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Mention it All: Reality Reckoning

Aug 15, 202329 minSeason 2Ep. 18
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Headlines don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story. Here is the current breakdown of the Reality Reckoning from the person who started it…

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Mention it all the reality reckoning. So there have been many headlines and stories about this reality reckoning that I started, and people are wondering, why is she doing that? Is she biting the hand that feeds her? She had this platform. Isn't this what everybody signs up for? What is she doing? So I'm going to explain to you the full and real story about what I'm doing and why and how it evolved and how we got here today. So mention

it all the reality reckoning. So I have heard about the writers strike, the actor strike, and I just off the cough posted a video saying why aren't reality stars on strike and that we should have a union because I know that my content is all over the world that I did fifteen years ago, before I ever knew that there would be a peak cockstreamer or any streamers or gifts or memes or anything YouTube clips, social media.

I go to Australia and I'll see my entire body on the back of buses promoting shows for Hey You Australia, which I never even knew existed because it didn't exist. So we signed our lives away, not realizing where it would be distributed for decades to come and people say, well, this is what you sign up for, and it is what we signed up for then, but we did not know what the world would become, and we did not know that there would be streamers. And this is effectively

what actors are fighting for. And people say, oh, well, you guys don't have talent and you're not actors, and that's what people are really paying for. And with the writers and actors strike, now reality stars are being relied upon, just like the last strike, to provide all of the content. So now it's going to be a gold rush for reality talent and they're being exploited without compensation. Now many people sign up for it and are happy to be

treated poorly because they just want the fame. But does that make it right? And many people I've come to learn have horrific stories that are yes, also abusive and illegal, but they're scared because they've ruined their lives and reputations through this medium and the only way to go back and make a living is through this toxic medium. So it's like chasing the dragon, and this medium gets them

back in to constantly try to clear their name. So people say that I'm biting the hand that feeds me by bringing this up, when in fact I fed myself. Andy Cohen didn't want me on the Housewives, and most housewives and reality talent gets discarded by the side of the road and is not successful like I am. I was always an entrepreneur. I was always someone who could figure out a way to make a living. And since being on reality television, I've done hundreds of millions of

dollars in relief work. Without reality televison, I've done an amazing job at making a lot more money and being more successful since reality television. And yes, it did give me a platform, but it gave many people a platform, and no one has had the same experience as I am have, so I created my own success. Yes, they

gave me a platform. Yes I am grateful that I got that platform, but I also fed them because they were able to get a different caliber of talent who all wanted to be successful entrepreneurs since me, I created the model for using it as a vehicle to promote a product, and my product was made fun of in the beginning because of an ugly logo and because of

arguments with other people. It can go both ways. I fought through and I made it successful, but it's definitely a double edged sword, so let's put that to the side. I'm just answering the fact that biting the hand that feeds me. When I made a post saying why don't we have a union, it exploded and everyone agreed with me. I wasn't thinking about anything legal. I didn't know anyone would come out of the woodwork. I was speaking for

myself and saying my content has been exploited. And it made me then think of all the other people who I had heard about who or I've seen whose lives were ruined. People who are on The Bachelor who said something inappropriate that ruins their life and they got paid nothing and they can never get a job again. Or people on The Housewives that are called horrendous names, or whose kids get bullied, or whose businesses get shut down, or who get fired. Those people were exploited and the

episodes still air and they get no compensation. I first thought of my personal experience, because that's what I have, But then I started thinking about all the other people. So all I did was say something, And once I said something, all these people came out of the woodwork, and people who are interviewers were saying to me, do you know how the Supernanny was exploited or Caitlin Bristow was exploited or all these different people. I hadn't even

thought of it. Then my messages were blowing up and all these people were coming out, and I thought, oh my god, Wow, people really have been exploited in ways I didn't even think of. There are examples that I knew of where there was a big cover up by the network on this boat incident that we were on, where it was very dangerous and there were only two life vests and it was definitely a liability, and the production company and the network had meetings and investigations trying

to cover their own ass. Okay, no one died like that was fine. We didn't press charges and nobody would press charges because they all were still part of the machine, still working as part of the machine. And that happened in the Harvey Weinstein scandal. People were still working in the machine and didn't open up their mouths until it became so big that they could not open their mouths.

