Cheryl Hines

You're right. And I wasn't sure that you would remember that. But it's funny because I remember meeting you and I and I can't remember much. I don't have a great memory, but I remember meeting you. I was sitting with Timothy Hutton and we were like in one of the lounge areas that they set up and and you. I just remember that you were working. You were like working, and I I remember thinking, wow, you are a ah. You

were so driven even then. And I looked around and everybody else's like, we're all lounging, we're talking about films, and I think you were you working with a chef for a well, that's funny because I'm reminded of this right now. So I was at Sundance, I guess, just because I was at Park City. I don't think I

was at Sundance per se. I don't remember, Like I had no reason I would be there, and I met I went one night, someone took me to this thing called Chef Dance, where you sat in these booths and each night a different chef came and did this whole meal. And I had gone to culinary school and wanted to be a chef so badly, or a TV chef or

some version of a chef. And so I finagled the guy Ken and his wife Mimi, who ran this thing, which was like a little thing, to let me host it the next year by like calling restaurants all over the country and getting them to do it and getting paid nothing, just to be able to like be in that room and connect with people like you. I mean, everybody came. Kardashian came through there. Everybody came through there, not even really understanding what it was, like, Wait, why

are we here? Why is there a free five course meal from this amazing chef? And we built it up to be pretty big, but it wasn't something I ever made money off of. It just was something I was like, you know, they were using me what passionate about? I was passionate about. So many times I do things and I just keep moving forward. I don't even know what I'm even doing, but that was one of them. I

just loved it. I love the concept, and the food was great, and it got me to like connect the chefs that I looked up to on television and in restaurants and so that's where you were. But I forgot about that moment in my life, and um, it was very important to me, and it was I just found a way to get myself to be able to go to sundance and snowboard a little and and eat amazing food and meet interesting people. So well, it's funny because that's my memory of it. I don't even I can't

tell you what what I did. I can't tell you what you were. I don't remember anyway what you were talking about or what it was. But I was like, oh, yeah, Bethany, I'm I want to be a part of this because I I like you and I felt connected to you, and I felt like, Okay, I'm on board with whatever you're doing, let's let me see what you what's going on.

So that was my introduction to you. And it's been really fun to watch you, you know, from Afar through the years, like man, you're a freaking mover and shaker and it's inspirational and it's really fun to watch well likewise and um, you never know how someone perceives you in that way from Afar, like you know, cousins in this weird entertainment in the street, but I've only seen each other once. But so for me with you, you are an actress who was in that movie the Waitress.

You're married, You were in your on Curb your enthusiasm and funny, but did not not would never thought about whether you were a comedian first because the waitress was like a different type of role and so didn't think about your career. Just know that you're a person that I know of, that I've watched Curb your in that enthusiasm for years, and that you have your funny, um and talented and married to a Kennedy. So that, you know, is another little little thing that shiny that jumps off

the page. But not until I went through all this press and bios about you did I know anything? So I took classes at the Groundlings and and you went to the Groundlings, did you make it through the ranks as because I never did, like where I was up on stage actually performing. Were you a groundling? I was

a groundling. I was a groundling. And you're right, it's a you know, it's a little theater in l A that does improv and sketch comedy and and you have to go through a whole school and then you have to be invited to be a cast member. So it was a big deal for me, and it was it was great training. I mean, did you have a good experience there or so? Yeah, So it's funny that you say that. A couple of places I went in my life.

