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K9 Detection Collaborative

Stacy Barnett, Robin Greubel, Crystal Wingk9detectioncollaborative.com
Candid conversations about the reality of training, deploying, or competing with a canine partner. Each episode is a cross pollination from the professional and sport canine camps, exploring how we all want the same thing: A great relationship with our dog.With humor, and a big dose of theory, we talk practical training advice and includes interviews with top trainers and scientists. We keep it fun, honest, and rated PG 13ish.
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Episodes

MUTC 2025 Recap and Updates!

What to listen for: “You’re putting so much pressure on yourself, and that’s impacting your dog.” Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing chat about what they’ve been up to lately, including their recent experience at the Muscatatuck Open, a high-level canine detection seminar known for its complex scent theory drills and immersive training. They discuss how the seminar’s intense setups—with full-body donor work, long-term odor problems, and unique hide placements—challen...

Jul 01, 202553 minEp. 141

Detection Dog Science with Secret Service Chemist Dr. Katylynn Sloan Pt 2

What to listen for: Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing return with the brilliant Katylynn Sloan for part two of their conversation on the intersection between chemistry and K9 detection! “Train with as much variety as often as you can, in the weirdest of circumstances you can possibly get to, with as many groups and as many people as you can.” Katylynn dives into one of the most misunderstood topics in the detection world: training aids. She breaks down why the term “pseudo” is falling out of favor,...

Jun 17, 202545 minEp. 140

Detection Dog Science with Secret Service Chemist Dr. Katylynn Sloan Pt 1

What to listen for: “The dogs are so good at what they do, it’s brain-boggling.” Today, 2/3 of our hosts, Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing, welcome Katylynn Sloan, a chemist with the U.S. Secret Service, to explore the eye-opening intersection of science and canine detection work. With a PhD in chemistry and years in explosives research, Katylynn brings a fresh lens to how odor behaves, how dogs detect it, and why context matters. She explains how high vapor pressure substances like nitroglycerin ...

Jun 03, 20251 hr 3 minEp. 139

Critical Thinking in Dog Training

What to listen for: "To truly understand your dog, embrace the power of observation, question the environment, and engage with the nuances of their behavior." Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Crystal Wing, and Stacy Barnett, take a deep dive into the role of critical thinking for handlers. We’ve all been there—reading a viral dog training post and feeling an emotional gut-punch, or second-guessing ourselves after watching a training video. We need to learn to slow down, analyze, and ask better question...

May 20, 202558 minEp. 138

Consistency in Dog Training Pt 3: Why is it So Hard?

What to listen for: In the third part of the series on consistency, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing dive deeper into what makes consistency such a challenge—and how to truly make it work in real life. Staying consistent isn’t just about following a routine. It’s about self-awareness, emotion management, and breaking behaviors down into manageable slices. The Dames of Detection get real about how emotions, fatigue, scheduling, and even peer pressure can all derail our bes...

May 06, 202555 minEp. 137

Consistency in Dog Training Pt 2: Mechanics and Reinforcement

What to listen for: In the second part of the series on consistency, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing take a closer look at the mechanics of consistency, from creating intentional setup signals to reinforcing behaviors for longevity! You’ve probably heard about marker timing and reinforcement. Today, our hosts take a fresh look at the finer details—like how you stand, where you point your toes, and even the words you use when training your dog to shape new behaviors. The ...

Apr 22, 202556 minEp. 136

Consistency in Dog Training Pt 1

What to listen for: “You’re constantly writing and rewriting a contract with your dog.” Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing tackle the power of consistency, the pitfalls of “lumpy” training, and why even small slip-ups can throw your dog off track. They break down how to build a rock-solid training environment and avoid the hidden traps that sabotage progress. “The clearer and more predictable you are, the faster your dog will learn.” Our hosts swap real-life stories ...

Apr 08, 20251 hrEp. 135

How Do I Pick My Criteria?

What to listen for: Training your dog to adhere to your criteria consistently is not a cut-and-dry process. It’s one of the trickiest balancing acts in dog training: when to hold the line and when to make adjustments within behavior chains. “Consistency is not about perfection, but predictability.” Dog handling, whether for sport or operational detection, is both an art and a science–which means embracing flexibility and precision in equal measure. Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Cr...

Mar 25, 202558 minEp. 134

Getting the Most Out of Virtual Coaching

What to listen for: Today in K9 Detection Collaborative, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss the keys to successful virtual training. “Virtual coaching is student-driven. Anything propelled by student drive, drives results.” Making the switch from in-person to online coaching can be a tough sell for many. But as our hosts explain, there can be many limitations to your growth as a handler when you confine yourself to local training sessions. “When you’re stuck in your...

Mar 11, 20251 hr 1 minEp. 133

What Else Should You NOT Do with Your Dog?

