Jesus Christ Show | Hour 3 [07/16]

You're listening to kf I AM sixty on demand. Marcella. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Good morning, Thank you for having me my pleasure of Marcella. What's on your mind? Well, I actually was just keepping through stations and came across your station. So first of all, I just want to know what it is that you preach. You know, I know Christianity is getting watered down a lot in this nation, so I just want to understand where you're coming from. And then I just want to follow up with

the question that Dorsey asked. Okay, this, as far as this program goes, the content is scripturally based and the primary focus of the program is from an apologetic and philosophical stance on traditional mainstream Christianity, non denominationally. Okay, all right, Um, So then with my question with Dorothy, unless I misunderstood you, he was asking like why Christians are like allowing the rainbow

to be used pervertedly? And I'm not sure you really answered his question because there are Christians who are not allowing it to be used that way, and you know, it becomes why do Christians have a right to say how the rainbow flag or rainbow, anything can be used. You think that you own it or Christianity owns the rainbow because they have a scripture that says so in Genesis. It's not about owning it. It's about spreading the truth of what

scripture says. Because we are not of this earth, we're here to write. What about what about someone else's faith? Marcella, excuse me? If people are in darkness, we are supposed to, you know, shine the light and lead the weight. And that doesn't involve hating people. Marcella, do you believe that? Do you believe that scientology it coincides with scripture? Um? No, I don't, but I do know that it has gotten

some of its beliefs from scripture. But I don't. Okay, So you don't think that so that actually leads somebody down a false path by your definition of these things. Yet they have of the Cross on the top of their buildings. And you won't hear mainstream Christianity going over and being upset about somebody who's teaching potentially false teachings that will actually lead them to eternal damnation by scripture

standard Christian scripture standard. But yet Americans will go towards whether a rainbow flag is owned by them. The misplate, the misplacement of this, And my biggest concern is that Christianity and Conservatism in the United States are blurring the lines of which is which. Politics have become such a huge part of Christianity that it is the modern day Golden Calf. It is taking people away from the truth of Scripture and using it to look towards politics, conservative politics in particular.

And I assure you God is not a Republican, and God is not a Democrat, and God is not an American. So in the United States, Marcella, you can be guided as a Christian by the Bible, but the country is not. The country is guided by the Constitution of the United States, and so they don't. I'm saying that you're making a point that Christians hate the gay community, and it's not true, and I'm not understanding where you're getting that from. And Christians are quick to be open and speak

about any thing that goes against the Bible, including scientology. So you know, I have friends and relatives that are part of the community and I love them very much, So I don't understand where you're hearing this. And the majority actually all the persons I know don't feel the way that you are representing them. And I believe that they say that, but I don't To say that they can't use a rainbow flag and to say that they have perverted the

rainbow flag is ridiculous. Well, maybe we're talking about two separate issues. Then maybe it's not the rainbow flag, but it's the rainbow they've perverted. They've perverted the promise of God, and they've taken that symbol and used it for a perversion. And the perversion is a sinful lifestyle. It's not a lifestyle box and domes. And we know God is a righteous God, and He has called us to live holy and separate from this world. And giving

into that style is living in this world. Okay, Well, if you're going to say that there is a reference to abomination on how about gossip? Do you think that if gossipers used the rainbow flag, you'd be upset if gossipers use the rainbow flag? Would you be upset if anyone uses what God has ordained us holy and perverts it, Yes, I would be upset. God did not make the rainbow holy. The rainbow is not holy in the Christian in the Christian in faith it is holy, but to other faiths it's

not. Now, I realize that there is a desire to make things, to own things, but I genuinely don't think that there was any intent to make the cross holy, to make Echthus or the fish holy, or any of those things. That's humanity. Humanity wants to make things holy and special. They think if you go to Israel, it's going to be more special than it is to be anywhere else. As if God only lives one place and is another's. Humanity makes things different. Humanity makes things up, Marcella,

to make them feel better and to connect. God doesn't make stuff holy, people or holy. So the churches are not holy, their churches, their building. What from God is holy? Then if God spirit, the spirit is holy, there's no ground that is holy, because you know why, because humans worship it. They'll worship anything if they think that, oh, this is holy, what is truly holy? And what was was the holy of holies and things like that that don't exist anymore in that sense,

