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my feelings when the regime change? No regime change? Where's all this stuff going? The Iranian response, all that and so much more is coming up in at least the first hour. It's gonna take us a while to get through all that, but we're gonna give a little bit of a historical perspective on those things, and then we're going to talk about some domestic issues that matter a lot.
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guy says, Boy, Jesse, did you ever nail it? That's because I told everyone last week that it was coming. We were going to start dropping bombs. Jesse, your take on Iran being bombed this weekend was incredible. That's why listen. All. Okay, so there's a lot, there's a lot on your mind, and so I'm warning you now the history we're about to do is heading in that direction. Because regime change is a term that's being thrown around a lot in
various ways. There are a lot of people out there saying we're not in the regime change business doing that.
It's in a regime change move. This was designed to degrade and or destroy three nuclear sites related to their nuclear weaponization ambitions. I don't like the regime, but we're not into the regime change business here.
Okay, that's pretty clear from the Secretary of State, Pete hagsv came out and said.
This mission has not been about regime change. The President authorized a precision operation.
Okay, there's been a lot of that talk. Sounds good, but there's some mixed messaging out there. Of course, Donald Trump came out social media. This is what he said. It's not politically correct to use the term regime change, but if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, why wouldn't there be a regime change? Okay, we have several US senators saying this.
We still certainly need to have regime change in Iran. This is the same regime that's threatened America and Americans.
Time for regime change.
And I believe that this president should be given a fair amount of leeway.
To affect that.
It's time to close the chapter on the Iran and Iotolin his henchmen. Let's close that chapter soon and start a new chapter in the Mideast, one of tolerance to hope in peace.
Let's pause everything for a moment, and let's discuss history in a couple of different ways. Because we're going to talk about getting into a war while pretending like you don't want to get into war. We're going to talk about regime change. We're going to talk about lies, We're going to approach this whole thing as we have the entire time, not hysterical, not no war ever ah, and not kill them all, not God sort them out. I Nope, nope, I'm not doing that. We're going to approach this soberly,
and we're going to analyze this like adults, you and me. First, let's go with the regime change aspect of it. Why is that even a thing? Well, let's do some history. This would be very very basic. For people who know history, you will know this. For those who don't, look, history's not taught very well in most schools. For those who don't, this might be some new information. Let's rewind. Oh the way back to the early nineteen hundreds. World War One
is what we're doing here. Germany, France, Britain, Russia, Austria, Hungary. That that was a country back then. They all get in a nasty, nasty, hot war known as World War One. It's bad. Millions of people are dying. The world is horrified. The world is horrified. Okay, the world had never ever seen casualty numbers like this. It just it blew people away that that was even possible. All Right, World War One ends. It ends, and Germany lost. Germany lost, and
the people who won the Frances, the Britons, US. We made a choice, and this choice has been crushed because hindsight is twenty twenty and because of how it worked out in the end. But the thinking at the time was this, we've all lost a lot of lives, We've all lost a lot of treasure here. It was clearly Germany's fault, which let's pause for a second, and that's debatable, but anyway, at the time, it's clearly Germany's fault. Germany was the bad guy. Germany did all this. It's all
the dirty German's fault. So since it was their fault, shouldn't they be punished for it? Shouldn't they pay for everything? Shouldn't they? And so brutal, brutal punishment was brought down on Germany, from US, from France, from Britain. Brutal punishment, the kind of punishment first of all the reparations. The other nations essentially told Germany, hey, sorry, you lost. You need to pay for everything, our war, your war, everything. Now, this is a country whose economy is already in shambles.
You just got done fighting a multi year world war. The economy is already bad, and then we tell them, hey, you need to pay for everything. This would be the equivalent of you, you declare bankruptcy because you've lost it all, you can't pay your bills, and then your mother shows up and tells you that you owe her two hundred and fifty thousand dollars because she spent all that time raising you. You don't, you don't have a penny at
this point in time. So we did that. Oh but we did something else that may have been as damaging as the reparations. We said, hmm, by the way, on top of all this money you're going to need to pay, we're going to go ahead and take all your most valuable territory. So that would be the equivalent of your mother showing up after you declared bankruptcy demanding two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and then work calling you that
day and saying, by the way, you're fired. We took away the most valuable territory, the most valuable parts of their economy. It was a brutal chastisement of Germany. How about that Chris College word chastisement. Anyway, we crushed Germany Germany. It's all your fault. We crushed them. And I know we all look back now and talk about how horrible that decision was. I get that at the time, it made sense to people Germany, it's all your fault, you pay. Okay?
