Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank, across the street from a Wiener Snitzel that serves beer. This is two hours of the business end of show business right here on k e IB eleven fifty on your AM dial. Sam joins me here live from Burbank on a pretty nice Sunday evening, the seventeenth of December. Sam, how's the things working? Did I did all that work? Things worked? Yes? Okay, we seem to be on the air. We seem to be floating. This is good, okay, good.
Well, we have a special guest today. We're going to be joined at some point by mister Broadway Pants. Sometimes some people know me as mister Hollywood Pants, but they don't know is my nephew is mister Badway Pants. And he's got a he's got a theater report for us, So you're gonna hear all about what is happening, what is hot in live theater. And he's straight from Broadway, just got off the plane, and he's gonna tell us what's going on there and how it might affect you, the Los Angeles
person that might want to see some shows. Okay, let's get right into the intellectual property issue going on right now. Sam, this is a this is a joggernaut. I don't know if you know this, but January first is the day that has long been feared, the day that Mickey Mouse goes into public domain. This is no joke. Can you hear the evil in my laugh? Do you know how many Mickey Mouse and like all of these different Disney character themed idea that I want to roll with now that they're now
in the public domain. You're an evil person. I don't consider you an American. I just don't. I am just anti American. I am going to have some fun with Mickey. Okay, well, there's some restrictions, Okay, okay, please tell me. I'd like to know what my legal boundaries here are. Basically, the rat faced Mickey from Steamboat Willie. You can play around with that, okay. Cool. You could probably show Steamboat Willie in your anti American club that you belong to. I guess maybe you
could. You could show you could charge money to come in and watch it. You could do you can manipulate it. Things like that. You just can't take like newer Mickey, Like don't try to take new Mickey. Don't try to you can't they still own that. They only lost they're only losing control over Steamboat Willie Mickey. Okay, So the old stuff basically at what year prior, like at what's the cutoff of between old Mickey and new Mickey? Well, right now, just try to be safe and use Steamboat Willie
Mickey. Okay, that was released in nineteen twenty eight. It's got ninety five years. This is the ninety fifth year and it only has ninety five years because it used to have seventy five year years. But they extended it in nineteen ninety eight, I think two twenty years more because they were in a panic and now they're ready, you know, they're kind of ready.
All right. This is it's very rare for an image to go this long and still be recognizable and be valuable because when you look at the stuff the other stuff that goes into the public domain, and every year stuff's going into the public domain. But some of it is like who cares? What have we got? Like like a animal farm? People care about that. But you know, there's there's this there's a lot of stuff that just goes just
goes in. And at one point, maybe in nineteen fifties, it was very valuable stuff, and then after a while it just fades and then it who cares? You know, Like, but people get alarmed when they hear about like Sherlock Holmes going into the public domain. Now, not all Sherlock Holmes is in the public domain, but some of it is. And then there's we Need the Pooh last year we all know went into the public domain and the result was a horror film on the Variety Magazine's Worst Films of twenty
twenty three. And now I assume they'll be a you could be you know, Steamboat Willie, slasher film, you can do that, Steamboat Willie and Train of Death. Is that what you're going with? I guess a train. Yeah, he's on a train. Yeah. Why isn't it a steamboat? Oh that's true. Steamboat of Death. Steamboat of Death, that's what everyone's afraid of. Yeah, it looked like a train conductor in it, though I did that was the thing. I think it was the outfit that he had on. But yeah, no, it was. It was a
steamboat Willy. Obviously, you know, there was some song called Steamboat Bill that that was based on that was a hit, and that went into the public domain too. And all hell broke loose when that went into Maybe I should make one about both of them fighting each other, Steamboat Bill and steamboat Willie. Yeah, who's Steamboat Bill? I have no idea. Okay,
why don't you just follow me? Follow along with me today? And like Virginia Wolf's novel Orlando went into the public domain last year, Virtual Brecks musical play the Three Penny Opera. Have you heard of that, mister Broadway pants. I can't say I've seen that one. I like how his voice sounds like he's in another punishment chamber of some kind. Don't fix that? Uh
yeah, Virginia Wolf's Orlando. Who came Charlie Chaplin's Circus? I heard the Circus Circus Hotel went into the public domain just because of the fifth in the hallways. The government is no longer willing to protect it. I say that because I was at the Circus Circus Hotel, not last night, but the night before. Because that's one of the best steakhouses in all of Las Vegas, is inside the Circus Circus. Really, it's called the Steakhouse. I
don't think there's a better one. Many people would say the Golden Steer is the best steakhouse. And yes, the rat Pack used to hang out there, but I think you can make an argument that the steakhouse in the Circus Circus is better than that, and it's more exciting to It's like going into a bad neighborhood and then there's like a like a speakeasy type. Yeah, it's like somewhere in between, like the two ninety nine buffet, and like the restaurants, it will kill you. Yeah, seriously, Yeah, don't
patron hontail. Whatever you do, don't eat the shrimp cocktail. It's made of it's made of overgrown sea monkeys. Stay away from it. And the people in the Circus Circus, it looks like everybody's looking like it looks like everybody in there is looking for social services of some kind and and they just happen to be in a in a casino and then you turn the corner and
bam, the steakhouse. Uh. So I recommend these steakhouse. And the reason why it's still there and still good is because no, there's no uh celebrity chef that's like got their eye on that facility, that building. Yeah, oh you know what I would do if I was in this hotel. I would, I would take out this stale musty uh thing from yesteryear, and I would I would put a hot, new fusion restaurant. No one's
doing that. Nobody wants to be there, so they're stuck there. The management is stuck with them, and they can't get a more, a newer, more prestigious client, so they just keep going and it is excellent. So then after that we went to to the to the Win Hotel to see Steve Martin and Martin Short. Oh nice. And if you look at my Instagram or my Facebook page, you will notice that I was hauled up on stage as the honorary three Amigo and they did a routine and they, you
know, they teach us the three guys. Yeah, I'm one of them. And then and they teach us the three Amigo dance. You were the Chevy Chase probably, and then it was like a dream come true. That that is actually a I would qualify that as being a dream come true. That is absolutely true. That's amazing getting up on stage with Steve Martin, Martin Short and being one of the three Amigos. Yeah, yeah, that counts. And it was the keyboard player, mister Jeff Babco came up the
