This is a podcast from WOOR the Jesse Kelly Shaw. Let's have some fun on a Wednesday. It's hump Day and I am so unreasonably excited for tonight show for a couple different reasons. We are going to discuss. Yes, the beginning of the end of the Ukraine Russia war Putins involves Zolensky's upset, Euroup's upset, everyone on the left supset. Trump's trying to work out a dal also scolding Zelensky. There's so much to talk about when it comes to
that war. Some of it may offend you a morning you right now, We're gonna have a hard talk tonight. I'll get to that in a moment that's coming. Democrats are so lost. They're now stuck running sob stories about fired federal workers nobody cares about. There's a terrible idea coming out of this administration about sending some money back to the American people. I'll make everyone mad when I discuss that the budget process is coming. That's gonna be
horrific emails. All that, so much more coming up tonight on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Now, let's talk because this is obviously going to eventually get to Russia, Ukraine. Us Zelensky. Trump putin that if this is going to get there, that's where we're going. But let's talk about life black and white in gray. If you will, the United States of America, if you had to, if you had to choose our finest moment, our finest accomplishment, what would it be, just off the top of your head,
real quick, what would it be? You probably said World War Two? And oh you did, Chris, and Chris did. That's a basic look even if you didn't, maybe you didn't. If you and asked one hundred people with them all random people, not right, left, middle, you asked them what was America's finest hour? What was America's biggest accomplishment? They will say World War Two? And it's I'm not saying
you're wrong, keep in mind, but it's understandable. So let's talk about why World War Two in Americans' minds is our finest hour, the greatest generation, the greatest moment, because well, there's a lot of reasons for it, but one of the main reasons was this. We took on not one, but two in defensively, indefensively evil empires, and we won and we smashed those empires to dust, removed them completely to power, and got them away from the rest of
the world. We look at ourselves as world saviors for World War two, and I'm not saying we're necessarily wrong about that at all. I'm not saying we're wrong about it. That Okay, that's good. We're probably all together so far. Now Japan, we'll stick with Japan. Germany, the same thing applies, but we'll stick with Japan for now. The strategic bombing campaign of Japan. Did you know, Look, we look back on it now and I realized it's still debated. Should
we have dropped the atom bomb? All those other things? But did you know that bombing Japanese cities, which we bomb virtually all of them. Everyone knows about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we reduced all of them to dust. We burned Tokyo to the ground, burned it down, We fire bombed it, nay, pommed it, burned it to the ground. Did you know that even at the time, it was a cause of great debate inside American politics, inside the American military. People
didn't feel comfortable. A lot of people didn't feel comfortable. Do I bomb this city, that this factory's in the city, but there's a neighborhood, right, and nothing's accurate. Women and children will die. Should we do it? Yeah, we have to do it. No, we shouldn't do it. But why were we even having this discussion Because the United States of America decided. It decided that unconditional surrender. You've heard that term many times before in your life. Unconditional surrender
was how the war with Japan must end. Unconditional surrender. You don't get to come and bring terms. You don't get to say anything. You will have no say whatsoever in your future or the future of Japan. You will come before me, the United States of America. You will prostrate yourself before me, and you will stand there at my mercy, and I will tell you how everything is going to go, and you have no say. That's what
unconditional surrender is. And after we pound it Japan to powder, including a double dose of an atom bomb, Japan finally relented. I'm not doing a revisionist history of World War two. I'm not even criticizing any of that. But that was how World War two ended. That's how we came to an unconditional surrender. How in the world do you get a people with strong morale like the Japanese? How do you get them to throw themselves at your feet? You
incinerate a million or two of them. Eventually you kill enough people, cause enough starvation and death, you will get somebody to surrender eventually. Now we're not doing a World War two history talk here. This is about today. This is very, very very much about today. Because here's the thing. Remember when I just asked you what was our finest moment, and you probably said World War two. If you didn't, your ten buddies did WLD War two, World War two.
