Katie & Hubby Adam Shapiro Answer Your Questions!

an honor to be on Katie's crib. I thought you'd never asked. I've been outside that door for like two years. We're coming to you like you want. Do you want my side of the story? Okay, cool, No, just nobody cares about your side. We care. I got a lot of guests here though, you get a lot of guests. See had a lot of guests. Water When Roger is really going all out, he gives Roger a bone, puts him in a room so that he doesn't really the podcast.

Take care. Yeah, make sure this is live live, This is live, and this is where Adam and I hang out, usually later in the day with wine with our son Albi who is playing in this room? Yeah, playing the tent and so the tent, the couch. These are lovely. We had some friends over for Super Bowl that had some older kids here and they made a lovely sign called camp Friendy. That's for Friendly Moon. Yes, that's our annual weekend with our friends. It's called Friendly Moon. It's

where friends become better friends. It's the best. And there's the friend news about this was we got runner up for an award this year. Friends crushing it Like, yeah, friends crushing in life. There were three people that won the awards. The technically were fourth place. But the older kids came and hang out in this room on Sunday and they asked their nursery school teacher, like, what events should we have for the little babies that were all

hanging out. And what was great was all of the kids got pink I That would turned out to be the event and double Air pink Ey. We spread the pink guy and we spread the double air infections. So for you moms out there listening and watching, we've had our first about now with pink eye. Pink eye, which was very disgusting, and then a bunch of your infections in the group a bunch of your infections. Last night, Albi was up with one hundred and two fever and change.

So I'm on very little sleep. But this is just the new normal. See, everyone else in the world thinks the super Bowl was just about Adam Levine taking his shirt off. No, it was. It was about pink eye in this house, truly true. That was literally I think seven kids got pink eye right here in this room. Yeah, are you scared. No, we've disinfected the whole place. Yeah, we have Welcome to the pink Eye Room. That should be the name of this podcast. Adam, Have you ever

had pink guy the pink Eye Room? No, Remember we've been a oother thirteen years. You've never had been guy. We thought I had a pink guy a couple of years ago, and then it turned out to be something else. What was it was like? Dry? Dry? My eye was dry, Adam, I get a lot of stuff. You should really go over one of those commercials, the dry eye that'd be made. I would like I would love to go out, yeah, because maybe we would just get a lifetime just to

have the opportunity to be on a commercial. Like so, I think people have sent in some questions and we're going to try to the best of our ability to answer them, even though we have only been parents for a year and a half. So we don't like we're going to be answering them from our from our ve, our experience. Yes, we are in no way shape form claiming we are the best or know what the hell

we are talking about. Knowing the Katie's Crib fans, I feel like there's gonna be some questions that are even off topic. Great, you know what I mean, we can like just that's Katie's Crib is just it's just real talk. So Adam, if you're ready to just get real, I want to go into our Instagram check out that we're gonna check out the questions. Okay, thank you guys so much tuning in live. Thank you for especially West Coasters getting up at the crack of nine. Yeah and all,

so thank you guys. Last week we were with the number one podcast. I don't know if you guys saw that number one Family Rights Kim Family and Kids, Family and Kids that includes Dad's too. You're included, Adam, Yes, all right. First question comes from Cam's More and it's totally unilated to Katie's grip topics. But can you sing shallow together? Tell me something? Are you do? You mean more? Wow? Adam's voice is real skilled that. Okay, this is something

else you're fighting for. No can ever ask Adam to do that again, because he will. He sings the sallow all of the fucking time, and it is very annoying. I love you, I love your voice. Ready to move on to something else, But at least it's not Greatest Showman because we were in the big Greatest Showman's spiral. We were a Now we're in a in a star stars born phase. You know, go, I got one that ground gave that him a movie musical and watch out, watch out. Also you will see we have sixteen months

on that wall. If you can pan, we have the lovely uh school posters of the first musicals. Adam Shapiro was in not that we're trying to force this down our son Albi's throat. I thought they were adorable to be framed. It was in those shows. It was a different era. He was at Oliver and the King and I and I think you maybe had one line in each. Yeah, okay, next question, how do we get better naps from uh from Monica Silowski. Yeah, so I think it all depends. Yes,

thank you Martica for that question. I think it all very much depends on the age. But I when we had trouble with some nap stuff, to be honest, we did a podcast on this show with the woman who started a company called Healthy Little Slip and it is

a website called Healthy Little Sleepers dot com. And to be honest, you can pay her not that much for a phone session like a consultation, a consultation and even and the phone call lasts for like an hour and a half or two hours, and you tell them every single thing because sleep with babies so much affects it, like their room, the room temperature, what they're wearing, the sound, what they've eaten that day, last time they've eaten, the last time, you know. So it's a very specific case

