Jesus Christ Show | Hour 3 [10/29]

You're listening to KFI AM on demand. Jim, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hello, Hi you Jim. How can I help you? Is this double H? Yes, this is the Holy Host H to the h H Squared. I get My major question is I'm going through a divorce after thirty one years and then, oh, I'm sorry to hear that, Jim. Yeah, yeah, it's you know, things happened in the world. It was financial, some emotional, some other stuff. It's financial finances is

what brought this to the surface. Oh yeah, yeah, Oh that breaks my heart. I thought that something so well, Okay, but and she's the thing is that she's involved in a major church, and we were involved in that major church together, and then since she made the decision to the worst meetings stuff. It's the church seems it seems like it backs them up. But they kind of make a statement the families forever, you know,

and a lot of their teachings about family forever. And you know, I was a good part of the church for many years, and you know, I haven't had any contact with these people. And I know I've tried to go back a couple of times. It just I just didn't feel like I was wanted to kind of thing, you know, so I kind of feel bad about that. My wife and my youngest daughters still go. But you

know, I see, And there's another whole aspect of this too. I mean a couple of years ago, I got double pneumonia and the swine flu, and I had died a couple of times on the live support. Yeah, I think, uh, my goodness, so you died a couple of times, and and and this, yeah, this is did we speak before? No, I don't think huh, you don't hear that often the whole died a couple of times. Now, when when this occurred? Uh?

When this occurred? Uh? This is a clinical death right that they're just stopping at the heartbeat, is what you're talking about, right, Yeah, first time had stopped or they failed two and a half minutes, and a couple of days later was three and a half minutes. My goodness. So you've all that stuff. So you've had your share of some some ugly times and some very rough times, and you're trying to work yourself through them.

Now, Yeah, that's that's exactly what t well, You're The thing that it is about churches is their their community, and unfortunately, sometimes in that community, they don't always know how to deal with everything. We've kind of this has been a running theme throughout the show and started with the concept of Halloween and paganism, all these things and what you cut out of your life

and what you don't. Sometimes the church really doesn't know how to spawn to certain ugly parts of life, the divorce and things like that, or even the death of someone or strange circumstances or whatever it is, and they just they don't run to the aid of And this isn't all churches, but some do. And this may or may not be the church that you were attending in the case, but in that case as well. But really the important thing is for you to find a church to grow and to be rooted in,

regardless of whether it's that church you were originally in or not. Is there a what is your goal in all of this? What are you trying to Are you trying to get the family back together? Are you trying to make yourself whole again? What is your goal? I think the primary thing would be to make myself whole again so I can get the family back again. We have four children too, so we're not just we didn't just screw up their lives, you know, their friends and all of our friends all

over relatives. I mean thirty one years of building up. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot of you know. And then the crazy thing is that you know it, I think there's some way it could be admitted. I just don't know how to get it all back together. And you know, it's a long I think it's a long term plan, but you know, and I just don't feel comfortable going back to that church right now. And they haven't even, like I said, they haven't even reached out

one dime and said, hey, you know how you doing. You know, it's like, really, is it a large church? A very large church. Yeah, that happens. It's a very lot of there's many, many of them, you know. So it's as like I said, it's just ah, and there's you know, there's some factors the churches. I've always been turned off about it as a hypocritical attitude of some people. It's like it's Okay, you shouldn't do that, or and I should do this.

And listening to you, how you're saying that to find the middle road, because everything you do is not always, So that's a terrible thing, you know, just like watching you know, you know, Halloween movie or something. You know, that's not like you're the devil worship or you're enjoying a movie or something. No. I find that the church likes the pendulum to swing hard left or hard right. And and that doesn't mean to be mediocre. I say in scripture, if you're luke warm, I'll spit you

out of my mouth. It's not to be lukewarm. It's a matter of finding that true balanced Jim. It's a matter of saying, okay, well, where is a place of health for me and something that will not distract or take me away from the Gospel or my faith. And in your circumstances, in going through pain or a divorce or any of these things can be