I went to school to the school um the Meisner place in the Valley, and I found that to be very interesting versus years ago taking method acting classes, which I found very trapping and and and for anyone listening the method from from my perspective is like you have to really go back and feel the feeling that like when your leg broke at twelve and and I was

frustrating and it just didn't click with me. And Sam from Meisner was like, you gotta like listen to the person and and just act as you just instinctively would. And that kind of spoke to me and the Groundlings. Also in my life, I took different comedy classes and I never loved them. I loved the Groundlings because it felt free, just felt free. There were rules and it was structured, but it felt free, and it did feel

like a big deal. And I always felt like a sort of a failure that I didn't stay and I was a little afraid to get on and do get up to the point where those people were up there. I took probably took it for a couple of years, maybe too Michael McDonald, who's a real comedian, and people were like, really, I see them on commercials and movies now, but I'm impressed by that, And people should be impressed by that, because that was something that was was a

big deal, Like that was hard. I think, yeah, it is hard because you have to retrain your mind, especially probably for someone like you who seems very um gold driven and and I I am the same way. I have. I like to h I don't want to say control what I can, but I do like to control what

I can um. And and when you're an actor, you're going through school acting classes, they tell you like, it's all about the script, it's all about the words, what's your intention and all of that like you're talking about. And then when you get to the groundlings, they say, oh, you have to let all of that go. You have to let everything go. And for me it was hard because it was like, what do you mean that let it all go? I've spent years. Oh well, well, you're like,

that's different perspective coming in. Yeah, that is definitely interesting. And you you were there, you're you seem similar to my age. You were there when it had gotten harder to get up, like years before anybody could move through the ranks, was my understanding. But it had gotten more popular and people had already gotten on Saturday Night Live,

so it was like a thing. Yeah, I mean when you have like Will Ferrell and um, Christy Tan and CHERRYO Terry and Lisa Coudreau was my first teacher, and you know, you're watching these really talented people and you're watching them um be successful and and yeah, I think it did bring a lot of attention to the theater and it did get more competitive because so many people were we're doing it, and my group was like Maya

Rootolph and then um Melissa McCarthy and wow. Yeah. So it was more into exactly like I'm saying, like it was not a joke. Yeah, and Kristin Wig was like right uh after me. So it was yeah, it's hard, uh and it's a different way of thinking and and it is freeing, you know when you when you let go and you're like, I don't know what's going to happen next. I can't know what's gonna happen next, but it's gonna be okay, and it's a really good life lesson. Well do you tribute that to your life, to your

other Coluyeah? You do, because I think I took something from there in my life. I can't tell you what, but I know that the world of improv is so fascinating to me and comedy, um, and that's a liberating place. So you took that improvisation and just like sort of go with the flow into your life. Definitely, I mean, because it's like I said, it teaches you to to not worry about what's going to happen next, because it's not going to help to worry about what's going to

happen next, but to trust yourself. I don't know what's going to happen next, but I trust that myself that I'm going to be able to handle it, to deal with it, to react to it, you know, in a graceful way, and and then it let's go of the pressure. Like when you're on a late night talk show and you don't know what's going to happen, but it's gonna be fine, you know what I mean, whatever happens is going to be fine. And where do you live now?

I live in l A? Okay? So you live in l A. And are you actively like always working, always auditioning, like because you know, I met you in a different time in both of our lives, and I'm in a place now where I really only will do something if I really want to do it. There's I don't I'm motivated by money anymore. And I'm just not one of those people that's like so hungry to grab if I if it feels not great, I don't want to do it. So I wonder talking to a woman that I met

you probably in your thirties or you know, it's different. Yeah, Um, I am a lot like you. I I've been fortunate enough to have success in this field, and it's nice that people approached me and asked me to do things and projects and interviews, and I pick and choose, you know, because time is a real commodity. Um and people and the people that you surround yourself self with. So um. Yeah, there was a day when I didn't have I was just trying to get a job, you know, and You're

just like, I don't care who I'm working with. I'll figure it out. And I still have I definitely still have that in me. Like I I'm open to people and ideas and something new, but I also really value the people that I spend time with. So even this interview, you know what I mean, We have lots of other people we could be talking to, but I really wanted

to talk to you. I appreciate that. Yea. So I really do, because I've met interesting people and it's the same thing like just I this is something I just enjoy and I'm just talking about life and a woman who's married and like I have just r you know, when I first started this a couple of years ago, I was like so rigid about what I was talking about and it's sort of just now, like what comes to me or what jumped off the page about you? Like I thought, so, um, what percentage do you now