Where that lead? Well, you took a large, modern country and you beat them up, and once you had beaten them up, you then started kicking dirt in their face and spitting on them. The people of Germany were crushed, economically crushed, spiritually crushed, national pride wounded beyond measure, a down in out people you've seen. If you haven't seen, I would actually encourage you to go look this up. Pictures online of people in Germany post World War One?
Germany walking around with wheelbarrows full of cash? Are these rich people know? The cash was so worthless? People would haul it around and start fires with it. You think you've got inflation problems, which I know you do. I'm not dismissing those, but they knew about inflation. A people completely smashed, and then because they were down and out, this happens when a country is down and out, just they heads up. Because Germany was down and out, groups
started to fight for power. Different groups. There were communist groups. Obviously you know about the Nazis. You know who ends up, you end you know in hindsight, who ends up winning this whole thing. But the Nazis weren't the only group in Germany fighting for power. There were many different groups in Germany fighting for power, but all of them, virtually
all of them, were selling a similar message. There was a common thread in all the messaging, and the common thread was you shouldn't have to live like this, You shouldn't have to take this. This shouldn't be this way. You pour, you beaten down wheelbarrels full of cash, because our money's worth this. There should be something better. And of course, you know spoiler alert, you know how that ended up. An insane, hate ful demagogue named Adolf Hitler
who gave an amazing speech. He was infamous for it. He would started out in the beer halls giving it, and he got so famous for his speeches people would gather around just to hear him. He became the voice of this growing Nazi party, Nazis' takeover Europe. Nazis get us all into World War two. Just fast forwarding through all these things, then we end up post World War Two. We will start again there in just a moment. Like I said, this is a very abridged history. I realized
I glossed over just a couple things. It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday, reminding you you can email us, and you should. We love your emails Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. We are talking in a very roundabout way. Israel, Iran, where we're going, where we're at. But first we're addressing the idea, the concept of regime change. That term has been thrown around. We're not doing it. We are doing it well, I think we need it. No, we'd never do that thing, Okay,
So where did it come from? We talked about post World War One in the opening of the show. Post World War One, we decided, well, regime change, that's your freaking problem. We're just gonna bomb the living daylights out of you. Germany. You lost World War One, give us all your money, Screw you, it's your problem now. That led directly to the rise of Adolf Hitler in Nazi Germany. Then World War Two comes the largest, most horrible, most destructive event in all of human history. Death and carnage
like people had never seen. And by the time that war was done, they were looking at each other, the leaders of the world were looking at each other. And with that kind of death, with that kind of sorrow and sadness, you start asking questions, could we have avoided this? What did we do wrong? This was something that should have never happened. So what did we do wrong? And they came to the conclusion, a conclusion that is widely accepted today, that it was that punishment of Germany after
World War One that led to Hitler's rise. Therefore, once you defeat a nation in war, you should step in and help them rebuild their country in a different way. Now, of course they're gonna have to give up some things and whatnot, but you're gonna help them form a new government. Part of it will be their choice, part of it'll be yours. But help them build a new government, help them build a new country. It was I mean, it's
an odd thing, but understandable. And this is gonna sound like I'm defending regime change, but I'm explaining how this idea came to be. Let's simply look at Japan post World War Two. Now, we did the same thing in Europe that that's a little different. But in Japan post World War Two, remember we pounded Japan to dust. Everybody knows about the two atom bombs. The atom bombs were a fraction of what we did to Japan. We carpet bombed almost every Japanese major city. We pulverized that country.
