That is character development, I'm telling you I got a story for everywhere. I done been
I had this scooter in Thailand. And so I'm on the scooter and I would, I would go, like we were so used to being in the area It's like I would drop Moya off at a cafe and then I would go somewhere and then I would come back and get her. So I'm like, you know, actually getting around. So I got around with GPS though, and I would put the, you know, my AirPods in, so that's how I could get the directions.
And I didn't want to look down, you know, So in the voice thing it would say in 300 feet, turn left on
You talk about some character Hey, y'all welcome back to another week of just keep living this week. We are going to talk about how traveling opened up a whole new world. Yeah,
in the
corner. You y'all y'all don't know that parse. Y'all know how to play the drums. Oh
yeah, we do. Oh, and you, you got that gift. I could see that to go in talent.
I think you could do every job in the, and she asked, I knew
exactly.
I used to do a little usher. I love
you. A little bit, I feel like you would get tired of the people and be like, look, just sit in the damn seat. Look, I was younger.
I was young. I was younger. Yes. So we want to talk to you guys about traveling and where we've been and why, and kind of how it changes your perspective on life. Um, so we just go and get started. First thing we want you guys to know is how much, uh, past. Cost, how much does it cost to leave America
to start to leave America
to start, start? Cause you got to get that and
a ticket. And now we right here about a border. All y'all really need is a passport. Oh. Speaking of you don't even need a passport to get across the border. People don't understand that. So when y'all come out here to visit. Um, we say, let's go. We say, let's go to see a water real quick to eat and they'd be like, wait, I don't have a passport. I'd be like, you got an ID and they'd be like, uh, I be like, come on, let's go get these tacos real quick. Yep. Yeah. You know what?
I just realized we didn't even do an introduction. Y'all don't even know who we are. Oh, take it out with the Lord. Not me. This is Jenna. This is partial.
Oh, wait. Oh,
there we go. Don't forget. Master P
Shannon. There we go, sorry. I'm kind of out of order. And I got notes. I didn't take my medicine today, but we could, you
know, it was a whole new world that threw us off.
I know I was trying to make a nice
little razzle-dazzle even got into church at one person. I was still feeling that. So. Okay, I'm
going to make it a whole spirit
lead right now for like 30 minutes.
And you hungry anyway, that is a tangent cause you'd be hungry on a passport. A passport is $145 80. And how long do you generally have to wait pre pandemic? Do you, did you wait for just a regular passport or did everybody hear expedite? I didn't
know. Yeah. Then when you it with how fast you get sourced two weeks without expedite
two weeks. Yeah, I was going to say you can, it will still be, uh, you know,
that, that rain, the time now, pandemic, everybody's trying to leave America because we've been in the pepperoni for a year and a half and it's taken 12 weeks, 16 weeks. Yeah,
it was literally using the four, six to
12, but your password is good for 10 years. That's yeah. A lot of people don't understand that. Yeah. The kids are different. Of course they gonna look different in five years, but it's really an investment a quick one. If you think you go out to dinner two times, you at 1 45, if we get an appetizer, we get a cocktail and you get an entree and a tip. Two times, depending on where we go, really one but two, two. And you've paid for your passport.
It's funny because a couple of weeks ago, um, I seen my friend going back and forth. Somebody in a social medias comments about traveling. She was just saying that I wish more people would travel. So they wouldn't be impressed by, um, certain brands of liquor is where she was going. She was like, y'all always overpriced. We've been in tasted that six years ago, you know, Indian is personal. You just saying that because you've traveled before we can't afford to travel.
So this is a really good topic because he was saying that, you know, we could, they couldn't afford to travel. And she was saying, it's really not expensive as you think. But he was like, it's cheaper for me to go Miami. And I was in the comments, like that's not true at all. I like to travel places where my American dollar is usually three to four times the currency there. So I can eat for a dollar, $2 and then go get 15 massagers if that's what we want to do.
So. But it's funny because this person who was fussing with him in the comments, I went through his page, which was public and I circled his gold chain and then he had on J's. So I took photos and I circled it and I sent it to her and I was like, girl, stop arguing with him. You know what you don't know? So, um, I wish people with. Step out on a lamb, get your passport or something to get. Anyway, if you don't learn nothing else, let me and ended the pepperoni.
Then you just want to go America, be tried us
or be ready to go. That's it. That's all. So we want to go places and you're like, oh, I got to wait and get my passport. You want to be able to go like, so you have the ability to go. Cause I've been wanting to take a trip with like two weeks notice and go across the world. So, but I
was already self-employed. She has another component. Um, and she don't have children. They say people without chills to be ready to go to Africa over the weekend. We want to have her call Monday. You want to go near a person without kids. I'm ready to go. I want to go. And I'd be like, well, who's gonna
watch, I don't
need a passport. I feel you ready. Uh, tell me a few of the places you've been with your passport. Um,
I've been to. Was
that your first time leaving the country? Yes. Well, not never. You got really nervous. I
was nervous. I was really, really nervous because I mean, going across, I don't know that long and being up in the plane that long and all that, I didn't know what to expect, but, um, but I've been to Thailand, Cambodia, uh, Japan. Canada, Mexico,
Jamaica. Jamaica. Don't forget about the islands. True. No. So that's six. Yeah. How about your Shoshana now? You're gonna give them a different perspective. I support and that we all are
different. I truly appreciate it. The here y'all cause I've only traveled outside.