aisle and he was looking for volunteers. And then my wife was taking my arm and just failing it. It almost broke it. And then and then I got up on stage and did the thing. And then afterwards I'm leaving, and then Jeff Babco, the keyboard player who plays along with them during their show, comes up to me. He goes, I'm friends with Josh
Freeze. I love the Vandals. Nice because when I got up there, people started yelling the Vandals, you know, and I'm not used to that in a like a mainstream show, celebrity, high level, mainstream thing. And I'm like, they start yelling the Vandals, and I go, okay's Vandals. Fans in the audience very weird. And then I'm wearing a tie, you know, in a jacket. I don't look like a punk rock musician. Then Steve Martin asked me what I do for a living. I
didn't know what to say. I was like, well, I'm a TV producer, I'm the manager of Sublime. I play bass in the Vandals. But they're yelling Vandals. I go, I'm I guess I'm the guy in the Vandals. You know, they caught me here and then he goes So you play bass anyway, Just talking to Steve Martin, even for a minute, is it is pretty amazing. But we're going to take a break now
and we come. I'm going to tell you the first time I was a part of Steve Martin's act in nineteen seventy five, did you put the arrow through his head? But it was it was during that era. Joe Scalante continues after the traffic Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood, you mean Burbank two hours of the business end of show business every Sunday here and kaeib when we were talking, I teased this, this amazing story about well last night
I'm on stage with Steve Martin and Martin short just randomly. You got to see that show. I don't even if they're doing it anymore. These were two postponed shows, okay from the COVID because someone didn't follow my advice and not get tested for COVID. And if you do get tested, don't tell anyone. I'm not a doctor licensed to practice in California, but in Guatemala. However, what my word is gospel anyway, So someone, so now he had to do it in December fifteen. But it worked out good for
me because I won the lottery and got to be the honorary amigo. How cool is I would have loved to have gone at least watched that, just so I'd be like, I know him. A lot of people were doing that just to be up on stage with those two legends. That's outstanding. They really. When I thought about it later, I go, wow, they really bestow a gift on three people every night to that like that's once in a lifetime. But for me, it was twice in a lifetime because
in nineteen seventy five, I was a huge Steve Martin fan. I'm twelve years old and watching Johnny Carson every night. My mom like doesn't know what to do with me. Other parents have problems with their kids or drugs or gender, just phouria or whatever these people have these days. My parents had the problem with this kid wants to stay up and watch Johnny Carson, and he begs and he negotiates, and he said, just let me watch the
monologue and then you know, stretch it into the first guest. Anyway, whenever Steve Martin was on I was just out of my skull with excitement. And then I convinced my brother to take me to see him when he was playing at the Golden Bear, which is just like, you know, five or ten miles down pH an old nightclub in Hollywood. I'm in Huntington Beach. Then we watch him and he's so funny, you can't you can't even
take it, such such an advanced style of humor. If you could read his biography autobiography he wrote, he's like a philosophy major of some kind and he was infusing that into his comedy and it was different than anybody would come before him, and me, being the intellectual twelve year old, you know, really appreciated that. So it's so hilarious. Then at the end, they say you can stay and watch the second show, so we stayed and
we went moved down to the front. So now we're in the front tables, it's like tables in the States. I'm just now I'm in his face.
After the second show, he's doing his happy dance and he's and he's just reveling, and everybody's you know, because he killed it with some closing joke and routine or something, and everyone going nuts, and then he's dancing around, saying good bye, good bye, bay bye, starts climbing the staircase that goes up to the backstage in that in that club, and he's doing these dances, you know, like snoopy dancing, and then all of a sudden he sees me and he locks eyes on me, and he goes,
wait a second, wait a second, wait, stop stop stop, are you Joe Escalante? No, He says, what the heck, and he walks back down the steps and he comes up to me and goes, how old are you? And I go, I'm twelve, twelve years old. There's been a twelve year old here the whole time. Oh my lord, I had no idea. Okay, I got a joke for you twelve year olds. Twelve years man. Yeah, all right, there's these two lesbians and into a bar, right nineteen seventy five. Oh that's outstanding.
Yeah. So that was it. And then he went crazy and even more uproar, and then he goes on and then I tell that story every day of my life, and tell today, and I'll continue telling it. So it turns out as I'm walking off the stage, the keyboard players say Hey, I'm Jeff. I know Joss Freese, the drummer of your band Love the Vandals. And then so I sent him an email afterwards it and then
I told him that story. And my dream, my real dream in life, is for Steve Martin to hear that story that that young boy that was you and grew up to have one of the lowest rated radio shows in the entire history of the medium, and you know, all because of him. Yeah, and no offense in Martin short. I'm a huge I could tell them Martin short stories of how much I worshiped SETV. That's for another day. But ayway, that was my Las Vegas trip. I encourage Las Vegas,
like, you know, five hours away. It's kind of like as La gets to be five hours away from Orange County with the traffic. Yeah, sometimes it's just easier to go to Las Vegas to see something that's no joke. That's no joke. Okay, let's get to the movies. You saw a movie this week, didn't you. I saw it Godzilla. That's a movie, al right. That was a great movie they had. It was a terrifying Godzilla first off, and second that actors were actually good.
The actual human actors. They paid attention to how they were acting. It was like because it was in Japanese. Yeah, and you didn't have to worry about dubbing. It was just like seeing a you know, a Kirosawa film or Uzu film in on the Criterion channel or something. It was just a serious you could take it more seriously. Yeah, it was really good. I really enjoyed it, and I'm definitely gonna go see it again whenever I have the chance. I was very pleased with this one. Yeah,
I'm going with you on a hundred percent. Mister Broadway Pants is coming up in the next segment. But mister Bridy Pants, did you see Godzilla? No, No, I've missed that. I missed that one. What's wrong with his microphone is that? How it has to be sound like? Why does he sound like that? Because he's from Broadway? Could be not sure. I could turn him up a little bit. Maybe that helps. I don't know. Okay, I personally like that trapped in a dungeon sound Okay?