They give up, and we as a country did one of the kindest things I think a major country has ever done. We moved in just to help them rebuild, and then when we were done, we moved out. I'm not even kidding Douglas MacArthur, who everybody knows. General MacArthur
really headed up a lot of this whole thing. But the United States of America moved into Japan, not to conquer it, not to take it over, to say, hey, nah, you can You're not going to be able to have an emperor anymore, that's a no, but we'll help you build a new government. Well, in fact, all these cities that American bomb just vaporized, well help you build those two. Let's rebuild this thing. And once we rebuilt Japan, we moved out. For the most part, I realized we still
have a presence there in Oklahwa. But for the most part, America said, hey, glad we got you back on your feet. Glad hostilities are over. We're going home. Now. That is a really, really important thing to understand about American foreign policy. Now. I'm not just talking history because I nerd out on it. I'm talking about this specific time because this specific time has governed so much of how we view foreign policy and specifically war now, because how has it worked out
for us? What we did in Japan pretty freaking well. Japan is not only a really cool country, which I adore, but they are a close ally now, a very close ally, and a strategically necessary military ally in an area of the world where China can dominate it. What we did with Japan post World War Two, it's hard to describe it as anything but an unbelievable success. We got, we rebuilt, we helped them, we're friends now. It worked out for everybody. It worked out for everybody, And you know what that
was regime change. There's no other way to look at it. We did a regime change and it worked and still works today and works very well. Now let's fast forward. Vietnam comes and yes, we are out to stop communist aggression and South Vietnam is going to be our our friend in this whole endeavor. We're going to stop this North Vietnamese aggression. But South Vietnam had a terribly corrupt government, terribly corrupt government. Look, the North Vietnamese government was horrible
and evil. South Vietnamese government was also horrible, corrupt and evil. We did the best we could to sell that to the people of South Vietnam, and our inability to sell that to them it was a contributing factor in US losing in Vietnam. Now, let's get past Vietnam and get to the War on Terror. And you remember, you remember, well nine to eleven, we wake up, we have our towers destroyed by some dirtball terrorist group named al Qaeda, and we're angry, were sad, and we want to know
who's responsible. And we'll talk about that from there, and regime change and how all this came to be. It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Remember you can download any part of the show if you miss it on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes. Doing a little rewind here discussing American foreign policy, what it was, how did all this regime change talk come to be? So we did World War One and we learned painful lessons from there, and then we did World War Two and we learned lessons on how we handle
the aftermath. And the lesson, the ultimate lesson learned by America really the world, was you can't just beat somebody up. When you beat them up, you need to help them back up when they're done, after they've given up, help them up, get them dressed up, spruced up, get them back on their feet. Otherwise they may come back and take revenge on you. One day, another Hitler may rise. All right, brings us to the g WoT, the Global War on Terror, the g WoT. The towers go down
on nine to eleven. George book Bush, he's president at the time, you remember all this, decides, Hey, let's go into Afghanistan and let's go get this Issama bin Ladinghuy. Now this this may be applicable to today. We don't know. I hope it's not, but it may be. We went in there doing it the right way. We handled it initially the right way. And what I mean by the right way was there was no topol government talk, there
was no regime change talk. We sent in all the specops types, all the Green Berets, the spooks, the CIA guys, the seals. We we sent in all those guys, and they were in there for a mission, a specific mission, and that mission was hunt down and kill Wassama bin Laden. And I don't think anybody, or at least not many people would have an issue with that. The man responsible for killing three thousand Americans on nine to eleven, our
country has to go kill him. You have to do that to send a message to anyone else who may consider doing it. The world has to know you do something like that, you will die. I demand that of my government. I demand my government go do those kinds of things. Otherwise why would I even be a citizen. But somewhere along the way, and we can all debate reasons for this, somewhere along the way we decided, you know, forget about this small footprint, takeout Bin Laden stuff. Why
don't we remove this Afghanistan government, these Taliban guys. Why don't we just get rid of all these people, and then, like we did in Japan, like we did in Europe, we'll get rid of the bad guys and we'll build them something new. We may even have a wonderful ally, and I know you're probably rolling your eyes now again hindsight twenty twenty being what it is, and of course same thing in Iraq. Saddam Hussein's bad guy. It was a bad guy by any measure. We should take him out.
