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The Case Against Steven Tyler

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Joe Escalante's weekly dive into the business end of showbiz. This week: the latest box office numbers. Also, AI is taking over everything, and Scarlet Johannson Is not a fan... Even with a disclaimer saying that it isn't really her, she's worried that people will think that the AI is actually her. And Joe rips apart Aerosmith's Steven Tyler for being a terrible person in the 1970s.

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Joe Ascolante Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood, you mean Burbank across the street from a Wiener Schnitzer, a Wiener Schnitzel that serves beer. It's it's appropriate to pronounce that with the proper German because that is a proper German restaurant across the street. Here they're having another Saley. You know what. They brought back, the North Korean Fusion tacos, So everybody's excited about that. It's

bigger than the McRib. I mean you can see the like, can you look out the window now and see the lines out front of that Wiener Schnitzel. It is packed all the way to the what's it called the chick fil A? The chick fil A? Yeah, I me and Chick fil A is closed today, so it's it might be a little bit of that. People go into the Chick fil A and then they see it's closed, and they go over to that Wiener Schnitzel, get a beer and a North Korean

Fusion taco. But we are here to talk about the business end of show business, and we do this every Sunday from five to seven. I want to add that we're the first people to ever do this. You know, that's Sam. I've been doing this since two thousand and six, the first people to ever do a show on radio. Yes, but now there's like one hundred of these in the podcast world. They're all bigger and more successful and make more money than mine. But you know what, you have to

be humbled to be before you can be exalted. We're underground, So we are underground. AM radio eleven fifty on your AM dial. All right, let's get to the show business. Box office pretty dismal, right now, going to a dismal period. But in the theaters we have a few notable things happening. Number one in the movie box office. What's your guess, I have no idea. I have not even gone downstairs. There's like I'm guessing maybe no, Marvel's comes out next week. I don't know, Oh

five nights at Freddy's. Ahah. Yeah. It was Halloween and all the kids dragged their parents out to see it, and then the parents were like trying to cover their kids eyes throughout the most of it is that the word on the street for that movie it was it was actually like they made it

have like actual scary stuff. It was pretty realistic. Stuff from what I understand, Well, it's done one hundred and thirteen million at the box office, and I'm sure they didn't spend that much money on now maybe they did not on AMC's Taylor Swift. The I don't know why they call that AMC. AMC is actually a distributor of distributor of the of the Taylor Swift movie. That is one hundred and sixty five total millions at the box office thirteen.

So that's These are two old movies that are the number one and number two, number three Killers of the Flower Moon, the worst movie ever made, is now creeping up in the box office rankings, but it was dropping and number four and limited release A twenty four's Priscilla, the story of Priscilla Presley married to Elvis at like well, I don't know, fourteen or something

like that. So that's a salacious story. And it's they're billing it as people are talking about it as this is the stuff they didn't show you in the Elvis movie. I heard it's fantastic, only did about five million. It's a as I said, A limited release Number five at the in the box office is a movie called Radical. Now this is like it's his story about these sixth graders in Matamorris, Mexico, and I think it's some feel good story. But that's doing pretty well. It's not playing at my theater.

Panteon Films is the studio they have like a I think Panteon has a a pentellion. I think they have like a streaming service with a bunch of Spanish movies. Number six Exorcists The Believer. I still haven't seen it because I can't see it with my wife and she doesn't like these kinds of movies. But I still will see it eventually after death. Number seven is from

Angel Studios. Angel Studios who stunned the world with their Sounds of Freedom movie earlier in the year, and they keep churning out more movies and they're making money. This movie probably cost about two million to make. It's a documentary about near death experiences. Sam, have you ever had one of those? Every morning when I wake up? Yes, hilarious, this is funny radio. Well, it's done nine million at the box office so far for a

movie that probably costs two million. So another successful I mean these Christian movie This is like in the Christian movie genre, near death experiences. I'll talk about a little more after I get done with the top ten. We have What Happens Later? Wait, Paw Patrol, which you saw or you didn't see, did not see? My kid is a little too old for that to think it's cool. Yeah, I heard from other parents. It's a good movie and it's doing well, very successful, sixty two million so far.