Gwyneth Paltrow was the first person to give it really credibility from a macro perspective from a very successful, respected actress that really took it to the next level. So people who are making money off of the machine won't speak out again. It happens. It happened in people making money off of opioids, It's happened in many different industries.

It's not like the minute I say something, people are going to give up their fame or their show that's paying them, even if it's not the right pay, or even if they're not being treated right. So now I said something, and people who had been discarded and whose lives had been ruined started reaching out to me. So I thought, oh, but even before that, I went online and said, these are ten terms that I think would be fair. This is before it became illegal practices that

I was being made aware of. I was just saying, these are terms based on compensation for exploitation. It wasn't about illegal practices, it wasn't about abuse. It was just about that this group of people risk their jobs, their reputations, and here are terms. So of course no one's going to respond to my terms. Of course, Bravo or a network isn't going to reach out to me and say, hey, well, respond to your terms. They don't need to. And I

saw them get noticeably more silent. And I saw Andy Cohen and watch What Happens Live be a little more sensitive and a little more watered down and sanitized. And I watched people get nervous. But to what end? I reached out to one lawyer because I wanted someone to sort of write up in a formalized way what I had voiced in these ten terms that I did on TikTok and Instagram. I wanted there to be a reason

that a network would respond. So in other words, people won't usually respond unless they get a legal letter than they're required to respond. So I wanted a lawyer to memorialize a jumping off point with these terms that I set on social media to send to networks, so that they would possibly respond like to send to like a Bravo and they would respond to my terms as a jumping off point and say, this is a good idea.

We do agree with you. People are being utilized and exploited and we're using their content and we've never given them a dime of the merchandise, and we've said that the Bethany clause means we take a piece of their business to the end of time, and I just wanted something in writing. But what happened was when this lawyer got involved and I had all of these people who had started reaching out to me about different forms of

abuse and workplace violations, it opened Pandora's box. The lawyer couldn't believe the influx of complaints and abuse, so then they the lawyer, Brian Friedman, brought on another lawyer, Garrigos, Mark Garrigos, who has represented many people in different class action lawsuits. So Brian Friedman has represented many people wronged in entertainment lawsuits, like whether it's Gabrielle Union or they rep and Megan Kelly, and Mark Arragos has represented other people.

And many of you will have a problem with some of the people that they've represented. You may hate it, but they are lawyers and they represent that's their job. They represent different types of cases. It doesn't mean that they're not good lawyers. It doesn't mean that they're bad people.

You are just saying that you don't like some of the people that they've represented, which is fair, But that has nothing to do with the fact that the two of these powerhouse lawyers got involved because there were valid

cases here. So now it became something bigger. So they announced a big statement and they put Bravo on notice, an NBC, which is one hundred and eighty million dollar company, they put them on notice saying, hold all this footage, hold all this documentation, because these are things that we as lawyers have found. This is not my lawsuit. This is not Bethany suing anyone. This is not Bethany saying that anything happened to her. So this was just opening

Pandora's box. The person who recommended me and referred me to these lawyers, to Brian Friedman, are want the most powerful people in Hollywood, because Hollywood noticed, and even the entertainment industry and agencies, those people that represent many of these reality people, many of the production companies, many of

the people. They recommended me to these lawyers because they agreed with me that there should be a union and that the exploitation is that this business is fraught with exploitation. So think about that. The very people that make a percentage off of the production companies and the talent in this multi now billion dollar sphere of reality television recommended me to these lawyers because they know that there needs to be an end to this exploitation, that the line

has been crossed. So they also agreed that there should be some sort of a union. So on a parallel path from all of these lawsuits and Bravo being put on notice, we get the SAG after a union reaches out to me and agrees that there's been exploitation and agrees that NBC and Bravo have been exploiting talent and that they want to work towards fair practices for this talent. Many of this talent that wants to stay there right

now because they want to make the money. They need the income, and they don't want to bite the hand that is currently feeding them. So those people who won't speak up, as much as it would be courageous for them to speak up, I understand why they won't publicly

