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For All The Mothers

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme of Chivalry with a conversation about the common disconnects in a marital relationship with Shaunti Feldhahn. Shaunti is a best-selling author, podcaster, blogger, and popular speaker. She was formerly an analyst on Wall Street, and she applies her analytical skills to investigating eye-opening and life-changing truths about personal and work relationships. She has authored several books, including “For Women Only” and “For Men Only.”  We also talked with Mandy Arioto about MomCo, the nonprofit organization that encourages and equips Moms of young children. Mandy is the President and CEO of The MomCo, and she is well-known for her unique takes on parenting, relationships, spiritual, and cultural issues. She is a well-known speaker nationally and internationally as well as an author. She has authored several books, including “Have More Fun: How to Be Remarkable, Stop Feeling Stuck, and Start Enjoying Life.”  You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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S1

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S2

It's Cody Carnes. Take you at your word. Well, when you were growing up, did you actually ever have one of those kind of clubhouse treehouse type of things that said, like, no girls allowed or no boys allowed?

S3

I don't think I put a no girls. Well, the problem at not not the problem, but at my house there was only one girl and it was mom. And so there really wasn't a no girls allowed sign because there were barely any girls around to begin with.

S2

I feel like always in those movies, like The Little Rascals or any sort of kid movie, it seems to perpetuate this idea that this is a regular thing where, like boys or girls grouped together and create spaces, treehouses, forts, etc.. Yeah. Where the opposite gender is excluded. Does this happen? Yeah.

S3

I never ran into that. Yeah, it's a real thing. My, my, is.

S2

It a.

S3

Real thing? My niece has a sign on her door that says no boys allowed. And then in little words it says, accept, dad. So really? Yeah. Because. Because dad has to be able to be able to go in there. So. But her brother can't.

S2

So her brother. Interesting. This is excluding you. One person. Uh, somebody any any experience with that? No.

S4

See, that doesn't ring a bell for me. I mean, I know of it, like you said, movies and things like that, but, yeah, I never, never accounted that at at all. How about yourself? I mean, now, you had the three sisters and the one brother.

S2

And we, you know, we happily welcomed him into all of our shenanigans. There you go. He. And and even when he didn't want, I think he probably would have put a sign on his door. Although he never had his own room as the fourth kid. So he definitely always had to tag along with his sisters. But I feel like he was always included. You know, we would there when he was little. We did try to dress him up a couple times, and my dad was like, absolutely not. You can't put a bonnet on him. You

can't treat him like he's a little baby doll. But as he grew up, I feel like he. He was okay being the the one boy in the in the midst of three.

S3

Oh, sure.

S2

Older girls. You know, I I'm asking this because coming up, we're going to, we're going to feature a conversation that for women only things that men need to know for men only things that women would want men to know. And so I was just thinking about that, that sort of. Do you like the idea of, of of now I will say, let me interject here, because in our current climate, we absolutely need to be protecting spaces that are for women only.

S3

Oh, goodness.

S2

Definitely.

S3

So, absolutely.

S2

I'm just going to put that out there because that should honestly that should could should go without saying.

S3

I think.

S2

So there are some spaces that should be absolutely for women only, but I digress. But you know, there are Conversations and things that I think happen among women that may be surprising to men and vice versa. You know, if you get a bunch of women around talking, I think men would sometimes be surprised at what we're talking about, or maybe what we're not talking about.

S4

Yeah, that's why I was thinking.

S2

I don't think they assume.

S4

And it's like, no, no, we don't go down that road.

S2

I at least in my context, I'm not in a lot of environments where I think people think that women like to bash men. I actually don't think that happens nearly as often as men might think.

S3

I think that that's probably fair. I think that the opposite is probably true, too. I think that, you know, the the scenario where all the guys just get around together and complain about their wives. I mean, it's not good when it happens. And sure, sometimes it happens, but I don't think it happens as much as people would think.

