Medal Of Honor Monday featuring U.S Navy Vietnam War vet Petty Officer 3C Wayne Maurice Caron

minutes after Medal of Honor Monday. And again, this is going to be part one. Part two will probably be tomorrow, if not Wednesday at the latest. And I don't know whether part two will finish it either. But there's a there's a conflict at a period of time we should probably learn more about, given everything that's going on right now. But you know what time it is, it's the start of the second hour on Monday. So we do the same thing we always do. We do Medal of Honor Monday.

When you earn a medal of honor, you get a citation, a write up about what you did. Some of them are very long, some of them are very short. It's going to depend on who does the write up and the conflict itself. You'll notice we don't do very many pre World War two. That's no disrespect to Civil War, World War II, any of the others. But the write ups are pathetic, the two or three sentences World War two. They realize these guys deserve more than that, so they

started picking up the writing. But when you earn one of these, they write you up a citation about what you did. And we should remember these men and remember their deeds. There is a sea of heroes out there we know nothing about. Most people go to their graves knowing nothing about it. You know, in your area there is almost undoubtedly a Medal of Honor recipient from your area. Do you know who he is? Maybe more than one. They're all over the country, all over that you might be.

You might be a couple miles away from the grave of somebody. You and your kids maybe should go lay flowers on that grave and Memorial Day something like that.

We should learn about our heroes. And today, look, we take email suggestions, love, hate, death threats, medal of honor, siggestions, suggestions, whatever you want to send in to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com Jesse Medal of Honor recommendation from Monday Show HM three Wayne M. Karen I had the pleasure of serving on the ship named after him, the USS

Karen d D nine seventy, a Spruance class destroyer. So Chris, without further ado, let's do the Medal of Honor citation for A. Wayne Maurice Karen, United States Navy, born in Middleborough, Massachusetts.

fire and automatic weapons fire, sustaining additional casualties. As he moved to the aid of his wounded comrades. Eight three C. Karen was hit in the arm by enemy fire although not to the regained his feet and continued to the injured marines. He rendered medical assistance to the first marine he reached, who was grievously wounded, and undoubtedly was instrumental in saving the man's life. H. Three C. Karen then ran towards the second wounded marine, but was again hit

by enemy fire, this time in a leg. Nonetheless, he crawled the remaining distance and provided medical way for this severely wounded Manree C. Karen started to make his way to yet another injured comrade when he was again struck by small arms fire. Courageously and with unbelievable determination, three C. Karen continued his attempt to reach the third marine until

he was killed by an enemy rocket round. His inspira is inspiring valor, steadfast determination, and selfless dedication in the face of extreme danger, sustain and enhance the finest traditions of US Naval service, and he gave his life for this country. Rest in peace, brother, all right, one last word on the docks before we dig into history. Doc being a Corman, a Navy corman. Remember, for you civilian

types in the army, they have medics. So if you go down there's an army medic who attends to you, tries to keep you alive. The Marines do not have medics, Navy Corman. They are assigned to Marine Corps infantry units. Those are essentially our medics. We don't call them medics. If you ever watch the movies or something, here's someone saying medic, that's army doc is what the Marines call for. He's your doc. Chris said, why, well, remember, as much as it pains me to admit it, the Marine Corps

is a department of the Navy. In fact, this is probably going to come into play in a little bit in our history story we're about to talk about here. Navy on the water. Obviously, boats and ships. That's great, and it's super important, especially if there's a lot of water around you, very very important. However, it doesn't matter how much of the big Blue you managed to secure. At some point in time, someone has to cross swords with somebody. Someone has to put boots on the ground somewhere.

