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Episode 112 - Chris is Finally Back!

Mar 31, 202350 minEp. 116
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Chris is back after a suspension and traveling to the CoSN conference. He recaps some of the discussion and overall trending topics from the CoSN conference. He also discusses the fact that he did not appreciate Eric the Intern's love for walking everywhere in Austin (and other Eric antics).

Josh talks about the 3CX phone system vulnerability that was published 3/29/2023 by CrowdStrike and Red Canary. Hint - If you have a 3CX phone system, you will want to look this issue up and mitigate it right away.

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hey can you turn that down we're recording Jackson don't cuss [Music] the podcast by K-12 tax for K-12 tax real conversations real arguments and real banter on trending K-12 technology topics and issues [Music] live from the somethingcool.com studios this is the K-12 Tech Talk podcast I believe it is episode

112. The Gang is back together I am Josh with me part-time is Chris say hi Chris hello and with me more times than not is Mark hey Mark hello hi so it has been several weeks since we've been back together right guys Chris is a hot minute your off suspension did you I guess you had your meeting with Sue yeah and Sue gave me that cake oh that's right yeah I apologized uh both verbally but also via a letter oh yeah chat GPT that's probably in your permanent file now

um have you talked to Jeremy lately because he sent over some information about a new uh system that they are selling what what is that they have X360 Cloud Solutions storage stuff going on they can back up your Google workspace I know this because he spammed me today with an ad I got it too thanks Jeremy so you can email sales at somethingcool.com or Jeremy at somethingcool.com to learn all about their Cloud solution to back up your Google workspace yes yeah that's an interesting thought

process um it has been a busy week we we are at Threat Level three for tornadoes tornadoes damaging winds and tornadoes tomorrow um there's a buzz going around that schools are canceling school half day it's on the threat of tornado so I don't remember that ever happening before um what is kind of going on in the world of K-12 Tech Guys Mark has disappeared he's I think Mark left Chris what's been going on anything fun and exciting I uh I mean I'm I'm still recovering

from the coast and trip with Eric uh uh and I mean I don't know that I ever want to go on a trip with Eric again oh he's a lot um he's a good guy he he he he is a great guy and I I couldn't keep up with him well so he if you ever see him at the Midwest Tech talk conferences he's literally like running all the time or he's fast walking yes and I always thought oh that's Eric at conferences because you know we're organizing them and he's like a main point of contact when it's

like the day of stuff right he's hustling surge bars and yeah whatever no that's just how he walks like he he walks with purpose even if it's for for like hey hey bro you just got up like you're just walking to the kitchen and I I don't do that and like we land we and then he like one of his big things was like he and I I mean we kind of talked about this but he likes to walk so he's like hey I think I'm gonna go out and find a trail cool uh I like to use vehicles

uh to get the places but we can we can take a trail are we are we advertising for a new intern now we need to be uh so I we did that I walked with him one of the days it was raining oh man and then like we're walking and then he'd be like oh step aside that's because there's people riding bikes and running like I don't I don't hang out where people ride bikes and run Eric and that's how we would go around and then he does this thing and I think you you're I think you would be like this

Josh he he has airport anxiety oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and I completely think you would be like this yes Eric if you're listening to this I'm being absolutely honest this is me telling like I'm I'm not holding back anything the airport he's like I only get anxiety going to the checkpoints he was he was anxious the whole time like it wouldn't matter what we're and he'd be like oh no that's this line it's this line it's this Eric just it's not a big deal bro and like you know those checkpoints it's

as whatever is it's gonna be you set your pace you're you're taking your rings off and your belt off whatever and Eric's like deciding in the morning what he's going to wear basically yeah absolutely decide what type of shoes I'm wearing that morning so I can take them off easily in the checkpoint Eric and I are cut from the same cloth so we did that and then he does this thing where like we're going out to dinner and he's like hey I'll get this and we can share it

