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hello Kaye how are you good how are you doing I'm good I've got great news so as of yesterday I finally finished going through all the podcast episodes of The Bible project so I'm F all of them so I burned through their whole catalog and it was perfect timing cuz they just finished Sermon on the Mount so they're starting up a new series I'm like perfect I'm going to join it live you are a bench podcaster I this is podcast jumper oh you got a question well just to lead right into that could you tell our podcast listeners um how many podcasts are you sub subscribed to oh no uh I think I cleaned it up a little bit since the last time you asked me for context I now have four podcasts that I'm subscribed
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um I have a total of 94 podcast that I'm subscribed to so we're two different types of podcasters yeah in my defense some of them are no longer running but I have the idea of going back been listening through all of their old episodes and I just like you were saying you binge through full podcasts and I'm a podcast jumper like I I need like a little bit of this and a little bit of that and so I just jump to podcast to podcast to just hear what sounds interesting that day I guess there's no right or wrong way but U let us know what type of podcast person you are obviously the correct way um is keeping it small all right uh so this is the castaline Ministries podcast where we are going to go through the Book of Mark together if you missed last week we kind of frame the whole series and Kaylee is joining me for this series but for each new Bible study series that I do I'd love to get different people on um so that way we kind of change up the feel for the show and um so if you're that's something you'd be interested in reach out and um I might have a form or something like that but I'd love to get other people involved in future series um but this one will carry us for another seven or eight weeks and then I think we could probably do a question and answer video or podcast episode um so we'll probably have a a little Link in the description where if you have questions as we go throughout post those and at the end we'll do a do a fun Q&A so jar will'll do the answer I will I kind of like how Bible project does theirs they say it's a q&r question response they not guaranteeing an answer it's just well here's our thought but can't steal their ideas for everything all right um so before we actually dig into the Book of Mark I guess my first question to you is how did you find this study guide useful and what did your studying look like this week yeah I really liked uh how in the study guide it had all of the Old Testament references to go back to I thought that's something that you don't see very often in a lot of studies of um going back to the Old Testament on things that the audience would know off the top of your head and something that we're just not always as familiar with talking the original audience would have picked up on is that what you mean yeah the original audience yeah um so I I really enjoyed that and um yeah so mine looked this week I read mark one read all the associated uh Bible passages uh that you had from that and took all my notes and questions and then did Mark 2 with all the associated passages for that and uh did kind of the same thing for that did you uh with your questions that you had did you do researching or do you just have them written down I have them written down ready to ask you oh okay uh it's always so I'll share how mine kind of went and I've you know I gone through this series once before just to make sure everything made sense uh but this time around like you I kind of read I just read through Mark 1 and two first just to kind of like here's what's going on and then as I went through a second time writing down those questions going back to those passages when they relate to where they connect so that way I have a bunch of questions and I write down my notes and then the rest of the week I like to go and research all my questions and then that becomes a whole study of itself and you end up you know I ran into some guy who did some sermons uh got questions and some of them didn't turn into anything but it was kind of fun just to I ended up on some really deep hermeneutics websites I was like well that was fun but turns out that was a really good question so that's what I always encourage people to do but you have the benefit of we're on a podcast so you'll get some of your questions answered so um yeah um I guess to start off before we dive into mark one did you have any applications from your
reading for those listening application is on the Bible study form it's not highlighted as like the most important thing it's down at the bottom but sometimes as we reading the Bible ideas come to us like oh yeah I need to apply that to my life yeah I mean I almost felt like I needed you know an application like each story just had kind of like a different element that they're highlighting and it's like almost is there an application for each one of these um some of the ones that stood out to me are um was the passage ver starting verse 23 to the end of the chapter about Sabbath because you know I feel like that's a big question in Christian circles today is do we Sabbath do we not Sabbath and so how do you Sabbath how do you Sabbath right so that was a big one that kind of stuck out to me um just from reading that um and the other big one that stood out to me um was also chapter 2 um the section 13 through 17 when Jesus was hanging out with tax collectors and Sinners and some of the scribes of and Pharisees were kind of questioning him on that and um that just that passage those who are well have no need of position but those who are sick I came not to call the