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Desperate Housewives

Aug 11, 202213 minSeason 1Ep. 158
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If you’re known for being a "Housewife," what happens to your ego if you get divorced? 

Bethenny gives her list of the Housewives that lost themselves in their divorces. And, what we can learn from them, Ivana Trump and Princess Diana. 

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So I've been thinking about all the housewives and how many of them had an identity connected to their marriage. How Sonya was married to a Morgan hall Awayne was married to account how um Dorinda was married to somebody who had political ties and he passed away. And uh,

Camille Grammar was married to Kelsey Grammar. And women's identities being tied to men, and then had they break through and break free afterwards or don't or hang onto it and think about it and are just constantly in the shadow of their former life, and they they're chasing the dragon and wishing they still had that life. And I was thinking about Avanna who died, and it's just just falling down those tragic stairs, hitting her head, blunt force trauma.

Those scares were the stairs were scary. I'm sure maybe she was medicating. She was home for two years. It just you know. And I watched this documentary on her and Trump. I didn't realize that because of her connections as a model and being international and being in New York, that she kind of brought him into those circles. Happens

a lot. I know other people where one member of the couple has the money and the other one has sort of the the panash, either the street cred or the social status, and the combination can be very strong. And it seems like he signed up for a wife and she really elevated and helped him, and he wouldn't be on the appartisan wouldn't have been the president without him. But then she also became like a business partner, so

they probably were only talking about business. And we saw that Gucci story where the wife like started being a powerful figure and getting strong and and and not that the male figure doesn't always want that. If you watch The Crown. Uh and by the way, tough shit. I'm not saying, I'm just talking about it. If you watch The Crown, how it seems to have bothered Charles that Diana was the sparkly favorite, right, so now Ivanna is

this darling? And now their partners, and they were on I think it was Oprah And someone asked Trump, I think it was Oprah, I really do. Who said, well, does Ivanna get paid? And he said she could buy as many dresses as she wants, and apparently gutted her because she felt like an equal and she was smart and she was shrewd. So they get divorced. And I'm not saying that it's all his fault because they probably

and she had a shitty prenup. Uh, they get divorced, and you know, he signed up to have her be a plus one. She was a model and beautiful, and he liked all the panels she gave him. But he wanted her to stay in her place, and she wanted to be an equal business partner, and he didn't want a business partner. He wanted a wife. And they both sort of agree on the whole entire thing. She says,

don't get magget everything. She didn't get everything. She got like ten million dollars and she had a shitty prenup, and it seems like she's always been a bit scorned by it, like that ruined her. I know women that that that divorce really fucking gut punches them. You know, Sonya has been public on the show like that divorce

really really fucking gut punched her. And I just think it's interesting women whose identities are attached to their husbands and then their marriages and their status, and then they get divorced and the afterlife and some people really move forward, break through and shine, and some people get stuck and pulled back, and it's very sad. We hear a lot about Megan and Harry in the media. I want to know.

I was talking to Paul. I was saying to Paul, did Megan and Harry, like, if we're playing a game, like if we're playing tennis, did they are they up right now? They're in the casino? They up right now? Meaning like, let's say they just stayed in the Royal Family and we're miserable and we get that they wanted

to get out and all of that. Let's just say that Megan and Harry stayed in the Royal Family and we felt about them the way we feel about Kate and Will and they're they're okay, So let's take that score. Then they leave UK, you know, and and and the Daily Mail and the New York Post and and a lot of the media can't stand them. No matter what happens.

She goes to visit victims, they all think it's a photo up anything she does, whereas the privacy they do a big, massive, multi kajillion dollar deal at Netflix, and she's telling Bob Iger who wants to be in a movie, and and Harry's pitching her for you know, the voice of some Disney character and anything they do, it seems you know, they go to the they go to the Queen's jubilee, but they sit they sit several rose back. That's wrong, that's right. That you know, it's up and

down with everyone. You know, Harper's bizarre and the liberal media will say, you know, it's wonderful. Then the Post and and and the Daily Mail and Page six and the UK publications you she's the devil incarnate. So and of course this is new, like this isn't like Willis Simpson and the Duke of Windsor where you found out you know where it took a long time and that was many years ago. Have these two one or not? They're on the outs with them, Victoria Beckham and David Beckham.

That doesn't seem great. When she was having her bridal shower and giving everybody away suitcases and got in trouble for being at the Carlisle having you know, giving people a hundred thousand dollar gifts, then she got in trouble. And when she was like had a no more Zara party, she got in trouble. So she was always a little in trouble. And my question is net net what's the score? Remember when she was hanging out with a moll and George. They don't seem to be part of this. David Beckham

and Victoria don't seem to be part of this. So what's the net net score? I just want to know, like was it? Because they they're in big business now and they're doing a lot. They don't have the security anymore. Uh. They did the Oprah interview that didn't seem to be that great of an idea in the aggregate in my opinion, for family matters. So all in did they Are they up in the casino or they down? Like are they trying to win back chips? Or they're up? And it's

just gravy. I just want you to tell me if Megan and Harry Marry are up or down, doesn't matter, it's it's literally pertinent to nothing. I just want to know because I was talking about it, and I come to you when I want to talk about it. Okay.