S2

We might think. Well, you know what's better than speculation? Cold hard facts, research and expert. Let's talk about that coming up. Freedom Friday here on Karl and crew.

S1

He's a sports fanatic with a stat for anything you can think of. Young Thunder is in the crew. It's Karl and crew on Moody Radio.

S5

Well, one thing you know that we love around here is some good hard data points.

S3

You do love data points.

S5

I love numbers don't lie, baby.

S3

If you can come in with a sheet in front of you that says, you know, I got the numbers on this, you are pumped up more than I've ever.

S5

That's why I love you. Young Thunder, not only you. Great synthesizer of truth. You are stat man.

S3

I do love a good stat. Stats are fun, man.

S5

We got an incredible guest with us right now. Shante Feldhuhn is a researcher big time. From when she was a little kid. Obviously she aspired to get to Harvard and she did it. Formerly an analyst on Wall Street, she uses these analytical skills in a powerful way. Has some groundbreaking Breaking research that was uncorked a number of years ago, and it's still living today. Shanti, how are you?

S6

I'm good. It's great to be with you guys.

S5

Great to have you with us today. Let's break it down. We're steaming toward Mother's Day. And, I mean, it's in two days here. And I just want to ask you, what in the world do we miss? Like, the broad side of a barn about women that your research proved.

S6

I am so glad you are asking that question. And can I just tell you that when you talk about loving numbers, you are speaking my love language?

S5

I knew, I knew it. She's a data girl.

S6

Yep, exactly. I will tell you. And I will tell especially all the men out there who are listening to this, that one of the most important things that you miss about your wife, or perhaps your girlfriend, is that you think that once you got married that she feels permanently loved and that is not the case. There is no switch in her brain that gets flipped to the Ow. I feel permanently loved now. Sort of position. And instead we found 82% of women. And by the way, this

is not a Facebook poll. This is a big, expensive, nationally representative survey of women. We found 82% of women, even in the best relationships, have that question in the back of their head that does he really love me? Kind of question.

S5

So one first question is where did where did we begin to buy that lie? And number two, how in the world do we dig out of that and begin to really get proactive with that information? Because that's good information.

S6

Well, the most important thing I think for men, honestly, this is this is one of the other things that we found in the research as well, is there's something that starts when you're like kids, honestly, or teenagers and you're talking in the locker room and you kind of roll your eyes and you laugh about how women are so mysterious and they're never going to be understood. It's true. And you kind of have this idea that there's something

in women that's just kind of random. And so, you know, you can try all you want, but you're never going to quite understand her. And that is a lie. It's a lie from the pit. Honestly. Yes. Because what it does is it sets up every man with this myth that, you know what, some part of me is never going to be able to make it, you know, figure her out. And so if something is confusing, I just kind of throw up my hands and say, okay, it's that random

part of her. Move along. And so you wouldn't do that in any other part of your life if something happened at work and your boss said something and you didn't understand, let me tell you, you're not going to just assume he's being random. No, you're going to try to figure out why it happened, and so you can figure out how to handle things better and how to actually sort of become in step into that role that you've been given and do it well. And it's the

same thing with being a husband. Your wife may seem mysterious, but I can promise you, when women can be systematized and understood just like you men can. So that's the first step.

S5

That's beautiful. You know, Shanti, this has been a phenomenon that I have lived through. I lived in the locker room education kind of model. And that's what most men had. But now we've got this crazy cultural phenomenon where culture is screaming. Throw men and women into a blender, and you get this gender amorphous, weird dysfunction thing where there's no distinction celebrated in everybody's the loser. Shanti, what are we going to do? You've got not only got data points,

your research leads to the bigger. Yes. How do we elevate and separate without denigrating man and woman?

S6

Well, one of the most important things for especially men to recognize is that most people, including most women, know that there are differences, right? Like, it's only a really small number of people that have bought that kind of cultural sort of extreme concept. So let's sort of set that aside and just say, okay, people are going to believe what they want to believe. Everybody else knows the truth.