Eric I don't want to share with you I'm almost 40 years old I got a wife and three kids you think I want to share a taco with you right now sharing he did that to me like three times you think I want to share chalupa with you bro it was fine it was a good trip laughs I have to say Eric and I and our wives had dinner I guess two nights before you all or the night before you guys left for Austin we went on a ghost hunt um we had a dinner at a very nice restaurant in Jefferson City and uh went

on a ghost hunt at the State Penitentiary and I had none of this experience that you're speaking of with Aaron and he told some stories about you though no whatever like you're really into that ghost stuff it was fun it was a blast if you're in Missouri or you come to Missouri I highly recommend the tour at the Jefferson City State Penitentiary I I'm convinced that I never want to fly with you and Eric combined I think Mark can Mark and I can figure it out but I don't know if if I had to take a

trip with you with Josh and Eric I'm so excited to pick the two of you up at the airport I I text you and I said when I fly I look around me at the people around me and know who I'm going to be on the cover Magazine with if the plane goes down like that's how my brain works I don't know I think I need to commit right now to having a recording device in the car when I picked the two of you up for the airport exactly after we land it's fine Landing is the worst part for me I know

but like I wanna I wanna hear what you guys have to say about each other well Chris we are we will not be on the same plane because he is from Dallas he we won't we won't be riding together I will be on I will be on the K-12 Tech talk uh private jet um so anyways Kosten was good that's the long story short yeah so you guys talked to all sorts of cool people um Keith and Marlo and all of those awesome folks that were willing to sit down with you and Eric and have a

conversation about current trends in K-12 if you have not listened to those episodes um episode 111 part one and two are all of those um episodes from coast and Tom Ryan makes an appearance I'd recommend skipping that interview yeah he had some kind of he's great man not a harsh words about Mark but like what didn't he say he wanted to punch you in the throat or something like yeah yeah yeah and I was like my mom listens to this once in a while sure was willing to sit down for a little bit

um let's see who else did you guys talk to Yeah Yeah from San Antonio Marlo Gaddis super nice I like Marlo's interview the best honestly I will say I mean I know I know Tom was pretty brutal to me but you have you interviewed all my favorite people in the world oh I have a Tom shariar like really and Keith like just great people I think more highly of you based upon the people that know you wow is that that was right yeah that was that was nice and they're they're

incredibly impressive people uh Eva just started as CIO and she's already just Making Waves across country Marlo has been CIO she's retiring this spring and she has made waves for for years so uh just two amazing people so very cool congrats Chris yep it's a good time it's great times and did you name drop Mark when you were talking to Keith like ahead of time like to set him up for the interview I thought that would be a negative oh okay I'm all right I want to

drop I mean I dropped my Mark's name at dinner tonight with my uncle from Michigan who doesn't know who Mark is so we go way back um so yeah Kosen it sounded like you guys had a really really good time and hopefully hopefully Keith if you're listening um we will be invited to Kosen in Miami next spring uh so if you were not on Reddit yesterday or if you do not get sizza alerts or MSI SEC alerts and you have a 3cx phone system um you need to go look up uh go go do some Googling about the 3cx

vulnerability with their soft phone app on desk Windows computers uh there is a major vulnerability it's um kind of it's been Making Waves I think crowdstrike and Huntress Labs broke the news yesterday I follow Huntress labs and uh Katie Nichols from Red Canary on Twitter and that's how I saw it I think Miss Nichols shared it uh the the Reddit link from crowdstrike and uh it's a pretty serious vulnerability uh so if you run a 3cx phone system you definitely want to check this out and

take precautions Chris you don't run 3cx right but we we do know uh several schools that run 3cx in our area so uh they were uh they were hopping on it yesterday when it when the news broke on that um excuse me let's see what else so Mark do you you had an agenda item about the co-son article about partnering with social media um and how do you handle imposters yeah so there was an article um it was um from actually online publication but it was based off of a

presentation at kosin about social media uh and it sparked a little bit of a conversation internally for us um talking about the the heart of the article is really uh or the heart of the conversation was about school districts need to be able to partnership create Partnerships with social media companies because social media is creating quite a bit of a challenge uh for schools and we really it's kind of like throwing fishing or throwing uh uh What's the phrase throwing a message out

and just do a black hole um when you try to get in touch with a social media company so curious how you guys handle social media incidents in your District what are some things that you do from a technology perspective uh and have you ever had any success with working directly with social media companies boy that's a good one I can't say that we have had an incident where we've had to contact a social media company for assistance but I do know of a neighboring District that had to do that

