this is K-12 Tech talk the podcast by K-12 tax for K-12 tax real conversations real arguments and real banter on trending K-12 technology topics and issues live from thesomethingcool.com Studios this is the K-12 Tech Talk podcast episode 114 I am Josh with me we're all back together actually tonight first time I've seen the inside of Chris's house in over a month I'm gonna try to hang out the whole time this is that was Chris and Mark hello hey Mark so it's been another week it seems like
these weeks are flying by like crazy thankfully Jeremy has stocked the green room again with uh spring beverages a nice uh light Fresca this evening um not looking I didn't see any food so I don't know what's up with that Jeremy uh but Jeremy and the cooligans at somethingcool.com can help you with any number of issues they sell Hardware they sell software they can do some cyber training for your staff they can do fishing Services uh what else what am I missing do they like selling Ruckus oh
they got they got cloud backup stuff as well oh that's right and Jeremy did this is real talk he said tell Josh to quit badmouth in like sonic wall and Lenovo I haven't no okay I'm in badmouth's time to call in a while now Lenovo they they're they're on the top of nope hey all right uh okay so what's Jeremy's email address Jeremy at somethingcool.com shoot Jeremy an email and tell him that we sent you and that you like Lenovo that you like sonic wall yes it's all a bit right it's
it's all just a bit um no really I did have someone ask does something cool really send you guys stuff I had somebody ask me that this weekend yeah yes yes they do yeah it's all true ghost energy drinks Warheads Warhead sour watermelon that's what I'm drinking lime Fresca um so what what's been up guys it's it's been a busy week it's testing season it's spring spring is in the air mark you just said it was 85 in your town today yeah really nice weather went for
a walk today I thought about some things [Laughter] might be in midlife crisis um yeah so are you guys Mark when do you guys do do you guys do spring assessment when is your assessment time frame where you live we are in the middle of our of our assessment window yeah I was at a school the other day uh and that they we had a school I was like we're gonna we're gonna test every kid today for the first day I was like well this is this this sounds like a recipe for disaster
but it was good it was very smooth you guys test on Chromebooks right and then yeah yep yeah we do too since we really started pushing one to one heavy about five years ago it's it's been really interesting to watch how my first couple years in my district the spring assessment window and those buildings they only had one cart per grade level so they had to share it so the testing window we took advantage of the entire like month and a half two month long testing window where now every every
classroom has a cart and every kid has a device available to them almost any time during the day so they can bang out that testing window in like a week and a half now it's uh it's pretty wild how that happens um Chris any any thoughts on Spring assessments we just started this week as well we typically do luck out where they pick one or two classrooms in small class sizes like 10 or less kids uh we did happen to pick uh so we use what is it Josh DRC yeah uh the day that DRC was down this week
yep was our very first day of trying to test I think there were a lot of people in that boat and I think that's probably what I think that happens every year every year the start of the window DRC crashes because everyone tries to get in because I we we we try to do like we tell the buildings to do the pre-check stuff that you can do to check you know screen resolution blah blah blah uh I tell them that like two months in advance and do a reminder email like
hey make sure you check this there's a building Tech that can help fix those things they're looking for the they do that check and they're looking for the green check marks the whole bit so they were feeling pretty good uh and then that building in particular called because they're freaking out and they're like we checked these because that's always my first hey did you check that Chromebook is it getting hungry check marks that's the easy thing to tell a teacher
um and it's always the resolution it's always the kids that have messed with the resolution it's always I agree um you guys test early in the window we so Chris and I it's no secret Chris and I are in the same state um are we we will not start testing I think for another week and a half so we we ride that window till the bitter and it kind of freaks me out we've had this discussion before where you hear you hear these horror stories where like a squirrel or a groundhog
chews through a a fiber line and the district loses internet for three days that that's my fear is like we're waiting until The Bitter End of the testing window and like they have to be turned in on Tuesday and we're testing on Monday my fear is that there's going to be a badger eat through a fiber line and and we're not gonna be able to a wild boar oh you wild in an outbreak of an alpaca horde goes running down the street you know would it pick your favorite animal