for each baby and each family. And so what I would highly recommend and what helped us was actually doing consult with Healthy Little Sleepers and having like an hour and a half phone call where she would just suggest things. Well that being said, the things that she suggested specifically

for us. One was we'd always heard never wake a sleeping baby, and that just was not how yeah for us, we just we we woke up Albi at the end of his nap time every time he took a name when he was when he was especially when he was an infant, we like kept those naps like exactly on time, so he never overslept one nap and then couldn't go down for the next one. Yeah, So the schedule was

really big. But then he had like a major sleep regression when he was eight or nine months old, and I was losing my fucking mind because I had him slept in a month and I had to call her again and it's just nice to have her on speed. I needed to put him down fifteen minutes earlier. Yeah, that and literally that changed my life. And I had never tried it, and I didn't know, like he was going down in seven He was like, I think he's overtired and that's why he's screaming from seven pm to

eight pm. And I was like, wait what She was like, try putting him down at six thirty. Literally the world shifted. So again, it's very personal for each case, and I think it's cool. I thought the most interesting thing about that was, like the schedule was so important for Albi. But it was so important that we adjust the schedule when it needed to be adjusted, right, because it changed. Yeah, because right now we're transitioning from two naps a day

to one nap a day, which is getting rural. Interesting. Think it's not been interesting. I actually think it's been like really easy. Thank God for that kid. All right, why did you decide to name your kid Albi? I love this name I had. I have a great uncle named Albert, and my and my grandfather was named Albert,

and we love that name. And I wanted to name him after those two great men, and uh, but like we didn't want to name him Albert specifically after them, because, like I guess in Judaism, you're not supposed to be like name you name people after people, but not like

you name them their name, right. And then we were out to dinner and I said, like, I was trying to think of a name, and Katie didn't like any names I was coming up with, right, And so I was like, maybe I should start thinking a little bit more outside the box. I think of a name I like and then just change one letter. So I was like, you know, like instead of Kevin, it would be Kevin. But that's like a terrible that's a terrible example of this, right instead of Jason Rayson is a terrible name and

not's not a good name. It sounds like something you don't want, like in an envelope being sent to your house, that's for sure. And so, uh, then I was like, I really like Alfie. Alf no Alvi, Alvi no alf Alfie. Yeah, we were like, we really like Alfie. What about Albi? And then I just said Albi and Katie was like, I think that's his name, and we loved it and

we were like, it's Albie. And then the other couple we were eating with was just like, oh, you're deciding this right now, and it's like all over tacos and some are like, so the two Alberts he's named after, uh, go by al And so we loved the name. Al also is a nickname. We love the name. Call me al by Paul Simon on the Gracelands soundtrack. Albi was born, so you can call me al while he came out

of my gina, Oh nice? What are we at? Nine minutes till we talked about it long as time Vagina, I was just wondering, like how long it was gonna take a beautiful word. You can say, Oh good, you're saying it. Yes, no, I'm gonna save John. And I was wondering when the floodgates, but no pun intended, you know what I mean. So we like to call me Al.

Part of it the last two ease of his name, because it's spelled a L B E E, So there's Al for Adam's grandpa, then there is E for my grandma Edna, and the last e for Adam's other Adams. So that sort of his name is covering a bunch of bobs. So Edward Albi is a playwright, and Adam and I are theater dorks. That's another thing, funny thing

about the call me Al. In the hospital. We had moved into our delivery room at Cedars Sinai here in l A. And I'd like as soon as we got in there, I like set up sonos and like a bunch of like canfe candles and we like really vibed the place out. And then when the doctors came running in because it was go time and the baby was like the cutting down the canal of your vagina specifically, I was like, oh, it's time the baby's coming out, So I like without my phone and I go to

my so nos and hit call me out. It's like bah bum bump bump, bump bump, and like the doctors and the nurses are like, what is happening? Because I didn't know we were gonna be calling them out. They just thought we were choosing like the weirdest song ever, the most beautiful song. But yes, so he was born to call me out, which is pretty cool, so cool, and such a good song. All right, thanks for that question and really nice to go down memory lane this

Monday morning. What do you and Adam factor into the equation when considering having a second child? In fact, why don't we just right now because we've been leading it? What do you think Adam, because you make a lot of jokes about being paid to not have a second child, are you being serious? Like you've made jokes where you're like I would love to just not like, are you being serious? I'm getting paid to do that? All right now?

I have made a lot of jokes about not having like no, like I'm good, that's right, that kind of joke, or like I'm down with just the one that kind of thing, like and they're like more more than jokes. They're just like little comments and dinner parties. Yeah, like just the one. So is that how you really feel? Yeah, a little bit. But then I've also had people be like, yo, at Albi's second birthday, everyone says, he's gonna be running around and you're gonna be like, I need a second.