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um and the only way they got the attention of the social media company was to have a letter or a fax sent from the local police department on Police Department letterhead to a special number and that was the only way they got traction with the social media entity at that time uh thankfully we and and this was actually a threat directed at a teacher if I remember right um so yeah we thankfully we haven't had to deal with that but I do know it is a giant pain in the rear if it if it comes

to that because they they don't like talking um to individuals or talking individuals or is the wrong phrase but I guess making themselves available to remedy Solutions like that um they don't like doing that Chris anything from you just I mean and we probably all do this but you know we we block Social Media stuff within the school district right and on our on our devices that leave and go home so we at least always tend to know that that's being okay uh the hope there would be and I've talked

to schools that try to say that that can be okay that you have Twitter opened up because of the resources that can be there in the live news updates and blah blah blah and that kind of banter But ultimately you're at least keeping your kids safe and in that environment of where you're protecting them there we've had kids they'll try we've not had like the threat to serious stuff like that but we've had the kids that do the bullying stuff or do the I'm acting like I'm a principal and I'm

going to post these things um completely agree that there's not like the number that you just usually call and that's not even worthy of a phone call I would say like that's you're allowed to do that we've gone through where you're clicking like to report like hey this is a fake account or whatever we've had one where that was enough uh we had a basically a couple of us clicked and reported that and that page got taken down yeah um so you can kind of try to go that

route uh we've had it before where I had to do the investigative work we knew some stuff was floating around we don't think what's taking place at school but I would jump into like Google Vault to search or that page or you know are kids talking about it via email or kids talking about it via chat uh so we could try to nip it that way um that investigative kind of research uh other than those things I'm not thinking of anything else yeah it's hard we've the only time we've ever had things

taken down is when we reach out to police because of a you know an obvious crime or you know threat of violence has been posted but even then I don't know if it's the police that got taken down or it was just you know enough Community reports and the social media companies took them down on their own um but it it's hard and we've had a lot of you know borderline incidents right when when I say borderline I mean it's not quite against their terms of service or

their student student interaction and you can't quite prove that somebody is under the age of 13 you know on the social media Services terms of service um and it's frustrating and you just kind of hit report and you you hope it goes somewhere but very very very little interaction if not none with with the social media companies um and even when you do report something like I've had some situations I'm like this is horrific of what these students have posted and and I'll get a reply

back from the company like no your your claim has been rejected and it's like you don't know how much pain and frustration your platform is causing a school a classroom and they just there's no interaction so it's really really frustrating and like you Chris most of it is blocked within schools but that doesn't mean that the things that happen outside of school don't get brought in I can think about we even had one I think it was Snapchat so our school district has a name you

know like north south east west central like one of those generic kind of names and it's in in its name and there was this snap going around that was a repeated someone was taking screenshot and screenshot shot and sending it and sending it so a school with our name from afar started it had some kind of weapon thing in it and it made its way all the way to Missouri with our school name in it not us yeah uh but I mean the community was oh my gosh this is this is the the

threat that's being presented to us yeah and again if if we're trying to report it and do those limited things that we can do and you know you can send out your own communication uh but man if there was just an easier thing to go about stopping that uh because three of us I mean we we've done all the all the work to prove that this is not valid or or that it is valid whichever way you want you want to look at it but there's no work to go with it yeah besides you you're well and that's

always that funny thing too how will you get the word out via social media which is the thing that you're trying to tell kids tonight like right mess with like you're kind of this double-edged sword of a thing or whatever whatever you want to say yeah no I don't I don't know what the solution is I I don't think that social media companies have any interest in having a liaison and taking on some ownership for this I don't I don't see Facebook and Instagram and

uh Twitter and snap I don't in Tick Tock especially they're they're not going to have a liaison to your school district and so it it's really really frustrating um and I hate to say that you're kind of on your own when there's a social media issue but right now K-12 districts really are on their own if an incident does not rise to criminal activity yeah and I you know it's it's interesting I think that's where um like we're my district is lucky enough to have a PR person and I think