righteous but the Sinners I felt like that was just um a little little bit convicting on how often I just kind of want to hang out with people that kind of are within my own beliefs and uh not always reaching out to people who may be like the least of these or kind of on the the margins and how do I do that well yeah as you know as part of my not this that I'm doing but my real daytime job which is working in a school district I actually get a drive around all the schools in the city and so I'm driving through some of the night not as nice parts of the city seeing a lot of homeless and people with clear issues and drug issues and and you look at kind of the Brokenness of the people and situations and you're like you know if Jesus came back he wouldn't be hanging out with me and my friends at church he'd be down here ministering to the people that need him so you know I've grown up in church my whole life and it's I've never seen like that was a clear Miracle wow but at the same time it's like I've been protected I've grown in an isolation or like a bubble of good values and stuff like that like I didn't need Miracles like some people need Miracles so it's you know God's watching over me in other ways that I don't need these Miracles that's kind of the thoughts that come in my head in that same passage of but also a calling for well how do I minister to the people in
need the the big application that stood out to me was you know and we'll hear this multiple times throughout Mark but Jesus goes off and he prays it's like um if Jesus made time for a prayer time maybe I need to make prayer time important um I think you're probably a little bit better at that you're always asking for prayer Crest but I've always struggled with just sit down tune everything out and just have prayer time so it makes you feel better I'm not just sitting down I've made it a prayer walk prayer walk the time I could strap my child into a stroller and he'll sit down for a little while and I can have some of that time while I'm walking so maybe that's my problem I need to do it while parenting yeah all right so those were just kind of my cursory um before we dive into the actual content questions we'd love to hear from you guys what you guys kind of thought about this Bible study um the format and all that sort of stuff but why don't we kind of jump into mark one and whatever topics or thoughts that are there um we'll start with what you kind of want to talk about and I've got a few thoughts as well and I mean I definitely think we need to talk about those first three verses
yeah um I was kind of did what you did last week read the intro for Mark in our Bible and one of the things that my Bible highlighted was this theme of discipleship which I really liked and I'm excited to see how that kind of not just discipleship like the disciples but discipleship as in having you know an intimate relationship back and forth with the Lord and learning from him doing what he says kind of thing and he said that was a big theme throughout Mark so I'm excited to see how that kind of comes out as we continue studying so that's something that's going to be on my mind uh for sure but yeah the first three
verses did you catch so for those first three where he quotes the prophets uh I had you go back and read from Isaiah Malachi did you catch that there's actually a third reference in
there I didn't I was mostly hung up on the fact that he quotes it as coming from Isaiah the prophet but then quotes Malachi I'm like man Malachi didn't even get a name shout out there so this is exactly why I love to write these studies because it points those out and you go now hold up because imagine you're just normal Christian living your life and then someone comes up to you and go hey why do you believe this book look Mark doesn't even know who he's talking about You' be like oh gosh you're uh I don't know uh but so in this study if you just like Kaylee and many others saw that you wrote down your question and then you did some research you find out okay actually we have a lot of recorded evidence both in the Bible and outside the Bible that this is a common practice that when you are referencing in this case he's like quoting um they would normally quote multiple people but you only give credit to the person either the most known profit or the profit that what they're saying ties most directly to the point that you're trying to make so it's a very common practice to include multiple people but only give credit to one and so when you actually do a historical dive oh no Mark's not losing his mind that's a Writing Practice of the time and that just actually adds to the historicity of this as being authentic because uh critics would say oh Mark was written much later and everything's made up it's like when you look at how he's writing it's written as a Jewish person of the first century and that's the type of evidence so it starts off as a Ah that's the problem you dig into it it's not a problem anymore yeah and I've listened to some people that framed it in this way because they're like that doesn't make sense we have certain rules that we're used to in writing that they wouldn't necessarily have followed back in that day and so something that to us like oh this seems like a contradiction or this seems like they're you know that doesn't seem like they're telling the truth here they they are coming from different rules than that what we're used to today yeah so that was a helpful frame of reference like you know they it's it's a different uh set of rules for writing back then than that we have today I'd say the one rule that'll pop up from time to time is quotations they didn't have quotations they didn't have symbols for this is a quote and in our day you see a quote you're thinking this is the words that were said whereas and this is where you can see people say there's contradictions between Mark and Luke and Matthew is they'll give somebody a quote and they're different and so people will say well which one was it well nobody knew exactly what he said but they knew the idea of what he said and so they're not actually putting quotes and so you you got to adopt that mindset of they had different rules and so we're going to approach it and learn all those rules so that we can better understand the text and what's cool about the way that he's referencing multiple prophets um is he gets to do theology without having to write commentary on theology so what do you think he's saying when he references Isaiah and