uh well in our neck of woods it's the construction vehicles that come out of hibernation this time of year and they all start digging they'll start digging yeah people finders the giant caterpillars and backhoes and they all come out stretch their buckets and then they just start digging what did you say bucket bucket bucket and then they start digging and then sometimes they find food and sometimes they find Fiber lines um and so that's happened to us a couple
times already sucks man yeah we've had that happen more than more than once yeah oh that was yeah those had a lot of fun conversations can I say isp's name sure sure yeah whatever had a issue with an ISP this week I I I'll I'll omit the name you have the worst problems with your isps uh we had we had a deal there was some weird routing things going on we could we could get to this Gateway this is kind of school related kind of not whatever doesn't really matter
it doesn't really matter I could ping this Gateway but couldn't actually reach it it was really weird and if you were like with if you were in-house it was okay but externally you're on another provider not working long story short uh we are from Josh Schneider from Missouri uh abbreviation is Mo spelled am I you know uh so Spectra or I'm not saying the name I forgot anyways they thought I was in Michigan so they did a bunch of routing junk uh we were going Michigan trying to I don't
even know what they were doing on the back end how does that even happen so the the local uh Tech when he came he called it in and he was like he put the phone and he was like they just asked me how the weather was in Michigan I'm pretty sure I have an idea about what's going on here oh my gosh how how is that I don't know and it took it took a little while still from the because they have like here's the five things we're gonna troubleshoot before we're really gonna dig into it
right right uh so they're testing the line and testing the speed and and whatever five different tests before they allowed him to get to the and this is him talking to him you know to his employer uh before they would let him speak and say like hey I think I think we got some wrong State stuff going on he told me he's like I'm have to I'm going to do all this stupid stuff before they're gonna let me uh express my opinion but how's kind of fun you know you know who that wouldn't happen to
because they're in they're into who is that they do audits they'll audit your G your Google workspace absolute yes absolute a response for the K-12 Tech Talk podcast you looked really confused there for a minute I was first I'm still learning about absolute as are you as are we as are the listeners talking about the wrong vendor I just didn't know are we who are we talking about uh they want me to talk about how they can help you protect against ransomware uh we think of ransomware we we don't
think about this but typically a lot of people think about ransomware in business sector land it's absolutely hitting in K-12 now uh the Bad actors they're going after us now in K-12 it's been that way for a while uh absolute they have a unique ransomware response product uh they can help you with your security trolls to put into place um and I'm going to put a link in the podcast description about the ransomware response uh that absolute can help you with and we're about we're like three
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sales rep oh yeah right people remember it like I'm willing to remember Oliver's name because of his email address yes it was absolute a proud sponsor the K-12 Tech Talk podcast which by the way hit 50 000 downloads this week yeah no claps nothing yay um yes 50 000 downloads that's awesome speaking of okay a couple comments while you were talking I I have things going in and out of my head uh if you're paying attention off Chris you said you made you use the phrase if you're paying
attention if you're paying attention to these episodes count the number of times that Chris says the word unpack or unpacking you know I feel did you guys have another text like were you guys texting about me or talking about me behind my back no no not this week did you crack that joke before we started this and then I said it and then you're talking about it again that's what makes me think that you've talked about we have not talked behind your back no this is all organic
um so yeah just count and email us or tweet this how many times he says unpacker unpacking so uh you had mentioned ransomware and what absolute can do something that came up on K-12 Tech Pro this week was um oh K12 Tech Pro somebody yes the vetted Community for K-12 technicians and K-12 it directors about um you know it like a forum a discussion forum and there's different water cooled posting and somebody I don't remember the name of the person that posted this
but they are getting ready to do a tabletop exercise with their school and some leadership in their school on a ransomware incident and um I I felt like it was a good idea to unpack that um but my the point of this is sizza if if you don't know uh Services of the Cyber um they have several tabletops pre-built for all of the critical infrastructure um everything from a third party vendor event to local government event a federal civilian executive branch DDOS attack one of the things they have