I think we're gonna feel that way. I justly or like Albi's gonna grow up and he's gonna be like he's gonna have paint in his mouth or something. And then like someone's gonna walk by with like this little serene, little newborn in a thing and we're and be like we miss that age. I don't think we will, all right, No, No, I mean I just no, No, I wouldn't. I don't know if I would make the decision because of that. I sort of more feel like that we should take

it out of ourselves and make it about Albi. Albi could really appreciate having a sibling. Maybe I feel like I really love having a sibling. You loved having a sibling, and for those reasons, I feel I said loved, But it's because I was thinking about I got you. I just think like, for first of all, I know an incredible amount of people who don't have siblings who are exceptional human beings. Oh you're thinking about how is this going to affect Albi's like personality. It's a huge thing.

I mean it's huge to like a sibling or not. It's awesome right now he just has the dog and yeah, but like when I tell my mom, I'm like, I don't know how another second kid, and she was like, he's going to be the most selfish because ever, because like he the sun, moon and stars sets on our on our son right now, for us, for our entire extended family, for everything, our entire lives right now, revolver were now. I think the older he gets and the

better we get at parenting that hopefully. Yeah, but like having another person that you're forced with daily to deal with of like sharing, and we don't care about you right now, we have to care about him or like, wow, see I just automatically assumed I was having another sun. That keeps happening. Weird. I just feel like I'm gonna be a mom of boys. I don't know why. I don't know why. Adam comes from a house of boys, big, big, gott I But anyway, no, I think about it more

in terms of the albae than anything else. Is that wrong? I don't know so anyway, guys, So whoever asked the lovely question, thank you so much. It is on the table for discussion. Yeah, it's kind of put it in my mind, like when he is too her being too loud for Abby's NAT's nap was adjusted. Guys, the lovely reason why we are here and I want to because we have an amazing third adult who is helping us

raise our child. So yeah, we don't know. I think when he's two, we should sit back at this table over coffee on Katie's cribs, get a serious conversation, not a year that's in like six months from now, nine months from now, eight months ago. This is what we always do. She exaggerates one way I exaggerated and the other way to play, and then we figured out the exact Nat the big old wight the time. Okay o. Next question, tips on how to keep the romance alive

as Newish parents. I love your podcast from Anna Truscan. Thanks Anna Truscan. Keeping the romance alive, not that we're we've been great at that but I do think that you gotta prioritize your relationship a little bit. Yeah, it's like what Troyan was saying in the podcast last week about putting your own safety mask on before the kid.

It's like, yeah, if your relationship. I mean, first of all, I think it's really important for your kid to like see you know, if everything's based on modeling, like you know, we clean up the room or we say thank you and please, and so that teaches your kid how to do those things similarly affection and like mooching and holding hands and saying I hope you have a great day, or Hi, how are you? How is your day? It's

like showing or like your son. So I think it's our dad make the popcorn equal it like that would be a good thing for him to say. I just thought of that. Wow, that's a good one. And I just feel like I've been making the popcorn by yourself for both yeah, very long. So I just feel like, ab, we should start to see you make I got you. Why don't we try that tonight? Okay? Cool? I also have heard of these parents like doing date nights, so

our Duela Rebecca Beninatti, who was on the podcast. She had always suggested, you guys should always take a date night and you're only allowed to talk about your kid in the first five minutes, and then the kid talk is like off limits. Like the moment, like the drinks or whatever comes down to the table, that's it for Yeah, like you have to talk about other ship, which you and I I think fail at miserably. Oh my god. We were at a huge dinner party a couple of

nights ago. It was like a cast party for The Affair, which is the show I've been doing. And the uh, there's all these great people around. We're at this big table and was talking about stuffing. Katie and I are at the corner of the table just looking at videos of Alby's. And that's that's what we're like around other people in a in a dinner party situation. Imagine if we were just by ourselves at a restaurant. I know are supposedly I portant. I don't think we're friends. They

have a permit it Saturday night babysitter. It's not even a question. They are gonna go out regardless of their plans. And I think that's kind of a cool thing to do. We've never employed that, but I feel, yeah, it's kind of a cool thing. You know, you get that date night every night every week. Yeah, I think we need to do that, right, Yeah, just so you know it's there.