And so for men to not be afraid of saying, okay, my wife or my girlfriend is different from me, it doesn't mean that there's any kind of discord that has to happen. It doesn't mean that there's any kind of defect. It's just different. And so this is something I can

work with. As long as I understand it, I will tell you, here's what my my prayer is for all the men listening to this we found in our research over the last 20 years, 20 plus years now that most of the time when you have discord, you've got a couple who really cares about each other. You've got a husband and wife who really love one another, and

they are both trying really hard. But because they don't know some of these differences, these little things that are going on inside the life of the person that they're married to, they're trying hard in the wrong areas and they're missing each other, or even worse, they're trying hard and they're actually hurting their spouse's feelings, and they would

never intend to know. And so what we find is that if you learn these little things, you can try hard in the right areas, and suddenly there is so much more hope and so much more peace, and everything just seems to flow.

S5

Dynamite. Shaunti Feldhahn is my guest right now. She. We've got links coming to you soon with even stories of hope that are going to fire you up. But coming up here, let's talk about those little things, because the one thing that I know as a pastor for many decades now, or at least several, and being on radio, we've got empirical data that comes in here and anecdotal stuff, but the fact is, it's usually not the big things. Remember when Howard Hendricks used to say, shanty, that there's

never such thing as a blowout? It's always a slow leak in marriage. It's true. So coming up, let's talk about the little things so that we aren't building walls between husband and wife, men and women, one little cinder block at a time. Hang on.

S1

You can take him out of Alaska, but you can't take Alaska out of him. Carl is in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio with me.

S5

Shanti Feldhuhn. She is a best selling author, podcaster, blogger, great communicator, speaker. I heard her a number of years ago down at Saint Pete Beach. My goodness. With Family Life Weekend to Remember Speakers Retreat and what you were sharing then and even today. So liberating. Let's dig into the data a little bit. Shanti. What are the little things that men can do that can reclaim that At that ongoing courtship really care for the needs of a woman in the way she's made.

S6

The most important thing. Okay, let's hearken back to what I said, that 82% of women have this question. This does he really love me? Kind of question in their head. So the first thing is to recognize, okay, there's something in the heart of a woman. And this is. By the way, I need to say this out loud. Obviously, this is not 100% right. There's everybody's an individual. If 82% said one way, that means 18% didn't. So use this, by the way guys, as a starting point, not an

ending point. This is a starting point for your conversation. But what that usually means is that most women have in their heart an am I lovable question. It's not just do you love me? The reason they're asking that is because you got to back up. It's because of the am I lovable question in her heart. And so if you look for ways to answer that question. Every day you are going to be her hero. And here are some of the little things that we found that

answer that question for her every day. Because you're you're looking to send her that message every day. We found statistically that things as simple as, like reaching across and taking her hand. When you're walking across a parking lot that says all the things her heart is longing to hear, right? Like that says, I'm so glad I married you. That's

what she's looking for. Things like putting your arm around her at church, or when you're, like, sitting with a couple at a, you know, at a dinner out or whatever, and you put your arm around her or you put your hand on her knee that says, I would choose you all over again. That says, I love you so much. Little things like texting her during the day, even if it's just this little tiny thought of how grateful you

are for her. If you will take 30s and send a little text message saying, man, this has been a really rough day. I can't wait to see you tonight. I love you so much. I'm so glad you're mine and you press send. She will screenshot that text message, I promise you.

S5

Yeah.

S6

That's powerful. These little things we found statistically make a really, really big difference.

S5

Let's hear a story. You must have a story of someone that went from, you know, because. Because men, men, we are great hunters. We are horrible at taking care of that game. And I'm being very hyperbolic here, but if you go into the hunting metaphor, we're great at going out. We can get in disguise. We can, you know, get that girl, and then we throw her over our shoulder and think that it's done. It's just begun. You must have a story of a man that's gotten this right.