What Happens Later is a bleaker street film directed by Meg Ryan or not directed by Meg Ryan, or Meg Ryan's in it. Meg Ryan is in it? When was she in anything? It's like welcome back to the to the uh to the movie business like is the story. She did direct it and it's you know, it's a rom com kind of thing with David Dukeveny. Sounds about right. But when was the last movie? What was the last movie she was in? It's been a while. She was like the

biggest female lead that you could have in any movie. Her and Tom Hanks were like making magic everywhere they went, and then she fell off the earth. Yeah, it's very strange, and she probably went off and lived her life. You know, she probably she wasn't in jail. I'm pretty sure, I hope. So, So yeah, what Happens Later is number nine, Limited release Freelance number ten. It's like a John Cena movie that's like an action thing that's probably abysmal. But what did what did your host see?

Did you did the did the engineer see anything? Did you see anything? Oh, you're the engineer. This is not engineer, actually, because that's what it sounds like. You didn't see anything. You didn't even go downstairs. When you say downstairs, you mean the movie theater that you live above. Yeah. No, I avoided going downstairs pretty much for the whole week. I was. I messed up my knee, so going anywhere was pretty difficult. Okay, I'm sorry for your pain. I saw something because

you know, I got to see something. Been very busy this week with a lot of stuff that I'll talk about later but not today, big things in the escalante world. But I saw After Death from Angel Studios. I was going there. I was gonna go see you went to the movies. I was gonna go see. Ah, I forgot what I was going to see. I was going to see something, you know, normal, and

then I go, you know what, I think? I think my wife and I will enjoy this after death and better and it was very well made, said documentary about people with near death experiences, so they interview them, they reenact stuff. I like reenactments because I do that professionally for documentaries and for my own shows. So the reenactments were top shelf and that helps a

lot. So you're watching cinema, you know, you're you're there's a reason to be in the theater, and the story were compelling, and you know, near death experiences are kind of like, well, you can explain it a lot of ways, but then when everyone has the same you're like start to think, well, maybe these there's more to these if everyone's having the

same one. And then you might think, well, maybe there's like a collective consciousness and people are hearing other people's and then so they're you know, they're just dreaming. Are they just dreaming? But then people are able to hover above their body in the operating room when they're pronounced dead and explain, and when they come back, they tell people what was in what was happening

in the room, and things they could not have known. Then you get into the like you know, the paranormal realm or the mystical religious realm. So it's you know, it's all bigger than all of us and very well made. And then they get into the dark ones too. Not everybody goes to heaven and sees a you know, a beautiful blonde Jesus. Sometimes it's

a dark experience and they come back from that. And so it's it's pretty if you if you don't believe in an after life, and if you especially specifically Christianity, even though they don't really mention Christianity hardly at all here. It's just it's just, you know what what happens to people. You won't like this movie, and you might be like some people that are calling it propaganda, but you know whatever I mean, Angel Studios there, they do

have a message. Hey, there's there's a life after death, so behave yourself. Is that that's maybe the message of that of that company. And some people don't like that there is life after death, behave your self message, and we all know why they because they think that somebody is going to tell them not to lead a debauchery life or a pleasant life, and they're

gonna be someone's gonna give them a bunch of rules. But in any case, the Christians are making a lot of movies and they're making good movies and they're making a ton of money. So people are taking notice. How much time we got. Should we take a break and check the traffic. Let's take a bit of a break and check the traffic. All right, we are now checking taking a break and checking the traffic on Sclante Live from Hollywood, Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood. We are back and we are talking about

the business end of show business like we do every Sunday. Here O K E I B eleven fifty on your AM dial back to the movies. Here. The the biggest movie in streaming right now, sam is None too anuin two Yes monhat dose as it's known in the Spanish speaking world. Uh, it's it's it came to streaming so far, so close to when it was in the box office that that it's it's uh. People are freaking about out about that too. Forgot why. But anyway, speaking of streaming, Windows

and the Five Nights at Freddy's is still killing at the box office. Number one. It is also available on streaming. So even though it's available on streaming, people need to go see it at the box office. That that's what they're telling everybody. Nice, So it's good to see that finally, people like if they have the option to stay home, they're not, yes exactly, And it seemed like there was another like, you know, sort of a COVID scare coming for a while, but that I is it.

