Jesus Christ Show | Hour 2 [07/09]

You're listening to KFI on demand. I know that there are hot button issues in this world, especially in the United States, and that on the basic surface, you might go this is a major issue in religion. But when it comes to faith, I know there's a lot of misconception about the United States being a Christian nation, and that's not true when you go back and really look at it. The whole point was for people to be able to

to really worship the way they wanted to. Regardless, it's a Christian nation in the sense that the vast social parts of Christianity are celebrated like Christmas and Easter. However, yes, the Ten Commandments are a powerful tool in the justice system, but those are generally across the board in most systems because the pragmatism of it all. It's very pragmatic to have laws against murder and theft and the like, but don't confuse the Constitution with the Bible, or the

Bible with the Constitution. I think people get caught up in that, and the reality is that Christians won't do or shouldn't do, the things that are believed to be forbidden. And I get the importance. I get that you're taking the life in the view of the Christian with a baby, an unborn

baby. But that's a Christian belief, that's not a science belief. Scientists don't believe at the point of conception, that's a that's a who, And as long as that's there, there will be a distinct difference towards what is

believed in the courts versus what might be believed in Christianity. However, like I said, I think a lot of Christians get it wrong because they're focusing They're focusing on the emotion of it, which is obvious, but not even scripture, where Scripture is looking at it as someone coming home, and that if the soul is there at conception, that soul goes back to be with

God. But the soul that doesn't go back to be with God is the one that loses its faith or doesn't have faith and therefore never will go. So many false teachers desire to take children, women, men, take their

souls down a path that rejects the word of God. And it's interesting that you don't find people laying their bodies across false teachers, whether it be healers, whether it be health and wealth, doctrine, distributors, and with these things being in the actual church that has talked about over and over and over again in scripture, abortion is not And I think that when politics become more important than the faith itself, than the Word of God itself, it's a

problem regardless of what side of the aisle you're sitting on. And then again you get to the place where you're this is we talked about this earlier, where you're trying to push your views on non believers. The rest if Christians aren't doing it, and that's not to say that some don't, but if Christians aren't doing the things you don't like participating in prostitution because it's legal in some areas in the United States, and so are rugs that Christians wouldn't take,

then really it's not about those things. It's about because temptation is going to be everywhere. It's about the character of your faith, the strength of your faith, and the fact that you should be bringing new people into the fold, and in doing that there's power. You're not called to change laws

as a believer, you're called to change hearts. And I think sometimes people get caught up in the politics because it's easier to rant and rave about that that actually change a heart, actually working in tandem with the Holy Spirit to connect with somebody to give them peace and comfort in a way that they want to ask you about the hope that lies within you, and that believers don't want to do that anymore. They get into politics and start yelling to change

these laws rather than getting more believers that won't participate in those laws. Because just because something's legal or illegal in the United States doesn't determine whether the believers should do it or not. I e. Prostitution is legal, doesn't mean you get a pass when you're in Nevada. So it's not about the laws. To the believer. Should be about the change of heart. It should be about the focusing on the things of God, and that takes work from

you to be a leader an example. The laws will follow if people don't care for it. Anyways, you get less of those things you're concerned about if the believer has their head on straight. But you can't use scripture to try and teach somebody who doesn't believe in scripture. It just doesn't match. It's not their law, it's your law, so you shouldn't do it. But you can't keep others from doing it. If it's legal in the United States, you can just hope to change their heart by being a great example.

Bill, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Good morning. Hi there, How can I help you. Yeah, there's a number of scriptures in the Bible they talk about predetermination, and yet it's pretty earlier also that we have free choice. Correct. So I've been trying to reconcile those two and how can they say we are predetermined in one burst, but then say we have free will and choices another. And I came up with an analogy I just wanted to share and see if I mean, we're a close right,

God stands out outside of time. God created time, and that's one of the first things I had to think of, And me being a time based creature, I really have no idea what that means. But I was thinking about one of my granddaughters and when she was between the ages of four and six, I knew her really well. And if we were sitting in the living room and she kind of snuck out of the living room into the kitchen, all I had to do is wait for about one minute and I could

catch her with her hands in the cookie jar. That didn't mean I predetermined her to do that. I just meant I knew her that well. And then I started thinking, well, if I knew her that well as a human, and God knows everything, and God knows me better that I know myself, he knows what choices I'm going to make in those moments. But just like me and my granddaughter, that does not predetermine her. That just says I know her that well, and God knows me better than I know