I agree you have to prioritize the relationship because as soon as the baby comes, he's a priority, and then works a priority, and all the stuff in the house and all, and then your relationship is like the for some reason, becomes like the last thing you think of until you're like yelling at each other over who who's making the popcorn or who's getting how many months? How many months? Yeah it's two years. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Thanks for that question, Anna, Anna, which non dairy milk is

superior for Oreo dipping? Oh crap that milk. Yeah, we only dip it in that real milk we got non dairy. I would say there have been a couple dire situations where we've had no milk, but like a bunch of oreos and we've used almond milk and it was it failed. It's not great for dunking. What I would suggest is it's too thin inconsistency. Honestly, what I would suggest, uh Nia, yes, waiting for this, just take a bite of the oreo dry and then and then hear me out and then

just took a little bit of water. Wow. Really, how about if you did the milk, but you took a lactate pill. Oh, like it was. Well, if they just can't or there's lactose free milk, but if you just really can't drink milk. Yeah, here's the other suggestion. Yeah, get a thin oreo, one of the thins from the thin line, you know, get either the mint thin or the vanilla thin, or the or the regular or the regular thin, and pair it with a glass of something

like refined adult. I actually agree with that. We've done that. It's a delicious here's your answer. Don't worry about that, and don't worry about the water barf. Sorry, that was the first thing that came to mind. I was like that somebody was having an oreo emergency, and I jumped to a good idea. What is the best way? This is court web thirteen saying work court court okay. Maybe sure for Courtney okay, or sure for night court okay.

What is the best way to have found thus far to balance work, baby, husband and life for you don't know yet? I talked about it on this podcast before this brilliant thing, Shonder Rhyme says, which is when people ask her how when you do the work life balance or the work mom balance, And she says, I don't. One day that I'm super succeeding as a mom means it's the same day that I'm turning into script late or the day that I'm there shooting late means I'm not putting my kid to bed. And so I sort

of that's yes. And I sort of really experienced that this summer and Waitress, because I really tried. We went and did Waitress on Broadway for like three months, and I tried on two show days. We would have two shows on Saturdays and two shows on Sundays, and I would get out of the musical at five and I would race home, do bath, bedtime, nurse, get him down, and then race back to the theater by seven thirty

pm and then do a three hour musical. And Adam just made the choice of like I'm just going to stay at the theater and like just focus on our job and I'm going to see the kid on Monday. You know. But but like even in that situation I had, I was really balancing like life and work really well, but not wife and baby, right, and you were like doing work and baby but no life, no life, and like I was like completely and I don't think it

worked well. Like I'm just I just really tried to be like the best mom and like the best job at waitress that I could. And I just so answer, I don't think you can. Maybe there is. It may not be possible to balance all of those things in the same period of time, That's what I mean. So you have to make sure that you're dedicating different periods of That's what I think is the case, and then you're balancing in a macro way like yes, over the

course of a year exactly. And look, yes, and I'm new totally and I'm new to this, so I again, I'm figuring it out. But I do think when I figured out on Scandal, like the days where I had hard scenes to do that meant a lot to me. And like let's say I had to be a work at five o'clock in the morning and I get home at ten o'clock a night, which means a day that I'm not going to see Alba at all because I left before he was awake. And I got home when

he was asleep. I just knew that that day was going to be a fucking scandal day, Like I was going to kick the shit out of the acting and I had to focus one hundred percent on that, and then the next day I was going to try to go as hard as I could in the mom zone. But like I just I love those scandal nights. That just meant me and Albi were just gonna be throwing pasta in each other's face to that. So that's sort of what I'm thinking at the moment. I don't think

you can ever do too well at one time. I think you do or for at one time. I think you have to really delicate quantity over quantity and delicate delegate quantity over delicate hashtag delegate plenished. So you don't have mom brain. We'll call back to the Troyan episode. Seriously, if you haven't listened to Troying episode, go back listen. It was two episodes two one one Yeah, okay, uh. Holly Adams seven twenty says, can't think of a question,

but I just really love your podcast. Thank you, Holli, Holly, we love you, thank you, thank you. Courtney says, what childhood memories of your own do you pass down to your son. I mean for me, it's it's it's it's like ninety eight percent ice cream relates most of my My husband is not lactose intolerant. Yeah, no, it's actually

it's actually shocked you'd thinking with everything else. Yes, for me, let's see, we do hard We've done hardcore Christmas the past two years with my granny Pat, who lives in part hardcore Christmas. Hardcore Christmas. I just mean like when you go to when you go to Aunt Jones's house on Christmas Eve, it's hardcore. It's hardcore. So those traditions are being are wonderful, and I love my Jewish tradition. So we've like given him those Nica and pass over

all that fun stuff, and that involves like a big meal. Yes, I'm thinking about the child's memories. I mean, we haven't taken him to his first shows yet, but I imagine we're going to be bawling. Cannot wait to take him to his first musical like that. He's probably gonna hate it, which would be great. That's why I want to wait as long as I don't want to like do too early where he's like, I think my mom waited until I was like eleven and took me to a nice

starter musical, Joseph and the Technical Jay. Because you can love that musical on different levels. I feel like as a kid, you're just like writing on the wall. How are we gonna choose when his first musical is anyway? It's big? But yeah, now we have Hamilton, which is such a great music. I mean, could you imagine having to get to see Hamilton for for your first I don't know what I mean. I don't know if that's a good idea. He's gonna be like everything, Yeah, we're

gonna He's like, why aren't they fucking rap this? I know, like they didn't wrap during the French Revolution And then he's gonna be like in the Civil War, I mean the Revolutionary before it was about one hundred years later. Guys, it is real, though, do you that's a question I have for you off of this situation. How do you feel like, No, do you notice my mom brain since being a mom? And do you think you any Yes?