We love World War two because of what we accomplished as a country, and we should be proud of that. We should be proud of that, and as part of that, because of our reverence, our reverence. Look, I just I've been talking World War two all week. I'm the same. I'm not separating myself from it. Our reverence for World War II, America, the heroism are manufacturing the everything because of our reverence for World War Two, how it was
fought and how we ended it. Unconditional surrender has become lumped in with how Americans think wars are supposed to be fought, and frankly, how they've always been fought. No matter who you are fighting, whether you're fighting Al Qaeda, whether you're fighting the Russians, the Chaikams, whether you're fighting Japan, Germany, but that whoever you happen to be fighting now the drug cartel wars are coming no matter who you are fighting. I'm an American, and as an American, the only thing
I will accept this unconditional surrender. After all, that's what we did in World War Two. Some people think about things, but we have to always step back and get some perspective. One most wars, almost every war in the history of the world, has ended with a negotiated peace, not unconditional surrender. A negotiated peace where one side, even the winning side, gets together with the losing side and look, is the
losing side gonna give some things up? You bet, you lost, of course, but the losing side doesn't have to give up everything. In fact, it's rarely even asked for. Hey, you're gonna give up some of this territory. You're gonna have to give us this I'm gonna need. Look, if we're going historically, I'm gonna need some hostages so your daughter is gonna come live with me in the castle in case you get out of line. But look, we
came to a negotiating, negotiated surrender. Now we we don't like to speak like this because it involves negotiating with people who have done wrong and who may have even wronged us, and because war is so terrible. There's so
much raw emotion around it. If you've been involved in it, if you've seen it, if you've smelled it, if you've heard it, the blood and the guts, and the tears and the loss and the misery, and when you have suffered things like that at the hands of someone else, another country, another tribe, whatever it may be, it sounds awful to think that you might have to go sit down at a negotiating table with them and give them things, allow them to have things. No, you killed my friend,
you bombed my town, my mom is gone. You don't get anything ever. War without end. But that's your emotion talking, and that is not how wars have ended, even the most horrible, drawn out, bloody wars, whether it was with sticks and stones, bows and arrows, swords and shields, or whether it's with bombs, bullets, machine guns in the like
the most terrible, agonizing, awful. Wars generally end where both sides realize, Hey, people are dying, this is expensive, this is awful in the interest of both of our countries, Let's sit down, begin negotiations, and hash out a negotiated peace. And that is a hard thing to swallow for a lot of people, particularly a lot of Americans, who again bring back our reverence for World War Two. No Hitler, you will leave, No Japan, get down before me and surrender.
We take that into every war now. But that's not generally how the world works, and that's not how war works, and historically that's not how things end. They don't end that way. We'll talk a lot more about this, and just a moment before I talk about that, I hope things don't end for you in a dark parking lot someday with a bad man trying to murder you. I hope things don't end for your wife like that. She
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Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Now, speaking of World War two and Americans framing everything around that, we've also completely rewritten the history of World War two, completely rewritten. We've sent it out. The things we don't like left in the things we do. Listen to this complete moron. This is a United States Senator Chris Van hollanlizadibs right now.
But what they did in Munich with.
Just a response, just to set this up. This is in response to Trump saying, yeah, look, hey, Zelenski's gonna have to give up some things and some minerals to us for all the money we spent and things like that. He owes us that money. We didn't just give him all that stuff. And this is what a United States senator says right now.
But what they did in Munich with President Zelenski was primarily to bully them, right The Secretary of Treasury handed him a piece of paper that essentially required Ukraine to hand over about fifty percent of its mineral reserves to the Night States simply in payment of the support that we've already given, which we've given because they were a
democratic country attacked by Putin and the Russian forces. I mean, can you imagine FDR in the middle of World War Two saying to Churchill, you know, you know, we're not going to continue to help you until you turn over half of your coal and mineral reserves.