have to live in the political world? Like because I and I read about your your cerebral palsy charity and there's like some political adjacent And do people label you differently now because your politics adjacent? Um? Sometimes? Yeah? So right, So I'm married to Bobby Kennedy Jr. Who, um, who is politically involved and um, and there are moments where what he's doing, you know, people will come at me for something that he's doing or that he said, and

and that's not always easy, you know. Uh, And then I really have to take a step back and look at what's important to me. What's really important to me is my pore group of friends that really know me.

So if I had a very close friend that said, you know, that said something to me about that, I would pay more attention to it than somebody who's just coming at me on Twitter or Instagram because you know, and I don't know how much you are, Um, I don't know how often people come at you in a negative way, but just being in the public, yeah, fear people will there are people that don't like me, but I don't know who they are. I've never met them, and I I don'n't know why they don't like me.

But that's okay. Everybody doesn't have to like me. But I don't know why people are hateple sometimes Yeah, no, and Paula, listen, my fiance has worked on like mayoral campaigns and he's pop politics ad Jason. He's from Massachusetts and so he's a kind of conservative type. And that's why I asked, because I really don't know very much about it. The only thing I know is the red tape for relief work, because I do a lot of that.

So I asked just because I wonder if it's like bled over into um entertainment, as it definitely can for some people. Um. And how many years have you been married? Like? And and do you? I always ask people on here who have quote unquote and there's no really success. A successful relationship is one that I think has longevity, that works. No one's No one's like living in fantasyland or perfection. I don't even believe that even if you told me.

But maybe you are the exception because actually Susanne Summers, she and her husband are together every second of every day. They work together. They're obsessed with each other. I'm like, I don't. I don't want to hear it. I really don't, because I just I'm not interested in that. I want to pretend that that doesn't exist. So let's keep that moving. So what are your by laws of success in marriage or functionality in marriage? Um? Yes, So Bobby and I

have been together. We I think we've I think we've been married for nine years, right, so we were and we were dating a few years before that. So, UM, I think for for me, it is I have to be able to laugh with somebody. And and Bobby and I talk about happiness. I I really talked about happiness a lot because I think it's so important in life and important to recognize when you're happy, because you're going to have those moments when you're not happy. Um. But

we talk about banking happiness. So sometimes we'll be somewhere and we'll say, oh my god, this is the I'm having the best time. I'm having the best time with you. Um. We take it all in and we think, okay, we have to bank this because one day it's gonna be

we're gonna get a call. That's bad news, that's hard news, and we're gonna have to go back into this well like the tank, the tank that's the tank is gets full that we have a long distance relationship and sometimes it gets monotonous, a tedious and like the boredom comes up. And I'm a person who grew up at the race track with action and gambling and like dysfunction, so I have, you know a lot of times just my life can be a little boring and like boringes where I have peace,

I'm balanced. I love, I love my life. But sometimes it's just not the action because you're older. So my feeling is that. So we haven't been on a vacation. We were with other people, which was a mistake this summer and Friday we're going away and I'm like, we're coming in on fumes. It's been We just need to do something together that doesn't involve like you know, like a kid pumpkin activity or just like we're just losers. Like I just need to do one thing. Put on

an outfit like the movie The Bridesmaid. She's like, I have a halter top I want to wear. I want to go to Vegas, like I want to wear a Halter tap somewhere. Yeah, I know, I get it because we end up traveling and going to events, and you know, we'll plan our little mini vacation around that event that we have to go to, and you're right, it's just like boy, okay, so I do. I get like that too, where sometimes I'm like, we have to go to a beach and do nothing. Although he can't do nothing. He

