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Why Kanye Won’t Get Custody

Mar 18, 202215 minSeason 1Ep. 108
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Episode description

Bethenny on Kanye’s Instagram ban and the darkest days of her divorce.

Bethenny calls out the mistakes Kim and Kanye are making in their messy divorce. But it’s not really about Kim or Kanye— it’s about you, and how to make sure you don’t end up like Kimye. Plus, Bethenny opens up about how she was tormented through her last divorce, and how you can protect yourself.

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This gossipy dynamic that I'm now calling Kim yat with Kim, Kanye and Pete Davidson is fodder for many people. I you know, for TikTok's for jokes, all of it, um, and here in particular, I don't I mean, I yeah, I don't like to talk about things just for the sake of talking about them. I joked on Instagram, um and Twitter about you know that I've unsubscribed, dear media, I've unsubscribed to the Kimmey drama. But yet I'm still

getting these messages. So we're all witnessing something that's very public. There's so much to unpack. I want to discuss my my experience with this topic, my very very intimate experience of this topic. So he claims that he doesn't want his daughter on TikTok, which I can understand. It's too much and she could have a private account with just people to follow her. She doesn't need to be with six and a half million people if both parents don't

want that, And that's the thing. The decision making would be a critical factor in whether or not that was okay. But I'm sure that he will not be getting decision making because he's not making rational decisions in his own life, so he's committing custody suicide. So first and foremost, he's entitled do not want his daughter to be on TikTok.

That's a little difficult to digest after he has been participating in a show where his daughter has been on it, and their entire lives have been documented as they soar to a family of billionaires, So deciding that you want to get off the right afterwards, which we've discussed before, doesn't really hold water. But he's entitled as a parent to not want his child to be posting for six and a half million people, and that would be a thing that if they had joint decision making, both would make.

I probably I can guarantee he will not be getting decision making. But I also mentioned before that playing to the court of public opinion and just begging for one of us to jump up and say, we think you're right, and we understand what you're saying. And he does make valid points. In his haze of irrational irrational text tweets and and posts, he makes certain points. He says that he felt like he was on a ride he never had his own Christmas at his own house every year

it was at their house. Okay, you signed up for that, you did that for that many years. And I'm sure it's hard for him to watch the machine keep going without him on it. And I'm sure it's hard that even though he's so public and every girlfriend he's dating, whether Kim look like or not, so public, but Kim is way more public. So to see your ex publicly

out there isn't easy. And I'm sure the fact that he went to help him on SNL because he has been her mentor in many ways, and to help her and then have her kiss the guy she's on the show with and realized that they were together or have hung out before, that's a tough pill to swallow too. So all of this could have driven him even more crazy. It's the perfect storm. Where before he had some illness that he was managing, and now this is the perfect

storm and an explosion. But what he's doing, as I mentioned, is just it's it's just it lacks logic, but again mental illness. But okay, but he's very logical when he's marketing a product. Okay, So I just want to talk about this because I for the better part of a decade, was the victim of something very similar to this, that very similar to this, but no one knew about it. I was under gag order and wasn't allowed to talk about it, and I, foolishly, just like the girls of

the Me too generations, should have talked about it. I should have played videos for UH people to hear me in court officials to hear the abuse that I was experiencing. But the good news for him is that it's out there. She has it all documented or lawyers have it documented. The judge will see it. It's out there, and she shines in this scenario. I had a situation where for the better part of a decade, I was first being recorded.

For months, I was my email was hacked into, I was defrauded, I was followed, I was taunted and emailed the most vicious things day and night, and in any category one it would be focusing on any men I would talk to or go out on dates with your disgusting and it's a revolving door of men and say to you know, my you know, and and and do that in front of my child and discuss, oh, mommy must be out and she must be doing this, and she must be doing that, or then another time because

I happened to be out to dinner um and I used to cut lee for forty five minutes because I was so panicked because of these types of emails. I almost I started to believe it. You start to believe the things people say to you, and those of you who have experienced emotional abuse or harassment or stalking, you

know what I'm talking about. Where if I left for forty five minutes to go out to dinner, I was called disgusting, a terrible parent, And there was a bomb scare on my street one time that I left for forty five minutes, and I rushed back and had to write an email, obviously to the other parent about what had happened. But I was terrified to do so because I knew that I would suffer abuse, and it was You're disgusting. What kind of parent leaves their child during

a bomb scare? So I used to be panicked for years to ever go out. I still have it. I never ever go out. I've never had a nanny. I'm with my daughter all the time that I have her, to the point where it's probably not the best for me. I never learned the skill of separating from my child, because I was literally abused for years. If I left my daughter for an hour, any any anything was a source of attack. Anything negative that the press said about me was so like, ha, ha heard yet a bad day.

