Tim Walz and his many trips to China

brain doesn't work that way. People talk to me during these things, and then I can't hear what's being said, and I want to sit and nerd out. So I'm gonna watch with the wife and my two sons, and even they will talk too much, but I can't exactly tell them not to ask questions. I'm trying to get them interested. But I'll be watching then. Oh I should notpe. We don't have to wait until tomorrow night. If you want to watch my reaction to it, I am going to do a live on YouTube right after it's over.

It's gonna be fast, five ten minutes, just quick reaction. So whenever the debate is over, YouTube dot Com slash Jesse Kelly DC, you'll see me on there anyway. I'll go do a lit. But the Walls Advance debate is tonight. Now. One thing I don't want to overseell is the importance of it. I don't want to undersell the importance of it either, but I don't want to oversell the importance of it. Will political people be watching, Yes, Will just

norms and normas be watching? Yeah, of course they will. Yeah, they will. Are they going to watch for a long time? No. Historically the VP debates have not been massive game changers one way or the other, whether we win them or lose them. We all remember that useless loser Paul Ry and getting his teeth kicked in by Joe Biden in a debate, you know. But other than things like that, they don't tend to stand out for us. But it matters to me for a variety of reasons. It probably

matters to you for a variety of reasons. One, I'm a political nerd. I understand the stakes of the game. You're a political nerd. You understand the stakes we're dealing with here, and the stakes are high. Here's a headline, the Great Walls of China, oversight. That would be House oversight, demands, d HS documents on dem VP nominate nominees, ties to the CCP. You see Tim Walls brags. He probably over exaggerated this now, but he brags that he's been to

China thirty times. The career teacher, the career government employee has been to China thirty times. That's before we get to the debate. Let's discuss that for a moment. Have you been anywhere thirty times? I have never been anywhere outside of Red Lobster thirty times in my entire life. I'm talking about foreign countries nowhere even close to that. Maybe Mexico. I think I've been to four or five times. And it's by far the leader. Yeah, it's good point, Chris,

and we're like one hundred miles away from it. It's right next door. And I've been four or five times in my life. Who goes to China thirty times? Okay, Now, let's just set aside the horrible suspiciousness of that. You understand how intelligence works, how black mail works. It's not just something that happens in the movies. This is something we know now through years and years and honestly through the centuries. This is how black mail has oftentimes worked.

You walk into a foreign land, they keep an eye on you. They keep a close eye on you. It's not because they know you're going to do something wrong. It's because in the event you do do something wrong, they prefer to have a record of it, just in case it comes in handy for them somewhere down the road, especially nations that are hostile to us, especially countries obsessed with or as obsessed with surveillance as China, as the

Communist Party of China is. What I'm telling you is this, if I, Jesse Kelly, now, I can't ever visit China because they want to murder me there. The whole Communist Party is not happy with me over there, I should note, Yeah, christ their state media has even run articles about how hateful I am, and so I can't visit China or they'll just probably kill me or throw me in prison anyway. But what's that, Chris. Yeah, when I discussed American troops sitting on a throne of Chinese, I will admit that

didn't land well in the Chinese government. It did, It did not, anyway, So let's pretend like I wasn't on the outs with China. Let's just pretend on me, just Jesse Kelly, if I go over there enough times, they're going to make contact with me. They're going to know I've gone over there enough times. It's going to be in their records. They're going to make contact with me. They're going to start to watch me. They're going to possibly bug me, record me audio video wise. Now, let's

discuss this. Tim Walls m hmm is odd. Isn't he any reasonable person who's seen how he speaks? His weird frenetic hand motions. He shook his hand, he shook hands with his wife when she greeted him on stage, didn't hugger, didn't kiss her, shook her hand first, and then they realized how awkward it was, and they had the most uncomfortable looking embrace ever. Tim Walls is odd. I'll leave it at that. Is odd, a very odd human being. Do you think Tim Walls thirty times visiting China, do

you think he spent all of his time eating egg rolls? Chris? I didn't, Chris, Chris said yes, Why don't you grow up? Chris? Anyway? Do you think maybe in thirty visits to China, look This is a serious conversation. We're not doing gossip magazine stuff. This stuff has national, international implications. Do you think in Tim Walls's thirty times visiting China, do you think maybe he ever did something he wouldn't want everyone to know. I don't know what that's something maybe, and I'm really

not I don't have any idea. I don't know how bad the drug problem is there. I know it's there. I think Tim Walls ever spent a couple hours in an opium den. Did Tim Walls ever step into a palas of ill repute? Do you think the Chinese government has damaging information on Tim Walls? Of course they do. The dude already has a dui here? What did he do in all that time in China? Do you think the Communist Party of China has damaging information on Tim Walls?

