Breaking Free: From 80-Hour Workweeks to Digital Nomad Life with Ryan Mellon

My guest today , ryan Mellon , is not only a digital nomad himself , but also a coach who helps others navigate the path to this unconventional lifestyle the path to this unconventional lifestyle . Through his coaching services , ryan guides aspiring digital nomads on how to build a sustainable , location-independent career .

Today , ryan will share his own adventures and insights from life on the road , offering a glimpse into the world of digital nomadism and the freedom and challenges it brings . So sit back and enjoy Ryan Mellon's incredible journey . Welcome to Journey with Jake .

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Not only will you be entertained , but you'll also hear the failures and trials , as they share experiences and stories from the different adventures they have been on . Not only will you be entertained , but you will also hear the failures and trials each guest faces and what they have done or are doing to overcome the hardships that come their way .

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Hello everyone and welcome to the show . My name is Jake Bushman and I'm the host of Journey with Jake . Today , I had the privilege of speaking with digital nomad coach Ryan Mellon . Fun fact , in the middle of our conversation , we actually lost connection for about 10 minutes .

Thankfully , the magic of editing means you won't even notice it happened , but it's a reminder of the reality of chatting with someone who's literally a world away , in Ryan's case , all the way in Bali . Before we dive into my conversation with Ryan , I want to mention that Journey with Jake is part of the Podmatch Podcast Network .

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Drop by , say hi , share your favorite episode and let me know if there's someone you'd like to hear on the show . Maybe it's you . I'm truly grateful I had the chance to speak with Ryan . His journey from grinding through long work hours to embracing life as a digital nomad is inspiring .

If you enjoy this episode , I think you'll also love episode 40 with Jackie Carbo , where she shares her experiences pursuing travel and remote work . All right , let's jump into my conversation with Ryan Mellon , all right ? Well , I am excited today I've got Ryan . Is it Mellon ? Did I say it right ?

It was a little bit grueling . I was reading some books like Four Hour Workweek and Vagabonding by Rolf Potts , and listening to travel bloggers and I really started getting excited about getting out and seeing the world . So I booked a flight to Costa Rica .

I was able to manage to get two weeks off from both my jobs at the same time , which took a ton of negotiation . I flew to Costa Rica by myself and did my very first solo travel trip . I didn't speak any of the language . I had no plan , I just flew into San Jose . I had a place booked for the first night , our first couple nights , and that's it .

And then I figured it out from there and it was an amazing journey . Those two weeks I ended up meeting tons of cool people from all over the world .

Some of them were traveling for like months and years on end which I didn't even realize was a thing Ended up on both coasts of Costa Rica in the jungles , ziplining through the jungle , climbing volcanoes , swimming in their crater lake .

It was just a really eye-opening experience , especially to be able to do it alone and meet friends and make friends while I was there . And then just having such a great experience , when I came back to both my jobs , I was not like refreshed to go back to work , like I just had this great vacation .

I was like really like wow , I'm , what I'm doing now is not sustainable . I hate it and like I want out as soon as possible . I told both my jobs I was like give me one year and I'm out of here , like , and they thought I was just joking . To be honest , that's , that's pretty much what happened . It was a little bit more than a year .

So I went back to both my jobs . I was hanging out having some drinks with my best friend and his wife one night and they were like you know , when we retire , we really want to take a road trip of the US and and see the states and just take our time . And I'm like let's do this now .

Like I just I'm coming off this high of going to Costa Rica and stuff . I'm like , let's , let's figure this out and do it now while we're young . Like why not ? So I convinced them to quit their jobs and I quit both my jobs . We did save up enough money .

The game plan was for us to just save , save , save to have enough money to get us through that year road trip . So we did that and we quit our jobs and we hit the road October of 2017 . And we hopped in an RV and we did 23 states over that one year and it was just an amazing adventure .

But halfway through the year I realized it was really coming to an end quite quickly . So I was like , man , I'm going to have to go back to my both my jobs or figure something new out when we get home . And like I don't want to do that . Like what we're doing now , like traveling , is just awesome .

So I've got my real estate license previously , so I have my two jobs and I had started dabbling in real estate . So I called up a good friend of mine who was a real estate investor who was doing a lot of volume on properties like flipping houses , buying rentals , stuff like that .

I says , is there any way I can help you while I'm on this road trip , while I'm out of state , buying deals ?