Malachi uh I think he's bringing back that Jesus is the Messiah that the old prophets have been testifying to obviously these are uh talking about John the Baptist but again he Was preparing the way for the Lord Y which would be uh Christ yep and I know our Old Testament it's got the same books as the Jewish Old Testament but it's structured differently um the Jewish Old Testament had the Torah which is the same as ours then it had the prophets and the prophets start with Isaiah and ends with Malachi so without having to say he says the whole of the prophets because he quotes from either end has been pointing to this so he quotes the two end pieces to say that they're all talking about this um he even so the Malachi quote you'll notice if you try to go back to Malachi it's not an exact quote it's because he's pulling some of the wording from Exodus when Moses was telling them um the God will send an angel ahead of you um so he's pulling from Exodus as well so you get a bit of a a Moses in there as
well interesting I didn't catch that yeah most uh my Bible actually does point to The Exodus my other Bible does not um but some research pointed that out to me and I thought it was really cool that there's a hidden little third bit in there yeah um and then so again Mark is very light on commentary throughout but he gives those quotes it says there comes one in the wilderness crying out prepare the way for the Lord so as you mentioned this is talking about John is there to prepare the way for the Lord which would be God and who does John bring in Jesus so it's putting Jesus in the slot of God so he's able to make that point of Jesus is god without having to come out and say Jesus is God again it's the writing style of the time very minimal commentary they just they use the Bible to make that commentary we could spend a whole podcast episode just digging into those first three
verses well something else you got in mark
one yeah questions or thoughts I mean I don't know how like deep you want me to go but the first thing that came to mind was John's you know baptizing people and I've always been kind of confused on like why was he baptizing people before Jesus even came like was that like a practice or anything like before that they would have known and how has that changed after Jesus
and now this isn't something that I researched just this week but I do remember and maybe this is in Bible thinker episodes when he does the Mark Series so it's been a while since I've listened to it but baptisms or W cleansing washes is a common practice in that time um and um there's lots of like Pharisees had their own version there was I'm blanking on the names but where the Dead Sea srels were found uh whatever that group was called I forget what they were called they were kind of like an isolationist group they had their own baptism rituals I don't know if it was called baptism but cleansing rituals um but there's all sorts of symbolism in the Old Testament about the waters and how being being delivered through Waters so there's a whole bunch of connections any Jewish person would have had to the idea of going down and up um and then particularly particularly if you're talking about the Jordan River that's invoking the Israelites coming into the Promised Land M so Jesus getting baptized in the Jordan kind of calls back to that bringing Humanity into the Promised future um you had that ah Elisha or Elijah did that baptism for the one commander in the Jordan River so there's all sorts of significance that people would have found um I'm sure there is more out there on that topic though it is a an interesting one that people can dig into yeah so if John is doing a baptism for repentance and the Forgiveness of sins then why did Jesus need to be baptized I think I did look into this one or at least it popped up in something let me see here [Music] um well let's look at what Jesus says right is it in this one [Music]
I think it's in a different gospel that he actually explains
why maybe we'll have to jump over to
that what do you think Matthew that's where I'm looking so you could look somewhere else all right so Matthew 3:15 Jesus answered him allow it for now because this is the way for us to fulfill all righteousness then John allowed him to be
baptized so whatever fulfill all righteousness means I think ah this is what somebody said and people can dig into this more but um Jesus is a representative for us so even though he's not being baptized for the Forgiveness of sins he's taking our place in that act symbol Al for that um and it's also a good launching point of his ministry when the the Trinity all shows up so so it says that the spirit descended on him like a dove I mean maybe this gets into too deep trinitarian Doctrine but like did he not have the Holy Spirit before this moment or I mean there are some complicated terms that people use to describe those exact questions yeah and the short answer is Jesus was never disconnected from God and so you have to hold that belief in order for continuity of everything and there's terms that I forget but um you can go down a whole Rabbit Trail over because the Trinity is a tricky thing because the