¶ Courage and Hiking
So I've been thinking a lot about the word courage , and what does courage mean to you ? And it can be different for everyone . From my next guest , tara , courage was facing the unknown and moving to a place where she didn't know anybody or have any family nearby .
It is the adventure of hiking in this unknown place that my guest finds her peace and her enjoyment . We are going hiking in my home state of Utah with Tara . Hello everyone , my name is Jake Bushman and I am the host of Journey with Jake . This is the podcast that inspires you to overcome challenges through adventure . My next guest loves to hike .
In fact , you can follow her hiking adventures by checking out her Instagram account Tara on a hike , which is actually at Taraonahike , so be sure and check her out . Specifically . Tara talks about hiking in my home state of Utah , and Tara and I both share the experience of running the Tempanogas Half-Marathon this past June .
But don't let her size fool you Tara is quite the hiker and a smoking fast half-marathon runner . Time to get outside with Tara . Welcome to Journey with Jake . This is a podcast about adventure and how , through our adventures , we can overcome the challenges of life that come our way . While I expect you will learn some things about different adventures .
This show will entertain you . Each episode will feature a different guest or guest as they share experiences and stories from the different adventures they have been on . Not only will you be entertained , but you will also hear the failures and trials each guest faces and what they have done or are doing to overcome the hardships that come their way .
My goal is to take each of us on a journey through the experiences of my guests , with the hope that you'll be entertained and inspired to overcome your day-to-day challenges . After all , it's not all about the destination as it is about the journey . Welcome back to Journey with Jake . This is episode number 65 , cruising right along .
I am thrilled you are here with me each and every week for all these adventures and real stories of my guests and their challenges and struggles . We are all going through our own difficulties and I am strengthened each time I hear about hiking or running , paramotoring , rafting , caving in beliefs you name it . We try to talk about it , including today .
The next few episodes of Journey with Jake are going to have a focus on being outdoors and spending time in nature . The adventure of camping , visiting national parks and hiking are just some of those activities that can really help us mentally , and I believe that I hope you are inspired as much as I am .
Speaking of being inspired , one thing I have realized I need along my journey is a little bit of coaching . I am starting to prep again to run another half marathon and I want to give a shout out to Jacob and Melody Bateman from Trail to 100 .
Follow them at trail to 100 on Instagram or check out their website , trail to 100.com , and they can get you set up on a program catered to you and your needs to help with your running adventure . You don't have to be a professional or hit a certain time to be coached .
I'm telling you all I am not fast by any stretch and I don't plan to be super fast , but I want to be better and improve and , with their guidance , it is happening and it can happen for you as well , so please check them out and let them know . Jake from Journey with Jake sent you . Okay , let's get on to today's show .
Tara , welcome to Journey with Jake .
Hello , thank you for having me on .
Yeah , this is fun . I found you on Instagram .
¶ Finding Adventure
I think the algorithm is kind of shaped towards me finding adventure seekers , people who hike , people who can't , people who do fun things , and I came across Tara on a hike . It's at Taraonahike and fascinating stuff . You have some cool things and you're in Utah .
You're local to Utah , I'm local to Utah , so I thought it'd be fun to get to chat with you a little bit and kind of learn about your hikes and things like that . But before we do that , I'd like to know a little bit about who you are . So , if you don't mind , tell us a little bit about who Tara is , if you don't mind .
So I'm originally from Texas , about two hours north of Houston . It's very flat and green . There's not a lot of mountains , but I loved hiking when I was in pretty areas and able to hike . I graduated college and wanted to move somewhere with mountains and so that led me to Utah . I just loved getting out and seeing the mountains and getting into nature .
I love the smell of fresh air and seeing all these beautiful landscapes and just getting out of the city .
I'm with you there . That kind of attracted me to Utah . I've only lived in Utah for a couple years now and I love that part of it . I love the fresh air , seeing mountains . We got a lot right in our own backyard , which is fantastic , and that's what I love about it . As you're growing up , you come from a big family , small family .