and that was for a particular time. My point is, Marcella, is that Christians are focusing on things rather than spirituality. The teaching of Scripture and the things that are. I mean, even a Bible is not holy, the words in it are. But Christians get offended by anything and this world it means nothing, nothing, and then they try and make it out is if anybody that points out hey throughout Scripture, it says to be set apart, you are to be set apart from the world. But there are people

that don't believe the same way you do. And in the United States they get to do whatever based on their belief system. But oftentimes Christians believe that their thoughts should be everyone's thoughts. But in the United States, it's the freedom of religion, it's the freedom of ideas, and to try and cut

people off from that makes you a bad American. You should be thrilled that people are loved and have their ability to have their own ideas in the United States, because that's one of the reasons, one of the main reasons there was a revolutionary war. Yes there were taxes and all of that involved as well, but to be able to have this freedom. But Christians tend to

be the type of thing. I want religious freedom for Christianity, but you wouldn't say you want religious freedom for the Church of Satan, but that's a religion, that's a belief system, and in the United States has to be part of it. Christians say they should be prayer in school, Okay, Muslim prayers, Jewish prayers, Pagan prayers. No, you want your representation,

and I assure you there are others that you're not complaining about. I don't hear people clamoring to skittles saying I can't believe you're telling them to eat the rainbow given as a signed by God and you're making it something you're going to masticate and then defecate. You don't own it. Hold the promise,

love the promise. Don't be ridiculous because it makes Christianity sound ridiculous. I call more than anything else on this program that has been around for over two decades, I call for you to be introspective, not just the teachings that you've heard over and over and over again, but to be introspective as to why, why would this be? Why? And this is new, by

the way, more new than ever before. If you hadn't heard or last segment the concept of the LGBTQ plus parts of your community absconding with the rainbow and using it on their flag and Christians now being upset. That's fairly new. I mean, it's happened before, but it is coming into a new light. And although yes, kids and people have been wearing the rainbow for a long time, it really is a thing of beauty because it's about inclusion.

And in the case of the promise in scripture, you have to understand it was a promise to the world that God wouldn't flood the planet again. It wasn't a promise to Christians because the world was not made up of only Christians. The world wasn't going to be only Christians. God didn't say I'm going to not do that for you guys only. It will only flood in other places. And I see it being lost in what these things truly mean. And you hear people getting upset. But okay, there are Christians that

get circumstised, and there's Christians that don't get circumstised. They're not under the first promise in the same way either. But American Christians look for reasons to push people away or to use it as if it is their right to demand the United States to play by their rules, even though there are multiple different belief systems in the United States. For that, I want you to think.

For that, I want you to understand. For that, I want you to see how you change things based on what your political beliefs are rather than what your scriptural and faith based beliefs are. Bill, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Oh hello Jesus. Hi, Bill, you know I have a question. Okay, the mind is a little perplexing. It's something that it just doesn't seem to jib. We are told in the Bible that

we have free will to do what we wish, good or bad. But by the same token, we are told, but God has a plan for us. Well, if God has a plan for us of what we should do and where we're going to be, but yet we have free will that could mess up that plan any time along. How does it all work out? Well? Bill, do you have children? Yes? I do. Did you have hopes, desires, plans for them? I wish them the very best That I do have plans and desires, and they are grown and

they are fulfilling those. Both of those are quite fine people, well wonderful. So you did your job, but they still had free will. But what you did was you made sure they had the tools. You built a tool belt for them, and you did your best best as a parent to equip them with the tools they'll need in any situation. But they still had to use those tools and choose by themselves how to use them and when to use them. Correct. Oh, I see so I yes, I understand

that. Okay, So I don't always agree with what they have, Josh, Well, nor does God, I assure you. But think of it this way, Bill. A lot of people don't understand prayer. Christians are constantly asking me about prayer and how does it work, And a lot of Christians use it as if God is a cosmic bellhop and they're going to pray something and God's going to go, sure, I'll go get that for you.

