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I am enjoying the new much more focused, much more nasty Donald Trump. Donald Trump Part two is just my speed. And we will talk about a lot of that tonight. So we are a couple themes that are going to be on the show. We're gonna talk about changing the way things are and why there's so much resistance to that. You see it globally, you see it in America. I'm gonna talk about the January sixth political protesters being sprung. Josh Hammer is gonna join us about a half hour
from now. Trump's trying to end birthright citizenship by order? Can he do it? We know it's good? Can he? Is it gonna get shot down? We'll talk about that. We have former FBI special Agent Steve Friend. He's going to join me next hour. He has some grave concerns and so do I about this lag and what they're doing in the FBI. We'll discuss that mass deportations are here, the World Economic Forum is back in the news, and
can the communists change their ways? And if not, why not All that and so much more is coming up tonight. I don't even know how we're going to get to everything on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Before we get into anything else. What happened to the January sixth political protesters was one of the most evil things this country has ever done. It really was. We had that ugly protest that got a little spicy on January sixth. We add, we don't even know how many federal law
enforcement officers in the crowd instigating that. We don't know. But whatever happened on January sixth, after it, Joe Biden's government, his DOJ saw an opportunity to paint you all of us as domestic terrorists or either potential domestic terrorists. Remember they never cared about January sixth. They were never stressed about it at all. It was all just about turning the guns of the federal government against you. Always remember this when it comes to communists. We'll come back to
January sixth, specifically, in a moment. Communists believe in using power you already know this to reward their friends and punish their enemies. And every single time communists have taken power in a country, Soviet Union China, East Germany, Cambodia, you name it. Every single time they have taken power Venezuela. Now they have tried to figure out, and eventually did figure out, how to use all those guns of the federal law enforcement or the military. How do we use
all those guns against our domestic enemies. Look at all this power, Look at what we can do. If we can just find a way to justify it, then we'll use that power against our political enemy. Stalin was obviously one of the first, one of the ones who really wrote the book on this, and if you know anything about the history of the Soviet Union, you know we've talked about this before. He would simply haul people who were either his political enemies or he thought a potential
threat to him. He would find a way to get his federal law enforcement arm to get some charges on these people, to justify sending them to the gulags or lining them up against the wall and firing a bullet into their head. He found a way to take the force of government and turn it against his political enemies. Mao did the exact same thing Cultural Revolution. You already know about it because you listened to this show where
Mao had developed enemies, political enemies in his country. His policies had been disastrous, they had been deadly, and he was finding himself on the outs with a bunch of people.
What did Mao do. Mao found a way to get the guns inside his country, turned against his political opponents, and then as soon as those little monsters got done beating to death all of Mao's political opponents, he of course sent in his Red Guard and dragged them all out to the countryside, where they were shot and starved to death. Polpa did the same thing, and American Democrats did the exact same thing, granted on am much smaller scale in the last four years, and they did so
using January sixth as the justification for it. None of these people were ever stressed about January sixth. There was an unarmed protest that got a little bit out of hand. There was no insurrection, and Democrats know it. What they know was January sixth because it provided some bad optics. We don't like seeing riots when it's our side doing it,
and it didn't look great. They saw an opportunity and they took it, and that opportunity was, Hey, we had this protest that took place in Washington, d C. A place where we control every single lever of power from top to bottom, from the city to the federal government. Hey what if we just what if we just went after all these people and called them terrorists and threw them in federal prison. Many of them will kill themselves.
We had multiple kill themsel elves because the federal government took people with no criminal record and started throwing them in federal prison or threatening them with federal prison as if they were Osama, as if they were Osama bin Laden himself and innocent people have suffered mightily. And Donald Trump, you know, I have been critical of him in the past. I was very critical when he first started running for office again that he had not spoken up about the
January sixth political prisoners. He was really silent on it for a couple of years, and I was vocally critical about him, of him about that whole thing. And all the credit in the world goes to Donald Trump today because Donald Trump sat down day one and he turned them all free. A freaking wonderful moment. Good job, President Trump.