You're in a different world to me. I'm down here in Orange County. You're up in la are you? Are you in that same sense? There was a COVID scare and then it went away, or you think it's still going there was because everybody caught it, and then everybody got better. Everybody realized that you don't really die from it this kind now or very rare. Well, I mean it's for example, my co parent had it. We both had it. I've had pretty mild symptoms. She had to go to

the hospital. The difference was between here now and how things were a couple of years ago. They gave her a pill, so medication that knocked it out within a comp day. She was fine, and I understand she had a near death experience and she yeah, she re evaluated together for a little bit. How did that work out? We survived. It was near death, but we made it okay individually, Okay, Yeah, So people are going out one thing I did well, I can recommend one more thing in

the entertainment world is oh my gosh. It seems like for a year my brother kept telling me, hey, you should watch you know, season four, episode three of the Twilight Zone. It's a it's a one hour Twilight Zone or even longer, I guess if you added commercials on it. But it's total fifty the original series. Yes, it's a fifty one minute episode of a Twilight Zone and it's called Valley of the Shadow reference to the Old Testament there, Okay. He kept telling me to watch it, and my

brother watches Twilight Zones over and over. He gets together with friends and they watched like, you know, watch it together virtually online or whatever together, you know, the these kind of things where people watch shows together while they're on the phone with each other. I guess, so he does that. He kept telling me, you got to watch this thing, and I I didn't get around to it. But I have paramount plus, which is a paramoun plus. If you have that, you have every Twilight Zone episode at

your disposal. Some people have them all on DVDs and you know, but if you have paramount plus, they're just sitting there anytime you want them. So I finally went and watched it. Sensational. So the episode is called Valley of the Shadow, and it's about a guy who comes into a small

town. Classic Twilight Zone type plot, goes into a small town and he's got to get gassed and he's lost, and he ends up being stuck in the town, and you know, it's a weird society of people that have discovered peace and equality, but they have a secret that has been bestowed upon them that allows them to keep their world the way it is. And now that he's seen it, they can't let him out because part of their bylaws is knowing If any outsiders find out about this, then you have to eliminate

them. They either have to join you and join the society, or you have to eliminate them. And it's kind of one of those maybe it's an allegory or a I don't know the English language that well, but the communism versus Freedom movies and Twilight Zone episodes and that were made a lot in the

fifties, like High Noon is one. So do you choose this equal utopian paradise or do you choose which is you know, maybe kills your inner soul or do you choose freedom where people have the freedom to kill each other and commit evil and and that's a pretty common theme in twilet zones and a lot of movies in the fifties. So I recommend that the Valley of the Shadow, I think it's season four, episode three or twy the Zone. It's like a movie because it's long. Okay, it's kind of like like maybe

The Black Panther. The Black Panther comic book came out not too long after this episode came out, and that's like a society that you know, has discovered a peaceful way to live and the outsiders aren't welcome and you either have to assimilate or you have to leave. Kind of like the Prisoner little TV show. Anyway, good one, interesting comparison. I like that. Yeah, So it's it's not a you know, it's not a new theme, but it's an in it's and it's you know, continues. Maybe Avatar.

Avatar is kind of like that you have this wonderful society, but you have to be blue, so you know, Okay. Also in the television world, we have a little mini scandal that popped up this week. Sam, You're gonna like this one. In twenty twenty, the then president of Original Programming, Casey Bloyse of HBO anice to work for HBO just I mean, who cares? But whatever, Casey Bloyse, he's still there, by the

way, now he's the CEO and chairman, but he was. He said someone needed to go on a mission, and what they needed to do was create basically fake Twitter accounts and go after the TV critics. And he was at first irked by a tweet from a Vulture TV critic, Catherine Van Aarandanc who who had some thoughts on the Perry Mason HBO series and she thought it was weak and blah blah blah, and she wrote, dear press to ch TV, please find some way to communicate male trauma besides showing me a flashback

to the hero's memories of trench warfare. Okay, that's a fair criticism, you know, No, I'd actually agree with that. That is pretty fair. A lot of the like, when you have flashbacks to you know, what made a man a man, usually it flashes back to some kind of military combat. Yeah, yeah, trench warfare, like classic, and it's like you got nothing else? Is that all you could come up and it is I think it's fair. It's like think for five minutes. You know,