What to listen for: Our hosts Robin, Stacy, and Crystal tackle not just the technical, but also the legal considerations of cross-training your dogs. After all, when a dog is run through both narcotics and explosives detection work and engaged in a high-stakes operation, the consequences can be disastrous if they are unable to respond to the right odors on time–simply because their training emphasizes diversity over specialization. At the same time, if done strategically, it is possible to cross...

Feb 25, 202554 minEp. 132

Reflections on Chatting with Denise Fenzi

What to listen for: Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing, reflect on their recent two-part conversation with Denise Fenzi and her strategies for ensuring steady, measurable progress when training your dog. “Learning is a fragile place. Being correct is a reward in itself.” Denise is a staunch advocate for finding your compass—a guiding principle that does wonders not just in your career as a handler, but in your personal life as well. This, along with understanding that lear...

Feb 11, 202557 minEp. 131

A Conversation with Denise Fenzi Part 2: Choosing the Right Dog for the Job

What to listen for: In part two of their discussion with the brilliant Denise Fenzi, our hosts Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing explore the delicate dance between striving for precision and cherishing the quirks of canine behavior! “Your dog has to have a lot of ‘want to.’ If they don’t have a lot of ‘want to,’ they’re not the right dog for the job.” Denise explains why picking the right dog for the job from the get-go is foundational to success. When you bring a dog with the right desire to the t...

Jan 28, 20251 hr 3 minEp. 130

A Conversation with Denise Fenzi Part 1: A Humane Approach to Building Behavior Chains

What to listen for: “If I cannot, in five repetitions, isolate a variable down and get it where I want it, I do need to stop. That doesn't mean the next time we'll be successful. What that tells me is, don't do the same thing again and again and again. And there's been a lot of variation. Isolate that variable. It looks good now. Put it back in a chain, it doesn't look good. What have I done wrong?” In part one of this two-part discussion, Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing sit down with special gue...

Jan 14, 202546 minEp. 129

Reflections on Training Ideas and Takeaways from our SAR Friends

What to listen for: Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing reflect on key takeaways from their recent conversations with Diana Bunch , Jack Thorpe, and Annissia Justice – all expert handlers with a golden nugget or two (or 100s) around cadaver dog and disaster response training. From avoiding the "ego hide" trap, to getting more out of nose time, to the importance of balancing motivation and frustration during training, our hosts explore the nuances of preparing dogs—and...

Dec 31, 202459 minEp. 128

Training Ideas and Takeaways with Diana Bunch

What to listen for: Today, 2/3 of the Dames of Detection - Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing - are sitting down with special guest Diana Bunch, an Air Force veteran-turned-search and rescue trainer. Diana shares her inspiring journey from the military to the world of disaster response, running through her various experiences in various search scenarios, from wilderness expeditions to urban disaster zones. Our guest dives deep into the art and science of training search dogs, whether you’re a longti...

Dec 17, 202458 minEp. 127

Talking Cadaver Dog Training with Jack Thorpe and Annissia Justice (pt. 2)

What to listen for: In the second part of the two-part discussion, our hosts, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing, continue their interview with expert trainers Jack Thorpe and Annissia Justice. Drawing from their recent experience doing search and rescue in the aftermath of the floods brought on by Hurricane Doreen, our guests do a deep dive into their best tips and strategies around cadaver dog training. “Blinds are the number one way to read your dog.” Jack and Annissia discuss the keys to incorp...

Dec 03, 20241 hrEp. 126

Talking Cadaver Dog Training with Jack Thorpe and Annissia Justice (pt. 1)

What to listen for: Today, two of the three Dames of Detection, Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing, sit down with two amazing handlers, Jack Thorpe and Annissia Justice. Drawing from their recent experience doing search and rescue in the aftermath of the floods brought on by Hurricane Helene, our guests do a deep dive into their best tips and strategies around cadaver dog training. Listen in as they uncover the secrets behind successful canine search teams, particularly those operating in disaster s...

Nov 26, 202451 minEp. 125

Do You Want to Reinforce Sniffing During a Search?

What to listen for: In today’s episode of K9 Detection Collaborative, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss the keys to cleaning up your dog’s behavior chain to help them stay on track and avoid distractions in the field. When it comes to reinforcing behavior, it’s just as important to get clear on when not to train particular habits. Their rule of thumb? Avoid reinforcing tactics during moments of frustration in your dog. It’s important to be systematic when training ...

Nov 12, 202458 minEp. 124

Relaxed and Stressed People & K9 Learning

What to listen for: “Don’t rush the training. Don’t trial too early. Because you’re short-changing that important part where you’re thoughtfully adding the right stress to the picture.” What’s the difference between “good” and “bad” stress in dog handling, and how do you incorporate the former into your training while minimizing the latter? Drawing from a groundbreaking study in Nature, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss how stress impacts our dog’s learning and beh...