speak up because they want to make money. So when people, when other members of the Housewives franchise come out in defense saying I'm biting the hand feed that fed me and why would I do this A they're being pushed forward by Bravo PR because the Bravo PR machine is on full tilt now because there's a massive, massive literary piece coming out in a credible publication in a few months. This is a credible publication and there are major, major

pieces coming out. So the Bravo pr machine is at work, and they want to get some of their successful workhorses that are currently employed by them to say things like Bethany's biting the hand that fed her. That's ridiculous. Yes, this medium was good to me. Yes, this vehicle paid me. I did not know about a lot of these violations. And I did not know about this stuff because I'm a smart person that would have never tolerated this. And I had a lot of power because I brought in ratings,

because when I left Bravo, the ratings dropped them. When I came back, they went back to where they were, to the tune of about a million and a half years. So Bravo is not going to mess around with me, nor is a production company. But there are weaker talent that have been discarded, and the way that they go back every year is because in their personal lives, their real lives, their reputation has been destroyed. They have nowhere

else to go. And the way that Bravo gets talent to come back every year, and the production companies get talent to come back every year after they've been abused and discarded is by saying to them, you get to change the narrative. You get to come back this time and you get to set the record straight. So they beat you down and then they they're saying, you get to build yourself back up. Because the name of the game of this forum of reality television is I've always

said it's a zero sum game. Someone is always winning and someone is always losing. So if you're winning, you're on top of the world making all this money. So there's a recent pr thing saying that I pitched a show to Bravo a few months ago, and all of a sudden, now I'm realizing the grotesque and horrible treatment, the brutal treatment. The facts are because page six posts something that they just heard and just throw it up.

It doesn't matter tomorrow they can post something different. The facts are, and I have all the receipts and my lawyers have all the receipts that over. About two years ago, I was in Nantucket and I pitched a project to a production company called Pop. A man named Matt Anderson he worked on He produced Miami Real Housewives, Atlanta and married to medicine, and I pitched him on Bethany. The next chapter, me being in Connecticut and the people around me.

I had spoken to Andy Cohen and pitched it to him. He loved it. We did a beach walk. He loved it. And Bravo was interested in and Bravo basically said to Matt at pop, go flush us out, go develop it. So they started sending me women to be around me, and only one hundred times did I say to them, I don't want this to be a housewives. I don't like that culture. This has to be anything but housewives. I don't want this to be housewives. They kept saying to me, it will not be housewives, but lo and

behold they were casting all these different women. We kept flushing it out. I was producing it. It was my concept. It also involved this podcast narrating it. And it was this whole concept that started between eighteen months and two

years ago. I have every receipt from my lawyers. We were about to be at the signing point, like in April and May, and I had been punting it so much so that the production company kept saying that I had been punting it, and my lawyers didn't like the production company's practices because they had been casting people and developing the show, and they they wouldn't give us the

materials that they had been casting. And it was my concept that I pitched them about a group of people in Connecticut who was I surrounding myself with in my next chapter in Connecticut. But the types of women they were casting made me worry that it was getting a little housewivesy, and they've produced a lot of housewives and I started getting cagy and didn't want to do it.

Someone reached out to me from the Bravo sphere and said to me that the production company Pop and Matt Anderson, my partners, had produced Married to Medicine, and that they had allegedly stolen the show Married to Medicine from a cast member. I don't know who the cast member is. I don't know the story, but they had been stealing.

They had stolen the show allegedly, and things that had been going on in the interaction and in the deal negotiating between myself and this production company were making me feel worried that they were going to try to do this Connecticut ensemble show without me, which was a concept that I pitched Andy that I pitched them, and they were to try to get cute and figure out another way to do it and call it something different, but still do it in Connecticut because they had spent time

and money flushing it out, and I didn't like the way it felt, and it really was like bullseye. I felt like they were going to steal the show. And this other person said to me, while they stole Married to Medicine. And then I found out that it resulted in a massive lawsuit and a settlement. So I called my lawyer at Grubman and said, I don't want to do it, pull the plug on the show. I just don't want to do it. So that was in like