S6

Many? Yes. Well, I will tell you. Something happened not that long ago. Jeff and I were doing a marriage event, and we, you know, we speak at marriage conferences and date nights and that kind of thing. And a guy came up to us who had kind of like, you had heard us at an event, I don't know, like a few years back, we had been at his church, at a different church, and he came up with this kind of bemused expression on his face, and he was like,

you're not going to believe this, he said. We literally were shaking towards divorce. Like, that's how hard it was. He was like I was working to provide. I was trying so hard and, you know, trying so much to be the man that she wanted me to be. And she was always unhappy and saying, you know, that I never listened to her and, you know, all the things.

And he said, you told us that listening to a woman means not listen for the problem I want to solve, but listen to my feelings, listen to my upset and my hurt about what happened at work today. And he said, I started doing that, and I started doing what you told me to, which is to ignore the problem for a minute, like make that step to. And he said she started just like would start bawling. She would start crying, but like in a good way. Like, I'm so grateful that,

you know, you care about me in this way. And he's like, I always cared about her. He's like, I just didn't realize that this is like one key shift, one little thing that could actually show her in the way she needed to be shown. So anyway, we we constantly have couples coming up to us with tears in their eyes, telling us, I had no idea that I was hurting my spouse's feelings. I would never have wanted to.

And this is basically giving me the tools. It's like tools in a toolbox to okay, now I know how to do it right. And it's so simple.

S5

It's power. Shanti Feldon is her name and she has some phenomenal content. Shanti has authored two books that have sold over 3 million copies in 25 languages. That's how good this stuff is. It's called for women only and for men only. With one link, I'm going to give you here in just a moment. You're going to be getting link to those books and or we've got a powerhouse story of a couple that really did it right and turned everything around. No cost for this. No paywall.

Just here to help you. This is what you do. Boom. Crew. Text the word only right now. Just only just that one word to 800 555, 78, 98. Text only to 800 555 7898.

S1

She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her. Super dei is in the crew. It's Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

S2

Well, some of my best memories when my kids were little was being a part of a mom's ministry. Our initial gatherings were very informal, folding chairs in a room where the kids were right next door. They were trying. A couple of babysitters were trying to keep them quiet, but inevitably kids would run in and out or fall or there'd be crying. But you know what? It was a lifeline for me as I tried to navigate those early years of motherhood. We need each other. I know

our special guest would wholeheartedly agree. Mandy Areata joining us right now, she's the president and CEO of the Mom Co, formerly Mops or Moms of Preschoolers, but now rebranded moms absolutely need each other and the stats prove that out, right?

S7

Absolutely. What we're seeing is that moms are experiencing an epidemic of loneliness, and there's so much better when they have one another to support and guide and say, yes, me too. I'm going through the same thing.

S2

You know, one of the I think unique challenges of motherhood for this generation is the ability to see or to feel like you're seeing into the lives of so many different moms through social media. So the mom blogs and the mom influencers and the mom YouTubers. I feel like we've never been more inundated with what feels like examples, sometimes unattainable standard of what it looks like to mom. Well, how are you seeing that impact the women, Christian women in general?

S7

Absolutely. I think we get to see a lot of people from afar, from a distance. And then when we come together in community and we're actually face to face and eyeball to eyeball and sharing our real stories, we recognize, oh my goodness, everybody else is going through the same things I am. And so there's this camaraderie when we're

in proximity with each other. And the other thing that we're recognizing is that as moms, we're inundated with so much information that we are starting to lose our intuition, our gut feeling and trusting that intuition that we know what's best for our kids and that we don't have to constantly be consuming more information, but that we can trust that God has given us the ability to parent our kids well.

S2

Tell me a little bit more about the mom co. It used to be called mops and many will know it as that. I know you reaches over 10 million women globally, but tell us for those who are hearing of it for the first time.

