cardholders who were willing to pay an annual price for its premium products. Those fee based cards made up more than seventy percent of all new accounts added during the

quarter. Some encouraging news for Apple from AT and T. The telecom company CEO says AT and T saw the strongest iPhone orders last month in many years. It saw customers upgrading to the new iPhones at a higher rate than in the last several quarters. The iPhone made up about half of Apple's sales during the second quarter of the year. Elon Musk's X going the subscription route.

Musk says on the social media platform that used to be known as Twitter this morning that X will launch two new tiers of premium subscriptions, a lot like Netflix and other streamers. One is lower cost with all features but no reduction in ads, the other more expensive but ad free. Some things are starting to look a little better this Friday morning, though the auto strike for one, A top United Auto Workers negotiator says GM and the UAW are moving towards

a deal. He says, all the pieces are there. Both sides just have to glue them together. He says, though they are still divided on pay and pensions, but the union will meet with GM today to keep talking. And the economy is looking up too. Economists surveyed by Bloomberg think the output of goods and services grew three and a half percent over the past three months. That's the fastest in almost two years. So now they're pulling back

on their bets on recession in the next year. So now the cold water more proof the so called American dream home ownership is pulling out a reach for more people. The Redfinn real estate brokerage says home buyers needed to make one hundred and fourteen thousand dollars a year to afford a typical home in September, figuring on a seven point two percent mortgage rate with a twenty percent down payment on a median priced home. But casey, in twenty twelve, you needed

only thirty eight thousand dollars a year to buy the typical home. Yeah, that whole thing when you look at it compared like from a historical perspective. So some people trash on you know, kids these days don't get it. But like if you math it out, like how you yet it? Yeah, it's pretty absolutely absolutely just no way. Yeah, this is why I live under an overpass. It's much cheaper. Well there you go, and you know it's shield you from the rain and snow. Yeah. Well,

good time of the year too, nice weather. All right, thank you, Joan, appreciate it, and uh have a good weekend. Okay, thanks you too. All right, there you go, Joan Doniger, Bloomberg News. That's why Ross is finally putting a roof on his house. So I think I was talking about it earlier and people like, oh, he's replacing it now. I just just finally getting one. So that'll be good keeping all your stuff in. Yeah yeah yeah, so hey, look it

got Mark Watney into space. So I mean that's exactly how I felt. See yeah, see craziness. Oh man, what a show. Basically we were able to we were able to get half of the show just based on whether co Ed's are hot. So and you know what, that's a that's a good show. Plus people found out, uh you know Ross and I we do the radio, but also very hot. So uh now you know

in fact, Ross right now, you guys don't know. He walked around the studio just covered in cooking oil, pointing at stuff but doing that like where's our not outstretched, it's in an L shape. It's all just like Hogan's old promos back in the day. Yeah yeah, so I'm like, where's reports and he's like over there, I have the the intern dressed of like me and Gene. Oh yeah yeah you might not. That's not a real mustache. He has a hormone disorder. He can't even grow a mustache.

Oh it's fake because you know I don't interact with the interns. So interns man, all right, so uh yeah, yeah, that's that's a Friday show I can totally get with. And I remind you too. We got that video at Casey on the radio. What happens when it is dueling dueling groups of moon bat interests. Well, how about a bus of migrants getting stopped by the uh the block the road, get rid of oil people?

It plays out, The video is delicious, The audio is great because Lord knows, right, hold on, get my button bar here, because Lord knows it's theater. Kid overload with them like they never imagined. They never imagined that there's a possibility that people wouldn't abide by what they wanted. And I'm there's people on the ground, Well why are you on the ground

of the road man? And again I love that their screams are literally the ones that I would mockingly do if attempting to describe it with the situation to you. But it didn't have the audio. Growing up in Wyoming, were you taught to stay out the roads or do you not have roads? Well that's where the bears go, right, So we have roads kind of that's another story for another day, because we have gates that shut our roads,

and then we just find other places to drive. And I'm not saying I've driven across the field to get around one of those, but it may have happened. But check that video out at Case on the radio. Have a good weekend. We'll see you back here Monday.