It's just a very frank coush. Do you believe that I do spend that much time in another country, which that in and of itself is weird. They have damaging information on Tim Walls? Now, if the Chinese have damaging information on Tim Walls, and Tim Walls happens to become Vice president of the United States of America in China gives Old Timmy a call. It makes a fairly simple request. Hey Tim, not asking for anything major here, but we are gonna need from you. We're gonna need the location

of the fleet in the Pacific. Hey Tim, there are some nuclear sites we haven't been able to locate in the continental US. Pass that info along to us, please, Hey Tim, we are thinking about invading Timewan. If we do so, we're gonna want to hit America with a little emp to fry out just the right amount of power grids. Hey Tim, we think we have a good map of where they are. But you are the vice president. You have access to all this information. Why don't you

go ahead and send us a full list. Oh and Tim, if you don't do this, if you don't click forward on that little email, well there's gonna be some pictures or video hitting the interwebs you're not gonna be happy with. So how espionage works, political influence, That's how it's always worked. It scares me to know that that human being might be close to the White House. How often have we

talked about the Biden family alone? Joe Biden and more specifically his son Hunter and apparently every member of the Biden extended family having huge financial ties to China is not a small deal. It's a really, really, really big deal, especially when you marry that with things like, oh, I don't know, the US military detecting a Chinese spy balloon over Alaska. The Biden administration allowed it to traverse the entirety of the United States of America from Alaska to

the Atlantic. I need to remind you. It did figure eights over the top of our military base, is gathering all the intel it could. Biden refused to shoot it down and to it had completed its mission and was over the Atlantic Ocean. That's the kind of thing that happens in peacetime when your president is compromised by your mortal enemy in China. We're going to do this a second time. So anyway, I got sidetracked with Tim wall stuff. Let's go to the debate thing and why I'm excited, hopeful,

and very very nervous. I will explain in a moment. You know, there are days when I have to explain what's happening in Israel, what it's like over there, and then there are days like today where I think you pretty much get the message. The rockets are reigning down, the people are in bomb shelters, praying they live to see the sunrise. The IFCJ is still there there providing everything they can food, water, bomb shelters, flack jackets. As

this whole spicy affair kicks off. It's the IFCJ, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews that will be there trying to care for the Israeli people as they suffer like a nation going through war. Help them call them eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ, or go to support IFCJ dot org. More debate talk the Jesse Kelly Show on air and online at Jesse. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday. Remember, you can email

the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. You can leave us a voicemail at eight seven seven three seven seven four three seven three. Now along our continuing theme for the Night of wins can be losses. Eventually, let's talk about this. Vance is going to debate Tim Walls about an hour and a half from now, a little bit more than an hour and a half from now. And there are two things that make me extremely nervous about it. One of them is this. I'm very confident.

I'm absurdly confident in Vance. And I've seen Walls. I've seen him debate. I've looked through I know I'm a nerd. I've looked through old footage of him debating. He's not very good and Walls rarely gets challenged and Vance. Look. I was actually talking to a GOP activist in Minnesota yesterday. He said, if you could build the kind of guy

who would get under Walls's skin, it would be JD. Vance. JD. Vance will be happy, but he will take shots shots that Walls doesn't want to have to take shots that Walls probably won't handle well. Walls is well known to have an anger problem. Anyway, all these things look everything looks good for Vance. And that's what makes me nervous because every time this happens in politics, every single time, every time I'm looking at a race or a debate beforehand,

and I've convinced myself we can't lose. Every single time we end up losing. You remember the midterms. I predicted we were gonna pick up forty seats, and I swore to you I'd shave in a mustache if we didn't. And we didn't, and I had to shave in a mustache. My wife wouldn't touch me for a week. I've gone through this before. Remember the last debate Trump Kamala where we sat here, and we sat here the night of the debate and we said, I don't see how Trump

could lose. She's such a moron. She doesn't know any of the issues. She can't even speak. Trump knows all the issues. He's really great on his feet. It's gonna bring a great night for us. Whoo and what did we get? Well, my dad didn't leave me that much money. And there's lots of people at my rallies. Okay, every time I get over confident, it doesn't go our way. Now there's another thing that makes me nervous. Back to

the winds become losses. Remember when Donald Trump just slaughtered Joe Biden and that debate, I know you remember it. It was politically one of the most joyful, hilarious nights of my life. I watched every minute of the debate. Joe Biden was so bad. Everyone knew it was bad. My sons now they're getting better about world issues and politics, but they don't even know what they're looking at. Yet they knew in five minutes, Dad, what's wrong with him? Dad?