word Trinity isn't from the Bible but it's taking the concepts that were discussed and putting that together so yes the spirit was always there just the same way God had always been there um but this was a showing um in one account it seems like it was John that was the one that saw that in other accounts it's more vague so did everybody see it um so it could just be that was visible to certain people for the purposes of getting the account in these gospels so yeah um and there another cool thing that Mark does I definitely didn't pick it up until um I pulled up Bible project had a good video on how to read the gospels I went ahead in my week and watched that and they called out not necessarily specifically mark But when the voice Came From Heaven you are my beloved Son with you I'm well pleased that's another quote that's pulling from multiple places in the old scripture it's referencing to Adam and Moses and I forget David I think was one of them so there's using key wordss there that connect to other people in the
Bible and going back full of theology go back pulling it back because you had us read in I believe Exodus or Leviticus about how the bugs you can eat yeah what is like why do they need to tell us that he wore camel's hair and ate Locust and honey it was like is there any significance in that or is it just the camel hair yeah the camel hair part I just heard it or read it somewhere but that was clothing of a prophet but I did not go and confirm that or where else it would say that um and then I only had you go back to Leviticus cuz the first time I read through this I looked at Locust and I was like well surely that's unclean was he being unclean and looked it up and oh no that was a caveat Locust is fine to eat I said oh okay cool now I know so we're going to have some Locus yum really unfortunate they could eat Locust and not bacon back then but I
know so I'm not saying that I have all the answers but M um you can see how a normal Bible study you'd probably just be reading sorry I had to kill a nap be reading through a bunch of stuff but when we force ourselves to slow down go back and Tech find those context it drives up all these questions that you wouldn't have noticed most of the time you just go yep that's John that camel hair wearing person moving on to the next part of the story but when you're being intentional and writing things down and jotting questions all these things are popping and you're like is there something significant to this and that's where sometimes there is and sometimes there isn't yeah anything else with the baptism of Jesus that you wanted to highlight just that so after the baptism so it's it's kind of interesting Israel comes from the Wilderness crosses the Jordan into the promised land Jesus goes to the Jordan out to the Wilderness um Mark has a very short account of the Wilderness testing um and but well it's 40 days and Israel was out there for 40 years I don't know if that's well so you're polling from because in Mark oh there it is 40 days yep so again tying that idea back to you know Israel being tested Jesus being tested um and then it says the Angels were serving him and he was with the wild animals you can think about that brings you to an image of like the lions and bears are just hanging out like oh it's Jesus and they're not like attacking him it's like ah Jesus is another adom you know without having to say it it's the new adom I feel like there's something and I thought it was with Mark 2 but in Isaiah that kind of talked about
something similar Isaiah
43 I will make a way in the wilderness and rivers in the desert the wild beasts will honor me the Jackal and the ostrich for I will give water in the wilderness rivers in the desert to give drink to my chosen people that I think you had us read that for Mark 2 but reminded me you will find Isaiah and Daniel are just getting gonna hit so often throughout the Book of Mark so you can really just tell either mark is sitting there and he's going back and referencing and finding all these references or like that's just how saturated he was in the language of the Bible that that's just how it comes out either or it's incredible and it points to again that this is one book of the Bible not the separate books that I felt like it always was growing up yeah
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um so let me give you an example of where I wrote down a question I thought I had something I was like oh this is an interesting fact and then the more I dug into it and turned up to be nothing so this was the first time that this caught my attention because I'm reading with the the Christian Standard Bible this time around it's a newer Bible of mine um so the translation when he what's the verse we are in Mark 1 verse 21 and so I did a whole comparison of all the translations and so depending on which translation you have it reads differently mine says they went into capernum and right away he entered the synagogue on the Sabbath day began to teach so my version makes it sound like so the story following this is he grabbed um Peter Andrew James and John and then my verse says and right away he entered the synagogue on the Sabbath so that made the Migo hold up so he invited them and then right away they went into the synagogue and it was the Sabbath were they fishing on the Sabbath was Jesus calling the disciples as they were breaking Sabbath law and so you do this comparison study of all these translations and some of them it sounds like yeah that's what it says and then some of them is like well no that one says the next Sabbath and that's where I went down a rabbit hole and it's an Hebrew idiom that means on the next Sabbath so I did all that research to find out no they weren't fishing on the Sabbath so sometimes the process is the point not necessarily that you got something out of it yeah I mean you did get out out of did get something out of it they wer they weren't breaking the Sabbath yet but they they