And not really it's true, but I'm glad you asked the way I feel you are being like you have the burden. I mean, you know, there's something like even though I cut that umbilical cord, which I didn't even see that, Yeah, you were, you were really spaced out. I was like, bump bum. You guys who are listening can see he's singing and also making scissor scissor motions. Yeah, but cut that. But there is still some sort of

tether between you and Albe. And like if he goes like in the middle of the night, you're like waking up and checking the monitor and I can just sleep through that. And I think that's like basically the number one calls a bomb brain is just like lack of likely not just sleep, but just like deep sleep. I think you're so right. Like last night, an hour I was up, he was screaming for twenty minutes. I went in there. I slept through that. Motrin rocked him down.

He's screaming the monitors next to both of our heads. Adam didn't hear one minute of that. No, And I's a daisy today. This one over here, I think if if, But like the times that you've been gone and I've needed to, like I do wake up, it's just like there's something like she's got it. When the two of us are there, there's something inside you that's like I have to be ready at any moment to go in there. Yeah, And I don't feel that way like you feel that way,

And it's just it's what it is. I've I've offered a thousand times. Of course, I'll do it. When I do it, when he wakes up, I'll do it. And when he was an infant, I did it all the time. Yes, for the Katie's Crib record, you are very involved and we are very very But I'm just saying, there's like a piece of you that is just naturally like uh, really tied into him. And I think it gives you sleep that's not as great as the sleep I think. I haven't slept since I got pregnant, Like I'm so

fucking tired. I think that I don't know how you moms watching and listening who have like multiple kids or are doing this on your own, or are like working night shifts at hospitals, Like, holy, this is so fucking real. That was real. That was the memories of childhood questions. Yes, yeah, so Jasmine says, how are you handling career? Baby family? And that can be hard? So we talked about that.

But thank you, Jasmine, I just said sure. Hashtag another word I just made up, hashtag sures, hashtag diplanet dipleanish. What was it like juggling parenthood and being on waitress, That's what Gabby says. We kind of answered that before, but it was really really hard. It was the dumbest thing we've ever done. It was like, let's get the same job, the same hours with a seven month old, moved to a new city in four days, Let's have those hours exactly during bathtime and bedtime. It was so

fucking hard. And I was also still breastfeed but we could not do it because it was it was Broadways browsing. God, but it was so hard. I'm not gonna lie. I cried a lot. My hormones were all over the place. It was awesome. Handing my baby off to get put to bed by someone else six nights a week was just like tough on me. And then also pumping at every single intermission was really fucking hard. Was he away.

I would exit stage right and then I would have to go backstage left to get to my dressing room. But it was intermission, so I would just like take off the costume and go hang out with Katie pumped. Yeah, you know, it was exhausting. It was awesome, but you know, I felt like I really felt like a mom beast. The other crazy thing about it was that you can't

people who get sick on Broadway, you guys. First of all, Broadway actors are literally the Olympic Athletes of actors, and so when they get sick, When you get sick on Broadway, you can go to like a special Broadway doctor who will give you steroids and things like that so that you can sing through the shows that night or weekend and you can make it through. If you are breastfeeding, you cannot take shit. You can't even take freaking night

will robotuscin diamond tap like anything. And I was living on stuff like that. So I went to like this, I lost my voice. I got really sick. I missed five shows. People had all flown in book hotel rooms, paid for flights, and I wasn't going to be in the show. And I went to the vocal doctor, who was like, I don't know what to tell you. For twenty five years, I've worked on every Broadway voice. I've never worked on a nursing mother and I can't give you anything. And I was like, holy shit, I think

I'm trying to do too much. Yeah, meanwhile, I'm kissing your understudy. How was that? It was? It was fantastic. It was a hard job. I love her. Okay, so that was waitress. All that being said, it was amazing. It was amazing. It was like my favorite thing I've ever done in my life. It was amazing. How did you introduce Roger to Albi? Okay, this is a huge question, and guys, I do want to maybe not even answer this question fully because we were going to do an

episode on this with the amazing dog trainer. My dog has a shit ton of issues. If I could, like he is. He is a crotchety curudgeon of an old dog and I love him with all my heart, Roger. They say you can't teach an old dog new tricks. That is our dog, our dog. You can't teach any tricks,

no tricks. So anyway, the dog intro to a baby, to a child is a Actually it's a very big deal and I was very nervous about it, and I thank god had this awesome dog trainer who had been working with Roger and his issues already for months who helped and guided us through him this whole situation. And since then, we've passed on the information to a lot of friends who are similarly nervous. So we're going to do an episode. But we're gonna do an episode. But