What's your family situation like ?
Small family . Also , to add earlier , I always loved cross country as well . I did cross country all through , like middle and high school and college as well , not for my college , but it just kept up my running .
The running scene here is awesome too , as you know , because you just did the 10th half marathon that I also ran in , so another great aspect of living in Utah .
Definitely , without a doubt . That's cool that you're in cross-country . I ran cross-country in high school as well . I've never done a half marathon before . That was my first time . It's taken me forever to finally do one . I can tell everybody , though , that you were probably you were about 30 minutes ahead of me on that half marathon , by the way .
So Tara's smoking fast too , by the way , so she's really fast . That's good . I'm glad you've enjoyed that . Enjoyed that part of it as well . The running part is a lot of fun . So small family . And then you moved out here to Utah . I know you and I had kind of chatted first prior about any like challenges and things you've had .
I think one thing you mentioned was just kind of moving here on your own . So if you don't mind , kind of tell us a little bit about what that was like for you to pick up and move to some place . Sounds like you hadn't been here before . What was that like for you ?
So I hadn't been to Utah before , I didn't know anybody here , no family or anything like that 2020 , like October 2020 . So COVID and places getting closed down and everything . Yeah , I really was not very happy when I first moved here .
My work was all teleworking and so I didn't really know the people that I was working with either and I just felt very alone . After being here about a month and a half , I adopted my dog , and just having another , like being in the house with me , helped me be a lot happier .
And then , a few months later , we started working in person and started to get to know the people that I was working with instead of just seeing a name on the email . I actually knew spaces and stuff about them and everything . So that's when I started really enjoying living here was about six months later after moving .
Yeah , so I would agree with you on that COVID time to move right during all that when all that was happening , that alone feeling and you know I've felt that times , but I've been married and have kids and things , so I had that around me all the time . But that could be challenging when you feel that loneliness .
You're working , like you said , remotely and if I'm not mistaken , you came over for data science . You're a data scientist .
Yep , that's correct .
All right , very good . So you're a data scientist , yeah , and you're just moving to a place you don't know . You don't know the people , you don't know anything about it . And there you are , just on a computer remote . I'm glad you adopted the dog . How was that for you when you first got that dog ? What was that like ? Having a friendly face in the house ?
I was great . I am pretty much obsessed with her still . So I've always loved dogs and I always knew I wanted one . But definitely I want to break out to Utah and started just like filling a law . I was like , okay , yeah , this is the time we're getting a dog .
And I remember I met her and it was at a rescue , like a foster house , and the lady had already seen a few other people and like interviewed them and had her meet my dog Lola . And I remember thinking like I'm probably not going to get her , they're going to give her to like a family or something .
And I was kind of sad because I didn't think I was going to get her . But then they called me the next day and they were like congrats , we're going to give you Lola . And I was like so happy .
How did you discover hiking , though ? Was that something you said ? You kind of did a little bit in Texas , but how did you get out ? I mean , when did you start saying okay , I got to start exploring where I'm at ?
Pretty much right when I moved here . I think the day after I moved here I went on my first hike . It was just waterfall , canyon and Ogden , so super short and not too far away from where I was living at the time . But yeah , I did a little bit of hiking in Texas .
There's not really a lot of opportunities since it's mostly flat , but I want to go into Big Bend National Park and Canyon Rock a couple areas that Austin but there's really just not a whole lot of hiking to be done . Always thought that the mountains looked so beautiful and I always wanted to go and everything .
So finally went to Colorado the summer before I graduated college .
Summer , right after I graduated college , one of my friends and we did a hike each day of increasing altitude and difficulties so that I hopefully wouldn't get altitude sickness to originally from Colorado , so she didn't have to worry about it , but I had never been there before and yeah , I got altitude sickness on the 14er .
But I loved it and it's so fun and a great time to be there in the summer .