Bobby cannot do nothing, which is which is great. That's what I love like that. He needs at he needs a little action. Like it doesn't mean the main thing, but like a town to walk into, something to talk about exactly you know we are scuba diving or oh more than that, but but like going to the town and meeting the you know, person that lives there and having lunch with them or whatever. Bobby really loves different

cultures and different people more than I don't. I don't need to meet anyone ever, I would be okay, I'm good. I say, he really loves. He loves to find out, you know, what, what the town is known for, what this person does, what how they feel about the world. You know, he really we I'm glad. I'm not. I mean, you are opposites, but I am not. I'm more like you, like, I'm not interested in any kind of small talk. What's well, I mean, what what's interesting about him is it's not

it's actually not small talk. He gets right into the heart of you know what. I'm like, Bobby, that's too like maybe, don't you know. But then the person's like, no, I'm glad somebody asked me about, you know, my grandfather. So yeah, they get into these really intense conversations. Yeah, but I'm like you, I'm like, I just yeah, I want to put on my halter top. I want to have a pinicolata and sit by a pool and hope that no one recognizes that it's me in a bathing

suit and feel cute. Yeah, exactly, So I'm looking forward to that. Were you a cosmic tell me about you. Are a cosmetologist, that's a facial Is that a facialist or is that an abstractionist? What is it? Well, after high school, I went to cosmetology school and I learned how to do hair. It was really hair. I mean we learned, we learned skin and hair. This was in Florida, so you learn about both and then um, and then

I got my cosmetology license. I worked in a salon, and then I decided to go to college, so I was working. I was working, um during the day as as a you know, in a salon, cutting hair. And actually that was back in the days of perms and Jerry curls. Oh my god, do you cut your own hair? No? I don't cut my own hair. No. But but during the pandemic, can I just tell you how many haircuts

I had to do? Because no, yes, because everybody was stuck at home and I'm like, I don't It's not really what I want to do on a Friday night. But okay. But even during college, um, you know, everybody was poor. I knew how to cut hair. So anytime I go to a party, people would just line up for me to cut their hair. Wait a minute, do you did anyone complain to you have any customers that were dissatisfied? Oh? Well, yeah, I mean I have a friend when I was in school. Actually that's when that's

when there were some disgruntled patrons. But by the way, they weren't paying for it. But I have a friend named Ed who had let his hair grow out, and I, oh my god, I gave him like a mullet and a perm although he wanted it, it didn't look good by any means, but you know, and then and then sometimes people would get there called um white walls, like when you're doing a haircut for a guy and you go up over the ear too high, then you see a little white Yes, I had to learn how to um.

Not that I have to say, you're I've done those like twenty five things you don't know about me things, and I I like it's funny because you start mailing in the first three and then you realize something that someone doesn't know, Like you said the cosmetology thing. And I once said that I was a spin instructor because I did go to this course. I've never taught anybody,

but I did go to this course. Um, and I thought yours was so crazy, like I did, not do people know that you were Rob Reiner's assistant and that thing not? I mean people do know that, um, not everybody, but yeah, people. It was funny because when it worked for him, they called me Cecy because there was another

assistant named Cheryl. So when I was working up, I was working with Rob when I got curb your enthusiasm and Oh wow, you were auditioning on the How did you because that's a hard job to be a personal assistant to someone like that's how did you fintagal the inter the auditions? Well, I was I was really working for Rob and his wife Michelle in their home, so it was more of a Really I wasn't on the set with Rob. You know, I had the same job

for Lynda and Jerry Bruckheimer. Oh, we have the same job. You're describe me like side right, but like you get to say you were his assistant, but you weren't. Like I wasn't on the set of Pearl Harbor, right. I was at the house sorting organic vitamins and going to Dunhill buying cigars and cardia and buy bracelets. But I was in the mix, and I was really more for Linda. But still I get to say it, I'm saying it

had happened same. I remember the first time I got to drive onto the Paramount a lot and you know, I drive up and I said I I have a drive on and the guy was like, okay, get get over yourself, lady in the red tur cell, and you know, they gave me a little parking pass and I got to drive onto the Paramount lot and I just remember going home that day like, oh my god, I made it. Well, I'm in press because I met he for some reason

