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Putin's hands right now. We are the reason. But the mineral rights deal serve two purposes, you see, by giving us a financial interest in Ukraine. Now if Russia decides they want to ramp up hostilities again next year, and those dirty Ruskies can always be banked on to do that eventually. Now you're pressing our financial interest. And now you better be real careful, Jack. So that in and of itself was a security guarantee to Ukraine. And then

there's Russia. I'm not going to go into it against everybody. Done it a couple times this week. Russia has reclaimed the territory it wanted, the Russian Speaking territory, the warm Water Poorts, all the valuable, valuable territory. They've claimed it, they invaded it, they've bitten, they've held it. Good, good, good, good for I mean good for them. I should say Russia's gotten it. And the reason Russia has been easier to deal with is because Russia has gotten really what

it wanted out of the whole thing. Remember, just pause for a moment, remember this. Anybody on any side of the Aisle, Democrat, Republican, I don't care whether he was a general or a radio host or a CIA guy or whoever. Anybody who's told you that Putin plans to march through Europe once he takes Ukraine is either an idiot or a liar. Anybody who's told you that Putin plans to march through Europe is either an idiot or

a liar. Putin doesn't even have the it doesn't even have close to the ability to do something like that. They weren't even able to take all of Ukraine. So the only reason someone says that to you is they heard it from another idiot or liar and they're repeating it, or they're lying, trying to emotionally manipulate you and convince you once again that every war is World War two. And of course Putin is Hitler in this case. That's not what's happening. Here. Okay, Russia took back the Russian

speaking territory they want in Ukraine. Period. They took it, So of course Russia is going to be more accommodating to Trump when Trump says, hey, you're ready to make a deal, because in the end, yeah, Russia might have to give a little of this, a little of that back of it, but for the most part they're going to get to keep what they always wanted to keep.

Of course, Russia is going to be more accommodating. This brings us to Ukraine, because Trump laid it out in the beginning, they're more difficul to deal.

Nobody roots for Goliath when they read the story of David and Goliath. It just doesn't work that way. The smaller one usually gets the people behind it. So we don't like to hear that Ukraine has lost. And America has been so infected with Marvel movie mentality that we believe in the end that Iron Man, of course, will always win. He'll be down and out, but he'll come back at any moment. Now, just give him another couple weeks. But that's not how wars work, and that's not how

real life works at all. Ukraine doesn't have the troops, they don't have enough men. But more probably more importantly than that, they don't have the manufacturing. They can't produce enough stuff. Remember World War two? World Why should talk to World War Two? So there's a bunch of questions about that tonight. World War two was not necessarily one on the front lines. Of course, you know that was important, and that's what we honor. World War two was one

in the manufacturing sector of America Japan. Towards the end, they just couldn't make They couldn't get the fuel, that couldn't make the ships, they couldn't make the planes, they couldn't Germany, same thing. This couldn't make enough stuff where we were just churning out stuff. What are you going to do with endless supplies of planes and tanks? You can't win, Ukraine can't win. It's not possible. But there's

the NATO aspect, which we touched on last night. Why would Ukraine be so tough to deal with right now when they know the reality of everything I just said Europe, the other parts of NATO, really, all the parts of NATO that aren't us, Europe has told them, oh no, no, no, no, we've got you. Well, we've got you covered. And now Europe's out there saying things like this.

The time to make a deal was now. Don't bank on us.

He's letting NATO know, you keep turning this up and you don't ever.

people have rung up their credit cards. Americans are not now what they were in nineteen ninety and twenty years of a failed global war on terror did a lot to contribute it. Contribute to it too. The American people are done, and so many back on the home front don't seem to want to accept that Trump's stance on this is popular.

Imagine you're laying there tonight sleep glass breaks in your house in California. You hear somebody coming into your living room and you have to make the choice whether to put that guy down and go to prison or not. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Friday. Don't forget. You can still email us love, hate, death threats. Oh can be emailed into Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Yeah, Trump, as you could hear there, was frustrated with Russia because