S7

Yeah, we're the mom community mom co for short. And really, we gather women together because we recognize that moms are some of the most powerful influencers on the planet. You know, lots of times as society, we think if we want to change the world, where do we start? We start with politics or education or the economy. But what we forget is that moms are the ones behind the scenes influencing every single one of those things. And so we gather moms together. We help remind them that the work

they're doing is significant. We provide practical training and resources and mentoring, and we work in 109 countries and 30 different languages, because motherhood is this common denominator that bonds us all together.

S2

Tell me about your own journey as a mom. What did you feel like you needed most that maybe you weren't able to grab hold of? I don't know how your. you're if you still have littles or if you're further on in your parenting journey.

S7

Yeah, I have three kids and they are all heading off to college now. And I just recognize, you know, I thought I needed my mom community when my kids were little, and I absolutely did. And now, as I'm parenting teenagers and young adults, I recognize I still need that mom community just as much now as I did

when they were little. And so I think it just follows us throughout our whole lives, our whole mothering journey, that having those friends to support us and, you know, just speak life and hope and give practical resources is just a lifeline that we all need at every stage of our mothering.

S2

What context are you seeing mom co flourish the most? Is it in the local church? Is it in homeschool groups? Where are you seeing these groups really thrive?

S7

We have mom co groups in churches and that is absolutely a phenomenal place where we see moms thriving. But we also have groups that meet in homes and, you know, around the world in community centers, libraries all over the place.

And really, it's not the location that matters. It's the women coming together and being honest and vulnerable and getting real about their stories and talking about the things that really matter most, because that's how we help each other thrive and grow, not only as followers of Jesus, but as moms and as wives and in every aspect of our work and relationships. When we're together and honest and vulnerable, that's what's most important.

S2

You know, at the heart of this is the gospel of Jesus Christ, because anybody who's you never feel maybe more vulnerable than when you're tasked with raising a child and you and you realize how little control you have. You never had control, but you had the illusion of it. But then you have a child and you realize, my goodness, the things that they go through that I can't take away. And your dependence on God absolutely has to be at

the forefront. The power of the Holy Spirit to even allow us to be the kind of moms we were called to be. I know that's your heart as well.

S7

100% what we recognize is motherhood is just this opportunity that opens us to God in a new way and helps us recognize, just like you said, our vulnerability and our reliance on him to raise kids and what we found at the mom Co and what we see every day is that moms are some of the most powerful evangelists on the planet. Like, you want to spread the

message of Jesus far and wide. You start with moms because it's exponential evangelism, because when she meets Jesus, so do her kids and her husband and her friends and her community. And so word of mom is this powerful thing that it's like latent potential in the church's hands that when they resource moms, the kingdom grows and multiplies in exponential ways.

S2

You have a new podcast that just released. It's a limited edition podcast called Bloodline and Backbone, talking about the spiritual legacy of motherhood. Give us a thought on that.

S7

Bloodline and backbone is really this unconventional podcast about motherhood. It's gritty and honest and well researched, and it talks about the history of motherhood through the ages, and how moms have influenced medicine and wars and politics and finances. And it's this fascinating look at the way that moms have foundationally changed the fabric of society. And so it's fascinating.

And it really points back to the truth that Jesus has mobilized moms throughout the centuries to be purveyors of his word, and to pass it down from generation to generation.

S2

I want to make sure that you can get Ahold of this, that you can get connected to the mom co, you can see if there's a group in your area or even about starting one. Just text mom Co to 800 555 7898 mom Co just like it sounds. Mom Co to 855 five 7898. We'll throw the link for the podcast in there as well.

S1

A basketball mom who's mastered the dad joke. Ali is in the crew. It's Carlin crew on Moody Radio.

S2

You know, God often uses uses moms to help you find your place in the world.

S3

Oh yeah. Absolutely.

S2

The moms who love and who encourage and who serve. And oftentimes it's not. If you're privileged to have your own mom who does that for you. Awesome. You still need other moms to do it.

S3

No doubt.