that's where some of those relationships that those PR people like because there's National entities and I know cousin has worked with Inspira the I don't know what the acronym means but it's like the National Organization for school PR people I know cousin has worked with Inspira to get free um Twitter verified accounts for school districts now that was before you know the last three four months when when Mr must took over and kind of changed how Twitter verified accounts work but

um they were they were working towards a solution to have schools have Twitter accounts or let schools have Twitter accounts that were verified this is the school's Twitter account so um and I know our PR guy has some other resources available to him from social media entities so I think that's where those those relationships become important in those National memberships and those National organizations like Kosen and like Inspira um do do pay dividends um by being a member

um we've even had the and it's it's innocent it's for the good of the cause uh but say Facebook we have a lot of our teams that are activities that have Facebook pages that we have created um but say one doesn't have one so then a uh a mom or a grandma uh whoever they go out of their way to go ahead and make that page and they're they're saying it's our school it's our school's team um your logo yeah but it's it's not us and again that's for the for the good of

the cause as far as where the whether you're your your your mind and your heart was that um but but it's not good right because in a lot of those cases it doesn't it it's not saying the sentences that the school would say it's not speaking on behalf of the school but it sure looks like it's intended to do that and there's no way for the school besides trying to re like I've had that job where I'm supposed to try to reach out and figure out who's actually the owner of that and see if we

can get it shut down or take over ownership right um but that's all on me trying to reach out to a person doesn't have to talk to me there's no way for Facebook uh to help me out with that yeah and and good luck doing that if the if the person's a jerk and and is doing it for nefarious reasons they're not gonna let you have ownership of that page or you know it's a it's a mock page or whatever yeah it's uh I don't I don't know what the solution is but it's thankfully we haven't had to

deal with that a lot we had one one time that it was a nice lady that had the good intentions and stuff you know and and she received well the the point of why we want to take ownership on is because when her whatever it was when when the kid in her life graduates she's not going to care to right update that page anymore so that's why it's important for the district to have that and she and she got that right uh so I'm like all you gotta do is I'm gonna add you as a friend and then

you gotta add me as a admin or a manager whatever and then I can take it and and the whole bit well she couldn't figure out her Facebook password oh geez uh and then she kept hitting the reset email deal and it's not going to the email that she thought she had oh geez which is the whole point right that's the prop that's the problem um and again there's no way to fix that so now that page is sitting out there and we we can't get it she can't give it you know that that

kind of thing and again there's no Facebook doesn't appear to care right or any other social media you know who does care and they care about your network infrastructure extreme networks who is that extreme networks oh yeah that's who I got uh I received delivery of our last two extreme networks that were uh waiting for shipment this week so we're super excited about that and getting those rolled out um Chris who do people contact if they want to hear about or learn more about

the some of the best upper right quadrant in Gartner's survey physical and wireless converge networking who do they email and go straight up to the top Dominic Mayer D mayor m-a-y-e-r at extremenetworks.com and they are in that upper right quadrant of Gartner who you interviewed two weeks ago or last week I thought they were gonna announce like a new like a fifth a fifth quadrant what quadrant I don't know that that's how quadrants quad they didn't work that news

um did you guys see this thing this announcement from uh Microsoft about the chat GPT cyber security thing they haven't I didn't click on it they haven't excuse me they haven't released it in the wild yet they're beta in it um and it will be released soon apparently but it's called security copilot they are taking kind of the security functions of monitoring logs and stuff like that and wrapping it into the Mark's favorite thing chat GPT um this is actually a flavor of gbp4

um and it's it's uh kind of doing all this cyber security work for you um so if you're you're curious about it do a Google search on security copilot from Microsoft I watched a video on it it's uh it's it takes all that security stuff all that log monitoring stuff and kind of boils it down to language that any average person can understand uh so I think it it uh it could go quite far as far as cyber cyber security stuff goes in the in the near future especially with go ahead Mark I didn't I