Uh, that's a word though. I'd been all over the country
is through a book, you know, and other people's perspectives and experiences. But, you know, I traveled in the states, just not out of state of America, but
you guys have a true plan for a couple of months, right? What's about that.
For a whole week. Ooh, Ooh. Yes. This is definitely something that's been on my dream board for a quite awhile. My vision board and I was going to before the pandemic was going through it on a cruise, had it all paid for full, exclusive everything before the pandemic. Shut that down.
The pepperoni one again, I was about to be out the country because. What about you, Joe? Oh man.
Yeah, I've been to England, Germany, Canada, Mexico, Panama Guam, Japan, Philippines, uh, yeah, trying to think. I think there was like two other places, but, but I've been all over. So. I've been traveling since I was a kid. I can't remember not traveling. I don't think I've lived in one place more than five or six years. Wow. I've just traveled my whole life
born in Germany.
Let's get you a German name.
Funny story. My parents used to call me Joe meats, which means Joe bitch. I didn't even know it. Wow. you know what I mean? And just saying that shit bitch, like, damn. All right. what about, yeah. What about you,
Ben? Where you been? Let me say this. So how the, my first time out the country was on a cruise. There's a show called amazing. And there was a slide in The Bahamas. It's called a Lantus. And it was, at that time, it was one of the, like the longest waterslides in the world and they had showed it. And I was like, I have to go there because I like all things, water. You remember that one time partial almost killed me. We allow. Here today, you Brian, I still got a scar. A jet
ski killed in the middle of no,
no, no. We almost killed me on an exclusion exclusion in the middle of the ocean and Mexico, but I didn't die. We got stories and I had a good time. Um, it was this slide that they showed, uh, Lantis. And I didn't even know anything about a passport, then it was like, oh, I could go on a cruise out of Florida and it would take us to several places. So, and I'm, I know I'm about to mess up some places cause I've done cruises and I'm of course, of course, flown into places.
I remember going to The Bahamas, Jamaica, grand Cayman islands, which is beautiful. The prettiest water I've ever seen. You can see fish swimming, just looking over, um, beautiful people too. The melanin is real. Um, okay. Aruba. I did a robot with my sister and that was my first time flying into another country. Yeah. And that I came, where did I go out of lax all the way to Florida, Florida to Aruba. That was the long way. Um, then we went to Parcell and I went to Thailand again.
We had a quick little layover in China. I really wouldn't call that. Um, hold on. Where did we go? All throughout Mexico? I didn't did to loom Cabo Cancun. I know I missed some, some other stuff up in there. Um, Um, I know I'm missing some places because when we did that little presentation named Cabo, he was naming places that he thought we wanted to go. And we were like, been there. He was like, do you guys want to go to Susan? I was like, I know I've already been there.
You know, they think just Americans, we full of money when he would say, well, how much vacation do you get a year? And I was like four weeks. And he was like four weeks. We only get one. Well, take that up with God. Okay. Yeah. I mean, anyway,
he was
very weird. Rude. Wasn't it?
Shit. Well, that's the one I want carry your bag. Right? It was heavy. He asked me for the time
he said,
your bag looks heavy and then kept walking.
You said, y'all got four weeks. I'd be like, fuck your four week.
There's a word. There's a word that's so funny. But there is different ways to leave the United States. If you do not have a past. It's really. Okay. You can get on a cruise and cruise all over cruises. Don't make it hair passports. Not if you leave the United States. Now, if you go to Netherland and get on a cruise, but as long as you're leaving the United States, And
as long as you're leaving and returning. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I thought I needed my passport when I made that. I thought I needed it. oh
man. I think it's a strong suggestion. Every time you're leaving the country, people get real nervous. Where we're at, it looked like I'm from, they always bring me back. They, one time I got kicked out of Mexico, true story. Oh, my guys I've been kicked out of better places. And when they want to kick me out, a bar kicks out of Mexico, they just returned me. They know I don't feel fit.
Yeah. Even before I had a passport, when we just go over to TJ and go eat or go to somebody's birthday party, I took my kids. My kids don't have their passports.
I'll be scared though. I wait, I just feel like I need somebody that can speak their language. So it's true. I mean, I've done that now, but I just say, literally go in its state that that's their language. I figured Google is not going to help me. It might mess me up and say the wrong
to me shows like life in other countries is just to say like, here you got workplaces, like it's so simple.
Ah,
wow. How enclosed I
am. Like when you go out and see you, it's like, it's not what you see on TV, what they portray, like, you know what I mean? It's so,
so what are the benefits of traveling outside of the United States? Yeah,
man, like I liked it because it opened up a world of possibilities and opportunities that I got, I would never have saw. I've seen if I would have stayed in one state. One town. So I can, when you traveling. And now when I talk to somebody who hasn't been traveling, it's hard to hold a conversation because perspective, they don't see it and they don't get it. Their mind is so enclosed to a lot of things and, and stuff that goes on, you know what I mean?