myself, and he is omniscient. And so I came up that kind of an idea on how to reconcile the two things that are we predetermined to a certain extent. I'd say, yes, but do we have free will? We definitely have free will? And then God stands outside of time, and he knows me that well, He's not predetermining me. He just knows what I'm going to do ahead of time, because if we are are predetermined, how can we be judged by something that we are programmed to do? Yeah,

and I'd like to give me some more clarity on that. Well, I think is as much as all analogies break down at some point. But I think that that is a good way to start understanding it is knowing someone or knowing those things. And it says that God has known us since the beginning. John six forty four says, no one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up on the last day. So drawing him, why would you draw someone to you

if they were already predetermined, predestined. So there are many that have to be taken in the whole of it all, but there is a process of understanding, and more so that one there would be no trip to the cross unless it was known that at least some would would follow. So it's going to be predetermined that people would follow. And there's many verses that talk about

that connected to the foreknowledge Romans eight twenty nine. For those whom he four knew, he also predestined to be confirmed in the image of his son in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers, So that four knew and that predestined, and those types of words the actual translation of pro rizzo, which is a Greek word meaning determined beforehand, ordaining that all these scenes

kind of play into it. But it is partly about being outside of time, as you pointed out, and us being in time here right, having to deal with time and the reality that free will and predestination can go hand in hand. Similarly to let's say you walk into a place that has a pie, place that has fifty pies, it is predetermined. Your choice is predetermined, meaning that your choices, the options you have is predetermined. But if you choose apple pie or pumpkin pie, it's still free will, but

the choices at hand are predetermined because out of those fifty pies. So it's a it's a combination of God knowing being outside of time, and God determining the possibilities of the outcome, preserving the free will and preserving the predestination. Liz, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Thanks Jesus. So, my question is my husband passed recently and UM, he little lapsed Chatholic, he

did believe in God, Um, he did believe in you. And UM, my question is he died suddenly and he had things that were unresolved, where he had um separations from family members that he hadn't resolved and issues like that. Um, he's been ill for a while and I do think that affected him somewhat with not settling them and I want to know, just still go to heaven even though those issues were never settled. Is it's it's just something where because of his belief in you, he would still go to heaven

even though he hadn't made everything right before he left. So there was some family discord just and that wasn't that it was still being talked about. Are still up in the air, but nothing ever right? Okay, So it was still disrupted conversations. Um, what kind of things were unhealed? Oh it's um, just hop Um, how do I want to it was? It was issues that were left over from when his mom passed. He was for um caregiver. UM, and a couple of the family remembers were not

happy. There were hard words spoken. I see, yeah, and um was it over money in the estate or what? Um it was some over that, some over and not so much. Yeah it would have been dis yeah, um just in how she was taken care of. Um. Um he did everything he could. I mean I watched him. He Uh, she did everything he could. He made sure she was in good facilities. Um. They just felt you know that they would have done things different. Yeah, they this happens a lot, and it's like, well where then

where were you? Yeah, no, I this happens so often and we get calls upon this that I'm blown away that still to this day, you

really it ends up going towards the money. Regardless of what people say that they come up and say, well, I wouldn't have done it that way, or you know, I didn't like this, or sometimes the one that is doing the caregiving often is the one that is left more or noted differently, And then everybody comes and says, well, I don't know why I didn't like the way they did this, or that it's just it's family stupidity, quite honestly, and that it's funny that the people that judge are nine

out of ten times the one that the ones that did nothing for the parents. So I get all of that. Now, your main question, he died suddenly and didn't make peace with his family. That's fine, that happens. They're just as much a part of that, and now they should be making peace. And also that based on his faith and his belief in God, that there is no such things. Which thing is someone dying subtly or

suddenly in God's world? God knows everything that's coming on, and a minute can be as a year to God, and so when someone passes, there's plenty of connection and time that God has with that person, and I wouldn't worry about him, Liz at all. It's sad that the circumstance went the way it did and that the family members pushed so so much back, and

they're you know, the they have aside to the story as well. But ultimately, I hear this time and time again that people, just in their family, they do horrible things afterwards when someone dies, and for whatever reason, the person who actually gives up their time to be with the parent who is ill always gets the brunt of it. And a lot of it comes from the shame that the other siblings feel by not standing up and being a

part of the health and the care of their parent. They're also the ones that give up excuses after excuses, being busy with work, whatever it might be that shows that they just you know, ultimately didn't do what they should have done, and then they take it out on the person who does it. And it's not easy. Those gigs are not easy. It is very difficult to take care of a parent when they're ill, and if the family comes together to take care of it together is the best way to do it.