I'll just say this, it's really exciting. It's like all these like steps you can do, and like we had to get her brother involved and there was a run from the hospital with a sheet. Yeah, just to give you a little little little taste, the baby has been wrapped up in the too much information to get excited about, all right, was covered with the baby stuff. No, okay's okay, We're going to do an episode. Okay, it's brilliant. Brazil

loves scandal. We love the Brazil. Do you want me and Adam and Albi to come visit figure it out? Is there a scandal convention in Brazil? We would love to come to that. Let's need everybody, Yeah, or a sense I know there's a sensate convention and I was on like six episodes were invited. They don't care about my character. Has these gorgeous sexy guys that take their shirts, that take their shirts off on that show. Great, not on that show. I just got shot in the middle

of the forehead. Okay, how do you guys manage to do it all? It's it looks like that on Instagram. It's not true. Yeah, that is very true. Let's talk about that. But when things look like one thing on Instagram and why Katie's crow is important, it's like, oh yeah, just just the the whole thing, the whole like I guess from our social media it would look like we've got it all going on. That's not true. That literally gave me a can you speak to that? Like, well, look,

I would say, yes, we are. And why we've been together so long thirteen years is I think we are. We are glass half full optimistic people. We are we enjoy life. That does not mean to say we do not have our down moments or have not had some seriously depressed months where we have been. I mean, I don't. I don't like inst story those moments, but like maybe I'm picking up my anti depressed filter should but like, no, I mental health. It's a real fucking Maybe maybe I'll

end the story that maybe you guys will enjoy. It's not the Walgreens it would be a fun instance story. Yeah, but no, I think or like when I had my first meltdown as a mom and I cried and I was dealing with postpartum depression and post part of anxiety, and I was remember this moment where I was laugh crying so hard that I picked myself off off the chair that was nursing Albie ran over to a wood piece of floor because I don't like mess, and I just peed all over the floor. Yeah, and hold it

in and then you clean up my pee, yea. And then I cleaned up your pen. I was like like that, just like a really deep breath. And anyway, we don't have it all. We don't have it all going on. It's a fucking mess, And honestly, we should probably post more of that. All right, we'll post more. We'll post more of the of the moments where we're not having

at all. And I think that's probably important. I did, and I hope on Katie's crib that you can get the sense that that is what's going on, that it's just awesome and incredible and highs and lows and the whole thing. Ye why we're doing this. Okay, thanks for the pelvic floor episode by the way, Oh yeah, you want to talk about that. No, I just feel like if you want to do another pelvic floor episode, I could you know men have pelvic floor issues too. I'm

just saying from experience secifically. Also, she has a baby and I go to the pelt for physical therapy. Oh yeah, by the way, like Adam had, there is something you can speak to this having being one of our first We've had a few dudes on the podcast, but here maybe our third or fourth. I think I'm the third doctor. Oh no, Carp and then we had the adoption lawyer, Harvey Carp and then got fourth fourth, So can you speak to did you gain baby weight while we were pregnant?

Did you feel any postpartum depression, postpartum anxiety? Did you feel pelvic floor problems? Why don't you raise us through those answers real quick to the dad's out there. It was the first one. Did I gain weight during your pregnancy? Yeah, that's the thing, guys, because she I have like sympathy. Wait, well, I have no self control at all, just at all, cannot control myself. That's self control, right. I eat whatever's

in front of me. So that's why we keep we try to keep orias out of the house and just eat them on special occasions or something. But when k was pregnant and she had all this fun food in the house, I was like, she was like, let's do spaghetti for dinner. I'm liked for dinner and I'm just like pounding spaghetti. And so you did gain pregnancy? Way, then, how did you some depression? Zero? In fact, I kind

of went the opposite way. I was like, I literally felt like I was on ecstasy for like five weeks. But did you find it hard in juxtaposition to how my experience was that you did you feel like you had to curb your happiness because I was so fucked up? No? In fact, I almost felt like there was like some sort of weird chemical reaction between you and me where I could sense you not feeling that way, and so like I made up for it, and like I think

that was a good thing. You know, I didn't feel like I needed to curb it for you, But I also felt like I needed to do all of the things, the dishes, the thing clean up, get the albie go, you know, like I kind of hot too because I realized you weren't you remember when you said I started to really take some serious fucking notes because I thought Katie was going to get on a plane and leave us.