He looks terrible talking about Biden. And then the post debate, I went to bed. I don't go. I don't stay up late. I think I went to bed at midnight or one am that night. Why what was I doing? Was I having a rager? I couldn't turn CNN off. They were crying on camera about what happened, about how bad it was for Joe Biden. I don't really have Democrat friends, a couple Democrat acquaintances, but I do. You have a lot of political friends who have Democrat friends.

And I told you that night they were texting me. Democrats were turning it off a half hour into it and getting drunk. They were so depressed, so angry. That night was cataclysmic for Democrats. It was apocalyptic. It was Hiroshima for Democrats. It wounded them that badly. They watched their nominee for president destroy end his political career, and in their minds, they watched him lose the election. It was it was look as joyful as that night was

for you. That's how much that night hurt for them. And we celebrated, didn't we. I celebrated. I was up with ob for hours and hours and hours, both of us way past our bedtime, just watching. Oh my gosh, look I'm mad they are. It's a huge win, wasn't it. What a win? But wins can become losses, you see, because if you're hosting a debate, we all know the Republicans are two weeks stupid and useless to ever get a decent moderator for the debate. So every debate is

going to be on NBCABCCBSCNN. They'll only walk into hostile territory. They'll only deal with communist journalists. Now, if you are one of those communist news networks or communist journalists, you have been given instructions, and your instructions, while they may be more detailed than this, your instructions from this point until the end of time are going to be this. Don't you dare let happen what happened during that Joe

Biden Donald Trump debate. Moderators and networks have been given in the most specific, emphatic instructions you could possibly give, and they will be given those instructions every single presidential election cycle. Biden Trump debate. That win for us will reverberate for decades in communist circles, moderators and networks will be told, in no uncertain terms, don't you dare allow our candidate to go on stage again and destroy us

and destroy his career. You better bend over backwards, sacrifice your reputation, do whatever you have to do to make sure that never happens again. In the wake of horrible tragedy like that for them, you make adjustments and again after that huge win, remember the ABC debate. Yeah, Trump didn't have his best night, but between davidmir and Lindsay Lip injections, the most biased debate I've ever seen in

my life, and I've seen bias debates. Why was it so biased because David and Lindsey Lips they were both told, don't you dare pull a Jake Tapper or a data bash. You better pray. Kamala Harris walks off this stage looking good. And that's how they acted. And that brings us to tonight. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday. Now, let's just finish up this talk really quickly on the debate, because I'm going to do some emails before I get back to the hurricane, flooding stuff. There's just so much

we have to tackle tonight. They know they're already down too, you know how I just said the moderators are going to be uniquely biased. They know they're down. This was Senator former Senators mccaskell, Claire mccaskell, Missouri. She's a total nutbag, but this is what she went on TV and said, Ive end the debate.

he will be better than Trump was. And I think it's really going to be a challenge for Tim Walls to be able to counter what he is going to bring at the same time stay really likable and relatable, and then also in still confidence in the American people that he's the better one to be in the wings

in case something were to happen to the president. So I just think we need the lower expectations a little bit because then we can all be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong, and that Tim Walls just mops the floor with him, the same way Kamala Harris mops the floor with Donald Trump.

will ever be forgotten by the left. The left will remember that pain, They will remember that night, and they will bend over backwards to make sure that never ever happens again. That's what makes me nervous. Now, Look, jd Vance, you know how hard I am on politicians on our own side too. I just am Jady Vance has been awesome on the campaign, t awesome on message, happy warrior. He's been great, great energy, He's a great debater. What He's a Yale guy, and one of these times this

is a great debater. He just knows what he's doing. I saw his debate against I think it was Miller, Tim Miller, Ohio when he was in that Senate race. Just crushed him, just absolutely crushed him. His timing is really good. Debates are about this is why. This is really what makes some people great debaters and not and debate prep. Yes, it's important, it's important you know the issues. But what I'm about to say is oftentimes something you

can't teach. Again, back to the other continuing theme for tonight, taking the temperature of the room. When do you strike, When do you stay silent? When do you parry? Those are important things. They will give, they will leave themselves openings. And if you time it right, if you can think on your feet in that way and avoid getting too deep in your emotions, you can knife them right when the time is right, right, when the time is right. I uh, talk about me for a minute. It's all

about me. Of course. Back when I was running in that GOP primary, my first ever congressional run I was in, we had all these GOP primary debates and one of them was huge. It was the one so all the GOP voters everyone was tuning in and there were a few of us on stage, and it was me and you know, the more establishment type guy, and everyone knew I was the firebrand, the hardcore right winger. But I loved debates. I love them. People get nervous for them.