But what ends up happening is some family are selfish and just kind of look the other way and go, oh, well, it's getting done, and it's unfortunate, you know. And often it's, strangely enough, it's the sibling who has had difficulty with a parent, you know, like maybe they were slightly estranged, or they had argued a lot or never clicked in their relationship, and that individual is the one that ends up taking care of

them in their time of need. It's it's a very strange setup the way it seems to work in many cases, because there's ultimately always somebody that steps up to do it. Then they're judged by every single person in the family, and then if Heaven forbid, there's more given, or often sometimes the house is given to the person who took care of them, and that's when everybody comes out and goes, you didn't even do that great of a job. You shouldn't get this. You brainwashed mom or dad to giving you all

this, and it just gets ugly and it's incredibly unfortunate. So in life that's over now, but when you're dealing with it, it's very harsh and very heavy. I wouldn't worry about your husband and his path to God. It has nothing to do with that specific situation whatsoever. Jeff, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hey, welcome, Thanks for having I call. Yeah, I bet I'm the first caller that actually tuned into you while I was in the shower. I have a blue tooth speaker and I was just

spinning the dial and then I pumped into your station. I've never listened to you before, but I go, Hey, what the heck, I'll take a shower and listen. See what's going on. Well, I appreciate you taking the time to listen and to call. Believe it or not, the show has been on locally and now nationally for over twenty years, so welcome. Well, it only took me twenty years to catch that, or vice versa. Well, how can I help you, Jeff? Well, okay,

So I'm I'm kind of on the fence with believing in Christ. I believe in God. I'm not sure who God is exposed to a number of different religions, primarily based on girlfriends with different religions. So yes, that's often it happens. You are not alone there, Jeff, Okay, So, and I don't believe in evolution, so that would kind of put me

in the fence I should be believing in Christ. But anyway, my question is with all the information documented with estraterrestrial beings and now the government releasing a lot of information about you know, they've got seized crash spacecraft, and you know, I think there's no question in anybody's mind that there's beings outside our universe or outside of our planet. And so my question is, does God or Jews are they just like focused on Earth, our galaxy or the whole

entire universe. I just can't get my fingers around that grasp around that. Well, yes, it would have to be all or nothing in this case, because of course, the if God created everything, including the universe, and that would that would be everything. Now, I may disagree a little

bit with what you believe that has been found and documented. There's a lot of information coming out about what we're commonly known as UFOs unidentified flying objects, and now the UAE or whatever they you want to call them, there has still been no record of an actual extra extraterrestrial coming to the Earth and having contact other than people's individual stories anecdotally, So it's not like there have there Just recently the other day there were some space garbage, space stuff that came

to the Earth and there were some of the remnants were spheres, and one of them looked like it was an actual design of the Earth sphere of the Earth. In the crafted and metal. There's different things that are found and the understanding of what they are is left to the scientists that are poking around and seeing what the material is and if it is actually an image of intelligence, meaning you know, like finding a book rather than something that looks like

part of an alphabet. One can be just kind of there and then the other one a book. It just screams intelligence. There's no reason, no other explanation for it. So as far as there being other planets and other universe and the like, yes, we continue to see more and more, further and further and learn more and more in the process. However, there still has not been found life or similar life to what you would define as life here on the planet. And that's not just small organisms, that is

humans. So in scripture, when it talks about salvation, you have to put this into the entirety of the conversation with Christianity and salvation. So either there is a planet somewhere with life that didn't send that had the same option in the garden, or the concept of the garden that didn't sin and therefore does not need salvation, or that there they are somehow seen in a way that they don't need the power of Christ. Because here's the problem. In

scripture. I say many times that I was not here to save the angels or anyone else. I came as a human to save humans. But it's always speaking about this one planet. So there would be a lot of questions that would have to be answered because there is nothing that says there is anybody else. There is talk about being of different tribes or things of that nature,

but that's referring to the Jews and the Gentiles. But there's nothing in there that really gives leeway to this Jesus, this God creating salvation for any other place. It's just not in there. So it could be complicated or people are missing something here on Earth in scripture. But it could be very complicated if there was life on another planet, because everything that is talked about in Scripture generates from the Earth and from the heavens, so that's going to

be a problem when trying to shift over. My producer, Neil has said many times that if there is life on another planet and they don't have some information that ties into scripture somehow, it could be highly problematic, even making someone like him walk away from the faith. So there's a lot tied up in that very concept. But at this point, I know there's a lot of chatter, but it doesn't mean that people have had actual contact other than

you know, their word that they were probed or something like that. But there is no aliens that have ever come that we have friends that have ever sat down and talked with power brokers or political people or anything like that. So there's much more to wait on. I suppose kf I am six forty on demand