Do you have any idea how much of the British Empire was handed to the United States of America Because of the American len lease program. Are Americans so dumbed down now about the basic facts of history that we think we were just handing Britain a bunch of equipment to fight the war without payment at all. Did you know that the British Empire had to hand to US bases all over the world that were formerly theirs? No, no, no, no, no,
I know. The present United States of America is run by a bunch of morons who believe the United States of America only exists to enrich themselves, and so they can grab gobs of American gold and throw it around the world wherever they so please. But that is not how nations are run. When you get involved helping somebody, whether they're a friend or not, they have to return the favor in some way. And that's exactly how it was done during World War II. Oh Churchill, you're in
some trouble. You need some help? Wow, that sucks. I feel bad. We will help you. What are you going to give me? That's how things are done, That's how it's always been done. But again, World War two has so twisted the minds of Americans who will only look at everything through that lens that we don't acknowledge the way the world actually works. Wars end with negotiated peace, and we have. And this is totally understandable because I'm
the same way. We have this Marvel movie way of looking at almost every everything, where the good guy always wins and the bad guy always loses, and the good guy will ride off into the sunset with the girl and a nice house, and the bad guy will be vanquished forever. That's how we want the world to work, because we want the good guy to win, and we don't want the bad guy to have a single thing that's not what we like. We want black and white. But in the real world, Ironman sits down at a
negotiating table with Thanos and they work something out. I know that's crazy. I know it sounds unpalatable. I don't want to have to work with bad guys. But life is working with bad guys. I work with Chris every single day. Remember that. So what's happening right now, what's happening right now is well, I do think it would be helpful to do a little bit of background, just very brief, because I know, you know most of this, the United States of America engineered a coup in Ukraine
in twenty fourteen. Joe Biden was involved in that coup. We did. This is your opinion on it is not important to me at all. We did. Everyone knows that. It's a documented fact. We ousted their government and replaced it with the government we wanted. Obviously, you don't have to think very hard about why we did that. We got a lot of things for that worked out well for Hunter Biden, didn't it. But anyway, that aside, we ousted their government and now we have what they currently have,
one of the most corrupt countries on the planet. Okay, fine, Russia, Ukraine. Russia was mad about that whole thing. I should note the coup that we engineered in twenty fourteen. Putin was very very angry about the whole thing for a variety of reasons. Ukraine is rough around the edges. Putin is rough around the edges, to put it, mildly bad human being. Not defending Putin. Putin decides he's going to invade Ukraine because the historically Russian parts of Ukraine, and I don't
even know if I'm comfortable saying that. It's just an area where lines are always redrawn. Again, negotiated. Pieces have happened a million times in this area. We'll fight about this, and then you're gonna have to give me that. But we'll fight about this, then you'll give me that. There's a tradition, you know, traditionally Russian speaking areas of Ukraine. Putin said, these are my people. I want them under
my umbrella. Putin launches an invasion. That this was three years ago and for three years these two sides, I don't really care for either of them, to be honest with you, have lobbed artillery rounds and drones at each other, and they've butchered hundreds of thousands of men in their own countries. A terrible, terrible, terrible affair. Every part of it has been awful. If you've seen any of the video about it, it's awful. World War one, World War II levels of awful. It's just so far from us.
It doesn't have that personal touch, if you will. Now the Biden administration, in fact, no pause on that. We'll get to the Biden administration in a moment. Before we get to that, history can be it could be hard to get into unless you get the right teacher. I'll put it to you that way. You know, I never liked history sixth grade. I have the right teacher walk in the classroom and tell me history is about stories. And he told me stories that made history come alive
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Ukraine stuff and the lead up into it. And now Joe Biden gets elected, Joe Biden gets elected, and I'm actually not gonna I'm not gonna do a bunch of Joe Biden corruption CIA stuff because that doesn't matter. But what does matter right now is during the four years of the Joe Biden presidency, Ukraine had an open checkbook of American money. They did, and Zolensky he embraced it.