Wow , so you hiked the 14er . So I have a hard time just going up . I went up on they have Mount Evans there , which is 14,000 feet on a paved road , like I drove up there and I was having a hard time breathing Just driving up there , you know just once I got on , started walking around .
I was like whoa , I got to get down because I'm struggling here . What did the , what did the altitude sickness do to you ? What kind of things did it do to you to kind of just make you dizzy , things like that , or what happened ?
I Didn't start feeling sick until we had already gone to the peak and we're heading down , and I started getting a really bad headache and Just like not feeling too good once we got back to the car .
And we're driving back , we , we went , we stopped in Breckenridge for lunch and I barely ate anything , and then I threw up Not too long after and then we got home I threw up a few more times . So , yeah , it's not too fun .
But you were able to do it . That's pretty cool . You managed to do it . It's just , yeah , not feeling great afterwards . Yeah that's color in . Colorado is a beautiful state , neighbors with Utah . And then you , you started your Instagram account tear on a hike . How long ago did you start that and what was kind of the inspiration behind that ? I ?
started in February and , honestly , I've just been on so many hikes and I have a personal Instagram as well and I've posted a lot of stuff on there , but not all of my hikes . So I kind of wanted like a like hiking diary of just my hikes and also to be able to share that with Everyone else .
Like a lot of times on Instagram , I've been able to find other people's hikes and getting their pictures , and it's inspired me to go on certain trails , so I'd like to pay a forward and be able to help other people find the hikes that they'd like to do as well . They just haven't seen the pictures of it yet .
Nice and I noticed you're I mean you're picking up a pretty decent following from what I can tell , so that's awesome . I think people really like that sort of thing . My episode number 10 I had on the show was with Shelby man , who's from Colorado and she's a guide in Colorado and does hikes and so I know she Absolutely loves hiking
¶ Utah Hiking Experiences
. Let's get into a little bit of your hikes . You came here new , you came here fresh . How much of the state do you think you've seen hiking ?
I mean there's so many hikes around here it's crazy there's still so many that I haven't done that I want to do . I've seen I've gone to four of the five national parks here in Utah but I haven't done all of the hikes there at those parks .
So yeah , there's probably no way to no way to get all those done either , because of how many there are within each , each of those places .
Yeah , maybe like 40% , I don't know . I haven't explored more of like the central Utah region either , so which national park are you still missing ? I think it's Capitol reef National Park . Yeah , okay .
Very good and it sounds like you do . You live kind of near Ogden , you kind of more in northern Utah .
Yeah , Northern Utah area .
Okay , so you've probably done . I'm guessing you do a lot around there .
I'm mostly around like Ogden or like Salt Lake , but I'll go down further south as well .
So so let's kind of dig into some of these hikes that you've done . What would you say if you're , if you could pick today , if you had to pick today ? Maybe you have a few , but let's just think of one and maybe you can tell us a little bit about it . Which one's your favorite hike ?
my favorite hike is Sardine Peak and I did a great hike pretty much year round . I went there just a few weeks ago and it was just incredible . The wildflowers were just Explosive . I've never seen the wildflowers like that on any hikes before . It's not eight miles . You can also do a little side trail . It's like a half mile for the Ogden overlooked .
Adding that a little more than nine mile hike total and it's over at snow basin ski resort . But it's also incredible in in the fall just all the trees are so gorgeous . But really there's so many amazing hikes in the fall that it's hard to really just recommend only that one .
Yeah , falls beautiful around here . You said that was Sardine , is that the name ?
Yep Sardine , okay , just .
Sardine peak . Okay , so I've taken all these notes for me just because I live here , so I like I gotta check out some of these places .
It's the same trails the Ogden , overlooked trails , kind of confusing on all trails , but they're the same how about the Most difficult one you've had ? the most difficult one I've done with I for horn kind of weird spelling , but it's pf Eif f er horn . But that one is in little cottonwood Canyon and I did that one like two weeks after moving here .