will all right so then we start to get into Jesus actually performing some
Miracles with some healings and uh some de demon driving out so I guess we'll finish up with that for Mark one thoughts over those
yeah and I feel like this is a common theme I've seen in maybe other gospels or maybe in Mark but this idea that he uh doesn't want people to reveal who he is at this point if you tell like I think it said in Mark he would not permit the demons to speak because they knew him and then later when he cleanses the leper he tells them don't say anything to anyone but go to the priest and there's some other gospels where he heals people and tells them don't tell don't tell people uh and so that's I mean I can kind of see why he wouldn't let the demons to speak you know who would want to let demons speak but because they knew him and seen that I think that's interesting but then I guess right afterwards you see that he does go out and tell people the leper goes out and tells people and then everybody comes swarming to him so maybe that was he was no longer openly enter a town yeah so Mark explains that with Once his notoriety gets too big he can't go into towns and he's got to stay out on the fringes you read in I wrote down that it was John 5 but cursory look I couldn't find the exact verse I was looking for um but in John probably around John 5 um he frames it as the people went to Jesus planning to make him a king so like he's in this weird position of he wants to spread his ministry he wants to help people but he gets too popular and people either want to kill him or they want to make him King which will end up getting him killed you know people have the wrong idea about what he should be as the Messiah and the notoriety doesn't help with his actual Ministry so he's like you'll see him all throughout Mark it's like keeping quiet and running off and over here and O it's getting a bit tense we're going to go on a adventure up north away from everything up until they start to approach Jerusalem and then he's just like he'll heal somebody and not tell them to be quiet he like n at this point doesn't matter here we go so you kind of see that transition happen to Mark and it's really cool yeah I mean as he kind of starts to begin his ministry I liked how kind of each I never really saw it this way but like each story that Mark shares is like revealing another element of Jesus and another element and another element another element he builds it up yeah yeah keep going I never really noticed start simple a she's sick we just heal her fever oh driving out an unclean spirit I guess I think I did those backwards but yeah and then it builds up to calming a storm and all this stuff that was like people don't even have the words for like who who can do that so yeah he's definitely up in the atie and that's oh man which one was it was it John or one of them is like if I think it was John and if we tried to account everything from his ministry there wouldn't be enough Pages like Mark has a lot of things to choose from he's choosing these purposefully either because in this exact moment he's driving a point or the overall story of Mark he's doing this Continuum where you see that spread
so this was a weird thing that came up to me that I never I think I've heard once before they went to Simon's mother-in-law does that mean Peter was married yeah that's and and yet the pope can't be married yeah and yet they Trac it so a little early to start start calling out different uh sorry um they know that they know that um I'm not calling anybody out I'm sorry um yeah um I don't think I would have noticed that I'm a big fan of the chosen not saying you have to like it or not but they have him married in that and this scene plays out and it's like oh yeah I guess the Bible does point to him being married you don't see that necessarily of all the other disciples and so it's kind of interesting yeah and then there's a whole bunch of debates about did she pass away or um different sects of Christianity have handled that differently same thing with Paul seems like there was possibly a wife before did he leave her for his ministry did she die all sorts of people have thoughts and questions over that
cool that is Mark one and if you're listening and you still have questions and you're yelling at us what about this just put it in that uh form and we will get to it at the
end or it'll come back up somewhere else in Mark let's jump into Mark 2 and I'll lead with a question Haley is it easier to heal or is it easier to forgive
sins well because I read Mark I apparently it's easier to forgive
sins I yeah well I I know I can't I guess this is what's confusing to me uh I was just in a marriage Ministry last this week with my husband the the topic was forgiveness and so there's I feel like when I read this you know there's forgiveness of like I can forgive someone of the sin but then there's like God's forgiveness which is like you know of course I could forgive them because I'm also a sinner and we're kind of on equal plane but for somebody who's perfect to forgive like yeah I wonder I wonder if they had a more nuanced wording where there's a forgiveness that you would do with your spouse versus what God's forgiveness is um or in their mind you can forgive someone from their actions but you can't forgive their sins they still have like if you Sinn against me you could say hey it's all forgiven but let's still go take that sacrifice to the temple because we got to offer it up you know so God's still ultimately the one forgiving sins um I love this part because it's a riddle so he ask them is it easier to tell the man your sins are forgiven or to tell them to get up and walk so in that scenario