Obviously he's over here addressing Congress. We have senator after senator, including useless Barnacle United States Senator John Cornyn from the state of the Texas who needs to be tech primary next year. We have all these senators just doing photo ops with them, American actors going over there. We even sent Randy Weingarden, communist John Denver over to over to Ukraine to do a photo op. It became, it became
the dejure of the day. Zelensky. Look how great Zelensky is. Zelensky, you could have whatever you want, all the bombs bullets, just take it. And remember, Mitch McConnell got it on this too. It was complete uniparty swamp nonsense. Mitch McConnell's standing in front of the microphone telling everyone it's the most important thing in the world. Joe Biden, who apparently was unable to read pull numbers, routinely would get up and brag about all the money and equipment we were
sending over there. A complete one way of thinking. And Zelensky loved loved it obviously. See, we bankrolled four years of butchery, well, three years of butchery. We bankrolled it. We paid for all of it. We held them up just enough, not so they could win, but so they could stand up and never fall. In an entire generation of Ukrainians and Russians, they're now gone. Hundreds of thousands of lives gone. Butchery. Okay, I got all that. That's
what happened. Now Trump starts to run for office. Trump is a foreign policy president, and he's really really good at it. Even Trump one point zero, which you know I had a lot of problems with with COVID and whatnot. Even Trump one point zero was an outstanding foreign policy president. Why is that Donald Trump spent his entire life flying
around the globe and negotiating deals with powerful men. That's why Donald Trump understands when you walk in a room with the Chinese diplomat, with the German diplomat, with this he understands exactly how to negotiate things. Bottom line, he's really good at it. He's really good at foreign policy. Trump starts running for office and says, this Russia Ukraine stuff has to end, it has to end, it must end. And Zelensky, after Trump's election, starts to chafe against Trump,
starts to chafe enough that he's saying things publicly against Trump. Now, keep in mind, the Russia Ukraine War without America ends two and a half years ago. It's been going on what three years, two and a half years ago. That war's over without us. If that, we are the Russia Ukraine War, Our equipment, our stuff has kept Ukraine up. We've given more than all of Europe combined. It is all our stuff. It's our stuff. Selensky loved that program.
Remember when he flew over here and was signing American artillery shells that were coming his way. American politicians ha, Lensky ha. Well, Trump says, hey, it's got to stop, now, the butcher, He's got to stop. So Zelensky starts bad mouthing Trump said that he is living in a disinformation era. That just starts dogging Trump. So that obviously is not smart it was so not smart. Jd Vance came out and told Zelenski stop bad mouthing Trump, please, we're negotiating
a piece here, We're negotiating a piece. But you know how Trump is Zelenski a little more on publicly dogged on Trump, and well, you know that's gonna go for Well.
We have equation where we haven't had elections in Ukraine, where we have martial law essentially marshal law in Ukraine, where the leader in Ukraine, I mean, I hate to say it, but he's down at four percent approval rating, and where a country has been blown to smithereens you got most of the cities are laying on their sides, the buildings that collapsed. It looks like a massive demolition site.
And yeah, I would say that, you know, when they want a seat at the table, you could say that people have to wouldn't the people of Ukraine have to say, like, you know, it's been a long time since we've had an election. That's not a Russia thing, that's something coming from me and coming from many other countries also.