All right, let's go through the We only have a couple of minutes, but we're gonna start going through the top ten of the box office this week. I'll just rattle it off, and then we'll take a break and we'll talk about what a little bit more of the movies that we saw, and then we're gonna get into the Broadway portion of our show. I like
how you saying that last part. I have to number one, number one movie in the country, Wonka, number two, Hunger Games, number three, Bad the Boy and the Heron which is a studio, the best one, the last one, Godzilla minus one, Number four, Trolls Band Together, number five, number six, Wish, number seven, Christmas with the Chosen does Christian film? The usually do well? Napoleon is he Heathen film? It's doing pretty good too. Actually, Renaissance, a film by Beyonce,
must viewing for anybody that works on this show. And number ten Poor Things from search Light Films. When we come back, we will discuss the the movie that I saw, and then we'll get into a little more Broadway with mister Broadway pants. And this is the part of the show where usually you play some music. Then I just wry know, I have to wait about five seconds, give me a moment a second. Four and three and two and one Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood back after this Joe Escalante Live from
Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank. Uh, two hours of the Business, End of show Business, every Sunday here on KiB eleven fifty on your AM dial. The movie list. We just went over the weekend box office. The Wonka is the winner, demolishing everybody. It's not even a second place, really, thirty nine million dollars and the second place was The Hunger Games, directed by the Great Francis Lewis, only had five zero point
eight million, so thirty nine million. Everybody was seeing Wonka and I wanted to see Well, I wanted to see Wonka, so I went to see Wonka, and there was another movie with I can't find it out it didn't do Oh, Eileen was Eileen? I wanted to disease but I ended up not seeing it. And then so Wonka. What did you think of it? Joe? Oh, thanks for asking. Uh, let me ask around the panel here, Sam, Yes, did I give a thumbs up or a thumbs down to the new version of Wanka? I think you gave it
a thumbs up. I'm gonna go with thumbs up. Mister Broadway Pants. Do you think I gave it a thumbs up or a thumbs down. I'm thinking of thumbs down right, because he knows how it feels about all the musicals, mister Broadway pants. It never stops going to well, let me tell you, let me surprise one of you. I thought the Wonka Movie was a beautiful film, and it just doesn't care that there were two Wonka movies already. It's you know, one of those walk of films is really
stupid. One of them is perhaps the greatest family film ever made. And then this one's a musical. Man, there's a lot of room for cringey disasters here. But the songs were fantastic. They were just like, just very fitting for a prequel to the Gene Wilder musical. Let's take the musical that the other one is a Johnny Depp. Let's put that one away, the Johnny Depp Wonka one. Let's put that one to the side. Let's bury it too much style, not enough substance. And that's from a guy
who has never seen it. Okay, it was the c g I Opa Lumpas for me, I just couldn't. Yeah, I just didn't. I don't anyway. I looked at it and I'm just like, does that really needed to happen? And then then after he ruined Dumbo, I was like, well, if he can't even do Dumbo, right, how is he gonna do Willie Wonka? So I was never looked back and then I then then this one came. I. Oh, you know Timothy chacoal Lot or Chala may or whatever his name is. He, uh, he's good enough.
Timothy sports Shelley. Yeah, that's a good one. Timothy sports Shelley. Let's just go with that. So Timothy sports Shelley. He you know, I like him in some things I could care less than others. Is something wrong with him? He's a flavor of the month. My wife is all into it, you know I would, so I'm willing to give him a shot. And I watched it and loved it. Everyone in this involved in this movie should be very proud, except for Hugh Grant, who was
He was great in the film, but he couldn't just leave it. He was actually in the film. Okay, I thought you're just throwing him in there. I mean, he was great in the film, but then he you know, he he just squirted his own stinky chocolate all over the film before it was even released, complaining about being an oopa loopa and all the CGI stuff and how they made and he thought they made him look stupid.
Shame on him. The headline from this the release of this film should have been convicted John spoils otherwise successful launch of assumed to be classic film, because I just thought, since he's complaining about this great movie and he's lucky to be in it, I'd bring up his shadowy past. Let's go around the panel here. Do you remember his shadowy past? Grant? Yes, I do, do you It wasn't so shadowy, do you. Yeah, we can get to that. It wasn't really you know, but it was.
I mean, it was out in the open, mister Broadway pants. Did you do you know about Hugh Grant? Since I have heard a few stories, yes, about his engagement with some women. Yeah, a woman named Divine Brown. He engaged in public sex with a prostitute. And you know, he had to pay a thousand dollars fine and he had to go on an AIDS education program, which I think is an insult to assume that that Divine Brown had AIDS or her co workers. Yeah, a little bit of
horror shaming. I don't know, did I just horses shame by saying that, by coining the phrase horse shaming? No, no, not okay, so uh and then she had to go to jail for like eighteen months, you know, and she was she was she wasn't bad looking, and she she you know, things didn't turn out so great for her, but they weren't going to turn out probably that great anyway, if that's how she ended
up. And then ah, anyway, anyway. The only reason I'm bringing it up because I'm just mad he had a tantrum about his being a part of this this cool movie. It's a cool movie. Songs are good.
It's it's kind of like a Wes Anderson meets Harry Potter meets the original Willie Wank in the Chocolate Factory film, and it's you know, like you don't necessarily think of Gene Wilder as a you know, like a musical a lead man in a musical, but he pulled it off in that movie and it defined him and Timothy challummey as soon as he started singing, You're like, you know, it's very reminiscent of Gene Wilder because it's not you know, like it's not like perfect, like, oh, I became I started as
a singer and I won American Idol and now I'm an actor. So he's an actor. You can sing. It's charming, he fits the part. Some people say he was miscast, but those are people that just don't like it anyway. Some people are bitter. I could have been bitter about this. Willie Wanka is a sacred film to me. But I would see this again and again. Is it really fun? And the cast Mark Lucas from the Great British actor that was in Great Britain, Little Britain, he was
in it. And Olivia Coleman. I don't know if you if you familiar with her oscars studied career and and Hugh Grant and everybody was good. Anyway. I can recommend Wanka and you can recommend, and we can both recommend minus one. And I honestly want to see more films with Timothy sports Chalet and I would love to see him work alongside Ham and Cheese bandersnatch. Ham and Cheese bandersnatch. Oh is that Benedict cumber Patch. That's what I said,
because because it sounded like you said, Ham and Cheese bandersnatch. Same thing. Okay, all right, well we don't have a lot of time. We only have one minute left for mister Broadway pants, mister Robbie pants. Did you go see some plays? I did. I saw some plays. I saw some musicals out in New York City, and I had a wonderful time doing it. All right, Well, thank you for stopping by, and the Jenny out front will validate, yes' validate your partnerfect. Thank
you so much, and we'll have you back again. Great. I'll have a lot more to report next time. Okay, good, okay, let's take a break. We'll check the traffic. And Joe Scalante live from Hollywood, coming at you, all right, Joe Scalante live from Hollywood's by Hollywood. You need burd Bank And uh, of course Ponio, the the Great Fishy in the Sea from the Ghibli Studio. Uh. The hair On the Boy and the hair On is out in theaters right now, the last Studio
Ghibli movie. I guess we're ever going to see. It's like Tarantino, you know, shop after ten or something. I don't know how many do they did? That's it's it feels bittersweet, it does. This one has Florence pew in it. Oh cool, And I know how big of a fan of Florence Pew you are. I'm the pewiest they caused the Pewbies. They call you the pubes. Well you would go there, but no, run a tight ship here, Okay, Studio Ghibli, So I haven't seen that one. I'll probably see it this week. No, let's go back
to the movies for a second. So we were talking about Wonka and Wanka is a musical we've brought in. Mister Broadway pants. We pulled them back. We didn't kick him out, mister Broadway Pants. How are you? I'm good, Joe, thank you, thank you for having me here. He sounds like Enoch from the Land of the Lost, like the high level slee stack. Is that what kind of a station we got? Now?