it's easier to say your sins are forgiven because everyone around they have no idea to be like well I I guess maybe but if you say get up and walk now everyone's looking and it better happen or you're wrong so but then the part other part of the riddle is well when you actually look at which one is easier to do not just say but to actually do according to the Pharisees only God can forgive sins so it's actually harder to actually forgive sins than it is to heal a person and yet Jesus Jesus just jumps over the riddle it's like which is harder doesn't matter I can do both I'll do both mik drop yeah and interesting too just at the beginning verse one it says that it was reported that he was at home we would think oh Nazareth but he was in Capernaum which was Peter's home MH yeah so their little home base up in the north yeah you don't get so when you're reading like the gospel of Mark he's framing all the stories and if you watch the Bible project he's framing all the stories we're up in Galilee and then we're on a journey and then we're in Jerusalem so that's what it seemed like his ministry is but reality when you take the other gospels into account it's a three-year Ministry around at least I think they say and he's gone down to Jerusalem before there's actually counts where it's a festival his family's like hey you coming down and he's like no I'm not coming down but then he does go down he just didn't want people to know he was around because it caused problems so he's been down to Jerusalem and stuff like that it's just Mark is framing it all in the storyline of up here in Galilee on a journey and then at Jerusalem so there was probably a point to why I was saying all that Capernaum because they were in Capernaum and that was their home base that's where I was going out with that what questions do you have in Mark I I bet there's a couple that are going to come up here soon because I have to some up yeah I mean I thought it was I mean as he calls all the disciples I'm always kind of curious of like you know what about going with Jesus was so enticing like if somebody I was sitting at work doing my job and somebody came up to me and was like hey come with me now I come live on the road I would seem to ask a couple questions they seem to jump right in but yeah uh yeah so mark 2 he calls Lei which is Matthew MH
um and that's when you know he starts hanging out with tax collectors and Sinners and they kind of question him on
that I don't know if I had any questions about that but just the interesting calling of the disciples I'm always like what about Jesus was just like yeah I'm gonna go
yeah um you know growing up it was always just told like oh following a rabbi was such a prestigious thing but I'm like still you know you got James and John leaving their family business like you can say it's a big thing but to just say all right Dad you guess you got the hired workers by still seems significant I think what's you know the context Jesus's Ministry has already started these people probably already knew about Jesus I me so they were probably already sold Levi is a more interesting case because when you get the historical context like taxpayer meant something to the people who read this um taxpayers collectors they paid money to get their position and then it was totally legal that they overcharge people so that that way they can kind of make back what they paid to get that position so they are not liked by people even though Le Levi would have been Jewish the Jewish people would have saw him as a betrayer and so sellout a sellout yeah and so it's really interesting when you got people like that and then later on youve got Simon the Zealot you got zealot who would have hated tax collectors and a tax collector as his disciples with fishermen it's just like not the people I would have chosen but so
cool maybe next time around he'll pick a an educator and a stay-at-home
mom uh yeah going into the next section about fasting I'll honest ver 21 and 22 always kind of confuses me
uh I know that I've heard it's about like the old Covenant and the New Covenant but it just kind of seems to like come out of nowhere I guess I just I don't know if you have anything like so let's read it for our audience starting at 21 and actually we're gonna start at 18 so we get the context now Jesus now John's disciples and the Pharisees were fasting people came and asked him why do John's disciples and the Pharisees disciple fast but your disciples do not fast Jesus said to them the wedding guests cannot fast while the groom is with them can they as long as they have the groom with them they cannot fast but the time will come when the groom will be taken away from them and they will all they will fast on that day so far I think we're all good it's like Jesus is here no need to fast when I'm here stuff's going on they fast later so that metaphor makes total sense and then like you said I've always read 21 22 and I go that's out of nowhere but we keep it in that context it'll make sense no one sews a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment otherwise the new patch pulls away from the old cloth and a worst tear is made and no one puts a new wine into old wine skins otherwise the wine will burst the skins and the wine is lost as well as the Skins no new wine is put into fresh wine skins so the easy part is okay I get why you don't put a new patch on old clothes like it shrinks pulls the get a worse hole how do that connect to this story and I think the key is that it's bringing up both John's disciples and the Pharisees so even though John's disciples would have kind of been like we're on this new train they're still doing the same fasting practices as the Pharisees um the only required fasting for Jews was based off holidays so it's only once a year or something like that but they had developed this