And an election. Let's just focus on that point really quickly. Here's a headline from Newsweek. I'm not even kidding Zelensky could be ousted as Trump demands a Ukraine election, Well, shouldn't the people of Ukraine. Shouldn't they get some, say, some seat at the table because they're the ones dying. Maybe they're done with all this, Maybe they're finished with it. But the guy who's currently in charge don't allow elections, and so we have no idea. All we know is
what Zelensky's will is. We know what the European will is, we know what the American lefts will is. We know about Lindsey Grahams. We know all these things. But what we don't know is what the poor people on the ground think about the butchery that has taken place in that country for the last three years. We don't know because they won't allow an election. Now, this is not about being pro Russia or anything like that. Frankly, I don't really care for Russia, and I definitely don't care
for Putin. I don't care for Zelensky either. I don't care for these types of dictators. I don't they're both dictators, both of them. Putin doesn't allow elections either. He's a dirt ball too. But the point of all this is when we look at things like this, Russia, the bigger country, invaded the smaller country. We have this old World War two Marvel movie way of thinking, where the United States of America can and must step in fight this war,
vanquish the enemy with unconditional surrender. And that's the only way this should end. And anything else is caving to Hitler. But that's not how wars generally end. One side the loser. As of right now, that's not even debatable. That's Ukraine one side the loser. Yes, they have to give some things up. No, they should not be made to give
everything up. That's not how it works. But they because they lack leverage, they're the ones who have to sit at the table and they have well you give up this, give up that. And historically country he's like America, We've done this many times. We tend to mediate these meetings where we go in and we ensure that Russia doesn't take more than they should take. We ensure Ukraine is treated humanely. We don't want Ukrainians to be Russian slaves after this. But this is the only way this ends.
And so look, there's a chance because Zelensky is he's begging the Europeans. The Europeans are furious about this ending. I guess there's a chance, maybe these negotiations fail, Maybe we wash our hands of it because Trump will at some point in time. Maybe Zolenski thinks just Ukraine and the Europeans are going to take on the Russian bear. And if that's the case, you know what, I actually bless them to it. I would disagree with the posy, but not my circus, not my monkey. Go have a
good time. But it is time for our involvement in this to end, and I for one, am glad we are trying to end it peacefully with a negotiation. Everyone going through a divorce says things. She's not getting the car, she's not getting my dog, she's not getting to find China. Everybody I've ever had who's ever gotten a divorce has said these things to me. She's not getting she's not getting my DVD set. And she walks away with the DVD set every time, and she says the same things
ladies said to say, he's not getting it. He's walking away with some things you love every time. It's ugly. We don't like it. It's how it works, it's how life is life's ugly sometimes. All right. Speaking of ugly, let's talk about the employment situation in this country. It's ugly. It's hard. I sympathize. If you're looking for help, believe it. Look what I deal with. I sympathize. It's hard to find good help. You need to go to ZipRecruiter. You
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That next employee who's not Chris waiting for you, go find him. We'll be back feeling a little stocky. Follow like and subscribe at Jesse Kelly's show. Speaking of taking care of business. I will get to the emails in a moment. Remember you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We will make fun of democrats shortly we'll talk about this idea about sending us all checks and stuff like that. Just a couple more points really quickly. On the Russia Ukraine. Think I'm gonna move
on one. No more of our money, no more of our bombs, no more of our bullets, no more of our money. If they if they want to keep fighting. If Russia, Ukraine and Europe, if they want to keep fighting, bless them to it. I love the United States of America under Trump is trying to negotiate an end to the whole thing, so the butcher he can stop. If that is rebuffed, then have a nice war. We will watch it on YouTube. All that said, I think a lot of this is bluster. Remember everyone's staking out a
negotiating position right now. No, I'll never end. No, I won't give up these minerals. No. People like to stake out these positions. It's part of negotiation. We've talked about this before. But Ukraine and Europe, who's going to go fight that war for Europe? Europe has facilitated an invasion of their country by foreign barbarians. That even makes what
Joe Biden did look weak look small by comparison. The only people who would sign up to go fight in Europe's wars would be the native Europeans who would be you know, Germans fighting for Germany, the French fighting for fighting for France, things like that. So you're what, You're going to sign up to go fight for Ukraine against Russia and you're going to leave the eighty five Syrian refugees in town with your wife? Nah? I don't think so.