Yes, yes, okay, this is the Land of the Lost. Evidently we were just talking over the break that I'm Everybody's Christmas party is KLA C KF I where's the KiB Christmas Party? And since I'm the only live uh, you're very lucky. You're driving around und and you're here, You're hearing the only live radio personality in this station. And I don't have a Christmas party. I don't know, so Sam, I think you should this. Here's the Christmas party. I'm telling you. We are festive right now.
Sure, but there should be some We're gonna do some live events. I've got a ham cooking in the back. This is perfect. Yeah, I'm not as music by it. I need I need a party, But I brought a ham. Where's my where's all my radio listeners that you know that are going to punish me at a party? Like? I really like? If I had a party, i'd go to it. I probably hate every second of it. But since I don't have one, I'm upset about it.
Okay, let's go with mister Broadway pants. You you really did go to New York for ten days to to do an in depth Broadway musical and other kinds of plays search for us? What? What did you find? What are the highlights the low lights? What's coming to Los Angeles? Yeah? Yeah, so I was there for ten nights. I saw all the
shows that are brand new on Broadway. The biggest ticket item that I would say I saw was Merrily We Roll Along the revival of Stephen Sondheim's musical That Sounds legit because some of the ones you talk about sound like the worst evening one could spend sitting in a chair. What's this Merrily We Roll Along about? So it stars Daniel Radcliffe, Lindsay Mendez and Jonathan Groth. Are you talking about Harry Potter? That's the one and the same. Yeah, weird
out the naked or he was naked on Broadway originally? Yes, Angels in America, right, Angels in America? Okay, So Merrily We Roll Along. It's a like a nineteen thirties show tune filled extravaganza. Definitely not. No, it takes place and what was present day when it originally aired on Broadway in early nineteen eighties, and it goes back in time to see how they originated their relationship with those three characters. So it starts present day and
then you see how it happens and it's great and something. Groth has a great performance. I was actually sitting in the front row and I could just have him spitting really in my old fashioned cocktail drink. So yeah, that was a really nice That's good because there's so much bourbon in an old fashioned Yeah, it's good. It's gonna kill it. It doesn't matter. That's what Steve Martin said the other night. Laughter is the is the best way
to spread COVID and AIDS and stuff like that. Not aids. He didn't say that. He said he grants it. Always wear a condom while laughing. Folks, Yeah, maybe, okay, So Merrily We Roll Along? Okay, so that's that's a big deal. Good for you. How much is a ticket like that cost? So that one is the highest cost of all the shows, it'll run you about two to three hundred dollars. They just extended it through July, so there are some lower priced tickets available.
Plus there's a rush and a lottery, as there are for many shushes, like when the student's going and they get it's when Getty Lee comes out and okay, yeah that's cool. Hey, look I do all the comedy on the show. All right, excuse me, I'm sorry. What about when would like a place like that? Like how does this work? Like Merrily We Roll Along? It's like a big on Broadway. When can someone in
Los Angeles see it at one of these theaters in Hollywood or wherever? So, yeah, it usually takes about one to two years, depending on how it does on Broadway, or if it's a limited run. So this one is actually a limited run, but they could always, you know, change it and decide that they want to take it on tour as they did are doing with Parade Parade, And is Parade new or is that one of these
old Parade was a revival. It originally came out about twenty years ago and it came back this year with Ben Platt as the lead of Dear Evan Hanson, Fame of What Fame Dear Evan Hanson, the twenty seventeen Tony winner for Best Musical. He's the kid Hansen all grown up, cut the hair and everything. Yeah, all right, if you say so, parade? And then what else you got? And what else did you see? That was the cut your eye? What was you? What is the sleeper hit that
you saw? I would say that that was Buenavista's Social Club. Oh that's a good one, now you speaking my land Atlantic Stage or at yeah, Atlantic Theater, the Atlantic Theater. Yeah, it was off Broadway and is a story about the making of the record in nineteen ninety six and their backstory in nineteen fifty six when Fidel Castro was coming into power and so It tells that story that reminds me of the Musical that Didn't go, which was the
making of the Vandal's Piece through Vandalism EP, when Ronald Reagan was coming into power. That would have been a heck of a musical. It didn't make it. That's a shame. It was less popular than that than Springtime for Hitler. Well, you know, Merrily We Roll Along was initially a flop, and now it's thriving on Broadway, so it could be your time. They can revive flops. Yeah, well, I mean it's a Stephen Sondheim, so it has that name attached to it, a provenance we know.
Is Stephen Sondheim still alive? No, unfortunately, he passed away two years ago. He's very much alive on Broadway and in the theater. He's got Sweeney Todd. He's got Sweeney Todd going. The movie Here we Are is playing at the Shed, and that is off Broadway, and a company ran on Broadway two years ago and now it's on a national tour. You're mister off Broadway as mister off Broadway pants. Yeah. Well, see the thing is that I had seen all the shows on Broadway that I had to dive
deeper to find the things that are coming to Broadway. It's like the minor leagues of theater. And we're paying for all of this. Not a dime he's doing. He's digging into his own pocket for the Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. It's on. You know, IOU's okay when when you come back, we're going to talk more about what happened in Broadway and when he got
pushed onto the subway tracks and jumped right back off. Right here on Joe A. Scalante Live from Hollywood, and he's going to tell you how you can see some of these some what are the best plays and musicals to see in Southern California. Joe Scalante Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you mean Burbank, across the street from a Wiener Snitzel that serves beer. And this is two hours of the business, end of show business. This is our
number two tonight. Sometimes we don't make it this far, but here we are. It is live December seventeenth. It is six oh six in the city, joined here by Sam the Engineer of the Stars, and mister Broadway Pants, the live theater expert that we send all over the country to at the updates on the live theater world. Because I'm mister movie I'm taking a photo right now. Yeah, that's me on the mic. And then uh, people coming in all the time taking photos. I mean, I get
used to it. Anyways, you get the paparazzi chasing you, it happens. Oh never. Actually, I think I'm you know, I'm happy with the level of fame. I have a radio host, you know, no problems. Every once in a while someone goes, hey, I like the vandals, or I like your radio show. I like your shoes. I like your shoes. I like you, I like your shoes. As code in the backstage for my band and I go to the manager, hey don't you have shoes like that? And that's his cue when I walk away to
get that person out of the dressing room. But it doesn't have to be me. It's not like, hey, manager, can you kick this guy out? He's a punisher. No, you go coat. You always have to have coats show business. Okay, mister broadway pants. What if I wanted to thanks for your report on New York. We might get back into some of your New York stuff. What if I wanted to see some theater
in Los Angeles? What would I do? Where would I go? Well, it is Christmas time, so there are a few different Christmas shows that are playing in the upcoming weeks. One would be How the Grinch Stool Christmas Musical. That's a musical, it is, They got songs and everything. It's at the Segerstrom Center and Coast to Mesa. That's a very nice theater, it is. It's wonderful. And then we also have a Christmas story that's playing at the almonds En. Well that's for hipsters only, though,
isn't it hipster's only for the most part. Yeah, you got to you gotta have the glasses, you gotta be really cool. Peter Billingsley in it. Greig at Unfortunately I don't think they were cast in this production, but he could be in the audience. Okay, never know. It's basically the same story. It is the same story. I haven't seen it. I'm gonna see it Tuesday. Oh on Tuesday. See he doesn't mess around. Wow, Okay, where's it at at the Oh? Yeah, the Omnis
that's a nice place too. It's no, it's no secret stroom, but you know it's it's it's one of my favorite theaters. Yeah, it's a great, great venue. And is it better than Dorothy Chandler or is that more for like opera? You know, I haven't even been to the Dorothy Chandler. I'm not cool enough. They don't let me in there. They let me in and they don't have a metal detector and that's the way I like it. They do have one at the Seagrums. I don't like it
goes. I got metal on me most of the time. Okay, it's a nuisance, Yeah it is. Okay. So what if you wanted to see, like what's like coming up with the Pantages, these like big productions that they have there. That's where people Is that the premiere Uh yeah, I mean Hollywood Pantages. That's where all the big Broadway shows come as their first stop on national tour. So the Pantagious season is actually starting up very soon and Jay is the first in its lineup that's a Michael Jackson musical.