So this is January sixth. These are the passages, approximately fifteen hundred for a party full part.
Bull partner, commutations full partner.
We have about six commutations in there.
He didn't tiptoe it. He didn't do what a lot of people were worried about. Myself included. Well, I mean a case by case basis. If somebody made me uncomfortable, nope, sit down and turn all of them loose. And he did it. Credit goes to him. But setting that aside, every single January sixth er, listening to the sound of my voice, I just want to say, congratulations. I am sorry your evil government turned against you. I am sorry for how evil democrats are. I'm sorry for the loss
because you don't get those four years back. Lots of guys that won't get their wives back, girlfriends back, boyfriend's husband's back. We add people whose children turned them into the federal government. As communists always do, they will find a way to turn families against each other, family members turning in family members, evil communists, all of them. And I'm sorry you had to go through it. I'm sorry
you lost four years. I'm sorry for the family members of those who passed on, like Matthew Purna, took his own life, couldn't couldn't deal with it, took his own life. His poor sweet mom has to live with that forever, without her baby boy. So we will not forget the evils the communists did. But wow, good job Donald Trump and every single January sixther I'm glad you're free. I'm very very glad you're free. You you know, if you've
listened to the show for any length of time. I have been loudly speaking up for these people for a long time, because because I despise when the powerful come down on the powerless. I hate these people who did that to them. Matthew Graves, he's already sailing off into the sunset. Merrick Garland, Lisa Monico. These are the names. Remember, these things didn't just happen to the January sixth political protesters.
Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, Lisamonico, Matthew Graves. The evil communists in this country who did this to the little guy have names, and punishment must now come. I realized, Joe Biden will be free of that, at least in this life. Lisa Monico's not free of that. Merrick Garland's not free of that. Matthew Graves is not free of that. There were no preemptive pardons issued by old Senile Joe on the way out the door for the people in the
doj Donald Trump did the right thing. He pardoned these people. Now that see if Pam BONDI will do the right thing and throw communists in prison for their evil deeds. Congratulations January six ers. Now let's move on and talk about There's so much wonderful stuff to talk about. We will dig into that. Now. Before we dig into that, let's talk about your dog. We had a bunch of people over to the house last night, the little neighborhood party. We actually popped a bottle of Let's Go brand and
wine't I didn't partake. I don't really do wine or that kind of stuff anyway, but we had a bottle of Let's Go brand and wine, watched the National Championship game, and guess who was the star of the party, Freaking Fred. We kept him in the room and everyone protested so Fred could come out and love on everybody. Big fluffy idiot that dog is. And everyone loves them and we love them too. It's a blessing. My mom took him for a walk today in the neighborhood. Fred takes off
on her. There's a big group of kids. Fred takes off on her because the kids started calling his name, they knew Fred, and he ran over there like the fluffy moran he is and got a bunch of love, and then he came back. That's why we give Fred Rofgreens. Every single meal. Roughgreens get sprinkled on Fred's food because his dog food gives him no nutrition. If we don't give him rough Greens all natural nutritional nutritional supplement, he never gets food. But because of rough Greens, he doesn't
have digestive problems anymore. His coat looks better. It has everything your dog needs to live longer. Call him get a free jumpstart trial bag eight three three three three my Dog, or go to Roughgreens dot com slash Jesse We'll be back Jesse. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Tuesday. And one of the big executive orders that Trump handed down already was this executive order that says, hey,
the birthright citizenship stuff, that's gonna stop then. Just so you know, and maybe you're new to all this here in America, they have misinterpreted the force of fourteenth Amendment for a very long time, and as a result of that, they've done it on purpose. As a result of that, if you are an illegal and you come into the United States of America, if you're a woman, you're pregnant, and you come into this country, you can be the
most illegal of illegals. And you have that baby in America, that baby is an American citizen the way they interpret it, now, that's completely wrong. Trump said, no, that stops. Josh Hammer is going to join us in about ten minutes from now to find out is that executive order going to hold up? This is Supreme what's the Supreme Court going to say about it? So that is coming. But I wanted to get to this email because it's it's going to take me along the theme for tonight historical Oracle.