their own rituals of fasting twice a week so even though John's disciples are like oh we're part of this new Messianic movement they're still doing the old things and Jesus coming along and he's saying this is new but unlike John's people who are still doing the old ways you can't just keep doing the old ways this is going to change everything and so we can't just keep doing the same process so it is about the new and old Covenant but it's kind of pointing to how John's disciples are still in that same mindset of follow those rituals and Jesus like it's not about the rituals it's new and we got to get out of that or it's just not going to work and that points to how the Old Testament you can't look at it as if you just follow these rules then you're good because the rules don't cover every possible scenario in life you look at it as wisdom what's the wisdom of these rules and now based off that how do how do I make this choice in my life that's what Jesus is always pointing to that's what Paul is always pointing to um so that's why we're not under the old Covenant but we're still following the wisdom of it no and then after going against the old Covenant in fasting now he's coming against their ideas on Sabbath in the next
section why is Jesus so controversial yeah so the nothing's changed nothing changed countercultural um yeah he wraps it up with so mark 2 wraps up with the his disciples are eating on the
Sabbath and then he references so I'm interested on your thought about this he references back to
David did you have any thoughts about that story
because there's another part of that where critics are going to point and say Mark doesn't know what he's talking about did you catch that
um so verse 26 how he entered the house of God in the time of abar the high priest and ate the bread of presence and then you go back and you read I'm probably not going to find it quick enough but then you read the story and the high priest is amalec I think was the name not ABIA thought that's a good catch I just I think I said this to maybe you before when but a lot of times when I read Bible names I just
kind so I saw it started with an A and didn't even notice that it was a different name yep um we haven't hid any yet but I'm going to out some interesting things about some of the people's names that make make a lot more sense but okay so that looks like a a contradiction do you want to look up real quick 1st Samuel 21 1-9 and let's get the name of that high priest in the story 21 1st Samuel 21 verse 1-9 somewhere in there it gives us the high priest name so the story for those listening story of DAV he's fleeing Saul he stops in certain town where the knob he stopped in knob and to a himc a himc priest that was close and he needed some bread it does just say the priest would it be assumed that he was the high priest he is the high priest but abar is going on the run with no so it's the followup story so David gets the bread he gets Goliath's sword and then they continue off it kind of in that story that I had you read it brings up this one other guy it's like and so and so was standing there too well he reports it to Saul Saul comes and he's asking the priest and the priest are like I'm not talking and so he has that random guy who's not a full Israelite and he goes and he kills all the priests so actually that high priest there dies and so David now on the run with abar who does end up becoming the high priest the reason that Mark would have written this as in the time of abar is again that's a Hebrew Idis when you're referencing the Bible and you're doing so in their time they didn't have numbers there was no chapter markers verse markers it was just a big old scroll and so you would refer to different sections of the scroll so he's basically saying hey just like David in that part of the scroll with abar so that's the reference not that in that little snippet that the story is actually about that he was the high priest then but it's in the section of the scroll that abathar is a part of like instead of us saying hey if you go back to 1 Samuel 21 it would be just be like us hey if you go back to that scroll with David this is going there are parts of Mark this is going to blow your mind and I can't wait till we get to it because that's how they referenc the Bible was something like that or they would just say this was what rabbis would do they would just say the first phrase of a Psalm and then their students would then okay let me load that into my mind you know they just had everything memorized that they say the first phrase and people go okay and now they know what you're working with when you do your little Spiel so totally different context of how they reference the scripture and so that's going to play a huge into so upset because it's at the end we got to wait so many weeks it turned this is my favorite reference in the whole Bible when I figured that out so we'll get there we'll get there teasers um let's wrap up with the final verse why don't you read it 28 so the son of man is Lord even of the
Sabbath son of man what did you think when I had you go reading Daniel 7 did you think it was a mistake um I don't think I actually had son of man underlined in Daniel 7 so immediately it caught my eye I was like oh yeah this is why he's have me read it but then I'm reading it I'm like oh you get to the part it's like and I Daniel was troubled by these things you're like I'm troubled by these things to yeah right it's actually such a cool part of Daniel um but let's first talk about the phrase son of man because it's kind of interesting Jesus references himself as son of man constantly he actually did it earlier in ver 10 so you'll see him referring to himself as son of man you don't get anybody else referring to Jesus as the son of man except for Steven when he's getting martyred that's the only other time because it's kind of a in the Old Testament most of the time son of man just means a human like that's the face value reading of it and then you just have Daniel and I think some of