Russia did. I mean, I understand it from Russia's angle. They're trying to pressure Ukraine to sign the deal. But Russia has ramped up the bombing. Trump said in the statement, Russia's bombing the heck out of him right now. And just to give you a kind of a little boots on the ground eye view from something I finally did confirm this morning. You know Cursk, you World War two historians will know about Curse because the largest tank battle in history took place there. But we're not doing that

right now. Kursk is an area in Russia. Ukraine at one point in time, trying to back the Ruskies off, launched an offensive into Russia, into Kursk. Well, look, we all love an offensive, right, we all love generals and militaries that play offense. Yeah, don't just sit back on your heels, go attack. We love that. But when you're going to do that, you had better make sure or you guard your rear. You had better make sure you guard your supply lines because if you don't, and if

the enemy is able to sever your rear. Meaning just picture an imaginary line between you you pushed into Kursk, but draw a line, but a wire, if you will, a wire from you back to home base. If the enemy is able to step in and sever that wire and stand between you and your home base, you are probably faced with annihilation. And right now the Russians are I can't figure out whether or not they've encircled them

or they're closing in on encircling them. But it looks like they are cutting off or have already cut off the Ukrainians that have sallied forth into Russia. And that is so unbelievably sad if they have, because look if the Russians themselves had happened to them all the time. The Nazis, for all the crap they get about their stupid invasion invasion of Russia, they really did beat the living tar out of the Russians for a long time. And they kept doing that to the Russians when they invaded.

They kept finding a way to completely encircle them. And tell me this isn't a nightmare because it was such a war of annihilation and they weren't interested really in prisoners and stuff like that. The Nazis would encircle, you know, one hundred thousand men Russian army and then just set up all their artillery facing the middle and just artilleryum until they're all just pigs meat, and then move on to the next one. That's the kind of thing that

can happen when your army gets encircled and that's ugly. Anyway, let's get out of here talk about some other stuff. Jesse, this might be more of a shrink question for you. But out of town friends of the family came by this weekend last week and followed everything they said, and I mean everything, they would laugh, not a real laugh, but a forced laugh. A typical example would be looks like it's raining outside. Ha ha ha ha haa. No matter what they said, it was followed by a laugh.

Why do people do that? If what they said was funny, it would make sense. But I just don't understand why. Any insights about this. Okay, So I'm not going to use his name for obvious reasons. One he asked me not to, and two unless you tell me to, I don't use your name, even for the death threats. But I will say this is probably a generational thing for

a reason. And here's why. You will see not just people who are you know, fifteen, You'll see people today in their thirties and forties who will do that lots of times. Isn't it crazy? I went and got Starbucks before I got here, ha ha ha. You've heard people talk like this. Well, older people don't understand how much more social they are than this generation because of technology and social media. And I'm really not putting down this generation.

You can't change how technology changes. But I'm only forty three. When I was a kid, when I went to hang out with friends, oh we might be getting into trouble, depending on how old we were, but we were outside of the house. We were out causing a ruckus somewhere. We're building bike ramps, We're leaving flaming bags of poop on the neighbor's lawn and ringing his doorbell. We're doing all kinds of stupid stuff. But we were out doing it together with no choice but to talk and talk

in person, face to face. Today, generations of people, not just Americans, generations of people do not get together with friends physically. They'll play online, you know, video games or some social media at Facebook or Instagram with friends, and there are many negatives that come with that. I suppose there are some positives. You know, are doing less fewer drugs now than they ever were there, so there are

some some positive positives to it. But but one of the negatives is so many people get uncomfortable having a basic conversation now that laughing after every time you talk. That's a nervous thing. It's a nervous thing because you're not comfortable around people. I make we make our sons like they have phones, they have smartphones. They're not. They're not. We don't have them hidden under the bed. They are controlled and at at the dinner table, during family time,

board game time. That phone is mine. That phone is if I see it, it's mine. We'll have them leave it in the car. If we're going in to hang out with relatives, we just uh we you know, family reunion. No no, no, no, no, there's no phone. There's no sticking off to the bathroom. There's no nothing. And I've told you I do this with my boys. Highly recommend it to you parents. Every kid listening is gonna hate me

for this. Whenever I make my kids go to adult parties like we had a we were at a super Bowl party, I make my kids bring me back a piece of information about a strange adult they didn't know before. The only way to do that is asking a question. Go stand there like a man, figure out how to talk to somebody. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Friday, and it is super super wonderful because.

to prison. Government people must go to prison. We must have government people in prison by the end of Trump's four years to make an example out of what happens when you abuse your position in government. It has to happen. Firings. Are not enough thrilled about the firings, Fire them all, arrest them. You're going to criticize. Got to give credit where it's due. Christynome came out today said this.

politically popular. Nobody in the country's gonna yell at you for arresting DHS employees who are leaking this information trying to protect rapists, putting officers in jeopardy. It's handed to you right here, And if anyone's listening in the Attorney General's office, don't fall into the don't.