There's obviously a war going on in America right now. Now. That's why the pardons on both sides of inauguration. Inauguration Day, it really felt like a prisoner exchange. To me, what does the oracle see coming next in this war outside of the communist legal obstructionism, Well, what's happening right now?
It it is an assault on the way things have been for a very long time in this country and in Western civilization.
And this is what I mean by this. For the longest time, Republicans Democrats, it didn't matter. There were a bunch of things, so many things that were just accepted as right good. The way things are, this is the only way it can be. Any adjustment to these things is tanked about to being the end of the world. And this lasted, like I said, through Republican presidencies Democrat presidencies. And right now, what is happening not just in America.
I should note Canada's seeing this. We're seeing this in places like Germany, France, other places. What's happening is the people themselves are starting to rise up and reject it. And it's not purely a rejection of communism. I want to be clear about that. It is a rejection of common held beliefs of the elites who run Western society.
People are sick of what they have done with Western society and they want something different, Which brings us to Trump point or Trump two point zero, the second Trump administration. Why did he get elected by such a wide margin? Why is he He's not backing off of any of his campaign rhetoric like residents always do when they get elected. If anything, he's ramping it up and yet the people
are still loving it. Pull after pull out. Their poll shows he's more popular now than the day he was elected. People are loving it why because what Trump represents. What he represents is a rejection of the way things have been, and people in so many different ways are sick of the way things have been. A couple couple different things. Trump is going to declassify Martin Luther king Junior files, the JFK fires files, and the RFK assassination files. Now
that's just a small part of this. But stay with me here. Why were those things classified anyway? The JFK files. Why maybe you could understand in the immediate aftermath and whatnot. But the president of the United States of America was assassinated, he was shut in the head. The federal government went out and gathered a bunch of intelligence about who may
be responsible, about the circumstances around it. And after gathering all of that intelligence, the federal government promptly said, I'm sorry, you don't get to see America classified when you do things like that. And then everyone just accepted accepts it afterwards, every one of them, every single president, could have declassified it. I don't care what their name is. Bill, Clinton, Reagan, Trump, the first time Obama, all of them carter for a
new name them. They all could have declassified it. But the way things have always been was keep it classified. That's just the way things have always been. This new version of Trump is a complete rejection of the way things have always been. And that is music to your ears. For the most part. There'll be things you don't like. There'll be things I don't like. That's music to your ears,
that's music to my ears. But understand that people who have been holding power for a long long time, they are scared to death of it, scared to death of it because it means the end for them. Picture here, here's a good example. Goadafi or any any leader, any dictator, any king, when the rebellions get too big and their men can't hold them back for long enough. Well, it just happened to Basad, and Syria will use Basad. He held power forever, wars, rebellions, all kinds of things forever. Finally,
finally he loses. What's that drive to the airport like when you know you don't rule anything anymore? Nothing? What's that feeling when you're leaving your palace and you're going to God knows where to be a nobody, the feeling you've lost it all. But Alissada, I don't know why I call him Basad Buthar Alissade. What's that feeling like? That's what our e leads dread. I'll touch on that, tomorre Offter. We talked to Josh Hammer next Swords the Jesse Kelly Show and joining me now my friend host
of America on Trial. Also we wrote a book, Israel and Civilization, my friend Josh Hammer. Josh Donald Trump wants birthright citizenship. Well, he wants to stop these anchor babies from coming over here, crapping out a kid and giving them citizenship. Can he do this by executive order? Jesse?