And that's not how it works. When you're with a child in the grocery store, for instance, the child is sitting there in the cart, going, Daddy, I want this, Daddy, I want that. That's the child's prayer, and then the adult has to look around and say, I know you want that, but there's something better for you. We're not just going to buy sugar retreats, because that's not good for your stomach. It's not good for your body. You need more nutrients than that, So

we're going to do this. The prayer is not your way of guiding God as to what you want. Prayer is God's way of allowing you to ask for something and God to correct it, to teach you what God wants for you, the same as a parent guides the child to say, I get you want that, and we will have it on special occasions, but I

want this for you because it's best for you. Now. Those things work together perfectly, actually, because one you start tuning your spirit into what God wants for you by asking things and God saying no, yes, maybe or later. But that's how you build that relationship. So yes, all options. The plan is already built. This is the plan, the path I have for you. But people will go in and out of it throughout their life, and some leave the path altogether and leave the faith. And that's

that their free will wins out. God doesn't force anybody down that path, because that's not true love that they can't force somebody to do something. You know, when somebody comes home to you at the end of the night, it's because they want to be there, hopefully, and not because they have to be there. So it's the balance of those things that really make the relationship between God and man, the dance and the beauty of understanding, learning

and choosing right. Thank you. Your analogy of a parent and child helps me put the by relationship with God. It's a perspective. And I appreciate that. That was very wise and thank you. Oh well, I appreciate you taking the call the time to call Bill. That's very nice of you to say, and I wish you the best it oftentimes you can see the

relationship between God and humankind with parents and children. The entirety of scripture, and most people don't think of it this way, but the entirety of scripture is really about relationships. And it's even the Ten Commandments, if you split them almost in half, half are basically about your relationship with God and then half are about your relationship with humankind. And really everything in scripture is pointing towards our relationship with God, right and as a human, you have to

have that relationship with God to guide your path. If you look at the entirety of scripture and you think, because a lot of people go, gosh, that Old Testament or what Christians refer to as the Old Testament. That Old Testament sure is a mean God, and then it changes. I remind them to look at it as the lifespan of a child, because a child is more directed early on, don't touch that, don't do this, don't

do that, all of those things at the beginning. And then slowly as the child grows and understands and has logic and reason and understands things, is where you start to talk to that child and allow them more decision making.

And that's what the entire year of Scripture is. So it starts as an infant, the world, the planet, the children in it starts as an infant, and you could see God a little more stern and focused on getting people into shape and focused, and then slowly gets more towards the analytical, the conversational, the logical, the reasonable, just like you would with a child. And if you look at that, and when you see those things, you get a better grasp of what God's trying to teach. Always that

parental and child relationship. You know, our time is limited here on the program and in life as well, and learning and understanding what is important in faith versus what is important in your other beliefs, your political beliefs, and your understanding of your own nation. I know it creeps Americans out to think that I am not an American. I'm not bound by the Constitution, but

as a Christian American, you are bound by both. People want to make me basically what they are and kind of make me a bigger version of them, rather than understanding. I don't belong to any political party. I'm not Republican, I'm not a Democrat. I'm not part of the Green Party. I'm not a Libertarian. I am outside of your political system. Another thing that Christians, especially in America, don't get right is the judgment part and

what they're supposed to be doing who they're supposed to be judging. First Corinthians five twelve makes it fairly simple that your goal is not to judge outsiders, non believers. It says, for what business of mine is it to judge outsiders? Do not judge those who are within the church. Do you not judge those who are in the church. This says you're called as a Christian to judge the people in your church, to judge the people who are Christians.

That is your job. It is none of your business. To judge outsiders. They don't believe what you believe. It's the equivalent of you, as an American being concerned about the speed limits of other countries. They don't adhere to your laws. They are not Americans. It's like the reference to people in Europe driving on the wrong side of the road says, who maybe you are? Or people in Europe while they have interesting accents, well so

do you. You have an accent to them. You don't hear it when you're in the United States, and people in their destinative where they live and breathe in Europe don't think that they have accents you do. It's a very interesting thing that happens with Americans, the assumption that everything revolves around you, and Christians in the United States tend to be even worse about it, to truly believe that your beliefs should be thrusted upon everybody. But again, the

Christian is guided by scripture. Americans are guided by the Constitution. Christian Americans are guided by both. You can't outlaw what you think is a sin. You can't outlaw things that are just from a Christian point of view, because the Constitution is the document that guides the United States. Try not to forget that the Christian community has pushed out a lot of people that want and need God because they've made it about what they believe rather than what they're called to.

In Scripture, you're called to be a light. You're called to be inclusive. You're called to help change hearts through prayer and connection and answering. Giving an answer when someone asks you, not just shoving it down their throat, but giving an answer to them when they ask about the hope that lies

within you. That is the power of Scripture. Have a wonderful, wonderful remainder of your Sunday, and we always remember these simple words, outside of all the craziness, outside of the pain or whatever is going on in your country, I am with you always, KF I am six forty on demand