didn't see a lot of the announcements so apologize for my ignorance on this one but I saw you know a little brief snippet snippet sorry a little snippet of it where it was like a chat right it's very similar like yeah GPT yeah how does that work with cyber security like are you supposed to type in have I been hacked and then we'll say like no you're fine I think five minutes later you're like how about now no are we still okay how about now no no no problem yeah yeah that would be

me every five minutes hey are we cool yeah and then you go to lunch and you come back after lunch like hey I just got back what'd I miss and I'm like nothing that would be you Josh look again please are you sure oh hold on a second no I I honestly don't know how it all works I obviously I think it ingests data from I mean being Microsoft you can assume that it's gonna going to ingest data from Azure or Azure however you pronounce it where you live um Mark how do you pronounce it

I don't Azure Azure yeah I've heard people say as you were though I think they're they're probably French um you know my my dipstick is Azure ad s Azure ad sounds way better than Azure ID why did you say dipstick well like a dipstick of like here's my little test right as you name off one of the products Azure ad rolls off the tongue way better than Azure ad I think that's called litmus test Mark dipstick div six kind of derogatory what just move on please okay um

I think he was calling us dipsticks Chris um so this is this is one of the differences between our next to the woods dipstick is derogatory we're gonna have to cut this whole segment out so chat GPT wrote me two grants and a cover letter this week a cover letter for your resume no for the for one of the grants oh gotcha okay I got to the internet said please write a cover letter I was like oh no chat GPT will you write a cover letter for the grant so if you don't know the cops Grant is

open right now right and for the next what 15 days 30 days or so yeah sounds right um it's a Federal grant for security for school districts not not cyber security physical security um and it's uh I know several schools in the in our region that have gotten that Grant before so if you are looking for grant money for physical security and and we all know that is at the top of the list for schools uh check out the cops Grant it's administered who's it administered from

but if you just Google cops Grant you'll you'll figure it out um let's talk four to EDR real quick Chris that's you man always me what do you know about it um I know it's made by Fortinet and instead of the net they put EDR so it's 40 EDR so EDR Solutions are I'm sure if you're in K-12 Tech you have heard about EDR enough this year to make yourself sick insurance companies are acquiring it um consortiums are requiring it it's it's just at the top of the list for

most school districts right now and of course there's any number of flavors out there there's companies that just smack EDR in the name of their product and hope that you don't look at it deep enough to realize that they really aren't an EDR it's just regular antivirus but Florida EDR does not follow fall into that classification 40 EDR is uh an award-winning EDR they take it very very seriously there's a couple case studies out there there's a district in Florida

we'll we'll link this and show no show nodes but uh the Okeechobee County School District uh they went ahead and they bought 40 EDR to qualify for for their cyber Insurance requirement of having EDR uh so if you are interested in learning more about the Ford EDR obviously Chris illingsworth our buddy our pal our friend at Fortinet um who absolutely loves our Fortinet product name suggestions um he won't tell you that in person because you know he's gotta you know make make

like he's a he doesn't like him but he he absolutely loves our name suggestions uh he is our sales guy here in our region Chris what's the email address for foreign podcast at fortinet.com so yeah go email Chris that that email address goes straight to Chris so email him ask him some questions about the 40 EDR it plays well perfectly honestly with the Fortinet fortigate firewalls um it if those two plug together they can shut down a device if it sees suspicious traffic on the network or

trying to get out to the web so email that address let Chris know you heard about their products from us um what else we got automat podcast at fortinet.com there you go um have you guys did you guys know that Google is rolling out AI in Google workspace documents soon ready um so they are rolling out the you kind of that AI prompt like if you go to chat GPT and say write me a resume template um they are rolling out kind of that feature set in Google Docs I saw there's

a YouTube video out there about it um they say it's currently in beta and they've only rolled it out to key uh installs of their products but they their goal is to roll it out even more they they showed it writing custom emails to employees thanking them for their service and like it was doing it all it was mind-blowing YouTube video um I know Mark loves chat GPT is is this where we're headed like well okay so I have I mean I've seen a lot of announcements about that I've seen all