And so, it's hard for them to think outside the box, and being creative. And I think it really saved my life as far as somebody, being trained to be like a. And a box traveling showed me that you don't have to, you not to live in a box. And so I always questioned the rule. I'll always question, why do we have to limit? And that's always been in my mind, why do we have to limit? When I sit, when I saw so much stuff and people living without limits, why do we got to live with a limit?
And so that pushed me from track that that's why traveled and opened me up, man, sauna tested it. Like I'm all about pushing boundaries and going more and going more one more. Cause I've seen it. And I know it's. And so that's why I think that's why I love, I'm so happy that I got to travel as, as a kid and all throughout my life, because I just got to see you see that how,
and when you travel, you get to see so many different people or how they live and how they got there. And when you find it, you may be in this little bitty town in the middle of Asia, and you'd be like, wait, And the Berrigans taken over here too. Wait, y'all got a coffee shop over here, Tom Tommy in the middle of the Tyler, then y'all colonizing over here.
What they so loving? No, like when you go places, they are the most free-living most low end. Like it's so like crazy it make you come back here and you be like,
I just know this is temporary for me. Yeah.
That's it. That's what it is. No, for real, like you, you, you know what I'm saying? Like, and then you go there and it's like, like, dang, like it's so peaceful. They're so loving. They're caring. They, they, they do so much for you to, like, I remember living in Guam because I was on a sub. We had the four deployed over there all the time. So we were spending a lot of time on Guam. I got connected with. And they would literally, anytime that I needed, uh, they knew I was coming in.
They were there, the family would give me a car. They would leave it outside the gate for me, they would take me in, they would feed me like this people. They didn't even really know me like that. You know? And so, and then you come over here and try to spread that love and people look at you, like, what the fuck wrong with you, bro? What? You want me to come in your house? Like, you're about to take your stuff. You know what I mean?
But like that, to me, that's like, it's like, that's life though. That's like, that's
freedom. It's real interesting. I was in a band. And, uh, while I was there, went to, um, optometrist to get glasses, I was like, well, I can get it cheaper here. They had the whole setup or whatever. So I did the exam with the doctor, picked up my glasses and, um, and she says, yeah, I have a deliver Cory and bring it to your, to your hotel room. I said, well, we leave tomorrow. So, you know, it needs to come soon as she says, well, I got it. We'll take care of it.
So. Come to find out she caught, like it was eight o'clock. She was supposed to have the stuff, my glasses delivered it. Eight o'clock comes and she calls me and says, the courier can't be there, but I'm coming to bring it to you. She drove and brought the glasses to me, to my health center, like personally, the doctor, the owner of the place. Where would you ever see something like that back at home? Just the customer service is like off the chain in other countries.
It is starting in the airplane Remember the airplane ride? Yes. And when we came back. it was like the closer we got to United States. the more rude they became
But going there the people I said, can I have some more. water Yes, we water, water....customer service, and like genuinely wanting to do it. Cause you can feel that. And I said, that's the thing about it. It's like in these other countries, they have a different way of life, but how it feels is similar because it's love, it's feeling good. It's feeling like, you know, appreciation and respect all that
stuff. And they don't have as much stuff. Either
Yeah. Less stuff. That's what I wanted to talk about. happy,
selling fruit out of a cart. You know what I'm saying? Like making little pancakes for people.
Happy that you spending some money. So how much did it cost your, if you can remember how much your glasses, prescription glasses and exam when you were in Thailand, like $35. People travel to other countries for a medical room
right down here
to get my next round of light bulb in Mexico or Brazil. When you went to,
when y'all went to Asia, how we are treated. Because I was treated differently as a black, I was treated like a
king. Oh, well you a man, but that's what I'm saying, but
no, it was different. Like they, it was, I had such an experience that the guy was who was from the Philippines, but I guess he had traveled a lot and he would always tell him. He was at the date. We were there. He was like, man, you got to know your work, bro. Y'all you said y'all bring America all the money. And he was telling me like, as black culture, y'all bring America all the money, know your work, bro, know your work.
And he would literally tell me that every day I saw him, no, your work. And he would, and he was like, y'all do all this stuff, but y'all, you know, he said, you got to mentally. That you are so valuable to that country. Don't let the country, you know, overtake you. And it was deep man. And who was it? Every day. It was weird. And so every time I was over there, like, you know, I got, I got treated well, but that's why I wanted to know how yours was as
like on the airline, out of did we got lax? Okay. And it's been a B all across the for room. I'd be like, which airport was I at? only Oklahoma. On the air, the flight they're treated wonderful. I had my food choices selected before. So, um, they bring your food at different times. Partial was extremely nervous, but my doctor had gave me all kinds of meds. Cause I went and said, I'm traveling to this country.
So he gave me a prescription for a stomach bug for, um, you know, a long flight in tiny type med sleeping man. He gave us the whole kitten caboodle. I was like, let me get this nap woke up. The food was delicious. The flight and everything was. We, we ended up, we landed in China. Now let me say this.