Ezekiel or a Psalm that reference is son of man in a sort of Messianic mindset and so that's why it was important to go back and read Daniel 7 with and there was a son of man ascending writing the clouds to sit on the throne next to Jesus it's that's that dual nature of Jesus there where he is both humanity and God um and so it's not that Christians are making this stuff up that's all in the Old Testament and even the Jews the Hebrews of the time the Jews of the time would have seen that connection as well do you want to know about all those monsters in Daniel 7 though you ever learned about the monsters um I did a study back in Daniel gosh it have to be over a year ago now I think it was before I had my
son and I don't remember off of the top of my head but I remember it blowing my mind at the yeah he's basically predicting the next four major superpowers so it'd be bab so Assyria Babylon Persia Rome Greek and Rome Rome and then even some of the details about the horns you start to get Alexander the Great references it's bizarre how like if you're interested in that sort of stuff prophecies and fulfilled prophec Bible thinker did a great breakdown of that in his Mark series but I don't remember it all off the top of my head but it's enough for me to go that's an amazing prophecy because he's writing way before any of that
happens and that takes us to the end of our first bible study through marks 1 and two and we will be continuing this next week hopefully everybody who has joined us on online you're getting a lot out of this I tell my small group and friends all the time the more you put into these studies the more you get out of it if you read mark one and two and that's all you do you'll get a little bit out of it and you'll enjoy the conversations if you do all the references you write questions you do research you're going to get even more out of it so the more you do more you get out of it um I do want to set up some teasers for what's coming up next week and some challenges for you on your study um in Mark 3 three it's going to list out the 12 apostles or disciples um this is actually the first time so when you look at the week two study guide I actually have you go read from the other gospels the accounts of when the other when they mentioned the 12 there you can do a pretty cool study either just doing research or writing out those lists and kind of comparing them and you can actually get a lot more out of com doing that sort of study than You' think you would so I'll encourage you you dig into the list of the disciples and what we can learn from that we get our first Markin sandwich and if you're wondering what that is Google it um but Mark uses a really cool writing style to provide commentary without having to write out commentary and so it's really cool so either I'll answer that question next week or people can do their own research on the mark and sandwich it's not just something I'm making up that's a scholarly term and then we start to get into a lot of Parables so that's always good to look at to look forward
to all right are you excited yeah anything you want to say before we uh hit our study tip and wrap up this week of the mark series I don't think so yeah I'm enjoying it so far thanks for I I did miss a joke earlier on no is it okay if we go back can do the joke I would love it our dad joke our name was in the Bible I wouldn't do a dad joke uh Mark 1 verse1 17 at least in my translation it says follow me Jesus told them and I will make you cast a line for
people should we cut that I don't know I am just still I don't know if they can see our names on the on the video yeah but they're going to Forever spell our last name wrong because of how you've decided to name your ministry too late now yeah right we didn't get enough misspellings before at least it won't be mispronounced true true before we leave um thank you all for who are joining us on this podcast and if you want to consider um contributing and supporting us there are links in the description on our website we'd love to uh we'd really appreciate that um to close us out I do have a study tip for everybody and this is referencing back to one of Jesus's teachings about um if your arm causes you to sin cut it off I have taken that advice and it's not necessarily sin but I've always liked end of the day I'm tired let me just watch some shows my brain needs to relax which means no Bible reading gets done which means none of the prepping that I could have been doing gets done I'm just watching shows which watching a show by itself isn't bad but binge watching definitely turns into a sin and so I have to cut off the arm and so to make sure that I'm not like being tempted I just the devices are away like I don't even when I'm finished I'm not watching shows I have long long ago gotten rid of YouTube app off my phone because the YouTube shorts too addicting for me and I have no self-control cut off the arm and if you do that you will find that you have time for Bible studies so figure out what is causing you to s or be distracted and cut that off and you'll find out that you have a lot more time all right that is my Bible tip for everybody and thank you all for joining us have a great week
The Mark Series Week 1
Oct 26, 2024•1 hr•Season 1Ep. 2
Episode description
In this first week of the study of Mark, Kayleigh and I model how this study can be utilized in small group settings by asking great questions and engaging in interesting discussions. Please consider joining us in this study by finding the resources at our website linked below:
www.kastalineministries.org
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