Just B Rants: My Podcast, My Choice

many areas of the world. And he sometimes it's like my dad who sends me articles on things, you know how like a dad sends a college student because she's not paying attention to anything news that's going on. So Paul will send me articles about things, and you know, he's like, he's like he's got the dad vibe in that way. So he said, you have to do a rewatch about housewives. I was like, what's a rewatch? So

I didn't even know that this was a world. This is a while back, had to be almost a year ago, he said, yeah, And I don't remember, but I think like it was Scrubs or One Tree Hill. And then I asked the people my heart and they said Gilmore girls and these are all super successful. And I said well, and I didn't say woll. But I didn't think anything. And I didn't care because it didn't apply to me. And I thought, he said, you have to do this

for housewives. He said, you're he said, I'm not saying this. He said, and his family's really good friends with the owners of the Patriots. He said, we want to hear Tom Brady breakdown the game. And I thought, okay. And so because he kept saying it was such a good idea, um, and because I don't like if I have a good idea in my hands, that someone else is going to do it and they're going to do it out as well.

So I thought someone's going to do this. But I thought it seemed intriguing, and I was toying around with the idea of doing it, and I thought about what other would I ever do with another housewife and who would it be? UM shout out to Caroline Manzo. If I ever did this with another housewife, it would have been Caroline Manzo. There was a moment that I thought, oh, I do something like this with Kathy Hilton, because she's sort of the matriarch um. She's got a lot of

heat on her. I liked that Caroline, and I love Kathy, but I liked that Caroline was out of the frying pan. She also chose to leave. There are very few housewives that have chosen to leave. People can market it, and you see in the press, I don't want this anymore. And then they're running back. And I know housewives very well that have said, if I ever get fired, I'll just walk away and I'll never think about it again. And they just can't help it. They wanted back. It

bothers him. It's like someone that broke up with them. It's crazy. But Caroline left. I don't think she's the right person for this, even though I like her. But Denise left all so so I was thinking about people who had left. It just wasn't sitting with me as the right move for the show. I just didn't want I would just be dragged down into talking two housewives a bad housewives, and I just didn't want to do that. So I thought about, do I even need to do this?

In my publicist Jill Fritzo, who happens to represent Denise Richards or she used to and um, she used to represent Lisa Rinna, And she said, what are you doing? Like we've rinsed this whole thing, what are you going back in for? And I thought, I guess like I don't like it. So I thought I was all my good ideas are from between sleep and wake. And I thought, I want to talk to people that I just that are unexpected. I like to do things in a new way.

Me talking to a housewife about the housewives is not interesting, it's boring. It hasn't even been done. But and I would do better than anyone, but it's just not what I want to do. So when I thought of, oh my god, let me talk to really smart people, successful people icons in their own right, really famous celebrities, just like my own version of this, my own decision about who I want to talk to, like that made it seem intriguing. So then I started thinking, I pitcheck. I

probably got some major people to do this. I mean, I have a good reputation, I have a good relationship with people in media and entertainment. I've developed this. Relationships in business take years to create, you know, just it's it's trust, it's people knowing your revolt and that you're not going to the low hanging fruit. And I don't know. I just I have I in my mind always can see how it's going to go. So that's how the real that's when I woke up. That's when I called

I Hardes said I'll do it in this way. This is a way to do it, and to be honest, it seemed like the right thing to do. It just felt like this is my alma mater, this is something that's part of my d n A. This is something that is embedded in my history. I cannot run around with mny as you. As Paul says, you danced with the one who brang you. I didn't. Jill Fritzo, my publicist, is the first person who kind of said, do you want to go back into that trash heap? And I thought, wow,

I didn't even think about that. I really didn't. Sometimes I don't think about the most obvious things. So we decided to do it. I knew I heard thought was gonna be a huge hit. I knew it was going to be a huge hit. I now this will be my third in a slate on my heart. So when we were doing the release, you know, Jill was pretty silent. My publicist. She wasn't like involved, and it invested in it. She gets lit when things when she understands where they're

going and what they are. She doesn't get lit before. She doesn't understand all these things until they really happened. I could see it. So we launched, and then I realized I have to start really articulating why I'm doing this. Because we launched and announced, it's announcing People magazine. Dave Quinn writes the story. Dave Quinn is person who wrote a Housewives book but I did not contribute to. And I didn't contribute to it because I thought it was

celebrating a culture where women are trashing other women. So now I'm talking to Dave Quinn, the same person who wrote the Housewives book that I didn't participate in because I think it's a culture of women trashing other women. And now I am going back in and talking about this culture. And people thought that that was very few people, only people who talk about housewives and were annoyed someone else was coming into their space, by the way, not Dave Quinn. He had He was not annoyed at all.