Yeah. That's a
whole nother place. that's a whole, like, let me tell you this.
I'm going to have you tell your perspective in a second. But every time I go to a country, I collect their currency. I like collecting. Now. I know why people have a problem with China because China said the American dollar is shit. It ain't not now they're there. Their dollar is what is a yen worth more than American. So I went and converted some money, so I could just have it in my collection. And I was like, wait, this is it. Well, I guess I need to convert a little more.
I was like, oh, And most of the countries, when you go, where you, when you go places, they speak English, like where a lot of tourists are going to be China. Don't give a damn, you don't speak their language, shame on, you know what, nobody trying to speak English. They don't, they don't care. That's why they be shitting on us. That's uncomfortable with China, but this is the other part. So they don't get to see a lot of people of color except on TV.
And apparently the darker your skin, the more exotic you are. Right. And then we had our friend Karima who has lots of melanin. Um, they wouldn't talk to us, but they would want to secretly video take pictures. They want to stand by. Oh, it's really rude
because they would be.
You don't even know. I nobody even asking you, you could just be breathing, getting water, eating. Oh, yeah, yeah. And rise up. And they got a whole picture with you. It's
like, yeah. Cause they think you're like Beyonce or like somebody famous or something
that was more Thailand. I felt like they gave us the, are you beyond that? They be trying, you, you know, a food call me, me, me, me, me. And I was like, At least you didn't give me Beyonce, but it is, it is rootedness in Thailand. It was not in China. It was another level also. There's no personal space in China.
That's what I said. It's a whole different way of
different. It's like, this is you, this is there. And then they taking a picture of you. You're in my personal space. And now you're trying to secretly take, I don't know, would think
that they trying to take a picture of her so they can go home and then find her later, then kidnap occurred and go to the sea. That's what her mind start running. But I'm just telling her like, look, that's, that's why I need y'all to talk about. No,
I don't know where they was uploading the pictures or what, but what's your perspective be?
I mean, it was, it was the same, it just was a different vibe. They're completely, um, definitely on top of each other. Um, and I think that there was like some rootedness that Karima experienced in the bathroom or something like that because the woman was like trying to like clean her hands or something like that. Yeah,
like just splashed her. You forgot about her and criminals. Like what? Yeah, I forget
what she did, but it just, it just was a different experience there for
sure. But when we made it to Thailand guests who felt the same kind of a way about China, the rest of the world, and then we were in Thailand, we stopped and had that car. And then it was over the rainforest. That was beautiful. Um, and then it was two Chinese people behind me. I got pictures of, so I started taking pictures of here. it's funny because none of us mind, if you take a, if you want a picture with us, I get that. You've never seen these black people before, but you secretly.
Trying to take pictures, you'd be like, what are you doing? Like, just ask me for the picture. We would go places that people be like, can I have a picture with you? Absolutely. But it's that secretive? Am I not a human? Um, it, it gets really weird, but Thailand was amazing when people were nice. The time massage is not for me, but y'all enjoyed it. Right.
I
did. I don't know.
In the United States. That's when you get your nipple rush to
get, when you get everything, everything burst again. I love
Thailand. I could live in Chiang Mai for like three months at a time and be so good
type. It was amazing. Yeah. I had a good time.
Yes. It's dirt cheap. You get to have like an experience of, you're not, if you're going to travel. People to go do the cultural things of the culture. And like you would just, and that's what I say opens up your mind to so many different, like the world. Like you kind of get what I'm saying. You get to see that people, aren't what you really see on TV. Cause I hate when people go to countries and they just do all the American stuff.
Oh, like go over there and experience the culture because that's, what's going to make you grow as a person and you will enjoy and love that. That's like, that's like, To another country to see America again, like why would you want to do that? You know what I mean? Like go like go experience
the culture, the another country, and even Ruth Chris,
when your friend came out here and ate the
vanilla ice cream,
I mean, I love your perspectives on out of the country and now so eager to go myself, but I wouldn't like to give that perspective on people just getting out of your state. Like moon and may just from west, from east coast to west coast, you know, I was so the change up when I finally got on the plane, it's been 15 years ago when I first ever got on the plane and the change from Virginia to San Antonio.
The aura of people, the way they care for their family, their culture, their, I was like, wow, it was so not what I was used to like back home. Like people are more secluded or, you know, just change, just changing on how their views are. You got to have a certain style or a certain appearance and stuff. It was just like, so secluded and shut down. Mentally. When we finally went to San Antonio, I was like, oh my gosh, like they were carrying and like, They just treated you always as family.
It was other folk. That's what it is. Southern folk. That changed though, that changed vibe because here, as some people have said, the Virginia being still the south, that vibe was not the same. I made it. But I think maybe I'm just saying that because you know, people were like Southern and they'd be like, oh, you're just from the south. So they say Southern and south people are totally still, the vibe is stowed.