And she's like absolutely you know , and during this time we had a lot of foreclosures on the market , so we just really started targeting , buying those up , and so , between me and partnering with another agent in my office who could be the boots on the ground , I was the guy like just blasting out contracts on like 10 houses a week and we ended up doing like

20 to 25 deals in those last six months of my road trip . And that's when I realized like , oh , wow , like I don't have to go back to my jobs , like I'm making money and traveling . So that was kind of the epiphany for me .

That road trip ended , my friends went back to work and I stayed home for just a couple of months and then I got on a plane and flew to New Zealand and I did eight countries and six months , all while working , and that was really the beginning of me being a digital nomad .

Since then I've been working and running my businesses from 23 US states and 22 countries . I usually travel every winter and I'm home in the summer , so I call myself a hybrid nomad .

You know it's a one-bedroom apartment on the water and it doesn't cost me too much . You know it keeps my costs down and I'm not going out and buying big screen tvs and new couches because I have nowhere to put it . So it really does help like , uh , keep my costs down while I'm gone .

So right now , the boats because it's virginia , we don't have to pull the boats out of the water in the winter . It doesn't get get that cold , so it stays in its slip all winter .

And so my cost because I was able to pay for the boat that I have in cash my costs are just my slip fee , a tiny bit of electric that's not being used , and insurance while I'm gone . So it really it's not . Too I don't have this huge mortgage or anything like that , which really helps me to be able to just hop away .

like you're . You're in that nomad frame of mind . Even when you're staying on the boat in the summer , you still kind of you know you're able to hop away quickly if you need to . That's a good thing .

Right , let's go back to your childhood for a minute , Virginia .

You know keeping that place running , fixing ice cream machines and deep fryers , and you know doing that during the day and helping out , running , bringing up customers and running the drive through all that stuff and then warehouse work at night . So , yeah , it was a lot .

Did you have any idea at the time what this was going to do for you ?

But I think I did a lot of preparation and the fact that I read a lot about solo travel Nomadic Matt is a big blogger still that I read a lot , and then reading 4-Hour Workweek and Vegabonding really we're like I've got to just try it and if it all goes to shit , I can you know I can I can come back and just go back to my jobs .

So getting away to somewhere warmer in the winter was also a huge bonus . And it's a small country right , so it's pretty easy to get around and see a lot in two weeks . So I think that was one of the biggest things that led me to Costa Rica .

This was like my very first hostel experience and that changed everything for me , because now you're in a place with a bunch of other solo travelers , we're all in the same boat and it's really a 10X surfer , making new friends and meeting new people .

And also what was good about it was it was near the airport and I was staying two nights , so you had a lot of people that just arrived , but you had a lot of people that have done the whole country and now they're flying home , so I was able to just talk with them over drinks in the evenings by the pool .

You know like you're leaving , you know where are you going , but , more importantly , like , tell me your top five things you've just done here in Costa Rica . And a lot of several things kept coming up , places and things to do .

And then from there , that's when I just started like OK , this is my next destination , and just kind of picking it out on the map and going , because if you have everything planned out . There's no room for like serendipity , right ?

Or like just new experiences and meeting someone and being like , oh , we really get along , they're going here , I can go here with them , you know . So like having no plan is really how I've been traveling ever since I always plan at least my hotel . Now I'm in a villa in Bali and I stay in long-term places .

I'm not in hostels anymore I think I've aged myself out of that but there's still plenty of ways to meet people , even when you're staying in hotels or airbnbs or apartments .

I mean , like when you fly in there , were you like what am I doing ? I mean , did you ever have any second thoughts ?

bit of Spanish now and get around Spanish now , but I couldn't then and like I just remember being like because I only do carry-ons , I was like the first one off the plane , out the doors at the airport , and I just got like hit with the people that are like all ready to take you , you know , trying to get you , take you to your hotel and stuff , and like

just being overwhelmed with that . And like you know , you always worry about like getting in the wrong vehicle with the wrong person . But I did my research on the proper transportation to take and stuff and so it is a little bit scary . So you need to think ahead on some of those things .

As soon as I started meeting people in the hospital and seeing other people there that were also traveling solo , you know , you just start to build that confidence day by day .

I never seen it , I've heard about it and I won't watch it . But I've stayed in over 100 hostels . So when I was beginning , I was younger and I didn't have a lot of money , and so hostels are very inexpensive . You have like dorm rooms where you sleep , you know , just bunk bed situation with other folks that are traveling as well .

The great thing about hostels is and they also most have private rooms as well , so you have the options and then also times you'll have like guys rooms and girls rooms . So like for solo female travelers , some might be more comfortable in an all girls room . There is a sense of community , there's lots of .