April May. So today page six was trying to paint a picture where like just months ago, I was pitching a show about Connecticut and all of a sudden, now I think the practices are grotesque. I was pitching a show eighteen months two years ago, and now it was getting to contract stage and this production company was really selling it to Bravo, and I pulled the plug at the last minute. And I believe they're probably still trying to do it. And this is the production company that

was in a conflict about stealing a show. So that's what that latest page six is about. And that's why it's great to have your own voice, your own platform, your own podcast, because I get to flush this all out. Now you're seeing Bravo scramble and water things down and wash things down by different articles. Like I said of House, I've saying I'm biting the hand that feeds me, and people pitching this story about I was pitching Bravo and isn't that convenient? But what's really going on is they

are very nervous. There are sub lawsuits going on as well. The Morocco Ultimate Girls Trip is also currently a big source of conflict for Bravo. Brandy Glanville and Carolyn both have two sides to the story about an alleged sexual assault. Brandy has information about herself being told to act a certain way. Caroline also has taken up legal representation. There are two sides to that story, and Bravo has coincidentally just completely shelved that project. In addition, Watch What Happens

Live has become very watered down. It seems like Bravo is on full alert and they have been extremely responsive and nervous about this pending lawsuit from many people in the Bravo sphere via these lawyers that I brought in about a union at about residuals. So Pandora's box has been opened as far as the union goes. I have a very important meeting this week with the union and that should move forward to hopefully protect these people. So there's a lot swirling. I just wanted to say to

you directly. Oh. In addition, people have been speculating why am I doing this? Am I starting my own network? Am I representing talent? The answer is no. I literally, off the cuff, made a comment about the fact that reality stars should be part of a union because of

exploitation without compensation. That evolved into terms that I thought would be fair, which evolved into a big Hollywood, big way giving me the name of a lawyer to try to get a response on those terms, which evolved into probably over one hundred reality stars reaching out to me about them being violated, abused, and exploited without compensation, ruining their lives. It evolved into a lawsuit from many of the Bravo talent exposing practices that I did not realize.

Bravo was complicit in. And I would like you to know that I've known Andy Cohen for years and we always have been colleagues. Now, I was one of his favorites as a housewife, and he always enjoyed me, and I always enjoyed him. But we weren't quote unquot good friends. And I mean that to say that I met his

son once or twice. Every time he's come over my house where I've come over his, we've been talking about the industry and the business and housewives, and we've both always had an agenda in the relationship with one another. I have never really clearly been able to view him and his business practices without him being in some sort of employer adjacent role, meaning he's not my direct employer.

But there have been projects that I've pitched him. There have been negotiations that I've done with him about being on the Housewives, about coming back to the Housewives, about different projects that he's pitched me, and that I've pitched him about what I come back for Ultimate Girls trip. I always had a foot in that door. So my relationship with Andy was connected to business at all times.

From the minute I met him. It was always connected to business, but it was some of the I knew through business who I was also friendly with when I left the Housewives, and I had the highest rated series premiere in Bravo history for my spinoff. I was invited to his Christmas party, but only one time in one year, and I've never been invited back. So when you say everyone thought we were really good friends, we were friendly, but we were show business friends. We were colleagues, and

we both always had an agenda. And there's been a dance. And when I came out with Rewives, it's the first time that I saw him publicly speak out against it, which was ludicrous because Rewives is about is a podcast about a machine that I helped to create, and I don't exploit that. I'm not exploiting those people. Some people have said, oh, why would I keep my rewives podcast when I'm in the middle of this big reality reckoning. I'm not telling people to watch the episodes. I'm not

trashing anyone, I'm not exploiting anyone. I'm simply using a show as a vehicle to talk about human issues with non Bravo talent. So that's asked an answered. Everyone's trying to come for me with some sort of agenda based thing, and I'm right here, you can ask me any questions.