the it's it's called Bard uh is is Google's AI version the question I have is around uh data siloing so if I am using this AI to finish up a Google doc or write an email and this AI is using it's using data it has learned is that data from within your account is it from within your organization is it from outside so if I write an email and suddenly the AI is not abiding by my Google doc preferences or my all my data loss prevention rules like is it gonna say is it going to pull

information from somebody else's Gmail and Google drive or another district and pull that in so I have real questions about that sounds cool but how does it work with uh data privacy and realistically is it pulling data just from your account or your domain and how does that work doesn't matter get over it bro it's happening yeah we know you hate gbt it's okay um no no I I think those are the future Mark they are valid concerns you either get in or get out

and I think the the other the other part of that discussion Mark is from a student data privacy concern is if if GPT is learning from student input um how where does that stop how how far does that spread out if if my son is using GPT and and giving input to gbt to write an article or to write a review of something how how do we know that it's not using that same content in another student's article um yeah no I I to me if if Google does end up rolling out this AI prompt in Docs

from a school standpoint from a school administrator standpoint I would surely hope that they would have a setting that would allow you to turn that off for students but leave it on for faculty or you know something something like that like what they did with YouTube in the the age restriction thing where you had to go in and say what ous contained individuals that were under the age of 18.

um yeah I there there has to be some sort of way to restrict the the use well but more than just a yes or a no I'm going to allow this but it's for me I'm wondering if I you know let's say in my role and Chris is the head of HR if I ask this AI tool to write an email and say like oh well I want to know what Josh's salary is is this AI smart enough to know like well Chris has a Google doc and he shared it with you therefore it's reasonable for you to know that information

or is it smart enough to say well I don't know that answer because it's not available to you in your account like that's practically speaking what I'm really concerned about sure that's about like from a global perspective of like is this right or is it not right I'm really thinking practically speaking is AI going to adhere to my email and my sharing permissions already and use that to feed information if it gets dangerous if it's like so I I have like a salary doc that I

found on my own and I've kept it so then Mark you're asking that question and then it's like I don't know the answer but Chris might know and you're like oh my gosh yeah that's there was some some good discussion at coastin about how cool it could be how great it could be how useful it could be if it's like in your sis where you can just without looking at spreadsheets without sorting spreadsheets sure ask it questions and and that big the uh I forget who said it but they said it's going to be

important to ask the the right questions uh you you might say give me the top 10 teachers it might give you an answer but you need to unpack why it decided that and like yeah yeah are those teachers do they have particular kids from particular neighborhoods with particular things attached to them that make them the the more achieving students you know but again it's AI So in theory you would think that it gets to that point where you can ask it proper questions and it's

going to dig and tell you why I mean but it's go ahead so just Chris thinking about you saying having that in your cyst to me unless you have the back end to run that I don't see that happening in CIS right for the foreseeable future even because it does say it does take such compute power for it one to understand what you're typing and put that into actionable data and pull that data and then parse that data I don't for people that have a hosted CIS you're you're not going to have that local

um that data is going to have to go out and come back at some point I don't see that happening um sorry at least right now um so Josh you you said something I forgot I have a trivia question for you this week oh oh okay cool all right hold on this is the provision Data Solutions trivia question of the episode [Laughter] go mark last week Gordon Moore died yes died at

the age of 94. yes what is Gordon Moore famous for I know this answer I know this answer Chris is just like I'm not even gonna try it's something like you're gonna say it and it's like ah [Music] yeah um it's something super rudimentary too um well my hint is that he was uh famous for being the co-founder of Intel yeah years ago and during that he made a statement I'm Googling it tell it tell us Mark Moore's Law wasn't going there what is law Mark Moore's Law is way back

and I'm gonna butcher the day but I think believe is in the 60s when he stated that the [Music] um that the processor will double in speed yes every two years or to be more specific that the number of transistors uh will double in a microchip every every two years or 18 months yeah and for the most part he was on point well up until the very very recent future or a recent past recent Moore's Law founder of Moore's law passed away we're talking about time travel now boys [Laughter]