So I went to my fiance's birthday party that his parents threw him in Nantucket and there were women that were in their fifties and they were very I rate about the Kardashians just as a concept in general, like just as it going on and on and never are ending. And they were irate at and a win tour for like playing in this social media space, you know, like they felt that it was sort of a sellout for

everything that she had stood for and represented. And they they thought that people like Ellen Degenerous, who are BFFs with the Kardashians and Christi Jennera that like, these are people that can't can't fight the funk. They weren't initially close with this group, but you can't ignore the numbers, that the numbers don't lie, and that basically everybody can be bought. There saying that every you know, bartenders to get a good job, they look at their social media followings.

Like if you're not performing from a social media standpoint, then you have a much it's so sad, you have a much um fewer, a much lesser possibility of getting a job, job, or being in a magazine or probably even being on a television show. Think about it. You want to work, you want to get a play on Broadway, They're going to take the person who has a higher

social media following. You want to do a TV show, same story, you want to work at a bar, you want to work at a restaurant, you want to work at a magazine, you want to work at an insurance company. Why wouldn't the place take the person with the greater social media numbers? And is that right or is that wrong? You know, people were pissed that Addison Ray and like the Demilias were at the met Ball because isn't it supposed to be super exclusive? And while I'm at at

people are getting pissed that all over TikTok. So many people have access to these luxury brands that used to have these very bespoke, private special handbags and only certain people could get and now um everyone has access to them there more and and I saw an article today with a girl saying, that's not what the luxury brands want.

They don't want all of these TikTok influencers talking about how you get a bag, how the system works, like Arams has a system that you know won't share because I'm not gonna do that, but that they have a special system as to how you get coveted items and they are an elevated brand and they don't want TikTok

talking about that all the time. In addition, I bet these brands are not thrilled about all over social media people buying fakes bags, talking about them, saying where they get them, and you can actually buy them through social media. I'm floored. It's crazy, like Canal Street is on social media.

So what does that do for value of items? Does that increase the value of your luxury items because more people are talking about them, want them know about them, or being educated on them, or does it decrease the

value because they're not as bespoke and unique. And I remember years ago when Chanelle all the girls on the Hills were wearing Chanel bags and I was thinking, is that good because so many people are watching and then they're going to go in and buy the little makeup bags and the non difficult bags to get, or is that bad because it makes it more accessible. I literally don't know. I think there'd be there could be a

business class on that. I think it's fascinating and I think, um, I think these brands are doing a decent job navigating that. To be honest, I am I am an air Mes fan. I think it is high quality. I think it is very expensive, but it's one of the expensive brands where the quality of the item it will outlive you. Chanelle has high quality leather, and there are items that you

could have there there will also outlive you. And also people go by the fake ease and then you buy a fakey and what are you gonna do with that? You want to get rid of it, what are you gonna You're not gonna resell it, what are you're gonna do? Give it to give it to somebody? Like then you're giving away fake And they call it dupes now, And I hate that word so much. I hate the word dupe because it means knockoff. It means sort of fake, and it means that the originator isn't getting like the

person in the company that's copying the original. It could be in makeup, it could be in bags. It's all over Amazon. The company copying the original is getting all the credit for making a dupe of something that was an original. And listen, I was a victim of Cheetah brands, of the Skinny Girl, Margharita. It was copied. It's unnecessary evil. But I don't talk about quote unquote dupes on the beauty space, on my beauty Reviews, on TikTok because I

think it's disrespecting the originator. I don't love every single makeup that Charlotte Tilbury has done, but I respect that she's been the first and that she's an inventor and she's the originator. So I'm not running around promoting copycats of hers. Doesn't mean that other people can't do a similar color of something. I mean that does happen to inspired by, but it just means a complete knockoff. I don't know. It never it's right with me, It never sits right. But but but but it's it's a fraud

because I'm sitting on a couch right now. That is you know, it's the it's the Anna wind Tours speech in Devilware's product. To be honest, I'm sitting on a couch right now where Miranda Priestley Miranda Priestle's speech by by Meryl Street. I'm sitting at a couch. It's like a linen. It's somewhat looks like a slipcover. It's probably

inspired by a restoration hardware. I don't think it's a dupe, but I'm sure that the reason this couch was designed was because of restoration hardware, so we're all part of it. I guess it's just calling things a complete exact knock off. Maybe that loves me the wrong way, and I don't know. What do you think

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