S2

And how much more? So if you don't have that right. And so on this Freedom Friday, I want to ask you this question. I want to hear your story of a mom who had a pivotal influence in your coming to faith in Christ. Tell me about the role a mom played in your freedom story. Could be your mom or grandma or aunt. It could be a Sunday school teacher, a neighbor, a friend. I didn't even think about when I first was thinking about this question. But sometimes it's a it's a it can be a peer.

S4

Yes it.

S2

Can. It doesn't even have to be someone older than you. It could be a mom who was younger than you. But that woman that mom played a pivotal role in your coming to faith in Christ, and that's what I want to hear about on this. Heading into Mother's Day weekend, they prayed, spoke truth, discipled, shared the gospel. One of those things. Maybe something else. Maybe all of the above.

855 five 7898 855 five 7898. You know, I was going to a church at a time, and I there was a young woman who had a difficult family situation going on, and there was a mom at the church who took it upon herself to kind of become a, a mom figure for this young woman.

S4

I love that.

S2

Brought her into her home, discipled, mentored, walked her through some really tough stuff. And it wasn't just her, though. She kind of assembled sort of a mini network of other of other women who could kind of co-mother this young girl who had been through some really tough stuff.

S4

That's inspiring.

S2

It. I mean, it was it was pretty remarkable to see. And and so the growth and the development of this young woman, because of the love of a mother who wasn't her own, and then the love of other women who stepped in to fill in where there were even more gaps. And she was sort of collectively mothered by the group.

S4

That is going to cheer me up. That's actually beautiful and inspiring. And even on this day, going into Mother's Day, you know, whatever your background may be, maybe take that into heart, into this weekend. Really look around your church this Sunday. You can tell by faces. You can tell by who's there and what's going on. Maybe it's something within your church that you can take the lead on.

S2

Yeah. And so phone lines open now if you've got a story. What role did a mom play in your freedom story. And you're coming to faith in Christ? 800 555 7898. I want to keep reiterating maybe it was your own mom. Maybe it wasn't. Both are awesome and needed. 800 555 7898.

S8

My coat of many colors that my mama made for me made only from rage. But I wore it so proudly.

S2

What is this, Jonathan?

S3

Oh, Dolly.

S8

Parton. I had no money. Interesting. I was rich as I could be in my coat of many colors my momma made for me.

S2

Yes, this is Moody Radio.

S4

It's a story. When she was younger.

S2

Okay, tell me.

S4

What's the.

S2

Story?

S3

So the whole song is is a progressive story, but it's. They. She grew up really poor, and her mom took a bunch of different fabrics of a bunch of different colors and sewed it all together. And as she was sewing it, she told Dolly about the story from the Bible, where Joseph had a coat of many colors. And and then she made this coat for for her. And although they had no money and it wasn't worth anything, her mom made it for her.

S4

And initially she didn't want to wear it. She actually didn't wear it. At first she was a little embarrassed because she was getting kind of ridiculed at school, but then it turned around and was very pivotal. And just talking her, her father actually spoke into her in like the love that was behind the patchwork and what was built within this coat. Wow. So it really was pivotal for her and her heart and her faith.

S2

Okay. Okay. Wow. How did you both just know that story?

S3

Well, I read the lyrics of the song, and then I. So I learned it as I'm.

S2

Going to say. Is this just like, commonly a commonly known.

S4

Story or a little of her story? I know a little of her story. Wow. So. Well.

S2

That's awesome. Well, we're celebrating moms all this week. Um, I want to take you to second Timothy one five. This is Paul to Timothy, and he says, I am reminded of your sincere faith, a faith that dwelt first in your grandmother Lois and your mother Eunice. And now I am sure, dwells in you. Timothy had a rich Spiritual legacy through a grandma and a mom who served the Lord. Maybe that was the case for you, but maybe it was another mom who spoke into your life

who was a part of your freedom story. I'm asking you, what role did a mom play in your journey with Christ? Sharing the gospel. Praying for you. Discipling you. 800 555 7898. Let's go to Don calling in this morning from Illinois. Don, tell me, what role did a mom play in your freedom story?