you got all these writers in the writer room. Let's have five minutes and let's think of do we have anything else besides trench warfare that this guy might have gone through in his youth. And you know, let's me and me brainstorm right now. Maybe we can fix this. Like, Okay, Catholic school, maybe a lot of people traumatized by nuns hitting them. I've seen those in some movies. But yeah, that's one we can run with. Yeah, it's not very original. But and maybe he bullied in high

school. I've seen that one. Yeah, made fun of in high school. But I guess after a while they started probably going through these and they're like, well, maybe he's Jewish and they called them you know, and that's what happened in the Steven Spielberg movie. It seemed a little try to beat you over the head with his and there you know, all these these

things that happened in the movies, they're always so black and white. Maybe we got to think ahead, like, you know, instead of like looking backwards and thinking this is what is usually you know, what we've already seen. We got a look towards the future with like VR. Somebody raided virtually raided my bank account and took all of my money. And now I got get my revenge or something. Uh yeah, revenge point. But I mean, if it's a flashback, I don't know how you look ahead, but

you know you're I mean, you have to set further. Guess. So he's a he's a lawyer and in his you know, he went to law school and it was traumatic because he h I don't know, maybe trench warfare is pretty good law school. He was pretty true too. I can see that maybe he was on his way to a camp for kids about to be molested, and that's a Jesil Nick joke. But anyway, well, anyways,

they didn't. When I first read this story, igo, Well, the story is about evil critics and one guy finally got back at him, and now he's in trouble because they found out he was making it that they he was hiring his assistant or something that to make all these fake tweets to hit back at the critic. But now that I read the story, I think the critic was right. So first I thought he was the fight in

the good fight. If he wants to fight the good fight, go back to the writer's room and say, come up with something besides trench warf because we got called out on it. All right, let's go to break and we come back. Scarlett Johansson and her body are in the news Joe Ascalante

Live from Hollywood. We are back the show business, the business end of it, and let's let's go to the intellectual property portion of the show, where Scarlett Johansson has taken legal action against an AI app that is using her likeness. She is upset because there was a twenty two second ad posted on Twitter by an artificial intelligence imaging company called Lisa AI colon nineties yearbook and Avatar. It's a pretty awkward name, but what happened on the app was that

they were using Obviously they're using her likeness. She's mad and she's very aggressive. Remember she went after did Disney or not Disney HBO for Mourner Brothers for not putting the movies out on their service instead of in the theaters and ignoring the fact that she gets a big bonus if it's in the theater. I thought that was with Disney through Marvel yeah, oh yeah, Disney, I mean, and then that's when and then HBO just try to solve their problem.

They they just put everything on there. They'd had the same problem and other other companies. Yeah, but hers was Yeah, Disney, thank you. So in this ad twenty two seconds, it shows Scarlet Johanson, who we both love. We can agree on that. In there behind the scenes in the Black Widow movie, she's comes up to some people and says, what's up, guys. It's Scarlett and I want you to come with me, before a graphic covers her mouth and the screen transitions into AI generated photos

resemble her. A fake voice imitating Johansson then continues to speak promoting the AI app, and she says it's not limited to avatars only. You can also create images with texts and even your AI videos. I think you shouldn't miss it. Fine print under the ad says images produced by Lisa AI. So it's telling you that the app made these images. They're not real. And then it says in the warning it has nothing to do with this person.

So that's they thought that was like a disclaimer so they could show her and tell you this is what you can do by the way, this is not her. We created this and it has nothing to do with her. Trying to say that she's like not endorsing this project, but they don't really say she's not endorsing this project. They say it has nothing to do with her. You see how they're playing with words and they're trying to say like, well, yeah, we said this. There's no words that they could say

that make this legal. I don't think do you think that's enough of a disclaimer? I mean, what do you think is this a free speech thing? Like, how are you going to tell people that you can make celebrity, you can make celebrities do things if you can't show that they made celebrities do things. Yeah, if I mean, if they're giving a disclaimer that this isn't the real person, I'm guessing that might help a little. But this is like new waters that people are treading legally. I don't know.