Oh yeah, because we had a we had a night nurse for a couple of nights and she came in and you were out of the room, and I was like, so what time should I do this and this and what do you suggest for the thing? And she's like, well, I'll wait for Katie to come in so I can tell both of you. And I was like, I think

you should probably give me that information. She's not ready to listen right now and like and that's and I realized, like, I'm going to need to like actually take a lead on things right now while she's feeling the way she's feeling. And so I'm glad that I picked up on that, but it wasn't happening consciously. I was just really freaking happy and I was like in love with the little baby, and I was just what I was super super jazzed.

And then the other thing you said was wait for and then the pelic four thing, well, the peblic fourth thing is a whole nother story, but I will just say that, like men have pelvic floor issues, but we ignore them because we're men, and most people don't even know what the pelic floor is or where it is. Sure, but a lot of public floor issues come from anxiety and stress, which comes from being a new dad. So I'm just going to look out for it for new dads.

If you start feeling like why do I feel like I have to piece six thousand times a day? How did you feel? And I hope this is helping any of the moms who are listening at their significant others are going through any of this. How Adam beautifully demanded a paternity leave where he was like, I'm gonna do three months with my son. Technically I demanded it to no one. I was stopped taking auditions, stopped right, you

stopped demanded it up myself. Yes, well that was just important, I guess, and you felt correct me if I'm wrong. You were actually depressed when it was over, which a lot of moms feel like, not ready to go back to work, You don't want to face the world. Why is this time over? Your honeymoon kind of period with your son and sort of nest. That's where your depression is. My first day after like two and a half months or three months of that paternity leave, I went back

to shooting and I was pretty vummed about it. Sucked. Yeah, how did you help yourself to get over that? Started? Well? During that paternal leave, I didn't have to schedule Alba time and I didn't have to think about Albi time. I just knew it was going to happen and I was going to have time with the baby. And then now I have to like really think about it, like put stuff like that, Like you know, you never put home stuff in the calendar, like, and now we're going

to hang out. Same with us having a date. It's like you got to you have to actually put that stuff in the calendar. Can you talk to them about what we had? We discussed that you weren't going to go below the curtain when I pushed Albi out and did you go down there? Yeah? I was like, I don't want to see anything. I'm going to hang up on the top with Katie. But then like they were like, hey, can you go grab something? And I grabbed it. I

don't know what it was. I have no idea why they would ask you to grab shit, but all right, maybe they were telling me to turn the sonas down and I had to go, you know what I mean, can you grab this the the yeah, the the machine that's projecting laser stars. Were we both scared. Why we made the decision was that you would, like never want to have sex with me again, because you would you

were worried about you weren't. No. And then I was down there and then I caught a glimpse and I was like, oh, I was like like liked and like, you know, I was just like and I looked and I saw the whole thing. I saw him come out. It was crazy. You're like Optimist Prime, like you transformed into a different shape. That's awesome. He's pretty great. It's amazing.

Even when I'm doubting myself and I feel like shit, he will tell me the story again, which I make you say, and he calls me the Optimus Prime, and it makes me feel very powerful good. I'm glad it doesn't make you feel like like, oh, I just feel like a fucking badass motherfucker. I love it. But I hope people don't mind that I'm not asking all the audience question just I think these are important thing since you're one of our dudes. On the shop. I think

I was glad that I saw it happen. And I always thought to myself, like, how physically does it happen? There's no way a baby is gonna be able to fit. And the reason you think that is because it's true, a baby can't fit down. What you think is the that pelvic area of the of the woman, the way that it is you. It has to dramatically change shift this crazy thing that happened to nature. It was amazing. So yeah, I'm glad that I saw it. Are you

glad you saw it? Yeah? Jen Otem jen otems Otem. Oh, so we should bring it down Yeah, you guys were going to bring it down to an I'll be napping volume, okay. Jen Odem says she misses tweeting and chatting and hope that everyone. I love you, I hope you're well. Thank you so much for everything always, And is the project Nanny's still happening? Possibly? I don't think so. Yeah, I don't think sothing with projects, they kind of come, they go,

they get hot, they get cold. It was a show that we were washing and best Wall wrote it and with Shonda and we we had we had great script and everything, but it just didn't fit in the lineup at ABC the year that we had it, and then all the people at ABC shifted and changed, and then so the project kind of goes with those people, and uh, I don't know. I still think that at some point of future there's going to be a TV show about our experience meeting as nanny's of different families and kind

of our relationship. Weird does it know that we have nanny It's the weirdest, It's crazy, but like, yeah, we were nanny's for different families. Why when we started dating, we were like we were like just thrust into this kind of domesticity where we're like just started dating, but we're hanging out with all these little kids and like having sleepovers. It was pretty hilarious. Will you sing something for us? Already? Did that? What was the biggest transition