S9

My future mother in law. I wanted to date her daughter in high school and her daughter was a Christian. I had not been raised in the church, was not a Christian. And so she would she invited me to church. She said, why don't you come to church and then come to our house after church for for dinner every every Sunday? She'd do that. Wow. And so then I started to come, come under the hearing of the Word of God. And by the time I was a college student at age 22, I came to know Christ because

of the great impact of my mother in law. I know she was praying for me, and she would talk to me about the Lord all the time. So I've always hated mother in law jokes because I had the best mother in law.

S2

Oh.

S3

That's so.

S4

Sweet.

S2

Wow. I love that story. Thank you so much, dawn from Illinois. Man, that's what I'm talking about. That's great. That's incredible. Let's keep it going. John from Illinois, tell me, what role did a mom play in your faith journey with the Lord?

S10

Oh, hi. Good morning. Yeah. Um, our mom is. She's just really was always a blessing. Her name is Barb, and she raised seven children in Chicago. My parents are actually still together, been married over 50 years, and just really lived out the love of Yeshua of Jesus to all of us, you know, which is, you know, I believe that's so important. Like like in the Hebrew Shema Israel. It's like, uh, action. You know, James says, be doers of the word and just that the love of a mother.

And of course, fathers too, and all.

S2

Absolutely.

S10

It was just really special. I just always kept our family together and, uh, appreciate it so much.

S2

Thank you. John calling in this morning from Illinois. Yes, we're. This is definitely not to diminish the role of dads by any means, but.

S3

It's mom.

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It's moms. It's Mother's Day weekend. So we're going to cheer for the moms and the mom figures who stepped in and played a pivotal role in your journey of faith with the Lord. Uh, Aaron calling in from Illinois. Tell me. It was a it was a woman in your in college?

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Yes. Um. Good morning. I, uh, went to school about six hours away from home. And, um, in my senior, junior or senior year of college, I went through what felt like the biggest thing that had ever happened to me, just personally. Yeah. Um, I was away from my own mom and this woman. I had gone on a mission trip with her. She invited me into her home with her family almost nightly because of what I was going through, and she just can vividly remember her opening her Bible

and writing in the margins of her Bible. What we were praying for, writing the date down. And, um, I would sit on her bed with her. She had just been diagnosed with cancer, and just like the ways that she poured into me, even when she was going through the darkest time of her life, was just so inspiring to me.

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Wow. Aaron, thank you so much for that story. It's so incredible. I mean, you think about the impact that that you can have in a person's life and and sometimes I wonder if that woman even knows years later that, that that Aaron would call in this morning because she had that kind of an impact. What's your story? Who is the mom in your life? The mom figure in your life who played a pivotal role in your journey with the Lord? Uh, maybe coming and helping you come

to faith. Sharing the gospel, discipling you, encouraging you. 800 555 7898. We'll take a couple more phone calls here. 800 555 7898. Freedom Friday here on Carl and crew.

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Your shot of hope to help you through the day. This is Carl and crew on Moody Radio.

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Want to get right back to the phones? We've been asking you this question on this Freedom Friday ahead of Mother's Day. What role did a mom play the pivotal role of mom played in your freedom story? Your maybe coming to faith in Christ. You're being discipled. There was a mom who prayed for you. You tell me what that looked like for you. What role did a mom play in your freedom story? 800 555 7898. Let's go to Rosa calling in this morning from Chicago. Tell me.

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Hi. Um, well, it was my mother in law. I did not grow up in a Christian home, and she did invite me once to church. And I did go. And she told me, you know, if I died right now, I know I'd go to heaven. I said, well, how? Just because Jesus lives in me. And she went on to explain that, and because of that and her taking me under her wing, I was a single mom when I met her son. And through her I became a Christian, my family and even my grandparents.

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Wow.

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I was blessed.

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Wow. Rosa from Chicago. What a spiritual legacy.