You have the room but you only literally keep your stuff there and you sleep there . The rest of the place is like pool , restaurant , bar , open areas outdoors , so it's a lot of co-mingling space . So really you're hanging out in those spaces and you're only going to the room to sleep and that's it .

So it's not like you know , a lot of people think of sharing a room with some strangers . It's like , oh no , it'd be terrible , but you're never in there , you're just sleeping .

So a lot of places have pool tables and foosball tables , and most of them have pools in these areas , so there's just a lot of area to meet other people and co-mingle and it's a lot of backpackers and it's a younger crowd for sure , definitely the twenties crowd , twenties , mid thirties . And some of the hostels you need to filter through right .

Some of these are like just straight party hostels and that's all that's happening and you're not going to get as much sleep . So if you're into that and you're younger , that's fine , but as you get older , you might not . You know , you kind of tend to be like all right , you know , I like actually need to get some sleep .

If I want to go zip lining tomorrow or do this or whatever , I can't party every night of the week . You need to start choosing your hostels wisely . I've up until I even last year in Denmark I stayed in a hostel and there are some really classy hostels and it can really reduce your expenses .

You can also get private rooms and hostels now too , with en suite baths and stuff like that , and if you're a solo traveler , it's still a great place to meet people . And so now I've moved on to more like long-term stays . Like I have this villa here for a month . It's an Airbnb and I have a little because I'm working and having calls and stuff like that .

It's just a little bit better environment for me now that I'm in my late thirties too as well .

I had my friend from Germany fly into the States twice already to hang out and we met in the basement of a hostel in Australia on like pizza and 50 cent beer night , you know , many years ago before COVID .

So yeah , you do make friends that you keep around and keep in touch with on on Facebook and I have traveled with them and met up with them since then and gone to their home countries and vice versa . So , yeah , you do make some lasting friendships from from staying in a hostel .

I mean , was it like , was it tough to get through the year ?

We're going to go south to Florida , to the Keys , and we're going to try and stay south all winter , so we're in the warmest part as we progress through the winter . And that worked out pretty good . Like we had Thanksgiving in Key West on the RV , like the ocean , a hundred feet away . It was once .

Once we had that date to leave , I was just so focused on just getting my savings to where it needed to be so that I didn't have to work for a year . And like it's so surprising how quickly you can cut out , just like so many things that are not important to make that happen . And one thing I will say is like we both own houses .

At that time we had cars , so we had to figure that stuff out and we ended up renting our houses out . That house that I ran out , my very first house that I bought . I've never lived there since I rented it out for that trip and I've not been back . And that's been almost eight years , I guess .

started sending out contracts so you could stay on the road , which is cool , cause I think , like what'd you say ? Six months in , you're like this is going faster than I want it to . So how do you , how do people do this ? Cause you're a coach . You coach people on being a digital nomad .

If someone's out there saying , man , I want to do what Ryan's doing , how do you do it ? Get just a dirty short version of it , I guess .

That's the kind of the decision that they need to make , and some people just fly under their radar and don't tell their employer and it works . Some people ask so you have the employees . Then you have the freelancers that are usually like doing like their virtual assistants or digital marketers or content creators .

Those are the probably like the top three , that are pretty easy to get into on a beginner's level , entry level . And then you're doing freelance work , like online through sites like Fiverr and Upwork , and you're taking on clients one at a time and working with different clients , right .

And so you have the freelancers , and I would say that makes up probably about 70 percent of the digital nomad community is the freelancers . And then you have another good chunk that are entrepreneurs that own businesses , like me , that run their businesses from the road .

The best way to it really depends on where you feel most comfortable in those three areas of starting to become a digital nomad , like , do you just want to work a remote job and clock in and clock out during these hours and you have your free time ?

Or do you want to have to have a little bit more freedom as a freelancer but you've got to hustle to find those clients and keep them going . But your income is , you know , adjustable .

Like you have control of that , like you're really good at what you do and you pump out a lot of clients and you create more value and you increase your prices , you can make more money . And then business owners you know it's also the same it has the most responsibility . Of course , the sky's the limit on your income as well .

Right , they don't have a house or apartment or anything like home base , which is nice in the sense that you have none of those expenses . Right , because I'm home six months a year at summertime , when it's a good time to be home , I can still reconnect with friends and family .

Also , because I have a portfolio of rental properties , my leases don't expire until it gets to springtime . Technically , I should only have turnovers and if I want to buy a new property and renovate it , I'm there for all of that .