And a long time ago, about the time the founding of this country came around, the United States Navy said, you know, we're dealing with some problems here and we need some tough dudes. To kind of ride along on the ship. We don't need them to be sailors. We need them to be brawlers and fighters. We need somebody who can come along and provide security. Once we bombarded a place, we need somebody who's insane enough to go to shore and start stabbing and shooting people. I know,

let's get some Marines. And so we came up with the United States Marines, still a branch of the Navy, and so the Navy provides the corman the medical care for it. Now, if you saw if you saw a corman in the wild, if you saw one in Iraq or something, unless you're trained to recognize the gear, you would just think he was a marine. He's gonna be wearing the same things the Marines. Where he's digging a fighting hole right next to the Marines. He lives, works

worships with the Marines. Our docs were Marines as far as we were concerned. I still talk to my doc to this day. Are your doc is somebody you He's right there with you, goes through all the hell you go through and doesn't even get the credit of being

a marine. We always stole doc. He kind of got the chef in fact, we always called him a moron dock who's who joins the Navy and decides he's gonna go through all the awful misery a Marine Corps grunt goes through and doesn't even get to tell his friends he was basically a marine. Didn't you got all the You got all the headache without any of the bragging rights.

All right, all right, enough of that. Now, you wanted to do some history with me, History that I don't know might sound pretty relevant to where we're at and a major thing going on in the world today. So let me ask you something. Couple things. I would assume you at least have heard of most major wars in history, right, and you probably can tick off at least one bullet

point about all of them. Even if World War One, if I said that to you would say trench warfare or something like that, wouldn't you something, Well, there was a war that left a million people dead, a million people dead gone, and most people in the United States of America cannot name one one thing about it, and even if they can name where it is, it's only because of the name of the war. Let's talk about that. It's a fascinating affair. Before we talk about that, let's

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What were you doing? What was it? Maybe it was a skydiving, Maybe it was more benign. Maybe you're afraid to speak in front of people. Maybe you got up and gave a presentation at work and you were just an adrenaline pumpin'. What was the biggest adrenaline rush you've

ever had in your life? I cannot speak for everyone, but I will say this about me, and I think virtually every friend I have, every dude I know, has spent at least a couple minutes of his life daydreaming about what it would be like to be on horseback, charging the enemy with the sword in your hands. Chris am I wrong. Tell me you haven't dreamt of it? Of course? Of course, Corey, have you dreamt of it? Chris claims he of course, Cory has. Cory has. Chris

of course claims he hasn't. Chris, what if I told you there were savings coupons at the other end of the battlefield where anyway, Either way, it's something dude's dream about. A cavalry charge. Now, let's discuss the Crimean War, a Crimean war, and I'm gonna call it Crimean. Don't email me your grammar Nazi things. I don't want to hear them. I went to community college and I'm dumb. The Crimean War it's going to be unbelievably applicable today, at least geographically.

To just stay with me as we walk through this. Here. One thing that I love about the Crimean War that I find so fascinating is you see, we have all this ancient combat, all the ancient things, Thermopylie and then the Romans and all kinds of things, all kinds of ancient combat. And I don't know about you, I've always wanted to see pictures of it, at least video something like that. But the thing is photographs didn't come along

till much later, So obviously you don't have that. What is the first major war in history where we have photography to show it to you? The Crimean War. In fact, if you looked up the Crimean War, it's almost like you're giving this brief, little window into what war used to look like in the past. If you look through enough pictures, and I have I've been geeking out on

this war recently. You can look at not a painting, a picture of a sailing boat, naval armada, not talking about battleships and aircraft carriers of World War two hundalk and you think you're looking at Christopher Columbus. You think you're looking at the Pilgrims, the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria and armada, a naval armada when ships still had sails. That's the Crimean War. So let's set all this up just to give you ads up in

case you're just new to the Jesse Kelly Show. When I tell history, When I talk history, I do not bludgeon you with names and dates and locations that will be very rare history. It's about storytelling. It's not about names, dates and locations. That's boring, and that's not how people get anything out of anything, So you won't get a lot of that when I give it to you. It's just to kind of give you a frame of reference. The time place we're talking about here is the mid

eighteen hundreds. This is before our Civil War, right before. But this is before our civil war. That should help you understand the kind of weaponry we're dealing with, cannons and muskets, things like that. So this is right before the Civil War. And this takes place mostly a couple different places, but it takes place mostly in an area that may sound familiar to you if you've been paying attention to the news at all. It's in the Black Sea.