Speaking of Europe, who's going to fund it? People do understand that we the United States of America, we fund all of Europe's defense. The reason Europe was able to turn into a quasi socialist state with free this and free that, and free this and free that is because they never had to invest in a military that could rebuff Russia. Well, if you're going to take him on pal, guess what all those lovely social programs you used to bribe this citizenry to get you elected, those are gonna
have to go bye bye. I do believe with all the bluster we see from Putin and Zelensky in Europe, and I do believe the United States of America Trump specifically, will be able to end this thing simply because we have the most leverage negotiations are all about leverage. Putin has some leverage because A he has a bunch of nuclear weapons. B. He currently holds some territory that used to be Ukraines. That gives him leverage. He holds it, Ukraine can't seem to get him out of it. That
gives him leverage. The United States of America has the most leverage by a mile, because we've funded the entire thing. We can continue funding, and we can end it. We have all the leverage in the world. Ukraine like it or not. Maybe you've got yourself wrapped in a Ukrainian blanky right now, and that's fine. No, not to dogging on you at all. Ukraine has no leverage at all. None. They don't have the military to repel Russia, they don't have the funds to keep things going. They don't have
any leverage at all. Zelensky has been forced for three years to come grovel at the feet of American politicians in order to keep the thing going. The gravy train has to stop. The war must end. I believe it will in the end. But again, if Europe and Ukraine want to go, have a good time, enjoy it, let me know how the Russian winner works out for you. Hey, Im Jesse, it's decent emails. I enjoyed the show. Jesse mentioned on the air that we had wargamed Russia. I'm
not questioning his accuracy. I would just like to know the source. Keep up the good work. Well, we have wargamed Russia. But that's not what I said. We have wargamed China. And this was when I was going off on a rant about American manufacturing and logistics. And oh, by the way, speaking of logistics, halfway through next hour, we have one of these shipping logistics guys who's going to come on and nerd out on some of that stuff.
So stay with me there. But back to what I was saying, the war with China, if there is a coming war with China, it will be really it'll be fought over there because that's where China is trying They're trying to lock down their control of that area. It's not only taime On, it's the Philippines. I s woke up this morning there was another Chinese naval vessel harassing people. China is trying to lock in their sphere of influence.
So if we were to actually get into a spicy conflict with China, God forbid, because it would be horrible. It would have to be fought over there. They're not coming here. They don't need to come here. They already own the American media in Hollywood and half our politicians. But setting that aside, it would have to be fought over there. And modern wars if you're to believe the experts people I trust act real experts, not the moronj
see on television. If you're to believe real experts, modern wars, they're going to be Missile wars. Kind of scary to think about, isn't it, Because it means you can be touched from anywhere, especially now that China has hypersonic missiles. Russia has hypersonic missiles. We are rapidly developed and have probably already developed hypersonic missiles. That means they can hit all of you wherever you're sitting right now listening to the sound of my voice, Saudi Arabia, Texas, Germany. I
don't care where it is. You can have a missile land in your lap too. It's scary. It puts all of us on the battlefield and missiles a missile war. It makes traditional ways of thinking it can make them obsolete. We were just talking World War Two at the beginning of this hour. One of the things I love the most that fills me with pride about World War Two is sorry my fellow Marine Corps brothers, the United States in World War Two. I talk about them lovingly all
the time. It's just awesome, this massive, powerful fleet projecting American power all over the world. Well, why would you pay five hundred billion dollars for an aircraft carrier when one Chinese missile can send it to the bottom. A missile war changes things back to what we were discussing war games with China. It's not like we've only fought one. We're trying to figure out how would it go. The problem is not our navy. The problem is not our
air Force, our army. It would never be the Marine Corps, of course, Seper five. The problem is logistics. Missiles. We don't have enough, we don't make enough. Let's say China invades Taiwan or the Philippines or something like that, and we decide we want to go tangle with them. We run out of missiles in a week. If they have plenty of missiles sweeping our navy off the seas and we don't have missiles to counter their missiles. Well, war over.
I don't care how many aircraft carriers you have. War over. It's over. That is the problem. This has been a podcast from wor