He's evil, he's is he's that Okay, no argument there. Well, let's just go take him out, wipe out his army, and then after we've taken out the bad guy, just like we did in Japan, just like we did in World War Two, we will bring a new form of government, we will help them rebuild, and it'll all work out. But it didn't all work out, did it? By any measure? The Global War on Terror was not a success. And
that freaking guts me to say. Probably, I doubt very much you take any pleasure in hearing it, whether you thought in it or not. It's not pleasant to think about. But we didn't replace the Afghan government and rebuild it. We spent twenty years there in the same group we were going to kick out. Took over five seconds after we left Iraq. Obviously you know all that. What went wrong, A lot of things went wrong. One of the main
things that went wrong was we didn't. We didn't take into account the type of people we were dealing with, the type of culture we were dealing with. And here's what I mean. In Japan. Japan's a very different society, famously different. I love them for their differences, but some people don't care for it. I think they're fascinating, wonderful people. They are very moral people. Let me let me clarify this.
I'm not saying they're any better than Americans or anything else, but they do have a code there, a moral code, big families, grandparents, parents, kids, close. They are very attached to their country. They were, for lack of a better way to put it, they were a people ripe for a new, better form of government. They were a people that was ready to accept it and thrive with it.
They were ready for it. That's not Afghanistan. Totally different history there, totally different type of people, tribal conflict, religious aspects to religious divisions, to totally different kind of society. Exact same thing in Iraq, Iraq, exact same thing we have she Hees versus sun a Dom's bath party. And then of course Iran gets involved there and you have the jihadas and you didn't have this homogeneous, unified society of people who were already prepped and ready for something better.
I'll put it to you this way. A good career, good career, let's call it an air traffic controller. They make good money, right, they make very good money. And I realized it's a stressful job, and it's a good job. Now there are two different people in front of me. One guy, completely put together, comes from a great family. We're hard work, did some sports, has a good moral founding, goes to church every Sunday. Sorry, Chris goes to church
on every Sunday. I hand him an air traffic controller job. Hey, here you go. We're gonna put you through some training and then boom, here's one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year job. There you go. How's that guy gonna do You've never even met him. I just made him up in my mind. You're probably gonna do it, okay, isn't he? Then there's another guy, disastrous family life. He's been divorced four times, in an out of rehab several times his entire life, been in jail a few times.
I offer him the exact same deal. Hey, we're gonna train you up for two months and then into the tower. You go, how's he gonna do? He's not ready, He's not ready for that job. Doesn't matter what he's not ready for the job. Regime change can work and it can't work. It can end with a great guy having a wonderful job, and it can end with two planes colliding and six hundred people dying. Is the guy ready or not? That brings us to where we are now,
where we are, where we're going Israel. Remember, we have different interests out there too, in different interests inside of each country Israel. Understandably, once the Iranian regime gone, it's a very understandable thing if you're in that country and every day it's a new stabbing, a new terrorist attack, a new threat, a new a new this, anew that, and ninety percent of the threat you receive and attacks you receive are in some way connected to funded by
thought up by Iran. The same country. Well, it's the most understandable thing in the world. When given an opportunity to take out that government that's been doing that to you, that you would want to step up and say, okay, it's on that boys, Especially after October seventh, especially after we watch a thousand people die, especially after you know what we are done. Opportunities here, there's more of an appetite for it nationally and internationally than we've ever had before.
Let's go kill all of Iranian's leadership. So that's one motivation, and it's an understandable motivation. And then let's talk about us here at home, the tightrope Donald Trump has to walk with competing and and where we are and where we're going. We'll continue this in a moment. Is the Jesse Kelly Show reminding you you can and should email the show you love, your hate, your death threats, whatever
you'd like Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. So back to our present situation here, Israel wants the Iranian regime gone. I understand earlier today, I'm sure you already saw the former of the Shaw, the guy who would take over, is calling for regime chain. We have a lot of very powerful men in our country calling for regime change. We most certainly need to have regime change in Iran.
This is the same regime that's threatened America and Americans time.
For regime change.
And I believe that this president should be given a fair amount of leeway to fact that it's time to close the chapter on the Iranian iotolin his henchmen. Let's close that chapter soon and start a new chapter in the Mideast.