Oh, absolutely. I mean, yeah, Mississippi going to be a little different than Atlanta, Georgia, or Houston, Texas. It just depend on how deep you go and what you got to deal with. But
so going from that coast, but in learning to the west coast, just to, you know, of course the food will always be a change, but just the aura, how they just took care of their family, like. I don't care if mom and dad wasn't kicking it. You still was at that baby's party. You as support. They was that, that whole
world who were divorced, the other spouse
at the graduations of everything
come on, you know, black folk day, but they, they literally made it. They literally made it worth $3,000, a
little different here, but Texas, not Texas. I feel like I need, I get for three houses after living in San Diego, give me three houses, two cars,
and it's all cash,
right? Yeah. That's definitely different. That's. So I think it is important just to move around, um, from where you grew up to go see what life is like with other people, your perspective will change. You will extend grace. And it also kinda when. It's always like hitting the refresh button that I don't need all the stuff I have when I go to other countries, I be like, Jenna, when did you, what? We were in Thailand?
And we got this really nice Airbnb, and it didn't have a shower head, but this one was bougie. Cause this is a real nice Airbnb. But it's funny because growing up in Boley Oklahoma, I didn't took plenty of wash offs in the sink. It's just that switch that perspective. Yeah. It caught like, girl, you really don't need all that crap. You got And I'm a collector of crap. It's just like these people are living a simple life. Very happy, um, with what they have.
Yeah. It makes you just be like, girl, are
you detox from all the junk, the bull suitable? I
do, because I know when we started making even a shift change in our, in our mental perspective, coming from home or coming from Virginia and then going to like, uh, California, Washington, you know, when we started and then from Texas, the change in the aura on how people were, they were confident in what they wanted their business. So they were confident in. Th they're just talk with so different.
Like they weren't like all, you always have to work for somebody to get, to get employed or, you know, you got to become a nurse or become, you gotta become something higher. So shit, the change in, um, going like to California and Washington was like, you see more entrepreneurs. So that's the word I'm trying to say
no more free-thinking yes.
More free thinkers and people doing more for themselves and enjoying it. I enjoy doing what I'm doing also for others. Yeah. You didn't get that, you know, back home,
it was just a rat race. It's just living in a different light and not knowing so P when you think of like, because you've been, what's like the cheapest place you be. They get kind of give me an estimate of like, what what'd you consider cheaper or cheap.
So, because of where we are, I mean, Mexico is definitely cheap because if you can drive over to there and, uh, be there. So that, to me, that's cheap, but Thailand actually, I mean to me was the cheapest to be at it for a systemic, you know, extended period of time that you can
enjoy. So when you, I went back cause she literally came home for a little bit. Then with the Tyler, like three weeks later, you guys stay longer. We stayed
in Bangkok for like a
week hotel or what was
that? That was a hotel. Okay. Then when we got into Chiang Mai, that was like, um, it was actually more of like a condo kind of apartment. Okay. How much was it like 30 a night, Brandon? Yes, really, really nice open spacious,
like.
Okay. So I also have a question now with the currency. I hear you say, like there, so $30, what is that in American money
though? And about what their currency is called bot yeah, 30. I don't, I could look it up real quick. A thousand, right? A thousand bucks. What is it? That one American dollar to. Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Yeah. So then, you know, then we, we, we rented a scooter, which that was like a hundred bucks for the week or something like that. And on the scooter, just go wherever you want different cafes, different places to eat. Um, and we went somewhere and, well, we actually just get massages like every day, cause that's in American dollars, like anywhere between eight to 10 bucks per massage.
So literally you just to go find somewhere to go be to have lunch or something like that, then go get a massage.
So if you were to go to Vegas, you think how much you would spend at night to stay in Vegas? I just want people to understand that dirt cheap. Talk about Dubai. Y'all y'all go to Dubai, make your
money. Is this more, but if you go out like, like, uh, out towards like, you know, Asia, Asia, it's so fun, you get to experience so much for so
cheap man. And I mean, what are the things that you guys like to do when you guys travel out the country? Like activities?
I just, I don't know. Like I go to the culture, so I'll catch, like first thing I get a cab I know out there. I don't know if in the, in the, uh, Well, you guys are in Thailand. We had a cab that took us everywhere the whole time we were there. Oh, there's one cab. And so like, we, we found our cab and we just ride to all these places, go, go to the goat, go to the city.
And like, literally just like, you know, I like to experience the food and then like, you know, um, just do stuff that the cultural people would do. Like the, I don't know, one time the guys took us to this place. And then in Philippine, just like the wild, wild west man, like you, people, like you go to the gas station, the guy pumping your gas, got a sawed-off shotgun. Like, you don't understand this. And this is Bella's Jamaica.
And his belt here, like in his belt, like, like, damn bro, like that, you know? So like, you know, but you know, they took us to this place where you're like, you had all these like different types of weapons, they trying to sell us weapons. They're trying to sell us like samurai swords with laser pointers on them. Like, what kind of Jesus' name is this? You know, like, and, you know, then we wrote on a, on a, on a dirt bike.
Uh, with like four people on the same dirt bike, you know, I've seen people, families riding on dirt bikes, the mom, the dad, the two kids and everybody on one dirt, the scooter, like literally right. And then like, you know, so I go traveling and do that. And then we meet just different people, man, like, and they tell us, yeah, locals, man, you know, and I, over there is when I was like, damn, you can do anything. Anything is possible. They have strip clubs out of the house.