Mexico last four years. I disagree, because the tariffs cause uncertainty in the markets, and there's no way Trump would tolerate in an erratic market for four years. This tariff issue with Mexico and Canada will be over in three months. China's will last longer. You could be right about that. I don't know that we necessarily considered this aspect of

the tariff thing either. When it came to yesterday, remember we had I think it was Wednesday, real stock market dip kind of everyone was panicking, and then Thursday Trump comes out and says, ah, I know tariffs for Mexico. Maybe Trump backed off that because of the stock market dip. Remember markets can push back against presidents do and oftentimes do.

Historical oracle. Going through my parents loft the other day, I discovered metals and pictures of Abel Seaman Leonard Peach, who would have been my great uncle, but my great great uncle. He died at age twenty invading Italy on the Queen Emma Warship. So much information available on Normany in Japan, et cetera, but I rarely hear about the history of the fighting in Italy. Do you have any

historic tales you could enlighten me with? Prayers for you and your family from across the pond, wish us looking they're trying to rid the Comedis from the other side of the Atlantic. He's in the UK. Yeah, man, prayers for you. Prayers for you guys in the UK, you're under it too. And yeah, look this guy's a brit So what happened this? I'll just give you a generic

general history on it. The ebbs and flows of the of the World War in Europe, will focus just on the European part of it kind of went like this. Trump Obviously, he invades Poland, he takes over France. This is all before we were involved. He starts smacking around Britain. He wants Britain to submit. Church Hill famously, very stubborn, stands up, we will never surrender, does all that kind of stuff. At some point, you know, the RAF Britain

puts up a real, real admirable fight. They really did there, and Hitler decides, I don't care about Britain as much. They're not submitting. But Hitler was not a Briton hater. He wasn't. He had a huge acts to grind with France because of World War One, and I realized Britain fought on the same side, but that wasn't near like the German acts to grind was much more with France because remember Germany lost incredibly valuable territory to France at

the end of World War One. Hitler had a huge acts to grind with France, and he really had a huge acts to grind with Russia, who he mainly blamed for that loss of World War One. Sorry not to rewind again, remember the Russians. They had that Russian Revolution where the Communists took over Russia, and then as soon as the Communists took over Russia, they kind of screwed the whole thing up for everybody. Well, Hitler blamed the Russians specifically, he blamed the Jews in Russia, but the

Russians in general. Hitler didn't want Britain, didn't care really about Britain. He really just wanted Britain out of the way. Hitler decides to go after Russia. Okay, he goes after Russia. Now all this is really before our involvement. Keep in mind he takes off after Russia. Operation Barbarosa goes clear. In Operation Barbarosa gets clear to Stalingrad. They really won a lot of that. I mean, they were decimating the Russians, but the Russians are The longer you're in a war

with Russians, the more difficult it's going to be. They get their feet underneath them, they get the right generals and people like that. In pray in Place, Stalin had shot and imprisoned a lot of their best generals, so that hurt them in the beginning. They finally get to Stalingrad, the Russian winter and the fierce fighting of the Red Armies. They really stood up to the Germans. They finally defeat the Nazi sixth Army in Stalingrad. The Russians start pushing back. Okay,

so now we're talking nineteen forty one. The Russians start pushing back, pushing the Nazis back. The Allies. They have to take back Europe. You can't just bank on Stalin doing it, he might not even be able to do what the Allies have to take back Europe. And the argument was always, how do we do this? Remember Hindsight's twenty twenty. Now where do we go? Do we cross the English Channel for Normandy? Do we do this? Do we do that? They got together and they decided this

was really a church Hill FDR thing. They decided that Italy was the quote soft underbelly of Europe. And the reason they really thought that in their defense, even though I'm definitely not an FDR fan, and even though the the Italian campaign was it should never have happened, the reason they thought it was the soft underbelly of Europe

is the Italians. Now it's fun to make fun of Italian military prowess, it is, But in their defense, the Russian military budget was ten percent of the German military budget. They didn't have the economy, the manufacturing base, that anything to create this significant modern army that was going to stand shoulder to shoulder with Hitler's modern army, which was very, very good. The Italians didn't have the men for that, they didn't have the equipment for that. But Fdr Churchill

they figured, hey, Italy. It's held by Italians. Why don't we just go and we'll come at Hitler from underneath. We'll kind of give them the old sandwich treatment. We'll come at them from Normandy and we'll come at them from underneath in Italy. It is CALLI Show on a Wonderful Friday. Don't forget if you miss any part of the show, you can download the whole thing on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes. Chris, whatever happened to the Red Hot chili peppers? Are they

all dead from drugs? I would assume they're not dead? Are they? Are they alive? They're a lot well. I guess if they're not dead, that would probably mean they're alive. That would make sense. Hey, let's finish up our talk real quick. Guy was asking about the Italian campaign in World War Two. Hitler invades Russia. That's obviously going poorly. The Allies are trying to figure out how do we get into Europe? Because Hitler really had set up a

fortress into Europe. It was called Fortress Europe for a reason. A stack on. Germans are pretty freaking good at engineering building fortifications. They used slaves, essentially condensured servants to build incredible fortifications around Europe. Knowing the Allies would want to come in, we figured, hey, let's try to spit roast them.