See that city you've heard so much about recently. Sevastopol is how I'm gonna describe it. I'm sure that's not how you say it, Sevastopol, Sevasto Pole, probably Sebastopol, depending on which language translation Sevastopol. You'll see it if you look up the Black Sea again. A map will help you tell a story every time. If you don't have a map, don't worry about that. I'll explain why that will matter in a little bit. Now. The players in

our story are Russia, Britain, France, and Turkey. And what's funny is all or most of these empires, at least in a little way, seem to have the same thing in common. If you wouldn't describe the empire as fading, which you probably would, the empire is most definitely changing. In Russia, the empire is changing. Their system of government

is changing. This is mid eighteen hundreds. In Britain, their system of government really has already changed, but they're still beginning the process of frankly losing their worldwide empire, although they still had it at this time. France has been mired in war, not against Britain, but they've been mired in war at this time. Turkey, they're not Turkey yet, I call them Turkey right now, there's still the Ottoman Empire.

In the middle of the eighteen hundreds and forever, the Ottoman Empire has been the vanguard of the Islamic world and Europe. The Christian countries of Europe have been terrified, and justifiably so, of these invading Muslim forces. But the Ottoman Empire is at the way back end of their power as well. Starting to crumble. So those are the players. That is the period of time. Now, let's do a little talk about the crimean war before we get back

to politics and everything else. Before we do that. I know when you think about charging a man on horseback with a saber in your hand, it has the effect of boosting your testosterone levels. The problem with that is that's a temporary boost. Maybe for five minutes your t levels will shoot through the roof, but then they will go right back down because you just drank estrogen. The last bottle of water you had. You drank estrogen. You

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right now, the Crimean War. So we just did the setup on it. Russia. Who's the head of Russia at this time? WHOA you've heard of Zar Nicholas? Have you not? Zar Nicholas? The second? Everybody's heard of Zar Nicholas the second? Hey, Chris, who is Zar Nicholas the second? I can't hear you with the microphone off, Chris, Who is our Nicholas's That's exactly right, the Czar of Russia. Guess who was in charge during this time, Zar Nicholas the first se A

lot of this is going to tie in. You want to get weirded out by something else in the story, all kinds of weird things. Who's the head of France at this time? A guy by the name of Napoleon. Napoleon the third Napoleon Bonaparte, the famous emperor, was not his father. In case you're wondering it was his uncle. But Napoleon the Third is head of France, who's one of the guys running things for Britain at this time, A guy who lost his arm fighting Napoleon Emperor one

at Waterloo. That's how connected. That's how this thing connects directly from those days to World War One, which will bring us to Ukraine and Russia today the Crimean War. Russia still is in the time of the Tsars. They have an autocratic government that is going to matter for our purposes. Now they still have one at a time where the world is really starting to shift away from that. Britain thinks of itself as pretty at this time. No, we've embraced liberalism or whatever you want to call it,

and they've moved past that. Turkey's dying. The Ottoman Empire, I should say, they're dying now. The genesis of this actually begins here, Chris in Jerusalem. What Chris I was just that's where it begins. So why let me explain. Under the Ottoman Empire, Christians, yes, they were second class citizens. I don't want to sugarcoat that. Jews as well, jess as well. Christians and Jews non Islamic people were second class citizens. They were, but it wasn't as bad as

you think. For the most part, the Ottoman Empire would let Christians practice Christianity. They would let Jews practice Judaism as long as they did so without making a fuss. Look, pay your taxes, don't make a fuss, don't make problems for us. When we demand you send troops. You're gonna send troops. No, you're not gonna be given all the rights and privileges as a Muslim citizen of the Ottoman Empire. But you can exist here. We're not going to come

crucify you against the synagogue wall. That's just not going to happen. You can exist here. And at this point in time the Ottoman Empire, they are in charge of Jerusalem. That brings us to France and Russia. Now, religions famously don't get along with each other, But just as famous is the infighting that takes place within every religion. Whatever you practice, don't think you're unique. Muslims kill Muslims and

