You're listening to KFI on demand. Marvin, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Yes, Jesus, we know that you was born. Um. The courtion I have is that he did it said that before you came into this reality, that you was in a place called heaven. Okay. Also in
this place called heaven was one that called Satan was there. Um. At this point, I'm saying that when you came to this uh reality, this this world, and you came to the Jewish people okay, and the Jewish people they did not accept you as the truth da and the true prophet that you was, that that you were from actually from God, from a different realm. Now, my courtion is this most of the Jews, they know Jews, and they as said Jews. And the only reason I see the
word I mean this is money. I don't know yours. He just said is that they did not accept you. Um, because what color of a man that you was when when when you lived on Deserve two thousand years ago? That's what I of course I'm asked. And because we know that the same Headrin counsel did not plot against you until you threw them out of the temple. You interrupted their money source. And then that's what they said. But let's get let's le's let's get in killed. Let's you know, let's
kill them because they they tried you for sedition. Um, But that's my question, is the one why did they plot your murder? And not the one called Satan? He was one called on his problems. Well we're talking about yes, yeah, No, there's a lot of stuff in what was stated Marvin, and it's not when you talk about the Jews. It was the reality was that the Jews were the people of the day, in the
place of the day. To say that they didn't accept me as not completely true, because if they didn't accept there be no Christianity doesn't mean that all of them did so. And as far as the devil, the devil had already been cast out of heaven. So when I was in heaven, yes, there was a point in time where Lucifer was there and then was cast out of heaven. And I'm trying to roll through some of your logic there. It wasn't just the color of my skin was the same as the people
around me. I was dark like them, I had hair like them, I was dark complected, and all of the attributes I had, they had. As a matter of fact, Scripture said that there wasn't anything special about my outward appearance. So going through why it was me that went through the process of dying and why didn't they go after Satan is because the manifestation is two different things. I came as a man. I came as a man to live and die and be resurrected to pay for all mankind and those who
choose to receive that salvation. It's not what the devil came to do. And putting that on the people of the time. The Jews, yes, had intense power, the Pharisees, the Sadducees. There was power there, but there was also a relationship with the actual power, which was the governing body, which was Rome. So Jews didn't arrest me, nor could they. The Romans could. The Romans didn't care at all about the religion, the religion of the matter of the day, because it didn't play into them.
They're polytheists. They have many gods and it didn't matter to them if there was one more, one less, or any of those things. They had to find a different kind of legality to arrest me. So that came in the form of referencing the King of the Jews. He says he's the King of the Jews. Now king means something different. At that time, that was a point of power, a seat of power, and in that situation came the fear that it was treason. So Rome didn't arrest me for
religious issues, nor would they nor would they arrest the devil himself. It wasn't about that focus. They had to find a legal focus, which would be treason. And even the Romans of the time, punchous pilot and the leaders thought that was weak, and that's why Poncha's pilot set up to allow the possibility of me not having to go to the cross by saying I will
give the choice to the people. They didn't want to deal with it, but they did make a case that if he claims to be the King of the Jews, what are you going to you got what are you guys going to do about it? Because the religious leaders of the day did not have the power to do anything to me, so they put it on the Romans and made it affect of treason, and in that point it allowed the Romans go, Okay, it's kind of a silly technicality because he's not trying to
overthrow Rome. Another thing tied into what we spoke about earlier about the politics creeping into the church. Even Rome at the time said, this guy's not that's not treason. He's not trying to overthrow anything. He's not trying to get into the body politic at all. He wants to focus on the things of God. So even though it was a technicality, they weren't down with it, and they were like, oh, we really don't want to have to do this. But once it comes out and that they're using the word
treason, they kind of have to react and do something. So they did, and they tried to give outs, and the outs didn't come to fruition. Everybody yelled for Barabbas. Barabbas is believed to have been a very political rebellious, politically rebellious individual, and it ended up that they let a guy who was truly rebellious towards Rome off and I ended up going to the Cross.
So I know that there was a lot of things wrapped up in their Marvin, but that's the reality as to what was going on, and it's just that I took the attention away religiously I took the attention away from the politicians. I took the attention away from just about everything in that circumstance, and in doing that, ruffled a lot of feathers, and a lot of people just wanted me to go away. Elaine, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hello Jesus, how are you? I am well, thank you
for your patience. Oh, no problem. I have a question, and my question is in Matthew twenty four, verse forty is human will be working in the fields, and one will be taken and the other one left behind. I'm just wondering where where the one is being taken to and how come the other one got left behind? Well, this is an interesting passage, so good eye, and there's different beliefs. You're like, I got one.