on in Malibu one day. I walked down the beach, I remember how long ago it was, and it landed at this house with he and his wife, and had like a two hour conversation with them and loved them, like we really connected. I bet you he might even remember we just for some reason connected and they were great. And I bet you he's as proud that because Linda Bruckheimer, who,

like I said, I used to sort vitamins. Once I became something, she was certainly more as proud of work as having me having worked for her as the opposite Sandwich Bruckheimer. That's really nice. Yeah, yeah, Robin Mitchelle had. They were always very supportive of me. And even when I was working for them as an assistant and I was performing at the Groundlings on Friday and Saturday nights, they would come to every opening, every show opening I had,

and I was an assistant. Wait, you got the hold on, so you got the job for curb your enthusiasm while you were an assistant for them so you you you were old enough to be like looking like a wife. I was. I think it was like thirty five when I got that job. Wow, so you we have a lot. This is why I love this doing this because you know, I didn't quote unquote make anything of myself till I was thirty eight. You're a late bloom er. Two you

work as a personal assistant, you know. And then I and then I didn't have my daughter until I was thirty nine. Oh say I was thirty eight. Yeah. So were you financially struggling when I had up until the moment I got curb? Yeah, and that wasn't People always think those roles, you're making millions of dollars and you weren't in the know. You're not right. Um Oh, I

was really struggling. I know. I was. When I started working for the writers, I was also working at a hotel, um burtending, So I was working two jobs for a long time. There was one point when I was working three jobs. My mom always reminds me, and I'm like, you're right, Okay, good for you. Yeah, because sometimes I feel so um, I can't believe this is my life,

and I feel lucky, really lucky and that. I'll talk to my mom and she's like, you know, well, you can say you're lucky, but I can tell you all the years that you had two jobs, you had three jobs, and you worked your butt off to get there. And I'm like, oh, okay, you forget. I know. It's so being broken. You remember what it felt like to be broken.

I used to bounce checks and I would have insufficient funds, and then you bounced one and then five would go right after it because there was nothing in there, and then you get the fees. You're crying on the phone. I would have insufficient funds all the time. Yeah, I remember that. But you were young and you were just excited about such different things, and that's so funny. Yeah, that is a parallel for sure. Having a daughter. You only have one child? Well, I have my daughter and

then I have six step kids. Right, Okay, so I technically I have seven. Right, technically you have seven? But your daughters is how old? Now? She's eighteen, she's so she's a full person. Yes, I gotta take a picture of you because my daughter and I her favorite one of her favorite movies is Bad Mom's Christmas. And I'm your character where I'm like, key, it's Key Key right, like the house across the street, Yeah, where it's Kristin Bell who's horrified by you, like getting the same pajamas.

Because Brin used to say to me, she used to be like, mom, everybody will ask like about homework and stuff. You'll ask me how my lunch was at school, like compared to everybody else's like, I'll be like, I want I'll come away. What did people think about your lunch box? She's like, no one thought anything about what are you saying? Because I put like an extra note a lollipop in a treat of like no, like, what do you mean? No one said anything about that lunch box today? It

was like a cake pop in there. I'm just like, yeah, I'm crazy about like the little stupid things like that character while the same. That's why I that's why I felt so connected to that character because when my daughter was in high school, she played on the softball teape for and when she was a freshman, and she wasn't very good and she didn't want to be good, she didn't care. But I went to every game and I would bring all these snacks for the girls, and you know,

and a cat. My daughter would be. I'd be like, it's okay that you didn't play. You know you're on you're on the bench, you're ready. She's like, mom, stop, no, that's me right now. I begged her, why won't you let me get I have these extra mic and ix boxes, like twelve of them, and I won't give them what. I don't know why. I act like they're like Cardier braces and like why can't I just bring them to the basketball thing and just give it to out to everybody?