He likes me. We have a good relationship. But people, the people that really were annoyed, or people that are talking about the Housewives in their space or are threatened by it, or are worried, and they were. There was a very small group that, of course you always here the negative small comments that were saying, well, you know, she trashes this space, and I wants to walk in and talk about it, right, Yeah, I left, Hi, everybody,

I'm over here. I left. I left the Housewives because I didn't like what it represented in society in my life. I didn't want to be in that conversation. Hi, everybody, I'm still over here. I was on the Housewives. It was my beginning of my trajectory. In fact, The Housewives is very much a part of my success. Also, in fact, I am very much a part of The Housewives success. I mean literally. Dorry Kemsley's husband p K at Trippriani on the same night that we were out with uh Boy.

George said, part of the reason Dorry did it is she wants to go on. We want quote unquote, we want her to go on and do what you did. Matt Anderson, who cast The Miami Housewives, was interviewing a bunch of different Housewives that had been cast and talking about the next season, and they said to him, Oh, we want to do what she did. I mean, this is not news. I was the first of many's, the first of liquor brands, the first of books, the first

of photo shoots, the first New York Times bestseller. Many people may or may not know that, but it is. I'm sorry, but it's true. So we have helped each other, Bravo and I. And whether Bravo likes this or not because I'm coming in to their space or the Bravo sphere, I'm it's part. It's part of my life. And as Paul said, you gotta dance with the one who brang yet and maybe or maybe not, as Paul said, they want to hear uh the courter former quarterback break down

the game. So, but here's the biggest part that I realized through talking about why I'm doing this. You could have memories of yours that may not have always been pleasant. You could have experiences and relationships that you don't want

to be in anymore. You could have a high school boyfriend that cheated on you, but you also laughed with that person, or went to a carnival or threw up on yourself, you know, in a movie theater, and you're still gonna tell that story because it's part of your story. So reality TV has represented a quarter of my lifetime. So yeah, The Housewives was a part of that. So now I'm over here, having left the Housewives, walked away

from millions of dollars, walked out on my terms. One of the few that actually did walk out that doesn't want to go back, has said they don't want to go back and is welcome to come back, or has been welcome to come back maybe before this podcast, but has had an open door to come back at any time. And now I'm over here with that experience and that rear view, and now I want to talk about it. What was going on, what was going on in front of the camera, in my body away from the camera,

break in the fourth wall. The genre has changed. People's lives have changed, people's homes have changed, people's faces have changed, people's marriages have changed, people's financial situations have changed, that characters have changed. So I have institutional knowledge about this experience and I want to share it. I find it amusing to sit down with Elizabeth Moss and talk about scary island. That's ridiculous. That's something you'd never even dream of.

I chose to talk to Jerry Springer about the most Jerry Springer like Jersey Housewives episode ever. It's not a trash fest. That's so easy. I could trash anybody I want every day on social media, on you know, in in shitty publications. It's not a trash fest. It's a it's a retrospective. It's a discussion on my terms. I'm producing this. I'm deciding who I'm talking to about this and how we're talking about it, and what we're talking

about in which episodes. And part of what I will talk about is how we had no control on the Housewives none. You could be Cavy Hilton, you could be a billionaire. You have no control of what they're was pulling out of that oven. Unlike the Kardashians, they control what comes out of that oven. Housewives have no control

of what comes out of that oven. Literally, I have cast people on The Housewives show, and two days before filming starts, let's say a week before filming starts, I wasn't even told that the person that I cast is going to be on the cast. It's the land of being blindsided, whether it's to some onw knowing Melissa is gonna be on the cast or anything. It's just the land of not being in control. Actors become producers and

directors because they want control. They're just puppets. They we think they're so famous and they're amazing, and it looks great because they're in front of the camera smiling. They're still the puppets, which is why they want to get in control. So they want to be directing, directing episodes hopefully that they can also act in. They have way

more control than a housewife. A housewife has no idea how they've been portrayed, has no idea how happy a producer is that they that they are, that they fell off the wagon. Have no idea how great it is for television that they have been cheated on that's good story. Have no idea that someone that they despise might be a cast member. Like it's the land of land mines and being blindsided. This is my podcast called Rewives. It's

my rewatching the wives. So for anybody who's confused and the Bravo sphere or the popular culture sphere about why I'm going awkwards, I'm going forward, my body, my choice, my podcast, my choice, my discussion, my choice. I hate doing it. I can stop doing it. I'll call it her and be like, I don't want to do it anymore. I love doing it. I can do an episode every goddamn day. My choice, my podcast, my choice, like everything else I do in business,