Well, first all I have to as a lawyer, I have to say that I love this phraiseology of crapping out a kid. Not exactly how you see it in the United States Supreme Court obtaining my friend, but but I love it nonetheless. So this is a longstanding debate when it comes to the fourteenth Amendments, and I don't want to nerd out too hard. When it comes to the citizenship clause in the Fourteenth Amendment. Basically the legal debate comes down to what the phrase quote subject to
the jurisdiction thereof means. And I'll leave it at that for now. But the key point, I think for our purposes is that this is this a question that ninety Supreme Court has never actually decided when it comes to the children of legal aliens aka anchor babies. There is a tremendous amount, a tremendous amount of disinformation on this particular topic. So there is an eighteen ninety eighth US
Supreme Court case called Wang Kim Mark. It's a case involving Chinese immigrants out in California, and there the court decided that the children of legal aliens, people who are here on a visa, they are temporary permanent residents, they have a green card, and so forth their children. The court ruled in Wan Kim Mark do get Fourteenth Amendment birthright citizenship. I happen to think even Wang Kim Mark
was actually wrongly decided. There was a robust descent, which at the time included Justice Harlan, the greatest justice of the era. He was a lone dissenter in the Plessy versus Ferguson case just a few years prior but in any event, that case, which the media loves to cite when it comes to the anchor baby question, it only had to do with the children of legal, not illegal aliens. And then the Court was totally silent on this for
another eighty four years. It was then a case out of your state of Texas called Fwiler versus Doe in nineteen eighty two. That was the next time the Court touched the question of birthright clitizenship for illegal alliance, and they didn't actually rule on it. They basically just dropped a footnote in the middle of the opinion and said, oh, by the way, Wan Kim, mark that case from eighty four years ago. We interpret it to apply to illegal
alien children too. But that's not binding. That's not how it works. That's what lawyers called dickta. It's basically just a phrase that's tossed in there. So the media says, or you can't do this the constitution for HIV it said, nonsense, total nonsense. This legal question has never been presented to the United States Supreme Court in clear, direct fashion. I think that Donald Trump is on totally sound ground. I think it's also fantastic policy. It's the kind of thing
that I've been pushing for for many, many years. I know a lot of conservatives have been pushing for it as well. There, I'm frankly just just just astonished that he did at day one. Astonished in a good way. I mean, this is really, this is real, guns blazing stuff, Jesse. I had high expectations for this magna tude point administration. But to go in there and try to ban birthright relationship by executive order day one, honestly, that surpasses even my already high expectations.
Okay, again, speaking with Josh Hammer, host of America on Trial, Josh setting aside that you know, some young guy or whatever, that Chinese one is out in California. Does this go to the Supreme Court again? Now, what happens from here? Is it already the law? I doubt that what happens from here detail.
Wise, so it definitely it's already being sued. So Blue States, the ACLU, various you know, pro immigration, open border groups groups like that, they're already suing. So it probably is just a matter of time until this thing finds its way to the United States Supreme Court. That's where things
get interesting. I do not think that there are five current votes to uphold the interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendments that I have just said that I agree with, namely that the phrase subject to the jurisdiction thereof means that you have to be here at a bare minimum legally in order to get birth righted. And ship I am skeptical that there are five votes that I wish I
were wrong, Jesse. I hope to be wrong on this, But if I'm just trying to be an objective kind of predictor, I'm trying to prognosticate where the current votes on the Court come down. There I see Clarence Thomas, I see Sam Alito, and then I see question marks on basically everyone else. So let's just play this out
a little further. Let's say that I'm correct, and as the Supreme Court when this thinct litigated there ultimately rules against the Trump administration rules incorrectly, but rules against them nonetheless, that would present Donald Trump with an opportunity to pull what I like to refer to as an Abraham Lincoln.