fight them all the time. Jews fight Jews, argue with Jews about what the correct way to practice Judaism is all the time. The Christian Church always fighting now and forever Christians Catholics, there's always fighting Russia. I'm gonna call them Christian that I'm gonna call France Christian. But I realize there are different sects at play here. For the purposes of our story. Just know they're different sects, okay, and they're holy men. They run into each other in

the streets of Jerusalem. Now again, remember the Ottoman Empire's rule. Hey, go do your thing. Worship Jesus sounds good. Just don't don't make headaches for me. Whatever you do, you don't get to make headaches for me. Very similar to how we treat the boys when we turn them loose. There. If it's a terrible day and they're forced to play in the house, you can play in the house. You can be a loud you can rough house right up to the point it becomes a problem for me, and

then you'll be outside in the cold. Keep that in mind. These religious men in the streets of Jerusalem have what essentially amounts to a knife fight, only they were using cruise fixes the beat on each other. I wasn't there for the conversation, but it must have gotten quite heated and little things like that, because you don't care about that individual story, do you. I don't either. It's kind of a funny little Chris is laughing. I'm laughing. It's

kind of a dumb, little historical antidote. But little things can turn into big things very quickly, especially when ambition comes into play. France. France doesn't like it that some of their religious people were beat on in the city of Jerusalem. Russia. Russia doesn't like it the some of their religious people were beat on in the city of Jerusalem. Well, who's administering Jerusalem right now? The Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire,

they're kind of caught in the middle of this whole thing. France. They send a warship. And now we have to and I apologize for going ninety year old Jesse. Now we have to go to our map, and if you're driving, don't worry. I'm going to draw it in your mind while you can. If you're not driving, you can look up the Black Sea. Okay, the Black Sea. If you're driving, I want you to just make a circle in your mind. Look at a map. There's a circle there. That circle

was the Black Sea. Okay that don't worry about memorizing everything. I'm going to say the bottom of the circle, the bottom of it is Turkey, the top right hand corner is Russia. The bottom left hand corner, all right, you're looking southwest is a really important area for the purpose of our story. That's a place now called Istanbul. If you're looking at a modern map, it'll be called Istanbul.

It's called Constantinople back in these days. Istanbul. Now, if you are looking at a map, you can trace Istanbul. Keep going southwest, you'll see this little strip of water. You'd almost call it a river known as the Dardenells, the Dardanelles. What the Dardennells are that strip of water and really Istanbul as well. It's what connects the Black Sea to the open ocean. That is going to be very important for the purpose of our story. The Black Sea can only connect to the ocean open Ocean through

the Dardennells. There aren't two routes. There is one way you are getting your ships in and out of the Black Sea. That is the Dardennells. Okay. Now France gets so angry about this little dust up in Jerusalem, they send a steamship through the Dardennells. There aren't that many steamships. That's a big deal. Getting through the Dardenells is very difficult because prior to this everything's been sailboats. In fact that it'm mainly be sailboats here. How do they just

steam up here? Russia gets involved, they start sending ships, and now the dying Empire part of this, we have to discuss this Zar Nicholas, the first Russia itself, they have always been and this very much applies to today. They've always been concerned about getting isolated geographically, and I know that sounds absurd when you if you're looking at a map like we were just were, it sounds absurd when you look at a country that size. How could

a country of that size ever be isolated geographically? You know, we're not talking about Iowa can be isolated geographically. You know you're not touching the water anywhere, you're in the middle of the country. How could Russia? Why would it ever be a concern? Well, ports, you must have warm water ports, all that big blues stuff to the north of Russia. It's freezing, it's cold, it's icy. You can't ship stuff in and out of there. Most of the time.

To their eastern side, same thing, freezing cold, miserable, awful. There aren't that many water shipping lanes into the country. If your Russia, as big and powerful as your lands are, your water access is a tiny drip. It's teeny tiny. And because of that, they've been looking on what the Ottoman Empire has up to this time, and they've been wanting it really badly. We'll go there next. Is he smarter than everyone who knows? Does he think?

of Istanbul. They want to seize control of that precious waterway that connects the Black Sea to the open Ocean. Now, maybe you're sitting there thinking Okay, maybe it's a little Russian e with the fact that they want to come grab some land. Why would Britain have such a big problem with it and France? Why would Britain and France both have such a big problem with it that they would fight this huge war over it. Well, this comes down to economic reasons too, and that happens a lot.