They're my favorite thing in the world. I enjoy fighting, I enjoy the crowd. I wanted to fight, and my timing was always what saved me in the debates. It was never that I knew more about the issues. I didn't know more about the issues. Now I knew the issues, But it was that I knew more about the issues than the establishment guy. He'd been in elected office for a decade or something like that. I didn't know all the issues, all the numbers, dollars and cents things that

he knew. But what I did better than him, better than all of them up there, is I timed it right. We were only allowed a few challenges in one of our debates. I actually think this video is still online somewhere. I should dig it up. But we were only allowed a couple rebuttals in our debates. And once you used them, I think it was one or two. Once you used them,

you couldn't use them anymore. Well, people get nervous in the debates, and so they used all theirs up early on, and I was just waiting, and I was just waiting, and I was just waiting, and I was just hoping that he the main opponent of mine, the establishment guy. I was waiting and hoping he would leave me an opening with something he said he would expose, and I

just held onto mind. I think there was like ten minutes left in the debate, and I forget what it was he said, but he might as well have just opened up his chest and said, stab me Jesse, because he laid himself out and I destroyed him. The crowd went on their feet, they took a straw pull after I slaughtered him. Absolutely, it was in that moment you time it right, and that's what jd. Vance does very very well. When do you block, when do you perry?

When do you attack? Again? I'm getting myself all hyped up for tonight, and I shouldn't because that's always what I get disappointed. I think it's gonna be a good night. All right, Let's move on. Let's do some emails because I want to talk about some hurricane flood stuff and do some other things during the show. Dear tiny hands Jesse, you know you guys are not nice. I live in red, Ohio, but school districts are trying to remove life Wise religious

instruction as an option for students. I moved to a red area because a suburb of Columbus was turning from red to purple to blue. Anyways, some group tried to remove life Wise from our schools a while back, and our very conservative school boards shut them down, and we still have Life Wise. Local power matters. I miss parts of life in Columbus, but life is way better in my red area. Anyways, wanted to tell this story as an example of how local power matters. His name is John.

Local power is everything. No matter what happens with the docs and the money and the war and the immigration, in all things, no matter what comes for us, you will be better off if your community and on a larger scale, your state are fortified against the communist menace, and you are the one who can fortify it again no matter what. Maybe maybe we'll get this whole band back together again and we'll get things straightened out in

this country. And if we do that, then if you have done the work and you've taken back your community your school board, your city, your county, your state. Then you'll be even better than everyone else. And maybe maybe we will not fix anything. Everything the history of the world says we likely will not. That's not something that happens when empires begin to die, they don't generally right

the ship. But if that happens, if the Titanic really sinks beneath the waves, you will be so much better off right now if you fortify your area against whatever comes. We are going to get into some flood hurricane stuff here in a minute, and back to taking the temperature of the room thing. But along those lines, I'm gathering as many stories and emails and things like that as

humanly possible. And you know, a consistent theme I have seen from North Carolina, from Tennessee, where all this devastation is. This wasn't even government, It was a natural disaster. The people who had community fared so much better than those who did not. Ashville Blue run Communist run Dump, which used to be a sweet place, I should know, but Blue Run Dump complete anarchy disaster. The more red areas where there was a strong community, they're helping each other,

supporting each other. That's where we have to focus. All right, let's discuss all that in a moment. Before we do that, let's discuss well, real estate, you see, hard assets. I just had a chance to talk to Carol Roth again the other day, and she was talking about the debt bomb, the debt crisis that is here. It's not coming, it's here. We're in the early stages of it. Carol, what do you do?

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little bit more than an hour from now. World War three probably starts five minutes after that. People are still trying to put their lives together in North Carolina and Tennessee. We'll talk about that in a moment. And nothing is coming into ports on the entire Eastern seaboard other than that, nothing going on on this October first in the United States of America. Now, let's talk just for a couple of minutes about the hurricane disaster relief stuff. So I told you I was going to dig and I was

going to give you something something. Most of you were already going to know this, but I was going to try to find something, a place where you can go to give and help. Here's where I gave. I'll give you two things I gave to Samaritan's purse. Also, Glenn Beck's Mercury one is amazing. Mercury one dot org is amazing. The Glenn's been doing this kind of stuff for a very very long time. That's where I would go if I were you. Samaritans Purse or Mercury mercuryw dot org.