I found a group on Facebook that was doing it and they said it was hard but I was like , well , I just hit a 14 or like two months ago . It's fine , I'm down . It had just snowed .
So I'm a Texan , so not very familiar with the snow , but I just know that weekend and we lost the trail after we got past I think it's red pine lake or white pine lake , one of the lakes that's up up there . After that lake there was like no trail .
It was just like lost in snow and there was like nobody up there that day and so we tried to find the trail . We definitely did not pick the correct route to get to the ridge and we made it a lot harder than it needed to be and it was Pretty like stressful and scary being in the snow and it was very sketchy .
But we got up to the ridge and this guy here's just a total mountain go . You're just like running around these mountain ridges . He was up there that day and ran into us and encouraged us to keep going and that we already made it to the ridge , like , just keep going , there's a fault . Summit and then just the peak right up ahead .
But there are two very sketchy areas after that where you had to basically just scoot your Hand , your hands and your feet across the top and bottom of these , this big rock , and there's a big drop off next to you and there's two spots like that to get to the summit . But you , our group , all did it .
There's four of us , we all did it and nobody got hurt and waited for summit and it was amazing and From the summit you could see the trail a lot better than you could at the lake . So we took the easier path down .
You got to the top there , the the peak , and you said it was amazing , though I mean , that part was worth it . It was just getting there was the tough part .
Okay .
Yeah , and , and you said four people with you . Yeah , or three other people total three other people , you plus three other . Yeah , very good . I want to talk about the snow for a minute , because in this past winter there was a lot of snow here in Utah . No , I'm new to Utah , from Arizona and I'm from Las Vegas , so I'm a desert dweller .
I'm not used to the snow . How is it hiking in the snow ? What have you learned since that first experience ?
I actually love winter hiking . I honestly probably do more winter hiking than I do in the summer . It's great . I think a lot of people don't realize that it's actually pretty easy just to hike in the winter . They don't need snow shoes for most of the hikes , you just need micro spikes .
So at the time I didn't have micro spikes yeah , but the other girls did and so they told me that I needed to buy them . So I bought them for my future hikes . I love winter hiking . You beat all the crowds and you really don't even have to Layer up that much around here .
I normally just hike in like a long-sleeve shirt and maybe like a sweatshirt over it and leggings , and then Then good hiking shoes and my micro spikes and I'm ready to go micro spikes .
Okay , I haven't heard micro spikes . What are they ? Just like tennis shoes , other than like golf shoes or something with spikes on them . What are they ?
um no . So there are these little things that you put on top of your shoes and they just have like Small little bikes and they kind of have like chains with it too and it just helps you get good traction on the on the snow or ice .
I have a pair that I think are like a hundred dollars on amazon , but there are some other options as well I would not recommend . There's these yak tracks , and those are not good . Those are not good for hiking . They're more of just like driveway or something if there's ice , but not for hiking .
Okay , well , it's good to know , just in case I I'm not too sure if I'm I don't know if I'm risky enough to go I can the snow . I haven't tried that yet . I'm always just afraid I'm gonna be wet and cold , but maybe not .
I would recommend checking all trails and it'll tell you if it's like in an avalanche area . So there's some hikes like lake blanche and , um , like mount olympus that do go through some avalanche areas . So you have to check the avalanche report first .
But antelope island is always a good option because it's not with all the other mountains and Very , very low avalanche danger so , and also there's no bugs in the winter .
Okay , yeah , I heard , antelope island gets quite buggy spring and summer gets pretty bad .
It's perfect in the winter , though I love that one .
Is it okay ? And I've never been to antelope island . Antelope island has the buffalo , correct ? There's buffalo there . Yep , yep , okay .
That is not a good area to run , though I would not recommend running because there have been runners that have gotten mauled by the buffalo . I think it kind of stokes them seeing people running , but I haven't had any issues hiking or anything .
So that's good to know .
Yeah , I don't want to be fooled by a by a buffalo from all your hikes .
So you've been here , would you say , three years . You've been in utah .