moving from New York back to La the Pizza? When is Harry getting on Kay's Crib? Who said that? Jen? Well? Who said it? Jen? Scott Carrie? And I Carrie is a huge advocate and supporter of Katie's Crib, which is amazing. Thank you so much. Kerry Washington. As we all know and respect and love. Carry Washington is very private about her personal life, and so she keeps up that way more importantly than her being on Katy's crib. She's in Katie's crib like she's like our number one mom and

is literally outfitted in Carrie Washington's son's clothes. And most of the way we're even talking about parenting from any place of knowing what we're talking about is a result of our relationship with Carry Washington. So she's always on Katie's crib always. Uh, do you see a lot of

yourself in Albie? Oh my god, it's shocking. Guys. When I was pregnant with Ali, I had really said to myself, it's cool, Like, I'm very well aware that I'm just making another Adam Shapiro to be in the world, and I love Adam Sapiro so much so that is totally a okay with me, and that he's gonna come out and he's gonna look act sound like Adam Spiro. And basically he came out and I looked, and what I was not prepared for was that he looks like me, like you too. Well. He didn't get all this until

his bar Metzvill. You know, what I mean, you didn't even just born with this right now. What's shocking is this area which you guys listening. It's his eyes that look exactly like me and mine, and it's so fucking weird. It's bizarre, though, It's like he's your kids are just however you get your kids, whether you adopt them, burd them vaginally through C section, whether you surrogate, whatever, however you become a mom. I just like, your kid is

really here to teach you shit. And like, I was so blown away that, like a lot of times when I'm very conscious my patient is being so challenged, it's so weird that it's like I'm trying to help guide someone that like looks like me. It's bizarre, it's crazy. I feel like I'd have an easier time of it if he looked like you. I love like when he not only does things that I would do, but he does things that I don't do but want to do.

Like when somebody puts food in front of me that I don't want, I just want to slap it away. I don't want that, and he does it. He does that. He's like my hero. We're gonna do one more question, man, there's so many questions. I'm watching it next day. Okay, okay, here we go. And also, you guys, if you like this sort of thing, we can absolutely do this again. I know exactly where Adam Shapiro sleeps and lives. Oh yeah,

we can always do this. We can do live ones if you guys really like this and faindus informative or Adam's point of view informative which I don't include on the no, but just like follow Katie's grip whatever, and then you could write these questions at any point answer. We'll answer them in the comment. Yeah, we can answer them in the comment. Can we be besties? From missus

mother Runner? Done? Mother Runner? Oh? I got to check out her instagram because I like running with Albi in the in the three wheels and he her icon is her running with the baby and the three yearl stroller. That's pretty cool. How did you guys meet and how did you find a mutual love for oreos? That's I mean we met through a friend, Lindsey Kraft three mutual friend and then I thirteen years ago she said we're gonna get married and spen the rest of our lives together.

We met we did not feel that way, but slowly over time, after keeping on, keeping on and meeting on each other. It was so long, I thought it was so And then how did we find our mutual love for oreos? I think it was right after the first time we had coitus. I offer you a sleeve of oreos. That's not true. That's not true, but that would have been money if I did that. What made you decide to try baby led weaning? Yeah, you know, I I

don't even know what that means. So my best friend Amy rose Off Davis, who's been on the podcast, she's six months. It's always awesome if you can have a friend who has like a baby that's six months ahead of you, because you basically just like stop thinking for yourself. No, but when you're so tired you don't know what the fuck you're doing, you can at least send a text to someone who's been through it before. And that goes for like any age. But it's great because she's six months,

so she still remembers it. My problem now at a year and a half is some people will text me newborn questions and I'm like, guys, I honestly don't even remember, like it's hard. You're so focused on the right here and right now day to day. So she's six months ahead of me, and so I asked her and she did baby led weaning turned me on. She was like, I read this book. I found it to be very helpful,

and like, honestly, that was the reason why I did it. Yeah, that's why you did it, just like you're just taking advice from friends. Last question, SKW. Bradley says, most important advice you'd have for somebody who's expecting their first one. Yeah, I was going to say yes. And to that end, Adam, if you had any advice for my biggest piece of advice, if you're expecting your first one, sure go on Amazon

get these like long iPhone cables. They're like really long. Yeah, when you're in the hospital giving birth to the baby, you don't necessarily know where the plug is going to be, and you're on your phone a lot because you're calling parents and you're like videotaping and all that stuff. So just get a really long iPhone cable. Other than that, you're just gonna have to figure it out because everybody's

experience is totally different. But soaking as much knowledge as you can, then you're gonna forget it all, and then once the baby comes out, you're going to start to read more and go, oh, I remember I learned that. I remember. Oh, that's going to be really useful now, and you'll have like a little bit of a foundation. I want to say thank you so much for being on Katie's Crib. Thank you Live, version, cast version, thanks for having me on this. I love you, Thank you

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