excuse me one of the things they have is a K-12 schools uh situation manual a ctep such situation manual and this walks you through a ransomware incident in a K-12 environment it has several different modules to it and you kind of Step through it like a story line and uh this is different than the one that I took part in over a year ago and they have definitely stepped their game up they have definitely improved this tabletop exercise I feel like it's definitely a conversation or a scenario
that you could walk through um with almost any leadership or any employee in the district because you know Chris we were talking about the show or before the show about how you know some of the hard discussions are going to be okay how long can you live without a financial system how long can you live without charging for lunch real time those are kind of the questions that this provides you to ask and then develop a priority for systems to be brought back up yeah because like that
particular one that they have posted I forget the actual question but it's like it it wants the room to have a conversation about all the different systems and then really dig into it like at what point like let's talk about a room at what point would you say High School would you say Elementary would you say safety director would you say admin uh that we don't have school uh how many days could we go without with our Cooks have to do everything by hand as far as who's eating breakfast and
who's eating lunch uh and then like that Financial system conversation uh hey sis admin and tech department if if our financial system was hit how many days would it take you to get a spec up and running and he says two but then you're looking over at the financial people and they're like oh no we can only be down for a day well we need to have a conversation about this right now because we have our we have the ability to promise you or to strive for two days if
you're saying one day and and okay let's talk about this which side's winning here or what's the compromise do we need to spend more money on backups for that particular system or are we just going to settle we need to talk about what if it's three days what if it's four days uh to actually have those conversations uh and Dancer about them and and that particular one gave like I forget it gets in like it's like day one there's like an email from the FBI blah blah and that's kind of the point
of the blah blah blah even is okay counselor that came to this table top exercise if you get an email about FBI that talks about ransomware do you think that pertains to you at all or do you just write that thing off okay you say you write that thing off what about you principle when you see an email like that does that affect you at all do you think about that okay day one you guys think that's Tech Department's problem and then it's not until it was like it's
like day nine like an employee gets fired and again you're supposed to kind of think through the room do we care about as far as a cyber security threat goes if an employee gets fired like what precautions do we have with that and then it really hits uh gets bad about day 40 or whatever or a ransomware attack is introduced and you're supposed to unpack that so not just for Tech departments to go through the scenario but for everyone too and I think go ahead Mark I'm sorry
nope I was just making the motion that he just said unpack oh I did yep I I think it definitely helps um the non-technical people in your District if you invite you know a cross-platformer across um departmental type event um it helps those non-technical people kind of get a glimpse into the amount of noise that we see on a daily basis from alerts from MSI sex is a FBI um and okay how do you how do you parse out how do you pull out the one or two that oh I really need to pay attention to this
one um and then you know like in in this in this tabletop it's something kind of out of left field that you haven't been alerted to that ends up happening so you know you you have this constant and and they're all valid emails are all valid alerts but which ones do you take more seriously than others and I think that's a good um those people kind of need to see that you know I I'm trying to get better but I struggle with tabletops a little bit because you're kind of supposed to like
use your imagination and like get into it yeah and I have a hard time like the one that you host to Josh yeah it was great but I just like listening to other people um I just have a hard time like I don't know like Josh Josh was like he was like fed feelings of being under attack when he's going through the exercise so that's every day man if you role play like Dungeons and Dungeons and dragon Style one person is the dungeon master I'm like oh ransomware well that that uh back doors and reaches
you will call and do stuff like that yeah nice yeah so back if if you're you've locked the ransomware if you don't know what backdoors and breeches is it is roll the dice to see what the Bitcoin amount will be it's it's from uh Black Hills information security and they have made a card game that is uh all uh not all-encompassing but several different threat vectors uh several uh gotchas as as the event goes on it and you loot you do legitimately um roll dice to see how you figure