You go, you go, you call them holes. Look, you go, there you go. You go there. It's a dresser for the cashier at the
top of the floor. It's a simple life,
but I'm really beautiful. Real edge. The cash register was a dresser. They opened the dresser. George's money, throwing all in there and you're like, it was like the whip, but I'm just saying like, You can be creative and they, they love you, man. I mean, like that's so much fun, but just going into, going to town, go into town experience.
Yeah. People will just say,
you know, I think it's a mixture of like, have some tourist stuff that you do, but then have some stuff that is not because that's when you really do get to experience the culture in your own way. to kind of like Just discover. Cause, uh, it might freak you out and I've had some freak out moments, but that's what builds your
character. That is character development, I'm telling you I got a story for everywhere. I done been
I had this scooter in Thailand. And so I'm on the scooter and I would, I would go, like we were so used to being in the area It's like I would drop Moya off at a cafe and then I would go somewhere and then I would come back and get her. So I'm like, you know, actually getting around. So I got around with GPS though, and I would put the, you know, my AirPods in, so that's how I could get the directions.
And I didn't want to look down, you know, So in the voice thing it would say in 300 feet, turn left on
You talk about some character development and trust missed the turn
was ended up on the highway highway.
And just
self-development right there. That's so funny. And that's what be on the side. You'd be like
I kept, but I was not in this stuff. Like I can't read it.
I think
I should be turning left here. This, this seems for me, when you
walk around, confident, all you do is just walk around confidence.
If you turn
around and turn, it's going to redirect. You just
keep following the ticket, you where you need to go.
I love that. What do you, what do you find the best gender? Like when you go, especially for the first time activities for the first time.
So the first time I traveled out the country, I had a to do list because, but now, you know, this is. Sure 10 years later, it's like, I want to relax. I have to tell myself to just chill. So now it's like, I have a couple of things I want to do. And besides that, I'll figure it out. You're going to meet locals. And when you in the islands, this is what the lady he's. When you are in the islands, the more, the more meats you have on your thigh.
Honey, you don't find them locals and they gonna let you know where to go eat where the club is that, and I tend to live a little more freely. I'm not saying do what I do because I'm comfortable with. Um, but yeah, you'll meet people. Yeah. And I be down with the shit. I'll be with the sheets every time they'd be like, we're going over here. Are you going to eat? Let's go eat here. You want to ask the locals? What to do you want to kind of get out of those touristy areas?
Um, because they assume that all Americans have money. Um, yeah. And make sure that you're looking around, know what's going on. Don't be, I'm okay with Darren. Definitely, but I don't want to set myself up, you know, make sure you know, what's going on with, you know, don't, don't put yourself in real dangerous situations, but for me, I'm going to get in the water. I'm going to do cave stuff. Uh, uh, when I went to Taloon the Sonos Um, she did, but I'm still you, you did not know
you here, so you can go back to do
it again. Character Gabriel and Duane, wait, little daughter, you just got a zone now. Real quick. I almost died. And Snoke say like, oh, I, I, um, I swam in a cave, uh, where bats I been weighted.
Cause that's what I like. That's
cool.
Yes. I did that with, uh, Kenesha, who was like, girl, I can't go in there. I was like, you can do it. Like you're not going to die. So getting her through that or how we talk, we got Kenesha to do not scuba diving. Snorkel. We got her to snorkel. And what two separate Ks. We talked to Rema, how to snorkel, who didn't know how to swim, but snarkiness floating. Once you get out of that mental state, I may die. You start to have fun.
But when I was in saloon with Kenesha, she was like, girl, girl, I ain't going to no damn cave. I was like, why wouldn't you go into the cave? She looking at me like what's, but it's, you're doing a lot of stuff. You're pushing yourself. I was like, well, nobody's going to let you die there. They bring people through this cave all the time. What are the chances that your one black ass is go die? And the last a thousand denied?
Yeah. So once she got to work through those breasts, We had a good time to post them pictures. I never posted them cause she wasn't supposed to be there. But now it's been a few years later. I probably can post them, but that his stuff is amazing. I want to experience things that I've never done before. And that's what it is. Give me, give me the bags, you know, the four Wheeler through the rain forest. Um, I like that. I want to go fishing. I want to yeah.
Any of those things with the water I'm down and
I think to also like to travel to other things. Um, travel with friends and things like that. I think also strengthens your relationship because you have to endure these things together. As we talk about character development, there's also a bond that's being formed with people. When you like, uh, where did we go now? Does your phone work? Do you have, you know, whatever you rely on people, you develop a S a certain level of trust for people, you know, and your life. So I liked
the way you said about the locals. Like, you know, the locals will come with you. I know there was one time. Where was I at? I can't remember maybe Panama maybe. And I didn't really, I didn't speak Spanish being my friend, but we had a local who he made, made a friend and they were trying to, everybody's trying to sell us stuff over price, but the local, the local that we have from the bottom, the local sort of logo. No, no. Don't, don't take that. Nah, don't do that. It happened to me twice.