So he's been rehabilitated to the point where he can have his own music musical and and people will take their families to this. This is correct, yes, but it focuses more on pre nineteen ninety five. So it's him go about to go on his Big World tour. It's framed as the MTV interview that he did, and then it goes back in time to his youth and how he grew as an entertainer. That's interesting. Do you know, guys know so many Michael Jackson jokes. I don't think. I don't think I'll
tell them because that's a new Joe. I don't tell Michael Jackson, Joeason. It's very very grown up, mature of you. Yeah, okay, so there's a Michael Jackson plague, MJ. So that's the hot ticket for it now. So that was already on New York. Yes, that was in New York, assasce do well. It did great. It's actually still playing in New York on Broadway. Actually, it's funny that when I did see it on Broadway, Madonna was sitting three rows in front of me.
That can happen, huh in New York because they can't go have their own private thing, so Madonna's gonna have to sit in with the pubble. She's in the house seats. Hmmm. That's kind of fun, very cool how she looked you know she looked Okay, I'll say I got a close up view of her hands that weren't you know, Oh the hands you give it to, hands, give it away again. Yeah, she just walked right by me down the aisle and tons of rings and jewelry and things. That's
kind of exciting. That's a very exciting, uh Broadway experience. You never know who you're going to see when you go to his show in New York. Who else did you see? Any other exciting people? I saw Lindsay Lohan. That's really good. That's a good one. That's a good one. Michael Jackson can have a musical. I think Lindsay Lohan can have a musical. The most recent one I saw was Zoe Chow. I saw her in the play called Appropriate. She was sitting two rows in front of me.
She's in Party Down and the After Party to two good comedies on streaming sites. According to you, who did I see? I saw? What is the woman with the curly hair that was married to the guy and the top gun who's married to the guy in Topcunt Katie Holmes, the curly hair Nicole Nicole kidd O, that one from AMC Fame, Yes, yeah, the AMC. Well, I don't go to the MC, so you have to watch that. Does everybody cheer whenever that happens at the theater you go
to? There isn't much cheering now. I think it's just more every single time. I just went to see Godzilla and that there with Nicole Kidman shows up and everybody starts cheering Nicole Kidman as soon as it's like the movie The Room at this point, Oh dude, don't get don't even get me started on the Room. I've got pictures with me and Tommy Wisso and everything like that. You do now, yeah, it's like the Room. It comes
up, they laugh at they're laughing at her. I think kind of they, you know, because it's it's well, they told the joke on the Oscars. That was it was remember that jokes in the Oscars. Remember it feels better in a place like this. They have that a line from the Room, but no, it's a line from the from the They have AMC backpacks that has the speech, the all text of what she says, all text. Yeah you can okay, Yeah, they're leaning into it. Yeah,
I like that. They don't have anything that good at the cinemak where I go. But the they cinema has they don't have that. They don't have a Nicole, they have a they don't have. I mean, I'm kind of jealous. You have a Nicole Kidman. What time was I was in New York and I saw Nicole Kidman at lunch, sitting next to me at the in Italy. You go to Italy, I've been there a few times. Yeah, probably with my wife, No, but she did recommend it. Yeah, I was in Italy, Nicole Kidman's sitting at the table
next to us. And then later I went to see Cabaret with Ali coming. Yeah, and the women forgot her name. Uh, the one that you know that it was famous for doing it and know that one that was a long time ago. And Nicole kid Move was in the theater with us. So lunch and at the theater. So yeah, you feature you go to these things you're gonna. If you're gonna, you can see some celebrities,
which is kind of fun. Okay, any other any other Broadway things that we've forgotten before we take our break and some people are like, oh my gosh, I don't have a traffic app and I need to hear the traffic from iHeartMedia, So they're really waiting for me to get to get into this traffic. But before that, what do you got? I would say, if you're looking for a comedy on Broadway, spam a Lot is a very fun time. It's Monty Python. You're speaking the language of Sam and
Joe here, right. Oh yeah, spam a Lot. So that's good. That lives up to the the to the the standards of Monty Python humor. Yes, yes it does. It's very funny. What's the plot of spam Alot? That's the Knights on the quest to seek the Holy Grail. It's and they got the coconuts and everything, the coconuts to make the noise. Right, that's got to be fun. Do you think that will come to Los Angeles or better yet, do you think that will come to Seal
Beach? Yeah, it'll It'll come to Main Street in twenty maybe the new Bay Theater. Yeah, the Bay Theater just live action, love it. I mean you could put live theater in the Bay Theater. Right, Why don't you be become a promoter? There you go, Now, she takes some money off this mister promoter pants, this hobby of you of yours? Yeah, mister promoter pants. Okay, what about the Fat Mike musical? I let you hear some of those. That's the no effects singer songwriter wrote
a musical and it's really good. I would love to see it or hear some more music send it my way. But you saw it. It was I mean you listened to I listened to. Yeah, you played me a song. Yeah, it's good stuff. It's better than Rent. Oh, I wouldn't say that. I'm a bit worse than Larson fan. So if Jonathan Larson had anything to do with the play Rent, shame on him. He is the only one to deal with the musical event. Isn't like a documentary about his uh tic tick boom, Yeah, tick tick boom. Don't
get me started on tick tick boom fantastic. That's a pick tick tick disaster. Like, the only thing worse than than the musical Rent is is going through the pain of watching this guy uh you know, concoct it or whatever.