There are different interpretations here, and the landing on the widest belief would be this is suggesting the rapture and that different people are taken for different reasons, different people are left for different reasons. Those who believe in and I'm not going to get into the complications of the pre or mid tribulation that would they would understand that those taken in this passage would be taken in judgment by
Christ. Okay, so they're taking any judgment, but the judgment part seems to be throughout the entirety of it, in that its seeded in that context that there is a judgment here and some are taken and then some would be left, but they're also there, survived, continue to live on earth, and this would be done under the protection of God as it talks about in
Revelation twenty one through six. But there are some that and this is a possibility as well that goes back to Me sending out my angels together his elect in this case, my elect from Earth, and this would tie into Matthew twenty four thirty one. So there's a couple different ways to interpret it, but the whole of it does seem to be that it is about judgment. It might be the very act or description of what is often referred to as
the rapture as well. So that is one of those things that is contested and talked about, find out, you know, what's what's going on into what end, of course scripture itself is at that time there will be two men in the field. One will be taken and one will be left.
And so why has one taken and why has one left? Obviously becomes the concern as to who's you know, who's doing what, But it most certainly ties into judgment, getting into the tribulation and the rapture and the different beliefs as to PrePost in mid gets into a lot of a lot of other things. We've talked about it on the program. But it is also one of those things that there's evidence for kind of all beliefs, and at that point you kind of have to be as open as possible as to what God is
going to conclude. End time stuff is or eschatology is. It can be very difficult one. Yeah, you can study it, but it is about last things. It is about the things that come in the end times. And it also says in scripture the Nomaan shall know the day nor the hour, but maybe the season. You're basically focusing on the season there, and it gets quite complicated as to why people land where they land. But most certainly what's going on in Matthew twenty forty is that one is leaving by way
of God and one is staying under the protection of God. The most likely belief there is that it deals with the rapture or the judgment of the one that is being taken away. Margaret. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Good morning Jesus, Hi Margaret. My question is that my son is at the age to commence Catholic confirmation class and he does not want to do it. So my question is should I force him? Make him go? Of course as a strong word, but just make him go to these classes?
Okay? So what's he around? Thirteen or so? It's actually fifteen, okay, Well, it varies depending on the church. Sometimes, you know, if an adult is baptized then and converts, they would do it immediately. Some kids can do it as early as seven or so, but it really is dependent upon the church's practices. At fifteen, it's a tough sell. I get it. But the confirmation is of the individual, not of the family. So if he's the one going to confirm his faith and doesn't
want to go, then to force him doesn't change anything. If he goes and still doesn't want to confirm his faith, it's not like anything changes. He just goes. So have you talked to him? Does he believe? You know? He's gone, He's attended Catholic school his whole you know life, and he has some doubts he This class is at the church, um, you know, associated with the school he went to, and so it's filled with friends. Okay, And I guess my thought is if he I
guess my thought is if he doesn't do it now with his friends. And I know I can tell he is happy and excited to see his friends and do this, you know, get together with his friends, even if it's just for his class. But Mike concern is that he just won't. He will never do it if he doesn't do it now. So I mean, I understand what you're saying. Um, I feel I feel like in a way, I guess I'm I feel like I'm exchanging, Like I know that
he's not really mature enough, but it won't. But if he doesn't now, he'll be grateful later that he that I did make him do it. Maybe so, but it's it's you got to think of it another way. It's like a forced marriage. I mean, if he if he if God is a huge part of his life and he feels it's important to do, he'll do it. If he doesn't want to go right now, then going is not really going to change that. It's going to be based on,
you know, his feelings about the whole thing. So I'm more curious as to why he doesn't want to go as he said just other than he has said that he has some doubts about his face, and I've just kind of said, you know, that's natural. Yeah, I have doubts, and I I think he doesn't, like you said, it's a tough age. I think he just doesn't kind of want anybody to tell him what to you
know, where to be at a certain time. And it's it's a two year commitment, so that's almost like I feel like that's more his his concern, But maybe I should have a deeper conversation with him about it. I think that's important because on one hand, if he says he has doubts, well, you know, welcome to the club. And secondly, well, then all the more reason to study more ask those questions. Now's the time.
It's not only about confirmation. I mean it is, but it's also about if he went through it and at the end of it says I don't want to be confirmed. I have major issues. You might have to deal with that on the other side as well, because that's fair too. But to have. There's two different types of doubts, Margaret, and people always ask if doubting is bad. No, Doubting can be productive as long as it pushes and propels you rather to find answers. Now, if doubt just
gives you an excuse to sit and not ask questions, that's problematic. So if he has doubt, now is the time to ask, to ask questions, and to use it for that. But if you know, if if he's just going to use it as an excuse not to explore, that's not a good thing. I think it's as a parent to say I understand and your confirmation is going to be up to you as far as where you take that. But I would like you to at least start to be in there
to ask the questions of doubt. If you don't get the answers you're looking for, then we will talk about it. I don't want to force you, because it, you know, defeats the purpose of you going towards God on your own to know God and to understand God and why it's important to you and your fears. You know, my fear is at fifteen. Of course you're going to be wishy washy about it. But there may be a day that you were happy that you did it and that you got questions answered.