I went to me for the pains, having to do Panama with a local. Really? It was like, no, don't do that. Don't don't buy that. There's too much. You know what I'm saying? So
for the day they got a car. Yeah. And pick you up, pick you, drop you out. They don't tell you where to eat yet. Dude. Can you trust everybody? You may absolutely not listen to your intuition and stomach. Um, have I. You of course, you're not going to know about their currency, but be familiar with it. You know, the first time I didn't use the currency, um, the calculator to come in your phone, I just had some notes in my phone. It was like, this is what a dollar equals.
So I kind of could gauge it. What, a one, what? A five, what? A 10. But there's so many other things now that you can use I'm big on Google translate. I'm like, I don't care what the language is. I can write it. Yeah. My cap, my Cabo. What was his name that I made in capo that last. I'll be sending the messages in Spanish, baby. Poppy y'all would think I knew Spanish the way I be translated. Translate real quick. Some stuff meaning the same. They know they do.
You want to go? 'cause you know, some people think you just got to have money to travel. There's different ways you can, you can travel that afford the bang for your buck, for your
Airbnb. You don't have to stay in a hotel. Airbnb, you can have a nice suite inside of a larger house. Tell them it's private access. You know, you have a key to that. Pool is yours with the pool
in the pool. Swimming at you or the master bedroom. Just jump out the master into the pool or,
or get the whole place and split it with the people you
don't see my negatives. I made the pool personal pool. Yes. What about, uh, cruising cruises now? They're all inclusive. It's cruising because
once you get on there, do you get the menu when you go to sit down or like there's always food, but at. You sit down and they're like, there's no price on the food you several days or whatever you want us to nails, baby,
including cargo. Yes. My favorite part, eating the different things. People that don't have a passport, or you may have children, cruises are a great way to expose your children to traveling and you don't really have to see them. They have so many kids clubs, so many things. Um, you can check in with your kids. They'll come, they'll come find you. I always tell my kids for cruising. Y'all need to be back at the room at six so we can go to. Cause they going to do their own thing.
They're going to make their own friends. It's swimming. It's it's social, it's clubs, it's comedy clubs. Um, I do have a little input about all-inclusive like hotels is so not my thing, unless you can eat and drink, um, 23 hours out the day. Yeah. Cause that's how they make their money. Yes. That's true that they're hitting you over the head because they assume you're going to draw.
They well, they're trying to get, they, they don't assume you can drink all day, but they price it as if you're drinking all day. So a lot of people think I want to go all inclusive and I don't have to leave the resort. I'm like, don't do that. Just get a regular room, go get your own drink, go get your own food. It's going to be much cheaper. It's ways to travel that you're not out of the line.
And then I've seen people trade their trade for a trip. I had a friend who had. Takes pictures. Now, this guy didn't go to no school. He didn't do anything. He got out of the Navy, he played football at the academy. He was in the Navy. Then he got out and he just bought a, he had bought a nice camera and he started learning to, uh, edit himself. So now he travels the world.
Taking pictures for hotels and in turn for the, for the picture, they give him all the, all the time in the, in, you know, like three weeks in a, in a nicest hotel there's whatever it may be all around the world. So, so he would do his, like, you know, he'll come back work for a little bit, take pictures and then go.
Yeah. Okay. So, um, That's a good one. Like that's really living in your purpose and your gift. You going to travel through the world, taking pictures. Yeah. Networking. Cause he's taking pictures. He's meeting the next person.
Yes. Country. Oh, go ahead. No,
I was going to say even when I was in Thailand, once I thought to myself, let me put on a little event. Oh yeah. So at a cafe spot, they had like these, uh, extra rooms for business. And so they didn't want my money up front. I was like, let me see who comes out? And I said, you know, I have donations over it. If anybody want to pay it, pay for the room, my lunch.
And I said, money leftover, like just pulling up my computer and be like, Hey, like anybody got questions and just started talking to him, you know? And just putting, like, you can do that. Yeah, the expense and people that are
in entrepreneurship, people that's traveling. Um, I noticed a lot of people just having a bachelor's degree in whatever are living in a lot of different countries and teaching English three hours a day and they get, you know, all types of incentives for moving to that country. Housing travel.
Yeah. I had a cousin who did that. He had, he had a babysitter, he had all those things for his kid. He went to the private school. They, they do a lot. So there's different ways you can.
Yes. Um, so people don't just don't limit yourself because you, you may think something is expensive. You know, I have, uh, on my wishlist, Bali, I thought I was going to go to Bali this year, but Bali's not taking Americans as of today. This is my year. And I've been trying to get there three years. Um, but don't limit yourself. The most expensive thing in Bali is my flight out of it. And when we were looking at it, it was like $800, but you can get the, the housing in Bali.
If $90 a night, you can get a chef to come here for $20 and he bring. For three people. Yeah. People don't understand. You just got to get out. They don't, they don't know. Uh, just live, just keep living. That was a club. Yeah. Get out, get out and free, free yourself up, you know, get with the people. Now I love Airbnbs, especially when it's several of us. I get this one often. Now I will tell you that a lot of these countries you want to travel to, especially people of color.