You see Russia claim they wanted this for religious purposes. They said they were in it too, p to Christians, we have to protect our people. Again, that's a line they still use often today. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, but that's the oftentimes a justification for Russian aggression with things. But why would Britain and France step in? Why are they so concerned with it? By now, Britain is trading with the entire world as you would when your navy

commands the seas. They have a global empire at this point and they trade with everyone, including the Ottoman Empire. Britain gets a lot of stuff and gives a lot of stuff from this area. Russia at this time they have a very different view on trade. They believe really in keeping trade in house, not international trade. When they get goods and services they want to swap back and

forth inside the Russian Empire, not outside. Essentially, Britain is concerned justifiably that if the Russians march on and take Constantinople, if they take Istanbul, they're worried that they will be cut off from the entire Black Sea and cut off from all that trade of the Ottoman Empire. Russia declares war, and they declare they are marching on Constantinople. Now let's go for the bad, right off the bad. Unsurprisingly, this seems to be the tale at the beginning of really

every Russian war I've ever read about. They suck at the very beginning. I don't know. Don't ask me what it is. I'm not an expert on Russia. In the very beginning of every conflict, Russian troops are garbage. The army's garbage. It's not organized, it's not well trained. They just try to throw a bunch of men at whatever the problem happens to be. And they're never as tough as people they are initially. Now the bad side of that, if you're fighting the Russians, they always get there eventually,

and then they turn into a huge headache. You can't deal with.

by how different the countries are at this point. You see Britain they're an incredible sea power as always, they're a really really lousy land power because they haven't really been fighting land wars for a long time. It's been a while. France, exact opposite. France is a really nasty land power. Right now. They've been fighting. I won't go into what they've been fighting. They've been fighting for twenty years.

At this point, they are a hardened wartime army and they decide these two countries who normally hate each other, they decide, hey, this would be a good joint venture Britain's saying, hey, we'll do the sailing. You provide the fighting troops, at least the best ones. And France says, yep, sounds good, and they declare war on Russia. Now you should know, they first thought that they were going to go up into the Baltic Sea. This is a totally

different sea. Don't worry about it, you don't. It's not gonna matter for our purposes here. But they decided they were going to go right after Britain was going to sail. It's amazing navy up to Saint Petersburg. If you're looking at a map, you can look at it. And that was a fine plan. Britain wanted to show them we

can take our anywhere. Even your capital isn't safe. But their capital was quite safe because the Russians had fortifications, including a massive middle of the water fortress guarding Saint Petersburg. And the Britz took a look at it and said, ah, maybe somewhere else, and they bombarded a fort then took little fort up there. But really where they all sailed was down south. They sailed down to the Ottoman Empire, and the goal of this war was this. Obviously, the

defeat of Russia is the overall goal. But remember that Black Sea. I had you draw the circle. Remember the northwestern part of the circle. I said, that's Russia. Well, in the northwestern part of that circle where Russia is, if you look at it, you'll see this big, fat peninsula. It sticks out in the middle of the northern part of the Black Sea. It's not really a peninsula, but you'll see, I mean when you look at it, and

there's a big city on it, Sevastopol. As we discussed earlier, the goal of the British slash French army is to sail this incredible British fleet and British troops, and sail these French troops riding along with the Brits, to sail them through the Dardanelles, past Istanbul up into the Black Sea, and to conquer the warm water port the Russians love so much, the very same warm water port one and

a half million men have died from recently. That would be the Black Sea port in the northeastern part of the Black Sea. What is it? Solomon said in the Bible, there is nothing new under the sun. But the fleet is on the move. The French troops are, and I would say tomorrow we'll find out how it goes from here. Let's pause on all that and go back to politics, shall we. This has been a podcast from wor