Oct 29, 202459 minEp. 123

Recognizing and Dealing with Displacement Behavior

What to listen for: In this episode of K9 Detection Collaborative our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing explore the intricate world of displacement behaviors in dogs. They kick off by discussing recognizing these behaviors, which often arise from stress, frustration, or internal conflict in our canine companions. Our hosts share practical insights and anecdotes to help you identify and address these signals, ensuring a more harmonious training environment for both you and your ...

Oct 15, 202451 minEp. 122

Working Up Your Behavior Chain to Find Where it Went Wrong

What to listen for: "I found that the things I taught in higher arousal have held up better in higher arousal environments. The things done very slowly in lower arousal haven’t held up as well." Ever wondered why some detection dogs excel under pressure while others not so much? Join in exploring the dynamic world of canine detection training, guided by the unique experiences of our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing. They share their journeys through the challenges of maintain...

Oct 01, 202453 minEp. 121

Developing Training Plans without In-Person Mentors

What to listen for: Our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing offer their best tips for creating a training plan and measuring your progress without the help of an in-person mentor. Crystal sets the stage with a top ten list that includes strategies such as assessing your current skill level, setting long and short-term goals, varying your training environment, incorporating feedback loops, maintaining a balance of fun and stress, and networking with other handlers. As they kick t...

Sep 17, 202459 minEp. 120

Handling: When Do You, When Don't You

What to listen for: Odor detection handling mastery comes down to hitting that delicate balance between doing too much and too little for your dog–the ability to offer intimate guidance while nurturing confidence. Our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing offer their best tips and strategies for using your presence as a handler to nudge your dog towards their goals without smothering their autonomy. They draw lessons from a variety of training scenarios and odors, whether essentia...

Sep 03, 202450 minEp. 119

Encouraging Your Dog to Be Brave

What to listen for: Today our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing walk us through essential strategies for fostering independence and courage in dogs (and trainers!). They share their insights on avoiding the pitfalls of being an overprotective "helicopter handler" and how to allow your canine companion the freedom to explore their world and build self-assurance. The Dames of Detection explain stress inoculation and how providing dogs with coping mechanisms can build resilience....

Aug 20, 202452 minEp. 118

Distraction Camp 2024 Hot Wash!

What to listen for: “Every distraction is a possible reinforcement.” Could minor changes in your training strategy routine drastically improve your dog's performance? Join Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing as they uncover the secrets behind intentional handling, drawing from their recent experience at Distraction Camp. From hide setting and odor pool navigation to handling blank areas, our hosts open a treasure trove of insights to elevate your training game that you won’t get anywh...

Aug 06, 202451 minEp. 117

The Importance of Known Hides

What to listen for: “Even if you don't give them a cookie, you don't play, the dog has been reinforced. [It’s] just the way their brain works.” Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss how to use known hides to your advantage during training as compared to blind hides. They dive deep into the high stakes of detection work, such as why avoiding false alerts is crucial. Whether you're training for competitions or prepping your dog for operational tasks, understanding the i...

Jul 30, 202449 minEp. 116

Talking Detection Dogs with Adee Schoon Pt 2

What to listen for: “So I think dog training is almost 90% thinking and preparing, and 10% working with your dog.” Two of our three hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett sit down for part 2 with Adee Schoon, an expert in the detection field with over three decades of experience, to explore her diverse and groundbreaking projects. What happens when man's best friend becomes a vital ally in solving sexual crimes? Together with Amsterdam University and a local fertility clinic, Adee and team faced...

Jul 16, 202453 minEp. 115

Talking Detection Dogs with Adee Schoon Pt 1

What to listen for: In this episode of K9 Detection Collaborative, Our hosts Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett sit down with Adee Schoon, an expert in the detection field with over three decades of experience, to explore her diverse and groundbreaking projects. Prepare to be fascinated by Adee’s incredible journey, from her early days researching scent identification with the Dutch police to her current role as a leading consultant. Robin, Stacy, and Adee delve into her international collaboration...

Jun 18, 202459 minEp. 114

Troubleshooting Your Detection Chain

What to listen for: Today, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing address a common concern among handlers: what to do if your dog is having trouble finding the source of an odor during a training search. First thing’s first: “Your dog is just giving you information. It’s not personal. They don’t have it out for you!” Fixing this problem starts, our hosts say, by approaching trial searches from a place where you’re judging neither yourself nor your dog. Listen in and learn the steps you n...

Jun 04, 202448 minEp. 113

Functional Agility and All its Benefits

What to listen for: "Physical agility gives them some mental agility too, and so it's giving them that well-exercised brain, and then that's helping them make decisions, helping them solve problems." Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing break down the components and applications of functional agility. They offer a roadmap to training and maintaining your dog’s dexterity, conditioning, and proprioception–building a priceless level of trust, confidence, and adaptability ...

May 21, 202452 minEp. 112
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