um Chris tell us about absolute absolute is a proud new sponsor of the K-12 Tech Talk podcast uh we're gonna hang out with them for the next six weeks uh the contact there uh this guy Oliver you can email him at oh Schmidt oh at absolute.com now I like that email address I hope I'm saying it right that that's Oliver you're gonna he's gonna let me know that I did a terrible job at that anyways if you don't know what they do what they are uh we're gonna link to that of course but here's a little

here's a little tasty taste uh talking about student data uh reclaiming getting your Chromebooks back we got one to one all over the place uh a lot of initiatives with one to one giving every student a device uh absolute software uh gives you a persistent connection uh they can help you geolocate freeze why promote uh devices uh I'm gonna there's a lot to unpack with them and it's going to take us the six weeks to unpack it but I'm gonna put a link uh they have an

education Solutions brief that you can check out uh but first they will help you get your Chromebooks back it's funny you mentioned that we so we don't we we've not used absolute this is I mean that's not an indictment of them or anything indictment see what I said there did there um we had an alert from a product that we used to subscribe to we haven't used this product in probably two years but they were our filter and MDM and classroom management tool for a number of years

we got an alert today that a Chromebook we put in Lost mode two years ago popped online and we uh yeah we were talking in the office how Wild is it that we and this is from a student data privacy standpoint this is like oh crap they still have our devices under management um like it it hasn't been online in two years and it and it pops online and one of the log entries said that it had gone back to um not developer mode but the other mode you know standard mode or whatever so

someone had tried wiping that device before it popped back online so it's probably in a pawn shop somewhere so yeah we thought that was funny that a product we haven't used in two years was still mdming our devices um Chris I know we talked about PDS earlier in the last couple weeks the the phrase with PDS has been PDS can help you it can take you where you want to go you guys like that line yes I did and I thank you to wherever you want to go and I horribly screwed it up I didn't do it

justice so let's let's do it again here real quick PDS will help you go where you want to go Chris where is the speaking going speaking of where we're going uh we get to hang out in New Hampshire and we've kind of been starting to hype this up but the three of us we're going to be in person together for the first time ever at New Hampshire's CTO Clinic bunch of tech directors Tech folks hanging out May 3rd all three of us in person it's at the end uh at what was it Mill Falls I think yes

you can check out nhcto.org uh if you're New Hampshire area an area I think they let some Massachusetts folk come on if you wanted to yeah we had a conversation with them this week and we learned a couple important things um they will let neighboring neighboring states come you don't have to be a New Hampshire resident or a New Hampshire school to come they were all about opening it up to other people that if we could bang that drum for them and get other people there they were more than

happy to get people there the other thing that we learned they're gonna have good bourbon to drink so if you want to come have a dram that's on with me those on Josh's Rider oh yeah it was totally on our contract um if you want to come share a Duran with me I don't they didn't say what good bourbon now good bourbon they're good bourbon might be different than my good bourbon I don't know um but bourbon's bourbon right like I'm not going to turn down good bourbon I

don't know so if you want to come share a drink with me come to the New Hampshire CTO Clinic let's let's and and maybe even mark my I know Mark's going to be there maybe Mark will share a drink with us and let me just say the the property at where this this conference is being held um what was the name of the conference the name of the um facility again Chris Mark do you know Church Landing Church Landing have you guys that right yes it is right um this looks absolutely beautiful and

one of the one of the guys we were talking to this week said yeah this is this is the Lake of the Ozarks of New Hampshire and I'm thinking this looks way nicer than like of the Ozarks um this place looks beautiful do you get okay this is gonna sound horrible the the the facility that this was taking place at I thought for a second that this was the place that American Pie 2 was filmed like that where the wedding and the wedding reception to your head I don't know how many times

did you watch American Pie 2 in high school college uh in high school it would have been College because if that's one of like that's if you got that floater that's pretty up towards the top of your head looks like the the building looked like the building that they had the wedding and the reception for American Pie too it looks beautiful I'm just disappointed that Josh is like super hyped about this spot meanwhile I'm like uh you're sleeping on my couch that sounds great but you're not staying