L O, L You're disgusting and desperate and irrelevant, and I guess you're your fifteen minutes is up soon? And but all day every day, and if I was when I was with Dennis, we would get emails and he would be cced on all of them about minutia, about anything like all day, to the point where he had to get a season desist. But I was dealing with this alone. Nobody else knew, and I was the bad guy.

I was the one who's the wealthy, successful person and broke up with the regular guy, and he was the victim. And it was terrible because inside you know that you've been suffering this torture, and it's not really recognized, meaning if you're not if someone's not putting lit cigarettes out on you or pulling you and dragging you by your hair,

beating you, it's not recognized as abuse. And I knew it was abuse, and I kept saying it was abuse, and I had thousands of emails over the years, and and and and stalking and harassment and proof and things that would be said to me, You know, your publicist is going to be in the corner crying, I'll have your I'll have your publicist in the corner, crying I'm going to destroy your life, looking over my child's shoulder and laughing in my face, crawling into my bed and

staring at me, me going into Brent's bread to bed to read a story and crawling into a twin bed and saying everything okay, me calling me face timing, and having a person not the child's face, come into the phone and look at you, okay, Are you having a good day? Are you having a good day? But keeping

the phone on. So it seemed if it was ever put in a court of law like we like there was a conversation that happened between my daughter, but it didn't happen between my daughter or me having to call eleven times in a row from from Australia to try to get in touch with my daughter, but and then have the phone answered and make it seem like we had been on the phone and I knew what was going on. It was taunting. It was very targeted harassment, and it wasn't public which was very smart, because if

it's not done publicly, it didn't happen. So in this kid's situation, Kanye is doing it publicly. She has vindication. And I'm sure she went through years and years of different things happening at home that her family saw that they kept under wraps. And I'm sure she had financial ties to him in different reasons and kids that she couldn't leave for, or God knows what was going on. Um. So I have experiences in a very public way, and even now, I'm very very careful about how I discuss it.

Um My daughter's on her computer or phone a lot. It sounds crazy. She's just not a person who googles. She's just not that girl. And I hold back because I don't want her to read about this. But I I go forth in a very measured way because I know that there are thousands of women who have written to me saying that they've experienced this. Now, like Kim Kardashian, who's wealthy, it's hard to imagine that someone could have

a stranglehold on her. He's wealthy too, He's wealthier than she is, but I was the was the moneyed spouse, and I had another I had a partner that wasn't And with all the money and the power and the success that I have, it didn't matter. If someone wants to torture you and torment you, they can, So the laws have to change. And there are so many patterns

you can see it. Parental alienation is one where your child is, you know, going back to you, and the parents says to the child, I know you don't want to go with mom, I know, I know. Don't worry, You'll be back with daddy soon. When you said that to a two year old, that's like hypnotism. They don't know what it means, but it's sort of nuanced and also nuanced in that's the villain. The other parent is the villain. When a parent says about to the child,

mommy's ursula, the mommy's ursula, the witch. She's a good witch. But it's a child, so it's not like a seven year old is gonna say, what are you talking about. It's a two year old. There's like, you know, confused, but that stuff is embedded in them and they remember it and they feel it and it gives them problems later, and they later have serious issues about it, because it all floods in when they become a certain age and at a situation with the pandemic. Were in one shot.

We were all home and anxiety set in, and my daughter did not want to leave me at all, and all of the feelings of things that she had heard from one side and from other family members, poisoning, poisoning about me. It all flooded in at the same time. And it's not that easy to talk to legal professionals about things like this. When your child won't get in a car. Legal professionals get your kid in a car.