Yeah, I mean it might help a little. They get to say, well, hey, what are the damages, because these kind of things are all about damages. How many how much damages did she suffer? Well, she suffered damages because people she's an endorser, She's a paid endorser of products, or she at least has the ability to do that it's a major part of her income or could be, or the fact that she doesn't do that

boosts her box office and her credibility. That translates into money. So you're costing her money either because she now cannot endorse another company like this, or she's saturated in the marketplace. Either way, it's not very hard to tell a court that, like, look, this costs her a lot of money because she's now saturated and people think, well, whoa, WHOA what people

think she's in she's being endorsable. We wrote that she's not endorsed by that, that this has nothing to do with her, and that might go to a jury, like one guy in a jury saying, hey, well, you know what, they wrote this, so don't let's not throw the book at them. So they're kind of managing their risk here by writing these disclaimers, hoping to make a splash, and then they'll just say sorry, just kidding and they'll stop doing it, which they have stopped, and now we're

talking about them. So maybe they got what they wanted. But Scarlett Johanson knows that, so she's not gonna lay down she's going to go after him, and she's gonna get damages, and we'll see what kind of damages she gets. It'll be interesting. Okay. Now, in the celebrities behaving badly genre, nobody behaves more badly than rock star Steven Tyler of the rock band

Aerosmith. I didn't like Aerosmith when I was young because I knew in my heart of hearts that when that guy puts down his microphone he's going to go sexually harassed women and assault them. So you might say I predicted this by my site. I predicted it with a lack of support for Aerosmith. And we can all say Aerosmith's cool now, you know, because we go like, hey, they're really cool. They're part of this you know, eighties

rock thing, and you can go see their concerts and be cool. And their church t shirts are worth a lot of money from the old days, and everybody likes retro stuff. I'm not buying into it. The band was awful then, The band's awful now. To me. This might have been your world, this was not my world. So I'm just not buying into and and and part of it was I didn't like their image. I don't like that guy's image. Now that guy. Have you seen him? I have, yes, that guy, Like, you're a grown man. What

are you wearing on your fingers? Like these rings? You wear, these scarfs, you wear this hair, You're a grown ass man. You get up in the morning and you put these rings on your finger, Like, I'm gonna look great with these things. You haven't wanted to have one of those scarves? You got me? You know me too well, Sam, So you know something made me cringe and I knew it was going on.

And I'll also something I also knew is like one day when the me too movement moves into rock en Roll, it will explode because it's like, you know, it's it's part of the given. These guys, this is what they do and they're not, you know, arguably, they don't have the same education as Harvey Weinstein or less moon Vests or people that have been canceled. They are, you know, just degenerates. That's the image they sell. Look at me, I'm a bad boy. Do you know what a

bad boy is saying? I've seen a few. Yeah, you bad boy does wonderful advantage, takes advantage of young women. It's like number one. That's a number of thing you do do you're a bad you leave your house? Whom I what woman am I going to try to trick into having sex with me? So that's the whole image. And I, you know, I was wondering what would happen when they start getting into this and the there's a lot of band members have been canceled here and there, even the guy

from the band Anti Flag. Anti Flag is a big punk rock band that was, you know, in the scene and playing and very political, hyper political, just we are here to bring down the man, and we are for women's rights and all the disadvantaged. And then some some women start coming out, one after another after another, after another after another saying this singer assaulted me. This was happening. I was giving tours at the Punk Rock Museum, and while I'm giving tours, I'm like, over here is Anti

Flag. I was like, wait, where did it go? And then people are running around the museum tearing down the Anti Flag stuff. This is in Las Vegas. If you haven't been in the museum, it's amazing. But they're tearing down, they're taking the stuff out. When this came out, and these are people that know, you know, people that know, they knew it wasn't just wild accusations, they said, they checked it out.

They go, yeah, this is all true. The band broke up the same day because they knew, and so they just started dismantling this stuff right away. That's in the punk rock world. Punk rock world is not selling bad boy images. That guy was, you know, his politics might have been misguided, but he they were you know, legitimate political campaigns that he was running, and they were and that's how kind of punk rock is. Punk rock is not about this kind of bad boys stuff other than bad

boy to authority. But in the you know, aerosmith world, you know, that's what they're selling. And so final they caught up with Stephen Tyler. You might have remembered a case recently, did you remember this one?