there you're staying with me oh we forgot right the facility where this conference is being held looks absolutely gorgeous and we're gonna be there we're going to talk about the future no we're talking Lessons Learned man Lessons Learned From the Past not the future that help us with the future so if you are in that main Vermont what other states are up there mark Maine Vermont um Massachusetts uh come on over to the New Hampshire CTO Clinic uh and and say hello that their

agenda looks great we are giving the keynote uh but there will be breakout sessions as well and we're doing a session too yeah we are doing it and we're gonna have a table and there's going to be bourbon um so yeah come say hello hey I just got a text uh-oh from my curriculum director said what is the website that writes your papers it's getting out tell her tell her Urban Dictionary mark that would be funny to say though that would be awful all right uh if you want

to email us if you have a question we do have some listener emails we need to get to but not tonight we're already over um we will get to those in the near future if you have a question or a critique maybe be nice someone complained on Twitter that I use too many sound effects during the Kosen episodes yeah that was my pseudo name I'm sorry about that Josh oh that's hilarious it's fine let us know k12techtalk gmail.com uh we are also on Twitter just search K-12 Tech Talk podcast

um Chris do you want to hit K-12 Tech Pro real quick for sure K12 Tech Pro k12techpro.com uh you can click on we have this new thing called the community uh you click on that to join it it's a vetted community so we're proving that you work actively in a K-12 tech department you have to fill that thing out it might take us a day or so to get you verified we have a person doing that and then we onboard you you're in uh you get attached to whatever state you're

from you get to hang out with your State Community but you get to be a part of a global Community too we have I mean it's message boards and chat uh when you dump it all the way down but we have things called water coolers so you're in the office around a water cooler we have those for different topics or different states and the global one and we have Tech talks based upon your state based upon topics and it's been going really cool so not to over say it but we're in 20 States a lot

of those states only have one person sitting in there by themselves uh but we're in 20 States over the last three weeks really excited about that uh so come to K-12 Tech Pro uh uh the Pod episodes flow into there as well the articles that we do on that website flow into there as well uh you'll catch us on there hanging out but another I mean it's just so cool the Pod getting to go to coast and all this stuff we get to do you know at the end of the day the podcast we're three texts from three

places hanging out just bantering about what's going on in K-12 Tech Midwest Tech talk when we plug that plug that that's what what we're doing when we get to go to cousin people are coming up to us that's all we're doing we're just hanging out and talking about what's going on that's what K-12 Tech Pro that Community thing that that's the vibe that we're going for uh if you're a one-person tech department come hang out with us there's like a Google issue the other day someone's like hey anybody

having Google issues you're like yeah I know whatever it's just a good place to talk uh to post questions all that kind of stuff so k12techpro.com Chris tell us one of the states that only has one person they need friends and I'm sure we have listened listeners there uh I think Rhode Island would be one because that that one guy like asked to join Massachusetts because there's like Mark and one other dude in there there's like three people in Massachusetts uh

one in Rhode Island there's four people in Massachusetts hello excuse Chris no no that is Chris the fourth person that's me yeah right now I'm like the guy that's like hey you guys still doing okay we're trying to get someone to come over and talk to you guys anybody need a beer I know Chris is like I'm just gonna hang out here if you guys need a juice box let me know string cheese anyways and then there's a guy from Rhode Island so it's it's it's really just Mark it's a

one-on-one conversation with supervision so if if you're in Rhode Island or Massachusetts go out to Tech Pro K12 Tech Pro uh sign up for the community don't be afraid to click the sponsored membership do that that's cool yeah read the form when you're filling it out and don't don't troll me apparently that gets you delayed and getting uh vetted and if you say mean things about me not not cool and and Josh at some point we're gonna stop this probably maybe but

a lot of people change their profile pic to Josh's face yeah I don't get it it's slightly irritating um so that that's all I have for tonight you guys you you just made this whole thing about you yes that's all you have yeah that's all I have that's all that matters um that's episode 112. shoot us an email find us on Twitter hit us on K12 Tech Pro find us at the New Hampshire Clinic we'll see you next week thanks for listening good to be back everything

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