things out and how you get Beyond certain steps and certain certain events that are taking place they've got a really good YouTube video on how to play it and they their office kind of steps through playing the game and it's it's pretty entertaining um that's from Black Hills information security they are super cool they offer a lot of training this is not they're not paying us to say any of this actually um they offer a lot of training man um they're super they are brilliant people
um they they um I bought I bought a couple T-shirts from them so um yeah check them out back doors and breeches if choose character High School secretary what kind of armor does the high school secretary have I don't know maintenance director hit points plus four um so Chris you said we had yes we had some uh man we could spend an hour just drawing up the characters I know I'm holding back um Chris you said we had some listener emails why don't you we did so listener Aaron
uh said and this has been a a little while ago and I don't think I was around for this episode uh but you guys unpacked uh about the Chrome the net export exploit uh you guys talked about that on an episode um and he spent some time messing with that unpacking it I'm gonna keep saying it uh found a website where you can upload and and figure out some things uh so he was giving us a thank you for that information but also to pass along that it's a thousand percent legit uh if that
is a real life exploit happening yeah and remind me what what that was that boy what was that that was something with getting into a chrome URL or a Chrome OS URL exporting a text file and then going to a website that kind of unhashed uh the text string that was in that text file and it came back with the SSID passphrase if I'm remembering right um and yeah the afternoon that we found it I think it was a post on Reddit or K12 Tech Pro one of the two because they're so they're so competing there
um one of my guys uh saw it and he's like uh yeah I just did this and this is legit like this really does work so um it is definitely a threat yeah and that's something that you can block you can block that URL you can go in the Google admin and do the URL blocking on that which probably should have already had happened right yeah but you know that gets back into that thing of Google releasing settings that I feel like they could do a much better job of alert alerting admins to um
and you look again like last week that wireless setting that we changed I didn't know that existed um so I don't know that you can really blame anyone for having not having that blocked I think I can tell a funny uh student Chromebook story really quick I think this is yeah yeah yeah I can I can unpack this real quick had a had a kid um Chromebook having an issue I think it was with his screen touch screen or something not working brings the Chromebook down uh I spend just a little
bit I'm actually the one that messes with it do a little bit of diagnostic stuff it's absolutely the screen so we're gonna issue him a new Chromebook uh so that's what's gonna happen right so check his stuff out it's going to go to the library they're going to issue him a new Chromebook he comes back later because he saved a bunch of stuff to his like the local downloads folder on the Chromebook which is a bummer because that stuff doesn't transfer with you right and I can tell he's devastated
and usually when this happens the guys kind of look at me they want because our at our I'm located at the high school and we have like a like a half door and we want to be available uh to the teachers to the kids uh but when when stuff like this is happening the guys kind of look at me because I'm going to be the villain that says your downloads are gone uh so I'm saying it and I still I'm like hey man yeah anything really important to you you should save to your Google
Drive don't save it locally through your downloads folder We're not gonna be able to get that back for people to walk because we've already tried to wipe that Chromebook and moved on with life and stuff he's devastated I can tell uh he does a quick hand movement um and I didn't notice this my technician noticed this in the middle of us talking uh and then he's like well my chromebook's doing this and he had he had done the keys to make it try to refresh like to make it have
like a Chrome OS error you know like ready to be wiped uh so my technician noticed that he so what he was trying to do was like he was trying to get his Chromebook back yeah uh very smart but then we just reset it and told him he's good to go but he was trying he was trying good good story great story yeah uh so what's our name what's our next listener email oh you bring me down and bring me back up another listener email from Mike uh talking about the three-year episode I
don't think I was around for this one either I think it was it was uh intern it was Eric the intern I mean let's let's face it you probably we could consider you part-time for the last two months three months I don't know what's been going on anyway he said somehow I hadn't heard your podcast until fairly recently and I'm really enjoying it a lot so far your episode about about it being three years since everything closed down uh really resonated with me as it marked a huge