Um pretty close to it , Yep .
Pretty close , okay , so pretty close to three years . Speaking of buffalo , any other have you ran in ? Have you had any other wildlife encounters ?
Um , I've seen moose a few times , so actually the only trail that I've seen moose on has been lake blanche , but I haven't had any close encounters or scary calls or anything .
So oh , that's good . You just see them off the disk . That's the best way to see it right .
Just hey , there they are , Stay there , yeah .
All right , very good . So we talked about your favorite kind of your . Most difficult Was the most difficult one , the one that you , you know , did in the winter up to that peak and Pfeiffer right , pfeiffer horn , was that what it ?
was called yeah , yeah .
Was that also the scariest then ? Because you said there's a few sketchy parts .
Yeah , that was the scariest one . That one was not . That one was definitely not dog friendly Dogs aren't allowed in little cottonwood Canyon anyways but that would not be one that you could take your dog on , and it was a technical hike , unlike most of the hikes that I've done .
So when you say a technical hike , is that mean like you're like sprawled up against a rock , like inch and a lot Like . What does that mean when you say a technical hike ?
We kind of like inch along that big . There's a couple of the big rocks where , like your hands and feet are just at the top and bottom of this rock and there's kind of like a ledge and then you just kind of scoot yourself across it with like a drop off next to you .
But most of the hikes I do are just pretty chill , Like you can just walk most of it . There might be like a little bit of you know scrambling over some rocks , but nothing , nothing too crazy . But that one was a little different than most of the ones I've done .
So you come here three years ago by yourself . I like the fact that you you went to social media and to find a group to hike with .
Yeah .
It's pretty good of you to do that , to try to kind of get out of your shell a little bit and meet some people , do some things . Are you a solo hiker ? Do you like to go hike by yourself or usually with somebody ?
I'm pretty much always with somebody . I've done some solo hikes , but I definitely prefer to hike with other people , usually just one or two other people .
Nice , okay , very good . So you , you have people . So when you first came here then and didn't know anybody , was that what you were doing them , or you just finding these groups to hike with ? Is that how you kind of got out to do these hikes ?
Yeah yeah . There's a few different Facebook groups that I'm in girls who hike Utah and Utah babes hiking group and stuff like that . I normally just hike with girls , so yeah , All right .
So we talked .
¶ Utah's Hiking Experiences
Your scariest was that one that you did , the Pfeiffer horn , as well as the most difficult . Your favorite one was Sardine peak .
Yeah .
This may fall into . I don't know if this will trying to word how to say I have written down worst one , but basically what I mean by that is just the one where you were expecting more and it was kind of a let down .
Yes , I would say Mount Ogden . So all trails said that it was like 11 miles . It was all of 14 miles and I didn't think that I got off trail . So it was a very long day and I felt like the views were good , but they weren't just like incredible or anything . So it was also incredibly windy for much of the hike .
So by far the windiest hike I've done and just a very long day for like okay views , but nothing too just like amazing . So I'm glad that I did that one , but I don't really feel the need to do it again .
I think in your mind you're thinking 11 and then when it went 14 , that probably that would frustrate me a little bit , just cause I'm like wait a second , this was only supposed to mean you already by 11 . I mean , that's pretty long hike . You already got to be pretty tired at that point . What time of year was that one ?
I don't know the fall . That was also pretty close to whenever I moved here , so I think that was like October , november of 2020 .
And you haven't done it again since now probably won't keep that one . Keep that one off the list . And then , on the opposite end , I mean we talked about a favorite one , but was there anyone that was like unexpected Maybe , where you thought this seems okay , but it was like , wow , it was a lot .
I mean , besides the Sardine peak , it was a lot better than maybe you thought it was going to be .
Lake Blanche has been a great one . I've done that one several times . It is extremely popular . So the first time I did it was also shortly after I moved here and there were so many people .