So famously, there was the Dred Scott Kings, probably the single worst case in US Supreme Court history, from the late eighteen fifties, Chief Justice Roger Tawani famously ruled that black people are not citizens and can never be citizens. It was a horrific opinion, wrong, morally, wrong, legally, and so forth. Abraham Lincoln, when he was president, basically stuck
two middle fingers to the United States Supreme Court. He said that he would not apply that ruling as it pertains to anyone else other than the slave in question, Dred Scott, And sure enough he did ignore it. He actually issued passports to free blacks in the western territories of the United States in direct defiance of Dred Scott.
So if I were advising Donald Trump what to do if the Supreme Court ruled against him, here would be to basically say, you know what, I appreciate your opinion, but when it comes to my administration, to my executive branch, I get to interpret the Constitution for myself. I am not bound by your rulings for anyone other than the plaintiffs in this particular lawsuit. I hope he does that, Jesse. If it comes to that, it will be a fantastic moment to take a true Lincoln esque constitutional stand. I
don't know if he would do it. I'm frankly, I'm hoping he doesn't come to that because I would love for the court to rule the right way. But that's potentially where we're heading here.
Okay, So finally, his legal team. I'm not talking about his personal life lawyers or you know, Elena Habbar. Are these types his legal team, the ones who are going to be digging into this stuff. Do you like them? Do you trust them? I don't know these people. That's your area.
So he he has he has an excellent, excellent slitter General of the United States coming on right now. Andrew Bailey looks like it is coming on. Actually, sorry, so I get that. Uh no, it is Andrew Billy. Andrew Bailly is is coming in here as a slitterer General of the United States. He he is just truly, truly fantastic A Jesse Sorry, I'm pretting myself in real time. Bailey is not the splitzer generally United States. It's actually a former splitter general of MISERI I'm getting my Missouri
lawyers confused. There. I knew, I knew that didn't summer out of time. But in any event, he has a fantastic splitter General of the United States coming in here. Look, when it comes to Donald Trump's actual top notch lawyers,
he has fantastic legal talents around him. Now, it's true that he has a knack in the pants for picking some lawyers who maybe are are better student towards being on camera a little bit as opposed to being in the courtroom, But when it comes to actual courtroom attorneys, he's done very well for himself overall there, and he's gonna he's gonna be in good hands. He said that, you know, oral advocates can only do so much when
it comes to the court room. It really does come to say, I expect that most justice on the courts probably again I hope I'm wrong here, but I would anticipate that most of the I'm probably just going to default to the way that most courts have interpreted this provision for the past thirty forty fifty years there. But I hope I'm wrong, because that's an incorrect interpretation in my opinion.
Okay, Josh Hammer, you are the man, my friend. Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Always a pleasure.
Justine, Well, that was my clarification. Josh and I had not actually talked about that before he came on So I found out when you found out? So this ending birthright citizenship, the anchor baby problem, the fact that these illegals they know they just have to hop over the border have a baby, and that's an American citizen. Which is a ridiculous, insane policy, not at all what the fourteenth Amendment was about. But where does it go from here?
Trump wants to stop brave thing to do, appreciate he's trying. It goes to the Supreme Court. Josh Hammer one man's opinion, But Josh is pretty freakin smart. Josh says he doesn't think the Supreme Court is going to rule our way, and then Josh thinks Trump should defy the court. Now, Trump one point oh would not have taken that step. Trump two point zero. Just mike this. Donald Trump sure looks so far like the kind of guy who might
just do it, and I hope he does. All right, Back to what we were talking about, the changing of the way things are next on a Tuesday. Remember, if you want, you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. You can leave us a voicemail eight seven seven three seven seven four three seven three. Back to what we were talking about what is it? What is trump to point? Oh? And why is the system? Why are the globalist communists, whatever way you want to put it,
why are they so mortified by it? Because what it is is a rejection of them. It's a rejection of the way things have been for the longest time, and for these people, it represents a real threat to the power they hold. I brought up I brought up a Cadafi and Bashah al assade of Syria. But Chris brought up a good one during the break Napoleon. Right. These guys who rise to the mountaintop kings and monarchs or whatever they may be, and they hold onto power for
so long. Now I can't relate to this. You can't relate to this. But think about this. Do the best you can to put yourself in their shoes. Imagine having a palace, several of them, servants, a fleet of cars, private jets, steaks, You rule everything, you are a ruler. And then imagine the phone call comes one day we can't hold the rebels back any longer. You're going to have to escape. Now your power is gone forever. No more palaces, no more jets, no more pools, no more
cavia a no more nothing. I don't expect you to feel sorry for any of these people, But what does that feel like? If you're Napoleon, you're essentially the emperor. You find yourself eating cold soup on a miserable island one day. What does it feel like to have risen to the top and then have it all come crashing down? The globalists, that's what they see happening in front of them right now, a rejection of them, and they're terrified, and that's what makes them so dangerous. I'm going to
play something for you. The World Economic Forum has not gone way that evil communist organization run by Klaud Schwab. It's not going to weigh at all. Klaus Schwab just gave a speech. Think this was yesterday. Listen to what he had to say.