That's what the schedule says. Well, the schedule doesn't speak for emotional torture and hives and hyperventilating and things like that. So the only thing I could say for Kim is that it's out, and she's she's away from him. It's out. He's now hopefully been side. He's been silenced for one day by Instagram, and who knows what will happen next. But I can tell you this, these people that do this, and I don't know the Kanye is necessarily one of them.

I'm only watching from the outside in these people that do this, they find pockets. You go through the door. Okay, let me say this about you. Let me talk about the person you're dating. Let me let me torment you about that. Okay, that didn't work. You shut it down. Someone said you're not allowed to do that. Okay. Let me have you followed. Let me have you followed. Let me read all your emails. Let me tell you that I know where you are with that you knowing how? Okay,

Let me try finances. Let me try to forge documents and identity theft so you don't so I can go after your property, but you have to legally go through years and years of steps and millions of dollars to get it back. Okay, that didn't work. Let me try see seeing some once you're in a relationship with day and night. Se see all your friends, you see some in your relationship. Let me try talking about the men. You make these notebooks if this is happening to you,

because patterns. One email is nothing, fifty of them is a pattern. So you make these tabs, it's abuse overall. One tab is on men. Who are you with? What are you doing? Oh? I guess you with another guy? I guessed as in a revolving door. I guess you're a slut. I guess you're this another one. Bad parenting, you're or old, you're ugly, you're old, you're irrelevant, you're disgusting, you're desperate. Okay, that's just general insults. This sounds crazy,

but it's like you're in school with your notebooks. People ask me about the notebooks I had. It's like you have a binder science, math, history. That's what it is. And it's sad, but you you have to take care of yourself if something like this goes on, and you've got to document everything and be organized about it. But more importantly, if you see some ends of this, which I did before, long before I couldn't get out, You

see little signs, little comments. You have a miscarriage, and someone says, because you said afterwards, you're secretly relieved because you didn't think that the relationship was what it was. You're a piece of ship. Someone calls you after a miscarriage. You start to think later, oh, when someone calls you a piece of ship, maybe you should listen. Maybe you should listen and not go deeper and think you imagined it. When you see red flags they're actually red flags. So

lock the door before you get robbed. I can guarantee I will await Kim sit down interview and the book and when she talks and she says that there were a lot of signs of this behavior. But he was charismatic and interesting and wonderful. And yes, I said on Twitter he was a marketing genius, because he is and a marketing genius. And by the way, I don't know him, I do believe he has he has some valid points

about the things that bother him. But you are so so hating your ex more than loving your child if you're playing this out in public, and you're a hypocrite because playing this out in public while saying you don't want your daughter on TikTok, posting your daughter on TikTok on Instagram saying I don't approve of her being on TikTok is moronic. It is it is hypocritical. It is a bag of bullshit. So you can pretend you're the priest, God, the Messiah, and Donald Trump wrapped all up in one.

But I'm calling bullshit. So he may be mentally ill, but somehow he finds a way to be sane when he has to market a product, and somehow he finds a way to be hypocritical when he's posting his kid on Instagram that he doesn't want to TikTok. But the good news is it's out. The judge sees, the court sees, the lawyers see, they are scribbling their notes, they're making tabs, and this man does not have a snowballs chance in

hell of having decision making. And no matter what now, no matter what, even if he doesn't do something wrong forever, because he's done this, no one will give him the benefit of the doubt. It is the boy who cried wolf, like this time, oh there's really a wolf. No one's gonna believe you because for all this time you behave this way. So let's say, you know so, now he's put himself in a corner and she's got all the custody cards and she's got control over those children. So

he made his bed. And you can't geasy your way out of this one. And you can't financially get jo out of this one. Judges make a hundred and something thousand dollars a year. Okay, they don't give a funk about free easies, and they don't give a shit about your new album either. Just Be is hosted by me, Bethany Frankel. Just Be as a production of the real productions I Heart Radio and Blue Duck Media. Are EPs

are Morgan Levois, Antonio Enriquez, and Kara hit. To catch more moments from the show, follow us on Instagram and just Be with Bethany

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