I did it on a Saturday , I don't know what time , but very packed and then it's a narrow-ish trail so you're just constantly stopping to let people pass you , and there were some people near me that were playing music on a boombox and I was just like , wow , this is not the ideal hike , but I've done that one several more times now and had very great
experiences . I love hiking it in the winter because there's like nobody there and it's just . It's like a magical place in the winter . Just everything's covered in snow , there's no people and it's just . It's an incredible hike . There's a reason it's so popular .
Again , you're kind of going back to that winter theme . I kind of get the sense you really do like these winter hikes quite a bit . Yes , now that you've been here for a few years . You've met more people . You're doing things . You even got married .
Any advice If there's someone else put in you know Tara's shoes who's moving out here for whatever for a job , for whatever reason and they're alone but they like to hike , what would you suggest that they do ? Any advice for them ?
I would suggest trying to get connected , join some Facebook groups . Hopefully your job is not a remote only job it's not the right style of job for you and you can meet some friends at work and maybe meet some hiking friends that way .
That's been a huge like morale boost for me just being able to work in person and even hike with some of my working friends as well that you already know , because it can be kind of weird meeting strangers on trails .
But also be smart with the meeting of strangers , like make sure that their Facebook seems legit and they're not like a fake person and everything . But try to be safe but also try to meet new people .
I want to ask about that too , and you kind of talk about safety a little bit and it sounds like you always go with somebody , which is probably a good idea .
I know Shelby Mann , who I spoke with episode 10 , she's a solo hiker , like she goes out a lot of solo hikes but she's always prepared and she has things and she does things to prepare herself for it . But even for you , if it's just you and maybe one other friend or something that that goes out , what kind of precautions do you take ?
I almost always have service on my phone . It's really nice in case I do need to call for help . I always try and keep extra water more water than I plan to use just in case anything happens , and also some extra snacks . Sunscreen I usually carry my spikes in the winter and spring , even if I don't think that I'm going to use them just in case as well .
Stuff like that . Also an extra sweatshirt for the winter as well .
Okay , nice , you're just being prepared have some service . Yeah , do you carry any like bear spray or anything like that ?
No , thankfully I haven't seen bears , or really heard of too many , but I do have pepper spray as well , so Okay , yeah , I was just kind of .
I was kind of joking about that too , because I know I had Melody Bateman , who's kind of from your area up there . She's from I think they're from Ogden area , but she's a runner , she's run , you know , 100 mile ultra marathons , that type of thing .
But she says she always carried because she had a moose encounter where it got a little scary , but she carries the bear spray , she goes . You can use bear spray not just on animals , meaning you never know .
I mean , I'm sure there's .
I'm sure there's some weirdos that you may come across on the on the trail of time or two . Who knows ? Hopefully not , but you never know . So that's good . At least you got pepper sprays . You can shoot them in the face with that . So that's good . All right , excellent , I was just curious about that .
So , speaking of the hiking part and I you're a runner as well I think this Tempanoga is half marathon . What was that like ? Six or seven for you that you've done half marathons ?
Yeah , that was my seventh actually .
Seventh Okay , very good , have you done a full marathon ?
No , I like the half distance , it's perfect .
Good , good distance . Talking about the running part , do you find some of these trails that you go on , that you can run on , that you like to run on ? Have you done that ?
I haven't really , so some of the trails I've done I ran down like Mount Olympus . That one is a lot easier just to keep going with gravity and your momentum and everything , to just keep running instead of walking down . But I didn't really do too much show running so I've tried to do a little bit . Taylor's Canyon and I like to bring my angle .
So you learned your lesson from night . Like that's not for me . So when you run then you're pretty much . You run on like I don't want to cement or hard , whatever those hard trails that I have . That's what I like running on . So I've found a few trails .
I'm further south of you , I'm down in Spanish Fork , and I found a few trails here that go along like the Spanish Fork River . But it's you know , it's paved and so bikers go on it , people walking , people running . That seems to fit for me . I'm just not sure if I could do the whole trail thing . Maybe I can .