This woman named Miserly was her name? She Missley, Missley. She he came out of the woodwork because Stephen Tyler, when she was sixteen or seventeen persuaded, oh no, yeah, sixteen, persuaded her parents to sign over the guardianship to her to him so he can have sex with her without going to jail and travel across state lines with him without criminal prosecution. Did you hear this story? I remember vaguely of it, but yeah, the details

of it are pretty lurid. Yeah, and then forced her to persuade her to get an abortion. So this is in the monster category. And then for some reason he's not, you know, in jail or fully scorned. And then another lady has come out now with her. She was a model in New York. Her name is Jeane Bellino. This is the news she has come out. Let's say, because we got to go to break okay, so I'll tell you her claims when we come back. Joe Scalantate live

from Hollywood. Joe Joe Escalante Live from Hollywood. We are back the business end of show business. K e IB eleven fifty on your AM dial every Sunday from five to seven pm. Unless we're preempted by a NFL game. Then here's what you do. Go to the podcast. We're going to record a podcast show anyway, and this show will become a podcast later. People always ask me, do you have a podcast? I got I don't have a radio show. Some guy named Sam turns it into a podcast, so

I guess I have a podcast. And sometimes it's just a podcast. But today we're live on the radio for two hours from five to seven. We're talking about Steven Tyler and the latest case against him. This one's not as bad as the other one. This one is a girl that he definitely assaulted. She was seventeen years old and he's gross but he uh, it seems like they didn't have sex, but he, you know, groped her,

grinded her, dry hump whatever, all this kind of stuff. And she then he tried to get her to go up into his hotel room and she finally got away. So her name is Billino. Billino. She's just a one named person in my mind now, Jean Bellino. So Jean Bellino. She alleges in a New York in a New York lawsuits. She actually filed the lawsuit in nineteen seventy five. She's seventeen years old. Steelen Tyler assaulted her. Now Stephen Tyler is still out there going to grammy things, and

I don't know how he's getting away with it. After you convince some family to I'm like, maybe Elvis did the same thing, but Elvis is gone, okay, and he probably thought Elvis did this. Jerry Lee Luis that's what I was thinking. The name Jerry Lee Lewis did this, I'm going to do this, but it's still it's still gross. And I don't know

what's going on with I apologize for this. I don't know what's going on with Miss Lee's claim and where that ended, the one that she that he, you know, persuaded to have the abortion and had the he had the guardianship over her. Well, he filed an anti slap motion against or in May just because yeah, okay, and that's gross. As guardian caretaker said that her claims were that she consented to the sexual relation. That's gross anti

slap. She should file an anti slap against his anti slap. An antislap motion is is what you file if somebody is suing you and you're a tiny party and then a big company is suing you for a free speech issue, like you you want to tell your story, or you have an artistic endeavor and they're coming down on you and there and and you know how some companies will use the courts and say we are so big, don't even try to

fight us because you will go broke. Well, the law has evolved in a way to protect small people to say, Okay, you can tell me that I'm going to go broke, but I'm going to file this anti slap thing against you. And then now you have to prove that what I say is not true, and then if you can't, then you have to pay my legal fees. So, but that's a big guy who is attacking a little guy, and the little guy uses the anti slap motion, so that

it's because it's a bridging their free speech. In this case, Stephen Tyler is suing her for an anti slap. He's just trying to cost her more money, and he's gross. And I don't know why nobody cares. If we had to care about this one, then we would have to care about every band from that era. Guess who cares about every band from that era? Your host, Yeah, I care about all of them. And if you're going to go after these Hollywood people, you got to go after them.

The problem is there's no evidence. There's such bad evidence. This is in nineteen seventy five of this new case, this new case that got filed, it's not very good. Nineteen seventy five, she says she was pushed into a phone booth and groped and dry humped and all that stuff. That's bad, and I feel sorry for it and I believe her, but there's not enough evidence so that it will survive from that long ago, even though she said the other band members were watching. So it's hard to get justice.