The songs are so uh substandard, they're They're just like the songs that like your your nine year old wrote uh in a for an English class project, and somehow he flubbed his way all the way to Broadway and then and which is a shame, and it's an insult to like Soundheimen and and uh and uh, who's that guy? Uh that wrote Jesus Christ Superstar Harriet Beecher Stowe, Jonathan Lord Taylor. What's his name? You you were referring to
the fan of the opera creator. Yeah, Andrew Lloyd Webber. Andrew Lloyd Webber. I thought it was somebody with three names, that that guy's good, that guy writes good songs. Maybe you saw Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor dream Coat and yes, and it was many different colors that that is those are good songs. Rent, Really, I mean, I'm watched I didn't. I never went to see it. Someone threw a cassette and our tour
bus once and we just started listening to it. And after like three songs, I was about to just like take one of the drumsticks from our drummer and just shove it into my brain and take a chance on you know what's on the other side. It was that painful. But you like it? I guess, Uh what do you like it? Why do you like it? Just give me one sentence? I think the music is really and I've just found myself drawn to enjoying it. I'm happy for you. Yeah,
I'm concerned for you, but I'm happy for you. But it doesn't it doesn't. It doesn't compare with Andrew Lloyd Webber. It doesn't have the depth. It's it's more kind of like poppy, cheesy, just fun. It's like, I wrote this song in fifteen minutes, but it's also about AIDS, so it's fun with the well aid It's gonna be fun. So I hear yeah, starts out great, let's go to break all right, this
is you're listening to a show. I'm not even saying my name after that because it's better not to say your name because then people have to look up who is the guy that said does horrible things? So this is a Phil Henry show on k E. I b AM eleven fifty Joe Scolante live from Hollywood, if by Hollywood you mean Bourbhand. We are here with mister Broadway Pants talking Broadway and other things, and Sam the engineer running the spaceship Mister
Broadway Pants. I hope you'll indulge me while I get back to the regular topics that we talk about here on the Live from Hollywood program. Okay, and since you're I ride home, I'm very happy that you have agreed to that. Sam Terrence Howard, what do you think of him? Empire star?
He's talents a actor. He had a lot of hype coming out real fast and real you know, hard and fast early in his career, and then it kind of faded and then he got on He was like on like one of those C s I type shows for a while, and then but then he got on Empire and then Empire Empire shot straight up and then it kind of fizzled. But he's now suing. This is a very interesting legal
case. He is suing his agency, c AA, the ones that made the deal, because there were some profits the the the show did well for a while, so he's arguing that he should have got profits and he was cheated out of these profits because CIA would have got him a sweet ass deal if not for the fact that he was black. So this is a show with an all black cast, and because he's black, he did not get a good deal. Is there like some minor character that got all the profits?
And do we call that a sad sweet ass deal? It was a sad ass deal is what he got. He's suing because he got a sad ass deal or a spicy deal. What's the opposite of sweet sour? He got a sour deal. Yeah, he got a soury deal. Wasn't a savory He's very salty. So I mean it's interesting because he's not with CIA anymore. And the show, like I said, it got very high ratings, is up to like maybe thirteen million people or more, and then it
then towards the end it went back down to like three million people. So it did have a period where it was doing very well, but then it wasn't doing well and then and then it had the Jesse Smollett situation where the
guy pretended that he was a victim of racism. A lot of racism involved in this show, and so he's saying it was racism to not give him the sweet ass deal that would have given him a bigger paycheck because he would have these profits that he'd be swimming in right now, Sam, what do you think this should this should we should actors be suing their old agencies for not getting them the best deal that they could have got them in hindsight? Does that sound like a world you want to live in. Sure, he's
you know, he never plays along. Well, let me tell you, since i'm the lawyer here to in the Hollywood and mister Hollywood pants, that's not a world you want to live in. So if you're an actor and you get an agent, and the agent now has to worry about you suing them if you don't, I mean, the pressures on anyway you get. If you don't get a good deal, they're going to get rid of you, and now they're going to sue you later and then they're going to call
you a racist. So his agents are now like if you talk to his agents now, they're like, what are you doing? Well, you know, I'm being sued for being a racist because Terrence Howard. Well you know it was my client and I got him a job on Empire. But because he says because he was black, I didn't get him the good, the good stuff, that's too bad. I didn't know you're a racist. But I can'sociate with you anymore because that's that's horrible. I mean, So that's
where that guy is now. The deal that he got him gave him three hundred and fifty thousand dollars an episode. That's what he was earning on Empire. That's really good. That's a sweet ast deal. Three hundred and fifty thousand dollars an episode. I'll take it to walk in there and pretend you're someone else for I don't know what is eight nine ten days an episode.
That's a lot more than a Broadway show would make an actor. That's very good because I used to make TV deals, mister Broadway pants, and when we would bring, when we would am I My job was at CBS to pay people as little amount of money as they're willing to work for, because that's the marketplace. So you did it by the quote system, which is since become illegal. And the quote system was call around and see what this person made, and if they were on a TV show and it was a
successful TV show, bump them up five ten thousand an episode. If it was if it never aired, but they were on a pilot, you're going to get the same thing you got last time, and tell you we're on a successful show. So that's how we did it, and you know you could. It's a it's a business you could count on. Uh, it's a little more complicated now, but if we had someone from Broadway, and I would say, like, who do we got here? Uh, Sidney
Portier. This is a true story. I got Sidney Portier's gonna read for this role in this stupid TV show. Okay, I'll call up and make an offer, and then the casting department go, okay, Joe. Now, I don't know if you know who Sidney Portiers, but guess who's coming to dinner? And he is in the Uh, well it's one that one. I forgot that one exactly yeah, but exactly yeah. I go, really, I only heard of one of them. Anyway, I knew he was a a legend. But my job was to pay Sidney Portier the least
amount of money he's willing to work for. So I got to do the quote system. So I call all around. How much does he? Uh? What was he making? Uh? In Broadway? Think something? Meanwhile, I'm paying two hundred and fifty grand a week for William Shatner, two hundred and fifty grand an episode for William Shatner, two hundred grand for Chuck Norris. At the time, Wow, Uh, Sidney Poortier, he was
making like forty five hundred a week. Uh Uh In Broadway. So I you know, they asked me, what are you going to offer him? Don't know, forty five hundred episode. I knew I would offer him a little more than that, but I just wanted them to panic. Oh boy did they panic. Oh my lord, they hit, They just hit the ceiling. I forgot what I ended up. I think I ended up offering him like seventy five an episode. And his agent was said, are you
kidding me? You know, something like that or whatever. If you want to hear Sidney Portier Cuss, go on Spotify and look for the crank call called tussor with Love, which I believe is on there. And he's a he's a beautiful, wonderful man, but this crank caller, guy Longmont postion Castle, got him to lose it. And there are other stories coming up after the break. Joe Ascalante Live from Hollywood, Well Hollywood, you mean
Burbank. We're here with mister Broadway Pants and Sam the Engineer, and we were talking about Terrence Howard suing c AA, the biggest agency in the world, over the show Empire because he claims he was underpaid on the Fox series. And you know, legally, I'm here to tell you, I don't get it. You make an arm's length negotiation and you hire your agents and their agents when you sign with them, they'll tell you that they you know, I would, I would, I would assume like in the language I've
seen for representations, I can't always promise the outcome. You know, we're not here to promise you the ideal outcome, and you don't have to go here. And you can also make these deals yourself. But if you want us to work on behalf of you, you know, you got to kind of tell it. You work with us, but you got to live with
the results unless you find some negligence. And so I guess in a trial we would be looking for some negligence, but I don't think we're going to find them because he just said it was racism just that caused them to not pursue as good a deal as they could have because he was black. So I asked, Sam, if you wanted to live in a world where you could just, you know, sue your agent if you didn't like how the deal turned out absolut years later, and Sam, Sam is a I think
that you should go ahead and do that. I, on the other hand, think that agents have it hard enough, and everybody's sitting around the table saying, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna try to get you the most money that we can get you, and we also want you to understand that the more money you get, the more we get. So it's not like an agent. So you would have to if I'm in the jury, you would have to make me believe that this agent is trying to get the most money
he can to pay for his boat and everything. But if the client's black, he'll pull back a little because it's just not right to ask for that much money because we all understand that, you know, given the situation, he shouldn't have as much money as a white person. Does he think a jury is going to go for that? And the answer, by your eyes is no, no, that's no, a jury won't go for that. But that doesn't it doesn't mean that he doesn't have the right to sue.