So it's kind of like my grind season for real estate is being home in the summertime , then in the wintertime it just goes to managing things , because I do manage my properties personally , which it gets a lot quieter , and usually I don't have move outs .

I'm doing the coaching all year round and the coaching can be done from anywhere , and that's basically just one-on-one coaching right now , helping people become digital nomads , but over the next two weeks I'm actually shooting like a five to 10 hour video course of how to become a digital nomad , breaking down all the steps .

That people can buy the course and it's going to reach a lot more people because it's a lot more affordable than my one-on-one coaching , of course , because it doesn't involve my time as much , and then I'm gonna , once that's out , we'll have like a option to upgrade to just a small monthly cost to do weekly calls so we can do q and a's and kind of like

group coaching for those people that have gone through the course . So that's kind of what I'm working on right now while I'm here in Bali .

The world has became so much more digital nomad friendly in so many ways so that , as well as you're seeing a lot more like co-living and co-working spaces pop up , you have a lot of digital nomad hotspots , which are like places where lots of digital nomads group , and Bali is definitely one of them . Chiang Mai and Thailand is another one .

Portugal , buenos Aires , mexico City You've got a lot of these places . Medellin and Colombia that are just have this huge digital nomad community . So you have that support . You have the co-working spaces . With the fast internet , you can go to a co-living space which is kind of like .

It's almost like a hostel in the sense that you're there with other strangers but you have your . It's a older it's not as much of a younger crowd usually , but you have your own private . Everyone has their own private room , and sometimes these can be like in mansions in the countryside that they've converted into .

You know with a bunch of rooms and so you have your own room and you're there with 10 other people but you have a lot of community space and the internet's really good and a lot . You guys go down and kind of work your days together . Even though everyone's doing their own thing . You're working together .

There's like group dinners and you group outings and stuff like that . So also there's now 66 digital nomad visas out there now , 66 countries with digital nomad visas . New Zealand just added theirs last week . So it's a little bit shorter of a digital nomad visa than I'd like to see .

They only give you 90 days , but there's no minimum income requirements that a lot of countries have . In the past we all kind of flew under the radar on tourist visas working remotely .

But the problem with that is usually they're like 30 to 60 day visas , so you got to get extensions or you got to do a border run , which is to leave the country , come back , get a new stamp . So now that's taken out of the equation .

So like right now I'm here in Bali on a one year digital Nomad visa that I'm technically a resident and I can open bank accounts , I get discounts on medical and stuff because I'm a resident . I can get longer term leases at cheaper rates because they know I'm allowed to be here for these times .

It really has gotten a lot more friendly to be a digital nomad , as well as Starlink , like places that didn't have access to great internet . They can just put Starlink on the roof and you can

be in the middle of nowhere , and now you're good .

Tell me some of your I don't know some of your best experiences , maybe , maybe a couple of stories about for you seeing the world and what it's been like .

They were also digital nomads while they because this whole experience was to scout out the area before they launched after COVID to do the charters and so , yeah , like I got to stay on a catamaran like on floating crystal water , wake up every morning and seeing like dolphins swimming around the boat , you can just hop in the water and swim with dolphins and then

spent the day working on my laptop . Back then Starlink was still not a thing yet , so we would I always have a hotspot like a digital , like a global hotspot that runs on SIM cards and we would get local SIM cards and work like that and that worked okay . So that was a good experience . That .

And also we were isolated from people , right , like we're on anchor , just a couple of people on this big boat , and we would go to shore and there were a couple of restaurants open not a whole lot .

I mean Bahamas , the Exumas at that time was like all to ourselves , because usually there's three to 400 boats in that anchorage and at that time I think there was maybe like 80 . So it was just like you had the whole place here . So that comes to mind for like COVID experience .

And then since then , like some of the most memorable experiences , is Vietnam , the North , doing the Haijiang loop . It's called the Haijiang loop , so it's a four day motorcycle trip through the northern mountains of Vietnam and it goes all the way up to the Chinese border and it's just this one big loop .

And so you show up in the middle of the night I was trying to find my hostel and then the streets , like three in the morning by myself and like had dogs barking . It was all sketchy situation .

But I got to my place and the next morning they give you a motorcycle for the day to get acclimated , and it's like it's not a full blownblown motorcycle , it's got gears but you don't need to use a clutch . So they give it to you to kind of get get a feel for how to ride and stuff .