Care for the next generation fails.
Chris, stop laughing at his voice. It's immature when you laugh at his voice.
Chris, Care for the next generation fails. We risk depending into self serving and shortsighted behaviors said undermine collective progress and lead to profound societal and political shifts. To count the erosion of hope and confidence in our future, we must go beyond reacting just to crisis. We must focus more actively shaping the future in strategic, innovative and constructive phrase despite the intense short term, precious and problems which we all feel.
You like the island, My grandmother had an island, Chris. That's enough. That's enough. That's not what Klaud should That's enough, Chris. Anyway, did you hear what he said? It was only like forty five seconds. I'm gonna play it for you again. I want you to listen to it again. I might stop it a couple of times. He sees what's happening out there as a rejection of him and his globalist elite friends, this Prime Minister and this senator and this
president and this CEO. He sees it happening. He knows it's happening for.
The next generation. Fails. We risk depending into self serving and shortsighted behaviors. Said undermine collective poggers.
That undermine collective progress, These short sighted behaviors. What are these short sighted behaviors? What you want to you want to deport a bunch of illegals. We have a big collective thing we're progressing on now. We're trying to fill Western civilization up with barbarians, and you're stressing about a couple of rapes. Get serio. That's the kind of thing and lead.
To profound societal and political shifts. To count to see erosion of hope and confidence in our future, we must go beyond the acting just to crisis. We must focus more actively shaping the future in strategic, innovative and constructive phrase.
People are losing their trust in US. It's essentially what he just say. They're losing their trust in US, and so we have to stop just reacting to a crisis. Think about COVID. That was the system reacting to a crisis, the system finding a way to seize more power and money. He said, we have to be more active now. The
elites feel it. The people who have been running Western civilization for decades, probably for as long as you've been alive, they are feeling a profound rejection of them, their power and authority. And in large part that's what Trump represents. A completely new way of thinking, a different way of doing things that's not traditionally republican, it's not traditionally democrat. It's totally different. And this is not a big Trump suck up session, which you know I don't do. He's different.
I'm looking right here. Trump says he's thinking of imposing twenty five percent tariffs on Canada in Mexico in February. Tell me the last American president who even considered slapping what is essentially a gigantic fine on our two neighbors if they don't adjust how they've done things. You would never see that from a Democrat. You would never see that from a Republican, not in your lifetime. Donald Trump comes in there, he's talking about he's talking about buying green Greenland.
Is a wonderful place we needed for international security. And I'm sure that Denmark will come along. I think it's questing them a lot of money to maintain it, to keep it. The people of Greenland are not happy with Denmark, you know, I think they're happy with us. We had representeds, my son and representatives one up there two weeks ago, and they like us.
So we'll see what happens.
But Greenland is necessary, not for US, it's necessary for international security. You have Russian VOTs the place, you have China boats all over the place, warships, and they can't maintain it.
Who talks like that. What you're seeing is a rejection of the system, and the system knows it. This has been a podcast from wor