quite distracting. And God's desire is always for reconciliation when possible. If your wife's not here to talk and speak for herself, but I'd be I'd be curious to see, Jim, if your wife was on the phone and I asked her why you guys got a divorce? What do you think the top

three reasons she would give. Oh, she would probably start off with did I don't have to have a steady income, you know, because I had you know, I've obviously you know, I was in the hospital for two weeks, you know, a couple of years ago then they you know, it took me two or three months to recuperate from that. So okay, what would be the second, I would say, So that would be the financial aspect that I would think. Second would be any type of any type

of drinking of alcohol whatsoever. And at the same time she she goes out and has Martinas and has a beer to him. I'm not I'm a casual drinker, but you know she thinks that that, you know, and I've never ever got I'm not a person that gets abusive, uh ever, you know, but you know, okay, I'll let you We'll go by these point by point here. But and then the third, I would say,

the relationship that I had with the four kids. You know, the all four kids are pretty much like and I hate to say this, but on my side, you know, they take their mama's you know, their mother went has gone through a menopause, you know, so after doing all that menopause and stuff and everything, she did like a one eighty at one point, and I was, you know, I was financially trying to help her in her business, her things that she was doing, and she got to

be kind of a drain on the family money. And then okay, yeah, we owned her sisters a bunch of money and her sister never paid it back. Okay, Well, well we have a bunch of issues there. You know, there's a lot of issues there, and those going in a couple of different directions, Jim, So, I would say the financial one may deal with something just beyond finances. Have you always been kind of in

and out of work? No? Not, you know, never. Actually I've only a couple of businesses and I've done I've made you know, tons of money and if employed mostly or I've worked for companies for you know for five six, seven years and maybe you know with a general manager, made tons of money. And then we've always lived in you know, in South County. It's always my kids always went to the same elementary school, the same middle school. Now like kids always you know, they were to sports

and wrestling, softball, whatever. Well, I'm going to say this, Jim, just out of because the sake of time and the opportunity we have is that you need to take those three answers that you gave me that you think your wife would say, and you need to make a list for yourself is to what part you played in them and how you can change them or where you need to work on them. You know, sickness and things like that. It will come and go, but you have to look at those

things. I want you to go through each one of them and decide what your part in them, in each of them is, And I want you to call me back next week preferably if you can, if not, the following week, and let's talk again so we can go over those, sort through those and see what your part is for making you a better you first before you get back into the relationship. John, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Yes, I've had a question about your name. What the name

Jesus? Yeah, what is a real name, because well, it all depends on it. It all depends on from where you stand. The actual name is Yeshurmsk in the Hebrew, but it's not the full name. Jesus or Joshua is actually referring to my actual name. Jesus is the modification of that name, and it's what people are most comfortable with now. But a lot of people think that the term Christ that comes after it is part of

my name, and it's not. That actually stands for my title. It means the chosen one, and that in context, it was pointing out that I was the Messiah that was spoken about in the Old Testament. Now, if you have questions further than that, maybe your question was actually more about this program and what this show is about. While I will leave that up to you and do an investigation on your own, I'm sure you're a very very smart man who can figure that out as to why we're here and what

we're doing. And that's a whole different question. But names are important throughout scripture. If you look at the names of people, they had more weight and more meaning than they do now. Now sometimes people will name their child after somebody special or after something special, or about the time that they were born and things like that, And in two thousand years ago, it was more important to have a name that described something. Really, that's what it

was doing. It was a name described a situation or a person or a happenstance that was surrounding that person's birth. That really lent itself to the beauty of the name. Last names didn't exist. Last names were simply a description of where you were from or a description of who you were born, unto maybe your parents. That's why, like the name Josephson or Johnson or these types of things that you hear, you think, oh, well, that's

the last name. No, really, if you take it apart, it was referring to someone being Joseph's son, John's son, and it was a description as to from where they came, which was of great importance in the Bible. You'll find a lot of that. Joseph of Aramathea, Jesus of Nazareth, these types of things a judas is scariot, describing certain attributes or places they come from, or things that they did. And in that way you learn a little something about someone just by here in their name. Scott,