moment in my life my wife and I had welcomed our first child into the world shortly after the lockdown and then he just goes on to unpack just how crazy uh it was during that time he told us things for uh our work and to keep it up but an interesting listening to that episode that you guys did I don't know if that's is that trauma that we have with that time or just these memories hit really hard we can instantly like think back about what life was like I think during that time trauma yeah I was
thinking about talking about Google admin stuff I got all kinds of ous in there I need to clean up that was like on the Fly virtual learning things we were doing that I need to go back and do cleanup of my tech stuff still I remember spin up a Google site for our virtual Learners in a day my department was like what are you doing building the website and I was like I had to do it guys and our final listener email which will I think uh interesting yes so listener h
we'll go with that I am proposing to our Administration that we shut off our public facing CIS in the late evenings and weekends to help protect against possible cyber attacks older Administration doesn't understand and they want to keep things running and that means that people of course at 1am will have access what are your thoughts on something like this um I would really like to power these things off uh to have the bad guys have some disadvantage Mark uh yeah I had it I hadn't thought
about that uh and I think my gut reaction to that was like well that just seems a little maybe unnecessary like why bother doing that I mean and I guess it all depends on how you're going to do it when you say powering off that just seems like it's a recipe for disaster when you have to power things back on the morning um but you know the more they think about it you know we're we're right now planning for spring break and we're going through kind of buttoning down the
hatches and looking for you know as we start to go and and go migrate away from our systems for the next week and we have less eyes looking at things we're battening down the hatches and starting to figure out what are the things we need to clean up um so it does kind of make sense like taking that on a smaller level you know you're not in your student information system in the middle of the night you don't have a legitimate business need to be there um so I kind of see that I I do see the
value in saying there's no need for us to have a system up and active in the middle tonight when all of us are asleep why not take it offline um to reduce risk can I take a Counterpoint to that you can yeah so Mark you're dumb um I know I know yeah no the only the only concern that I would have with that would be I know we have teachers that grade things later in the evening um so I think finding that time that you either have a firewall rule that kicks in and disables external access or you
have a scheduled task that shuts the box down I think you're gonna have to try and find that sweet spot you know is it is it 11 o'clock at night is it midnight is it 1am and then when does it come back on because I know when I pull into the office at 6 50 in the morning there's teachers that have beat me there so yeah at what time do you do you bring that stuff back up I I understand the idea of it but I almost wonder if you're not you're not bringing more headache onto
um we a couple years ago we took the step of creating a scheduled task that shut down machines on Friday nights and I just did it because it no one reboots their machines like I know for a fact if if we don't do this there's going to be machines in my district that have been up for 174 days since the first day of school so but some people had the idea well you know if they're powered off they can't be hit well yeah that that's true but that's not that's not the big push while
I was why I was doing that um I think there is validity to the statement I just think it would be a it would be a tough conversation yeah no I I'm not I'm kind of indifferent on this one I mean I think we're we're right now looking at you know summer vacation as you start to get to summer vacation one of the big things that you need to do to prepare for summer vacation you know that's when if you look at some of these big attacks La was a great example where they were hit at 8
pm on the Friday night before Labor Day weekend and you start to look at other districts getting hit they're getting hit on Thursday nights Friday nights before Easter weekend before spring break so I do think that there is is validity in saying when we don't need a system um we know that our attackers are going to hit us when we're down when we're not looking and they know when we're asleep um I don't know I mean really on how you do that how you implement that I think
really needs to be cared for otherwise you're going to make a whole lot more work for yourself if it does not come back automatically and you got to imagine there's always going to be somebody that wakes up before you oh yeah and is going to go to the sis so if you don't have it set where you can have that on at a reasonable hour and I honestly I think 5 a.m would be the latest I'd have it come back on um at least in my district I know we have people uh at work um shortly after five