I just haven't really given it a shot yet , but I was just curious what you kind of do on that . So it sounds like you pretty much stick to the road or the paved areas for your running .
Yeah .
So what's your future plans ? What are you thinking you're going to do moving forward , any kind of future plans ? As far as hiking goes , what do you think about Utah ? Do you , would you like to stay in Utah ? What's kind of your thoughts ?
Yeah , I love Utah . I actually just bought a house . I'm planning on staying in Utah , maybe for the rest of my life , we'll see . Yeah , staying here in Utah , living in our new house .
And my main bucket list hike this year is temp , not to Pinogas , so I tried to do it last year and at 4 30 am there was no parking on a Saturday , so we did silver glance lake instead , which was also super beautiful , but not temp , and so I still haven't done it and I am probably just going to take off work and do it on like a Tuesday .
So we lost people .
Yeah , wow , that's pretty wild that at 4 30 in the morning was already packed , I know .
And they towed there too , so oh , okay .
So if you try to park somewhere that you're not supposed to , you're going to get towed Yep .
That's one of the things .
So I noticed , because the route that we ran , you know we ran down that American Fort Canyon for our half marathon parking stuff is tricky Like all over that whole canyon . It's a beautiful canyon but it's . I came back a few days later . We met some people to eat and it was just like tricky to try to Everyone's out and about , Everyone's seeing the sights .
It's tricky to park .
Yeah , you have to get out early . That's like at Lake Blanche . Last time I did it last weekend , we started our hike at 5 am and the parking lot was already almost full .
So Any last minute thoughts you want to share with us before we wrap it up ? Is there any any other stories that you have or anything that we should know about hiking here in Utah ?
I just say fall hiking . We didn't really talk about it too much , but fall hiking is absolutely incredible in Utah . Coming from Texas especially , I appreciate all of the beautiful fall colors and I am just like in awe of the fall colors and there's it's really hard to recommend any one hike just because there's so many . That would just be incredible .
So I would recommend getting out in fall . And I also just want to tell you congrats on running the half marathon for your first half marathon . Uh , that one's always hard because you don't know it's 13 miles , it's a long distance , so it doesn't even matter your time , it's an accomplishment and I appreciate that ?
Yeah , that was definitely tricky . There was some unexpected had some unexpected stomach issues that I had to choose that I wasn't expecting . You know , I don't know if I was nervous , I don't know what the case was , but yeah , that was . It was definitely a challenge , but I appreciate that . I'm hoping to do some more .
I don't know about seven , but you know I want to do ? I want to do a few more for sure , cause now I kind of have an idea and yeah , and yeah , I'm looking forward to it . Tara , thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing your thoughts . I'm glad you really enjoy Utah . Now , I know that was a kind of a struggle for you at first .
You're coming to this unknown place without knowing anybody , so I admire you for that . I think that takes courage and I think that's awesome . That you just really grabbed hold of it and got outside , saw the sights and now your big time advocate for Utah , I'd say .
Yep .
Thanks for being on the show . I appreciate it .
Yeah , thank you for inviting me . You're having me on .
¶ Adventure Hiking and Inviting Guests
Special thanks to Tara for coming on the show talking about her adventures hiking in this great state of Utah . I'm grateful to have her on . Give her a follow on Instagram , Check her out . She's got a lot of fun things , pictures and stuff . There's different places that she's hiking . It's a lot of fun .
That's Tara on a hike but it's at Tara dot on dot a dot hike . Give her a follow , Check her out . Ton of fun . Maybe you have a place that you like to adventure to . Maybe you have a hobby or activity that is adventurous that you think would be fun to talk about on the podcast . Doesn't hurt to ask .
Reach out to me , Jake , at journeywithjakenet , by email or send me a message on Instagram at journeywithjakepodcast . I would like to hear about it . Maybe we can get you on the show . Talk about your adventures as well . Just remember , it's not always about the destination as it is about the journey . Take care everyone .