And if you don't want to ride , there were a lot of people that would just hire a guy right and it was just a dude on a bike and you would sit on the back and he you do the haisheng loop , like that . So if , if you're not comfortable riding , you could do that , but they would put us into groups of like 10 .

And then we'd go and everything was planned out . It was like 255 miles over the four days . It's like all these super cool mountainous roads like through the north .

The views were absolutely stunning and like the very first place we stayed in is in the middle of nowhere countryside , almost like a barn with a second floor where we all just slept on the floor , like side by side in two different rooms , and then on the first floor there was like a little kitchen , a little like living area with one light bulb and they put

out a huge spread of food for us . They had one karaoke machine and the v in vietnam karaoke is huge and they all got us . They all got us a little bit drunk on , like the local moonshine .

So we were all just like singing karaoke through , you know , until like one in the morning , then waking up , not feeling like riding another eight hours through the mountains , but we all got through it .

And then , you know , we had a couple more nights just like that , where they have planned stops and these little countryside , towns and stuff , and like you felt like you're on the tour de france because you're like going through these little vietnamese villages in the north and the north the most northern part of Vietnam is very rural and it's not too developed and

you see , like kids helping farming the land and like you know , move , moving cattle and stuff and like they're high-fiving you as you go through the village and stuff on your bike . Like you know , like they don't see a lot of people like from outside , like foreigners , you know , in their , in their area , other than on motorcycles .

So second day , eight hours on of of driving and then staying in another place , and just beautiful mountains , the North , and and just how amazing it was to like see , because the north of Vietnam , like outside of Hanoi , is very rural and there you know just a lot of rice fields and farming .

So you see kids like helping out with farming , like pushing , you know , herds of cattle through the streets , you know , and they're this tall , you know . Yeah , just some amazing experiences , just seeing like the nature and all of that we went up to the Chinese border , checked that out and over those four days it was just like an incredible experience .

I will say that it was like way colder than I expected because it was like the North and the mountains and when you come to Southeast Asia you don't pack like gloves and jackets and stuff . So every chance I we got when we stopped anywhere we're all buying like more layers because none of us brought the warm , warm enough clothes for this trip .

And it was exhausting like after the four days I just like booked a really nice hotel , just slept for like two days . Incredible trip . And it was really cool to see just the nature of Northern Vietnam .

Even at the airport , trying took three hours to clear immigration . It was just chaos and no one knew what was going on . There was very little english even in the airport . They wanted like us dollars as a fee and like who is ? Luckily I'm an american and I always have some emergency us dollars .

But there were other people there like how are we gonna pay these fees ? And they wanted us dollars . So I was actually giving out us dollars to other people and they were like sent venmoing me money and stuff . But yeah , it's , it's , it's a , it's a different one . And like just crossing the street in the city in Vietnam is like it's a little terrifying .

You've seen probably videos or like Anthony Bourdain or whatever and like just the packs of motorcycles , oh yeah , just everywhere . And the only way to cross the street is just go and pray and like they don't hit you . It works . To cross the street is just go and pray and like they don't hit you .

It works , but like that's that's the only strategy , is you just kind of leapfrog your way through this and it's a little . It's a little terrifying , but it's a very cool place . It works out every time . They know they know how to maneuver around people that

are trying to cross the street , but there's not going to be like a time where they're all stopped and there's a crosswalk yeah , it's not happening , gotcha , wow , amazing .

It's gotten a lot better than it used to be , but it's still a challenge in some countries where the internet is not as good as home , of course , so that's a big one , and there's ways of looking for accommodations that have good internet that I do .

So bookingcom is my number one place to book , like hotels and apartments , and there's a place for the people to rate the Wi-Fi on its own , so that's a great place to start . Airbnb now allows the host to hook up the Airbnb app and test their internet and post it on their site .

And if it's not posted and you really like a place , search the reviews for internet Wi-Fi , make sure if it's bad or good , people are going to write about it , and if you can't find anything , message the host ahead of time and say , hey , can you test the speed , take a screenshot and send it to me . So that's definitely a challenge .

Another challenge is like it can . Sometimes it can be lonely if you're solo traveling on the road , but it's really as much effort that you're putting in into it .

I oftentimes , if I find myself being lonely , it's because I'm just like staying at home and I'm not getting out the door and like going to a co-working for the day , or like going out to a time left at dinner where you book a table with five strangers . So there's plenty of places to meet people . You just need to put in the effort .

So that's a thing that is a challenge as well . Other than that , I would say like if you travel too fast , if you travel a lot of countries quickly , it's really easy to get burnt out . So I always tell people like start slow , go slow . You want to max out your visas , especially if you're on a tourist visa and pretty much all your places .