yeah and you have to do it in a way that does not depend on you otherwise you're you're going to kill yourself when people start knocking on your door in the middle or in the early morning so you guys um like you're you're like your homes do you leave your front doors unlocked no no no do you ever leave your front doors open overnight I mean I thought the answer to the first question would solve that it's locked but it's a long Mark yeah yeah no we lock our doors and we just leave them wide open
um no I grew up in an area where we never never locked the door once we go on vacation and never lock the door yeah but where I am now I gotta lock it um yeah so just quickly another thought that comes in my head is a a parent that works Night Shift that wants to check their students grades you know I I think there would be a whole lot of use cases that you're gonna we'll end up generating a call if you try to do that I would like if listener H ended up doing this
I would like to hear back he's not gonna you called him you called Mark dumb therefore you called listener H Dom I was just being I was trying to have a debate with Mark uh yeah and I was agreeing with h and I got called dumb man it wasn't even my idea uh I would like to hear back that if the if H did implement this how has it gone how how did people take it um have parents have have you know members of the community said anything about it um it would be an interesting case study
I think and I mean maybe we're going to get to the point where in cyber insurance so listener h i was slow to uh reply to him on the email so I was just I was like I think he emailed back oh gosh and he did um he said if you want some feedback this wasn't planned this is great he said I actually did the cyst shutdown uh as a test weekends only at first starting Friday night I opened it to every night without saying anything to anyone I moved all other servers to this
policy basically in the middle of the next month uh to date I have had one PE teacher on a Friday night who was at home watching a movie eating pizza and the side of the hop on and enter in his grades off hours I've had one student ask about getting into his grades from home after hours uh both cases they were uh isolated incidences and no one else asked or complained uh once I mentioned the hours of operation uh both have been satisfied and moved on both of those
that that teacher and that student he said I think I'm gonna leave it as it is for right now uh it was really not a big deal and honestly there might be two or three people that actually access it over hours you know yeah well okay so if not shutting the system down what else can you do to prepare for that time when you're you're away what are you going to do over a long weekend or before spring break because everybody's going on spring break or they just came back from spring break so
what are those things that you can do to prepare for that that unattended time period you know it not a server thing but desktops you could you could ask teachers to shut your their machines down Mark like you've said kind of kill off any non-critical systems that are tapping the web for anything put in a rule that says you know these the print server can't get out of the web or you know but again how much work are you going to go to on the front side to just come back a week later and undo it
I I don't know um is it worthwhile probably is it going to protect you yeah I don't know yeah I think it yeah I think you're on something there too I think it could really depend on like okay the three of us considering this if if we then went to our our Tech departments and we talked through how we would accomplish this if it's kind of easy to accomplish okay sure let's do it that's that's easy fruit if it's gonna be hard let's leave that one up on the tree like whatever easy fruit let's pick
something else yeah here's here's what I would do before you get to a long weekend rather than shutting the sis down or shutting down a system down go through the admin accounts go through this this admin accounts see if you've got any gray hairs that need to be trimmed off um if you've got somebody that only needs you know district-wide or or a high level access on occasion maybe you suspend their account or remove that access for the long weekend I mean that's obviously that's a lot more
manual work inside every procedure that shuts the system down but I would rather you know start to trim down the the Stray or Dorman accounts that's a more likely thing that's going to happen is a dormant account is going to be taken over and use when you're not looking um I you know I refer to them as sleeper accounts if I'm if I'm a threat actor I'm gonna go in I'm gonna set us a sleeper account in in place and then um that's what the account is that I'm going to use that night so rather than
shut the system down I would say your long weekends your Spring Breaks that's your chance to kind of give yourself a little bit of a trim and and and go through your assist admin accounts your high level domain admins and I think too most most next-gen firewalls have schedule based or that I think you could you could create a like we do this with wireless we shut down our guest Network at four o'clock in the evening and it doesn't come back on until seven o'clock the next morning