Well, what about I'd like to use in the case like this is the courts are there for the people who don't have access to justice on their own. So the court comes in and is for every man and the underprivileged to fight the power. And if you clog the courts with cases from people who are making three hundred and fifty thousand dollars an episode so that they can I like it to say, it's the millionaires trying to become billionaires and now they're
going to use the court system to do it. It could be described as wrong, and you know, he he's using the courts in a way that they can be used. But morally, I think you should let someone else have access to justice and kind of just move on to your next You're also like in Hollywood in general, it's not your first deal that's going to get your rich. You're second or third deal, So just you don't cry so
much about your first deal. And this is not his first. It might be a second or third deal, but three hundred and fifty thousand an episode. He's a superstar, and you know, maybe you should have got profits, but wow, you know, you move on, You move on to your next show, and you get them. There's no reason why he can't get a million in episode someday, likely like other people that have gotten those
fears. There's no there's no reason why he can't. So my advice to you, Terrence is look to the future and get to a million dollars and get those profits, but or produce your own shows and get those profits. But this is a way to not get to a million dollars. Because he even said, he goes, I may never work again because I'm doing this. I'm going after the most powerful agency. And this agency has does have power. Yeah, and they And let's say a movie comes out and says
this is a movie. We've already got Terrence Howard attached. We want to go after this CAAA client of yours. Let's say it's Florence Pugh. I don't know who a re agent is, but we want Florence Peugh to be in this show with with with Terren Toward. How's that gonna go? Sam? Not well, no, no oh, we have a TV show.
It's a million in episode, but it's not for you. We have another one one hundred one thousand in episode, and we we will put Florence Pew in that one because there's only eleven one point one million available for the cast, and we're gonna give a one million to Florence Pugh. We're gonna give a hundred thousand to Terrence Howard because we hate him and he sued us and he called us racist, and we're the most powerful agency in the business.
So if he would have called me, I would have advised against this, and I would think he would he would someday he could get He's a great actor. He was in wo was in Hustle and Flow. What a great movie A long time ago Greig Brewer film. He hit his peak right off the bat, though, Yeah, he like his critical peak was right off the bat. He was great anyway he would he could, he could get there, but the I don't know if this is the best way to get
there. He also had problems when they got him this show. He had a restraining order against him for domestic violence against his wife, Michelle Howard. She claims that he abused her throughout their short marriage, even threatening to kill her. That's her version of it. But the agents, I'm not saying that's true. There's no evidence that I see, you know, just she said he said whatever. But that's what his agents had to go through. And then they had to say, hey, look I got Terrence Howard.
He's mprobably know, he's got some problems in the past. None of that was true, blah blah blah. What he got for him. I got three fifteen episode. Wow, that's pretty good. And do they throw out a figure that he thinks would justify his value. Not yet, because I would like to I'd be curious to know what his market price. He just says there's a lot of wealth there, that there's so much that there was for a while there was fifteen million viewers, so that the generated wealth from
the advertising revenue should be shared with him. Now they don't share advertising revenue with anybody, So what they share is what your profits come from is not from advertising revenue. It's from syndication revenue. Because when you sell a show to a TV series, they're barely paying for the cost of the show.
They might even be underpaying for the cost of the show. But when you sell it in its afterlife, all the Empire episodes, if they're on My TV or Cozy TV or even Netflix for a few years, that's going to generate some money, and that money would be shared with the profit participants. It's arguable whether he should have got that or not, but it's one of those things where you can go forward and you can get it next time,
or you can sue these people and call them races. And I guess the idea is enough is enough, I'm going to sacrifice my career to oh that this happens to other people of color and they've got and we've got to stop. I think that's his point. He's doing it. He's taken one for the team. He doesn't mind if his career suffers because he's gonna do it for actors coming forward. Do not treat other actors of color like this.
And if white people get profits, everybody gets profits if they're talented actors. I'm sure that's what he would tell you he's doing, and he's and it's a noble thing. I'm not smart enough to know whether in the long run that's a more noble thing. The guys who are being called racist to them, they're just like, I'm gonna probably get out of this business and get into the felt industry or something. I can just you know, working on
his day without someone trying to destroy me with accusations like this. Ah. The felt industry is a growth industry, you know what. It's a it's a good business. There's a there's a good business. The filth industry. You get a lot of benefits and all the markers you can handle, and you can you can you help children because sometimes you know, they make those felt uh storyboard hour, you know you here's the sun, you know, and then here's the here's the bird flying by. Those are fun, beauty,
Thanks Sam for making it beautiful. Towards the end, here we got one more segment coming up. Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood continues, Yeah, Joe, ask Colorante. Here's my lawyer. You don't want Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood by Hollywood, you means bird Bank. All right, I've got a lot
of stuff to cover before we get out of here. Uh. The we were talking earlier about January first, Mickey Mouse goes in to blic domain this January first, twenty twenty four, Mickey Mouse from the Steamboat Willie era. Though, So don't be running around getting crazy with the guy, you know, the guy in the wizard hat. None of that. It's just the old rat faced one. A lot of stuff goes into public domain every year.