Or all this makeup I do because I have this beauty, Like why can't I just just let me make little beauty bags for your friend? Like mom, stop stop stop. Yeah, by the way, because this year, I've got a whole bunch of bags, like gooty bags. I thought it was her birthday. Put it together and there were cute things like in there. It was cute. It wasn't like baby stuff, and she was I wasn't like Plato, it was like real stuff. She's like, mom, absolutely not. I'm like why.

She's like I can't give that like and I'm like why, I'm like, what am I supposed to put in there? Like nun chucks like a vibrator. You're freaking twelve. So yeah, I'm embarrassing. And I one day I'll ask you to like send me send a message to her saying something I would be I would be thrilled to do that. And by the way, I love my daughter so much that I'm starting a company with her. Wow. Whether she wants to or not, No, she does want to. But we've been working on it for a few years and

we're about to launch. But when we launch, can I come back and tell you everything? Please? I'm so excited. Yeah, that's amazing. Is she excited? She into it. She's into it. She's excited. She's also in college right now, so it's like, well, spring break is coming up. Meanwhile, I'm like working with my sister my brother to um you know, and we're working on packaging and manufacturing and but but it's exciting because I really wanted to stay connected with her and

do something you know, empowering UM with her. That would be you know, building blocks for the future. So I don't know, it's really exciting, it's really fun. Um, it's very exciting. I just want to hear what it is, um. But that's that's concept of being in business with your daughter's amazing too. You know who was on the show that was on in your number seventeen on Things We

Don't Know About You is John Paul Dioria. He was on here and I know him from years ago because my friend Michelle Charters was a bar to hot bartender at a place called King King and she met him and I think he loved her, and I think he bought her Harley Davidson, gave her Harley Davidson as a tip and maybe mixing two people, but he gave her. He gave her and she bought my motorcycle like something crazy. But he was on here, and um, I just thought that was like so random that you know him, Well,

it's funny because he's my inspiration. So I know John Pauloria started, you know, founded Paul Mitchell and invested in Patron and Patron which he he crushed started and then sold um and his daughter Michael Lean runs uh Paul Mitchell now. So it's it's so cool and he's so amazing and she's amazing. And when I first started entertaining the idea of starting this company, I talked to both of them and they've been so um, helpful and inspirational to me. Well, I don't even know how you know

you don't know him because of hair? No, I know him. I'm famous hairstylist. What if I did his hair? What about that I've been doing? Is there for the last thirty years? Um? I know him through Waterkeeper Alliance. So. Waterkeeper is a a nonprofit organization that protects clean water. So and he's very environmentally UM supportive and so he um. So that's where I met him. And I met him through Bobby. He had already he had been friends with Bobby for a long time. So that's how that was

my introduction to him years ago, years ago. Okay, so I know him and he was on here and he's lovely. I just thought that was like an interesting touch point too. Um. And are you overbearing with your daughter or like reasonable or both? I think I'm reasonable. I think I'm reasonable. Um. You know, we're really uh, we're really close. You know. It was really hard and harder, way harder than I anticipated. When she was leaving to go to school. I had to go to college. I was I wasn't I wasn't ready.

Where did she go? She's in Dallas, did you consider was California part of it? Because I'm not even kidding and I know this is wrong, but we talked about all the time, like where we're going to move when she's exactly like where we're living, where we are going to Pepperdine, living in Malibu or Santa Barbara, like it has to be warm. We've had these yeah, but I know that's how I felt. I was like, I wherever

you're going, I will go. And she really thought that, like you thought that from yeah, because I think it's real. So it's not real. It's not real because the problem is is they want their own space. When does that start? When do they want their own space? Because my daughter is obsessed with me, and she's twelve and more than her friends are obsessed with their parents. Like she likes on weekends to be with me, do a play date with them or a couple of things. But she wants

to do activities with me. But I'm I'm crazy, like my you know, I'm We're always doing an adventure. Last weekend it was dunkin Donuts onesies and we went in to do a donut crawl and it's CBS or the dollars I'm like one of those people that just wants to do stupid things all the time, which is great, and that will that will stay. It's just gonna it's

gonna change its shape. Yeah, if that makes sense. So like when Kat went to school, when you know, off to college, it's like it was hard because you know, just thinking, oh my god, I'm not gonna make her breakfast in the morning. Uh, but but we still, you know, before she we I drove her to school. So we had like a two day trip together, which, oh, that's so good. It was really helpful because before that we were both like what am I gonna do without you?