Get in a routine , really absorb the culture , get to know the area where you can walk around and not need Google Maps , and meet locals and have a routine so that you're not on a plane and being jet lagged and like having to block out travel , work days to travel and like then changing time zones , like all that stuff can be very stressful .

So going slow , more slow , is like the best way to prevent that .

years that you've been doing this , is there any particular place that comes to mind that if you only have one place that you can go back to , where would it be ?

I do love Bali because the cost of living here is very low . There's most beautiful beaches . It's one of Indonesia's 17,000 islands so just for those that don't know and it's about the size of Maryland , the state of Maryland .

It doesn't seem like a lot of distance to get from place to place , but the traffic is like terrible here because the streets are built for like two golf carts and that's about it , and you've got SUVs and tons of scooters and motorbikes and stuff , so it is challenging getting to other parts , but it's . It's not .

It's not like angry traffic , like New Yorker traffic , like everyone's chill , no one's honking their horn . We all get through it . So but I do love Bali for like the locals are like the most friendly through it . So , but I do love Bali for like the locals are like the most friendly , inviting people . They're so amazing .

They'll help you out if you need anything . They're great very low cost of living , eating , you know , eating out , laundry , transportation , all that . Even finding places to rent can be , you know , anywhere from $500 a month up sky's the limit if you want a private villa with a private pool and stuff , and there's a lot to do here .

You have Ubud , which is like rainforest , and they have a monkey sanctuary there and they have rice fields and rice terraces and you can ATV through the jungle . It's a huge spot for surfers . And then there's also lots of smaller islands off the coast that are pretty cool as well , that you can get to by boat .

So I've been to probably about 10 or 11 islands in indonesia , some some of the cool ones , like nusa penida . There's a very unique beach there , clinking beach , that you've probably seen on instagram . It's like named one of the top beaches in the world .

Then you have the gilly islands , which are like three islands and three really small islands off the coast here , where magic mushrooms just grow out of the ground . It's like perfectly legal there , like they just like serve it up in milkshakes at the bar and everyone goes .

And watches the sunset , and the sunsets are already amazing on their own throw in some mushrooms and yeah , it's , it's just . It's just a very interesting vibe . No vehicles like allowed , the motorbikes or anything allowed on the island , so it's you just walk . Or if you have a lot of luggage , it's like horse and carriage .

It's pretty crazy vibes , like very different vibes from Bali , but I just I love Bali for so many different reasons and that's why I'm here . So I'm actually looking at some real estate , maybe buying some , maybe buying a place here and Airbnb-ing it when I'm gone .

I think I have enough income coming in through my rentals to cover my monthly expenses passively , so this coaching is really all about something that I'm doing that fills a void of helping other people and like more mission based , so I'm really excited about it .

I've been doing the one on one for about a year and a half , but having a community and having courses to sell . I'm really excited about having that to be able to help more people at a much better price point as well , and just being a hybrid nomad , being home on the sailboat in the summer and maybe here in Bali every winter . So that's as of right now .

That's what what it's looking like .

And then , after you get that free guide , you can also book a free 30 minute strategy session with me if you're interested on the coaching , so I can kind of help you figure out a game plan . And also you'll be the first to know once the courses and community are launched , which will be somewhere in March , so coming soon .

And then I am the digital nomad coach on Instagram , facebook and YouTube .

pretty neat . My final question it's a question I ask everybody on the show is for you , then , what does adventure mean to you ?

I think it's just that excitement that you get with your day of living this type of lifestyle .

If you'd like to learn more about Ryan and grab his free guide , Seven Ways to Become a Digital Nomad , head over to the digitalnomadcoachcom . You can also follow him on Instagram at the digital nomad coach and check out his podcast , Digital Nomad Nation , for more valuable insights .

Ryan , thank you once again for sharing your story with all of us and , of course , a huge thank you to all of you for tuning in each week . Your feedback and support truly mean the world to me . If you enjoy the show , it would be amazing if you could take a moment and leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify .

It helps more people discover the show . If not , no worries , I'm just grateful you're here and I hope you find a bit of enjoyment and maybe even some motivation from each episode . Be sure to join me next week for another great conversation . I'll be speaking with John Cheney , an entrepreneur from my home state of Utah and a talented pianist .

We'll dive into his adventures as a musician and entrepreneur . It's a conversation you won't want to miss . Just remember , it's not always about the destination , as it is about the journey . Take care everybody .