that's easy to do with Aruba Wireless I think you could do the same thing with a Florida gate firewall and do a time-based rule that would kill external access for several of your servers or even all of your servers you know name Ade print files you know whatever um speaking of Florida gate in Fortinet Chris Fortinet podcast at fortinet.com email them let them know that you heard about them from us you can even just email them and say hi and if you're looking for a firewall if you're looking
for some EDR if you're looking for whatever border has a ton of products we we know that four to everything so email fortinetpodcast fortinet.com order everything let's talk about New Hampshire we're going to New Hampshire soon the New Hampshire CTO Clinic all three of us going to be there in person Mark do you want to talk about the keynote that we get to do it is a retrospect some of the Lessons Learned uh so it's going to be a really exciting look back at what are the
challenges that we had to go through during cobit and what are the things that have changed our jobs and and the way we do things but also how do we use those to think about the future we've got new technologies coming up on on us really quickly like Ai and uh how do we make sure that AI does not take over us before we get a chance to actually understand what it's going to do and how it's going to change our districts so that'll be a little bit of fun we need the help of seats right
um that's in New Hampshire but anyone up in New England can attend yeah it's gonna be fun come on up it's going to be Mark said it's going to be exciting so bring your popcorn um and Mark would know because he's the one writing the Keynote yes uh I don't think there is AI networking equipment yet but I think who will develop it first will be extreme networks don't you think Chris yeah D mayor to extremnetworks.com hit that guy up uh and also talking about K-12 Tech
Pro there's a new article from Eric the intern on there about all the free training if your e-rate season is coming to a close maybe you're starting to get your new networking gear in extreme networks is one of the ones listed that they give free training so if you got new switches and you're not sure how to config them you can go to K12 Tech Pro click on that free articles article free articles article free tools article uh and extreme networks the link to
their free training is listed there and email D mayor extremnetworks.com alrighty and we appreciate them being on um it's eval season do you guys so we've had to do or I had to do evals for my uh two employees you guys I know you guys get reviewed and evals from whoever you're whoever um I'm assuming you do evals I do uh I usually do one formal one a year and then one I call informal it's more just laid back um both have the same like the sheet that I give is the same yeah but I always say
one doesn't really count it's just more making sure that uh it's it's really a lot of most of the time uh it's my chance to communicate well that I think they're doing a good job and to say some of those things that I don't say daily or even weekly to them or maybe sometimes monthly to them it's a good check on that it's even a good time just to talk about projects going on and uh cross training opportunities sometimes I like to unpack that but yeah twice a year basically yeah unpack I'm
gonna work on that guys I'm gonna work on that and I think it's a good chance to you know rather than waiting till the end of the year one one per year um you can address things a little sooner if something needs to be addressed you can address it halfway through a changer so yeah definitely um think about be doing your evals for your Tech staff revision Data Solutions across sponsorical Tech Talk podcast reach out to Ryan rothkoff a provision data Solution that's all I got bro all right
that's all I'm gonna unpack tonight Mark anything else I got nothing now yeah nothing so we meet we got one more time and then we're gonna be in person is that what's going on what's the oh we got two or three more times oh yeah we got two more times and then that final week I will be going to Dallas for vex robotics competition with my middle schoolers we're gonna kick butt on the world stage and then I'm leaving from Dallas to meet Mark at an airport in Boston been working on that
and then Josh you're gonna show up like an hour after me yep Mark are we just gonna sit on a bench like in the airport no I'm gonna I'm gonna take you like a like it's a place I'm gonna take you in an hour oh yeah I want to be dead before you get there Josh the airport's right in the middle of town so like it's gonna pop out live it up and then come back and get Josh could you bring me to Mark Wahlberg's childhood home yeah we could do that we can do that I'm
a big fan of him and also the New Kids on the Block Joey McIntyre's house maybe you know do you know where that's at where where is this going we have them all in our assists it's kind of interesting do you really yeah yeah Josh can you name one New Kids on the Block song uh um he probably does they probably have to sing him instead of the national anthem there they sing new um oh the right stuff there we go oh yeah Mark can you sing that really quick I if I did I might like screw up and do
the Weird Al version what was the other one or maybe that was that one oh yeah that was uh uh oh um all right we will I guess we'll see you next week thanks for listening first time was the best time second time you got the Rockstar