And we were both just like I can't live without you. And by you know, after yes hours, I know want you to kill each other. That was great. You're just like, Okay, i'll see you later, I will see you in a month. Let's just get some space, right. Choice. It was helpful, it was and you need a choice, not Yeah, you get so excited you miss them, and then I'm like, I need my own person. We'll be out somewhere and we've just been doing it and I get I'm like, I need my own life and my own body and

my own choice right now, so it's time. Yeah, that's hilarious. I love that. Wow, Well does she talk to you about sex and like did she get or no? Like when do they starting? When do they start kissing and they're lying about like they're telling you nothing's happening. When does this all start earlier? I don't know. I would

imagine like sixth grade kissing. Oh yeah, and you you had the whole pandemic, Like don't you now feel like you can't believe you got that time if you were you know, like I don't know if you have pets, but with your pets, with your kids, like my pets, we are so close. My pets and my daughter were

like so much closer because of all that time. And there was a lot of getting on each other's nerves too, But that was that made you closer to yeah, yeah, and and it also made it I think more difficult for her to and for us two part ways, because you spent we spent so much time together and then all of a sudden, it's it's like, oh, I'm she's leaving, right,

That's what I mean. That was a weird time to have the pandemic right before the college leaf because because every day, all day, all all day, all night, what are you gonna have for dinner? What should we do? And we would and we would have our little dates because Cat and I would we go pick up sushi and sit in the car and eat, and we drive. Sometimes we drive to the beach just because I have a lot of people in my house, a lot of people in my house, so we would have our own

little dates that it was fun. You know. I love that. Wow. I mean, I I you, and I need to get together with you in person, Like I never mean interesting people, and then I never reach out. I'm just like, I'm going to Florida in a two weeks, and I'm thinking, who do I know that I like in Florida? And then I remind reminding myself as someone I really like, like one time in California, just like I know I like you and I'm in California. Let's know, Yeah, I would.

I want to get a drink with you me too. Um well, okay, I won't bother you because I'm not even talking about anything anymore. I'm just gonna ask you, like what your favorite color is soon and your ice cream flavor, and like like when you last got a pedicure. I have nothing to like. Ask it matters, But what were your rose and thorn of your career? Um? Well, gosh,

I mean the thorns. It's hard because you know, you get sometimes you get close to getting up for me personally, but I'm sure every actor you get close to getting a big film that you think will change your life, and then you don't get it, and the film comes out and that other actress did a great job, but it also didn't seem to change her life, you know, So it's a bit of a life lesson All the time. As an actor, you put so much, you're so sure that if you've got this one thing, it would change

your life. Um, And then in life goes on, you know, you mean, like anybody could say that in any job. And then later the puzzle pieces come together. So it can't be your thorn because it was your thorn in the moment, but later it became your rose because it dedfinitely matter in Yeah, I like, I I totally understand that. And is your life where you want it? Like? Do you feel balanced and at peace? So you hate saying to somebody you happy? Like me right now? I'm balanced

in a piece I'm a little bored. I'm overall happy, but it's like I'm settled, but I'm a little you know, in my life just because you need you seem like you need to create something, you need to put it out. I don't want to challenge yourself and I don't want to. I think you do. I think no, I want don't. I've done a lot of work, You've done a lot. I don't want to go. I don't want to put the makeup on. I don't want to do what So I have the idea, but I don't want to do

what it takes. It's funny because yeah, I totally know what you mean. Um, I am at a place where I'm very happy. I I feel I'm amazed at how my life has turned out and where I am and the people that I've been able to work with. So I feel just grateful every day. I mean, we're shooting another season of Curb Your Enthusiast. I shoot tomorrow. So I am just so I wake up the boarding, I'm like, holy balls, I can't believe that I get to do this.