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And I love the I love the continuing kind of aftershock impact of that. Yeah. You know where this this woman who now is her mother in law, invested in her, brought her to Christ, and now she's bringing people from her family, her grandparents, to Christ. I mean, that's that's incredible.

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Yeah. You know, I never want to miss an opportunity to tell you what it looks like to follow Jesus. We we never assume that everyone listening to this radio station already knows Jesus. You may be listening. And you hear something like. Or her mention that a mother in law said, I know I'm going to heaven, and sometimes that can rattle your cage a little bit because you think, well, what does that mean for me? If I don't know Jesus,

do I not spend eternity in heaven? That's that. That biblically, that's absolutely true, that it is those of us who are in a relationship with Jesus Christ because of the blood of Jesus Christ, we are made new. We're declared perfectly righteous in his sight, and therefore we are welcomed into eternity with the father and the. For those who do not know Christ, we can't get around the fact that hell is a real place, and those who are separated,

separated from God will spend eternity separated from God. So here's what you need to know today. You need to admit that you are a sinner. It's. Most of us think of ourselves as good people as those who try to do the right thing. But the Bible says that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. So every single person is born into sin. That is our condition from the very beginning. Once you recognize that you're a sinner, you need to acknowledge that as sinners,

we deserve death. When you when you stand before a holy God, sin cannot, has no place with God. So our sin deserves death. Which sounds really harsh, right? Because we underestimate the power of sin.

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Yes. We think it's just a little thing here or a little thing there.

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Holy God, you think about. I mean, you think about the fact that you know, how in on the solar eclipse they're a big deal is made of the fact that you you cannot look directly at the sun? Yes. That like there's a physical blinding that can happen if you were to try to look directly at the sun. Well, who do you think made the sun? So how much more? So think about the the holiness of God. Infinitely more powerful than looking or trying to look directly into a

solar eclipse. We We cannot stand before a holy God in our sin and live. There had to be a price that was paid for us to be reconciled to God. And the good news, the absolute good news is that Jesus Christ paid that sin, paid that price rather for our sin. He died. He rose again so that we could have new life. And so what do you do today? You put your trust in Jesus Christ as your Savior. You acknowledge that he's not just it's not just that

there's something bigger out there. It's that you say, Jesus, you are the way and the truth and the life. And today I put my trust in you as Savior. I confess that I'm a sinner, I turn, I repent, I go a new way. Today I follow you. And if by the power of the Holy Spirit that you see it now, maybe you've never seen it before. But today is the day that the Holy Spirit is making that clear to you. I don't want to miss this opportunity to tell you that today you can be made

right with God. And if that's you in the quiet of your house or your car or wherever you happen to find yourself, maybe you're on the train listening right now. You can have that quiet moment with God where you say, I am a sinner. I need a Savior. And today I turn and I follow Jesus. I confess that I need you, that I now see that there is no life apart from you. Jesus, today I want to make you not just my Lord, my Savior, and my friend. I want to pray for you, Lord, for the person who.

Maybe there's just one. Maybe there's many who today are seeing it for the first time. That there's no life apart from you. Lord, I pray that you would just flood their soul with such joy in your presence, God, that as they're being made new Lord, that they would experience that refreshment. The burden being lifted, the sin that they've been carrying, being removed, becoming a new creation. Lord, all of those things we know are happening right now

because of Jesus. So, Lord, would you would you bless and cover and protect this person? Lord, would you bring them quickly to a place where they could be connected with other believers? Lord? Um, this word that's been deposited in them. God, would you protect it? Lord? Let them have roots that go down deep in you. Lord, I thank you, Lord Jesus. I thank you for what you're doing right now in my brother or sister, in Jesus name, Amen.

And today I can call you a brother or sister, because now you are welcomed into the family of God. So if that's you, just text the word new to 800 555 7898. Text new to 805, 55 7898. Want to send you a resource that's going to give you some encouragement, some practical next steps?

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