I don't recommend getting an Airbnb in Jamaica. You understand that you you're already showing up as an American. The only, their only experience with Americans is through TV. They think we're superstars or celebrities, and we have a lot of money. It's a third world country. So if your Airbnb don't have security, you're setting beat. That's what I say. Be smart, meet smart about that. Um, where people are literally dying in the streets. Be careful.
You don't want to come bringing your jewelry and the nicest stuff when people are struggling to eat. And you know, they're making 10, 10 American dollars a month. That was the young lady that was, um, the cashier at a place we stopped off at, in Jamaica. And I had brought myself something to drink Kirsten when he was, he was probably three when I took him on a cruise and we went to Jamaica and some chips and she was like, oh, this is what you spend on your food.
Your snacks right here is what I make for the month. So get understand that. Wow. Yes. You don't want to go looking like a million dollar because they already think you look like a million dollars. Don't set yourself up for failure. Yes.
And speak speaking, a traveling, you know, and all that we have experienced and you know, this information. Um, what about these people from Detroit on people? B people.
Okay. So people be people and, um, I seen a, uh, interview Fox news interview with Bianca chambers from Detroit. K you, can you run a P. Two days she tracked her stolen. Mercedes-Benz all over Detroit on day three, she decided to take matters into her own hands that she did. She confronted the
feet. At that point, I was just like, doc, I'm not letting this male walking in Bianca
face-to-face with a guy. She says stole her brand new bed.
Excuse me. You got that. Dan's out there.
You should know. We went down Wednesday at a barbershop at Greenfield and grand river.
He has seven days west
Bianca. My favorite part was. She didn't want him to walk again because he didn't disrespect to her. Y'all y'all cannot, y'all get your ass whip over disrespect here. It's told us that now we know you'd be like, I really don't even want to do this, but you keep playing them on face gel. Tell them about your experience with Detroit folk. Y'all my favorite
choice. People, like I said, it's so whole y'all are holding. Yeah, state should be a
holding state to stay in the Capitol. Detroit
don't matter who they are. They going to bring whatever they, you know what I'm saying? They could seem like they had the most, like you said, the best profession, not professional, but behind closed doors, they gonna try to whip your ass, bro. Like
don't even play with them. They asked some of the best people. I know they are some
of the loving, most loyal more you'll yes. Crime people. But with. At the end real quick, like real quick, like
step
or two to every person from Detroit know how to dance, no matter
where y'all all know the same dancers that dance.
No you that could be a nurse practitioner, a pilots, an engineer. You do not play in. They face, they don't come where they folk.
Like she said, like, They take matters into their own hands. She says she traveled that she tracked the car for three days, waiting for the police to do something. And then she said, she took matters into all hands. She went to the proper, you
don't get enough nerve to go get his hair twisted in her car. Y'all and at the end she flattened her tires. Cause she would think the police, she didn't want him to get away. Bianca, you are the people, people in the fleet. We love, we love you. We love your energy. It, nobody was even. Th this is what y'all get for messing with folk. I tell you all the time, stop messing with folk y'all. Bianca probably were really hard for that. What was it? A
Mercedes
too. It was beautifully cocaine whites. Oh,
take
care of it too. Back in a stolen vehicle, they probably went
and got a wash and everything, and you probably had the carpets, shampooed and everything, and look at it, then got his ass beat over the head
and we just love y'all people be people and y'all are our people. So, what is your takeaway today before. About our episode.
Yeah. I just, uh, I think travel, definitely just, it expands you and I want to keep doing more of it and I encourage other people to do the same. It might be nervous, especially just even get out of your own state, but just, just gets into a different environment because you really see who you are, what you're made of and what you know, what's possible.
All right. What, what about you Shoshanna
to get about of this country? Cause, uh, y'all have wonderful experiences that I'm definitely going to get out my box and try.
Um, my thing is just like, uh, push yourself to like, like you said, I like how you say you do things that push your limit. You know, when you get out the country, don't go do something that's gonna make you. Go spearing something that's going to make that's different than you build that character. And, and another thing is like, take your kids, especially as, uh, you know, black people.
Like if you're traveling, even across the state line, wherever you go and take your kids so they can see something different, man. You know, can't imagine anything because they ain't seen it. You know what I mean? So it's hard to imagine something you ain't seen you haven't seen, you know? And so like traveling has opened up my eyes to a world of possibilities because I've seen shit and you can't tell me I haven't seen it, so I know it's possible.
So
For the high schoolers, like the people who are seniors, say that to them, for them, that like yo, before you, even if you can like, well now, you know, financially you can actually get about of this country, go travel and see another one.
Yeah. And you don't necessarily have to join the military to travel. Not that's what they tell a lot of our youth, they recommended. Don't do it. There you go. Just get your passport is good for 10 years. Get your trade. Talk about getting your trade. If your education may forget your trade and stack your dollars and leave. I think you really summed that up really well. Um, so I can't really top that. So we gotta talk to you guys, next week. So, just keep living