Welcome to the Jesus Christia. Hi, Hi, but glad you could take my call, my pleasure. What's going on? Well, I just you know, I'm just kind of in a quandary. I've been married for about ten years and me and my wife have you know, got along great early on, and now it's developed more kind of into roommate status and we haven't been intimate in about three or four years. Oh goodness. Yeah,

And I don't know how to turn it around. And I'm kind of a passionate when you know, I tried to do the romance and all that stuff, and she's just cold to that. And I'm not shooting my own horn, but I'm you know, I'm an attractive man, and so I just don't know what's healthy and what I should where you draw the line or what well? And is it? Would you consider your home a Christian home?

Yeah? Okay, so you're both believers? Yeah, okay. And you say three or four years ago, did it like kind of trickle out? Yeah, it kind of trickled out. I mean, you know, we had our ups and downs in our relationships like any couple does and everything like that, and then it just kind of disappeared and never been able to get that part back. I mean, we get along great as friends, we go out and do things together, we go on vacations together, but the

physical part is non existent. Hm. And you know what, I want to talk to you more about this because I think it's it's it's a bigger issue than some people may think. And the fact that you were so bold to call in, and a lot of a lot of men wouldn't. In this case, I really want to take a look at a couple of things and ask you some questions. Can you can you stick around for a moment, Yeah, okay, hold on, and then when we come back,

I'll ask you a couple more questions. We were talking with Scott. Scott, you're still with us. You were saying that you've been married for ten years. Yeah, about ten years, okay, and the past four or so three years there or four years, your wife slowly had less and less interest in sex. And you say, other than that, the relationship is great. You guys, you know, go out, you see movies, you hang out together, you go on vacations together, but no sex.

Right. Has your wife prior had any medical issues at all or changed medications or anything like that. Well, yeah, I mean she said some medications when it comes to the things such as fibromyogia and things of that nature, which she could be a contributing factor. She has some hormone issues and some sleep bud sure issues and so forth, but she's never been, you know,

a real sexual type of creature. So going into this marriage. When you guys were first married, she wasn't even it's terribly interested in sex, or yes she was, but not she wasn't a wild yet like some of the ladies I'd had in the past. Wow. Well, okay, okay, Scott, that might be filed under t M I maybe, but I appreciate the insight the reason why I ask these things. This is not a medical show. Of course, we look at the spiritual aspects of things,

and from a biblical and mainstream Christian perspective. But I asked those things because all of that kind of points to the direction of, you know, where one might look for answers in something like this. Now, when it first started, you say, three or four years ago, what would be the excuse or the response to you becoming amorous and approaching her sexually for her? Yeah, when she just shut you down cold. I have a headache. I've got to rearrange my sock drawer. What kind of response? I mean,

it would just be just about anything, you know. It would be you know, not feeling well, too much stress at work, you know, those kind of kind of things. Even when we get away on vacations or whatever. It seems to always land on her cycle, so to seek those kinds of issues that you would come up with. And you know, we've been rebuilding our relationship slowly, you know, like I said, we've had some lips downs in Okay, Well what are those ups and downs When

you say you're rebuilding, what are you rebuilding? What was torn down or broken? Well, you know, I have a son from a previous marriage that lived with this for a bit, not a previous marriage, but previous girlfriend, and uh, you know that caused a little bit of differences of opinions. Years ago. I used to drink, I repented and I haven't drunk in years, stuff like that. So there there there were some of those issues that that what kind of drinker were you? Were you a mean

drunk? Well, I'm sloppy, sloppy okay, yeah, an embarrassing drunk okay, Yeah, And did did and that was done in front of her quite often. Uh yeah, she was. She wore witnessed to that. But at the same time, you know, she loves me and I loved her, and I went and took care of that and she's always been supportive of that. And uh, you know that that isn't the issue certainly now, Uh you know that's that's some time ago. And uh, you know the reason why I bring that up though, Scott, So you know is