We'll come in through Italy too, And we did so in part because we knew the Italians were the ones holding Italy and they just weren't even close to the fighting force of the Germans, who were very, very capable. But we just in my opinion, it's one of the more tragic parts of the war. I've done history episodes on it on this show. Long time listeners will remember. I've done multiple on it. I mean, there's a lot

of it. There's a lot of it there. It's an ugly affair because the Germans took over Italy and unlike the Italians, they did know what they were doing. Italy a if you're on the defense, it's a dream. It's all mountains and valleys and rivers. It's mountains of valleys and rivers, mountains of valleys and rivers. It's not a place you want to be on the offense. It's a place you want to be on the defense. Well, I

just mentioned how great the Germans were. They just kept creating these defensive lines there and we got our guys butchered, butchered trying to get there, trying to get through it, and there wasn't a ton that was worth it. Hindsight's always twenty twenty. I'm not even indicting anybody specifically about it. I can understand the strategic thinking. It's easy for me moron sitting here behind the microphone in the year twenty twenty five, to judge the strategic thinking of generals and

military planners fighting a global war. But it just did not work. It didn't work at all. And I know we eventually, General Clark eventually rides through Rome to what he hopes is going to be a hero's welcome, and it it didn't land all that well. But a lot

of very brave men died. And some of the worst fighting America did was on Italian soil, trying to climb up to this fortress, this monastery, trying to claw up mountains and claw through valleys, trying to get those dagon Germans out of there, and they were just dug in like ticks. And it was look if you were and look the Brits were right there with us, to their credit, because this guy was a brit who sent the email. The Brits died just like we died trying to even

just trying to get the foothold onto Italy. People died. We took Sicily without too much trouble. Remember Sicily's that big, huge island right off the toe of the boot of Italy. We took that and that was kind of our staging area. It wasn't like it was nothing, but it wasn't much. But on the Italian mainland, the Germans knew we were coming. They had defensive lines set up and a lot of a lot of men died for a campaign that strategically

really did not give us much of anything. If you had, if you had to sell that campaign as being worth it. The Germans did have to send some units down there to reinforce the line, so we did, and I guess a small way puts put a strain on the German army because they had to reinforce the line. But the Italian campaign, I've done it many times. It is a sad affair. It was a a brutal affair and one most people don't know anything about. Nothing. Jesse. Has the

Democrat Party lost its identity entirely? What is it supposed to look like. I don't know that it's I don't know that I would ever say any party is supposed to look like anything. What we have in America is unique, and you could argue it's not great and that we really have two major parties, two significant parties. That's not normal. Other countries have many parties. Germany has many parties, Canada

has many parties, Israel has many parties. Countries around the world have many parties and they form coalitions based on their shared values with this party or that party. Here in America we kind of have two. So what will happen oftentimes is you have to be the yang to their yin so you try to just be the opposite of whatever they are. Well, oftentimes you see this happening to Democrats right now. That dooms you if you think, no matter what Trump does, you have an obligation to

oppose it because you're the opposition party. Well, what happens when Donald Trump pulls up a thirteen year old brain cancer survivor The whole country loves that. Everybody, anyone with a soul loves that, but you feel like you have an obligation to oppose it because you're the opposition party. You just make yourself look terrible, absolutely terrible. Al Green, Al Green, that moron, that congressman from Houston, has this act of defiance on the House floor. It just looked bad.

It looked bad, It looked small, it looked petty. It didn't look pro America. Even Chuck Schumer couldn't.

position and watch you hang yourself. The men and women's sports thing, I actually don't care for that on principle because I don't think any of this tranning madness should be celebrated. Mentally, ill people need help. They don't need to be affirmed. Okay, you can't change your gender, no matter what your age. The tranny argument goes beyond on dudes beating up women in sports. But politically it is a brilliant move by Trump and the Republican Party because

that is an eighty twenty issue. Even the majority of Democrats. You realize that it's a tiny majority, but even the majority of Democrats don't want dudes beating up chicks in sports. Yet virtually every elected Democrat has come out on that side of it, on the twenty percent side of it, because you have to be the opposition. Now, what's it supposed to look like. We can talk about that the Democrat Party, at least what it was talk about that in a moment, who's going to be on the Democrat ticket?

And many other things.