And so I don't want to push you into it, but I don't want, you know, laziness to keep you from an opportunity to learn more about your faith, the faith of our family, the faith of our extended family, and and and so I'm doing my parental duty to make sure that it's open to you and you understand what will take place. And um, you know, find maybe in your in your parish there's somebody who knows an apologist if the if the questions are really deep dealing with you know, concepts
of the church, concepts of God itself. You know, so if God himself rather that if if he comes up with questions, he has the right to have those questions answered. But hopefully this is a place where he can do that as well. But communication, I think is going to be key. He's got to give you a little better understanding, and likewise, you need to give them better understanding. Why you think it's important that he should at least start and ask the questions about his doubts. Are they about the
church or are they about the existence of God? Because you know, let's face it, there's a lot of issues throughout the years with the Catholic Church as well, and you need to know which are the issues he's struggling with, right right. That is very helpful, Thank you very much, I
hope. So let me know how it goes. And if there are some very deep questions that you think are just you know, a little little deeper, you can get a hold of me at our flagship station KFI in Los Angeles, and I'm happy to talk with him if if there's any deep questions that he might have. Oh, thank you very much. It's a hard thing to deal with young people in God right now, harder than probably ever before. So just be fair and listen to his concerns and pray about it.
I will all right up. God, bless you Margaret and a what a good mommy focused on her boy and not wanting to force him because we all know, let's face it, if you force good food down someone's throat, they'll vomit it up, and unfortunately that comes with a great price. And a lot of people reject faith. This show is a place as a home for that. A lot of people that have rejected God or feel that God has rejected them, have rejected the church, or felt like the church
has rejected them, people that have tough questions and demand reasonable answers. This show is not church, so that many times before, Church is a community. And although we have a community of listeners you know that call in and connect on the program, the reality is you need to have what is referred to as coin and ea that that communion, that connection with other people.
However, this place has always been a safe haven for people with tough questions that want good, strong answers, and for your as focused and on scripture as this program is and always will be. I know people want to figure out, oh, is this got a conservative bent a liberal bent. It doesn't have any bent. It focuses on God, focuses on Scripture. It focuses on what's important to God, not just what is important to man or what is important to Democrats or Republicans. God is not a god of America.
God is a God of the entirety of the universe, and to focus on those things often make people hear and see things differently. That's what we want to be. You get those same answers the same way, and we want to be a place where you're safe to ask anything, even if it's seated in even if it's seated in doubt. Let's squeeze in one more call. Mary. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hello Jesus, how are you? I am well married, what's going on? Thank you for getting
my call. I have a question. It's important for me, very important. Okay, I actually converted to Christianity. I am originally from Iran, and I converted to Christianity about twenty years ago. And my family, thank you. My family for the past three generations hadn't been subscribing to any religion. Okay, But however, when I wanted to, when I told him about my interests in conversion, and when I went through it, they were
very supportive. And when I came into Christianity, to be honest with you, I didn't find anything much different from what I was taught by my family with regard to ethicality or morality or added to a toward life. And the reason I'm saying that is I want you to understand my family is added to a toward life is very much Bible like. And so now my question is the only difference is that I appreciate and I understand salvation and they don't.
Oh where does that put us? If? Morality wise and ethicality wise, they are up there there Christianity teach us us, but they want to understand the concept of salvation. That's a great question, a great question. We're up against the clock, so I have to make this as brief as possible. And what it comes down to is that humans often understand morality and the golden rule, right. They understand do one to others as you wish them to do to you. Don't hurt anybody because you don't want to be hurt.
Don't steal from anybody because you don't want to be stolen from. All these things are basic and societal in understanding. For the most part. What's different to the Christian the believer about salvation is that is a comparison from person to person. People say, well, I don't murder, so I'm better than that person, or I don't steal, therefore I'm better than that person. But God says that is not my standard. My standard is perfection,
and you cannot live up to that. Ever, to try and say that you are compared to a person is easy, but comparing yourself to God, which is the ultimate standard is where it becomes a problem. So saying that you're being good is going to get you into heaven or is going to get you close to God is like saying comparing yourself not against a person, but
against God. So this the analogy often given is it's the equivalent of every human being standing on the southernmost part of Texas trying to throw coins to Canada and measuring who got the closest. And that is where salvation is needed. So salvation is needed in the fact that you cannot get close enough to perfection. So God so loved the world that he gave perfection in his only son to fulfill the areas that humans can't, so that humans will have a way
back to God in eternity in union with the Holy Father. And so that's what it comes down to be perfect, as your Father in heaven is perfect, you can't. So what you need is to be covered in the ultimate sacrifice of a perfect sacrificial lamb, which is Jesus Christ. And in that you are taken to that area you can't get to on your own, which is salvation, and to be with the Maker for eternity. Remember, more
importantly than everything going on in the world today are these simple words. I Am with you always, kf II on demand,