So Andy publicly denounced Rewives, and then it backfired on him because it was in every publication for weeks and my podcast Rewives went into the top five and has been an outrageous success to the tune of millions of downloads. So that backfired so much so that they asked me to come on watch What Happens Live. When Watch What Happens Live hadn't wanted me to be on, but the fans were asking so much about it that they had

me go on. I thought we were going on in a normal, friendly capacity, so I went on there and the public spoke there was an ambush. My daughter was with me. She was really sad, to be honest, it really hurt her. She thought we were going on to be on a show, and she was like, why were they so mean to you? And truthfully, I believe that I kept the peace there and I went onto that show and allowed myself to be ambushed because the door was still a little bit always open. Would I ever

go back? And why burn a bridge and shut a door even though you know you're not going back? Why scorch that kingdom if you know you might go back. What if everything goes to shitt and you just want the paycheck for going on one of those trips or

something that you've been invited on. And now I'm at a point where like, no, there's no number to put me on one of those trips because I didn't realize a lot of behind the scenes, I really have noticed that it's evolved into being something disgusting and toxic that I was fully part of. I admit that I was part of it. I was part of the machine. I was the golden child, the shining example of the machine. I'm

not hiding behind any of my ayes. I've said negative things to people on the show, et cetera, And the truth is I don't hold any of the people accountable on the shows. That's what they were trained to do. If you ever saw Game of Thrones, the Unsullied are

trained warriors. Whether it doesn't matter whether it's Erica Jane or Lisa Rinna or Luanne de les Seppe or Kelly Bensimone or Bethany Frankel or Ramona Singer, all of these people have been seen doing horrible things on these shows that they haven't been seen doing off those shows for many of these cases, because they are trained for ratings. What are the people on vander Pump Rules trained for ratings? You do something bad, and you do something negative, you

are rewarded for that behavior. You fall off the wagon, the cameras fly in, you get a divorce, yay, you go bankrupt, wonderful, You're going to jail. Bring the cameras in. The line has gotten blurred from when I started, and

diff diferent things were what was focused on. The more that this medium, in this genre has celebrated things that are terrible, the more they've made more and more money for honoring and highlighting workplace violations, emotional abuse, sexual exploitation, and we just keep digesting it because it's what keeps being served to us, and no one has stopped it.

And I understand it's ratings. What happened on vander Pump's Rules when they got up to like millions of viewers for what for a cheating scandal on a show fueled by alcohol with bartenders and band members, none of them that are married, and an affair became the biggest thing, and somebody won and somebody lost and the worse it gets, the better it is for the pockets of Bravo. So at some point the music will have to stop, you know, because people and you will say, they signed up for this,

they signed up for this. Okay, these people signed up for it. They signed up for what they didn't even know. And every year they're rewarded for bad behavior, and every year, the deeper they get into it, they can't work anywhere else. They've ruined their reputation. Housewives are women in their fifties and sixties who often do terrible things. They can't work

anywhere else, they've ruined their reputations. And yes they got a second chance, and yes they weren't in the workforce, and it's amazing that they were able to make money, but it's not something that's widely respected. It's something that is compensated. But like Porner, it's not widely respected. So this world of salacious reality television has definitely pushed the envelope, and myself included and many of you. Things will develop.

You're going to see things you did not know. You're going to see things more clearly and start to think about what you're consuming and how dirty you felt after consuming it because the football keeps moving, and these shows are not designed for conflict resolution. They're designed for conflict conflict, and they're not designed to punish someone if they do something wrong. So this has not been something that was

like a grand plan. I opened up Pandora's box and now I can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. And I'm on this path, and it's definitely slightly scary, like in the back of my mind, because things like this, you will during times like this, you will make enemies and it won't be popular. And the sheep are definitely not gonna like when someone breaks out, especially someone who is so successful. But I have a beautiful daughter to think about what she consumes in her future. I have

a good relationship, I have a very successful business. I have a thriving bank account, and I don't have to put up with things that I don't think are right for other people in society. And I get to be cause driven and it doesn't matter if people hate me or cancel me, because I'm okay. Nobody has anything that I want. It's why I have my own YouTube series content to the people. It's why I don't go back to network television. I don't want someone else controlling my content.

My story, my life, and my YouTube series and my podcast get more views and listens and more downloads than network television now. So people have the freedom to use their voice, and it takes courage. So I'm mentioning it all and not letting all these little choppy publications decide to tell you the story. That's the true story, that's the mention it all story, and it is still developing and you're going to see a lot of explosive things coming out that are going to surprise you, and it's

going to be something different every day, every week. So I wanted to frame this entire story ahead of time so you know it all from here and it will evolve and it will change. Thank you for listening. Stay tuned for more

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