If you have the means, if you want to do something, whether it's a dollar or whatever, that's where I would go to do. So again, let me remind you the nonprofit world, the charity world, it is dirty. It's full of all kinds of filth. It's full of people who rip you off. The money doesn't go where you want it to go. And so just be careful with your money. And I got this email. I wanted to clarify something here because a lot of this is charity CEO salary.

That's the title of this email. And this can get confusing. So here's what the guy says. Jesse, longtime supporter of Saint Jude Hospital, started looking at the salary of the CEOs. Saint Jude's CEO is one point three million shiners, is one point one million Samaritans Purse. That's Franklin Graham eight eighty k Wounded Warrior for eighty eight. Tunnel to towers zero dollars. Gosh, I love tunnel to towers, of course,

zero dollars. Jesse to the President of the United States makes four hundred K. What makes these CEOs worth that much money? I know you're a busy guy. Check out the charities. Okay, so I understand, I understand when you give to a charity, and I'm not actually selling you on any of those. In fact, I hate most of the ones you just laid out there. They have great reputations they don't deserve. But so I'm not defending those specifically, But I will say this charity rating websites are actually

more important than the salary of the CEO. Not everyone's going to be Tunnel to Towers where they just simply unload every dime of the Tunnel to Towers is unique. Tunnel to Towers and Pure Talk are unique. That's why I had loved them so much. That's why I adore them. Pure Talk's the same way money goes to the babies. I want say babies, you give to Pure Talk or not Puretalk preborn I'm sorry, Preborn's say preborn, tunnel to towers. Same thing. Money gets to the babies at preborn. Money

gets to the families and tunnel to towers. But let's set those aside, because those are ones that you know, I already have an affinity for If the CEO of the charity you're giving to makes a lot of money, that's not always a bad sign. Sometimes it is. Allow me to explain, if I start at charity and it's just me and Jewish producer Chris, He'll handle the accounting, I don't need to make much money, because how hard is it. I'm alone. All I have is Chris to

worry about. I have one employee. We can't do very much because it's just two of us. We can raise some money, we'll distribute some things, but I don't need to be a very capable person to manage a charity of that size. But if you get into a lie large charity, a very very large charity, and again I'm not defending all these salaries. Some of them may be egregious and horrible. I'm not defending that. But if you get into a large organization, let's say Jesse's charity, which

I would probably name my charity. Jesse does wonderful things for people, That's the name of my charity. So if Jesse does wonderful things to people, if it becomes a thousand person operation, a thousand people and let's just say I can't run it. I have to hire somebody to run it. Well, I need a highly capable human being to organize, to implement a vision. To be the CEO of a thousand person company, even a charity is a big deal with a lot of responsibility, and I need

a capable human being to do the job. Now, Ideally, if we lived in this perfect world of rainbow and unicorns, ideally I would find someone who's highly capable who wants to do it for free. But that's not how life actually works. Do you like to do a bunch of things for free? You can't find a person who's gonna manage a thousand person organization for free. So me, the head of Jesse Kelly, does wonderful things for people. The name of the charity, I have to go find what.

I have to go find a CEO who can handle a company of that size, And a CEO who can handle a company of that size is going to need to be paid. And if I don't pay him, I either found a saint or a moron. And there aren't a lot of saints. There are a lot of morons. So just by its size, a charity might need to pay a ridiculous amount of money to the CEO. Nobody wants to hear that. No one wants the tunnel to towers model where they don't take a time. But in reality,

charities are organizations too. Lots of them are scammers, as I've explained, but charities are organizations too. And if you're trying to find a man to take command of a thousand people, you're gonna have to find the kind of guy you're gonna have to pay a Spottom line. All right, So yes, CEO salary, the salary of the CEO. It does matter. I'm not saying just dismiss it at all. But charity rating websites are better than just looking at

the CEO. And I don't want to give you a specific charity rating website because I don't trust those either. There are several, and whenever Chris and I are interested in something and we're looking something up, we look at several because I wouldn't trust one. If there's one, I assume that charity bought it and he's given him a good rating. Look, I'm a naturally cynical and suspicious person. Go look at charity rating websites. Oh, look at them. This has been a podcast from w o R