that sometimes in relationships you get in different modes. And let's say she, of course she loves you, you love her, and she's in that mode of taking care of you when you're sloppy, drunk, and it takes her energy and all of those things that sometimes the resentment builds up, and then when you're well, your partner can become quite distant, still working through those things in those memories or gosh, I remember this or that as they one

start to learn the new you and how the new you works and the healthy you works and all of those things, and they can be resentful of well, how came you didn't do it sooner? Or do you not care? There's a lot of things the Majal the illnesses, let's put it that way. The illness is that you named four or five of them actually that might play a part, or even hormones specifically. Some of them deal with pain, some of them do not. Does she ever comment about pain? Oh,

yeah, she's a pain quite a bit, and so on. But I don't think that that would be necessarily the reason behind it. I guess my concern is, you know, I'm married, I but her fibromyalogia does that does that manifest itself in pain? Yes? Okay, yeah, and that's been since you that's been pretty much you know, the whole marriage, Okay. And the hormone thing that that concerns me quite a bit. The hormone. You said there was hormone issues and she on medication. Yeah,

yeah, some degree. I mean she didn't take the estrogens and stuff like that because the cancer so far, but she she takes, you know, some different medications which could affect could affect that absolutely, not only could, but probably do. I mean, there's a lot to it. And the reason that's why I wanted to kind of hear that stuff because those things you need to see a medical doctor and see how this plays. And she's got to have interest in doing that because she's gonna have to play a big part

scripturally. The reason why we didn't go straight to scripture because I could tell that there was something underlying. There's some other concerns as well, But I would encourage you to read First Corinthians chapter seven and goes through the concept of the principles for a married life. And one of those things in verse five talks about not depriving one another of sex. When you're married, you should never deprive each other of sex except for times of prayer and menstruation period.

So and I know sometimes people have headaches, it doesn't matter. Coming together and having that time to be together is very important for both men and women, and it's healthy. So it sounds to me like this is beyond just celibacy or her not being interested. Uh. And it sounds like beyond just the spiritual needs and the and the things that I mentioned in First Corinthians seven is that there's some medical issues that need to be addressed. And the only

the thing about sex when you're married, there's a partnership. That partnership, Scott, is something that you've built along with your wife. And you build it up and you say, you're you're a good looking man. I'm sure she's a beautiful woman. And and those are the things that that first brought

you together. And you see different things in each other and it's exciting and you engage in this this wonderful God given union that is uh, it's only for you guys, you know, it's intimate and it's connective, and it's beautiful and all those things. But outside of the picture, it's like watching, you know, people dance without music. It looks silly, and if people thought about what they were doing when they dance, it becomes silly.

But when you're just feeling the music and letting yourself go, it's wonderful. So similarly so is sex in marriage. That when you let yourself go and you're so connected, then you just react and you do and you enjoy. But if you start to parse it or intellectualize it or make too much out of it, it becomes awkward and weird. So when there's a space of time of any kind, let alone three or four years, re engaging that part of your life will be strange and not exciting like when you were first

married. Strange where you're learning about each other's bodies and once and desires and things like that. It becomes a new type of strange because whether you believe it or not, whether you're good looking, she's good looking, whether you've been with people in your past or she's been with people, it doesn't matter. There's still that that does, that desire to be accepted by your partner, and in the back of your head the thought, well did I do

something to make her not want me? Or her thinking well, you know, I've gone through you know, hormone issues and medical issues, and and I don't know, maybe she has scars or dozen or bodies body has changed. There's a new awkwardness that comes to it comes to play in the situation,

and and so you know it's going to be awkward. And I think in order to bring that back one, I think sharing times of intimacy and scripture and prayer and things like that a great start too, to get into some counseling, possibly with the past to help guide you guys back into that

part of your lives. And three and very important is to go see seek medical help and sit down with a doctor and really go not just for the aches and pains or for the things that she's going through, but you go in with her and to talk about the fact that you guys aren't having sex, that you guys aren't coming together and having that part of your life, because the resentment is already going to be wedged in there at this point, no matter how kind you are, no matter how kind she is, and