You got to get justice right away. And if society won't give you justice right away, but society will give you justice later by changing the laws and saying the statute of limitations is now going to be expanded. That is it's not perfect, you know, because there's a balance that has to be met of justice for the accused and justice for the accuser. And that is not perfect even when you do it right away. But if you do it fifty years later, forty five years later, do you think there's really no

age used? Because of just the fact that it was the era of sex, drugs, and rock and roll, and they went like through a very public like we need to walk away from the industry for a good five to ten years because we are on way too many drugs and drinking too much. They publicly went sober, and for a lot of the stuff that they did throughout the eighties and nineties was with this, with the perception that they were no longer doing any of that debaucherous stuff. Yeah, admirable, you know,

and other people could learn from that. But fast forward, Why why are you further traumatizing this girl even though she's not a girl anymore, she's she's a woman. Why are you further traumatizing her with an anti slat motion. Yeah, no, I agree with you. Now what you're gross?

You're gross. Then you're gross. Now make a settlement with her. And even I go back to my Bill Cosby thing all Bill Cosby, he didn't call me, but he should have, and I would have said, if I was Bill Cosby, I'm gonna take all my money, one hundred percent of my money, and I'm going to give it to these victims, and I'm going to live off social Security. And then it would have been over and no one would be trying to run him down and prosecute him. What

was he hanging on to his money? What's he gonna do with his money in jail when he's disgraced? So if he gave it all away and lived on social Security, you know what would happen? Would he would would social Security be his only income at that point? No, I don't think so he'd work again. Yeah, Yeah, he'd spend the rest of his life working and it would be forgiven and it would be a model to what other people should do. And he didn't do that. And same thing, well,

Harry Weinstein should have done. You just got to give it all away and say, okay, what do you want and give it all the way and then start working. Harvey Weinstein to be working, and they didn't do it. You know, the same disorder that forces you to, you know, take a fifteen year old and shover in a phone booth and or or get a guardianship and force you to have abortion. These are the same disorders that don't or drug people like Bill Cosby, the same disorders that don't allow

you to think clearly and called Joe Sclante for advice. So too bad for these people. But why is Steven Tyler not being vilified? I don't know, but I do believe this case is not very good. There you go, the actor striking Sam. Do you have any more comments on my self righteous holier than now soapbox rants? Not at all. I actually, really

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. That it's imp important to believe the victims on stuff like this, and it is re traumatizing for them to have to have a person like Steven Tyler basically tell them, you know, stop suing me. I'm invalidating all of your experiences and all of your sadness. But it's been fifty years. It's hard to find the evidence to

stick. A lot of the people who are witnesses may no longer be with us, but and having guardianship, the guardian ship saying well, this was when we were doing a lot of drugs and stuff, so please forgive us. We've changed our ways. And where are the parents when the guardianship was happening. Yeah, you know they're they're obviously they're you know, bad parents. Or maybe the kid was such a mess that that was the least worst

option at the time. Maybe she'd be dead, you know, she would have been dead somewhere or killed herself or something, So maybe it was the least worst option. Okay, doesn't sound like great parenting, but we in this case, we don't. It's not even like we don't have evidence. The guy went out and guardianship with her so he can have sex with her and bring her across state lines, so he convinced the parents to do something that society and who knows what he used money, you know, pressure,

whatever. He convinced them to do something that society has decided is disgusting. And he did it anyway, And so there is evidence on this one. Now the other his new case. The lady's saying, ah, he traumatized me in nineteen seventy five. That's just a terrible case. You know, that's a terrible case. I wish her luck and also with him. If he remembers doing this, write her a check. Maybe she's down on her luck and this is her last thing and she'll just go away. Write her

a check. If you did it, If you didn't do it, yeah, it's another thing. But if you're just saying, hey, there's no way, there's no proof, I'm not going to do it, because you might think it invites other people, and then all of a sudden, you got right, one thousand checks a month. That could be a problem. But in the Bill Cosby case, give them all your money and then you'll

work again. But I don't know when he's going to work again. If I see him judging American Idol or the Masked Singer, you know, then you know we've we've we've gone beyond the point of no return with craziness. Okay, let's go to the writer strike. The actors have received the best and most final offer of the studios can produce, and that's what they're mulling

over right now. We'll see what happens. I mean, my dear Tuesday, you could hear something changing Joe Ascalante live from Hollywood, leaving you with just a taste of greatest song ever written. But there's always more.

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