Tolerance to open pink got pundits all over the television shed television set not shet shed is not that's not a thing. That's that doesn't make any sense anyway. Here they are.
How do you feel about regime change as a US goal? Well, I think it should be America's declared policy. The regime itself is the problem here, has been all along.
Okay, okay, So where does Donald Trump go from here? How do we handle things from here? Well, what Donald Trump very clearly wanted and wants. What he wanted was let me go drop a few bombs and call it good. We practically screamed that we dropped a few bombs, these big bunker buster bombs fired, all these Tamahawk missiles, wiped out these nuclear facilities they had, and then everybody in this administration came out and said, all right, you better
let that be it. Don't attack Hey, we're good now, right, we're good.
Nowfore, shown if the Iranians attack us, they're going to be met with overwhelming force. And I don't think the President could be clear about this. If you look at what we did yesterday, John, we did not attack the nation of Iran. We did not attack any civilian targets. We didn't even attack military targets outside of the three nuclear weapons facilities that we thought were important to accomplish our goal of preventing a Ran from having a nuclear weapon.
So how a Ran? All right? What's he saying there? I understand that that can be a little shoulder shrug inducing when you hear what we didn't even attack Iran. We just bombed their nuclear facilities. But what are they doing? Donald Trump? The Trump administration clearly wants that to be it. He wants to walk the tightrope of hey, we got involved, we helped Iran. Now can't have a nuclear weapon. We helped our ally, Israel. Look at us, Look at what we did. We did it at virtually no risk to us.
We're good now, right, Hey, Ron, We're good now right. And Iran with that attack earlier today, I'm sure you already saw, in case you didn't, they launched six missiles at Qatar. They warned publicly they were getting ready to attack US. They launched six missiles at our base in Qatar. They launched six missiles at our people, but they were all easily intercepted. Nobody heard, and it almost looks like
a face saving thing for Iran. It almost looked like Iran saying, hey, we told you we were gonna hit you back for what you did. Now we did, and now we're definitely good. So we might be good. But here is the issue, and it's a big issue, and I don't know where we're going to go. The big issue is there are a lot of voices out there and a lot of people who hold power out there with motivations that are different from the Trump administration's motivations.
The Trump administration JD Vance in particular. They are aware, very aware that America itself, America is totally fine, and every poll shows this. America is totally fine. The American people are totally fine dropping some bombs on Iranian nuclear facilities. That has overwhelming popular support in this country. The American people saw that and said, yeah, sounds good. Get them.
They are also very very aware the second American boots touched the ground in Iran that public support vanishes That's why jdvans through this.
Se I certainly empathize with Americans who are exhausted after twenty five years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East. I understand the concern, But the difference is that back then we had dump presidents, and now we have a president who actually knows how to accomplish America's national security.
The Trump administration wants to be done, show up, drop the kids off at the pool, meaning drop a couple bunker buster bombs, go home, and call it a day. That's not what Israel wants. That's not what the former leader of Iran wants. Well his son is that what American senators want certainly doesn't sound like it. Those senators those I keep playing this little montage James Langford, Tom Tillis, Lindsey Graham. You know what all three of those guys have in common.
This These guys most certainly need to have regime change in Iran. This is the same regime that's threatened America and Americans time for regime change.
And I believe that this Yeah, you got it. They're all Republicans. I don't know where this is going to go. And yes, that rhyme Chris, I can see the admiration on your face. I don't know where this is going to go. I don't nobody does. I have a pretty good gauge on what the Trump administration wants, but remember they're not the only ones calling the shots. What about the intelligence community? What do you think they want? How
have they? How has the American intelligence community operated when it comes to foreign entanglements trying to get us out of them? Were trying to keep us in them? The Pentagon? I realize Pete Hegseth has the right idea, certainly saying the right thing.
His mission was not and has not been, about regime change.
Everyone at the Pentagon feel that way. How have all those wonderful generals and amirals at the Pentagon, how have they handled America's foreign entanglements trying to get us out of them? I don't know where we're going to go from here. I know the journey is dangerous and we will see where it goes. All right, We're gonna just stay with it and see where it goes. I am after Medal of honor Monday. I am going to bring up another uncomfortable historical thing, and it may make you
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