it's going to take a little bit to kind of break that and not feel weird about it and just make it natural and normal again and part of your relationship, which is where it should be and needs to be. If you get to that point, it can be a huge problem in a relationship. And you know, God bless you for standing by her and not taking the easy way out and looking for you know, other sexual partners and so on. The world would say, oh, yeah, you deserve it, go

do it. You got it. And partially she is abandoning the marriage, and I get that. But to stand firm and strong in your conviction convictions and look at this as an opportunity of growth and newness in the relationship can be very wonderful and exciting. It's just going to need some outside help to get you to that point. So you read that homework that I gave you in First Corinthians, chapter seven. You pray on what your next step is.

You pray with your wife, You find pastoral counseling or somebody that can help bring those issues together about reigniting that. And you find medical help to figure out what is going on and how some of the medications or the hormone balance or imbalance or these types of things are affecting her desire to be with

you sexually. Started earlier today talking about the concept of paganism and how it permeates really everything, that if as a believer you are trying to run from anything dealing with paganism, that you will have an easier time trying to pick

an actor who hasn't been in a film with who Tony Kevin Bacon. And that is to say that there in life and in culture, the cultures are built upon really somebody living in a place looking to the left and looking to the right and seeing what the natural resources are to make clothing, to make

food, and this becomes the culture. So if you know, you see the Mexican culture culture, or you see you know, to this side you see a Native American culture, or you keep looking around and seeing, oh, well, this is the German culture and the if you pull them apart, you'll start seeing that they intertwine quite a bit. And the Mexican culture the use of certain instruments, including you know, playing certain types of songs that sound like their ompapa when you when you hear them, you go,

well, where did that come? Well? That comes from Germany. So when you see these things or hear them and you go, well where did this come from? Where you'll find that they meld together. American Indians are no longer living in teepees. Well, culture changes and grows, and it's not that the accordion was native to Mexico. It's that it's brought there and then that gets used and the foods if you look, it's the region.

I'm always humored by people that go into different parts of Central America and the like and start looking for to thinking, well, right, they've got beans, they've got rice, they've got it. No, they don't, and that there's difference. Even though there's gonna be similarities in certain places, are going to be differences and others. And this is the same with religion or

faith. You have the Word of God, which is in scripture and pointing to things both culturally that were going on in the time, both with Pagans and with our Jewish brothers and sisters, and these things are all taking part and going in different directions for serving particular purposes and still intertwined with their immediate cultures as well. The food of the day and the you know, the you think of the passover. You think of the things that are taking place

with the breaking of bread. That's all because that was the culture of the time. So some things around religion will change as well, if you'd want to rid yourself of all pagan concepts. It's not about Halloween. Halloween really, although it's a derivative if you trace it all the way back to Sowin, which was a Celtic festival. Yes, well you can say, well that's pagan, but then you have Pope Gregory Iird designating November first is All

Saints' Day. Then the day prior automatically became all hollows Eve and that becomes Halloween. So it has a Christian twist throughout the centuries as well. And you start looking at these things and seeing that it's more than just the obvious. And that's what I want from you when you're using discernment, discern not just based on the obvious, but about a true understanding about what's going on.

There are things in Christianity that our direct result of paganism. The Cross most certainly, the fish and the application of the fish fish most certainly. You look at the symbol for virgo. You can look it up online and you'll see the fish embedded in that very symbol, along with the Hebrew character for mem You'll see these things. There's more to it than just a clean lineage, and that's because people are participating in it. Doesn't mean have the

necronomicon in your house or pentagrams. It's not what I'm saying saying use good judgment, healthy judgment. Don't have that attitude of just zero tolerance, because that's just lazy spirituality. I appreciate you taking the time to join me today. Enjoy yourself, and above all things, be safe. And more importantly than all the craziness in the world, these simple words I want you to remember. I am with you always. KFI am sixty on demand