And at the same time, UM, working on this new company that has nothing to do with this business is really exciting to me because I'm learning stuff every day. You know, not that I'm not still learning stuff acting, but you know, I have a good idea of what's going to happen tomorrow as an actress. You know, I know what it takes and what what you need to do. And but with this company, I'm I'm learning something every day. I'm working with my daughter by says Serve, my brother,

and we're really having a good time with it. So the next step will be, you know, when we launch. I don't know what that's going to look like. I don't know. I don't I I know that there will be roses and thorns that I can't even anticipate. So you have consistency and the show that is funny and fun and purposeful, and you're still in the game. You're relevant, you're in the action, and then you've got something that's a little bit of a question mark. So that gives

you a little bit of that jolt. Yes, exactly, and not only that, but uh, there's a part of the starting a company that, um, you can control, you know, I can control what the products are, what the logo is, what our goal is, what we're working for, what I wanted to smell like what I wanted to feel like what I wanted to do, And that is really exciting. Where as an actor, I don't have much control over

what my next job is. You know, you get a script and and you read it and you talk to the director or the producer and you know, one time I didn't get a job because I looked too much like the director's ex wife. Wow. So there are things that you can't control as an actor. You're too old, you're too young, you're too fat, you're too skinny. What things that you can't control? You know what I mean?

So when there's something exciting about, something tangible that you can see and feel and look at and hold and um have a little control control over. Yeah, it's still creative, but it's got a box around it that you can Yeah, that's so true. You Paul, my fiance, produced a movie I forgot to tell you that I don't think was your greatest war nor his. But he is a real estate developer that's produced like thirteen movies and he's wonna a peabody Like it's it's nothing to be embarrassed about.

But years ago you did a movie with him, not that he said, because I mentioned today that I was talking to you, and he was like, I don't think it was either of our finest moment. So I don't even know what it was called. But it was in the beginning of your career. I think. Let me look it up. Cold Turkey. Oh okay, Cold Turkey. Okay, yes, that film. Yeah, it wasn't your best work. I don't think or his right, he just said. He was like he made it like on his part, he was like, yeah,

that was in the beginning. I think was the first thing he ever did, and I don't think it's his best moment. You know what. I had a good time doing it, all right, Well that's I really. I really liked the people that I worked with, so that was good. Yeah. Did it Did it hit its mark? Probably not? But that's okay. Um, well you have hit your mark. I loved getting to know you and meeting you again, and it was really fun, really really nice. I do. I

want to hang out with you, Bethany, me too. So I'm I'm making I'm gonna when I come to l A next which I have no plans yet, but I always have some we will get together. I would love nothing more awesome. Thanks Thanks Bethany Bye. Oh god. You know some days I'm just like, what am I going to talk about today? And you know, for some reason, Cheryl hines her background impressed doesn't have like, you know, a lot of scandal or crazy things. And I could

have talked to her forever. There was a point in that interview where I thought, like we had lunch, am I even should I stop talking to her? Like it was so fun, it was so great. I really like her, Like that's somebody I find people on this show that I would be girlfriends with because I'm very installar and I don't have a lot of girlfriends. I have people I've known for a thousand years. I don't trust anybody. And just life, it's it's so busy. It's hard to

make new friends and you don't get time. Like I told her, we have drinks, it'll be five years from Thursday because we're both are busy. I loved her like I loved her. I thought she was awesome, real person. I'm going to call her when I go to l A. So what an interesting life, what a fun interview. Thank you for listening. Um so different than our other show, rewives and I love them both like two different children

that are couldn't be more opposite. So thank you for listening, rate, review, and subscribe and have a wonderful day.