And mister Broadway Pantry were talking about the Great Gatsby recently went into public domain. Yes, yes it did. And so now there are two musicals that are gonna make make their attempt at reaching Broadway from two different production companies. One ran in October in New Jersey at the paper Mill Playhouse and that started Evan Noble Azzada of Hadestown fame. And then the other one will be premiering in Cambridge in twenty twenty four from the American Repertory Theater, and that
one's just called Gatsby. Gats Now was there or the is the first Broadway treatments of the of the Great Gatsby? To my knowledge it is. I know there is an immersive theater off Broadway immersive production of the Great Gatspeed, but I don't know if there's ever been a Broadway show. As long as there's not an immersive rent, then I'll be okay, okay, well yeah, so And the one thing to keep in mind about Mickey Mouse in the as your attorney, I have to advise you there's still a trademark on Mickey
Mouse for theme parks. So this isn't like you can associate Mickey Mouse with your product. You know, you can't say I've got Mickey Mouse cupcakes or whatever Mickey Mouse rave I'm putting on or whatever. They have a trademark. They have so many trademarks they will come after you. But so you could take the rat face Mickey mouse and you could put them on something and get
away with it. But you got to be really careful because just because you think you're following all the rules doesn't mean they won't send you a cease and desist and just make your life hell. So you got to be careful with that kind of stuff. All right, back to what we were talking about before with Terrence what's his name, Terrence Howard and some we got another case. Well, actually this one doesn't have anything to do with that one.
This one involves fifty Cent. He's developing a documentary on the P Diddy allegations, because you know P Diddy has got a lot of women suing them for sexual assault, and isn't that weird? Like fifty Cent's going to take the lead on this very strange. Yeah, So I mean, why would you want to, like, why would you want to do that? And you're
gonna make any money? Well, actually this thing might make money. He put on Twitter that he is going to proceeds from this documentary will go to victims of sexual assault and rape very good, not just sexual assault, also rape very good. We got to support those shorties. You know, yeah, okay, so I just thought that was weird. I just thought that was weird. Now we got another story about trying to like get to everything Adam McKay's don't look up. Did anybody here see it? Uh no,
but I remember you telling me about your feelings about it. I thought it was good. A lot of people said it was uh. You know, Leonardo DiCaprio in it, and he's always good. And it was one of those streaming movies like during the pandemic. You're like, hey, we don't have to go to the theater, We're going to watch premiere Hollywood Entertainment right here in our homes. And I had didn't have a problem with it. Some people thought it was dumb. I'm one of those people. You thought
it was dumb, mister Broadway and hester didn't care for it. But there's a problem. So we don't know how much it made. It was on Netflix. They didn't really tell you. But in twenty twelve, a Louisiana Baths author published a book called Stanley's Comment and he claims they stole his book. He says they just and then okay, what do you okay? Could that be true? What do you have to have. What are the two things we must have for a copyright infringement case. Well, I don't expect
you to remember, but number one is we need substantial similarity. Are these products or these works substantially similar? Meaning could it would it be too hard to believe that they were independently created. One of them had to copy from the other. So to the point where you say, oh, they are substantially similar in a legal sense, okay, so you have to have that. The number one is you have to have access. The one person had
to have access to the material. So if you send it to somebody and they say, oh, thank you very much, and then they make something very similar, that's the access. If you if it was widely disseminated and published and everybody saw it, like maybe the movie Star Wars. Everybody had access to Star Wars. So that we assume the axis is there substantial similarity we're gonna for the tryers of fact maybe to discover. And it's kind of
like it. It couldn't have been independently thought of, you know, like monkeys in a typewriter, monkeys in a room with the type of a thousand, monkeys with a thousand typewriters, and they all work, and it goes on for a long time, and the monkeys live long enough to spit out some Shakespeare. It's a lot of work hours. Yeah, it's a lot of work hours, and there's no lost time accidents. Then you could if that, if it couldn't happen that way, then you have substantial similarity.
In this case, the access that William Caller is is asserting is that he gave it to this one girl who gave it to this one guy who worked for the company that represented Adam McKay, And so there is a little chain and it was sent over there, and you could infer that it was sent there to his representative. He got a chance to look at it. That's if you're trying the other if you're Adam McKay or so, I didn't see that book. I don't read everything book that comes into my my manager's office.
I don't know who this guy is. So where did the idea come from? So if there's a lawsuit, he'd have to reveal, Well, here's where I got it from. I thought of it very creative, and Adam McKay is very creative. Now, what about the substantial similarity as I have gone over this thing, so you don't have to. It looks to
me like there's no smoking gun. It's just, well, there's a guy who discovers that a comment's going to land on the earth and he's trying to tell everybody, Hey, everybody, you got to pay attention to this, and for political reasons, they ignore him, and then you know the comment's coming and m mister Brody pinch. Do you think two people could think of that same plot if they've seen the movie armyged In? Ooh ooh possibly oh sick per sicker. Yeah, it's that kind of thing where you kind of
go back. Or maybe he didn't steal from them, maybe he stole it from someone else. Yeah, So we'll follow this story and keep you up to date on who's gonna win and whether this guy's going to get a pay day or they're gonna because if they, you know, because he either fight if you're Adam and Kay, either fight it like screw that guy, or you're like, well, I just give him some money, but then I'm gonna have to admit that I stole it, So that's how these things go.
Or he has to share his story about how he came up with the idea. Yeah, maybe that's not a pretty story. No, maybe he stole it from a child something that was Yeah, yeah, starving African child. That would be even worse. All right, So, Uh, anyway, we're gonna wrap up things here pretty soon, and I want to let you know that the Vandal's Christmas Show is sold out at the at the Anaheim
Uh how the Blues. It's sold out really early this year, so you're not going to get to see that there if you don't already have tickets. But we added a second night at the Ventura, the Majestic Ventura Theater in Ventura, California. It's a nice spot, right, so you can see it there. And there's a million tickets available for that. I mean not a million, but there's some. By the time you're hearing this in the podcast, that could be gone, so you better hurry. The entire population
of Ventura County will be there. All the Nardcourt people we have will be there. We have to celebrate Josh's birthday. Yeah, Josh Frees, our drummer, was born on Christmas Day and that's always special. And this year the theme of the Christmas shows is fruitcake delicious. I was thinking we could start calling it Josh Miss Josh Miss. Keep working on that, all right, I'll run it through some people and see if we can come up with
something better. That's pretty good. See my nephew over here, mister brodbay pants beat you there, you go, all right? Let's I now will leave you with just a taste of the greatest song ever written. What would feel